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  • crazy4cats
    Participant

    Check out http://www..balanceit.com for recipes and supplements. It is run by board certified vet nutritionists. You can build your own recipes for free if your dog has no health issues and does not need a vet’s approval. It’s a little confusing at first, but it’s well worth the time to figure out a recipe and buy their supplements to make it truly complete and balanced. Good luck!

    Sheila R
    Member

    4dogmom,
    I know this is a late reply but just found the website. I just started feeding my two Chocolate Labs homemade food one is 120 lbs and the other is 88 lbs. They were on Blue for years and with all the law suits I decided enough is enough, to make my own. I have a great Turkey and Veg with Rice recipe but need a vitamin supplement, trying to make a working Mom ‘s life a little easier. I saw Dinovite looked good any thoughts? Also I need to add a kibble, this is getting expensive. Any recommendations for a crunch?

    Thanks,
    Sheila

    Lori H
    Participant

    Hi Wendy,

    I worked with a man named Rick Scheyer. He has an amazing website http://www.doglivershunt.com He has helped many dogs with liver shunt, kidney disease, bladder stone problems and much, much more become healthy dogs again. I would suggest reaching out to him for a free consultation. My dog was diagnosed with multiple problems (liver failure, bladder stones, Diabetes, and possible Cushing’s Disease) last May and as of today, he is a healthy, happy, 10 year old dog who is no longer in liver failure. He was placed on a real food diet along with supplements and he is completely healthy.

    Cancer is a whole different issue, but I trust that Rick will point you in a direction where he can help or he will let you know who might.

    Good luck on your journey with your fur child.

    Lori

    Wendy E
    Member

    Need help saving my dog with an aggressive cancer cells that replicate quickly. Real food diet and supplements. Surgery removed a mass two weeks ago and got it all but mew bump is forming. Don’t want to do chemo.

    #112181
    a c
    Member

    I know some people use Dasuquin with MSM for joint supplement and arthritis pain.

    You can find soft doggie steps at Marshall or TJ Maxx at discounted price.

    #112180
    CK C
    Member

    I have a dog with IBD who is currently on a special homemade diet. We are hoping to transition him to a store-bought dog food at some point. He needs a simple ingredient food that is pork based. He is allergic to poultry and fish. Our local store recommended a new Horizon brand dog food that is pork meal based called Taiga. I can’t find reviews of it anywhere.

    It’s 13% fat, which is great for my dog, who needs a lower fat diet.

    I would appreciate any help with this quest! Does this look OK for food?

    Here are the ingredients:

    INGREDIENTS
    PORK MEAL, RED LENTILS, PEAS, GARBANZO BEANS, PEA STARCH, PORK, ALFALFA MEAL, CANOLA OIL, CARROTS, APPLES, BROCCOLI, BOK CHOY, CABBAGE, BLUEBERRIES, CALCIUM CARBONATE, SALT, DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE, FRUCTOOLIGOSACCHARIDES, YUCCA SCHIDIGERA EXTRACT, DRIED ASPERGILLUS NIGER FERMENTATION EXTRACT, PINEAPPLE, DRIED TRICHODERMA LONGIBRACHIATUM FERMENTATION EXTRACT, DRIED ENTEROCOCCUS FAECIUM FERMENTATION PRODUCT, DRIED LACTOBACILLUS CASEI FERMENTATION PRODUCT, DRIED LACTOBACILLUS ACIDOPHILUS FERMENTATION PRODUCT, DRIED BIFIDOBACTERIUM BIFIDUM FERMENTATION PRODUCT, DRIED LACTOBACILLUS PLANTARUM FERMENTATION PRODUCT, VITAMIN A ACETATE, VITAMIN D3 SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN E SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT, RIBOFLAVIN, NIACIN, FOLIC ACID, PYRIDOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, D-CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, BIOTIN, L-ASCORBYL-2-POLYPHOSPHATE (SOURCE OF VITAMIN C), FERROUS SULPHATE, IRON PROTEINATE, ZINC SULPHATE, ZINC PROTEINATE, MANGANOUS OXIDE, MANGANESE PROTEINATE, COPPER SULPHATE, COPPER PROTEINATE, CALCIUM IODATE, SELENIUM YEAST, MAGNESIUM OXIDE.

    #112176
    anonymous
    Member

    Just check the ingredients on both supplements recommended in the above posts.
    If you have even a hint (just a smidge) of medical knowledge. That should be enough to discourage you from using.

    #112167
    Cathy B
    Member

    Hi weezerweeks –
    I have 2 Chihuahua’s one will be 15 Y/O in 3 wks that weighs 5 lbs. Other one prob older than that as he was a rescue 10 yrs ago that weighs 9 lbs. I saw they both esp my tiny one was having Arthritis pain. And I mean pain. It was horrible.

    Vet put him on pain meds and like you, I always go as natural and healthy as I can for my pets. I researched and researched and came across AniMed Hip Help. Every site I looked at for this product had GREAT reviews. I found it at my feed store for a good size bottle for maybe $10. I emailed company w/ questions and within minutes got a reply.
    I use nothing from China or any ingred that can hurt them.
    It’s a power that looks and smells like a vanilla protein shake. Product will last a long time.

    I can’t even tell you how much it helped them! My tiny one was holding head down, spine curved and walking with a gait. Also take a look at DR. Judy Morgan’s web site.
    She’s all for natural healthy ways to care for pets and sales products.

    And I agree with anon about the jumping on and off. That makes a world of difference if he’l use pet steps. I’ve read great things about Tumeric. I don’t give fish oil supplements
    but feed sardines in spring water a few days a wk.

    Hope he feels better soon šŸ™‚

    #112166
    Cathy B
    Member

    Hi weezerweeks –
    I have 2 Chihuahua’s one will be 15 Y/O in 3 wks that weighs 5 lbs. Other one prob older than that as he was a rescue 10 yrs ago that weighs 9 lbs. I saw they both esp my tiny one was having Arthritis pain. And I mean pain. It was horrible.

    Vet put him on pain meds and like you, I always go as natural and healthy as I can for my pets. I researched and researched and came across AniMed Hip Help. Every site I looked at for this product had GREAT reviews. I found it at my feed store for a good size bottle for may $10. I emailed company w/ questions and within minutes got a replay.
    I use nothing from China or any ingred that can hurt them.
    It’s a power that looks and smells like a vanilla protein shake. Product will last a long time.

    I can’t even tell you how much it helped them! My tiny one was holding head down, spine curved and walking with a gait. Also take a look at DR. Judy Morgan’s web site.
    She’s all for natural healthy ways to care for pets and sales products.

