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  • #221029
    Kathryn D
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    Hi Ivey,
    I had a Bull Mastiff many years ago who had horrible recurrent yeast on his paws and ears. I was told by a specialist that chicken and beef were two of the culprits. Dairy products like yogurt can also trigger the yeast. Look for low glycemic-carbohydrate food, as carbs can trigger or worsen a yeast infection. Also, tomato pomace can be an allergen for some dogs. It is high in histamine, which can cause scratching and can potentially trigger yeast overgrowth in sensitive dogs. Have you tried any of the Nulo brand dog food? They have some that are low glycemic. “High Animal-Based Protein · Low In Carbohydrates · Low Glycemic Ingredients · Advanced BC30 Probiotics.” Have you tried a fish dog food? Are you feeding grain inclusive or grain free?
    -Kat

    #196922
    Anya Sleezer
    Participant

    Hello, I planned to feed our new Pom puppy a fresh food, Raised Right Puppy food. It’s has 60% protein., 28%fat, 8% carbs. However, while shopping at an organic natural pet food store, an employee said this wasn’t as good of a choice for toy breeds because the protein level is so high. Something about it being hard on their stomachs or harder to digest. He recommended a food with lower protein. When I look on the dog food for Poms page, Raused Right is not included. There is only 1 fresh food and I noticed all of them have closer to 30% protein. I cannot find anywhere online where it mentions this issue with toy breeds. In fact, on veterinary dietician site I found that if a dog gets too much protein they simply break it down and eliminate it through urine. So, now I’m not sure what to believe and if this is a good food for a toy breed or if I should instead go with one of the brands recommended here: https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/best-dog-foods/pomeranians/. I prefer fresh food, maybe raw to dry or wet. Any advice? Have others with you breeds fed them Raised Right?

    #189730
    KelWolf
    Participant

    Hi Aimee
    Logical reasoning..I stay away from Processed Sugar & UNNECESSARY carbohydrates that yes convert into Sugar….
    I did not say anything about Protein & Fat which are completely necessary & what they do Process..I didn’t include that regarding unnecessary carbs/sugar..
    Whole Prey body parts good!
    Unnecessary Sugar bad!

    Dogs and Cats are Carnivores they do NOT process plant matter! Humans seem to think just cuz human foods are healthy it is good for their pet. Fact they are not omnivorous…They are both Biologically Scientifically Carnivorous by Design & they do not Process as the Herbivore does..Just as the Human Body is designed Herbivore (should not be consuming meat) Even though we can consume flesh the human body is not designed to Process it & flesh results in body organ stress health issues & sicknesses even death!
    Carnivores are completely different by Design…so as the same for Humans Dogs & Cats consuming unnecessary foods does the same thing stress out the body & organs health issues & sicknesses even death!
    Fruits & Veggies are high in sugar…there are some greens like pureed/powered Dandelion or Collard greens algae or other sources that can offer alil Chlorophyll or other benefits like Curcumin etc but very Lil is absorbed & has to be processed absorbable bioavaialable since they do not Process plant matter!
    If it isn’t something that they would actually hunt in the Wild don’t feed it unless their bodies are safely able to absorb it without negative effects (health issues & allergies) like say Green lipped mussels can benefit even tho they wudnt hunt again as long as it is tolerated without harm
    & One has to ask what would this pet actually Hunt!?!

    Whole Prey is best & Yes one can add other wonderful things Nature can provide like herbs depending on how its converted & say the wonderful benefits of like Bragg’s Apple Cider Vinegar or Colloidal Silver in Moderation but if it’s not Species Appropriate then be cautious & stay away if overall harmful!
    Processed Products processed for Animals most of the time add unnecessary ingredients coatings etc that will convert into Sugar so the more sugar added daily the more unhealthy issues will arise!
    Their receptors are searching for something to help the body when something is lacking or when their bodies are in distress or when they are trying to feed a hunger craving…grass for an upset tummy they will either throw it up or poo it out! Wolves Coyotes will consume grasses & other inappropriate matter like berries just to feed the hunger if they have lack of or unsuccessful hunting of Prey but will not Process it..again instead it gets pooed out!
    Even grass has sugary roots when consumed will add sugar which in turn will add yeast! Grains cause bacteria & yeast so stay away from grain-fed animals (prey). What goes into the Prey goes into the Predator. Again the Preys body processes the plant matter not the Predator!
    Even feeding whole Prey one has to think how is the Prey treated fed harvested etc since it will be consumed by the Pet..everything is crucial so incorporating something unnecessary & harmful is crucial!
    Like never consume Tap Water..Believe it or not some people don’t even realize not to…Tap water is cleaned with chemicals causing issues & Cancers etc…be cautious of everything!
    So adding unnecessary ingredients just harms the body in many ways so to avoid it is best…Believe me I try to look at everything after seeing harmful results!
    I research all the time & even find some things I thot were possibly healthy really aren’t but have to learn new everyday! Like unfortunately I have cut off ALL Tripe no matter what due to yeast issues since alot of Companies state grass-fed but don’t state grain-finished & some are both but may supplemental feed (grains or hay) during winter months causing issues & Tripe usually isn’t 100% clean & other Organs may affect the Pet as well…so again learning each day!
    Adding Sugar on top of Natural Sugar & feeding multiple things with sugar & adding too much will cause issues. Feeding them feeds their Cells & everything matters when trying to be as close to appropriate as possible…mimicking to the best of our knowledge is our hope!
    Also even when your trying to feed a healthy Raw Diet..if the pets body is compromised say from sugary yeast overgrowth/cancer/etc it creates a barrier not allowing healthy nutrients to absorb so No matter how hard you try to feed healthy it’s pointless & they continue to get sicker so they need to CLEANSE first & rid the body of the yeast in order for the body to do what it needs to do to heal itself & Cancerous Cells thrive on sugar..take Away the sugar source better the chance the Cancerous Cells will die or return back healthy & new healthy cells will thrive at long as there is time!
    Just cuz Dogs & some cats will eat pretty much anything doesnt mean it is good for them..& they are designed Completely different than the Human Herbivore especially the Feline..so feed as the body is designed & be cautious of things that will benefit (even tho they are not what they would hunt like ex Colloidal Silver/ACV)…just like for Humans Animals stay away from unnecessary/processed Sugar Chemicals & harmful products & the Body no matter Herbivore or Carnivore it will thrive Healthy🐾💛🐾

    #187205
    Dog H
    Participant

    As PetsPaa, I understand your concerns about your 3-year-old male pointer’s sensitive digestion and history of severe starvation. It’s important to consider his unique dietary needs, especially after undergoing surgery to remove half of his intestines.

    Given that commercial feeds have not worked well for him in the past, and considering his history of success with homemade cooked food, it may be worth considering a homemade diet again. However, it’s crucial to ensure that his diet is balanced and intestine-friendly to support his health and well-being.

    Here are some general guidelines for feeding a homemade diet for your dog with reduced intestinal capacity:

    High-quality protein: Choose easily digestible sources of protein such as boiled lean meats (e.g., chicken, turkey, or beef), eggs, and cottage cheese. These provide essential amino acids for muscle health and tissue repair.

    Low-fiber carbohydrates: Opt for easily digestible carbohydrates such as well-cooked white rice, boiled potatoes, or pasta. Avoid high-fiber foods like legumes, as they can be difficult to digest and may cause gastrointestinal issues.

    Healthy fats: Include a source of healthy fats in the diet, such as cooked and cooled boiled eggs, fish oil, or olive oil, to provide energy and support nutrient absorption.

    Vitamins and minerals: Add a vitamin and mineral supplement or a complete and balanced canine multivitamin to ensure your dog gets all the necessary nutrients.

    Avoidance of harmful ingredients: Avoid feeding your dog foods that are toxic to dogs, such as chocolate, onions, garlic, grapes, and raisins, as they can cause severe health issues.

    Feeding schedule: Consider dividing your dog’s meals into smaller, more frequent meals throughout the day to ease the workload on his reduced intestine.

    Monitoring and consultation: Regularly monitor your Dog Health Care
    viz. weight, body condition, and overall health, and consult with your veterinarian for ongoing guidance and adjustments to the diet as needed.

    It’s important to work closely with your veterinarian or a veterinary nutritionist to create a balanced and intestine-friendly homemade diet that meets your dog’s specific needs. They can help you determine the right amounts of protein, carbohydrates, and fats for your dog’s condition and monitor his progress over time.

    Remember, it’s crucial to introduce any dietary changes slowly to allow your dog’s digestive system to adjust, and to closely monitor his response to the new diet. If you notice any signs of digestive upset, weight loss, or other health concerns, consult with your veterinarian promptly for further evaluation and guidance.

    #186890
    Chris K
    Participant

    Hi I don’t usually comment anywhere. This a warning plus info for your dog. We bought Earthborn for years as our pet is diabetic plus has IBS. We got three bags over a couple of months. I noticed oil on the bottom of the bag with kibbles pretty oily. So we took it back to where we got it and let them know. Bought one more trusting this was a fluke? Same thing. So we contacted the company thinking maybe they didn’t know. Earthborn called back to say sorry and maybe in transit it got to warm or cold. So she sent coupons (didn’t have to)
    So we bought our third bag same result. Our vet said DO NOT FEED YOUR DOG THIS IF YOU SEE THIS AMOUNT OF OIL. Very unhealthy as it can have sallflower oil or something leaching
    Out with more ingredients you would not feed your pet to much of ! We haven’t bought a big bag thank goodness. One more thing. I have to say Earthborn is a great company. We have used them because the carbs are lower than most. However pay attention to what you feed if it has oil dripping from the kibbles. Don’t feed your pet! Longwinded sorry. Be blessed.

