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I see. Liquid is much easier. Wishing you luck and all the best!

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Hi GSDsForever, I didn’t know about the Compounding pharmacy til the end or I would have used them long ago.

I just always went to the vets office and bought it. The last vet that ordered it for me went thru and compounding pharmacy, but I can’t remember the name for Jennifer.

Thank you for all the info!

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Have you looked into the Gabapentin powdered capsule? Petmeds sales the capsules and says it doesn’t contain Xylitol.

Look under their Q & A forum or call. That may be better for your sweet one. I did ask them questions but I believe I was told my boy was too tiny for them because they couldn’t be dosed correctly. I could be wrong

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I wonder if you got an old batch if it tastes that bad? I wish I’d tasted the ones my sweet boy had, but he never had
a problem with the taste. I do know the one from Walgreens did have the xylitol in it. I gave him 2 doses before I realized I need to call Walgreens and ask, because my vet called for me to get there instead of the hour drive to vets office that day.

I threw it in trash and drove to vet office. The last vet that gave the gabapentin, I had to tell him to make sure it doesn’t have the xylitol in it! So not every vet knows of this, like you would think would know! So he ordered it for me that took a few days. If I remember the name I’ll post it.

Can you call the vet and ask if it has the xylitol?

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Hi Jennifer , My Chihuahua took it from 3 different places ( 2 vets and Walgreens) which was 3 different name brands and never had a problem with taste.

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Hi, Joanna M,

Yes, mine had a sweet smell that the vet called into Walgreens for me. I gave 2 doses then realized I need to call Wall-greens and ask does it have Xylitol in it. He didn’t know and had to research and called me back. It did! I threw it away and drove the hour to my vets office and got his Gabapentin.

On way home I decided to open it and smell and it had the sweet smell to it, same as Walgreens did.
I freak out and pull over and call vet. They said it doesn’t have the Xylitol in it.

But I remembered the last bottle of Gabapentin from the same vets office, had no smell.

You need to call your vet and ask. I totally understand your freaking out. Been there, done that.

You would think from the vets office, it wouldn’t have the xylitol in it. But you never know

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BTW Susan, your sweet boy is LUCKY to have you! I’ve always read the posts you write about him. He’s loved and I’m sure he knows it.

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Hi Susan,

Bubba is doing good as far as the medicine goes, thank goodness. No bad side effects.
But the side he fell on his arm is still sore.

The only meds he’s on is Galliprant and Gabapentin.

X-ray showed “horrible arthritis” as one vet put it three months ago and put him on the Galliprant.

After he fell 4 days ago and hurt shoulder and x-ray showed no breakage or fracture another vet said his arthritis is “high” and put him on Gabapentin for pain.

I’ve read the Gabapentin works best when combined with another pain medicine, which would be the Galliprant. I’ve never heard of Physiotherapy or Cartrophen vet injection.

I can look into them thou. Don’t think the vets office has either or you would think they would have mentioned to me.

Sure will look into the wheat pack. He has a disk that came from pet store years ago that looks like a frisbe and you microwave it and stays warm for hours.
I put inside a pillowcase and under his cover and he can snuggle next to it.

Crock potted chicken feet for 24 hrs for bone broth and give Answers fish stock and Primal’s goat milk, sardines, fresh eggs, home cooked, Dr Harveys and so on.

Seems nothing helps this sweet boy with his arthritis!

Thank you for the info, Susan! Will look into all of it :0)

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Wow! Had a very nice guy from Gabapentin call me. Said that their Gabapentin does
have Xylitol in it but the one I got from vet must not have it cause my sweet boy hasn’t had a reaction to it.

So I’ll see how he does this 2 wks on it and go from there. Left arm is really sore today. Could be a cool front has come thru but he has a warmer for pets in his bed
that he can lay beside if he wants.

We were in 80’s just a few days ago. Goodness. I know it takes the meds time to work.

I do feel MUCH better today. Yesterday I was so upset with worry I couldn’t even think.

Had vet office called within 4 hrs would had saved a lot of heartache on my part.

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Awww, very kind of you, anon! It sure is heartbreaking. I get teary eyed just thinking about it.

We also have a deer head Chi that we adopted 11 yrs ago. He was abused. He’s as old as the hills. Teeth were so rotted vet pulled everyone.