    And I agree with anon about the jumping on and off. That makes a world of difference if he’l use pet steps. I’ve read great things about Tumeric. I don’t give fish oil supplements
    but feed sardines in spring water a few days a wk.

    Hope he feels better soon šŸ™‚

    #112162
    anonymous
    Member

    Sounds good to me. As long as the dog is not experiencing any unpleasant side effects.
    I am not aware of any supplement that could come close.

    http://www.metacamfordogs.com/ excerpt below.

    Metacam©​ is a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID). Metacam works by reducing hormones that cause pain and inflammation in the body. Metacam is used to reduce pain, inflammation and stiffness as a result of acute and chronic musculoskeletal disorders such as osteoarthritis.

    For: Dogs (over the age of 6 months)

    Benefits:
    Effectively treats pain and inflammation for up to 24 hours
    Gives your dog more mobility
    Comes with a graduated syringe, with weight measurements, that easily and accurately dispenses the correct amount of oral suspension
    Can be administered directly into your dog’s mouth, or mixed in your dog’s food

    #112161
    anonymous
    Member

    Don’t allow him to step up and down, buy doggie steps for every couch and bed that he goes to. Google “doggie steps” to see the different styles.
    Don’t let the dog jump in and out of the car, pick him up. It may take a couple of weeks but you will see a difference in his gait and posture.

    Any effective medication has possible side effects. The risks versus benefits have to be weighed. Usually the benefit of pain relief is well worth it.
    Supplements are not medication and will have no effect on pain. Not all supplements are benign and also can have possible ill effects.
    Emergency room visits are way up due to humans taking supplements and having adverse effects, some quite serious. Supplements are not FDA approved, sometimes the ingredients or dosage amounts are not accurate.
    That being said, some supplements may have benefits, but one has to be very cautious.
    Also, some supplements may interact and interfere with the absorption of real medication.
    Best to discuss with the vet, first.

    #112158
    weezerweeks
    Participant

    My yorkie is having pain jumping up and down. He holds his head down and is in pain. His back x-ray showed nothing. My vet put him on metacam. It is working but I hate medicine but I don’t want him in pain. Does anyone know of a safe supplement for pain. He’s on joint supplement and fish oil. Would Tumeric help. Any ideas would be appreciated.

    #112101

    In reply to: No Hide Chews

    aimee
    Participant

    Why didn’t I think of this before? My friend is a taxidermist. I asked him if I could tan a rawhide. He said I should be able to do it and advised hydrating it in a non iodized salt bath. He told me to let it dry out a bit until just damp then apply tanning solution to both sides of the hide and wrap in plastic wrap for 24 hours to soak in, then let it dry. I used Deer Hunters Tanning Oil from a local sporting goods store and I also tried my hand at egg yolk tanning,

    I purchased a known rawhide and successfully tanned it! It looks like a light tan piece of suede. It really is quite pretty. Next I bought an Earth Animal cough cough “No Hide” chew. I hydrated that and then tanned it. It tanned up beautifully! Main thing when tanning is that as the hide is drying you have to continually pull the hide. This is so it stays supple. I showed the results to the taxidermist he was amazed how well it came out!

    For the egg yolk tanning I found videos on how to do this on you tube. I tanned a piece of the Earth Animal chew this way as well. It took longer to dry but again came out pretty well. No reason anyone couldn’t do this. I’d recommend using one of the thinner thickness chews for tanning.

    #112099
    GAby R
    Member

    Yes the dog was examined by 3 vets and the blood work was reviewed by them all. So I would not say that they try to sell me things as I am actually going to purchase the supplement on my own from organic store.

    I don’t understand why you are rude. You don’t need to believe in supplements but everyone is entitled to their opinion and I don’t appreciate you being so negative when you don’t know my pet or her vet.

    I just joined this website. But I didn’t realize this website is not for advise but to attack other people.

    I will be removing myself from this website. Because my dog is my world and money is not an object for me. She is very well taken care of and has wellness test every year.

    #112098
    anonymous
    Member

    “I think everyone is allowed to their opinion on here. Thank you both for your feedback. I really appropriate it. I am not too concern about thr milk thiesel. I know people that tried it on their dog and it has great benefits. I am not a 100 percent sure what if I will be doing that but I have gotten 3 opinions and all 3 vets said they it was safe for my dog. They do not recommend large dosage. As far as dog food. I will try different one from instinct. This is a vet high quality food and it has great reviews. Thanks everyone for your feedback”

    Have the 3 vets actually examined your dog? Just as I thought. Probably homeopathic vet sites selling miracle cures.

    I think you should be concerned about supplements, most of them are a waste of money. And, they can cause harm.

    Best of luck.

    #112090
    anonymous
    Member

    Thanks for providing your input. Even if it is incorrect. You may want to read the “commenting policy” here at this site.

    Personal attacks are discouraged.

    I find it comical that you are calling a board certified veterinarian’s opinion based on scientific research or lack of, false.

    If any vet that I went to suggested I try milk thistle on a dog (especially a senior). I would immediately find another vet.
    Not all supplements are benign.

    PS: I took the stuff myself once, years ago. I vomited within 2 hours. The crap smells horrid.
    The OP’s vet must be “homeopathic”.
    No thank you!

    • This reply was modified 8 years ago by anonymous.
    #112028
    Rick W
    Member

    I forgot I didn’t provide this group an update. I wanted to let everyone know that we solved the riddle in case others are needing the same help. I stumbled across what some might consider a ā€œhole in the wallā€ pet shop but inside that shop was a couple whose passion are your pets and solving riddles like what we were dealing with. When I described everything to her, she put our dog on a different food with different supplements. By the way, I forgot to mention above that he was dealing with bad eye drainage too which I didn’t know was relevant until she asked. Bottom line?? He is allergic to chicken and everything we were feeding him had chicken in it. We are now on a the large breed puppy food from NutriSource whose main proteins are turkey and whitefish. It’s grain-free as well. She also changed his probiotic from ProPlan version to a brand called Herbsmith. The specific probiotic is Microflora Plus. Last, we were giving him canned pumpkin and she suggested a more concentrated version (dehydrated) that we sprinkle on his food. The brand is Super Snouts and the product is called Pumpkin Latte. It’s a mixture of pumpkin and whole goat’s milk.

    Soon after switching over, he was much better and he no longer has all that drainage in his eyes. Glad we found her!

    #111981
    Lori H
    Participant

    Hi Simone,

    My dog Buddy has been through a lot, much like your dog. He just turned 10 and during his life he has had surgery on his spleen, surgery for bladder stones, been diagnosed with Diabetes and I was told by my vet that he was suffering from liver failure and was preparing me for the fact that Buddy was going to die. The liver failure diagnosis was 10 months ago and today, he is healthy, happy, looks amazing and has so much energy.

