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  • in reply to: WSAVA recommended .. #140112 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Amen, Sister BDog!

    in reply to: WSAVA recommended .. #140078 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    https://www.wsava.org/wsava/media/arpita-and-emma-editorial/selecting-the-best-food-for-your-pet.pdf

    Above is the link to WSAVA’s recommendations to select dog food. Wondering which of the recommendations you two don’t think is important? As you have stated, they do not make any specific brand recommendations, just helpful advice for consumers to choose a food.

    Also, can you tell me why companies such as Champion, Fromm, Diamond and others do not do their own or contribute to any type of research or testing. Wouldn’t you rather the brand you choose have done some controlled feeding trials to determine the digestibility of their formulas rather than on your dogs? It’s not like these are small ma and pa companies.

    I praise the big companies for parting with some of their profits to help fund research veterinary schools.

    I hope you find a safe food that works for your dogs.

    in reply to: The Right Stuff #139306 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Hmmm? Anon, I thought you were against meaningless asymptomatic screenings. 🤔

    in reply to: Pharmaceuticals and heartworm meds #139242 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    I agree! And, I used to look at them. But, thankfully, now I know better!

    Seven Dog Pages You Need To Stop Linking To:
    https://www.thedodo.com/five-dog-pages-you-need-to-stop-linking-to-1091066497.html

    in reply to: CHEWY.COM and True Acre Dog Food #139162 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Try contacting American Pet Nutrition. They make PetSmart’s Authority brand.

    http://www.anibrands.com/

    in reply to: Purina dog food #139143 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Ok, Joanne, those are two complaints out of millions of bags of Purina sold. These problems are most likely happening at the storage facility or at the home.

    I’ve been feeding it consistently now for about 10 months. I have bought it from Petco, PetSmart and/or Chewy. Never once have I had any bugs in their kibble.

    In fact, I’ve never had any bugs in any bag of kibble of any brand in the over 30 years that I’ve had dogs and cats. It really sounds like you are looking for a reason not to feed Purina to me. Don’t feed it then. Feed something that you are comfortable with the brand’s history and and manufacturing practices. Good luck!

    in reply to: Top Recommended Dry Foods #139129 Report Abuse
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    Christine-

    That write up is full of falsehoods. What credentials does the writer have? Do they sell pet food?

    I think it just says what you wanted to hear. I’d rather stick with the scientists researching this issue’s facts .

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #138988 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Don’t worry about the DFA star rating! Especially not for a dog with a medical condition. I feed my dogs Purina ProPlan Large Breed Weight Management. I feel that it should be rated a 10 for my dogs.

    I don’t agree with the rating system on this site. You can use the information to rate the food however you want. Purina is a good company that has been around for years. They use a team of experts to formulate their food. Good luck!

    crazy4cats
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    My cat had a urinary blockage with struvite crystals. He’s been on Royal Canin Rx food ever since. He is doing great!

    in reply to: CHEERIOS ALTERNATIVE ADVICE #138737 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    If you think it is the fiber in the Cheerios that is helping, you could try adding a little plain canned pumpkin. But, you want to be careful not to add too many unbalanced things to your dog’s diet. Only 10 to 15% of calories should be unbalanced toppers and treats. You could be feeding a little too much too. That will sometimes cause loose stools.

    Also, I believe Orijen is a very rich grain free diet. I’m surprised you would feed it to a dog with a tendency to have pancreatitis. In addition, have you seen the FDA warning about grain free boutique foods?

    https://vetnutrition.tufts.edu/2018/11/dcm-update/

    Best wishes!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #138736 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Exactly BDog! The fact that those companies are doing their own and donating to research is exactly why I WOULD choose their food to feed my pets. Lack of studies on the other brands makes it hard to know if they are good or not.

    The smaller companies are certainly charging enough for their foods that one would think they could afford to contribute to some testing and studies. In addition, employ a team of experts to develop their formulas. But, instead they are using untested “exotic” ingredients that sound yummy to humans but may not being formulated properly for our furries.

    in reply to: Grain Free Diets and Heart Disease #138694 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    The problem with this article is that it is from last August. Since then, it has been discovered that many of the dogs being diagnosed with NM DCM are not deficient in taurine. I hope it gets figured out soon!

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #138657 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Good luck, Joanne. I hope it works out.

