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Hi Sheila! I have been disappointed in Dr. Tim’s responses in the past as well. I like how Aimee teaches us to find out the information for ourselves. I’ve learned a lot from her.
I know some are not fans, but, I prefer to stick to the big brands that have a proven history of success. They have a team of experts, own their own facilities and do feeding trials. They are Royal Canin, Purina, Euanuba, Iams and Hill’s. I believe they all have weight maintenance formulas. A couple of them have prescription formulas for weight loss. They could help with the loss and then move to an OTC formula.
My dogs are currently eating Purina One kibble with a dab of canned. My cats all eat Royal Canin kibble with a dab of canned also.
It’s great you are trying to keep your dog trim. It’s a big struggle at our house too. But, I know it’s best for their health. (and mine too 🙂 )
We like Purina One in our family for a budget friendly dog food. They have a sensitive skin and stomach formula that might work for you: https://www.purina.com/purina-one/dogs/dry-dog-food/sensitive-systems-real-salmon.
Best of luck to you and your furry family.
Do you know who makes it? I’ve never heard of it.
Have you tried Royal Canin’s prescription Ultamino?July 11, 2020 at 1:29 pm in reply to: Is there a Dog Food for Bladder Stones AND Pancreatitis #157823 Report Abuse
Have either of you considered a homemade diet? It probably would be expensive, but petdiets.com or Balanceit.com are both run by veterinary nutritionists that may be able to help formulate a diet with approval from your vet. Best wishes. 💜
Thank you for posting. Luckily, I don’t feed this food.July 10, 2020 at 12:05 pm in reply to: Is there a Dog Food for Bladder Stones AND Pancreatitis #157774 Report Abuse
Have you checked out Royal Canin prescription diets? I know they offer some dual purpose formulas. I feed a calming + urinary food to one of my cats. Hope you find one that works!March 13, 2020 at 9:49 am in reply to: Two weeks of loose stools and nightly explosive diarrhea #154289 Report Abuse
So glad you found the cause! Also, that it is something that you can treat and not have to deal with any type of food intolerances or life long digestive condition.
Best wishes!March 10, 2020 at 12:31 am in reply to: Two weeks of loose stools and nightly explosive diarrhea #154223 Report Abuse
Hi Kris M-
It sounds like your pup may have Coccidia or Giardia. Hopefully, both is being are being tested for on your fecal. I would continue on a bland diet using a vet tested probiotic such as Forti Flora or ProPectalin.
I’ve had to treat both Giardia and Coccidia in both cats and dogs. I can feel your pain. Hopefully, something will show up on the fecal so you’ll know how to treat. Our fecal test results are usually back the next day. Good luck!
Hi Kelly A-
I have a cat that has had a urinary blockage and is also on a prescription diet and has not had a recurrence. Thank goodness!!! Have you asked your vet if there is a non chicken food that would work?
I know that Royal Canin, Purina, and Hills all make prescription food. Maybe you could visit their websites and see if any of them make a fish based Urinary Rx food. If yes, see if your vet will give you a prescription to purchase it elsewhere.
Wow! Dr. Dobias’ “treatments” look down right dangerous to me! I would steer clear of his recommendations and snake oil.
I am aware that feeding rials could not guarantee adequate nutrition under all conditions. If a dog has a medical condition, they may need a prescription food or a food without certain ingredients they may have a sensitivity to, etc.
I do not feed WSAVA compliant brands just because of the increase of diet-related DCM. I will continue to feed them even if and when they find the reason behind the increase of this terrible condition. I feel they have been around for a long time and do their due diligence to make sure the foods they are selling are complete and balanced. No need to rotate with other brands. I am sticking with what most veterinarians recommend. I think they have a lot more education, knowledge and experience through all of their patients than we do. Thank you, though.
The FDA actually recommends talking to your vet about your dogs diet with any questions who may consult with a board certified veterinary nutritionist. Howard’s vet recommends steering clear of grain free foods!
There have been no new numbers released since July 2019. So who knows how many new cases there have been?
I am playing it safe and only feeding foods that have been through feeding trials and are formulated by a team of experts. For me, it is either Iams or Purina dry and wet for our dogs and Royal Canin or Purina for our cats.
Check out this site for more information: https://taurinedcm.org/
They are also associated with a very informative FB group, if interested.