    I now believe wholeheartedly that most vets know nothing about nutrition. They are told to carry a line of food in their offices by one of the large pharma/dog food companies because most of these companies go out and recruit at the vet universities across the United States when vets are in school and provide them with a kickback when the sell either Science Diet or Royal Canin in their clinics, up to 40%. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my vet, I just don’t believe he knows much of anything about nutrition. He has been great to me, my dog Buddy and my three cats. He is good at what he does, diagnose and perform much needed surgeries and procedures. He did Buddy’s bladder stone surgery which has complications.

    I was at my wits end as well and thought that I was going to lose Buddy, but I was not willing to give up so I did a Google search and found an amazing person who brought Buddy back to the healthy dog he is.

    Buddy is on a very special diet and he has made huge strides in the last 6+ months. He is a very healthy dog to what he was 6 months ago.

    I worked with a man named Rick Scheyer. He has an amazing website http://www.doglivershunt.com He has helped many dogs with liver shunt, kidney disease, bladder stone problems and much, much more become healthy dogs again. I would suggest reaching out to him for a free consultation.

    If you choose to go with his program, it is not cheap, but I believe that over time, I will save money by not taking Buddy to the vet time and time again because I don’t know what is wrong and having a battery of tests run and racking up bills in the thousands, I have been there!

    He was slowly weened off of his processed food Science Diet U/D and placed on a diet of fresh veggies and meat based on a very slow transition to follow with Rick’s help.

    Buddy’s diet is a balance of ¾ veggies to ¼ meats. Dogs with liver issues do not need as much protein as you would expect. He gets lots of yellow veggies (squash, tomatoes, peppers, cucumber, celery, carrots, Brussel sprouts, snap peas, etc.) along with hemp oil and nori blended with goat yogurt into almost a smoothie consistency. I then add meats, liver is great as it helps to detoxify the liver (funny that you feed liver to a dog with liver issuesJ) and then he gets a variety of supplements. He receives three gut supplements in the morning (Acidophilus, Bifudus and a Spectrabiotic) along with an Enzyme and something called Whole Body. In the evenings he gets the Enzyme, Whole Body and a Mushroom supplement. The process to make his food is not that time consuming and if you are at your wits end like I was, I was ready to do anything.

    He also gets to have as much goat yogurt as he wants with coconut oil. He also gets sweet potato chews and coconut slices.

    He is also allowed to eat fruits, not during his morning and evening meals since they digest differently than veggies, but he has not yet warmed up to them yet. I don’t know if he ever will.

    He is doing great! He has so much energy and the numbers don’t lie! I got a glucose meter and I am going to start checking his levels daily. I would really like to get him off the insulin if I can. I believe the medicine is what causes the blindness, not the actual diabetes, my vet believes otherwise.

    My vet has not said much of anything. I explained I was taking him off the prescription food and putting him on this program and he never responded. When I took him in the last time for blood work, I think he was surprised Buddy was doing so well, but did not ask me further about what I was doing. He is a pretty straight and narrow vet and I don’t think he looks outside the box. If Buddy’s glucose numbers continue to decline, I will take him back and back off on the number of units he is given. Now it is just maintenance and keeping a spreadsheet and monitoring how he is doing.

    I suggest reaching out. I think Rick saved Buddy’s life. I took him to the vet in October to have blood work done and he is perfectly healthy!

    Let me know if I can be of anymore help.

    Good luck on your search and reach out if you have further questions or concerns. It was hard to take the jump and trust someone other than my vet with my dogs nutritional health, but I am so glad that I did.

    Lori

    #111915
    Sarah G
    Member

    My medium golden mix, Lakita, just started having issues once she turned 3 years old.
    – We moved from Virginia to Md (3 hour difference) and had recently changed her diet when it started happening.
    – She was originally on Rachel Ray Just Six Lamb and was changed over to Nutro Wholesome Essentials Lamb when our other dog was having sensitive stomach issues.
    – Lakita does not scoot, but she will lick and chew the area constantly and she “screams” when she poops. She is a bit of a drama queen, and tends to cry very loudly when she’s unhappy or overly happy (like a stereotypical husky). The vet exclaimed that she isn’t in pain, just discomfort and is loudly letting us know this – but I do think she’s in at least some pain.
    – The vet has over one year preformed tests to determine that the issue is definitely her anal glands. They have never been infected, but are constantly full. Even after expressing, Lakita will still cry when she poops.
    – Fiber supplements helped a little. I changed her back to her original Rachel Ray food plus the fiber supplement and it finally went away for about 4 – 6 months.
    – After the supplement ran out and I was hoping she would normalize, she began having issues again. When I started giving the supplement to her, it didn’t help.
    – We’ve had her glands expressed around 4 -5 times throughout the year until she began to feel better. When it came back we did it again, but it doesn’t seem to have an actual affect.
    – It would seem to be seasonal since it basically when away on its own, but she never had the issue in Virginia just 3 hours away. And she has stayed in MD here in there with family sometimes for a couple weeks without issues.

    I honestly think diet is the biggest factor and I’m thinking of switching to Grain Free food – but I’m a little nervous to do so with all the recalls lately. Does anyone have suggestions? Especially ones without recall history would be most appreciated.

    #111780
    Cathryn C
    Member

    Thanks so much Christi for the information. You truly went above and beyond with this information and the links. I am going to try these supplements with Tank and I pray they work like they did for your sisters dog. Thanks again. And may God bless you all.

    #111769
    Christi G
    Member

    Get Dandelion root supplements for the bloating… I actually take it myself – maya’s not really overly bloated so she’s not getting it but she did bloat for a few days and that’s when I ordered it – more for me – not Maya. It has a lot of medicinal benefits and is cheap. For a dog your size, I would do 2 of these in the morning (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002IWCLU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1) . I’ve read great things about it and my I don’t have any bloating myself. Also, give him ginger supplements for his nausea. Maya’s doing well but my sister wanted to wean her back on to her dry food. Is your dog on a probiotic? I suggest this because it chock full of supplements and vitamins and dogs love the taste. One tub will last you about 2.5 months: http://www.gnc.com/dog-multivitamins/341085.html?mrkgcl=1098&mrkgadid=3200889428&rkg_id=h-876542dade62516db72bd07b9aef859c_t-1520201684&product_id=341085&flagtype=brand&vendor=none&channel=ppc&adpos=1o1&creative=189757865686&device=c&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAiAz-7UBRBAEiwAVrz-9e9uY6iLC8kTrcBew5YVlkiombzLsfzn7aJnIzn5CfR4ZM51zItEJhoCYCgQAvD_BwE

