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  • #128883

    In reply to: dog food questions

    joanne l
    Member

    Did anyone ever have dry dog food that smells like paint?? I am just starting to use holistic select lamb and it smells like paint of some sort.

    #128826
    Joseph G
    Member

    Hello. Your messages a few months old, but I figured I’d still reply to it. My dog has severe allergies as well and is very difficult. My dog is on Apoquel because her allergies are that bad
    And the benefits far outweigh any risk for her. She honestly hasn’t had any problems with the medication says she’s been on it, which has been a few years now. It doesn’t completely help with her allergies, but it definitely helps considerably. Even if I miss one dose, you can tell that she starts itching more. There is also a new medication called Cytopoint That is an injection that your vet gives your dog approximately every 4-6 weeks. After the initial evaluation of your dog, usually one of the techs can give your dog the injection and you don’t need to see your vet every time you go and pay an examination fee. You just pay for the injection. The injections aren’t super cheap, but it’s comparable or maybe less expensive than Apoquel. I haven’t tried it yet on my dog as she is doing okay on the Apoquel. Some people will say these injections are bad because they modulate the immune system, but they are safer than steroids and when your dog has severe allergies with horrible symptoms, sometimes you don’t have a choice. Trust me, I tried all the other stuff. Probiotics and other supplements might help, but you also have to be leery or ingredients in them your dog can be allergic to. The eggs in the food you were making can definitely cause allergies in dogs. Basically any protein is capable of producing an allergic response. In addition to Apoquel, I feed my dog Rayne Nutrition kangaroo manintenance dry food and canned food as a topper. It is a prescription food that you’ll need to have your vet approve when you order it online, but it is worth it. It is a whole-food dog food and has very high-quality ingredients in it. It is not like other prescription dog foods. This stuff is top-notch. The dog food and the Apoquel have helped my dog as much as possibly can be. I’m sure my dog is allergic to grass and other outdoor stuff, as well as some foods. Allergies to dog foods usually manifest as digestive issues. My personal feeling is that the Rayne dog food and Apoquel or Cytopoint would really help your dog. I would speak to your vet about it. Good luck!

    #128713
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Christine,
    What symptoms does your dog suffer with?? IBS stomach/bowel symptoms or just has skin allergies??
    He might have Seasonal Environment Allergies, now he’s doing better cause it’s Winter & plant/trees in your yard or neighbouring yards aren’t flowering etc
    You will know when Spring & Summer come back around keep a diary..
    Or he was sensitive to ingredient in the grain free food, my boy can NOT eat a G/F kibble that has Tapioca, he starts to smell yeasty, scratches, itchy, scratches bum on carpet, Lentils cause bad gas, wind pain then has diarrhea, when he eats Barley he gets yeasty smelly skin, yeasty paws & sloppy yellow poos, rubs bum on ground, Corn Gluten causes yeasty smelly skin, paws, sloppy poos then diarrhea & rubs bum on ground, Oats = yeasty skin, paws & sloppy yellow poos, rubs bum on ground, Carrot cause itchy ears, shaking his head/ears..He doesn’t do well on any grain formula’s..

    When he eats a grain free dry kibble that has Potato, Sweet Potatoes, Chickpeas further down the ingredient list his IBD & skin goes really well thru the Winter months then when Summer comes around something in the environment causes bad skin allergies, I know grass & wet grass is 1 allergens he suffer from, he goes down hill with itchy skin, red paws, whinging & he’s eating 1 of the same G/F foods he did well on thru Winter months, I rotate his G/F foods, Wellness Core, Wellness Simple Turkey & Potato & Canidae Pure Meadow Senior & Canidae Pure Wild Boar all Grain Free formula’s.

    If a dogs diet has too much Omega-6 & is way too low in omega-3, the omegas need to be balanced properly then the dog will suffer with skin problems…
    eg-Omega-6 Fatty Acids-2.80% Omega-3 fatty Acids-1.00%,
    Omegs-3 should be nilly 1/2 of what the Omega-6% is…

    Pet foods that are AAFCO aproved means nothing as some are NOT balanced properly… this is 1 thing Susan Thrixon pointed out in her recent link
    “DCM Study Misses the Big Picture”
    By Susan Thixton – December 14, 2018

    DCM Study Misses the Big Picture

    If he’s doing well on Blue Buffalo feed it but I would also rotate & feed another brand that has similair ingredients as the Blue Buffalo he does well on has. This way if there is something wrong with a certain batch, or its not balance properly etc he isnt eating the same dry dog food 24/7 also if ever something happens you know of another brand you can fall back onto..

    #128640
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Heather,

    “Canidae Pure Meadow” senior but its grain free, its high protein 28-30%
    low fat-10.80%, Low Carbs…
    Why dont you want to feed grain free?? not all grain free foods are bad & involved in the Low taurine in some dogs??..

    Patch has a square left hip socket, vets have never seen anything like this, they said he would have been born with it & would of had Arthritis from a pup, he started running on 3 legs about 1 year ago age 9yrs old….
    Then I started to feed him
    “Wellness Core” Large Breed Adult, its high in Protein-38%max, low/med-Fat-13% & high in Glucosamine/Chondroitin, low Carbs -30%, he stopped running on 3 legs..
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/core-large-breed-large-breed
    Then I rotate & feed “Canidae Pure Meadow” Senior,
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-meadow-dry-formula

    Canidae Senior is pretty good, it has 3 meat proteins 1st, 2nd & 3rd ingredients like the Wellness Core then a carb Sweet potatoes…

    Canidae ALS Platinum Senior has grains
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-all-life-stages-platinum-dry-formula

    Wellness has their “Wellness Complete Health Senior” grain formula but Patch cant eat barley gets diarrhea also this Wellness formula is high in carbs over 50%… I want to keep off the weight off his joints..

    Look at “Farmina”

    His Vet said we can give “Cartrophen Vet” Injections, they are given weekly for 4 weeks
    this way no NSAID drugs are being taken & causing stomach problems/ulcers….
    Patch has IBD & suffers with Acid Reflux so he cant take no meds for Arthritis..

    Dosage and Usage

    #128639
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ofek,
    what country are you in?
    What is he eating, what brand of dry food do you feed, why do you want to change his food is it cause he’s not gaining weight, are his poos firm? is he vomiting??
    are you feeding 3-4 smaller meals a day??

    #128635
    ofek l
    Member

    Hi Im sorry for using this forum but I don’t know how to start a new topic on my own.
    I’ve got this amazing 11 years old dog
    His a mixed dog- Canaanite and Golden Retriever.
    We had him since he was 2 moths old, and he was always healthy, extremely energetic dog.
    A few years ago he got very sick, mainly expressed in losing weight really fast ang being numb and down. He’s a large dog that by the vet should weight 30 kg when he’s healthy, and by this time he wieghtened 15 kg in his most severe condition.
    After several exams we found out he had Addisons’ disease, and he starded to recive a hormonalic treatment , so thank god now he’s stable, back being really energetic and happy dog, and he got he’s appetite back.
    But since the drastic slimming he’s not gaining enough weight and currently is 23 kg which is still very skinny for he’s size. He get a lot of meat and dry food.
    I want to change he’s food but i realy need advice for wich tipe of food is the best for his condition and for how long to give him a different food?

    #128630
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Vanessa,

    My boy has IBD & Seasonal Environment Allergies..
    Have a look at dry food that has Sweet Potatoes & Potato seem to help dogs when they have diarrhea/sloppy poos & stomach related probems…
    Look at

    “Canidae Pure Wild Boar” Page 3
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products

    “Canidae Under The Sun” Large Breed is low in Kcals per cup 328Kcals per cup.
    UTS is on Canidae’s first page.

    “Wellness Core” Large Breed Adult
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/core-large-breed-large-breed

    “Wellness Simple” Turkey & Potato
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/simple-dogs

    Wellness Core Large Breed Adult really help my boy when he went down hill with his Allergies causing a bad IBD flare about 1 yr ago, its low Kcals 346 per cup

    My boy is eating Wellness Simple Turkey & Potato kibble at the moment, it’s Summer here & the Wellness Simple is for skin & stomach problems & has 1 single meat protein & has limited carbs, the Wellness Simple Turkey Protein % is 26min% -28max%,
    lower protein then the Wellness Core formula’s.

    Wellness has “Nutrient Profiles PDF” you can see the proper max % fat, protein, fiber, carbs, ingredients etc…

    I’d try one of the Wellness Simple formula’s.
    Wellness have a palability money back guarantee so if he wont eat it take back & exchange.. Wellness smells pretty good & my cat pinches Patches Wellness Kibbles & she wont eat her meal now the little bugger..

    Or look at Raw – Stella & Chewy Patties or Raw Freeze Dried Kibble its like kibble he will lose weight eating a raw diet & might be more interested in his food..
    Just stay 14% & under for fat, low carbs & low kcals per cup for weight ..

    Start adding Tin Salmon or tin Tuna in Olive Oil, add 2 spoons to his meals, this will encourage him to eat, dogs normally love fishy foods & the Olive Oil will help with his constipation also boil some Pumkin or Sweet Potato pieces freeze them & take them out of freezer as needed they freeze & thaw very well, I put 1 piece of Sweet Potato in micro wave 5-8sec…Pumkin & Sweet Potato settle stomach..

    I wonder if he’s getting “acid reflux” 2am?? This is the time acid reflux starts early hours of the morning with dogs, have you tried Zantac or Famotidine a acid reducer? given twice a day 20-30mins before he eats a meal? ask vet can you try it might make him more comfortable thru the night & could be why he’s not keen on eating food he gets bad acid reflux afterwards??
    Labs normally LOVE their food… I’d stop the Coconut Oil as Omega oils can cause acid reflux.

    #128613

    In reply to: dog food questions

    joanne l
    Member

    Hi Susan, I decided to try Holistic Select first, it is the lamb and oatmeal. Well anyway I put a little bit in his food the first 3 days than a little more. The out come is he don’t like it, but just by mixing the dry food with his other dry food I already see improvement like , not licking his bottom so maybe it is the pro and prebiotics in this food that is helping? But I can’t continue it b/c he hates it. It does smell weird. Well now I am thinking about Nutrisource lamb and rice since it is almost similar ingredients and maybe he will like it better. What do you think?

    #128598
    anonymous
    Member

    Evidence Update: Grain-free and other “BEG” Diets Associated with Heart Disease in Dogs

    We would like a listing of dry kibble that is acceptable for our taurine deficient dog. Obviously the listing must be longer than just Royal Canine and Purina

    skeptvet says:
    December 18, 2018 at 9:05 am
    There is no such list. If you have read my articles on the subject, you know that the relationship between diet, taurine, and DCM is complex and evolving, so there is no way to make a simple “good food/bad food” distinction. I would suggest looking at the resources on the subject available the Tufts University Veterinary Nutrition Service or arranging a personal consult with a veterinary nutrition specialist.