Congratulations to you! A beautiful bloodhound, huh? How awesome.
You definitely feed a food that is formulated specifically for a large breed puppy. This will help ensure her joints to grow at a healthy pace.
In my opinion, I would feed either Purina ProPlan or One, Royal Canin, Eukanuba or Hill’s Large Breed Puppy food. Royal Canin might even have a formula specific for bloodhound puppies.
These companies all have done feeding trials on their foods.
I would not feed Acana. It has been associated with Dilated Cardiomyopathy in dogs. Especially larger dogs.
Good luck to you!
Wow! You have done a 180 when it comes to dog food. Welcome to the club! Isn’t it amazing that veterinarians actually know what they are talking about? 😉 Glad to hear you’ve worked out your dog’s allergies. My dogs do fine with corn as well.September 6, 2019 at 10:04 pm in reply to: Curious, what exactly constitutes "Large Breed Puppy" #145957 Report Abuse
Congratulations on your new furry family member! Large breed pups are dogs that will be over 50 or 60 pounds when they are full grown. It doesn’t look like the new puppy will be that big. But, you could always feed a large breed puppy food if you are not sure.
I only feed my pets food that are WSAVA compliant. They are Royal Canin, Eukanuba, Iams, Purina, and Hill’s. They all sell puppy food that would be great for your new addition. I feed my dogs mostly Purina ProPlan. They are doing great! Good luck!
I think that Purina ProPlan Large Breed Puppy would be a better choice. It has the correct calcium and phosphorous to keep your growing puppy’s joints healthy!
Good luck with our precious pup. Labs are the best!August 27, 2019 at 5:54 pm in reply to: FDA names 16 brands of dog food linked to canine heart disease #145457 Report Abuse
The FDA actually does not know what is causing the issue yet. This is taken right from your link:
13. Does the FDA know what it is about these foods that may be connected to canine DCM?
At this time, it is not clear what it is about these diets that may be connected to DCM in dogs. There are multiple possible causes of DCM. Taurine deficiency is well-documented as a potential cause of DCM, but it is not the only cause of DCM. Nutritional makeup of the main ingredients or how dogs process them, main ingredient sourcing, processing, amount used, or other factors could be involved.
There could be a lot of factors involved, not just the ingredients you are listing. You have a lot of 4Health on you list of Ok formulas to feed. Really? What makes you think they can formulate any of their recipes correctly if they cannot get the grain free line safe? Diamond does not even employ one board-certified veterinarian nutritionist as large as they are. Nor, do they do feeding trials.
The FDA states over and over again to consult with your veterinarian or a veterinarian nutritionist. Most are recommending finding a company that is in compliance with WSAVA guidelines. Most of the foods you list do not even come close to meeting them.August 26, 2019 at 3:39 pm in reply to: FDA names 16 brands of dog food linked to canine heart disease #145414 Report Abuse
It would be very nice if there was an outside company that would do the research. But, who do you suppose will pay for it?
As I’ve said many times, I’m sure the veterinary colleges would be glad to accept donations from any company. There is no one stopping Diamond, Champion, Fromm and others from contributing to the cause.
They do not even have experts on their own formulation teams to do any research!
Btw, Joshua Stern’s peer-reviewed study did not accept any money from any dog food companies. It was privately funded.August 26, 2019 at 3:12 pm in reply to: FDA names 16 brands of dog food linked to canine heart disease #145410 Report Abuse
Not to mention, anon101’s favorite reference, The Skept Vet, was one of the first to recognize the increase of dogs not typically associated with DCM turning up with it:
Seems if someone is talking out both sides of their mouth!
What breed is your pup? How big will it get?
Feeding a large breed puppy the correct amount of calcium is of the utmost importance while they are growing. You only get one shot at those growing bones and joints, it has to be right! They are very prone to hip dysplasia and elbow issues if not fed correctly.
For either small or large breed puppy, I would definitely get in touch with a board-certified veterinary nutritionist to help you formulate a raw food. There are some that will work with you.
Rodney Habib does not have the credentials to formulate a complete and balanced diet. Especially, for a large breed puppy.
Eagle Pack is a division of Well Pet, the makers of Wellness.