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #138627 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    She can buy food from whoever she wants. But, Chewy has a great variety and also is a great source for searching for foods.

    in reply to: Grain Free Diets and Heart Disease #138625 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    LOL! You are something else, anon101. You’re welcome, btw, for giving you a heads up on Zignature. At least maybe we helped your dogs out, anyway.

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #138622 Report Abuse
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    in reply to: Grain Free Diets and Heart Disease #138621 Report Abuse
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    joanne l

    Great article! I have not seen this one. It sums it up very nicely. Glad to see the word is getting out. You can choose to believe veterinarians or bloggers who believe they know more than them. Good luck!

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #138575 Report Abuse
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    Joanne-

    Purina has beef and rice formulas. I have fed a Beneful recipe and I believe there are ProPlan and Purina One beef foods as well.

    If you are interested in Victor, write down a list of questions and contact the company who makes it. If you are happy with their responses, then feed it! The WSAVA is trying to stress that it is important to check out the company making your pet’s food. You cannot tell enough by ingredient panels. It’s impossible to know the quality of the ingredients and how much of each are actually in the food. I have no idea how ingredients work together to keep a dog healthy. I’m trusting the companies who employ experts and do feed trials.

    Btw. WSAVA does not approve foods. They have a list of recommendations for pet food manufacturers to follow.

    I really hope that there are other foods that are “safe” to feed other than the Purina, Hills, RC, Iams and Eukanuba. But, it is up to the other brands to prove it to me. Good luck!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #137758 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Again, some grains contain the precursors that dogs need to synthesize taurine on their own. So, yes, they can be very important. All the ingredients need to work together to make a complete nutrient package.

    And, again, and most important, most of the dogs being diagnosed are NOT taurine deficient. So, your continued recommendation of feeding foods high in meat content is not necessarily a fix.

    Any company can choose to part with some of their profits and hire a team of experts, do some research and controlled feed trials. There is no one stopping them.

    Veterinary nutritionists have years of education. They should be shown some respect.

    in reply to: Cat who hates wet food #137756 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Have you tried Friskies or Fancy Feast? I didn’t think any cats could resist these.

    I have a fountain for my cats to encourage drinking. There is something about running water that attracts cats. They also like to drink from the kitchen faucet.

    If you feed a kibble that is formulated for urinary issues, that would help also. I would feed one made by Royal Canin, Purina, Iams or Hills. I think they all have urinary formulas. Good luck!

    in reply to: DOG FOOD MANUFACTURERS INFLUENCE ON WSAVA? #137754 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    People seem to forget that dogs are able to synthesize their own taurine if the proper precursors are included in their food. People also forget that many of the dogs being diagnosed with diet related DCM are not deficient in taurine. There is something else going on that has not been discovered yet . Maybe some type of toxicity.

    Some people should do some research and listen to the experts who are researching this issue rather than forming their own conclusions without the proper facts or education.

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #137753 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    I have been a member of the group for about 9 months. They actually had a raw feeder as a moderator for a while and there still might be another. They recommend if you feed raw or homemade to work with a board-certified veterinary nutritionist. And, they have a list of them to contact.

    They don’t bash any foods. They just ask that no one recommend a brand that is not in compliance with the WSAVA recommendations. It’s all spelled out and you have to agree to these terms to join.

    Yes, there have been dogs diagnosed with nutritional mediated DCM that were raw fed.

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137695 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Not sure if you guys saw this link:

    https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.253.11.1390

    Hopefully, they are getting closer to what is going on.

    in reply to: About Mars pet foods #137693 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    I believe it was Cesar’s Canned Dog Food. Not under the RC umbrella.

    in reply to: Struvite vs Oxalate Bladder Stones #137675 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Hi Hannah O-

    I only have experience with struvite crystals. They can be dissolved, the oxalate ones cannot.

    I feed my cat that has experienced a blockage an Royal Canin Rx Diet. It has an S/O index, which is supposed to help prevent both types of crystal/stones. I would imagine they would have a similar formula for dogs. Does your dog have a urinary tract infection? Often with dogs, they coincide with crystals.

    Below is a link that may be helpful. I’m sure it is stressful. What is your vet recommending?

    https://www.vetmed.umn.edu/centers-programs/minnesota-urolith-center/urolith-analysis/treatment-recommendations

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137656 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Hey look guys!