    #128595
    InkedMarie
    Member

    For who,ever would like to reply: what dry foods do you think are good considering all that is going on lately?

    #128589
    crazy4cats
    Participant

    I think they know how to formulate their food correctly. They’ve had years of testing and research behind them. They have board certified veteranarian nutritionists with PhDs on their staff. They use ingredients with the correct amino acids that allow dogs to synthesize their own taurine as needed. That’s why!

    I’m sorry it took me so long to realize this. The marketing and Internet world sucked me in too. Quit looking at the ingredient panel. They know what you’re looking for and can split ingredients and weigh ingredients in different forms (wet vs dry) to make that label look just like what you want to see. Plus, you can’t tell the quality of ingredients by the label. Is that chicken meal mostly bone or muscle meat? Btw, by-products can be very good and more digestible than muscle meat. Just trust the big companies that follow the WSAVA guidelines.

    My dogs are doing just fine on Purina ProPlan. Good luck!

    #128567
    Heather B
    Member

    Hello!
    My 10yo pyrenees/retriever mix, has progressive arthritis in his hips. We give him supplements daily via GNC chewables and salmon oil (2450mg omega 3, 850mg EPA, 465mg DHA, 750mg Glucosamine, 600mg Chondroitin, and 500mg MSM). Our vet recommended Science Diet j/d in additional to the supplements, but Biscuit refuses to eat it, and after some research, I’m not convinced the quality is all that great outside of having more omega 3 and DHA than other foods. Can anyone recommend a high quality, senior-specific dry food that’s not grain free? I’ve read good things about Wellness but would love to know if there are other options we should consider. Thanks!

    #128554

    In reply to: dog food questions

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi,
    when I read Victors ingredients years ago I thought the same thing “YUK” Blood Meal” but when you think about it Victor is just writing what is in our dry kibble “blood & Bone”..
    When you see a kibble being made you see all the blood meat etc all swirling around & when this is all dried up its a blood meal… So all dry dog foods would have Blood in them..YUK

    I just goggled “Video of a kibble being made”
    & look what I found its awful….this is why pentobarbital was found in dog foods..

    “D & D Disposal
    West Coast Rendering
    Veron California April 2007
    Stop at 4.10mins, look bottom left look at the white bag, it starts moving the dog is alive..
    This is “why I hate” feeding a dry Kibble but Patch regurgites all wet foods 🙁

    Yeah the Holistic Select mustn’t smell too great, Patch wasnt really happy eating it..
    When I read posts on F/B I belong to a few IBD & skin allergies groups, a few dogs do well on Merrick LID formula’s…. take back the Holistic Select in 1 week & swap for a LID formula, go when a nice person is serving, normally the younger ones don’t care when I return food.. its the older ladies that ask questions.. You will find the right dog food for your boy hat helps stomach/bowel & skin, you just have to try a few different kibbles, look when Specials are on or when foods are reduced cause use by dates are close, I just paid 1/2 price for Wellness Simple Turkey & Potato, so I got 2 bags for the price of 1 bag, thats not bad & Patches allergies are doing heaps better….

    #128552

    In reply to: dog food questions

    joanne l
    Member

    Hi Susan, thanks for the info. I think Victor is a good food, but I don’t like the “blood meal” in the lamb and rice. First I just don’t like that ingredient and we don’t know what animal it comes from. I bought a small bag of Holistic Select lamb, but he HATES it. I just put a little in to use it up and he will eat it mixed with his other dry food. I was looking at Nutrisource lamb and rice or Merrick lamb LID or Natures Variety. If anyone has used these foods or has any comment on it I would appreciate it.

    #128533
    Ena L
    Member

    Hi! everybody I am new on this site, it is so hard to find a good food, for dogs, I have a Westie she is 8 yrs old, We done the blood test for food allergies, according to the Dermatologist specialist we started seem it is not accurate, before to the test we feed her boiled chicken and she start itching so much, her feet always so red, so we ask our regular vet and he suggested the blood test, which indicate that she is allergic to poultry mix, soy bean, green peas, oats, kelp, corn, duck.
    We feed her now, lean beef, with carrots and potatoes, she eats good for the first day or two and then afterwards it is a battle, we have to beg to eat the food, we had try dry food, don’t even touch it, I order some grain free food from The Honest Kitchen, she doesn’t like that either..
    So now after the special trip 3 hrs away 12-14-18 to the dermatologist specialist she give us a special homemade recipe with Venison, we will try this new recipe, she is been suffering with ears infections, red itchy and inflame paws, Dr. says she has Staff infection so now she is taking doxycycline and ketoconazole every 12 hrs to clear the staff infection.
    We hope this meds. help her and she gets better.
    If anyone have some suggestions I will appreciate it. Have nice day.

    #128465

    In reply to: Open Farms

    Eve F
    Member

    Patricia, when I recommended Open Farms, I should have said that I use only the Freeze Dried food. My dogs didn’t care much for the dry kibble but love the freeze dried.

    Eve

    #128463

    In reply to: Open Farms

    Patricia A
    Participant

    Open Farm dry was reviewed. I subscribe to Susan Thixton’s (Truth About Pet Food) 2019 list . Can’t get any better information what your feeding your dog then her. Among her VERY few approved is Open Farms freeze dried. Happy Primal was there also. I hope Dr. Mike reviews and approves for his 2019 Editors Choice List.

    #128457
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Jenifer,
    Join this group on facebook
    “Dogs with Inflammatory Bowel Disease IBD – Raw Feeding & Holistic Support”
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/292537937935806/?ref=direct

    What are her medications?
    Listen to her, as Meds & Food must be making her feel worse specially if its a steriod, Predisone made my boy worse, Metronidazole made him better & the Royal Canin Hypoallergenic wet & dry gave him BAD ACID REFLUX then Pancreatitis, I had an idiot vet wouldnt listen to me, when I told him the vet diet is making Patch worse, he’s up at 11pm swollowing gulping & growled at me, Patch has never growled at me, he was in pain. It kills your heart watching them suffer you feel soooo helpless..
    Is she on a ant acid reducer Zantac or Pepcid or an ant acid Blocker Omeprazole??

    Go to shop get a lean white meat, one she hasnt eaten before, Pork, Turkey, Whitefish also grab a few sweet potatoes, peel & cut up the Sweet Potato into about 1 spoon size pieces boil the sweet potatoes & cool then put pieces in those Zip lock sandwich bags, try & not let the cooked sweet potato touch each other but if a few pieces still touch its OK once frozen just hit the sanwich bag on the sink & the frozen sweet potatoes will separate..

    If you get Whitefish put in water & slowely cook, it will be ready before it boils so remove out of the water or steam fish, dont over cook the meat, with the lean pork my vet said buy pork meat & mince it yourself or cut the pork steak up small pieces & the same put in water & before the water boils the pieces of pork should be cooked, if you have a blender add the pork pieces & also add some sweet potato pieces blend all together.
    I give Patch 1-2 pieces of the cooked Sweet Potatoe all mashed up…
    or egg can she eat egg whisk a egg put in a non stick pan & make scramble egg or boil an egg & mash & add 1/2 sweet Potatoes, cause the sweet potato is sweet she will lick the sweet potato…
    Start with te Boiled Sweet Potato
    Did vet does Biospsies when they did Endoscope some vets are idiots & dont bother doing the Biopsies they think that they will see whats wrong & sometimes everything looks great but it isnt..

    Goats Milk get some & see will she drink Goats Milk, also Bone Broth is also very good to give her when she isnt eating & will help make her strong again, if she has stopped her meds then no point giving them with NO food this will make her feel worse..
    Join the F/B group heaps of people who have very sick dogs & 1 yr later have healthy dogs now..
    Did you ever see a Holistic Vet??
    Another thing is she having a weekly Vitamin B-12 injection?? this really helps increase appetite..

    #128427

    In reply to: dog food questions

    Susan
    Participant

    I tried Holistic Select Senior back 2014 then again 2016 I tried the Puppy/Adult Salmon & Sardine Grain Free formula Patches poos were good, skin was good but after 2 months he wasn’t really interested in it probably cause of the Fish causing acid reflux??…
    The Holistic Select Senior had grains a few years ago but Patches mouth licking & swollowing started again & poos were sloppy & yellow so I returned to pet shop probably cause of the Barley now Holistic Select Senior is Grain Free now & has Chickpeas, Peas, Lentils,…
    I prefer Canidae or Wellness Patch seemed to do better.
    I prefer meat 1st 2nd & 3rd ingredients less carbs, less reactions, less fiber, less problems for Patches IBD & skin…

    It will all depend on “your” dog, you have to take the plunge, I did the same after I found out Patch has IBD, I was stressing out what foods too feed him cause I didnt know 100% what he was sensitive too 🙁
    For 1 yr back 2013 Patch was on a Vet Diet Eukanuba Intestinal his poos were small & OK but he had bad yeasty itchy smelly skin, paws & itchy bum probably from the grains & beet pulp?? the vet said we’ll let his bowel heal first then deal with his skin problems, I was soooooo scared to try another dog food, then vet said do you want to try Vet diet Eukanuba Fish & Potato FP formula, a few of my IBD dog patients who have skin problems do really well on teh Eukanuba FP but Patch had bad diarhea & all I had introduced was about 20 kibbles to 1 cup of Eukanuba Intesinal kibble the first day he seemed OK, 2nd day OK, I was still only giving 20 new dry FP kibbles mixed with his Intestinal kibble, then on the 3rd day he had BAD diarhea water as soon as he ate he had to poo badly, Ive never seen him this bad, so took back the big bag of Eukanuba FP to vet practice he was put back on Metronidazole cause after going back on his Eukanuba Intestinal the diarrhea would stop, we had to fast him for 48hrs & was put on Royal Canine Intestinal wet can food, his vet said it was probably the potatoes so for 2 years I was SSSSSSOOOOOOO scared to try a grain free kibble that had Potatoes but now I’ve realised it was probably bad Fish meal in the Eukanuba FP formula not the potatoes unless they were green & rotten?…

    Look for a dry kibble that doesnt have tooo many ingredients has at least 2-3 meat proteins as 1st 2nd & 3rd ingredients as protein meat is easier to digest, a dogs digestive tract is short, made to digest meat diet..