    #186146
    KelWolf
    Participant

    Hi Renee
    Hope you see this…
    I feed Halshan as well.. only I stay away from Anything that is or turns into Sugar…Veggies & Fruits are high in Sugar causing Yeast overgrowth & they are not Designed to Process them anyways & it can cause numerous Health Issues..like Spinach is Oxidative Etc so have to be careful…leafy greens can help with Chlorophyll but only tiny amount…their Tripe they have has that added…Fruits & Veggies Good for Human Herbivores not Carnivores lol!!
    I think Logically..if they don’t Hunt it I don’t Feed it😆& when they eat Prey the Prey has already Digested the plant matter & only alil may be absorbed like the Chlorophyll/Fiber cuz again Carnivores do not Process plant matter

    You may want to do a Cleanse to free up possible Yeast Issues inside the Body you may not see right now…Coconut Oil & Probiotics Help…
    Always Cleanse the Body before Transitioning cuz Yeast Overgrowth Barriers will not allow good Proteins & Nutrients to be Absorbed
    The problem with Gently Cooked is that ANY Cooking Depletes vital Nutrients & Enzymes & Cooked meat basically becomes a Carbohydrate Filler (like All Kibble which is All Carbohydrate…Highly Heat Processed all Sugar No Nutritional Value) which turns into Sugar feeding Healthy Cells turning them into Cancerous Cells & again Yeast & Unhealthy Health Issues…that’s why Humans shouldn’t consume Meat..so I Always do Raw for my Pets….
    I do the Ground Rabbit & Ground Chicken WITHOUT Veggies & add their Beef Organ Mix for extra Heart & Kidney Tripe & Chlorophyll Etc Benefits
    & also use an Omega Salmon Oil..I Only use Lifeline Salmon Oil.. Trusted for 10 Years now!

    Researching Kelp now even tho they wouldn’t hunt it lol but for alil for added nutrients

    & ALWAYS feed Grass-fed Grass Finished NO Grains (especially for Tripe) Grains cause Bacterial Infection Irritation Inflammation Etc
    I will also add Beef Meat with Fat (Boneless) to level out the Bone intake if too much Calcium & the Fat is good for them just not too much lol😆Halshan doesn’t have just that so I get it elsewhere as long as it is Grass-fed finished too…but everything else
    That’s why I like Halshan

    I believe “Furlys” a Pet Store in Orange County California sells Halshan & Ships Nationwide!!
    Hopefully I spelled it correctly..just Google lol
    Hope all this helps Here if ya need..Bless your Sweet FurBaby
    🐾💛🐾

    #186041
    Mutts and Cats
    Participant

    Hi Aimee. You must have enjoyed a few days off from my questioning. I have been experimenting with the caloric distribution comps to make sure I have it down. Not sure if I do or not. I’ve been running the comps using data from a couple companies (Instinct and Nulo) who have very thorough data sheets, and even provide the % calories from protein, fat, and carbs to compare with my comps. I’m finding that I sometimes match pretty closely to their % calorie figures, and sometimes not. And often my total for % calories from protein, fat & carbs is not 100%. I wonder if one possible explanation for the differences is that they are running the computations using exact numbers from a sample, instead of min protein/fat, max moisture, etc. Anyway, my understanding of this stuff is coming along, and my brain is getting some good exercise.

    Thanks for the additional comments on copper content. From what I have seen out there it has been 100% beef recipes that have had really high copper contents. And I think the highest ones were companies who are also adding a copper supplement. This is just from a few (quite a few) companies that I explored, so of course is not a scientific study. What I concluded is that many companies are developing a standard vitamin/mineral pack that they dump into every recipe instead of making a custom pack for each recipe. The 3 companies you mentioned must tailor their packs to the specific recipe. The responsible thing to do.

    My dog had a seizure this morning, followed by another one 20 minutes later. This has never happened before. I can’t help but wonder if stopping the CBD Oil caused this change. Just when I was starting to feel hopeful . . . M&C

    #185886
    Raven Depto
    Participant

    For raw dog food recommendations, consider the following:

    Quality of ingredients: Look for products that contain high-quality meat, such as chicken, beef, or lamb, as the main ingredient. Avoid filler ingredients like corn, wheat, or soy.

    Nutritional balance: Make sure the food includes a balanced ratio of protein, fat, and carbohydrates, as well as essential vitamins and minerals like calcium and phosphorus.

    Source of ingredients: Choose brands that use locally sourced and humanely raised animal products.

    Safety and sanitation: Make sure the food is manufactured and packaged under strict safety and sanitation guidelines to reduce the risk of contamination.

    Customer reviews: Read customer reviews and check for any reported health issues related to the food.

    Some popular and well-regarded brands of raw dog food include Stella & Chewy’s, Primal Pet Foods, and The Honest Kitchen. It is important to talk to your veterinarian to ensure a raw food diet is appropriate for your dog and to get specific recommendations based on your pet’s individual nutritional needs.

    #185808
    Ana W
    Participant

    After having half of his intestines removed, it’s important to be mindful of the types of foods you’re giving him in order to support his recovery and help him maintain a healthy weight.

    One thing you can try is to work with a veterinary nutritionist who can help you create a diet plan that is tailored to your dog’s specific needs. They will be able to take into account the fact that your dog has had a surgical procedure and recommend a diet that is easy to digest, low in fiber and high in protein.

    It may be helpful to include more easily digestible protein sources such as boiled chicken, fish, or eggs. Additionally, you can try adding small amounts of well-cooked white rice, which can help to bind the stools and provide a source of energy. You can also try adding small amounts of boiled sweet potatoes or white potatoes as a source of carbohydrates.

    It is also important to avoid high-fiber foods such as legumes, raw fruits and vegetables, and grains. Also, be sure to avoid fatty foods and table scraps, as they can be difficult to digest and can cause diarrhea.

    It’s important to note that you should introduce new foods slowly, to give your dog’s body time to adjust. Also, you should monitor his stools for any changes, and adjust his diet accordingly.

    It’s also important to keep in mind that the recovery process after such surgery can take time and it’s important to be patient and consistent in providing the right diet and not to make sudden changes.

    It’s also a good idea to keep in close contact with your vet during this time to make sure your dog is on the right track and to adjust his diet as needed.

    #185729
    Patricia A
    Participant

    My three small dogs’ have been on grain free kibble as a base with various freeze dried and home cooked as toppers. I’m really confused as to what camp to be in. Whether grain free was a marketing gimmick vs dogs’ are carnivores and don’t receive any benefits from grains. Even though the fed grain free has taurine added, I’m still not liking the ingredient splitting with the legumes. How much protein coming from animal protein vs the peas etc. Based on the first few ingredients would like to know opinions on one brand is possibly superior to the other. I won’t give name as to prejudice . If that makes sense. I’m concerned about the type of grain and digestibility. Aimee and Crazy for cats would love your opinions and reasoning also.. Just want to transition slowly and give the grain inclusive a try.
    One brand has ALL source origins on their website. The other I emailed and they were transparent and sent me their sources INCLUDING their supplements/vitamins and supplement pack sources. None from China.
    Cage-Free Chicken Chicken Meal Oatmeal Pearled Barley Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols) Pumpkin Quinoa Chicken Liver Natural Chicken Flavor Chicken Gizzard Flaxseed Salmon Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols) Coconut Flour Salt Pumpkin Seeds Organic Cranberries Organic Spinach Organic Beets Organic Carrots Organic Squash Organic Blueberries Inulin (from Chicory Root) Thyme Sage Rosemary Extract Mixed Tocopherols (preservative) Dried Kelp Potassium Chloride Dicalcium Phosphate Taurine Choline Chloride Zinc Proteinate Iron Proteinate Copper Proteinate Manganese Proteinate Sodium Selenite Vitamin E Supplement Calcium Iodate Thiamine Mononitrate Niacin Supplement D-calcium Pantothenate Riboflavin Supplement Vitamin A Supplement Vitamin D3 Supplement Vitamin B12 Supplement Pyridoxine Hydrochloride Folic Acid Dried Pediococcus Acidilactici fermentation product Dried Lactobacillus

    SECOND BRAND

    INGREDIENT

    Salmon
    United States, Alaska

    Oats
    United States, North Dakota / Canada, Saskatchewan

    Whitefish Meal
    United States, Alaska

    Sorghum
    United States, North Dakota

    Quinoa
    Canada, Saskatchewan

    Coconut Oil
    Indonesia / Philippines

    Herring Meal
    Canada, Newfoundland / Mexico
    Wild Caught in the deep cold Atlantic Ocean, our Herring meal contains high amounts of high quality protein and omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids.

    Natural Flavor
    United States, Missouri / Canada, Quebec

    Millet
    United States, Colorado

    Pumpkin
    United States, Michigan, Missouri

    Salmon Oil
    Canada, New Brunswick

    Apples
    United States, Michigan

    Chia Seed
    Paraguay

    Potassium Chloride
    Canada, Saskatchewan

    Salt
    United States, Kansas

    Chicory Root
    Belgium

    Choline Chloride
    United States, Missouri

    Vitamin E Supplement
    Switzerland / United States

    Calcium Pantothenate
    Scotland

    Niacin Supplement
    Switzerland

    Vitamin A Supplement
    Switzerland / France

    Riboflavin Supplement (B2)
    Germany

    Vitamin D3 Supplement
    United States / France

    Vitamin B12 Supplement
    France

    Thiamine Mononitrate (B1)
    Germany

    Folic Acid
    France
    Folic acid is essential for brain and nervous system function and is needed for protein utilisation and red blood cell formation.

    Zinc Proteinate
    United States

    Calcium Carbonate
    United States
    Calcium carbonate is a supplement that contributes to the total calcium levels that are needed to maintain healthy bones and teeth.