I would consult with a certified veterinary nutritionist or check out http://www.balanceit.com for homemade balanced recipes.
I use Nordic Naturals or Welactin fish oil for my two along with their kibble with a little canned mixed in. Recommended and approved by their vets.
Fancy Feast is a fine canned cat food. It is probably one of if not the most popular foods sold.
A lot has been learned about the proper way to feed large and giant breed puppies over the last 46 years. Fortunately, large breed puppy food has been formulated now to meet all the needs of the growing joints in big pups. It is no longer necessary or recommended to feed them adult food to slow down growing.
In addition Fromm is one of the brands that the FDA has implicated in the recent increase of dogs being diagnosed with Nutritionally Mediated DCM.
Just a reminder: Foods with grain are not automatically “safe” foods.
Check out this article written by a board-certified veterinarian nutritionist regarding the subject:
I used to feed both Whole Earth Farms and Fromm to my dogs as well. In light of the recent discovery of NM DCM in dogs, I have switched to Purina ProPlan Large Breed Weight Management kibble along with a dollop of ProPlan canned. They are doing great and have even lost some weight! I highly recommend!
Fromm is one of the 16 brands that the FDA implicated in causing Nutritionally Mediated Dilated Cardiomyopathy in dogs. Buyer beware! It was not just their grain free formulas involved. They do not employ or consult with a board-certified animal or veterinarian nutritionist. In addition, they have not done any testing or research in years. Meanwhile adding new untested “exotic” ingredients to their recipes. I will not feed any of their lines of food again!
BDog has been on this site for a long time and I’m sure she will agree with you and does not or will not feed jerky treats or any of the suspect brands implicated with causing DCM either. Her and I both decided to feed WSAVA compliant brands last summer when the first DCM alerts came out.
I’m not sure how you can say that Merrick is fine because it isn’t heavy in peas when it hasn’t been proven that peas are the issue. Plus, it’s tough to know how much are in it by the ingredient label. I certainly hope and don’t that the WSAVA compliant foods are the only safe brands. But, I believe that the other companies need to start doing feeding trials to prove that their recipes are safe also.
Interesting article, Aimee. I wish there was an easy way to decipher what is in the can!July 19, 2019 at 11:32 pm in reply to: FDA names 16 brands of dog food linked to canine heart disease #143517 Report Abuse
Check out this link about corn gluten: https://taurinedcm.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Debunking-Myths-around-Corn-Gluten-Meal_FINAL.pdf
To me, it looks like companies that are jumping on the band wagon trying to get a piece of the pie without having the proper credentials to formulate food. Most of the companies named do not have board-certified veterinary nutritionists on their staff and do not testing or feeding trials. They are using untested ingredients together that are not providing the necessary nutrients and amino acids to our dogs to keep their hearts healthy. It’s not just about ingredients. It is about the whole nutrient package. It apparently is more complicated than I once believed.
Companies like Diamond and Champion certainly have enough resources to hire experts and donate money or do their own research. Yet, they don’t and are making food that is potentially killing our dogs. I wouldn’t be surprised if cats are not far behind!
Yeah, and just a few weeks before that, the list contained many of the foods on the FDAs report. You clearly cannot tell the quality of the food by the ingredient label. You need to find a brand you trust. I would not and do not trust the ratings on this site.
Purina Pro Plan Sensitive Skin and Stomach!
I just visited their website. It would cost $560 per month to feed my two large dogs. Their recipes are full of potatoes, both sweet and white, chickpeas and lentils. Who are their top veterinary nutritionists?
Their food does look delicious to me, but wondering if appropriate for dogs.
Have you tried buying smaller bags? Maybe he is hyper sensitive to the food at the bottom being stale or rancid. My dogs love eating grass and there is nothing wrong with them. I am on a DCM Facebook site where thousands are switching to Purina ProPlan Sensitive Salmon with excellent results. I feed mine Purina PP Large Breed Weight Management and I couldn’t be happier. Good luck!
You are correct! Your new pup should be on a large breed puppy formula to ensure the correct calcium and phosphorus to protect those growing joints. Purina Does have excellent lrg brd puppy formulas. They have a team of experts that have done feeding trials from birth til death on large breeds.
Fromm does not and has not employed a board certified veterinarian for years. Nor do they do feeding trials.