My husband and he loves each other to pieces!! Husband talks to him more in a day than he does to me LOL

I do without to do for them. But I know they’d do the SAME for me.

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Well, homeopathic puts me at ease though LOL. Much better than having to give meds w/ side effects.

He’s doing pretty good on the gabapentin. Isn’t acting loopy or anything. Just normal actually.

Yes, he’s has a memory foam inside his bed that is surrounded with a baby gate. Has his water and pee pad next to him. I carefully pick him up to set in yard and carry him back in.

He hasn’t been alone since Monday except for 10 min. I wait til husband comes home to run errands. Little brat. Haha

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I just received an email from vet!…She tried calling but server weather last night and our phone lines still down so she emailed me.

Said they purchase their veterinary products from a different supplier than the human medications and doesn’t contain any artificial sweeteners like xylitol.

I think I’ll go with the liquid, also.

Still a bit nervous though as I know any medication can effect all pets differently.

Do feel better from email and from you anon!

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Thanks anon!! I did get an email from Dr. Morgan saying the same things you just said.

That a vet pharmacy should have compounded the gabapentin so insure no xylitol is in it.

And Gabapentin is generally safe to use. No label on mine is why I’ve asked the vet to give me the ingredient list. Don’t think that’s gonna happen now.

I did know the brand name Neurontin as I sat on comp yesterday for seems like hours trying to get all info I could get. I just get too worried about my sweet boy and only want what’s best.

Vet did say if my boy does good on the Gabapentin she would just keep him on forever.
What’s best the liquid or capsules?

I would have to measure dosage of the capsules, I think. A little scared about that.

I just want a safe medicine to give to help with his pain.

Thank you SO much anon for your help! ;0)

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I HATE sardines, but feed them to these in spring water because they’re healthy for them to eat. She said if you cook the sardines they stink really bad. No thanks!

I just give these a spoon each a few times per wk. I’ve fed Dr. Harvey’s veg-to-bowl fine ground and have his Canine health right now. You can totally trust his food!

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Just click on the left low sodium dog food should put you inside that post (topic)

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Yes, look to the left at recent topics and yes, recent replies you will see Low Sodium Beef Dog food recipes.
Click on that and you will see I put a recipe there. Gosh, I hope I’m telling you this correctly cause I haven’t been logged on in a while except yesterday and today..and only 2 cups of coffee so far. LOL

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Look to the left at Lori J recent post I put it there

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Hi Kathleen, I just posted a recipe on the post Low sodium beef dog food you may can use.

If you go to Dr. Judy Morgan’s web site she has a ton of info about heart murmur’s
and will even answer questions.

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Hi Lori, here is a recipe from Dr. Judy Morgan’s book on a heart healthy diet.
1lb beef cubed or ground
1lb beef heart cubed or ground
3oz beef liver cubed or ground
2 eggs without shell
4oz carrot grated or processed
2oz kale finely chopped or processed
1TBS fresh ginger root grated or processed
Add 2 (canned) sardines at time of feeding

This diet can ground and mixed together, baked at 325 for 30-45 min in a loaf or square baking dish, cooked on low 4-6 hours in a slow cooker, or fed raw.

Good treats for dogs with heart disease include pieces of freeze dried heart, green tripe, or liver, carrots, hard boiled eggs and baked kale chips.

Raw goat milk is high in Taurine and makes a great addition.

Add 1/2 tsp finely ground egg shell to every pound of meat

Her wed site has LOTS of info on how to treat and keep your pets healthy.

Her new book has a lot of info on heart disease and recipes

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Hi Judy, My 15 Y/O Chihuahua that weighs 5 lbs was just put on Galliprant for severe Arthritis
in his spine and legs last Wed.

Only difference I’ve noticed is he’s woke up for water prob 6 times last 2 nights and not sleeping well through the night. Hasn’t really helped his arthritis either. Could be too early to tell I don’t know.
Had he started panting like yours though, I’d be VERY worried about that.

I’ve decided last night was his LAST dose of this medicine. Reading all the mixed reviews has
me scared to death to keep giving!

I took him to his vet of 15 yrs 2 wks ago and decided then to walk away from there and not go back.

So took him to a vet an hour away and x-ray showed the arthritis. After driving home I realized Galliprant was the one on here I read mixed reviews about.
I gave for the few days but no longer am.