    Have you looked at “Victor” Select range the Lamb Meal & Brown Rice formula or I like the Chicken Meal Brown Rice with Lamb Meal formula,
    it has Lamb Meal Patch would do really well on the Victor Select Formula’s they have no barley, the Victor formula also have Montmorillonite clay, Id find a store that sells Victor & give the Chicken Meal Brown Rice & Lamb meal a go or the Lamb Meal & Brown Rice these are the ingredients to the Select Chicken Meal formula

    Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Grain Brown Rice, Whole Grain Millet, Lamb Meal, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed Tocopherols), Grain Sorghum, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Flax Seed (source of Omega 3 Fatty Acid), Feeding Oat Meal, Yeast Culture, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Kelp, Montmorillonite,

    https://victorpetfood.com/products/lamb-meal-brown-rice-formula

    #128426
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi
    Yeast Dermatitis-
    food sensitivies only cause Yeasty smelly skin ears & paws when your dog is sensitive to certain ingredients.. So best to do elimination diet, my rissoles below is how I did 1 of Patches elimination diets.
    You start with a meat protein she hasnt eaten before or not often & 1 carb.
    I use Sweet Potatoes & Potato.. My boy is good with Potato for his IBD.

    also Sweet Potato is better then rice, boil rice ferments in the stomach, boiled Sweet potato is excellent for senstive stomach & bowel.
    I peel the sweet potato cut up into small pieces about the size of a spoon boil cool then put in those sandwich zip lock plastic bags & freeze then as you need a few sweet potato pieces take them out of freezer & thaw in 15mins & add to rissoles or add with turkey what ever meat you are feding etc or just give 1 piece of sweet potato as a treat..

    Follow “Judy Morgan DVM” on her Facebook page..

    * Here’s Judy Morgan Pup Loaf, she has a few rescipes.

    * Here’s Judys feding a pup with Pancreatitis
    https://www.drjudymorgan.com/feeding-pets-with-pancreatitis/

    I changed the Pup Loaf around a bit & I make my Rissole Balls in oven so fat drains out & boil Sweet Potato for my boy who has IBD..

    I buy 1kg =2lbs of lean pork mince or lean 5 star lean beef mince I rotate between the 2 meats also can try Turkey lean mince aswell.
    I add 1 whisked egg, 1 teaspoon chopped parsley, some chopped up broccoli heads about 1/3 to 1/2 a cup, I peel & grate 1 carrot, then I mix all together & make into 1/2 a cup for size you can make smaller size rissole balls if you want & put them all on a foiled lined baking tray & bake in oven for 15mins.
    then take the rissoles out of oven & drain any water/fat, turn over all the Rissole balls & cook till ready, about another 15mins, do not over cook meat as it goes like leather & be tuff…Cool then I freeze them in sections.
    Baking in oven reduces fat & you can drain…
    I also peel & boil Sweet Potato Pieces boil cool & freeze. Sweet Potato freezes very well & thaws good. Take out the day before what you need & put in fridge for next day..then I add 1 rissole cut it up or put in a blender & add 1/3 cup sweet potatoes & mix all together also add 2 spoons of tin salmon in olive oil or spring water drain the water or olive oil put in container. Make sure you read the salt % get lower salt %
    you can feed Salmon & Sweet Potato as a small meal but not as a perment meal as you need to balance diet, unless you’re doing an elimination diet, my vet said its OK to not balance meal 1-2 months..
    Or add 1 krill oil capsule to the 1 breakfast meal.. Krill Oil Capsules are good for people who have sensitive stomachs & dont do too well on Fish Oil capsules..

    I add “NAS Digestavite Plus Powder” 1/4 teaspoon to 1 of the meal a day to balance the diet.. just make sure diet is balanced over the week..
    Look at “Balance It”
    You can also add 1 crushed dry egg shell a day to 1 of the meals for calcium also add Glucosamine & Chondroiton tablet daily..
    you’ll have to google dose for your size dog..

    #128409
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Justin,
    Feed a large Breed Puppy formula as they are formulated for growing large breed puppies bones, you dont want their bones growing too quickly..

    “Dog Food Advisor” has a section on Large Breed Puppies..
    whats best to feed, a good read.. /best-dog-foods/best-large-breed-puppy-food/

    I like “Wellness” dog foods
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/core-puppy-large-breed-puppy

    & “Canidae” dog foods.
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-all-life-stages-large-breed-turkey-meal-brown-rice-dry-formula

    Wellness has been around over 100yrs so I’d say they’d know what they are doing when it comes to dogs & cats..
    Make sure you add fresh meaty bone & fresh ingredients aswell to his meal so he gets a variety of foods & use to eating a few different foods….. this is when dogs end up with food sensitivities cause when they were pups they only ate the 1 dry food & never had a variety of foods, this strengthens their immune system (Stomach) & gets them use to different ingredients….

    #128407
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Sanne,
    I would give “Farmina Ancestral Grain” a try it’s made in Italy, it looks like a very good quality dog food, then I’d try “Victor Select” I think the Victor Select Chicken looked really good when I was looking.
    I also feed “Canidae Pure Meadow” Senior formula it has all the supplements for aging dogs joints/bones, skin & coat, it’s high Omega 3 fatty acids & Glucosamine..
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-meadow-dry-formula

    Rotate between a few different brands thats what I do, so if something is wrong with 1 brand then my dog isnt eating it for too long to have any bad side effects..
    Your English is good

    #128393
    Saiah J
    Member

    Hi Christina!
    I noticed you haven’t received a reply to this post yet.
    I have a Pug too! His name is Jeff. He also has a very sensitive stomach. So much so, that I started feeding him nothing but homemade food. So I knew exactly what he was eating. It’s difficult to know what’s actually inside store bought dog food. So many preservatives, additives and minimal nutrition.
    We tried 3 different kinds of dry dog food. Ranging from cheap to expensive. We also tried various kinds of wet food. He would always end up with an upset stomach.
    Since I started feeding him this diet, he has been so much happier. I also noticed his irritated skin has calmed down a lot.

    This recipe makes about 15 meals. (1 metric cup per meal) Which is a normal portion size for a Pug.
    I will list the ingredients and method below 🙂

    Ingredients:
    3 cups brown rice
    1 cup peas
    2 large sweet potatoes (diced)
    2 large carrots (diced)
    1 large Zucchini (diced or shredded)
    Green beans (finely chopped)
    Lastly, a meat of your choice. I use chicken breast (1.5 lbs) diced. You can use frozen or fresh. I buy my chicken breast in large frozen bags for convenience.

    Method:
    1. Cook the brown rice
    2. boil peas, sweet potato, carrot and green beans. You can add zucchini now, or later. Whichever you prefer. I usually just throw all the veggies into the same pot and boil until cooked.
    3. cook chicken in fry pan
    Add everything together and mix thoroughly. Divide into ziplock bags and freeze / defrost at your convenience.

    Hope you find this helpful!

    #128374
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Fanette,
    it will all depend on your dog what agrees with him????
    What happens when he ate your cooked food cause wet can food is very similar??

    My Patch doesn’t do well on wet can foods raw foods & cooked meals they come back up into mouth, he regurgatates them, I was feeding him a really good Dehydrated Raw food all good quality free range organic ingredients, it smells beautiful like a chicken soup but he got his BAD acid reflux back & his very sore throat again 🙁
    We (Holistic Vet) who formulated “Frontier Pets” raw said try not adding the water to the dehydrated balls & feed the balls like a dry kibble but he wasn’t drinking water,when he gets his BAD acid reflux he will not drink any water it must make something worse.. & cause its dehydrated food he needs the water….

    Did you end up joining the face book group called,
    “Dogs with Inflammatory Bowel Disease IBD – Raw Feeding & Holistic Support”
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/292537937935806/

    People who have IBD dogs will probably be able to help you more..

    I liked the first dry kibbles “Canireo dry food” they look very good for a dry kibble & very low in Starch… The Herzens Hund Horse & Pumkin looks good aswell.

    Patch has to eat a dry food these would work for my Patch. You need to try & see which ones agree with Furby???

    When I started introducing the Frontier Pets Dehydrated Raw the Holistic Vet said to start introducing at lunch time only still feed normal food for Breafast & Dinner & introduce new food at lunch time if you can, very small meal & see how Furby does, then increase to more & more…
    The only thing with the wet can foods they are high in organ meats. Organ meats like Liver can cause Diarrhea…

    #128373
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Look at

    *Canidae Grain Free PURE Ancestral Red Meat Formula
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-ancestral-raw-coated-dry-red-meat-formula-with-lamb-goat-wild-boar/

    * Earthborn Holistics – grain free
    https://www.earthbornholisticpetfood.com/dog-food-formulas

    * Wellness Core

    It’s ashame you can’t have Chicken are you 100% sure Dog cant eat chicken done proper elimination diet?..
    I feed “Wellness Core Large Breed” Adult formula.
    Its high in protein-38.14%’max, Fiber-5.99%max
    scroll down to “Nutrient Profiles” then click on “Get The PDF” it shows the proper % of Protein, Fat, Fiber, Carbs etc look at “Dry Matter Basis”
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/core-large-breed-large-breed

    #128370
    Rhianna H
    Member

    I am in search of a dog food that it seems may not exist. What I need is a food that is higher in protein (at least 32% but would prefer upwards of 36%), low in carbohydrates (must be less than 30% but the lower the better), would appreciate a decent fiber content (maybe around 5-6%?) which doesn’t seem to difficult to find. However, where I am stuck is that it also needs to be completely chicken free, fish free and grain free. I’d like to stay away from Turkey if possibly but will give it a go if it meets all the other requirements. Dry foods are prefered since this is a larger dog and I just can’t afford dehydrated/freeze dried/canned/raw foods.

    Hope someone has ideas because I’m about to pull out my hair!

    #128367
    Fanette R
    Member

    Hello,

    My dog has been diagnosed from IBD for over a year now, and from Pancreatitis for almost 2 years. His diet has been manageable before his IBD but since his IBD I have been trying different kind of food, and even though he is doing so much better than he was a year ago, I know that his current diet isn’t perfect still.

    I’ve tried homemade food, my vet and holistic vet are all about raw and homecooked food, but with Furby’s situation and after trying a several time, that this isn’t working for him at the moment. He cannot have too much carbs, because of his pancreatitis current situation, or too much starched veggies, and he needs low fat meats or fish. So basically, he would need a green veggie / low fat meat diet, which would result in so much quantity for him to eat each day so he can have enough calories out of it. We’ve tried, and tried again, giving him 7-8 meals a day to see if this would help, but it doesn’t. His stomach cannot take that amount of food for now.
    So, even my vets that are pro raw and homecooked diet, told me that we should look into dog food at the moment, and maybe try to go back to homecooked or even raw later on.
    So first of all, please don’t message me to say that yes, he needs a homecooked or raw diet, because trust me I’ve tried everything, for months.

    I’m in France so I don’t have the same products as people who are based in the US, so I made a lot of researches to find food that seems pretty good quality, and that are low fat, grain-free and with only a tiny bit, or not at all, starches.
    Now, I’m wondering if I can write the composition and info right so you guys tell me your thoughts about it ?