    Iron Proteinate
    United States

    Copper Proteinate
    United States

    Manganese Proteinate
    United States

    Calcium Iodate
    United States / Canada

    Selenium Yeast
    United States

    Taurine
    Japan

    Mixed Tocopherols (Preservative)
    United States, Iowa

    Cinnamon
    Vietnam / Indonesia

    Turmeric
    India
    Formulated to help pets thrive
    Formulated to help pets thrive
    OceanWise® approved wild caught salmon
    A wholesome blend of ancient grains like millet, quinoa, sorghum and chia seeds
    No peas, legumes and potatoes
    No corn, wheat or soy
    No artificial flavors or preservatives

    • This topic was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Patricia A.
    #185619
    Jack L
    Participant

    Raw Food Diet For Dogs Cost

    Raw food diet for dogs cost varies depending on the source and quality of ingredients. There are also many freeze-dried raw options available at different price points. Commercial raw food costs between $12 per day and $353 per month. This cost can vary depending on the supplier. If you feed your homemade dog meals, the price will vary depending on what veterinary advice they need for their diet plan! These can be more expensive than traditional home-prepared meals but require less preparation time and effort. The cost could also depend on the pet’s size. Smaller breeds may require smaller portions, while larger breeds may need more food to meet their nutritional needs. Additionally, some raw diets are nutritionally balanced and contain all of the necessary vitamins and minerals that a dog needs for optimal health. This can result in higher costs than homemade meals or other diets that may include only some of the necessary nutrients. Regardless, a raw food diet is an excellent choice for many pet owners looking to give their furry friends the healthiest and most natural nutrition possible.

    Overall, a raw food diet for dogs cost is worth it if you are looking for optimal nutrition and health benefits for your pet. The cost may vary depending on the source, quality of ingredients, and size of your pet, but it is still a great choice for many dog owners. With careful research and understanding of your pet’s specific nutritional needs, you can find the best raw food diet that will benefit your pup at an affordable price.

    The Top 5 Raw Food Diets For Dogs

    1. Instinct Raw Boost Mixers Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food Topper
    Instinct Raw Boost Mixers Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food Topper is great food for kibble and dry food lovers. It is made with real meat, fruits, and vegetables and contains real nutrition of raw. Raw is natural, made from real meat & whole food ingredients, protein-packed & minimally processed high protein, plus real freeze-dried raw meat pieces with natural ingredients to support healthy digestion and skin & coat. . A great way to make sure your pup gets all of their necessary vitamins, minerals, and proteins in the meal. Ultimately, there is no one-size-fits-all answer to the question of the cost of a raw food diet for dogs cost. However, with careful research and understanding of your pet’s nutritional needs, you can select a high-quality option that will provide them with optimal nutrition at an affordable price.

    Pros:
    Grain-free, potato-free, corn-free, wheat-free, and soy free
    Made in the USA with the finest ingredients from around the world.
    Rich in antioxidants
    High protein content to support muscle growth and weight management
    Cons
    May require more preparation time than traditional dog food.
    Some dogs may not take to the new diet as easily as others.
    Raw diets may contain bacteria that could make your pet sick if not properly handled.
    Raw food diets for dogs cost can be expensive to feed on a regular basis.
    May require more research and understanding of pet nutrition than traditional dog food.
    Overall, a raw food diet for dogs is an investment that can be worth it if you are looking for optimal nutrition and health benefits for your pet. With careful research, selecting a quality product, and understanding your pet’s specific needs, you can provide them with the most natural nutrition possible at an affordable cost.

    2. Stella & Chewy’s Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food Dinner Patties
    Stella & Chewy’s Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food Dinner Patties is best for raw food diet for dogs because it is made with 95% beef, organs, and bone, such as beef tripe. Our grass-fed Beef recipe will delight your pup. It also includes organic fruits and vegetables and added live probiotics to support your pup’s immune system. Stella & Chewy’s freeze-dried raw dinner patties provide complete & balanced nutrition for all life stages without any fillers. All Stella & Chewy’s products are made in the USA and sourced from responsible farmers, ranchers, and suppliers.

    Pros:
    Raw food diets are high in protein and essential vitamins and minerals for your dog’s health.
    It may be easier to digest than kibble, making it a great choice for dogs with sensitive stomachs.
    Since the ingredients are more natural, there is no need to add fillers, artificial preservatives, flavours or colours.
    Dogs fed raw food diets tend to have a glossy coats, brighter eyes, and healthier skin and teeth.
    Cons:
    Raw food diets for dogs can be more expensive than traditional kibble or canned food diets.
    Raw diets may not meet all of your pup’s nutritional needs, as they lack certain vitamins and minerals found in kibble or canned diets.
    Overall, Raw food diet for dogs cost is an investment, and you can provide natural nutrition possible at an affordable cost.
    3. Primal Freeze Dried Dog Food Nuggets Chicken Formula
    Primal Freeze Dried Dog Food Nuggets Chicken Formula is the best food for dog owners looking for a complete and balanced raw food diet. It is packed with protein and healthy fats, and this grain-free recipe is made with humanely raised chicken. The formula also contains natural source vitamins and minerals for optimal nutrition. This formula is a convenient way to provide your pet with top-quality nutrition, and the pre-portioned nuggets make it simple to tailor their diet for optimal health and happiness.

    With Primal Freeze Dried Dog Food Nuggets Chicken Formula, you can give your pup all the benefits of a raw diet in an easy and cost-effective way. This grain-free formula is made with real, high-quality ingredients for optimal nutrition and flavor, and it’s crafted in the USA for added peace of mind. Feed your pup this convenient and delicious freeze-dried raw food and provide them with the best nutrition possible.

    Pros:
    High-quality ingredients and humanely raised chicken with no added hormones or antibiotics
    Organic produce and botanicals for additional health benefits
    Grain-free formula for those who need to avoid grains
    Preportioned nuggets make it easy to tailor the diet to your pet’s needs
    Made in the USA for added peace of mind
    Cons:
    May be more expensive than other types of pet food
    4. Wellness CORE RawRev Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Wellness CORE RawRev Grain-Free Dry Dog Food is the best dog food. It includes natural ingredients and also freeze-dried raw meat. A grain-free diet provides protein and healthy fats to keep your pup’s energy levels up. This formula contains probiotics and prebiotics to promote digestive health. In addition, it has added omega fatty acids, flaxseed, and salmon oil to support healthy skin and coat. It does not contain by-products, corn, wheat, soy, or artificial preservatives. Whether you have a puppy or an adult dog, this recipe will give your furry friend optimal nutrition.

    Pros:
    Grain-free
    High-quality ingredients
    Contains freeze-dried raw meat for added flavour and nutrition
    Probiotics and prebiotics to promote digestive health
    Made in the USA without by-products, corn, wheat, soy or artificial preservatives
    Cons:
    May be more expensive than other types of dog food
    Can be difficult to find in stores or online, so you may need to order it directly from the manufacturer.
    Overall, this raw food diet for dogs cost is affordable, and this product is also best for your dog.
    5. Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Freeze-Dried Raw Adult Grain-Free Dog Food
    Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Freeze-Dried Raw Adult Grain-Free Dog Food is a delicious food. It includes Freeze-dried raw grain-free food with added protein and carbohydrates and is an excellent source of Omega-3 & Omega-6 fatty acids. The cost of raw food diets for dogs depends on the size and type of protein you choose. This is an affordable option for those looking for aliments your dog needs. This food is made with natural ingredients and contains no artificial preservatives, colors or flavors. Additionally, it is excellent for dogs with sensitive stomachs since it helps to reduce allergens in the diet.

    Pros:
    A fresh, natural, and nutritious diet for your dog.
    Raw diets are generally high in protein and promote healthy digestion.
    Can help reduce allergies and sensitivities to certain ingredients.
    Cons:
    Risk of infection from bacteria or parasites if

    What Is a Raw Dog Diet?
    A raw dog diet is a type of nutrition plan that includes feeding your pup fresh, uncooked ingredients such as muscle meat, organ meat, bone broth, and whole eggs. Raw diets typically eliminate grains and processed foods from the equation in favour of natural vitamins and minerals found in real food sources. The belief behind this form of nutrition centres around the idea that dogs are biologically designed to eat raw meat and other natural ingredients rather than commercially-processed foods. Raw diets have become increasingly popular over the last few years due to their ability to promote overall health, improve digestion, and reduce allergic reactions in some pets.

    Raw diets also allow pet owners to control what goes into their pup’s food. By preparing meals at home, pet owners can make sure that their pup is getting all of the nutrition they need and avoid any ingredients that may be harmful to them. Additionally, raw diets are often more cost-effective than commercially available options since they require fewer additional supplements or ingredients.

    Should You Feed Your Dog Raw Food?
    Ultimately, the decision to feed your pup a raw food diet should be made after careful consideration and research. While raw diets can be beneficial for many pets, it’s important to ensure that you are providing them with the nutrients they need for optimal health. Additionally, some dogs may not adjust well to this kind of nutrition plan and could experience digestive issues or other adverse effects. It’s important to consult with a veterinarian before making any drastic changes to your pup’s diet.

    10 Benefits of Raw food diet for dogs

    1. Increased Digestibility:
    The high moisture content and the lack of added fillers and preservatives in raw diets often make them easier to digest.

    2. Improved Dental Health:
    The chewing action required for a raw diet helps keep your pup’s teeth clean and free from plaque buildup.

    3. Enhanced Nutrient Absorption:
    Raw food diets are usually unprocessed and contain fewer additives and preservatives, allowing your pup to benefit from increased nutrient absorption.

    4. Increased Energy:
    The higher protein content in a raw diet helps keep your pup energized throughout the day.

    5. Fewer Allergies:
    By eliminating processed foods and fillers, you can help reduce the possibility of your pup having an allergic reaction to their food.

    6. Natural Balance:
    The natural balance of nutrients found in raw diets helps keep your pup healthy without the need for added supplements.

    7. Better Weight Management:
    Because raw diets are typically lower in carbohydrates, they can help keep your pup’s weight under control.

    8. Healthier Skin And Coat:
    The fatty acids found in a raw diet can help promote a healthy coat and skin for your pup.

    9. Reduced Vet Costs:
    By providing your pup with optimal nutrition, you can help reduce the likelihood of them having to visit the vet due to health issues.

    10. More Variety:
    With a raw diet, you can mix up the types of proteins your pup is eating and make mealtime more interesting for them.