I’m into more natural remedies for this sweet boy so will be researching what safe product(s) I can give to help him with this.

So sorry your dog is having such trouble. It breaks our hearts to see them in pain.
Please keep us posted how things go.

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Hi Patricia,
I’ve never fed Primal, but I did place a few orders for Allprovide’s frozen raw food.
I fed the chicken, turkey & beef but I can’t remember which one had big chunks of
very sharp jagger bones that I had to pick out in order for my 5lb Chi to eat it.

I took pics and texted them to Allprovide. They were the correct size bones for that food!
I felt they were too big for my Chi to eat.
So always having to poke my fingers around his bowl to pull out all bones..I stopped buying their food.

I believe they are now under new MNGT..so things may be different now.

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Yes, it does break you heart! You always want them to stay happy and healthy. You’re on the right track already! Yes, try the bathroom steam and see if that helps.

If it gets too bad, you may have to at least try the temaril P and see if it helps.
It’s been a miracle pill for this one.

Always sit with him if you do the tent. Don’t walk away. The steam fills up quick and that area will get hot. I don’t leave the area completely covered. I’ve had to do the tent thing about 4 times and it helped.

I believe coq10 helps too. I bought Dr. Harvey’s a while back and think I’ll place another order.

And you’re very welcome, Ryan! 🙂

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Hi Ryan K
My Chi will be 15 in 2 days. Yrs ago my vet said his cough was due to his trachea.
He’s been on Temaril P for a few yrs now. It was the only thing that helps with his cough.
I don’t like giving meds for long..but he has to have them. Nothing else really seemed to help him except the temaril.

I’ve heard glucosamine will help build the his trachea, so you may just have to find the right one for your sweet boy.

Also never allow smoking around him. No one has been allowed to smoke in my home, car or around my Bubba for 12 yrs now. I don’t burn any scented candles and wash my floors ( and the pet blankets) in dish soap and vinegar. I use an all free laundry soap for clothes and my bed sheets. Smoke, scents and perfumed soaps always triggered a bad cough in him which then aggervated his trachea.

Yrs ago I even had to make him a tent and put the humidifier on him to help him breathe.
I’ve never been so scared in my life!
After changing a lot of things I did, has been what’s helped him the most.

I’m in Louisiana and when it gets humid here it effects his trachea. I can’t allow him to get hot. You can also give him a few licks of natural honey when the cough is bad. It will soothe his throat.

Kibble straches the throat. Mine haven’t had kibble in yrs. They eat canned, home-cooked,
dehydrated.
Hope this helps and good luck with your sweet boy.

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Thanks anon :0)

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Letting her know what worked for my pets, anon. I’m sure she will look into both products before giving – if she chooses one of them and talk to her vet.

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I forgot to mention I see a lot of ppl use T- Relief for their pets pain. Physicians often
recommend T – Relief as a safe and reliable alternative to NSAIDS.

I was going to talk to my vet about this – but found the animed and since it worked I
don’t need anything for pain so far. You can read about it at Petmeds under pain

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Don’t know how to posted twice. Sorry

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Hi weezerweeks –
I have 2 Chihuahua’s one will be 15 Y/O in 3 wks that weighs 5 lbs. Other one prob older than that as he was a rescue 10 yrs ago that weighs 9 lbs. I saw they both esp my tiny one was having Arthritis pain. And I mean pain. It was horrible.

Vet put him on pain meds and like you, I always go as natural and healthy as I can for my pets. I researched and researched and came across AniMed Hip Help. Every site I looked at for this product had GREAT reviews. I found it at my feed store for a good size bottle for maybe $10. I emailed company w/ questions and within minutes got a reply.
I use nothing from China or any ingred that can hurt them.
It’s a power that looks and smells like a vanilla protein shake. Product will last a long time.

I can’t even tell you how much it helped them! My tiny one was holding head down, spine curved and walking with a gait. Also take a look at DR. Judy Morgan’s web site.
She’s all for natural healthy ways to care for pets and sales products.

And I agree with anon about the jumping on and off. That makes a world of difference if he’l use pet steps. I’ve read great things about Tumeric. I don’t give fish oil supplements
but feed sardines in spring water a few days a wk.