    Brand : Terra Cannis
    Dry food :
    Canireo is the first dry food in the specialist retail trade made from 100% certified food-grade ingredients, based on pure fresh meat, with 64% muscle meat and grain-free. This unique quality distinguishes it from all other dry pet foods.

    We absolutely do not use meat-, bone-, fish- or feather flour. The flours typically used for dry food are usually made of “category 3 material” (waste material that is not approved for human consumption) and are in no way comparable with food-grade ingredients in terms of quality. Another aspect that makes Canireo stand out is that it is made exclusively with fresh meat – 64% fresh muscle meat and 1% fresh liver. Furthermore, it is not cold pressed or extruded, but naturally baked until crisp. All the aspects that we have this far considered critical for dry food are thus optimised.

    The result is a natural, crispy baked dry food of uncompromising quality. The 100% food-grade ingredients, the exclusive use of fresh meat, the high muscle meat content of 64%, and the valuable coconut flour make Canireo unique. Not using grains, and instead using plenty of healthy vegetables, fruit, and herbs, as well as all-natural nutritional supplements, make Canireo a natural dry food that is truly appropriate for the species.
    Link to the product : https://www.terracanis.co.uk/canireo-trockenfutter-wild.html

    Product : Canireo dry food, game
    Composition
    Fresh venison muscle meat (64%), potato flakes* (15%), coconut flour (5%), apple* (2%), brewer’s yeast*, parsnip* (1.67%), carrots* (1.52%), courgette* (1.44%), celery* (1.2%), fresh venison liver (1%), powdered eggshell (1%), pumpkin* (0.8%), linseed, apricots* (0.5%), fenugreek (0.4%), parsley root* (0.4%), rapeseed flour, mineral earth, spinach (0.16%), seaweed*, dandelion* (0.1%), rose hip* (0.1%), chamomile* (0.1%), rosemary*, thyme*
    *dried

    Analytic Constituents
    Protein: 29.4%, fat content: 12.5%, crude fibre: 2.8%, crude ash: 5.1%, moisture: 3.7%
    MJ/kg: 15.5

    2nd Product : Canireo dry food, chicken
    Composition
    Fresh chicken muscle meat (64%), potato flakes* (15%), coconut flour (5%), apricots* (2%), carrots* (1.5%), courgette* (1.4%), celery* (1.2%), fresh poultry liver (1%), brewer’s yeast (1%), linseeds (1%), apple* (0.9%), pumpkin* (0.8%), parsnip* (0.8%), powdered eggshell (0.7%), beetroot* (0.5%), mineral earth (0.5%), parsley root* (0.4%), fenugreek (0.4 %), rapeseed flour (0.4%), dandelion* (0.3%), rose hip* (0.3%), chamomile* (0.2%), chokeberries* (0.2%), spinach (0.2%), seaweed* (0.1%), rosemary* (0.1%), thyme* (0.1%)
    *dried

    Analytic Constituents
    Protein: 29.2%, fat content: 12%, crude fibre: 2.4%, crude ash: 4.9%, moisture: 4.7%
    MJ/kg: 15.4
    Link to the product : https://www.terracanis.co.uk/canireo-trockenfutter-huhn.html
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    2nd Brand : Herzens Hund
    Product : Organic Sheep meat & Organic Zucchini (wet food)
    This complete feed for dogs “Bio Sheep meat & Bio Zucchinic” consists only of natural organic ingredients. It is consistently produced without binding substance, without synthetic vitamins, flavour intensifiers and without any kind of additives. In such a way, fruits and vegetables used in are not contaminated with pesticides and the meat comes from a species-appropriate attitude.

    Apricot consist of beta-carotin, which turns into Vitamin A in organism. Vitamin A is an important nutritive substance for eyes. Apricots are rich in fiber, which stimulate bowels work and improve toxins removing.
    INGREDIENTS
    Organic sheep (72%)Organic zucchini (17%)Organic buckwheat (4%)Organic salad (3%)Organic apple (2%)Organic linseed oil (1%)Organic apricot (1%)
    ADDITIVES
    Phosphorus (1271 mg/kg)Calcium (169 mg/kg)
    ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS
    Moisture : 84.3%, Crude protein : 7.4%, Crude fiber : 1.3%, Crude ash : 0.8%
    Crude fat 0.7%

    2nd Product : Horse meat & Organic Pumpkin
    INGREDIENTS
    Horse (70%)Organic amaranth (16%)Organic pumpkin (13%)Organic evening primrose oil (1%)
    ADDITIVES
    Phosphorus (1443 mg/kg)Calcium (786 mg/kg)
    ANALYTICAL CONSTITUENTS
    Moisture : 73.3%, Crude protein7.5%, Crude fat : 2.4%, Crude fiber : 1.1%
    Crude ash 1%

    —————————————-

    Herrmann’s Dog Food :
    Product : Venison with Apple & Amaranth
    Composition: 50 % deer (60 % muscle meat, 25 % heart, 10 % lung, 5 % liver), courgette*, 8 % apple*, 6 % amaranth*, linseed oil*, eggshell powder* – *organic – 50 % from organic ingredients
    Analytical Constituents : moisture: 76.36 %, crude protein: 12.1 %, crude fat: 4.0 %, crude fiber: 1.0 %, crude ash: 1.2 %

    2nd Product : Venison with Sweet Potato
    Composition:
    50% vension (60% muscle meat, 25% heart, 10% lung and 5% liver), 25% sweet potato*
    fruits* (berry-mix), linseed oil* *-organic – 50% from organic
    Analytical Constituents : crude protein 8,40% crude fat 2,80% crude fiber 1,60% crude ash 1,30% moisture 78,90%

    3rd Product : Venison with pumpkin, quinoa and cranberry
    Composition:
    50% deer (60% muscle meat, 25% heart, 10% lung and 5% liver), 12% pumpkin*, 8% quinoa*, fruits* (berry-mix), eggshell powder*, *-organic, 50% organic
    Analytical Constituents :
    Moisture : 77.77%, Crude protein : 12.46%, Crude fat : 2.8%, Crude fiber : 1.03%
    Crude ash : 0.87%, Calcium : 0.03%, Phosphorus : 0.03%

    ———————————————–

    My holistic vet looked at all of them and the one that seems the best to her was the one from Herrmann’s : Venaison, Apple & Amaranth.
    But after being back home from my appointment I got quite confused and I wanted to talk to you guys about it. She said that the other ones weren’t good enough especially because the amount of protein wasn’t high enough. She told me that to her it should be at least 10% of protein on the wet matter basis for wet food. But if I calculate correctly dry matter basis, a product like the one from Herzens Hund (Sheep & Zucchino), has 7.4% of crude protein on a wet matter basis but has around 47% of protein on dry matter basis (if I do the calculation right), which should be a good amount right ?
    So I’m quite confused about that;

    She doesn’t know those brands so it’s tricky for her. I wanted to try the brand that she does know, which is an amazing local company that does amazing products, but their fat content for their wet food are around 6,4% on wet matter basis, and I made the calculation from the moisture and it’s about 27% of fat on dry matter basis which seems way too much for my dog. But my vet said that in those formulas there were no starch, no grain, so nothing that usually irritate my dog’s pancreas. So in this case the fat content could be higher and find for Furby. Which kind of make sense, maybe the reason why it has to be so low fat usually for dogs with pancreatitis is because most of those products are full of starch. But I still wanted to talk to you guys about it before making any changes.

    Have a great day and so sorry about that huge message!
    Fanette

    #128303
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Bernice.

    “Bilious Vomiting Syndrome in Dogs, aka “Hunger Pukes”

    How did your Dr. Hans Gelens diagnose Freddy with bilious vomiting syndrome?
    Did Freedy have Biopsies thru a Endoscope?

    You wrote
    “lip-smacking, drooling, yawning, licking are classic signs of nausea in dogs”

    Lip Smacking, licking paws, blankets, floors, grinding teeth, yarning-(stress), swollowing gulping are classic signs of “acid reflux”, my vet said she see’s at least 1-2 dogs a week who are suffering with acid reflux, it’s more common then we think with dogs,
    this is why Freddy has been put on Omeprazole (Prilosec) an acid blocker, it’s a PPI (Proton Pump Inhibitor)… Why didn’t the vet put him on a lower class of acid reducer drugs histamine-2 (H2) blockers either Zantac (Rantidine) or Pepcid (Famotidine) instead of a PPI??

    A diet change would be good idea once Freddy is doing well again & is stable.
    He was eating Royal Canin Gastro Low-Fat which seemed to keep his symptoms to a once or twice a year event. “Until this year”. Diet may have contributed to his Bilious Vomiting Syndrome??
    Look at eating fresh whole foods, a lean balanced diet, not over processed dry kibble/wet can dog food. Look at feeding diet that’s low in carbs, low fiber especially with Pancreatitis NO sugar in diet, stay away from foods that bring on acid reflux..

    You can NOT just stop taken a PPI once you have been taken it more then 14-20 days, a PPI must be slowly reduced & a lower class of drugs called histamine-2 (H2) blockers either Zantac (Rantidine) or Pepcid (Famotidine) are given for 2-3 weeks after the PPI has been stopped but first reduced & give PPI every 2nd day then when you’ve stopped then you give either Zantac or Pepcid 30mins before a meal…
    Zantac & Pepcid work differently they dont work like a PPI works (Omeprazole or Pantoprazole)… A PPI is better but you have to work out do you want Freddy on a PPI now for the rest of his life??. if you have tried Zantac & Pepcid & they didn’t work then yes give PPI & diet change, vet diets are very high in Omega oils which is a good thing BUT some dogs who have Pancreactitis, IBD can’t handle high fish Oil, Coconut Oil etc & can get acid reflux my boy is one of those dogs, when eats a vet diet he get his bad acid reflux & yeasty itchy skin due to food sensitivities, I didnt know Fish/Salmon Oils & Coconut Oils could cause acid reflux until I seen Dr Judy Morgan talking about her 18yr old Cavalier charles, he has Pancreatitis & every month he kept having a Pancreas flare so she stoped adding all his supplements & slowly added them back weekly 1 at a time & it was the fish oil causing his monthly pancreas flare….
    Follow Dr Judy Morgan DVM on her f/b page also look at her “Videos” she has a really good “Pancreatitis Diet” you make in a Crock pot & add The Honest Kitchen Base
    https://www.facebook.com/JudyMorganDVM/

