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I periodically find small bags of cat food as free samples. My dogs love it! I also use Charlee Bears.

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Evo?

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Yes, Aimee, would you tell me which company’s product you use? Those issues concern me too. I can always add extra fresh meat if I feel it’s necessary.

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Last week I specifically asked my vet about pork in dog food. Back in the day I had always heard don’t feed pork to your dog so I was skeptical to see it being sold. She said it’s perfectly fine because it’s de-fatted. Reo has food sensitivities so I’m looking for another novel protein for him. Pork will be my next choice.

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Is 4Health available at Tractor Supply? How does that price compare? Try chewy.com, they have good prices and free shipping with minimum purchase ($49 I think).

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Check out Addiction foods for novel proteins.

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Also consider giving her a cooked egg a few times a week. Very high in nutrition and they’re cheap!

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Check out this page. Pure Balance brand and Rachael Ray’s Nutrish are available at Walmart and are lower priced. Nutrisource is lower priced too
/best-dog-foods/best-puppy-foods/best-dry-puppy-foods-4-star/

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I’ve run in to similar situations at the dog park. I’ve given up trying to educate people. In your case I think it’s more difficult because it’s a family situation. Try and remember the dogs aren’t the most important thing. Sometimes it’s best to keep them separate or leave them home just to keep the peace. Not everyone thinks like we do!

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weruva

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How about baby carrots or green beans?

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Has he been tested for EPI? I had the same issue with my rescue dog. Luckily he tested negative for EPI. His issue is food intolerance. He is now eating Royal Canin PV (potato and venison). He is absolutely thriving on that. Some people may bad mouth the Royal Canin brand but when your dog has a health issue you use what works. After a few months on this, when he had gained his weight, I gradually tried Natural Balance Venison and sweet potato, and that is working just fine too.

Studies were done that showed that many OTC single protein foods had other unnamed proteins in them. Thats why I felt it was important to start this process with an RX food to find what works.

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My local “good” pet food store has someone every Saturday distributing samples. They usually give out coupons too.

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I have been feeding the canned Nutrisource. The dogs are doing well on it and it’s budget friendly too.

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Whole Dog Journal reviewed that a while back and they liked it but I don’t know if it would be beneficial for pancreatitis.

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Definitely keeping Nature’s Logic in my rotation.

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Is that different from copper proteinate and copper amino acid chelate?

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I went to a seminar given by Dr. Jean Dodds and she did say most OTC single protein foods are contaminated by an unnamed protein. That could make do it yourself elimination diets quite tricky. Consider trying the Rx foods first and when your dog responds well to the chosen protein, then you can try another brand. My dog started on Royal Canin PV (potato and venison). After being on that for 3 months I tried Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato and he is doing well on that. It’s half the price of the RC and a little higher in protein. Remember when judging whether a food is good or not, you have to determine whether your dog does well on it. If your dog does well on it, then it is a good food for YOUR dog.

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It has whey protein concentrate in it. Interesting, I couldn’t find it on the NV website but found it on Chewy.

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What do you think is the ideal protein percentage for the different life stages?

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I also question why an MRI and not an ultrasound. I am no expert but I know when I’ve needed testing for my heart it was either echocardiogram (ultrasound) or EKG. I don’t know what an MRI would show. Perhaps ask specifically what they are looking to learn and what an MRI will tell them?

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I used this for my previous dog. It did work and she did just fine on it. It was about 10-15 years ago and we never did allergy testing so I don’t know what she was allergic to.

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Cheryl,

Have you had a consult with Dr. Becker? She does phone consults. Maybe there’s a holistic vet in your area you can consult with. http://www.ahvma.org

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I use it in my rotation. I don’t have it right now but I will order it again. I just have a backlog of other foods right now…..

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I had a Shih-Tzu that developed a wart on her face when she got older. It would get infected and look like that. I had it removed when she was 13. She did very well. It had become a real nuisance and she was constantly rubbing her face on things and oozing and gross. I think if it wasn’t such a nuisance I would have left it alone.

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Akari,

How old is Ginger?

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I feed them to my dogs raw, they love them.

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Oh, BTW, I use the canned. Although he did start with part kibble and did fine. Canned is my preference.

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He started with Royal Canin Potato and Venison. It’s prescription through the vet. He was eating that exclusively for about 3 months and did wonderfully, gained weight, etc. After that time I started adding in Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato. I slowly worked up to half and half of each and he’s still doing fine. I prefer the NB because it’s higher in protein and has the sweet potato instead of white potato. It’s also half the price of the RC.