    SkepVet gives nutrition resources for pet owners! Surprise, surprise! Look who is first on the list!

    http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2014/02/nutrition-resources-for-pet-owners/

    in reply to: DCM and raw food? #137654 Report Abuse
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    Ruby H-
    Even if the food had anything to do with it, which I doubt, we need to put the blame on the company making it. Not on you!!

    I’m very sorry to hear about your pup. It is so hard when they pass. Especially, when they can’t talk and tell us what is going on with them. Definitely, the hardest part of owning them. But, I will still always have one or two, (or three!)

    Unfortunately, there have been a few dogs diagnosed with diet-related DCM that were being fed raw. Are you working with a veterinarian nutritionist? The FB group I provided below has a link for raw feeders to certified animal nutritionists that work with people who feed raw.

    The article that Anon posted is not SkeptVet’s latest on the subject. This one is: http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2018/12/evidence-update-grain-free-and-other-beg-diets-associated-with-heart-disease-in-dogs/

    I have golden labs and joined a FB group run by mostly veterinarians that are following the science-based facts regarding this very subject. Check it out: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/

    The also have a website with helpful information: https://taurinedcm.org/

    Surprisingly, I switched to Purina ProPlan and my dogs are doing great. They had an echocardiogram a few weeks ago after having been fed it for about 8 months and they are fine. Thank goodness!

    Hope this helps!

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137633 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    The veterinarians I follow have not given any medical advice regarding any medical condition. Yes, that would be unethical. Recommending a food that follows the WSAVA guidelines is not.

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137631 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Anon-
    Go ahead and feed Fromm. Chances are your dog/s will be fine. However, this is Joanne’s thread.
    I am answering HER questions. I have looked into Fromm. I have kept up to date on all the current information from all of the science-based experts investigating regarding the recent increase of dogs being diagnosed with DCM.

    Fromm is definitely a boutique food according to Lisa Freeman’s (veterinary nutritionist) definition. I do not believe they follow any of the WSAVA recommendations. Actually, I think they do have their own manufacturing facility. However, they use exotic ingredients that are new to the industry and are not tested. They have dogs that have been diagnosed with DCM while eating it and got better when fed something else.

    Check out Dr. Joshua Stern’s (UC Davis) peer-reviewed study for the proof.

    Some people smoke and don’t get cancer, some dogs eat boutique foods and don’t get DCM. I’m not taking the chance!

    Again, go ahead and feed it!

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137628 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Yes, they probably are asking for donations. However, you do not have to donate to follow their guidelines. Shame on these boutique companies who are not putting any of their profits into hiring a team of experts or doing any feeding trials! Hmmmm?
    No thanks!

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137626 Report Abuse
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    anon101-
    It’s really not about the big four to me. It’s about meeting the WSAVA guidelines. Namely, employing a team of experts, including a full-time board-certified veterinary nutritionist and doing feeding trials. The “big four” go over and above the AAFCO requirements in this area.

    joannel- You are correct. Toxicity is one of the possibilities the researchers (FDA and several veterinary colleges) are looking into. You may find this interesting: https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/full/10.2460/javma.253.11.1390

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137621 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Have they done a feed trial on their new fabulous food? They do not have a board-certified veterinary nutritionist on staff. I just checked last week.

    Most importantly, they have several cases of diet-related DCM. These dogs got better when they changed their diet. If they cannot formulate a grain free recipe correctly, I don’t trust that their recipes with grain are any better.

    Hey, this is coming from someone who used to feed it and am disappointed I had to switch. But, it’s not worth the risk in my opinion. I don’t really understand how people can become so attached to a dog food?

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137549 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    I don’t really know how involved Purina is other than financially. I’ve been following the FB group that Marie mentioned. They don’t include them in their list of foods that they have found to be WSAVA compliant. You could always email them and ask them directly. I was also feeding their Whole Earth Farms line and will not be feeding it any longer either. I feel that I can rotate between only a couple of kibbles, but switch up the toppers for variety. (Mostly canned and maybe some fresh chicken, fish and/ or eggs now and then too. They are doing great on PPP Focus kibble and canned!

    in reply to: Fromm dog food #137539 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Hi Joanne-
    I no longer feed Fromm either. Too bad I thought I found a food that they did well on to put in their rotation. I wasn’t feeding a grain free formula, but it was very high in fiber. One of the things that researchers say may be connected to DCM. In addition, I’ve learned that they do not employ a veterinary nutritionist and haven’t for a long tome, if ever. To top it off, as Marie stated, one study links them to nutritional-mediated DCM.