    My Patch has been on Omeprazole 2 yrs then he went down hill again this time last year he’s 10yrs old, he had another Endoscope & Biospy done in January 2018 to see why he’s got really his bad acid reflux again & he was already taken a PPI so he shouldnt be getting really bad acid reflux but he was, I did diet change but he didnt get better, so we did Endoscope + Biopsies the vet said as he was looking thru camera his wind pipe was inflammed & red, so was his Esophagus, he has lower esophageal sphincter (LES) his flap doesnt close properly & his acid wash back up his esophagus into throat mouth then went down into his wind pipe, por thing this would be very painful… He also suffers with Helicobacter living in his stomach walls, staying on a PPI like Omeprazole or Pantopazole is suppose to help stop the Helicobacter living & thriving in the stomach wall, I wonder if this is what Freedy has?? if after 6months -12months & Freedy goes down hill again try a diet change a lean cooked diet & ask vet can he please do an Endoscope + Biopsies, the Biopsies are a must as they will give vet some answers & the only way to know if the Helicobacter has taken over his stomach, all dogs have Helicobacter but when their immune system is compromised the Helicobacter takes too much bad bacteria, making you feel very unwell, stomach pain, nausea, bad acid reflux & feeling hungry all the time & weight loss..
    I asked Patches vet can I PLEASE change his PPI from 20mg Omeprazole to 20mg Pantoprazole, I also take Pantoprazole it seems to work better for people who have GERDS & suffer with bad reflux…
    PPI are best given of a morning not night unless he’s taking a PPI twice a day, I wouldnt recommend taking a PPI twice a day for a dog, best to start off on a lower dose, 1 x 20mg tablet take of a morning as soon as he gets up I give Patch his 20mg Pantoprazole tablet & I have a 20ml syringe water so I know the tablet has gone down his throat, you can NOT chew PPI tablets, they are specially coated tablets so they digest past the stomach so dont let Freddy chew his Omeprazole if you can this is why best not to give with food as they chew food, just open his mouth & put tablet on back of his tongue & put down throat, then put the syringe side of his mouth back teeth & slowley squirt water so he swollows tablet & make sure he doesnt spit tablet back out, my Patch was sptting back out after I walked away & I was finding his tablet, cheecky bugger…

    My boy has IBD he eats 5 smaller meals a day he eats –
    First meal after he has taken his PPI around 6.30-7am then another small meal around 9am, Lunch- 12pm a cooked meal or freezed dried raw dehydrated meal about 1/3 a cup, 5pm-Dinner meal is bigger under 1 cup & 7.30pm small 1/4 a cup & last meal for the night wee & then he goes to bed & I wake him for 2 wee breaks & he gets a Quick-Eze 1/2 a Rapid Chew after his last wee around 10.30-11pm & I always offer him water when Patch wakes up on my bed, he is very weird about drinking water when he has his acid reflux, so Im always offering him fresh water to wash down any acid…
    I’ve been freezing Bone Broth in ice cube trays & take out 1-2 ice cubes to thaw & Patch drinks it & loves the Bone Broth, I think The Honest kitchen has a Bone Broth you can buy, there’d be a few places taht have teh Bone Broth.

    I hope Freedy recovery continues, but if he has a set back then look into diet change, there’s healthier alternatives for these sick dogs & cats, after seeing sooo many dogs get better on a healthier diet, I really think once dog is stable & has been doing really well start looking into changing dogs diet, fresh lean meats, fresh veggies & fruits, Kefir given or a probiotic best to give on empty stomach or inbetween meals when Hydrochloric acids in stomach are low, make sure diet is balanced properly, there’s a few good foods that are dehydrated & aren’t over processed & over cooked till all ingredients are all brown or black.

    #128272
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi,

    If you need any info email or ring the Pet Food Companies they will be able to answer all your questions.
    Try & look for dry foods that don’t have tooooo many ingredients,the Canidae ALS Turkey Meal & Brown Rice has Limied ingredients, so less ingredients he could react too.

    Have a look at

    “Canidae ALS Turkey Meal & Brown Rice Puppies”
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-all-life-stages-large-breed-turkey-meal-brown-rice-dry-formula

    “Canidae ALS Lamb Meal & Rice Puppies”
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-all-life-stages-lamb-meal-rice-dry-formula

    “Canidae Pure Sea Salmon or Pure Wild Boar” only have about 5-7 ingredients are good formula’s for dogs with food sensitivities, email ask are these formula’s formulated for growing large breed puppies?? or could be feed later on when your boy is an adult dog.
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-sea-dry-formula

    “Wellness Core” Lamb & Lamb Meal
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/core-lamb-lamb

    “Wellness Simple”
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/simple-limited-ingredient-turkey-potato-recipe

    Again contact the Pet food company, ask what formula’s do that have that are Chicken free & formulated for Large Breed Puppies.

    You have to be careful with some of these Limited Ingredient dog foods & all dog foods as some do not have the proper meats in them.

    UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine’s latest study: Limited Ingredient/Allergy Diets may not work for your pet because of this problem!
    Scroll dow to the results.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/vms3.125?fbclid=IwAR3JAeJouOK1TEOHlEKTRONZPp7FghmqdBaR561HJbc71J6fKucG5ncT9d8
    Go onto Rodney Habibs f/b page – https://www.facebook.com/rodneyhabib
    scroll down a bit & look for “The False Hope of Limited Ingredient & Allergy diets” video they tested Natural Balance LID Bison & Sweet Potato formula & it had Beef, Pork, Horse, Goat, Lamb in it & no Bison?

    If you have problems with the new kibble you buy you’re probably better off feeding a Vet Diet, “Royal Canine” Select Protein range, these vet diet will have the proper meats & formulated for growing large Breed puppies cantact Royal Canine you can talk to Nutritionist..

    The only way to know 100% what ingredients your dog is sensitive too, is do a food elimination diet or use a Hypoallergenic vet diet then introduce 1 new food every 6 weeks to see if he reacts, my boy reacts within 20mins with raw or cooked chicken..but he doesn’t react when the chicken is in a kibble, probably cause the dry kibble has had the life cooked out of it & his immune system doesn’t recognize the protein source.

    #128095
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Deborah,

    What are you feeding your fussiest 2.5 y/o Traditional yorkie & what are you feding your
    new 5 month old Beiwer terrier..

    Have you looked at changing both their foods so they can eat the same food??
    Look at “all life stages” dehydrated Raw food…

    “CaniSource Grand Cru All Life Stages Dehydrated Raw” Dry Dog Food.

    “Buckley Liberty Freeze-Dried Dry Dog Food”

    “BIXBI” Rawbble Dry Dog Food

    “Canidae” Grain Free PURE Ancestral Raw Coated Dry Dog Food

    “Ziwi Peak” air Dried Raw

    “Canidae” Grain Free PURE Petite® Small Breed Raw Coated Dry Formula with Real Salmon for Adults
    and
    “Canidae” Grain Free PURE Petite® Small Breed Raw Coated Dry Formula with Real Salmon for Puppies has 1% more fat, both formula’s have identical Ingredients & Guaranteed Analysis….

    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-petite-raw-coated-dry-formula-with-real-salmon
    The puppy formula’s is higher in fat so probably more appealing..

    Look for new foods they both can eat & rotate their foods so they dont eat the same food 24/7 & get bored…..
    Fresh is best..

    #128085
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ana,

    No wet can isnt safer then kibble…
    Look at Dehydrated Raw instead of dry kibble & wet can foods, Dehydrated Raw isnt raw, raw like you think when you read the word raw, Dehydrated raw is more like frozen hard raw but it isnt, but its dry like dry kibble but hasnt been over processed & cooked & cooked like kibble…
    My boy who has IBD he does really well on an Australian made “Frontier Pets” Free Range Dehydrated Raw balls, I just add a little warm water he loves it for lunch, start feeding 1 of your dog meal a dehydrated raw food & let them decide which is best…
    Offer the kibble in a bowl & in another bowl some dehydrated raw..
    I think dehydrated is best if you want to feed something like kibble..
    Honest Kitchen would be better then buying the wet can foods in pet shops & super markets, alot of wet can foods aren’t balanced properly, well the cat wet can foods aren’t & they’re made by the big 3 pet food companies..
    Here’s the proof.
    A study was done in Australia by “Sydney University junk pet-food research investigated”

    8 out of the 20 pet foods that were tested 8 did not meet nutritional standards, the University will not release names now cause Hills + Royal Canine donates heaps of money to the University & the researchers got a bit scared they wont get funds…..

    When you cook for yourself & your family you know what your eating & have watched it cook, when you go & get take away or eat in resturant you dont know if some dropped the food on the floor or they just went to toilet never washed hands, or had a smoke etc this is the same when we feed our pets kibble & wet can foods but worse…
    Wet can & Dry Kibble are the lowest of quality when it comes to pet foods, they’re quick & easy, then you start getting the better pet foods Air Dired, Dehydrated Raw they also make wet can foods that are good aswell..

    These brands are good..
    The bottom 3 brands have come 1st, 2nd, 3rd, when tested for Toxins, Heavy Metals & Contaminates…
    The 2 top Brands weren’t tested probably cause they’re made in New Zealand.

    “Ziwi Peak” – wet can & Air Dried Raw,
    send Ziwi Peak email ask for some samples, just say you have fussy dogs.

    “K-9 Natural” – wet can raw & freeze dried & frozen raw in freezer & treats.
    K-9 Natural Green Lipped Mussels are really good + Healthy to give as a treat daily.

    “Buckley Liberty” Freeze-Dried Dry Dog Food

    “CaniSource Grand Cru” All Life Stages Dehydrated Raw Dry Dog Food

    “BIXBI” Rawbble Freeze-Dried Dry Dog Food

    #128068
    aimee
    Participant

    Spy car,
    Again with the grandstanding and no citations. You made the statement you should provide the citation. When something in published in a peer reviewed journal the reader isn’t told to use Google to find article to support what they are saying. You are the author of your statements and you need to provide the citations. Besides I need to know I’m reading what you are reading.

    After the field trials go checkout all those obese crippled greyhounds eating a 42% energy from carb diet 😉

    “These studies concluded that a dry food based diet, which contained 42% of the energy from carbohydrates, 33% from fat and 24% from protein, provided the best dietary
    balance to optimise speed and performance over a standard 500 metre race distance. However, greyhounds on this diet were slightly heavier in body weight compared to greyhounds fed a diet containing higher protein and fat, with a lower content of carbohydrate. This difference in body weight was attributed to a greater muscle bulk in greyhounds fed on the medium protein diet.9”.

    Interesting stuff!

    replace the word dot with a (.)

    http://www.greyhound-data dot com/dir/806/Feeding_a_Racing_Greyhound.pdf

    #128035
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi,
    How many pounds should Minnie be when she is fully grown, what breed is she??
    My boy is an English Staffordshire Bull Terrier he is 18kgs = 40lbs, I only feed him around 2 & 1/2 cups when its his “Wellness Core” Large Breed Adult formula – 346Kcals per cup kibble a day + cooked lunch + 1-2 Freeze dried Mussels or when he eats “Canidae Pure Wild” 454Kcals per cup I feed 1 & 1/2 cups kibble a day + cooked lunch or “Canidae Pure Meadow” – 409Kcals per cup, he gets around 1 & 1/2 – 2 cups kibble a day + something different for lunch + Green Lipped Mussels 1-2 a day.