    10 disadvantages of Raw food diet for dogs

    1. Potentially Dangerous Bacteria:
    Raw diets can contain dangerous bacteria such as salmonella and e.coli, which can make your pup ill.

    2. Lower Nutritional Value:
    Due to the lack of processing and preservatives in raw dog food, some nutrients may not be able to be absorbed by the body due to improper cooking techniques.

    Raw food diets can contain bacteria that can be harmful to your pup. It’s important to take extra precautions and practice safe food handling when preparing meals for your dog.

    3. Risk Of Nutrient Deficiencies:
    With raw diets, it’s important to ensure that you are providing your pup with the proper nutrients in the right amounts. If not, they may be at risk of nutrient deficiencies.

    4. Time-Consuming:
    Raw diets can take more time to prepare and require careful research to ensure that all nutritional needs are met.

    5. Higher Cost:
    Raw food diets can often be more expensive than commercially prepared dog foods.

    6. Difficulty In Sourcing:
    Finding the right ingredients for a raw diet can be difficult, depending on where you live.

    7. Messy:
    Raw diets can get quite messy and require more cleanup than other diets.

    8. Intolerance To Specific Proteins:
    Some pups may not be able to tolerate specific proteins in a raw diet, so it’s important to monitor your pup for any adverse reactions.

    9. Difficulty Transitioning:
    It can take time for pups to get used to a raw diet, and there may be issues with digestion or intolerance during the transition period.

    10. Poor Palatability:
    Some pups may not find raw diets as appetizing as other types of food, which can be an issue if they’re picky eaters,

    Overall, a raw diet can be an excellent nutritional choice for your pup – but it comes with some risks and potential disadvantages. It’s important to research the benefits and risks associated with this type of diet before making the switch. Once you are sure that it is right for your pup, you’ll be able to enjoy the numerous benefits that a raw diet can offer.

    Conclusion
    A raw food diet for dogs can be an excellent nutritional choice, but it does come with some risks. It’s important to do your research and make sure you understand the potential benefits and disadvantages before making the switch. With careful planning and preparation, a raw diet can provide numerous health benefits for your pup and help them live a longer and healthier life.

    #185472
    Patricia A
    Participant

    Aimee I just don’t get it. Why doesn’t Nestlé Purina PetCare own brands such as Alpo? Shouldn’t they stand by the best nutrition across the board? I don’t think I like these ingredients to much.

    Ingredients: Ground yellow corn, corn germ meal, beef and bone meal, soybean meal, beef fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols, pork and bone meal, egg and chicken flavor, natural flavor, corn gluten meal, salt, potassium chloride, choline chloride, minerals [zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, calcium iodate], sodium selenite, natural grill flavor, vitamins [vitamin E supplement, niacin (vitamin B-3), vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate (vitamin B-5), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B-6), vitamin B-12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B-1), vitamin D-3 supplement, riboflavin supplement (vitamin B-2), menadione sodium bisulfite complex (vitamin K), folic acid (vitamin B-9), biotin (vitamin B-7), ], dl-methionine, l-lysine monohydrochloride, l-tryptophan, red 40, yellow 5, calcium carbonate, blue 2, yellow 6, garlic oil

    webiators T
    Participant

    I’ve compiled a collection of regular recipes, not “diet” meals. My very fat foster child just shed 10 pounds on a grain-free canned food/raw food combo diet that was very low in carbs. My group only goes to the bathroom twice a day.

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    #173910
    Jim W
    Participant

    Have you considered doing a review of Visionary Pets Dog food? I have been feeding it to mine for a couple years now. Great results. Limited stool. Maintain weight, coat and health on small amount.

    I would love to see more Low carb dog foods out there. Obesity is often a problem in dogs the same way as people and Low carb as a diet worked very well for me. I suspect the lack of sugar is good for them too.

    https://visionarypet.com/

    • This topic was modified 4 years, 3 months ago by Jim W. Reason: Added notification
    #173372
    nina R
    Participant

    Dieting emphasizes calorie restriction with the goal of losing weight, especially losing weight fast. While dieting could in theory consist of a balanced approach to food and nutrients that only limits calories, far more often diets disregard the fundamentals of good nutrition and only focus on weight loss. This is particularly true of fad diets that may seek to completely remove one entire type of food (for example no protein, no carbs, or no fat), or diets that get even more restrictive and only allow one or a few different types of food. while
    By contrast good nutrition emphasizes a diet that provides a complete source of all the vitamins, minerals, nutrients, and calories the body needs for healthy functioning. Healthy diets generally include an abundance of fruits and vegetables, lean proteins, low (but not no) fat and healthy oils, and grains. Good nutrition will not generally ‘blacklist’ any food items, but will focus on portion sizes and keeping the consumption of less nutritious or highly processed foods to a minimum

    #172228
    Melinda J
    Participant

    I was wondering if you could do a rating on the Small Breed Grain Free Dry Kibble from Pure Balance. I noticed that the ingredients are a little different than the regular kibble. Is there anything in it that may be known as a common allergen?

    Ingredients: Chicken, chicken meal, dried ground pea, tapioca, whole ground potato, turkey meal, poultry fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), flaxseed, pea protein, natural flavor, dried ground carrot, dried egg powder, sunflower oil, dicalcium phosphate, salt, menhaden fish oil, zinc proteinate, l-threonine, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, choline chloride, taurine, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, dl-methionine, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, biotin, l-carnitine, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, sodium selenite, vitamin A supplement, riboflavin supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12 supplement, calcium iodate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid.

    Also, this is a supplement that I am curious about. It is called: The One from Front of the Pack

    Ingredients:

    Active ingredients
    Ingredient Typical values per scoop
    Partially hydrolyzed guar gum (SunFiber®) 525mg
    Whole Antarctic krill meal (Qrill®; Euphasia superba) 500mg
    Glucosamine HCI (GreenGrown® [shellfish-free]) 250mg
    Chondroitin Sulphate (CS b-Bioactive® [bovine]) 100mg
    Methylsulfonylmethane (OptiMSM®) 100mg
    Taurine (Ajipure®) 100mg
    Curcumin Phytosome® complex (Meriva®; Curcuma longa [root]) 60mg
    L-carnitine (Carniking®) 50mg
    Bifidobacterium lactis BPL1 CECT 8145 (heat-treated) 50mg
    Green tea extract (Sunphenon® 90D; Camellia sinesis [leaf], decaffeinated) 40mg
    Certified organic ashwagandha extract (Sensoril®; Withania somnifera [root, leaf]) 30mg
    L-theanine (Suntheanine® enzymatically produced/solvent-free) 25mg
    Other ingredients
    Certified organic brown kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum), sea buckthorn (Hippophae rhamnoides [fruit]), natural chicken flavor (vegan), silicon dioxide mineral source; stabilizer/carrier for L-carnitine].

    1 Certified organic by EcoCert
    2 Certified organic by Baystate Organic Certifiers

    Macronutrient facts
    Amount per serving
    Calories < 4
    Calories from fat < 2
    Total fat < 0.2g
    Total carbohydrate 0.4g
    Dietary fiber 0.4g
    Sugars 0g
    Protein 0.3g
    Not intended to replace meals or food. Use as a supplement only.

    #172051

    In reply to: No Hide Chews

    aimee
    Participant

    Hi Amina,

    I’m glad you found the information helpful. It is hard to believe that it has been a little over 3 1/2 years since my initial post when I, like you, tried to recreate a No Hide using labeled ingredients. It is interesting to note that when the Pennsylvania Department of Agriculture sent Salmon No Hide for testing the lab reported a protein content of 88.49%. This suggests that the water, carbohydrate, fat, and ash taken together would be ~ 11.5%. Starch test results were reported as 0.5% . Truly baffling to me when I consider the reported ingredients. It appears to me that there is an unreported nitrogen source in this product. ( In lab analysis protein is estimated based on nitrogen testing) and I have no explanation for the very low reported starch content in a product which lists brown rice flour as the second ingredient.

    There is a lot of information since posted about this product and a current class action suit that alleges the product contains rawhide.

    I don’t know that there are any truly “safe” chews. There is risk and benefit in everything. If looking for a consumable dental chew I’d suggest you choose from the Veterinary Oral Health Council accepted products for dogs list. Personally, I look for a product that was found effective against plaque and I appreciate that Greenies are formulated to meet AAFCO maintenance making it easy to incorporate them into a feeding plan without concern of unbalancing the diet. Keep in mind that just as we need to see a dentist regularly despite daily brushing and flossing, your dog also needs to be treated by a veterinarian on a regular basis.

    #168761
    Anthony A
    Participant

    Hey I’ve been feeding my dog this food his whole life and I wanted to get some opinions on it. He’s a 11 month old working line german shepherd. It’s a freshly made slow cooked food that I get delivered to my home every 4 weeks. These are the ingredients, this is the puppy formula.

    Puppy Formula Dog Food
    Pet Wants Puppy Dog Food is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO dog food nutrient profiles for the Growth and Lactation/Gestation Stages including growth of large breed dogs (70 lb. or more as an adult).

    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein, min – 28.0%
    Crude Fat, min – 17.0%
    Crude Fiber, max – 3.5%
    Moisture, max – 10.0%
    Omega 6 Fatty Acid * (min) – 3.25%
    Omega 3 Fatty Acid * (min) – 0.68%
    * Not recognized as an essential nutrient by AAFCO dog food nutrient profiles.

    Ingredient Panel:
    Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, Ground Grain Sorghum, Dried Plain Beet Pulp, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Oat Groats, Whitefish Meal, Egg Product, Natural Flavor, Brewers Dried Yeast, Pea Protein, Menhaden Fish Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Whole Ground Flaxseed, Canola Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols), Lecithin, Chicken Cartilage (Source of Chondroitin Sulfate), Potassium Chloride, Salt, DL-Methionine, L-Lysine, Choline Chloride, Dried Cranberries, Dried Blueberries, Fructooligosaccharide, Turmeric Powder, Dried Carrots, Dried Spinach, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl- 2-Polyphosphate, Mixed Tocopherols, Niacin Supplement, Kelp Meal, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Acetate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Citric Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Manganese Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, Dried Bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, Dried Lactobacillus reuteri fermentation product.