    Maya is getting much less food at her normal meals because I’m home to give her the mini meals. I think that has prevented the bloating as well. She’s about 58lbs – she gets about 1/3 cup of her dry food, 1/2 cup of white rice (the GNC supplement mixes well with the rice) and about 1/3 of a large boiled chicken breast for b’fast and dinner. For lunch and late dinner she gets green beans (about 1/3 cup) and more of the same amount of chicken. My sister asked to not give her the CLA or coconut oil any longer but I truly feel it was beneficial. She gained about 3 lbs and was highly energetic… but she’s doing well now just lost a little weight. šŸ™ I had to step back and realize this was not my dog but my sister’s and her wishes are what I need to abide by… but the info from this post is what she is currently getting and I still think the info from my last post was good info. If you start your dog on coconut oil – which I would not do at this point – maybe if you can get his health under control then you can (maybe a 1/2 tbsp in the AM for his size – but start out at 1/4 tbsp for a few days as he will get diarrhea if you start him out on too much to soon… that didn’t happen with Maya but it did with me last year when I started taking coconut oil!). Maybe if you give him a normal breakfast and then an early smaller dinner and then a mini meal (I mean, were talking green beans and rice and chicken – much less than your dry food) around 7 or 8, it will help. I’m personally not a fan of any dry food but fromm’s and it’s very expensive but when I see things like meat by-product and meat parts on the side of a bag of food that costs almost $100 (a very large bag) it just pisses me off! As far as the CLA, I would just puncture and squeeze out the liquid onto his food – just one in the AM (this is the one I gave maya: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT0OT71/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

    PLEASE REMEMBER – I AM NOT A VET OR A DOCTOR OF ANY KIND AND AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT OR HOW YOU USE THE INFORMATION I HAVE GIVEN. I am only sharing my own experiences over the past 3 months since Maya was taken off her meds…. I think she’s better off without them. I mean, who wants to take chemo meds for the rest of their lif?

    I think VETs get overly invested in “specialty” dry dog food without really even knowing the shit-crap they put in that food and in prescribing meds without doing any other research involving natural supplements.

    FIRST thing though – you need to get him on a probiotic. That can help “even out” what’s going on in his gut… and that has a positive effect on other things. AND get the Dandelion Root. Order through amazon with the links I gave you and if you don’t have it, sign up for a trial prime account so you can get them within 2 days! Also, with the GNC supplement/probiotic powder, you can sign up for auto delivery and get it for $18… just go back and either cancel the auto-delivery later and/or change the delivery to like 2 months or so based on your dogs usage. Given his weight, the tub will last you at least 2.5 months. Read the directions and start out with a smaller dose for a few days and then the whole dose once his body is used to it. I would not do coconut oil until you get his bloating and throwing up under control. I truly hope this helps… and I hope vets will start taking a more holistic approach to treating dogs… and instead of insisting on dog food that they sell, think about how simple meals with good supplements can benefit the dog… and not how the vet’s dog food can supplement their bank accounts!

    #111764
    Cathryn C
    Member

    How much of these supplements would I give to a 25 pound French bulldog? He was gaining weight and now has lost 1.1 lb in the last 2 weeks. He is on Hills Science diet z/d and takes 1 pill (budesonide) every day. I totally don’t know what to feed him or how much of anything to give him. He has been throwing up a little off and on for the last 2 weeks so it did not surprise me his weight was down again. Our vet could do no more for him so we saw a specialist. Cleansing with white rice and cottage cheese for a week, half z/d and white rice for another week then all dog food. I did keep giving him a little of the white rice with his food since he liked it. And no people food ever. Everything was going along well for about 2 months but now he is back peddling. I believe his situation is becoming dire at this point. I can’t give him extra meals because I do have to work to pay for all of this. 3.5 more years. He won’t last that long at this rate. He is almost 6 years old. I need some help or advice. It is almost dinner time and I dread giving him the same old thing and expecting a different result. At my wits end. Ty

    #111734
    Kathleen Q
    Member

    There are many people using Ubquinol and Hawthorne supplements on their dogs with heart issues and they say their dog is doing better. Just checking here as this is an informative site. Hoping someone has some input on this.

    #111730
    Lynelle V
    Member

    Christi G.,
    Thank you so much for sharing the post above. Our situation sounds exactly like Maya’s. We were just told by our vet that there is little left to do with Daisy. She is the same weight as Maya. I feel so bad for her. Her poor bloated belly and the rest of her, barely there is heartbreaking. I shared your post with my vet and he said to immediately start this with her. I just needed to know how much food and supplements did you give to Maya and at which meals? I saw her breakfast menu, but not the others. Also, how much of each supplement did you use? I saw that you mentioned CLA. Where did you get that? I don’t have much time as Daisy has really gone downhill fast even though she has been on all the drugs and she has been on Royal Canin’s g/i canned food with extra chicken and rice thrown in. Please respond as I desperately need some precise information. If it worked for Maya, maybe it could work for us. Thanks. I appreciate it!

    #111694
    Kathleen J
    Member

    My almost 3 year-old Shichon has chronic anal gland problems. I have him on a grain-free diet and have changed his food a few times (Blue, American Journey, Merrick, etc.). None of the diet changes worked. I’m going to try the supplements in this thread. Thanks for the info!

    #111687
    Kathleen Q
    Member

    I tried to look up on that link you gave me and call me stupid but what I did see I could not understand. Molly saw a vet today for a paw she has been licking like crazy. He said her heart murmur is #4 out of 6. But believe me he had no knowledge of what to feed her or supplement her with.

    #111683
    anonymous
    Member

    Go here, skeptvet dot com You can ask a question. Real vets tend to participate.
    Use the search engine there to look up herbs and supplements.

    #111681
    anonymous
    Member

    That may or may not be true, however there are a lot of things that you can do to keep her comfortable.
    I would not rule out prescription medication.

    Most heart murmurs in small dogs are benign (especially seniors).
    Often it is age related.
    If the condition was concerning I am sure your veterinarian would have recommended medication or referred you to a specialist.
    Most supplements are scams and are a waste of money.
    Any symptoms?
    Most of my small breeds had heart murmurs, asymptomatic, no treatment required.

    #111510
    Jenny Rellick
    Participant

    I believe the most Ketogenic food on the Editor’s Choice list is Primal Freeze-Dried Canine Venison Formula. The Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content is 62% protein and 1% carbohydrates. It is high in fat, which is okay for dogs, but you should be careful of how many calories you feed. If dogs are like people, what looks like a small serving will satisfy your dog’s appetite after a few weeks. If your dog gets pancreatitis, a high-fat food may be bad. In that case, a canned food for a weight control may be your best option. Wellness Core Grain Free Weight Maintenance (Canned) has a dry matter estimate of 50% protein, 16% fat and 26% carbohydrates. Grain-free low-fat foods are not all ketogenic. Some include potatoes and legumes full of carbohydrates.