    Read the Kcals per cupthe kibble formula you’re feeding it’s probably on bag of kibble or online on the 4Health site or email 4Health for any information & work out how many Kcals a day she should be eating & add cooked food on top, I know Patch should be eating around 1000Kcals a day but I feed a bit under now cause he’s a senior & yes add fresh ingredents to her kibble or separate as a meal, this will help put on weight..
    kibble swells up in the stomach makes you feel fuller so best to feed 3-4 smaller meals a day 7am, 12pm, 5pm 8pm so if you have a large breed dog best to feed a large breed kibble, they are formulated for large breed puppy or Adult large dog intestinal tract, (Bloat)
    My dog has IBD & does really well on a large breed kibble, the Kcals are lower 346kcals, the higher the Kcals the more dense is the kibble & they dont need to eat as much kibble…

    So maybe look for a higher Kcal per cup kibble? “Canidae” is higher in Kcals over 400Kcals so she only needs about 3-4 cups a day depending on formula?.
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products

    The “Canidae All Life Stages Multi-protein” Formula is 468Kcals per cup your dog would only need 2-4 cups a day when a Puppy then when she’s a Adult she’s needs less around 2 cups per day depending on her breed??
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-all-life-stages-dry-formula/

    Cook – boiled potato or boil sweet potato pieces cool then freeze Sweet Potato freezes really well & thaws good & quickly or I put in micro wave 15sec to thaw, today for lunch I feed Patch 2 pieces of Sweet Potato mixed/mashed with cooked 2 scrambled eggs, I cooked egg in a non stick frying pan, I buy tin Salmon in spring water drain the water & add sweet potato, I feed 4-5 smaller meals a day you can buy a kibble machine that lets out the kibble amount you want thru the day, I give 1/2 a cup at certain times thru the day…
    Raw meaty bone would be excellent & gives her something to do all day chewing on a meaty bone from a butcher…
    Here’s 2 different Canine Calculator links it gives you a ruff idea how much dry kibble you should be feeding..

    https://petsci.co.uk/canine-calorie-calculator/ or

    http://www.german-shepherd-lore.com/dog-food-calculator.html

    #127939
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Christine,

    I would stay away from all dog fish dry/wet foods they have been found to be High in Heavy Metals, Toxins & Contaminates..
    The Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Stomach Salmon formula has been on the 1 star high in toxins/heavy metals list. The company list changes every 3 months when they re test 299 most popular Dog & Cat Wet, Dry & Treat foods..
    Google dog foods Contaminates, Heavy Metals, Im not allow to post the link…

    Can you feed him a home made fresh raw or cooked balance diet ? this will be healthier diet then dry kibble… or start adding fresh whole foods to his kibble & reduce his kibble amount, buy tin Sarines in Spring water drain water & add 1/4 of a can to 1 meal a day, also Salmon drain water add 2 spoons to his meal, broccolli, peel/de seed apple, mussels, egg, fresh whole foods, left over after you’ve cooked dinner foods will be healthier then the dry kibble, I buy the Freeze Dried Mussels & give 1-2 mussels a day as a treat depends how big the mussels are you can also buy frozen mussels…

    Pitbulls Staffys are known to suffer with stomach problems so keep that in mind with his poo eating..
    He might be suffering with stomach problems if not, then after eating his brothers poo this isnt healthy.
    My Staffy a rescue has IBD & when I first got him he was eating poo,
    He needed to fix his gut bacteria get it healthy again, I put him on a dog probiotic powder add 10-15ml water with the recommend amount of probiotic powder, swirl water around in bowl to dissolve the probiotic give in morning on empty stomach as a treat…or buy Kefir give as a drink in the morning for breakfast, Bone Broth it’s very healthy for the gut aswell.

    I do no give my Staffy any Heartworm meds, my Boxer was given the yearly heartworm injection, after 1 of her injections when she was 7yrs old her gums went white she fainted & became very unwell & had to be rushed back to the vets, so the next time the vet reduced the heartworm dose, then I stopped giving them to her after I learnt she had cancer, she had Mast Cell cancer so keep an eye out for any weird type worts, lumps, skin tags etc especially around back legs.
    I don’t live in a high heartworm area there hasn’t been any cases now over 30yrs I asked my vet the other month cause Patch was getting his wierd wort/skin tags all removed & the vet wasn’t concerned about Patch not being heartwormed, she said they dont see any cases these days, But I live in Australia, so no need to give him posions to kill heartworms he probably doesnt even have, also the Mosquito has to bite an infected dog then come along & bite your dog then infect your dog, this take 6months to become a heartworm….

    I do not use any flea chews etc they are very toxic, they attack the flea & ticks nervous system & paralyze the flea & tick causing neurological problems with some dogs.
    If you have to use a flea product just use “Frontline Spot On ” or the “Frontline Spray” Frontline only penitrates 2 layers of the dogs skin & doesn’t go into their blood system like the other flea products, you can also make natural sprays aswell.

    Follow “Rodney Habib” he is always posting short video’s
    https://www.facebook.com/rodneyhabib
    also follow
    “Dr. John Robb – Protect the Pets” do not over vaccinate.
    https://www.facebook.com/DRRobbPTP/

    #127918
    Ann B
    Member

    Just an update on Zignature. We feed canned food plus dry Zignature…lots of options including Salmon, Whitefish and others. Our dog has NO issues with low Taurine levels.
    We used to feed prescription food and had lots of issues with GI etc. Very happy with the variety of “flavors” and again absolutely no issues with diet or blood levels. Zignature is highly rated with Dog Food Advisor. (I have no financial incentive to add my opinion; just an honest related experience with the brand.)

    #127917
    jill b
    Member

    My vet tells me to mix dry food, wet food, and green beans. I emailed Fromm and they have a food that is not grain free and does not contain chicken.

    #127834
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Robin,

    Can you afford “Endoscope + Biospies” you need the Biospies for some answers other wise your going around in circle.
    Why she doesn’t eat is cause food causes PAIN, also is she on an Acid Blocker? Omeparazole or Pantoprazole?
    You’d be suprise how many dogs suffer with acid reflux..
    Is she refusing o eat the vet diets? they are very high in omega oils & can cause acid reflux, my boy gets worse on the dry & wet vet diets, especially the Hills I/d wet can foods they have digestive enzymes seem to make his IBD worse then he has a bad fermenting smell coming up from his stomach, smell her breath????

    Does she take Metronidazole? this really helps my boy with his IBD, Metronidazole kills bad bacteria in stomach & small bowel & has anti inflammatory aswell, Patch cant take Prednisone steriod he gets too many side effects.

    are you on facebook?
    Join this f/b group
    “Dogs with Inflammatory Bowel Disease IBD – Raw Feeding & Holistic Support”
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/292537937935806/

    You do not have to feed a raw diet, a few dogs are on vet diets, cooked & some are on Raw & doing reallly well, Patch eats a dry kibble he cant hold the digested raw down he regurgitates wet foods 🙁
    I’ve started my boy on “Bone Broth” I buy from Pet Shop & put in ice cube tray & thaw 1 bone broth ice cube a day add some water & Patch loves it also Freeze Dried Mussles your girl will love 1-2 Mussels a day as a treat, feed foods that are high in omega 3 fatty acids to reduce the inflammation in stomach & bowel,
    Rumbling grumbling bowel is Colitis, what she is eating could have an ingredient she is sensitive too, does this Wild Game she is eating have Lentils? my boy can not eat Lentils he gets the rumbles, bad wind then diarrhea, alot of dogs + humans get bad wind pain, farts from Lentils….also is the fat% needs to be low to med, protein -34% carbs low around 30% & Kcals per cup under 360Kcals per cup, the higher the Kcals the more dense the kibble so harder to digest..
    Look for a single protein & 1 carb diet, have you tried “Wellness Simple” Turkey & Potato formula??
    https://www.wellnesspetfood.com/natural-dog-food/product-catalog/simple-limited-ingredient-turkey-potato-recipe
    the Wellness Simple has a few different formula’s, Lamb meal & Oats, or boil Pototo + a white lean meat like pork, turkey add boiled sweet potato & add some Pumkin, Pumkin soothe the stomach & bowel. They can lick some boiled pumkin off the spoon I was getting tin salmon in spring water small can draining the spring water & boil some sweet potato add 1/2 & 1/2 mix in bowl cover put in fridge & see if she eats some when you have just made it, if yes then next time take out of fridge & warm in Microwave a small amount in bowl just take off the chill..

    Also Slippery Elm Powder have you tried giving Slippery Elm Paste, go health food store to buy, add 1/2 teaspoon of the Slipery Elm Powder in bowl or cup boil the jug add boiled water slowly till you make a paste cool get those 20ml syringes pull up 5ml of the Slipery Elm Slurry & put side of her mouth back teeth & push teh plunger on syringe she lick lick & swollow it, the Slippery Elm Slurry is given 20mins before she eats?? it lines the esophagus & stomach..

    Try & join the
    Dogs with Inflammatory Bowel Disease IBD – Raw Feeding & Holistic Support group heaps of help for your girl….

    #127827
    joanne l
    Member

    Hi Robin, I am so sorry to hear about your dog. The only thing I can say is try Nature’s variety Instinct Limited ingredient diet, they have can and dry. I heard a lot of good things about it and especially for dogs with IBS. One of my friends dog has IBS and nothing from the vet helped until he tried this food he said it was amazing.

    #127760
    Joelle V
    Participant

    Some of this is trial and error. I have Portuguese Water Dogs who have many genetic issues but also strict testing by ethical breeders. I feed fish based foods, grain free. Taurine levels are normal. I also give a probiotic (one Thorne bacillus coagulants), human ester c, 500 mg tablet that I break in two for 250mg a day, and human vitamin e (Nordic ultimate omega, one mini per day), all prescribed by a holistic vet as my dog has a sensitive stomach, manageable IBS. I like Annamaet for a dry food, and use the one with fish. I add Sensibites for my pup and top it off with a good bit of Kasiks Salmon canned food and hot water to soften and make a broth. My 13 year old is on canned food only, three types, all grain free fish. If a canned fish approach interests you, let me know and I am happy to share the brands, which always include the salmon by Kasiks. I have not researched the fish approach for Taurine levels, although I would consult a holistic vet. Good luck!

    #127749
    jane a
    Member

    Please help, I have 3 dogs, a chihuahua/pitbull mix(4), a dachshund(7), and German shorthaired pointer mix (6). My pointer has arthritis and joint pain and I would like to find a dog food that all 3 dogs can eat, and that is the most nutritious, healthy food that also has glucosamine for the arthritis. I am currently feeding them Earthbound lamb formula (dry kibble). I tried the Dr. Marty’s, but it was very expensive and they only liked it for about a week. I was hoping for a frozen raw suggestion, or anything else that is not full of bi-product. Holistic sounds good, but I am so confused over the many options. I really appreciate feedback, I can’t stand seeing my dog in pain, and all the vet wants to do is put on painkillers.