    #168103
    Gloria T
    Participant

    Karen W. Re: My post above.
    The Chewy phone number is 1 800-672-4399. It looks like they do carry your food.
    I saw on this site that the dog food advisor does not rate or review prescription diets.

    There is a lot of scientific research on pubmed com and other sites about treating your dog (and people ) with baking soda ( bicarbonate of soda) to slow down and actually stop the progression of kidney disease.I read that it works.
    Good luck for your dogs
    Gloria

    #164889

    In reply to: High Alt levels

    Patricia A
    Participant

    Hi..Diane has your vet ruled out what possibly is causing these high ALT”s from puppyhood? Glad to hear ultrasound is normal . Below are some common causes of the high ALT levels. ALT is an enzyme that may be released with any source of damage to the liver. Blunt trauma, anaphylactic reaction, systemic illness such as thyroid disorders, and other problems that have nothing to do with the liver can cause an elevation of ALT in the blood. Just because ALT is elevated doesn’t mean the liver is failing, however. This result is interpreted in conjunction with clinical signs and other bloodwork and imaging changes.
    Increased ALT

    Common Causes
    • Inflammatory
    o Infectious causes
     Bacterial cholangiohepatitis
     Leptospirosis
     Feline infectious peritonitis (FIP)  Histoplasmosis
     Infectious canine hepatitis
    o Noninfectious causes

     Chronic hepatitis
     Cirrhosis
     Pancreatitis
    • Toxic
    o NSAIDS
    o Phenobarbital
    o Corticosteroids
    o Methimazole/carbimazole
    • Liver hypoxia or hypoperfusion o Anemia
    o Congestive heart failure
    o Shock
    • Metabolic disorders
    o Hyperthyroidism (cats)
    o Hepatic lipidosis (cats)
    o Cushing’s disease
    o Diabetes mellitus/diabetic ketoacidosis
    • Neoplasia
    • Trauma
    Generated by VetConnect® PLUS: Alanine Aminotransferase (ALT) Page 1 of 3

    Uncommon Causes
    • Portosystemic shunts (usually mild elevations if any)
    • Toxic
    o Mushroom
    o Sago palm
    o Aflatoxin
    o Ragwort (horses) o Xylitol
    o Tetracycyline
    o Idiosyncratic drug reactions
    • Inherited
    o Copper storage disease (certain dog breeds, but particularly severe in Bedlington Terriers)
    o Lysosomal storage disorders
    • Severe skeletal myopathy, usually mild to moderate increases
    • Nutritional hepatopathies
    • Gastroenteritis
    Related Findings
    • Inflammatory
    o Increased AST, ALP, GGT, total bilirubin
    o Decreased albumin, cholesterol, glucose, BUN in severe cases
    o Increased bile acids and ammonia
    o Positive titers or PCR for leptospirosis, feline coronavirus (FIP), histoplasmosis o Positive bacterial or fungal culture of liver/bile
    o Histopathology/cytology findings consistent with inflammatory hepatic diseases o Increased Spec cPL® or Spec fPL® with pancreatitis
    • Metabolic
    o Hyperthyroidism
     Increased T4, free T4, free T4 by equilibrium dialysis
    o Hepatic Lipidosis
     Increased ALP
     GGT usually normal unless concurrent inflammatory disease is present  Enlarged liver on radiographs, hyperechoic liver on ultrasound
     Cytology/histopathology consistent with hepatic lipidosis
    o Cushing’s Disease
     Increased ALP
     Decreased urine specific gravity
     Stress leukogram: increased neutrophils and monocytes, decreased lymphocytes and/or eosinophils  Adrenal function tests consistent with Cushing’s disease
    o Diabetes Mellitus
     Increased serum glucose and glucosuria  Increased fructosamine
     Ketonuria (in severe cases)
    • Neoplasia
    o Enlarged/irregular liver on radiographs and/or ultrasound o Cytology/histopathology findings consistent with neoplasia

    • This reply was modified 4 years, 11 months ago by Patricia A.
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    #164820
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ryan,
    I feed Patch – “Canidae Pure Senior” its has 10.80%max- fat, high protein-30% & low/med carbs around 30%carbs, also the lower the fat% & lower the protein% kibbles are higher the carbs, same with HIGH fiber diets can also cause Acid reflux, too much Omega oils, NSAID, steriod medications, joint, Arthritis, skin supplements, can also cause acid reflux…

    Look at Canidae Pure Weight Management kibble its 9%-fat, has same or very similar ingredients to the Canidae Pure Senior kibble & the fiber is 5% alot of Weight Management kibbles are low fat but high in fiber.
    https://www.canidae.com/dogs/canidae-pure-grain-free-weight-management-dry-dog-food-chicken/

    I try & stick with around 10-13%max- Fat, 30%-Protein & 30%-Carbs, fiber-5% & under & the kibble has to have Potato or Sweet Potato or both.
    People don’t realise the dog also needs low/med carbs & try & avoid fermentable grains as they ferment in the gut causing acid reflux – wheat, barley, oats and rye, most vet diets contain these grains Patches acid reflux seems to get worse when eating grain Gastrointestinal vet diets .
    What I’ve found over the years, dogs who suffer with Acid reflux seem to do better on a Grain Free Potato diets, when the dog is having a acid reflux attack- I boil Sweet potato in small pieces & I freeze – take out 1 piece sweet potato, put on plate in Microwave to thaw then I mash the sweet potato give to dog, the potato settles dog or human esophagus, throat & stomach…
    For Lunch I buy Tin- Yellow Fin Tuna, Tuna is the lowest in fat & low in omega oils, Sardines & Salmon are too strong for Patch, he mouth licks, I add boiled mashed White & Sweet Potato also add the white of a boiled egg sometimes, the yellow egg yoke is high in fat.
    For his Arthritis he’s 12yrs old now, I’ve been doing Physiotherapy twice a day as he cant take NSAID drugs, his vet said Physio will extend his life as alot of dogs get Put To Sleep cause they become so stiff & cant walk in the end, he takes Panadol Children Chewable 3+years 120mg when in pain, 10mg per kg..
    I do the Sausage Roll Massage as your massaging & rolling dog skin you’ll feel dogs skin flinching stop & hold the twitching roll/skin for 5-10sec it will be a bit uncomfortable at first so offer the dog treats or his kibble after 1 week its not as painful & Patch rolls have stop twitching.

    Have you joined F/B group called “Acid Reflux in Dogs” I cant believe how many poor dogs are suffering with Acid Reflux.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1635198406751056

    #164501
    Lacey S
    Participant

    The problem with corn is that it’s a high glycemic carbohydrate. Dogs are biological carnivores and still basically have the same DNA as wolves. While dogs can handle 20-30% of their diets being carbohydrates without a problem, does it really make sense that a high glycemic carb would be the ideal source of nutrition for canines?

    High glycemic carbs are the primary cause of diabetes in humans, and it only follows that dogs would have a similar outcome (especially since they’re carnivores).

    #163728
    James F
    Participant

    At the age of 1-3 months, it is recommended to feed puppies with natural food: meat (low-fat), eggs, fermented milk products, fish, cereals, vegetables, fruits. At the same time, protein products should make up at least 70% of the diet, the rest can be supplemented with carbohydrates and”milk”. Meat and fish can be raw or cooked.

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    #162101
    Chipy
    Participant

    Glorida, you can feed your pup dehydrated treats but it’s best to use meat as the main ingredient to keep the sugar and carb content low.

    This article explains what veggies are good for dogs;
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11014993-what-veggies-are-good-for-dogs

    When it comes to fruits, you need to be more careful due to fructose, the natural sugar that is present in fruits. The rule of thumb is to feed fruit at least one hour before feeding meat or other proteins and a minimum of three hours after a protein meal because fruit digestion on its own is fast. When you feed fruit with protein it sits in the stomach much longer, which may lead to undesirable fermentation and production of a small amount of alcohol.

    Why fruit and protein should not be fed together:
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11015005-why-fruit-and-protein-should-not-be-fed-together

    Lastly, here is a healthy homemade treat recipe that my pup absolutely loves;
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/all-natural-homemade-dog-treat-recipe

    I hope this helps. Wishing you and your pup all the best!

    #160616
    aimee
    Participant

    Hi Patricia,

    If you asking if the star ratings can be relied upon to pick a lower fat product I’d have to say they can be used as a starting point but always do your own evaluation. This is no fault of the site it is factor of how manufacturers report their numbers AND the formula may have been changed since the last review or information may not transfer across line like you think it would

    Looking at Primal’s website today, they report their Turkey and Sardine raw frozen recipe to have a G.A. of min protein of 16% and min fat as 17% for both the pronto and and patties forms. But the nugget analysis reports min 16% protein and min 7 % fat. Which is it?? I think the 17 may be a typo because when using 17 the GA is over 100%. but I don’t know for sure where the error is. Is it a low fat diet or a high fat diet? I cant tell from the website. Maybe the product label would have the correct information I do find it disconcerting that the manufacturer hasn’t noted and corrected, a red flag for me.

    Looking at the ratio of reported protein and fat give you an idea I like to see at least twice a much protein as fat for my dogs and closer to three Personally, I don’t want more than about 33% of calories from fat for my crew and even the 5 star raw often are far above that.

    You can also compare calorie counts on a weight basis ( kcals/kg) as the higher fat products will have higher calories . And you can go to balance it dot com and under their help section is a tool called guaranteed analysis converter. You put in the information and it tells you what percent of calories come from fat But like this site, anything unaccounted for will be considered carb when it may actually be fat Getting a typical analysis from manufacturer is best.