Royal Canin, Eukanuba and Iams are also excellent choices for large breed puppy formulas. I have two golden labs and feed them Purina ProPlan Weight Management.
Check out Chewy.com for all their formulas. Even if you do not order from them, they have a good search feature.
Have fun with that new bundle of joy! He is going to keep you busy!
Fromm is also being implicated with causing DCM (both with and without grain) in Dr. Stern’s peer-reviews study and a group of veterinarians that are keeping track of the foods that are being fed when dogs are diagnosed. Zignature and Acana have the most cases so far. Fromm a pretty close third.
Check out: https://www.facebook.com/groups/TaurineDCM/
I feed my two Lab/Golden mix dogs Purina ProPlan Large Breed Weight Management with great results. It has 374 calories per cup, but is fairly low in fat and a little higher in fiber. They have several formulas that might work for you. The ProPlan salmon formula is a little higher in calories, but the Purina One Salmon may be a little lower.
Make sure you measure out the food carefully and cut back on treats. Royal Canin has large breed formulas that are lower in calories as well. Good idea to keep his weight down now. It is a lot easier on the joints and could possibly lead to a longer life if there are no other health conditions. Best wishes!
I consider my dogs to have sensitive systems, maybe even a touch of colitis. They do better with higher fiber. That is why I’m surprised that sensitive digestion formulas are almost always lower than average in fiber. Any thoughts on this, Aimee?
Very interesting study. Makes me want to look for a food with oat groats! I imagine after the grinding and cooking of all the ingredients, it makes them more digestible as well as making the nutrients they contain more readily available.
Good stuff! 😊
I guess the main thing I take from the WSAVA recommendations is that you need to check out the company who is making the dog food you purchase. Regardless if they can meet all the recommendations or not. Choose the ones that are important to you. You really cannot tell the quality of a dog food by the ingredient label. I’m done now.
This is a good example why you cannot judge a food by the ingredient label. You don’t know how the ingredients are processed, how they all work together, how much of each is in the food nor the quality of them.
You need to choose a food from a company that you trust knows how to do all of the above appropriately.
Amen, Sister BDog!
Above is the link to WSAVA’s recommendations to select dog food. Wondering which of the recommendations you two don’t think is important? As you have stated, they do not make any specific brand recommendations, just helpful advice for consumers to choose a food.
Also, can you tell me why companies such as Champion, Fromm, Diamond and others do not do their own or contribute to any type of research or testing. Wouldn’t you rather the brand you choose have done some controlled feeding trials to determine the digestibility of their formulas rather than on your dogs? It’s not like these are small ma and pa companies.
I praise the big companies for parting with some of their profits to help fund research veterinary schools.
I hope you find a safe food that works for your dogs.
Hmmm? Anon, I thought you were against meaningless asymptomatic screenings. 🤔
I agree! And, I used to look at them. But, thankfully, now I know better!
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Try contacting American Pet Nutrition. They make PetSmart’s Authority brand.
Ok, Joanne, those are two complaints out of millions of bags of Purina sold. These problems are most likely happening at the storage facility or at the home.
I’ve been feeding it consistently now for about 10 months. I have bought it from Petco, PetSmart and/or Chewy. Never once have I had any bugs in their kibble.
In fact, I’ve never had any bugs in any bag of kibble of any brand in the over 30 years that I’ve had dogs and cats. It really sounds like you are looking for a reason not to feed Purina to me. Don’t feed it then. Feed something that you are comfortable with the brand’s history and and manufacturing practices. Good luck!
That write up is full of falsehoods. What credentials does the writer have? Do they sell pet food?
I think it just says what you wanted to hear. I’d rather stick with the scientists researching this issue’s facts .
Don’t worry about the DFA star rating! Especially not for a dog with a medical condition. I feed my dogs Purina ProPlan Large Breed Weight Management. I feel that it should be rated a 10 for my dogs.
I don’t agree with the rating system on this site. You can use the information to rate the food however you want. Purina is a good company that has been around for years. They use a team of experts to formulate their food. Good luck!May 24, 2019 at 1:41 pm in reply to: My dog had Silica stones removed from the bladder and has GI issues #138738 Report Abuse
My cat had a urinary blockage with struvite crystals. He’s been on Royal Canin Rx food ever since. He is doing great!