Best Dry Grain Free Dog Foods

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The following is a list of our best dog food brands — each known to include at least one dry grain free dog food.

Bowl of Grain Free Dog FoodTo qualify, each dry kibble must have been rated four or five stars by the Advisor.

And of course, it must be grain free.

If you know of a dry grain free dog food you feel should have been included on this list, please feel free to share your suggestions in the Comments section below.

Or if you’re searching for some suggestions yourself, remember to browse our readers’ Comments below to get some more ideas.

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Best Dry Grain Free Dog Foods

The following is a list of our top-rated dry dog food brands. Each line has been shown to contain at least one grain free dog food.

  • Annissa

    We have a 6 year old dog. She has always had a corn allergy so we have been using the Authority Grain Free dog food. This year in August, she started showing signs of allergy once again, just skin reactions such as intense itching. Shortly after, we went on vacation and boarded her at the vet’s kennel. When we got home one week later, she had the beginnings of a bacterial infection from the itching. They treated her with a 10 day round of pills and some ointment. She pretty much cleared up and was eating homemade dog food. When the pills ran out, the rash started back up. We tried a few other grain free dog foods, but nothing has stopped the rash. We just tried the Nutrish Zero Grain Dog Food and after only 2 feedings, she is covered in hives and is scratching a lot. I got some Blue Limited Ingredient Grain Free today and am going to try it tomorrow morning. I’m not sure what’s up here. We are all ready to get something that really works. Any suggestions?

  • theBCnut

    We feel pretty confident that if it is a bone issue that it’s just that it scraped on its way down. He’s not showing any signs more serious than irritation and it has been long enough that he certainly should be if it were serious. None of his symptoms are in any way serious, just such a strange combo. Probably a weird coincidence that he’s had multiple things happen at the same time. With all the mucous that he had in the back of his throat, he was sounding very much like a pug for a couple days.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Hope he gets back to normal soon and that it’s not turkey bone related. I’ve only heard about 1 bone related incident from my BARF group in the past year. But I’ve had several fosters come to me with URI’s and one time my boys “coughed” for about 3 days and that was it. It was so mild and intermittent during the day that I couldn’t tell if they were just sneezing or just gagging on something. Pugs just make strange sounds sometimes.

  • theBCnut

    It’s one of those things where I keep second guessing myself. None of his symptoms, by themselves, are worthy of a vet trip. And none of them are serious in any way, but I keep saying “well it could be…” except that he isn’t doing this or that.
    I hate it when things happen heading into the weekend, because you have to guess about what could happen if things get worse.

  • DogFoodie

    How nerve-wracking this must be for you! It sounds like he’s improved. I hope things continue to get better without further medical intervention. Hang in there!!

  • theBCnut

    Well, we just got back from a recheck. The vet is still just as stumped as I am, or rather we can’t point to just one thing. He agreed that taking him off the new food was vital and that in the 36 hours since Micah last had the new food the mucous production was almost back to normal, but not quite. He definitely thinks the food is a factor, but not necessarily the only thing going on, which is how I’ve been feeling. He was able to see further down Micah’s throat with the reduction in mucous and he did see a single spot of redness, so maybe the turkey scraped on its way down, but once again, that doesn’t really explain everything we’re seeing. He may have a mild case of kennel cough, but if he does, his immune system is doing great, because it’s really mild. If he doesn’t clear up in the next couple days then next is xrays and endoscoping. The vet didn’t think it was warranted today. He feels we can rule out a piece of bone in the stomach or intestines, which since there has been no vomitting and no changes in mucous membrane color, I had already decided, but there may still be something in the esophagus, though he doesn’t really think so, we just can’t rule it out yet. There is also no licking and gulping. There is lots of frustration though.
    BTW, it’s not my normal dog vet. She is on a mission trip to Africa. I hope not to an ebola region. Today, Micah saw my cat vet, and he acted like it, climbing up on everything, including my shoulders. I really like my cat vet more on nutrition issues anyways, so it was a good thing.