    If you feel like you would be feeding Bambi’s mother to your dog, the next most ketogenic food is Stella and Chewy’s Chewy’s Chicken Dinner (Freeze-Dried.) Its dry matter is an estimated 51% protein and 12% carbohydrates.

    For a large breed, these freeze dried ketogenic foods are expensive. The next best ketogenic foods on average are wet, but not all quality wet foods are ketogenic. The Editor’s Choice canned foods with 5 stars are a good place to start looking for high-protein, low carb foods you can afford.
    Fish oil, such as Bayer Snip Tips, is supposed to help a wide range of brain-based neurological conditions, and I think CBD oil is an excellent supplement.

    #111456
    ARLENE T
    Participant

    I came across this canned dog food at aldi’s. it says no corn, soy, wheat. no artificial flavors or preservatives. Any reviews on it? I have pictures of the label but don’t know how to include in the post. ingredients: water sufficient for processing, chicken,chicken liver, dried ground peas, carrots, sweet potatoes,salmon, chicken meal,animal plasma,guar gum, sodium tripolyphosphate,calcium carbonate, salt, caramel color, potassium chloride,carrageenan,choline chloride,taurine,vitamin e supplement,zinc sulfate,copper amino acidchelate, thiamine hydrochloride,pryridoxine hydrochloride,riboflavin, folic acid, biotin, vitamin d3 supplement. crude protein min 7.2%, crude fat min 4.2%,crude fiber max 1.5%,moisture max 81%,lysine min 0.13%,methionine min 0.07%, linoleic min 0.3%. What would be the rating? is it safe? Please help me if you can. thank you all so much.

    • This topic was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by ARLENE T.
    #111298
    CockalierMom
    Member

    Hi Jessica,
    Since your boy had problems digesting his previous kibble and now the Organix kibble, but yet responds well to home cooked food, I would suggest you consider adding canned food to his kibble to see how he does. Get one that can be fed alone and not just supplemental so that it will be balanced and work up to a 50/50 dry and wet.

    #110705
    Sue H
    Member

    I have a Colie with a VERY sensitive stomach and he is not on Galliprant. The food that works best for him is Purina ONE SmartBlend True Instinct Grain Free Nutrient-Dense Nutrient Dense Formula Dry Dog Food. The only food that has NOT given him diarrhea. If he happens to eat some of one of my other dog’s food, then I give him a big teaspoon of pumpkin (this does not turn a dog’s stool orange that I have even known of, as it is a small amount). The fiber in the pumpkin is what helps curb the diarrhea. It may be that the bland diet is making him worse. There is a product called Purina Fortiflora Canine Nutritional Supplement (box can be bought on Amazon or from your vet) that restores the proper bacteria in your dog’s GI system, which may be out of whack from the diarrhea.)

    I hope you have spoken with your vet and come up with a plan to help with the diarrhea. I know the feeling of being awakened at 3 am to let my Cody outside when he has to go, but better than cleaning him and diarrhea up inside….

    Again, be sure your dg is drinking enough water, even if you take him out a few extra potty times, way worth this.

    #110618
    Cheryl S
    Member

    About 8 mos ago my then 8 mos old Lab, had an 18 inch bowel resection due to complications after eating a sock
    Prior to this she was on frozen Raw diet- and doing very well
    She was having a malabsorption problem after surgery, and was put on Prescription Hills Science I’d. Because of weight loss
    She does well on it, but I know it is a lot of junk in it -I’m having trouble finding something that is better for her, and would love to get her back on raw
    Any supplements or whatever?

    #110417
    AmCa
    Member

    Hi pitlove, thanks for checking in!

    She’s on petsmart’s simply nourish puppy chicken and rice for now, 4 meals a day. It’s 389 cal/cup, so not too rich. She’s eating and tolerating it well so next week I’m going to start supplementing with small amounts here and there of: canned sardines, chicken gizzards, scrambled egg, chicken liver, and purĆ©ed greens. The vet suggested giving her a multivitamin…what do you think? Personally I’d rather supplement with real foods. But I’ll do whatever is best.

    The vet mentioned the risk of pyometra several times. Ugh I sure hope not. I had never heard of it before! I guess because I’ve always had my dogs fixed early on.

    #110213

    In reply to: Lymphoma

    Chris s
    Member

    The diet information is often conflicting…and requires a lot of time to read and cross check. I lost a dog from hemangiosarcoma 6 years back. My oldest dog now had a mast cell tumor in the last year. Some of the information on Dr. Dressler’s website may be helpful–however, I have found the general diet suggestions are not favorable for a dog with a history of mast cell tumor. The dietary goal with that cancer is low histamine foods–which conflicts with some of the foods listed on Dr. Dressler’s canine cancer diet. I would highly recommend looking into I’M Unity– it is a type of mushroom supplement which has been and continues to be studied by UPenn Vet Hospital for cancer treatment. It may be a useful alternative to chemo…without the side effects. It is worth a try. NOT doing chemo was the hardest decision I ever made for my guy who had hemangiosarcoma. I went to 3 top oncologists and contacted the NIH division of translational medicine looking for treatment options– but there had not been any advances in decades. He had severe separation anxiety as well. I decided on quality of life and followed the diet in Dr. Dressler’s book, but got very little time given the nature of his cancer. I hope you find good options for you and your poodle. Wishing you peace at this hard time. Follow your heart.

    #110105

    In reply to: Need advice on food!

    crazy4cats
    Participant

    Hi RollTide10-
    You could always supplement Omega-3. I give my dogs Fish pills or oil made by Nordic Naturals or Grizzly.

    Whole Earth Farms is in my dogs’ rotation. I have not had any bad effects from it so far. Good luck to you and your pup!

    #110072
    Alexandria K
    Member

    Hello!

    I currently give my yorkiepoodle Just Food For Dogs food but I am not quite happy with their consistency and the quality of the food (the Turkey and Macaroni recipe is all macaroni!).

    Anyways, I decided to start cooking for her myself. I was going to buy one of the Just Food For Dogs kits and use their supplements and recipe but swap out the macaroni with something else. Here are my thoughts:

    Ground Turkey

    Turkey Liver
    Broccoli
    Zucchini
    Carrots
    Cranberries
    Safflower Oil
    Premium EPA/DHA

    **Rice or Quinoa??** Thoughts? Thanks!

    #110066

    In reply to: Homemade vitamin mix

    Gary W
    Member

    All homemade diets must be supplemented with calcium. The amount found in multivitamin and mineral supplements is not enough. Give 800 to 1,000 mg calcium per pound of food (excluding non-starchy vegetables). You can use any form of plain calcium, including eggshells ground to powder in a clean coffee grinder (1/2 teaspoon eggshell powder provides about 1,000 mg calcium). Animal Essentials’ Seaweed Calcium provides additional minerals, as well. And here is a good list of calcium-rich foods your dog may like.