Hope he feels better soon 🙂

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Hi weezerweeks –
I have 2 Chihuahua’s one will be 15 Y/O in 3 wks that weighs 5 lbs. Other one prob older than that as he was a rescue 10 yrs ago that weighs 9 lbs. I saw they both esp my tiny one was having Arthritis pain. And I mean pain. It was horrible.

Vet put him on pain meds and like you, I always go as natural and healthy as I can for my pets. I researched and researched and came across AniMed Hip Help. Every site I looked at for this product had GREAT reviews. I found it at my feed store for a good size bottle for may $10. I emailed company w/ questions and within minutes got a replay.
I use nothing from China or any ingred that can hurt them.
It’s a power that looks and smells like a vanilla protein shake. Product will last a long time.

I can’t even tell you how much it helped them! My tiny one was holding head down, spine curved and walking with a gait. Also take a look at DR. Judy Morgan’s web site.
She’s all for natural healthy ways to care for pets and sales products.

And I agree with anon about the jumping on and off. That makes a world of difference if he’l use pet steps. I’ve read great things about Tumeric. I don’t give fish oil supplements
but feed sardines in spring water a few days a wk.

Hope he feels better soon 🙂

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You’re very welcome! Good luck on getting the book 🙂

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Egg shell for the bone mean I meant to say

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I believe if not using bone, you can use egg shell for the calcium. I made mine into patties and lightly sauted in pan since there is no bone in it

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https://www.facebook.com/doctor.karen.becker/videos/10154418475777748/ Try this

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It’s about the 10th or so video down

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Hey Megan,
I’m not good with links (sorry!) but if you get on her FB page and click on videos you”ll find it. Someone else may jump in with the link

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Hi Megan,
I just mailed off my book to an out of state poster looking for Dr. Becker’s book. So keep looking, you may get lucky. Also, she does have a raw recipe on her website that I’ve made a few times. Try calling the library and asking if they can get ( or if the have) her book that you can borrow. I’ve done that a few times with some pet recipe books.

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Awww, I’m so sorry. It breaks your heart when they leave us

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Thanks anon! Yep, that’s the joint supplement I just started. LOL. I know you don’t like a lot of supplements, but I read up on it..and just wanting to help my sweet lil man.
He’s been on Cosequin for a long while, and it seemed to stop helping so I wanted to switch over to something new.

He’s also been on pain meds for years ( he’s my problem child.) He’s had back pain and 2 surgeries and vet said to always have pain meds on hand for him.

He’s never had a problem with them and I never give except once in a long while.
I did notice the one time I gave the Tramadol he was able to rest and get some slee

You and a few others are a blessing on here :0)

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Hi anon, my vet gave me Tramadol pills a few months ago for my 14 y/o tiny Chi after he had another hernina surgery. I did give him one a few nights ago as I could see he was hurting from Arthritis.
I also have Carprofen. Which should I use for pain?

Just started Springtime joint supplements hoping they do him some good.

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Hi Marie! Thank you! I’m always popping in here learning something new all the time. I know a few ppl have left. I miss a few of them. My little Honeybee just turned 14 Y/O
last month and is doing really well. Good seeing you. :0)

Hi Soph, I’m also sending Dr Harveys book..just in case you’re interested in dehydrated foods.
Just bought his new food Paradiam..the doggies loved it! Very green and had a strong cinnamon/spice smell.
Not something I would feed daily..but once every few days

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Hi Soph,
A number of yrs back, a poster on Dr. Beckers site was kind enuff to send me her book. It’s in excellent shape..and if you have a post office box NOT home Address, I will be happy to send and gift you my book.

I haven’t posted here in a long time..but I posted as Honeybeesmom.
Here is my email
cathyrobert@bellsouth.net

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I did pick up a few samples of Spots Farms at Petco. It’s a new human grade dehydrated food. Doggies loved it! I emailed them about ingredients from China, and they said no ingred. are sourced from China. I don’t feed ANY foods that have anything from China!

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Hi, I also saw that food on Chewey’s. Someone asked Dr. Judy Morgan DVM on her website
about Tylee’s.
They asked Tylee’s a few questions and they were told nothing is sourced from China, it’s produced in Texas through a third party facility and they are unable to share the name due to their independent ownership. Dr. Judy said she doesn’t like co-packing as a general rule..so she personaly wouldn’t use.

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