    I’m sticking with the foods that meet the WSAVA guidelines.

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #137349 Report Abuse
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    Joanne-
    You could always purchase a ProPlan Beef canned food to feed as a topper. I buy the ProPlan Large Breed Beef and Rice canned and put a couple of TBS mixed in their food. They love it. Bad thing is, you may get the stink eye if it’s not on the food when they get used to it.

    in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #137347 Report Abuse
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    JRS-
    They actually have a chart that lists the brands that have been submitted to them from dogs that have diet-related DCM. They do not list the actual formula because they said it’s tough to include them on their chart. For example, many of Acana’s Formulas have been implicated. It’s hard to fit them all in. Therefore, they just list the brand. They have to submit the actual results of their echo and then they have to wait and see if they recover with a food change before they are entered on the chart. I believe Fromm has had a few reported that may not have been grain free.

    They might delete your question because it’s been asked before, but I doubt they would ban you. Remember, this chart is only a group community “project”. It is not what is reported to the FDA and only a small percentage of all the dogs. I hope they are being reported to the FDA by the owners.

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #137341 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    I’ve been having a hard time finding a beef recipe to. I have fed one of the Beneful recipes, but I think it might have chicken or poultry By-Product in it.

    Not sure why the other brands do not make many or any beef formulas?

    in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #137318 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    That is just plain not true. They have an article by Lisa Freeman, Veterinary Nutritionist, that states it’s not just grain free.

    in reply to: Dog food (Duplicate Topic #4) #137317 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Hi Joanne,
    Just wanted to let you know that I am now a fan of Purina ProPlan. I used to feed my two large dogs a rotation of mostly grain free along with some with grain. I never really understood why grain free could be better with all the peas and potatoes. Especially when the recommendation is to feed your dogs boiled chicken breast with over cooked rice when they have bad bellies. Why is it now all the sudden best to stay away from rice? I followed the trend and marketing anyway. You can still give in to peer pressure when you’re a grown adult and know better!

    When the FDA warning came out and our very own Aimee showed concern over it, I switched. My dogs are part Golden and it made me nervous. Anyway after feeding Purina for 8 months I had an echocardiogram done for peace of mind. Thankfully, they are both fine.

    They do best on the Purina ProPlan Focus Lg Breed Weight Management formula. I tried the Purina One Weight Mgt with turkey and they had a ton of gas. Too bad as Purina One is a little cheaper. Lol,

    My dogs stools are the smallest and firmest they have ever been. Which is saying a lot! Their coats and skin are good too. Although they have never had issue with that. I may give Iams and/or Eukanuba a try sometime in the future as well. Good luck!

    in reply to: Grain Free Diets and Heart Disease #137118 Report Abuse
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    Yes, Joanne, I hope the investigation into the sudden increase of cases of DCM in dogs would come up with some more concrete answers soon also. However, it seems like it is complicated. Too bad some of the companies whose names keep coming up as having been fed to the dogs being diagnosed would step up and help support the research. They instead are turning their backs and continue to formulate dog food without employing people with the expertise to do so. Also using new untested ingredients without doing any type of feed trials.

    So many people roll their eyes at the “big 3” donating money to the researchers. How would the research get done if they didn’t. I’m sure they would accept money from some of the other pet food companies as well. I’m guessing that Champion, Fromm, Global Pets, and Diamond have enough profits to contribute. They charge enough for their food! Where are their profits going? Not on veterinarian nutritionists, testing, research or feeding trials!

    Not sure if the FDA ever came to a conclusion on what was causing dogs to die from jerky treats. I won’t ever feed those again either. Just like I will only feed foods that meet all the WSAVA criteria from now on.

    You’re right about dogs being able to synthesize their own taurine if the proper precursors are available in their diet. There are several articles to be found on the internet with this information. I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I am not an expert at analyzing dog food ingredient panels! You just can’t get the whole story from them.