    #127535

    In reply to: dog licking bottom

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Joanne,
    it’s probably his food the batches can varying, there might be more of a certain grain maybe more oats then the barley or more barley then oats & he does better when there’s more of the grain that agrees with him?? then sometimes there’s less of that grain & more of another grain??..
    The same thing happened with Patch years ago, when he was eating “Earthborn Holistic” Ocean, when I bought the first small bag Ocean Fusion to try the kibbles were darker he did really well so I get another small bag with the same batch & use by dates he did well again, then I tried looking for the same batch nb & use by date in bigger bag cause Earthborn Holistic in small bags is expensive at $44 for 2kgs.
    I couldn’t fined the same batch nb & use by date so I ended up buying the bigger size bag 12kg with a different batch nb & Use by date, the kibbles were lighter in colour I knew straight away he’ll have problems with this batch, within 2 days his poos were soft & sloppy then diarrhea by day 3-4,
    I’d say there was more grounded barley, now I’ve discovered he cant eat barley..

    Have you looked at the “Pure Being” sold in Adli’s America, the ingredients look pretty good in the Pure Being, there’s the grain formula’s or grain free formulas, we have just gotten the new Adli’s wet dry & treats called “Natural Elements” but we only have the Grainfree Salmon or Chicken formula’s & the fat is 18%, it’s too high for Patch, the US “Pure Being” has better ingredients & lower in fat, so I just bought Patch the Natural Elements Kangaroo treats they had good ingredients, I’m getting a few things together for Xmas he loves opening presents, ripping the paper apart & getting a squeaky toy….

    Look at Batch nbs & use by dates when you get the darker kibbles that agree with him or try another brand see how he does, or look at the EarthBorn Holistic Ocean Fusion formula he might do good on this formula, it has no Oatmeal, no peas & has barley & Sweet potatoes, Rye Flour then Potatoes for the carbs.. these ingredients might firm up his poos more, you can try & see, firmer poos will empty anal glands better but I think he might be reacting to an ingredient Patch has to have kibbles rotated or sometimes he starts reacting after 3months.
    My vet feeds Earthborn Holistic the grain free Coastal Catch formula for her sensitive girl.
    https://www.earthbornholisticpetfood.com/dog-food-formulas/holistic/ocean-fusion

    #127482

    In reply to: dog licking bottom

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Joanne,

    Patch was licking bum cause of food sensitivities & his poos weren’t firm enough to empty the anal gland naturally & he was rubbing bum on floor, grass, carpet, concrete, it was awful…

    Are his poos firm?? Have you changed his diet recently or giving him new treats etc?
    If his poos are firm it’s not anal glands they’d be emptying naturally themselves, also he’s a big dog, its normally the smaller dogs who end up with anal gland problems cause owners start emptying their anal glands themselves or when they go to the dog groomers they empty the small dogs anal glands, my vet said this isnt necessary to do on a healthy dog..
    Patches 2nd vet was emptying Patches anal glands everytime we went for our monthly vets, then Patches 3rd good vet said NO, there’s no need to keep emptying his anal glands, he’ll empty his anal glands himself, then she took him off the grain vet diet & said look for a Fish or Lamb & Sweet Potato grain free kibble, a protein you know he does well on, she said stay away from chicken cause the Eukanuba Intestinal vet diet was Chicken & his skin was smelly of yeast, itchy & rubbing his bum all day, the Sudocrem did soothe it for him thats stopped the rubbing bum on ground a little but as soon as he started the TOTW Sierra Mountain Lamb formula he started to empty his own anal glands & now I can see after he does a poos sometimes a clear liquid is running down his black bum & I get a baby wipe & wipe his bum after a poo…

    I’d buy a baby cream, I use either “Sudocrem” or look for “Bepanthen” soothing cream, this will stop the itch & any redness..
    Look at diet change there’s some OK grain free dry foods, there’s probably an ingredient he may be sensitive too..
    Also has he been wormed? maybe worm him aswell especially if you go on walks, he may have worms..
    Then if after doing these things & he’s the same I’d see a good vet that gets to the bottom of the problem not just emptys his anal glands & sends you home you can do that yourself, I couldn’t do it to Patch, it smells awful when the anal glands do empty this is why I wipe Patches bum with a baby wipes after he does his poos..

    #127112

    In reply to: wellness products

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ana,
    At the moment I’m rotating & feeding “Canidae Pure Meadow” formula, the fat is
    10.80%max high in omega oils for skin, coat & bones. I got this bag for free from Canidae, I had brought their All Life Stages Platinum kibble about 1 month ago, years ago Patch did OK on Canidae ALS Platinum dry grain formula but not this time his poos were awful, when I contacted the online pet store to change they wanted me to send back the 13kg bag of kibble, it would have cost me an arm & a leg to send it back to the online store also it was in another state, postage is dear in Australia, so I contacted Canidae I told the lady what had happened & Canidae replaced with something else (Pure Meadow) that I knew agreed with Patch, Canidae are pretty good… & I donated the big bag of Platinum kibble to local rescue group, some lucky dog would be happy, better then eating supermarket dry food..
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-meadow-dry-formula

    I always contact the pet food companies to get the max fat %..
    To my knowledge I’ve never seen any of Canidae formula’s on the 1 star heavy metal/toxins & contaminates section, in the beginning when the toxin/heavy metal study first came out Canidae had a few 5 star formula’s, Patch seems to do really well on the Canidae kibbles, their CANIDAE® Grain Free PURE Petite® Small Breed Chicken With Real Chicken Dry Raw Coated Formula & the Salmon formula both are 12%min fat, you’d have to email Canidae for max fat % when I’ve emailed Canidae for max fat% its never much more when its white meat formula’s…
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-petite-raw-coated-dry-formula-with-real-chicken

    #127085
    Daryl F
    Member

    I have tried lots of different dog food and have made my own many times over the years. A friend of mine saw the video from Dr. Marty’s website and recommended I try some of the food. On the website it became very confusing and as I went through the ordering process I decided to back out and start over because of my confusion. What I did not realize is that once you put something in your shopping cart (even if you do not check out) at Dr. Marty’s website, you are charged for it (even if you think you put it back). I received emails verifying my orders but no amounts were posted. Then I received my C.C. bill, Holy Molely (not what I really said). Oh my, did I feel completely ripped off, at half price (according to the website) I was charged $26.95 a pound for this stuff! I mean who can afford this? I have three mid-size dogs and two are now thirteen and I had hoped the food would help with their health as they get older, but shoot I’ll go broke buying this sawdust (that just floats on the water it is suppose to be soaking in) as their regular food. They do love it and even Moses my 7 year old cat likes it. I called and gave the poor lady in customer service a terrible tongue lashing on what a rip off the company is and how totally cheated I felt, she was very nice and I felt bad because I am certain she has to listen to a lot of people calling that got tricked into buying some of Dr. Marty’s overpriced dog food. I can understand that freeze drying is expensive but $54.00 a pound? Come on Dr. Marty stop ripping people off, there is no reason to charge the amount of money you do and if you would please start using an honest approach with your website ordering system, and stop tricking people into buying your doggone dog food. Even though I do not know you personally, I will tell anyone and everyone how much I hated feeling cheated by you, your website, your company and your dog food. Every time (hear your name) or I open the remaining bags I have I will be thinking about my feelings of the unfair business practices that mislead me into my purchases of such expensive products. I think your system stinks but that is just my opinion after unknowingly being charged over $1,000.00 by your company. I pray that you are doing something good with all the money you must be receiving from the many customers who are simply looking for a healthy alternative for their best friends, you should be ashamed. I believe an honest person/company would be upfront and honest with their clients, just think how nice it would be to work for an honest and transparent company’s customer service?

    Sincerely,
    Mr. D

    #126929
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Cindy,

    My daughter name is also Cindy, your dog is a very lucky dog to have you has his owner & didn’t change his kibble & continue feeding him a dry kibble…You’d probably still have a very sick dog..

    I too follow Judy Morgan DVM aswell my boy Patch is a rescue who I rescued 6 years ago, it’s his 10th birthday tomorrow, Tuesday 20th November also on this day I rescued him from being put to sleep that day 🙂
    He came to me in a really bad condition for a 4 yr old dog, he has IBD diagnosed thru Endoscope + Biopsies, Environment Allergies & Food Sensitivities…. It’s been a struggle he just had 5 weird looking wort type lumps removed 2-3 weeks ago & I just knew he was cancer free, he has the luck of the Irish the vet said gee he’s a lucky boy she was really worried about 1 lump on the side of his back leg so was I, this weird lump grew very quickly & look weird, we thought Mast Cell Tumor but no we wer wong thank god, he has a few angels watching over him..
    Years ago I found Judy’s pup loaf recipe & tweak it a bit to suit Patches needs, I make Lean Pork Rissoles + Boiled Sweet Potato & Lean Beef Rissoles + Boiled Sweet Potatoes, I add 1 whisked egg, finally chopped parsely, chopped broccolli & spinach or kale, I bake in oven as Patch needs low fat when he eats any cooked foods, I make the rissoles 1/2 cup in size & bake them on a foil lined baking tray, take out 1/2 way 15mins to drain any water/fat & turn them over & bake till ready, they only take about 25-30mins & they freeze really well same as the boiled sweet potato pieces they thaw out pretty good…

    He also gets freezed dried Mussels x 1-2 a day depends how big teh mussels are, strawberries, they are very cheap at teh moment, peeled apple, water melon, almond 3 a day whe I remember & his Bone Broth drink after his mid morning walk, I try to give him healthy foods that don’t cause any problems with his IBD… What I eat Patch gets some aswell… His IBD became worse last Nov-2017 after eating TOTW Lamb formula, he went down hill, I nilly put him to sleep in January 2018 instead I asked his vet can he do another Endoscope + Biopsies & found Patches lower Sphincter flap doesn’t close properly, sadly he doesnt do well on big wet meals now as he regurgatates them making his acid reflux worse, the only food he keeps down for his big meals is dry kibble 🙁
    I was devastated but he does still eats a small wet meal for lunch only, lunch time is when he gets his freeze dried raw “Frontier Pets” or his Rissoles Sweet Potato etc, he still gets his little extra healthy foods, I want to try blueberries & beets next..