    Oils: Most homemade diets require added oils for fat, calories, and to supply particular nutrients. It’s important to use the right types of oils, as each supplies different nutrients.

    Fish Oil: Provides EPA and DHA, omega-3 fatty acids that help to regulate the immune system and reduce inflammation. Give an amount that provides about 300 mg EPA and DHA combined per 20 to 30 pounds of body weight on days you don’t feed fish. Note that liquid fish oil supplements often tell you to give much more than this, which can result in too many calories from fat.

    Cod Liver Oil: Provides vitamins A and D as well as EPA and DHA. If you don’t feed much fish, give cod liver oil in an amount that provides about 400 IUs vitamin D daily for a 100-pound dog (proportionately less for smaller dogs). Can be combined with other fish oil to increase the amount of EPA and DHA if desired.

    #110064
    Gary W
    Member

    As a rule, veterinarians consider a diet with less than 10 percent fat on a dry matter basis (less than 17 percent of calories from fat) to be low fat, while diets with 10 to 15 percent fat (17 to 23 percent of calories) are considered to contain a moderate amount of fat. Foods with more than 20 percent fat are considered high-fat. A few dogs may need a very low-fat diet, especially if they have hyperlipidemia, or if they react to foods with higher levels of fat.

    To make a low-fat homemade diet, feed about half carbohydrates, and half low-fat meat, eggs, and dairy. The percentage of carbs can be decreased, and the amount of meat increased, if you use very low-fat cuts, or boil them to remove most of the fat.

    The majority of the carbohydrates should be starchy foods, such as rice, oatmeal, barley, quinoa, pasta, potatoes, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, and winter squashes (e.g., acorn and butternut), to supply low-fat calories. Other types of vegetables, such as broccoli, summer squash, and leafy greens can be included, but they supply fewer calories so they can’t replace the starchy carbs. You can also use a low-fat pre-mix designed to balance out a homemade diet, such as Preference from The Honest Kitchen.

    The other half of the diet should be mostly low-fat meats, or meats cooked to remove much of their fat. Skinless chicken breast is very low in fat, but other parts can be used as long as you remove the skin and visible fat. Turkey, venison, goat, buffalo, and rabbit are low in fat, while lamb and pork are generally high in fat. Ground beef comes in varying levels of fat.

    Whole eggs are relatively high in fat but are highly nutritious, so they should be included in the diet in limited amounts. A large egg has about 5 grams of fat, which is not a lot for a very large dog, but too much for smaller dogs. You can hard boil eggs and then feed just a portion each day, or split them between multiple dogs. Almost all of the fat and calories are in the yolks, so the whites alone can be added to increase protein without increasing fat, if needed. When feeding just egg whites, they should either be cooked or a B vitamin supplement should be added, as raw egg whites can deplete biotin over time when fed without the yolks.

    Low-fat or nonfat dairy products are also good to include in the diet. Cottage cheese, plain yogurt, and kefir (a cultured milk product that is easy to make at home using low-fat or nonfat milk) are all good choices. Avoid other cheeses; even low-fat ones are high in fat (nonfat is okay).

    Homemade diets should include organ meat, and most organs are low in fat. Liver and kidney should be fed in small amounts only, no more than 5 to 10 percent of the total diet (around 1 to 1.5 ounces organ meat per pound of food). Beef heart is quite low in fat and is nutritionally more of a muscle meat, so it can be fed in larger quantities, as long as your dog does well with it.

    Fruits such as apple, banana, melon, papaya, and blueberries are fine to include in the diet in small amounts. Avoid avocados, which are high in fat.

    #110059

    In reply to: Need advice on food!

    anonymous
    Member

    For best results I would make an appointment with a board certified veterinary dermatologist for accurate testing, diagnosis and treatment.

    Environmental allergies? Has mange been ruled out? Atopic dermatitis? Medical condition? Has lab work and skin testing been done?
    Treatment is often a multifaceted approach. It’s not just about finding the right food, or the right shampoo, or the right supplement.
    In fact the food may have nothing to do with his symptoms.

    Do you have pet health insurance? You may want to consider getting it before he is officially diagnosed. Treatment can be a little expensive.
    If it is environmental allergies, there is no cure. There is effective treatment, however it is lifelong, allergies tend to wax and wane so you may get lucky, they could be mild or seasonal (if that’s what he has). He could very well have some other skin disorder or medical condition that is causing these issues.

    Bathing with a very gentle puppy shampoo at least once a week may help, but not if the skin is red, bleeding or irritated, in that case I would defer to the vet.
    Talk to your vet, if you want to rule out food sensitivities ask about a prescription/therapeutic diet, that might be a good place to start, it depends on how severe his symptoms are and how uncomfortable the dog is.

    I would go directly to the specialist if it was my dog, my dog sees a veterinary dermatologist once a year and has had a positive response to treatment.
    She did well on Nutrisca salmon for years but is now on Zignature whitefish or catfish.
    You could add fish oil (approved for veterinary use) once a day to his food, it’s supposed to help with dry skin. I add a little water and a topper, like a bit of scrambled egg (2 meals per day)

    #110018
    pitlove
    Participant

    Hi Sharyl-

    Depending on where you live, the change in weather could be causing the dry skin/dander, or he is not getting proper amounts of fatty acids in his diet. You can likely continue him on Fromm Gold and add a fatty acid supplement like Grizzly Salmon Oil to his food and within a month or so will see an improvement.

    Unless he is an extremely poorly bred dog with parents that showed similar symptoms at such a young age and later were diagnosed as a food allergy by elimination diet, its unlikely that he has already developed a food allergy.

    Do not make the same mistake I made when my boy was a puppy and switch his foods all around. It turned out he was in fact food sensitive and by changing his food so frequently, I could not keep it under control. I also had no clue what was causing the problem. Now he can not eat a grain free diet and peas, kangaroo, duck and red meat are his worst triggers.

    #110009
    anonymous
    Member

    The Vet Dr. John De Jong Sunday, January 28, 2018

    Q Despite the colder weather, my Frenchie continues to itch. He did improve when taking a medication my vet gave him called Apoquel. While his itching is less frequent now, I am hoping you could explain why he continues to scratch. The dog is not quite 2 years old, and he is otherĀ­wise healthy. Can I keep him on this medication? His skin is also a little dry, so I have thought about giving him some supplements from the local pet store. His skin looks good otherwise.