    #160557
    Patricia A
    Participant

    You’re welcome Madison.
    Aimee you’re so knowledgable with understanding the ratio breakdowns. I wish companies would make it easier and give real amount and not min/max. I get a little ptsd with even looking at a label. I went to Catholic school in the 60’s and if you didn’t get your math right you’d get the dreaded “paddle”. lol
    Is my understanding of the star ratings correct. Being that if I pick the Primal Freeze dried in a protein/flavor rated 5* it would be higher in protein then fat? When I fed the lower stars (2.5) they always got lose stool. So it made sense to me. The DFA also clarifies at the bottom of his breakdown/reviews for the brand as a whole.
    So, yes I see that some of the freeze dried in Primal are lower star ratings. Hence the review of above fats . However, the ones with the 5* are lower? Uhhh..hope I’m making sense with this probably senseless question. They are doing well on the food but I like to rotate brands somewhat and want to know if I come across in the future I will know if I’m picking one with more meat then fat.
    Below is the overall review for Primal Freeze Dried. Thank’s Aimee for helping me.

    Above-average protein. Above-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to other raw dog foods.

    Even when you consider the mild protein-boosting effect of the alfalfa, this looks like the profile of a raw dog food containing an abundance of meat.

    However, with 64% of the total calories in our example coming from fat versus just 33% from protein, some recipes may not be suitable for every animal.
    Bottom line?
    Primal Freeze-Dried Formula is a grain-free raw dog food using an generous of named meats and organs as its main source of animal protein, thus receiving 5 stars.
    Enthusiastically recommended.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 3 months ago by Patricia A.
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    #160489
    aimee
    Participant

    Hi Madison,
    I will disclose that I’m not a fan of raw feeding so that you can keep that in mind as you read my comments.

    I have used raw foods as a topper and I have cooked them before feeding as a “kill” step for pathogens.
    Of the companies offering raw I think Natures Variety is the best option because it best meets criteria that are important to me ( boarded veterinary nutritionist on staff, all products are HPP’d for pathogen control)

    In general controlled fat levels are used for pets with digestive concerns and in my experience most raw diets are very high in percent of calories that come from fat. However, it takes a bit of sleuthing to figure that out as I often note that fat levels reported as Min fat is lower than the actual fat.

    Patricia, I think the reason you are finding the same food offered as raw or freeze dried reported with different star rating and average fat amounts has to do with how the company is reporting nutrients. For example raw frozen chicken the GA is min 14.5 % protein, 8% fat and max 2 fiber and 74 moisture. Adding those up and subtracting from 100 leaves 2.5% of the diet unaccounted for which is assumed to be carbs. In the freeze dried raw chicken the GA is min protein 55 min fat 27 max fiber 1.5 and max moisture 8. Adding those up and subtracting from 100 leaves 8.5% unaccounted for, assumed by this site to be carbohydrate. But the carbohydrate content of this food would be minimal as the only really source is carb in the form of stored glycogen in muscle or liver. More likely that unaccounted 8.5% is fat or protein. Protein is costly fat is cheap and the higher fat content is accounted for in the frozen version. This becomes evident when you look at the reported protein to fat ratios in the G.A. 14.5/8 =1.8:1 for the raw but jumps to 2:1 in the freeze dried version. Hence the raw is given high fat rating than the freeze dried even though they are reportedly the same recipe. This si one of the problems with rating foods based on a G.A. which reports mins and max.

    Hope this helps your understanding.

    #158111

    In reply to: Short Bowel Syndrome

    Karen G
    Participant

    Hello Lily and everyone,

    Karen Here…Mom of Abby who is doing so great you would never know she lost 70% of her small bowel. Lily, What I have learned is Baker needs time to heal, It took close to 2 years before Abby was completely healed (and as a nurse I can tell you, even with humans, a wound may be closed but the healing underneath takes up to 2 years). Secondly, getting a good home made dog food recipe really made the difference for Abby. She hated all the prescription kibble and her poops were always watery and frequent, up to 10 times a day, when she was on some of those foods (Purina in particular)
    Thirdly, Metronidazole daily helped to keep her gut flora in check. She was on Metronidazole 2 times daily for about 10 months. when we could see that she was improving we slowly weaned it….really slowly
    Four: If Baker lost his ilium, he will need injections of B12 for the rest of his life. B12 is absorbed in the ilium so if you don’t have one anymore then you can’t absorb it.
    Five: get Baker away from probiotics. We were giving Abby probiotics for a year after the injury thinking we were helping her but if you look at the type of bacillus in probiotics, at least half of the species are lactose-bacillus. Lacto bacillus is the most common bacteria in the stomach, duodenum, and jejunum. If Baker lost his lower intestines then giving him more of the bacteria he naturally produces in the upper intestines will overrun what little lower GI bacteria he can produce, which will contribute to more diarrhea and discomfort.
    I can’t help you with the hind end pain problem, but certainly when Abby was pooping 10 times a day she wasn’t comfortable. Could it be a post surgical/scar tissue problem? That hurts.

    Anyway, I am happy to send you any and all information I have. The prescription home made diet recipe was a game changer for Abby and I have shared this recipe with Stephanie too. I believe it also had a very good result for Maui. The recipe is specifically designed for dogs who have lost much of their small intestine (the part that absorbs most nutrients). It is a low fat, high carb, high protein, lots of veg diet and we add a vitamin supplement and a small amount of canola oil every meal (very small amount…1ml to each meal). The recipe was created by a clinical nutritionist veterinarian at the Ontario Veterinary College…which is 15 minutes away from where we live (The OVC saved abby’s life that fateful night, another regular vet office would not have been able to save her –her story has even been used in case studies at the OVC)
    Finally, Abby’s weight dropped significantly in the first year after her surgery, she lost almost 25% of her post op weight after 6months. That is when we started the homemade diet and daily metronidazole and stopped the probiotics.
    Let me know what you think….Karen
    my email address is [email protected]

    #157888
    Patricia A
    Participant

    Jude when it comes to kibble you need low carbs and higher protein. Hard to find a kibble low in carbs since it needs a starchy binder to hold it together. So maybe do away with kibble altogether.. I have a Chihuahua who tends to get chubby . My other Chihuahua is the same size and is fed same amount and stays slim. Yet, the chubby one is much more active. I think the secret is cutting food down. I never go by what they say on bag. I feed kibble as a VERY VERY small portion of food. Kibble is what tends to put the weight on my chubby one and now that weather is hot here and they get less walks I cut down to just a few along with their freeze dried food. I used string beans and one freeze dried as a treat. I stick to 5* proteins and brands as per DFA reviews. They also get home cooked LEAN boiled white meat chicken, fish(salmon) in tiny amounts, lean steak when we have. Bits of watermelon etc. But secret is cut down on food smaller portions gradually. Then when weather permits a walk as much as a 17 can do comfortably.

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    #157328
    Susan
    Participant

    Yes I use the Vitalitae Calm biscuits, (Australia)
    I give 1/2 a Vitaitae biscuit around 11am & CBD Oil 3 drops some nights for my boy lower back pain, also adding Hemp seeds to diet is really good as well, but you still need to have a very strict routine, dogs love routine they feel safe as they know what’s going to happen next…no new things to bring on anxieties also work out what brings on dog triggers…
    Here’s the Calming treats ingredients, read the ingredients to get an idea what ingredients are needed to reduce stress, anxieties, joint pain etc….
    Hemp Seed Oil, Hemp Seed Protein, Ginger, Chamomile, Flaxseed Meal, calcium Carbonate, Vitamins & Minerals (incl. Vitamin B Complex), L-Tryptophan

    Ask vet about “Cartrophen Vet Injections” for arthritis pain, Cartrophen Vet finds the dogs pain, it’s all natural so no side affects, the injection is given under the dogs thick skin back of dogs neck area. First Patch had 4 weekly injections for 1 month that lasted 1 yr, now Patch is having monthly Cartrophen Vet Injections now its Winter…Pain can also cause dog to shake, stress, be uncomfortable.

    What is Cartrophen Vet?

    #156925

    In reply to: Ketona?

    andrea g
    Member

    Thanks for sharing that information, Roger. I spent months researching dog food. I did settle on feeding them raw for multiple reasons, one of which was low carb. I’ve had to cut back on raw because of uncertainty with my job during this covid thing so this food, lowest carb I could find, fit the bill. Not sure how I feel about this. In any case, I just hope that what they say is in there is what’s in there. I am surprised Daniel didn’t post in the forum so that everyone could see as he had posted before. Thanks again. Take care and stay safe.

    #156875
    Chipy
    Participant

    Hi Jake,

    I am sorry to hear that you are going through this with your beloved pup, and understand that you would like to provide him with some immediate relief.

    Allergies and skin problems are often the signals that the body is out of balance. Dr. Dobias has written several articles on the topics of allergies and paw licking that I have shared with you below. Many dog lovers are surprised to learn about the underlying cause of these common issues and the natural protocols that can be super helpful.

    WHY ARE SKIN ALLERGIES IN DOGS OFTEN MISDIAGNOSED?
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11014037-why-are-skin-allergies-in-dogs-often-misdiagnosed

    WHY DOGS LICK THEIR PAWS – NATURAL APPROACH TO TREATMENT:
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11015041-why-dogs-lick-their-paws-natural-approach-to-treatment

    5-STEP HOLISTIC APPROACH TO PAW LICKING IN DOGS:
    https://peterdobias.com/blogs/blog/11014073-what-you-should-know-about-paw-licking-and-chewing-in-dogs

    Apoquel can look like a miracle for dogs with allergies and their human companions watching them itch, however the negative effects of this drug are now well documented.

    I recommend that you seek the guidance of a local holistic/integrative vet to help you with alternative treatment options and also have your dog’s spine checked by a chiropractor – as issues with spinal health are related to skin problems in dogs. I have included some links to help you find holistic practitioners in your area:

    VetFinder – Find a Holistic Veterinarian


    http://www.civtedu.org/directory/

    Regarding diet, it’s best to avoid processed food (kibble and canned food) entirely and provide a fresh, raw or cooked diet for your dog. Dry dog food/kibble is is an extruded, highly processed product full of synthetic ingredients and starchy carbohydrates, which are very often the main cause of allergies. Every medical professional knows that fresh food is always healthier than processed food!