    Do you follow “Rodney Habib”
    https://www.facebook.com/rodneyhabib
    Rodney has been traveling around the world for 1 year talking to vets, Drs, scientist all around the world doing research on cancer in dogs & how to stop dogs from getting cancer… He’s a wealth of information.
    Did you know there’s only about 110 Vet Nutritionist on this planet & 98% of them work for the big Pet Food companies, so there’s only about 2% vet nutritionist who aren’t bias like Judy Morgan that really want to educate us & get our dogs healthy thru natural foods & not feed these over processed dry pet foods & they will not recommend a high carb dry vet diet when your dog gets cancer ….. It’s sad I think…
    I live in Australia & alot of pet owners feed either a raw diet or a cooked diet & a few feed kibble as base & add raw, the longest living dogs both came from Australia Bluey he was 29yrs old & Maggie she just passed away & she was 30yrs old both dogs were raw feed dogs..

    Here’s a new group Dr Karen Becker, Susan Garret & Rodney have just started, its called
    “Life with Dogs and Cats – Health, Training & Research”
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifewithdogsandcats/?ref=br_rs

    #126923
    Matthew N
    Member

    I would be really interested in seeing a review for the dry Heart to Tail – Pure Being natural dry dog food from Aldi. I have a dachshund who also has a sensitive stomach. I think it’s $14.99 for a 12 lb bag. Which like it was mentioned above is a pretty good deal & Aldi is know for the quality of their products.

    #126835
    Cindy W
    Member

    Acana kibble food from the Kentucky plant nearly killed my cavalier king charles spaniel. He was very anemic and his GI tract was a mess. I didn’t know what to do. I began to research online day and night. I came across Dr. Judy Morgan, a holistic vet. What an eye opener! I watched all of her free webinar videos on you-tube, and then I watched all of her other you- tube videos. Wow. I had no idea that commercially prepared dry food is so HARD on a pet’s body, even when it’s a “good” food. Also, even when it is a “good” food, the sources for ingredients in commercial pet food can change and if the source is inferior the pet will suffer or even die. That is what happened to my dog. He nearly died. After watching the you-tube videos, I ordered Dr. Judy Morgan’s easy to read, small books on Amazon (they are not expensive). I read, “From Needles to Natural”, then I read ” Yin and Yang”, both in one day. At last, common sense, and from a veterinarian. I felt empowered to make his food. I bought a Cabela’s meat grinder (you can just buy a hand grinder for $15). I already had a small scale, which is necessary to weigh the ingredients, and I already had a food processor (but you can just chop the vegetables). I made my first batch of homemade pup loaf. My dog gobbled it up and he still goes crazy, eager to eat at every meal. The results have been miraculous. He is healed and is thriving. The “original” pup loaf recipe is the only one that I make because it includes ALL needed nutrients without having to add vitamins or minerals. The ingredients hardest to locate were local grass fed beef heart and grass fed beef liver (a local butcher took my order and provides it , but it can be ordered online) and the other ingredient that I had to locate was frozen cold water salt water mussels (the frozen pack that I buy are from Denmark), which I found next to the fresh seafood at Whole Foods. Everything else can be bought at your local grocery store. The original pup-loaf recipe will make exactly 4 dozen muffins. I wrap each one in foil, put a dozen per big zip lock bag and freeze. At night I take out enough pup muffins for the next day and put them in the fridge to thaw overnight. I weigh my dog every other day. I feed him to keep his weight at 15.2 lbs. (I stand on the scales while holding him to weigh him). He gets no grains at all in this diet. His cloudy eyes have cleared and he is full of energy. It isn’t necessary, but in addition to his pup muffins, we bake chicken thighs for him. We also finely mince and mix together a variety of fruit and vegetables. The chicken thighs can be frozen as well as the fruit and minced cooked vegetables. Soooo….each meal our dog gets: half of a pup-muffin, two tablespoons of minced baked chicken thigh meat and a tablespoon of cooked vegetables. His poops and his blood tests have been perfect. Praise the Lord!

    #126697
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ashley,

    I’d aviod all dry foods that have any type of fish, chances are your not getting the fish stated on your bag/formula.. also toxins, heavy metals & contaminates seem to be higher in fish formula’s.

    UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine’s latest study: Limited Ingredient/Allergy Diets🐶🐱 may not work for your pet because of this problem!
    Scroll dow to the results.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/vms3.125?fbclid=IwAR3JAeJouOK1TEOHlEKTRONZPp7FghmqdBaR561HJbc71J6fKucG5ncT9d8

    Go onto Rodney Habibs f/b page – https://www.facebook.com/rodneyhabib
    scroll down a bit & look for “The False Hope of Limited Ingredient & Allergy diets” video they tested Natural Balance LID Bison & Sweet Potato formula & it had Beef, Pork, Horse, Goat, Lamb in it & no Bison?

    I have a dog who has IBD, food sensitivities & environment allergies, I have found he does really well on “Wellness Core”, “Wellness Simple”- Turkey & Potato & “Canidae Pure”- Wild Pork & “Canidae” – Pure Meadow Senior, if you have a large breed look at Wellness Core Large breed adult or Wellness Core Small Breed formula’s are high protein, med -fat & low carbs..

    #126663

    In reply to: wellness products

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Ana,

    I think your talking about Wellness “FISH” formula’s being high in Toxins, not all off the Wellness formula’s are high in Toxins & Contaminates…
    There’s a “few” Brands that have FISH formulas that are also “VERY” high in Toxins, Contaminates & Heavy Metals, the Annamaet Lean has Herring fish meal in it, so chances are it will also be higher in Toxin & Contaminates then one of Annamaet other formula’s, also Annamaet Lean is very high in legumes, best not to feed no more then 20% Legumes when feeding a dry kibble….

    There’s a heap of different “Fish” brands that have or are on the high toxin list it doesn’t mean all their formula’s are bad…
    Earthborn Holistic, Fromm, TOTW, Purina Sensitive Stomach Salmon, Acana, Orijen, Racheal Ray, Halo, Diamond, Nutro, Natures Variety, Nulo, American Journey,Go, Open farm, Ol’ Roy, Kibbles N Bits the list goes on & on..

    If your dogs can be feed home made raw or home cooked balanced diets this would be heaps better then feeding these dry processed kibbles or try & feed less dry kibble & more healthy ingredients, eggs, tin salmon, boiled sweet potatoes & fresh blended or cooked veggies etc there’s a really good video in the “Life With Dogs & Cats” group I’ve posted link below, feeding dogs fresh raw blended or cooked Veggies, vegetable fibers are more healthy for gut, the Video is called “Dont forget to feed your Veggies” & has Dr Jean Dobbs on the Video, really good information..
    also reducing some of your dog dry kibble & replacing with healthy Green & Orange veggies will help lose some weight..lower your dogs carbs the Annamaet Lean formula has 50% carbs..

    If you feed a dry kibble then it’s best to rotate between a few different brands that agree with your dogs, so if 1 of the dry foods you’re feeding is high in heavy metals, or not balanced properly, or is high in Legumes, your dog isn’t just eating this 1 brand of dry dog food 24/7, year after year…
    I stick with feeding dry dog foods that are grain free & have white meats, Turkey, Pork & Chicken, these meats seem to be cleaner then fish, thats if the pet companies have a good suppliers….
    Mycotoxins are poisonous chemical compounds produced by certain fungi found in grains,
    so it’s not just the meats that have toxins, heavy metals, so when I see a brand that is Turkey or Chicken formula high on the toxin list & it has grains, I think Mycotoxins & Roundup
    could be the reason why this chicken or turkey formula is high on the Toxin & Contaminates list… http://www.fao.org/wairdocs/x5008e/x5008e01.htm

    DFA doesn’t believe in these testing & blocks the name of company & any links to this company that does the studies. I think its good this company is testing 299 most popular dog/cat foods & treats, its making these pet food companies clean up their act, keeps them on their toes.
    DFA writes about it this company on the Orijen Review section. /dog-food-reviews/orijen-dog-food-usa/

    We have just had another recall in Australia “Black Hawk” Salmon formula made by NZ Masterpet food company have admitted they change Fish suppliers, (probably went with a cheaper fish suplier) then all these poor dogs became very unwell, “Advance” Dermcare was using Tuna & a heap of dogs died Nov-2017 to March-2018 the surviving dogs all have Mega Eosphagus & little quality of life..

    Join this new facebook group
    “Life with Dogs and Cats” – Health, Training & Research
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/lifewithdogsandcats/?ref=direct

    It’s run by Dr Karen Becker, Susan Garrett & Rodney Habib & a few other people, group started about 3 weeks ago & already it has 5700 people, there’s a couple excellent video to watch, also on Planet Paws f/b page & Rodney Habib f/b page..
    One video is about the latest UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine’s latest study: on Limited Ingredient/Allergy Diets, so Karen Becker & Rodney bought a few popular LID dog foods & had ingredients tested & “Natural Balance” Bison formula was “not” Bison meat, it was Beef, Horse, Pork, Goat, Lamb ot had every red meat in it….
    Video is called “False Hope of Limited Ingredient & Allergy Diet” – video..

    Susan
    Participant

    Hi Rebecca,

    if you want to feed a healthy diet look at Raw, Cooked or Freeze dried Raw, Air Dried raw.
    Freeze Dried Raw looks like kibble & is quick & easy to give but Freeze dried & Air Dried hasn’t been cooked at high temps like kibble is cooked, all the good nutrition is still intact with freeze dried & Air Dried….

    Here’s “Canidae”
    https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products/canidae-grain-free-pure-ancestral-raw-coated-dry-red-meat-formula-with-lamb-goat-wild-boar/

    Here’s “Wellness Core”

    Core Dog Products

    Here’s “Ziwi Peak” Air Dried Raw your dogs will love Ziwi Peak.
    https://www.ziwipets.com/catalog/ziwi-peak-dog-nutrition

    Kibble is the least healthy to feed a dog, if you feed a dry kibble start adding healthy ingredients to dogs diet, eggs, tin salmon, sweet potato, broccoli, beets, mussels, sardines in spring water, foods high in omega 3 for bones. skin, coat, brain,
    Shih tzu’s are prone to Pancreatitis so becareful with high fat diets..

    If you’re on Face Book follow

    * Judy Morgan DVM – Click on Judy video’s, heaps of good info, cooking recipes,
    https://www.facebook.com/JudyMorganDVM/

    * K-9 Kitchen- Monica Segal
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/K9Kitchen/

    * K-9 Nutrition Lew Olson
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/371592139642185/

    * Rodney Habib is excellent.
    https://www.facebook.com/rodneyhabib

    Also DO NOT over vaccinate follow – John Robbs
    https://www.facebook.com/john.robb.7982?lst=100000463318984%3A100004886320823%3A1542235370

    Flea Products – stay away from the new flea chews, they can cause neurological problems, do your research..
    The only flea product that doesn’t go into the dogs blood system is “Frontline Plus” Spot On & the “Frontline Spray” it only penetrates 2 layers of the dogs skin..

    Less toxins you put into your dogs system the healthier they will be,
    looks like they have landed on all 4 paws & ended up in a good home..

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