    A Apoquel is a great medication at controlling itchiness, or pruritis, in dogs, but it treats the symptoms associated with allergies and not the root cause of the problem. It is a much safer drug than the historically used steroids. Studies have shown it to be effective for a long time, with a wide margin of safety.
    I would suggest that you either have a veterinary dermatologist review the case or have a good discussion about it with your veterinarian. Here are a few questions worth asking: Were skin scrapings done to rule out mange mites? Has any allergy testing been done? What about considering desensitization with allergy shots? Have you tried your dog on a novel protein diet in case the dog has allergies to certain meat proteins?
    Just because the weather is cold, one cannot assume that there are no fleas around, so make sure skin parasites aren’t the cause. Are you using a flea and tick preventative? Also ask yourself if your home is dry this winter.
    As for supplements, I would work with your veterinarian to use a good source of Omega 3 oils rather than buying over-the-counter products. With good diagnostics, you might be able to solve the itching. If not, the medication you were given for your dog will suffice. Good luck.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/lifestyle/2018/01/getting_to_the_bottom_of_frenchie_s_itchiness?utm_campaign=bostonherald_trending_stories&utm_source=bostonherald&utm_medium=trending_stories

    #109997
    Susan
    Participant

    Hi again,
    Yes stop all treats as they can be very high in fat & just use the dry kibble your feeding for her treats, did you take back the Simply Nourish & get a refund? i would contact Simply Nourish company & they should pay for the vet bill as well, 1 of my cats got ill after I applied Revolution I contacted Revolution & they told me to wash the Revolution off ASAP I had already done that then the lady said if he needs to see a vet they will Pay for it just tell the vet you’re seeing to contact this lady, my new cat is fine with revoluton spot on treatment but my other cat wasnt,…
    What are you using to prevent fleas?? Please dont say Bravecto or Nexgard as these flea chews can cause stomach problems & other health problems
    I wouldn’t make her drink water, when they eat wet food they don’t need to drink as much water, wet food, cooked & wet can food is around 70% water, its when you feed kibble they drink heaps of water… also when she hasn’t eaten all day thats OK she is resting her stomach, Pancreas, dogs are smart & know when not to eat, when to drink water etc, then when she finally does eat a meal feed her slowly & only feed 1/2 the meal then feed the other 1/2 of the meal about 30-60mins later, sometimes I feed Patch 1 spoon cooked food at a time in his bowl cause he gulps the whole cooked meal in 5sec then he gets pain & I think the pain is wind pain & he needs a to have a big burp, I ,ake Patch sit & hold his chest area & rub his back up & down like you’re burping a babythen he does a big burp & feels better, what I do with Patch & drinking water I use a small bowl & I go fill it 1/2 up & I take the water to him & I ask do you want a drink Patch if he does his head pops up & he moves to drink the water, I do this at night while I’m watching TV & he’s sleeping he gets lazy so I get his water for him but he’s 9y yrs old now & couldnt be bothered getting up om a comfy bed sometimes….
    Do you live near a “Costco” or know someone that shops there? Costco have their “Kirkland Signture” Nature’s Domain dry Kibble look at their Turkey & Sweet Potato all life stages kibble, that’s if you can not afford the Natural balance LID kibble this Turkey & Sweet Potato doesnt have too many ingredients, it has probiotics for the gut, & has low Kcals Per cup336Kcals per cup so easy to digest, Patch was eating the Taste Of The Wild Sierra Moutain Roasted Lamb this last 1 & 1/2 years & he was doing very well on teh TOTW Lamb & kirkland Signature is made by the same maker as TOTW
    Here’s are the ingredients.

    Turkey meal, sweet potatoes, peas, potatoes, canola oil, tomato pomace, flaxseed, natural flavor, salmon oil (a source of DHA), salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus reuteri fermentation product, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein 24% Minimum
    Crude Fat 14% Minimum
    Crude Fiber 4% Maximum
    Moisture 10% Maximum
    Zinc 150 mg/kg Minimum
    Selenium 0.35 mg/kg Minimum
    Vitamin E 150 IU/kg Minimum
    Omega-6 Fatty Acids* 2.4% Minimum
    Omega-3 Fatty Acids* 0.3% Minimum
    Total Microorganisms* Not Less Than 1,000,000 CFU/lb
    (Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidobacterium animalis, Lactobacillus reuteri)

    Calorie Content
    3,590 kcals/kg (336 kcals/cup) Calculated Metabolizable Energy

    Does she have a fermenting smell coming from her mouth?? if yes then stop feeding the boiled rice & start buying Sweet Potatoes & peel cut up in pieces & boil them you can freeze Sweet Potato it freezes well, I freeze sweet potato pieces then if I need some I just take out of freezer leave out to thaw, also potato is also good to feed, I also buy the Gluten free pasta for Patch Aldis sells it cheap, Aldis also sells tin Tuna in Spring water cheap keep a few tins of Tuna in the Cupboard for when she becomes unwell & you dont have any chicken, I have my Sweet potato cooked in the freezer & a couple of cans of tuna just in case, scramble egg is also good to feed when unwell or as a light meal..

    If you do see the vet on Tuesday ask can you try a 14 day course of “Metronidazole” (Flagyl) twice a day every 12 hours with a meal, when she was vomiting & became unwell she probably needed a course of the Metronidazole when Patch starts having any stomach bowel problems Patches vet tells me to start him on the Metronidazole for 21 days, he’s taking the Metronidazole again at the moment & seems to be getting better, I hope….
    You could ask the vet can you have a few repeat script of the Metronidazole 21 tablets 200mg & you take the script to chemist, I got 2 packet of te Metronidazole today only cost me $7.21 for 21 X 200mg tablets… heaps cheaper then seeing the vet & buying from the vet just explain your at Uni Studying & the vet might understand what its like & see you’re a good dog owner & care for your girl heaps I’d say its the Pit Bull in her, some Pit Bulls, Staffy seem to suffer with stomach problems…..
    Maybe if she seems OK by Monday then cancel the Tuesday vet visit unless you want to ask for the Metronidazole but if she isnt sick the vet may not prescribe any medications, it will all depend on the vet, cause there’s nothing they can really do except with do further test & the stomach is the hardest health problem to diagnose & the only good test that gives answers is the Endoscope/Biopsies as the camera looks down her throat into her stomach they take a tiny tissue sample & thats ur biopsies no pain they come home in the afternoon & eat a small cooked meal & back to normal the next day, it might be best to save your money & get another LID kibble & wait till she is unwell again, an Endoscope isnt as expensive as people think, it cost around $400-$500 best to shop around first then you pay extra for the Biopsies they cost arount $50 each Patch had 2 biopsies I think, my bill wasnt itemized this time, but I saw teeth cleaning & scaling cost me $200, I dont even get my teeth cleaned & Patch comes out with these pearly whites but he had Gingitivitas back left molar teeth vet wanted to stop any bacteria going down his throat…..
    I have to get to bed very tired, Patch is waiting for me… dogs are so loyal arent they..