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This sounds similar to what happened to my dog. I got him from a rescue at age 3. He was thin when I got him, was feeding him generous quantities of food and he was pooping like a cow. Large, soft stinky stools. After 3 months I realized he had lost a pound. He was only 11 pounds when I got him. Off to the vet…….now he’s on a restricted diet, potato and venison. He’s strong like a little bull now. Vet said it’s a true food allergy. We will try rabbit next. I know beef and turkey are no good for him. Many foods have multiple proteins in them which makes it difficult to determine the problem.

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Nutrisource is a good food and it’s known to be good for dogs with sensitive stomachs.

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Congratulations!

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I’m using Darwins raw, rotating with several different types of canned. It is messy, though so it may cause more problems than it solves as far as messy faces are concerned.

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Are you talking about eye staining? My Havanese had eye staining as a youngster. I switched him to canned food and used Angels Eyes. It worked very well. Since then I’ve tried kibble on 2 separate occasions, good quality, Orijen and Farmina, and both times the eye staining came back. So, Angels Eyes to get rid of it and good quality canned or raw to keep it away.

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I wonder who makes the canned?

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I believe in the state of New Jersey it’s a law that dogs must be restrained while driving in the car.

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OK, I’ll jump in here. You’re right, Linda, there is no straight answer. First of all, I don’t feed kibble. I think it’s too processed, too high in carbs and not species appropriate. But then I have 2 small dogs and not 3 big ones so that keeps finances more out of the decision.

For one dog, I feed him a combo of Darwin’s raw and a few types of canned I like. Fromm, Whole Earth Farms, Nature’s Instinct and Ziwipeak are my favorites. I also add in fresh human food when available. Plain meat and cooked veggies.

My other dog has food intolerances so he is now eating Royal Canin potato and venison canned food. If you had told me a year ago I would feed this I would have said you were crazy but it’s been a savior for him. After 3 months on this I’m slowly adding other brands of venison food to see how it works for him.

So, it is a matter of what works best for each individual dog. You read and learn and makes some choices of good quality foods, and see what works!

BTW, is there really a food that labs won’t eat? LOL!

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So far, beef and turkey, but still investigating.

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“Natural” has no real legal definition. The only way I know to avoid GMO ingredients is to buy “certified organic” products.

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I got my dog from a rescue at age 2 1/2. At that time the vet said he was underweight. He was 12 lbs, she said she’d like to see him at 13 or 14 lbs. His ribs and hip bones were prominent. I started him on the rotational diet I’m feeding my other dog(different brands, proteins, raw, canned,dried). He developed large,loose stools(cow patty type). I tried to figure what was bothering him. Was it the lamb, carageenan? Couldn’t figure it out. When I clipped his hair down for the hot weather and saw how thin he still was, weighed him and saw he had actually lost a half a pound, to the vet we went. She tested him for EPI and that was negative, so suggested we start with the limited ingredient diet. It’s working wonderfully for him, his poops are normal, he’s holding steady at 14 lbs. But I’m a DFA dogfoodie! I want some alternatives for him. I asked the vet to try the potato and rabbit but she wants me to wait for that another 3 months. He does like the food, so that’s not a problem.

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Hi CMZ,

I just found this thread and was wondering how things are going with your dog? I have a rescue dog that is now eating the RC Potato and Venison and it is working very well for him, frankly, it’s a god-send! I am using a combo of the dry and canned. Did you try the canned? One thing I see is these foods seem to be very low in fat and I’m wondering if that has any bearing on the situation? I think the RC rx foods are a higher quality than what RC sells to the general public. But I would like to find some alternatives so he’s not eating the same thing day after day. We’re going to try the potato and rabbit but would also like alternatives of another brand.

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I thin slice chicken cutlets and dry them in the oven. 200 degrees until they’re dry and crisp. Very thin slices. Also I buy top round steak (beef) when it’s on sale, bake in the oven whole till it’s cooked through, cool it down, slice thin, then dry the slices in the oven. I use lamb lung too!

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Are you giving him the enzymes?

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Try canned if they have trouble chewing. But not from the grocery store.

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Darwin’s free trial is a great deal! I use that as part of our rotation, now.

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Word on fermented veggies, BDN has them! http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2014/08/31/pet-fermented-vegetables.aspx?e_cid=20140831Z1_PetsNL_art_1&utm_source=petnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20140831Z1&et_cid=DM54918&et_rid=641772839

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Yes, Neezer is for Havanese. I have 2!

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Sandy already did that, see the previous page.

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Oh, I didn’t get mine yet!

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