    Fine tuning your dog’s body with a species appropriate diet and essential nutrients is the key to supporting his health and well-being. The best diet is as nature intends; fresh meat and bones with some vegetables and leafy greens, along with all natural vitamins, minerals, omega-3’s and probiotics;

    Here is a link to a quick and easy Natural Diet Course which contains videos and articles full of information on this subject and an online Recipe Maker which will help you build healthy meals for your pup with the ingredients you have available:

    https://peterdobias.com/pages/course-rawdiet

    https://recipemaker.peterdobias.com

    We switched to home-made meals many years ago and it was the best decision for our pup. I hope you will find these free resources helpful and wish you and your boy the best in good health.

    Chipy

    #156768
    haleycookie
    Member

    Lowing protein and raising carbs is going to result in a fat old dog.

    The gassy dog is likely sensitive to something in the wellness. I would try to transition to another quality food and see if getting away from the chicken in wellness may help the gassy dog.

    Edit: or if you’re happy with wellness with the older dog just feed gassy dog a different LID food.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by haleycookie.
    #154578
    kelly C
    Participant

    First time here and thank you all for all your tips and advises. Really helpful. I have a little dog that is malipoo who will be turning 13 yrs this coming June. He is a really happy and playful dog full of love and joy always. He’s been on anti seizure med since he was 2 and was diagnosed diabetic Aug 2017 ( He was 10 ) I am planning on switching his food to a new food as recently switched food is not settling too well from stomach to his BG ( Blood Glucose ) fluctuations. Thinking of switching to Orijen Senior Dog Food.
    I need to look out for 2 things in his food 1) Diabetes ( low carb, high fiber )
    2) Seizures ( No rosemary and grain free which i have learnt )
    My question/request now is can you tell me if the ingredients listed below is good ( safe for seizures )

    ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️

    Orijen Senior Dog Food

    85% QUALITY ANIMAL INGREDIENTS| 15% VEGETABLES & FRUIT
    Fresh chicken meat (13%), fresh cage-free eggs (7%), fresh turkey meat (7%), fresh whole herring (7%), fresh chicken liver (6%), fresh whole flounder (4%), fresh turkey liver (4%), fresh chicken necks (4%), fresh chicken heart (4%), fresh turkey heart (4%), chicken (dehydrated, 4%), turkey (dehydrated, 4%), whole mackerel (dehydrated, 4%), whole sardine (dehydrated, 4%), whole herring (dehydrated, 4%), whole red lentils, whole green lentils, fresh whole green peas, lentil fibre, fresh whole chickpeas, fresh whole yellow peas, whole pinto beans, fresh chicken cartilage (1%), whole navy beans, herring oil (1%), chicken fat (1%), fresh turkey cartilage (1%), chicken liver (freeze-dried), turkey liver (freeze-dried), fresh whole pumpkin, fresh whole butternut squash, fresh whole zucchini, fresh whole parsnips, fresh carrots, fresh whole Red Delicious apples, fresh whole Bartlett pears, fresh kale, fresh spinach, fresh beet greens, fresh turnip greens, brown kelp, whole cranberries, whole blueberries, whole Saskatoon berries, chicory root, turmeric root, milk thistle, burdock root, lavender, marshmallow root, rosehips, Enterococcus faecium. ADDITIVES (per kg): Nutritional additives: Zinc chelate: 100 mg.

    Thank you all. 🙏🏼🐶❤️

    #154469
    Marisa J
    Participant

    Hi I work at a pet store and have a hand full of customers with Shih Tzu’s.

    If your dog has a sensitive stomach I would recommend adding goat’s milk (a universal milk) into your dogs diet. This will not only aid in digestion but also add hydration too! Some brands even added spices into the goat milk for added benefits.

    If not goat’s milk I would encourage you to find a good probiotic powder for your dog. This will help with the sensitivity of your dogs stomach.

    Merrick is good brand and Duck is a cooling protein (this will help with any inflammation). I would recommend after 2 months switching through Merrick’s formulas to help your dog become accustomed to other proteins and amino acids.

    Other brands that are high in protein and low in carb (easier to digest) are Zignature, Orijen, Farmina, Acana, and Essence.

    If your dog has a sensitive stomach I would also try introducing freeze dried treats. These treats are a lot easier to digest than biscuit treats. I only give my dogs freeze-dried raw treats.

    #154273
    Marisa J
    Participant

    If you are looking to switch over to a food without chicken and has grains I highly recommend Farmina or Inception. These foods are amazingly high in protein from animal meat and low in carb for a grain diet. I would highly advise you stay away from grains as the research I’ve done has shown that it is harder for their organs to digest, however, I understand with the fear of DCM. But the results are inconclusive, as I have read both 70 page articles on it. Its more so a kibble problem it looks like than a grain free vs with grains. Also, there are far more common diseases like pancreatitis, cancer, kidney disease, and liver disease.

    If you want to switch over to grain diet watch for any symptoms of smelly ears, itching, or hot spots as your dog may have a grain allergy as well.

    Fromm cannot tell you the amount of protein in their food from animal meat. Their bags are also high in carb as they use high glycemic index foods like potatoes. If you really want to add grains into the diet please look into Inception and Farmina Ancestral Grains.

    #153491
    haleycookie
    Member

    How about doing research of your own? Find a low carb food and feed that. You’re dog will be more satiated and loose weight while keeping muscle. Vets usually don’t know much about nutrition unfortunately. The big three are all filled with carbs which will lead to weight gain in most dogs if not careful. As far as allergies go. My lab has seasonal allergies outside so I have to wipe his paws off and his lower belly if he walks in grass while outside. That helps a little but some of those allergies aren’t possible to completely get rid of.

    #153388

    In reply to: Ratings understanding

    Patricia A
    Participant

    Ed E this is DFA reply…

    Thanks for your email. For the last 6 years, we have prepared, posted and maintained more than 1000 dog food reviews representing some 4100 different recipes. Although every recipe is analyzed together with all the other “siblings” in its product line, we select one example and discuss it in detail in every review published on our website.

    In many cases, we award a higher or lower star rating for specific recipes — known as “outliers”. There are a number of reasons why we might assign different star ratings to different recipes within the same product line. And the most common cause for these variations is typically due to our estimate of the meat content of a particular recipe. Or in some cases, we observe a higher or lower fat-to-protein ratio.

    If you check the protein, fat and carbohydrate figures for a product, you should be able to see this difference.

    Hope this helps.

    Jackie B.
    Community Support
    The Dog Food Advisor

    To view the entire conversation please click here

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 9 months ago by Patricia A.
    #153081
    Patricia A
    Participant

    You might want to give Stella & Chewy’s a try. I know many pet owners comment on their f/b page and under reviews on their f/b page that they went through many foods but will eat Stella’s kibble and do very well with feeding their food https://www.facebook.com/pg/stellaandchewys/reviews/?ref=page_internal believe it’s high protein average fat and low carbs. As dogs forever suggested also that incorporating a little raw would be great. I myself use Stella’s alternating between their raw coated chicken grains free and also grain inclusive. No stomach trouble ever.e My two also are fed freeze dried in different brands with the flavors/proteins which are lower in fat since my one tends to get diarrhea also from the higher fat foods. Just make sure when introducing new kibble or other foods that you go VERY, VERY, VERY slowly. Hope this helps.

    • This reply was modified 5 years, 10 months ago by Patricia A.
    #152415

    In reply to: Fat to protein ratio?

    Patricia A
    Participant

    Kathryn congrats on your new little puppy. The ratings are for the WHOLE of the brand. I stick with enthusiastically recommended for what’s it’s worth. But I only get the proteins/flavors for that brand that have the 5* rating. I use Stella’s and Primal freeze dried with Stella’s kibble in rotation of proteins and grain free and also grain inclusive. I got my two Chihuahuas’ SLOWLY used to this rotation. So if you notice DFA rates Primal enthusiastically recommend even though SOME of the proteins/flavors such as chicken is rated low. I believe it’s because it’s higher in fat. These brands also have lower carbs which I like in a food. Hope this helps.

    #152333

    In reply to: Grain Free (Topic 4)

    haleycookie
    Member

    The fda actually recommends staying on whatever food you feed as there is little to no real research done yet. It’s been over a year and still crickets on what is actually the cause. It’s also only been reported in a few hundred dogs. Hundred. Not thousand, million, etc. now let’s compare that to the rate of cancer and diabetes in dogs and ask why those diseases aren’t being looked into a little more.

    I’ll be sticking with low carb high meat foods. Which usually are grain free.

    #151488

    Topic: Lymphoma

    in forum Diet and Health
    CM86
    Participant

    My dog has a high suspicion of Lymphoma. Secondary testing at the end of the week will either deny or confirm.

    I am already trying to be proactive in the even it is in fact bad news. Yesterday I grabbed the lowest carb food I could find at my local non-chain pet store. I ended up with Orijen Regional Red which contains 15% fruits and vegetables which is the only part which would contain any carbs….the rest of the food was 30-40% fruits and veggies.

    I need to do more research, but for the mean time I at least wanted to make some progress which the food change over. I am currently blending the Orijen Regional Red into his current food which contains sweet potatoes (carbs grrr).

    Was this a waist of money or was getting him on regional red until I figure out a better game plan a helpful decision ?

    #151148
    Marisa J
    Participant

    I work at a pet store and I can tell you I’ve only ever had one dog deny Farmina so far. And the dog was fed raw and they were looking to find a kibble. So, when going from something so fresh to something cooked and not fresh it’s pretty hard.

    Farmina is awesome though! They are a high protein kibble and low carb. They are from Italy so the standards there are much higher than any USA dog food.

    They produce bags to vendors orders. So it’s nice to know that these bags are not sitting on a shelf waiting for dust.