    Btw, Dr. Stern’s peer-reviewed study at UCDavis was privately funded. There was no money taken from any pet food companies.

    My dogs are doing great on Purina ProPlan. Sounds like yours are/is as well, joanne. Best wishes!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #136439 Report Abuse
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    Haley cookie-
    Most of the dogs that are being diagnosed currently with diet-mediated DCM are NOT low in taurine. The issue isn’t quite as simple as adding taurine-rich supplements. Your recommendations are dangerous. There is something going on with how the BEG diets are being formulated. I can’t think of anything more heartless than to tell someone who has a dog diagnosed with DCM that it is due to feeding a subpar food.

    So many people are feeling guilty as it is. And they should not! The companies making these foods are at fault! They are using untested ingredients being formulated by people who do not have the expertise to do so. Then marketing them like they are the best without doing any feeding trials. Our dogs are their guinea pigs and it’s not going well. They are not taking any responsibility. Shame on them!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #136389 Report Abuse
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    I’m sure the vets on that site cannot make formula recommendations without actually examining your dog or consulting with a vet who has.

    I switched my dogs to Purina ProPlan Focus Large Breed Adult Weight Management. Whew! Say that real fast. Lol!

    What are you feeding now? I tried to find a kibble that had a similar analysis as what I was feeding. For example, calories, fat, and fiber. You could call or email whichever brand you choose for help choosing a formula.

    I’m glad people are finding out about this and switching foods at least until the exact cause is found out. Good luck!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #136366 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Check out this FB group:

    Taurine-Deficient (Nutritional) Dilated Cardiomyopathy

    It is a science-based group that is keeping up with the latest research on the increasing number of dogs being diagnosed with DCM due to their diets. They also have a support group for owners with dogs who have been diagnosed with it.

    I’m sorry about your dog’s diagnosis. What food did you switch to?

    crazy4cats
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    Exactly Marie and BDog! Thank goodness owners are being proactive and having their dogs tested. DCM is typically asymptomatic until they are in heart failure and it’s too late to fix. Once diagnosed, they can change their diet, take their meds and be on the road to recovery if it is diet mediated.

    crazy4cats
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    In the beginning, yes, not so much anymore that people are becoming aware of the issue. There have been several different breeds diagnosed and have been improving with food changes. Golden Retrievers do not have a genetic link to DCM.

    crazy4cats
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    Hmmmm??? Other than the fact that Zignature is a grain free boutique brand that has the highest number of dogs diagnosed with DCM after eating it, is a good food. Just Hmmmm????

    crazy4cats
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    Actually, no, I have called Fromm myself! And am following the advice of our vet and a board-certified veterinarian cardiologist who is researching this issue.

    I’ve read most everything the SkepVet has written. Funny, I actually follow him on his FB page! I guess not all FB sites are bogus. I value his information and opinions.

    crazy4cats
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    It is not opinion, it is fact. Go ahead and give them a call and ask. Is this the same vet that you said approved of Zignature and said that “legumes rock?”

    Never ever have I implied I am a veterinarian. I was feeding Fromm myself when I saw the results of Dr. Stern of UC Davis peer-reviewed DCM study results. I quickly switched to Purina.

    crazy4cats
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    Hi DanniB –
    It certainly wouldn’t hurt to feed large breed puppy food just to be safe. It is formulated correctly to keep growing joints of large breed pups healthy.

    Lots of large breed pups are raised on Purina Pro Plan large breed puppy food with excellent results.

    I wouldn’t feed Fromm. It is considered a boutique food company. They do not have a vetrinary nutritionist on staff and have not done any testing, research or feed trials since the 90’s. I don’t know much about the Wellness brand. I’d stick to Purina, Royal Canin, Hill’s, Iams or Eukanuba. They have all been around for a long time and do much testing on their food. Good luck and have fun with your new puppy!

    in reply to: Grain Free (Topic 3) #136123 Report Abuse
    crazy4cats
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    Lol!, I’ve been a member of the Taurine-Deficient (Nutritional) Dilated Cardiomyopathy since early August. You probably found out about it from me!

    It’s hard to keep us all straight.

    I read your comments the other day on the site about how well one of your dogs is doing on Bright Mind. I gave you an upvote!

    I like to keep spreading the word about this increasing concern with DCM and “boutique” type foods.

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