    #109974
    anonymous
    Member

    You have not provided much information on your dog. Age? Prior history?

    Vomiting is not normal, especially if it is not acute.
    You imply in your post that it has been going on for a while.
    So I would consider it chronic.

    Have you tried a dome bowl designed to slow down the eating, in case the dog is eating too fast?
    Are you feeding small meals 3 or 4 times a day instead of 2 large ones?
    Don’t free feed, leave food out all day. I would add a little water to dry kibble.
    These are things I would try.
    I would return to the clinic and ask for a diagnosis. If that involves doing some tests such as lab work or x-rays, so be it.

    It could be nothing, but it could be something that will respond to treatment.

    No one can diagnose your pet over the internet nor should they try. Please do not give over the counter meds and supplements unless advised to do so by a veterinarian that has examined the dog.
    What worked for someone else’s dog might cause harm to yours.

    #109958

    In reply to: 5 Star Dog Treats

    pitlove
    Participant

    Hi Kelly-

    DFA does not rate dog treats. Their current rating system would not fit for dog treats since they are meant for supplemental feeding and not a full diet.

    I personally do not use treats in my house, so I can’t help much there, but I think most of the people on here use treats from the same company of food they buy or make their own.

    Personally though, I find that petting, praise, exercise and love are what they prefer to treats. And then they live longer because they aren’t overweight! Its a win win for me.

    #109953
    crazy4cats
    Participant

    Check out balanceit.com. It is a site where you can create a balanced homemade diet for your pup for free. They also sell the supplements that ensure it gets all the proper nutrients. The site is maintained by vets that are board certified vet nutritionists. I’ve formulated a few diets for my dogs using ingredients that I usually have at home. I make them a homemade meal once or twice per month. They love it!
    Check it out!

    Or, purchase a commercial diet that is made by a well known company to get your dog healthy. Good luck!

    anonymous
    Member

    I wouldn’t waste my money on supplements.
    Go to skeptvet dot com use the search engine there to look up Herbs and Supplements

    Just add a little of chicken broth, recipe below
    /forums/topic/grain-free-2/#post-109751

    I never serve just dry kibble, always add something. Dogs love Mighty Dog, just add a tablespoon and a splash of water to the kibble.
    I recommend https://www.chewy.com/mighty-dog-chicken-smoked-bacon-combo/dp/12818

    2doodlemom
    Member

    I have a 14 month old almost 32 lb doodle that’s a very picky eater or just refuses to eat. Have check out everything at Vet and no issues. I have tried many different dry kibbles, some raw and cooked food, but everything he eats for a day or two and quits. I would like advice if anyone else has a similar dog and what helped? He weight does fluctuates a bit when he doesn’t eat, he should be about 35-40 lbs. But vet says over all health is good. Are their any supplements that would help his appetite? I have done a lot of research but have not come up with anything solid. Thanks for any help in advance, much appreciated.

    #109908
    Christi G
    Member

    I just wanted to share with you my experience with using supplements and coconut oil in my sister’s dog – Maya. 3 years ago she was diagnosed with PLE after this last round of steroids (last one taken on 12/2) my sister decided to let maya die peacefully. She took her off of all her chemo drugs (for PLE) on 12/10 and we knew the end would come soon… but I had a different plan. So, I used what I know about about supplements and did a ton of research!

    For a month and a 1/2 now, I’ve been feeding her coconut oil, CLA, A ginger enzyme and half of a one of my probiotics – now I use the GNC product (see below). I also started feeding her homemade food and giving her a good breakfast and dinner and 2 small meals in between. Her diet is made up of white rice (I melt the coconut oil in the white rice and add a spoon full of cream of chicken soup to disguise the taste and I add the ginger enzyme – good for disgestion and cardiovascular health, a probiotic and cla (helps breakdown fat and build protein) to her breakfast), either sweet peas & carrots or green beans, and I mix up her proteins with boiled chicken, canned salmon (MAKE SURE YOU GET THE BONELESS!!) or tuna fish in water. I give her about a half a breast of chicken. Also, she gets GNC’s Superfood complex with joint support. Dogs love the taste and it is packed with good stuff – probiotics, joint supplement, tons of vitamins and supplements!

    My sister was checked into the hospital on the 16th and I will admit I got lazy with Maya’s meals because of work and going back and forth to the hospital. After 4 days without her supplements and oil, I sat down on Sunday a week ago and it was like she dropped 2 lbs in less than a week. So, I went back to my routine with the oil and supplemnts. In just a 3 days she was looking beef again and as of yesterday she had gained almost 2 lbs since her last weigh in back in December. The vet said “well, I guess we have her on the right meds” and I was like “she’s off her meds… since mid-December.” The vet was shocked! I didn’t tell her my secret as my sister thinks cocconut oil is too fatty for her… well, it’s doing wonders. Maya has an ear infection and a check up in 10 days… I can’t wait to see her weigh-in in 10 days!!

    All I can say is that she is off all drugs and the supplements and oil are working great….Don’t look for overnight results. Give it a week or 2 to really start working.

    I hope this helps with your babies!

    Maya – weigh in after off drugs in December 55
    Maya – weigh in yesterday (no drugs for over a month) 57.9 lbs
    Protein levels have increased, she is happy and energetic and her skin and coat have improved b/c the drugs aren’t drying her out. She is eating and drinking normally. she used to slurp down half the bowl when on her meds.

    #109901
    amber t
    Member

    Since Oct, my dog has been going through multiple symptoms. It started with vomiting and anorexia. She was given a dexamethasone shot and cerenia and it worked for a week. Then same symptoms same treatment and it worked. Happened again so was given presidone, didn’t work and caused black tarry stools. She had a foul odor, given another shot, worked for almost a month then same thing. Given a Dex shot, not as good on working and then given dex pills. Now she has reddish brown stool (bloody). She is more tired and very burpy. The bloodwork was normal, the xray in Oct was normal and the ultrasound in Nov was normal except enlarged kidneys due to kidney infection. We have tried a few food source, right now she is on buffalo. She is not acting herself before she got sick, she still stresses easy, for example storms, strange people outside. She is almost 12 years old. I have thought of euthanasia if it is needed. The doctor says her condition is either IDB or cancer, only way to tell is an expensive biopsy which I can’t afford at the moment for all the test, medicines, and food that I have tried on her. Have any of you had dogs that developed IBD at a later age or cancer of the GI, or something that sounds similar? Any good foods or supplements or medicines? She has been seen by three different vets.

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