    They also press fruits and vegetables together and spray this on their kibble for a vitamin supplement. So no random vitamin E supplement purchased from the market. And I think this is why so many dogs and cats love their food.

    They also cold press their ingredients into the shape.

    Farmina is an awesome kibble! Their bags range in price too depending on proteins and flavors too.

    #151034
    haleycookie
    Member

    KD is almost nothing but carbs with a tad bit of fat and even a smaller amount of protein. I would honestly switch to a canned or raw/cooked diet. You’ll want low phos which is what KD does in the cheapest (but most expensive price tag) way. I would ask the vet to be sent to a vet nutritionalist to see if they can help u formulate a high protein low fat low carb diet for your dogs using fresh ingredients. You’ll see the fat melt off your male and his allergies will likely improve as well.

    #150924

    In reply to: EPI and Diabetes :(

    GSDsForever
    Participant

    Re-Post (Disappeared – System Glitch)

    Comparing the 2 foods, the Farmina Light seems to fit all of your requirements and parameters much better.

    Hill’s W/D Dry, Actual/Typical Analysis
    Meat: Chicken Meal
    Grain-Inclusive: Whole Wheat, Cornmeal, & Oats + Corn Gluten, Cracked Pearled Barley
    +Cellulose, Beet Pulp for Fiber
    Protein: 20.7%
    Fat: 13%
    Fiber: 16%
    Carbs NFE: 45.1%
    Heart Health: Adds Taurine, L-Carnitine
    255 cal/C
    https://www.hillspet.com/dog-food/pd-wd-canine-dry

    Hill’s also helpfully provides this formula’s total dietary fiber and a breakdown of type: 27.6% total, most of which is insoluble at 25.5% (soluble: 1.9%).

    Farmina Light Chicken & Pomegranate w/Ancestral Grains, GA Analysis
    Meat/Animal Protein: Chicken & Herring (both fresh & dehydrated) + Whole Eggs
    Grain-Inclusive: Whole Spelt & Oats
    +Beet Pulp, Psyllium Seed Husks for Fiber
    Protein: 37.4%
    Fat: 12%
    Fiber: 7% (Max)*
    Carbs NFE: 30.9%
    Heart Health: Adds Taurine, L-Carnitine, DL-Methionine (precursor)
    338 cal/C
    https://www.farmina.com/us/dog-food/n&d-ancestral-grain-canine/113-chicken-&-pomegranate-light-medium-&-maxi.html

    *Veterinary standard of care for diets for EPI dogs is low fiber, low insoluble fiber. Usually when looking bag GAs for comparison, you are looking for <4% Crude Fiber. Here it is 6.4% Max, still higher than ideal for EPI, but much lower than Hill’s W/D. (For the actual/typical fiber & fat, you would need to ask Farmina.)

    *Adding a bit of fresh, homemade should bring down that fiber.

    #150721

    In reply to: EPI and Diabetes :(

    GSDsForever
    Participant

    These are couple diets some EPI dogs recently have done well on:

    Forza10 Legend Digestion (Actual Fiber ~1.5%)
    https://www.chewy.com/forza10-nutraceutic-legend-digestion/dp/209890

    Sport Dog Herding Dog Elite
    https://www.sportdogfood.com/products/herding-dog#ingredients

    Both are grain-free. You might try adding both lean protein + low fiber veggies (e.g. zucchini, squash, asparagus tips) and a very very small portion of a carefully chosen whole grain, to lower the percentage fat + carbs (while keeping protein high) AND be grain-inclusive. Mushrooms, are also low fiber, high protein per calories, and varieties like Maitake, Shiitake, Reishi, Enoki, and Turkey Tail/Trametes Versicolor are very good for cancer and the immune system.

    #150707

    In reply to: EPI and Diabetes :(

    haleycookie
    Member

    You will never find a low carb grain inclusive food sorry to say. See if you can be referred out to a vet nutritionalist to help formulate a low carb low fat homemade either raw or cooked diet. Kibbles HAVE to have a lot of carb to hold them together. Even the highest meat content in a kibble will still have ~30% carb. Might look into canned food options as well but again they will not be grain inclusive if they are low sugar carb fat etc. the closest I can think of are weruva and tiki dog. Usually dog foods that are in shreds of clearly chicken meat are going to be the lowest carb and lowest fat because they are basically just shredded muscle meat.

    #150683
    Victoria M
    Participant

    I’m going insane! I don’t know how many dog food labels I’ve read in the past six months. Feel like I’m getting nowhere.

    Bella just turned 13 (GSD x lab). In July she was diagnosed with Lymphoma. After only a few chemo treatments she had a severe bout of pancreatitis. Chemo had to stop.

    Pancreatitis finally cleared up and a milder form of chemo restarted. During a pre-chemo blood panel, she was found to have diabetes. After a few weeks of insulin but continued weight loss, they tested and diagnosed her with EPI. My poor dog!

    I have been on the hunt for food that will help keep both of these diseases at bay. Her vet also does NOT want her on any grain-free or raw food.

    Food has to be:
    Grain-inclusive
    Low-fat
    Low-carbs
    No sugars
    High protein
    No lamb

    Hoping someone can suggest a good food. She’s on Hill’s W/D right now, and it’s not going well so far. 🙁
    Thanks!

    #150342

    In reply to: High BUN

    Ania V
    Participant

    Hello,
    At first, thank you for this conversation which I read and has helped me a lot. Please, excuse my english as I am from Greece. My dog Maya is 16 years old and has kidney disease for 1,5 year (May 2018) with her BUN at 70 and Creatinine at 3.2 in her latest tests. Creatinine has been stabilised all this time around 3 but BUN has unfortunately increased. It was 56, around 4 months ago. I cook and feed her home food with beef all this 1,5 year with white bio rice, bio vegetables like butternut pumpkin, carrots, cale, green beans, sweet potato, bio apples and bio eggs (no yolks at all). I also give her carbonate calcium in her food and omega-3. Also, my vet subscribed PRONEFRA for the kidneys which Maya takes from the beginning and HEMOVET the last 4 months because her haematocrit (HCT) was a bit low (39). Now it is 42.4 again but the vet suggested to keep giving them. Her PHOS is normal at 4.6, never high or low.
    My question is what can I do to reduce BUN. I read that you suggest Probiotics and Acacia Fibers. Would that help Maya’s case? I would appreciate any suggestion and help as I am doing all this time a massive effort to keep her as healthy as I can. My vet has unfortunately confused me sometimes. For example, she told me when we had the latest tests that I should reduce the beef in her food in order to reduce protein. Is it a good idea to reduce protein now? She also told me to give Maya brown rice and not white, but I ‘ve read that this is not a good idea. I am confused and in need of advice regarding BUN’s latest increase.

    Thank you in advance.

    Ania

    #149695
    Sandy S
    Member

    My neighbor told me about this “”study”” , that was published in our local paper, back in July 2019.

    Almost all the dog food brands in this “”study”” . Almost all. Are of excellent quality.

    Specifically, Champion Brands. Origin and Acana.. Are high quality dog food. Available in Italy.

    Look at the bio availability of any of the ingredients. Meat/grain/legumes..

    You will see that your dog is eating a better bio available ration. Then you are..

    Thats why a vast majority of the dogs, that eat these high quality ration’s, thrive. The vast majority.

    High Quality = (Protein) Meat.Meat & more meat. Macro & micro minerals. Vitamin’s. Fat & fibre.
    Low or no grain (carbohydrates) / peas / bean’s lentil’s..

    Most dogs do better on meat. Cause A Dog. IS mostly a Carnivore.

    You don’t trust the considerable science that went into your dogs ration? Your dog is one of the few, that responds poorly to a high quality, bio available ration?

    Concerned about what meat (protein) your dog digest, & thrives on ? And or what carbohydrates (legumes/grain), your dog digest,best?

    Feed 1 protein at a time..Feed 1 carbohydrate at a time One. Example: 75gm’s Lamb (as is) with 25gm’s boiled Brown Rice..Total 100gms.

    WaLa! You’ve just made a good , bland, digestible,limited ingredient dog food. Try Whatever protein’s (meat). You want to.

    Your dog is one of the minority of dogs, that is having problem’s on a commercial dog food?

    If need be? Figuring out which basic ingredients, your dog does best on.. Will allow you to, see results from your own hands making your dog’s ration. Going in and going out..

    Then go match what you learned, with a commercial dog food..

    Dogs do best on meat.. You can add meat. For less cost then commercial dog food.

    You can easily add carbohydrates ( brown rice). For much less cost then dog food..

    The number one problem with all dog feed is > People feed their dogs way too much..

    That “”study””. Does not seem to be able to take into account market share of a dog breed (popularity). Nor the market share of the dog food brands.. Nor nothing specific about the ingredients? Something vague about the amount or digestibility of legumes? WTF? Just that some breeds seem to be more prone to heart problems..

    Then is not that whole FDA “”investigation””. Just bunk science? An “investigation” as a reaction to dog owner hysteria?

    What did i miss ?

    My dog is 8 years young & 33lbs of solid muscle.

    I feed 100 gram’s of dry dog food, like Origin or Keto ….. Not the manufactures recommended “200 grams” .

    NOT. 200 .. 100 gram’s ..of high quality meat, commercial dry dog food.

    Then I add 100 gram’s of “raw” meat & carbs. More Or less. I like to use 2/3 horse meat and 1/3 brown rice.. Your choice . Depending on what work’s best for your dog and your wallet.

    The cost of the above mixture , works out to about $1.50 per day ..

    Depending on how much I am running her. More when she work’s long and hard. Less when she is less active ..

    My dog (33lbs) requires at least 200 gram’s of dry dog food OR it’s equivalent per day ..

    6kg per month ..

    Many of these high quality dog feeds cost more then $1.50 + per gram !

    Thats a lot of coin for dog food . A whole lot !

    If need be. Figure out what meat your dog thrives on.. Then match up a commercial dog food…

    One protein . One carbohydrate.. Work it out from there..

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