  • theBCnut

    Sue
    I’m not going over Micah’s whole history with you, but there are more signs of an allergy than hives. Some dogs never get hives with a true allergy. They may get the itchy tingling feeling in their mouth and throat that humans get before they start having their throat swell shut, which does cause thick mucous, but they aren’t saying, so I can only guess. Yes, Micah has been and is on an elimination diet for the last two years. This was the attempt to try millet. No, I’m not assuming anything about millet except that it is a possibility and nothing else in his diet is a possibility, but it could be something else altogether, not diet related.
    He has not vomitted at all or did you not read that, which when he had acid reflux, he did almost every 2 hours like clockwork. Not every dog that has a symptom or 2 that somewhat resemble a symptom or 2 that your dog had, has the same problem as your dog. And acid reflux is NOT caused by a dog or human producing too much acid. It is caused by the sphincter muscle at the top of the stomach not closing all the way. Micah has not had any diets restrictions, except for the foods he reacts to, for 2 years and has had no acid reflux, and he eats a HIGH fat diet.
    You are the one guessing and assuming, not me.

  • sue66b

    And what issues did Micah have when he had his acid reflux …. Patch has true food allergies & he scratches has hives like lumps & has diarrhea from foods, he doesnt hack, vomit or drool & mop around when he has an intolarence to a food, he only does that when he has stomach & bowel problems..whos not saying its not something else in this new kibble & your just assumming its the millet, have you ever done an elimination diet & added millet to his diet to see that he cant eat millet, I was guessing & assuming last year with Patch I thought he couldnt have flaxseed, I thought he couldnt have rosemary oil this & that until I started an elimination diet & started adding foods that were in kibbles to Patches diet thats when I knew what he could eat & what he couldnt eat….its the only way…

  • theBCnut

    Yes, I’m resting his gut. He has been seeming some better before meals and then worse a couple hours later. And he hasn’t completely finished a meal in a couple days, which is totally unlike him, ever. Right before all this happened, I had fed him turkey with slightly too much bone and his stools did come out dry and crumbly, so I thought at first that he was just constipated, but he has had completely normal stools ever since. He still could have swallowed too big a piece of bone, but he’s never reacted this way before, he just regurgitates them and moves on.

  • Dori

    It could still be the lamb and millet just reacting in a different way then his typical food intolerance reactions. Have you been fasting him on purpose or does Micah just not want to eat? Fasting is good for him probably at this point to allow things to just calm down. Poor little guy. Poor you too and the family. It may be one of those things that you just never get an answer for and you’ll drive yourself crazy trying to figure out. My only thought at this point is to keep the fast going till tomorrow and then introduce bland food little bits at a time. Maybe multiple small meals for tomorrow until you’re sure he can handle things ok. Maybe just some bone broth too would help him. Hopefully he’s drinking some water. I still keep wondering if he ate something he wasn’t suppose to or swallowed something a little too big for and it’s just irritated and inflamed his system. I guess also just keep an eye on his poops and see if something he may have ate and didn’t digest well comes out. Keep us posted.

  • theBCnut

    That is definitely not what is going on with Micah, not at all. He has had acid reflux issues in the past as a puppy before we got his food issues figured out and he was having IBS symptoms and it was nothing like what he is doing now.

  • theBCnut

    His stools are 100% normal, no mucous, which is one of his symptoms if something is going on bad enough to start the IBS. Yes, he did get doused with the spraying, and we have been trying to figure out if that could have played a role in it, but it doesn’t appear to have played a major role, hard to tell if it has contributed in a small way, but we treated him when the spraying happened.
    In my experience, if he can’t handle something for a few days in a row, then it is causing low grade issues even fed only once, so I always try new stuff for a couple weeks, just to make sure there is absolutely no reaction. He was on the Lamb and Pearl Millet for a full week with absolutely no signs of anything at all, then bam, so I’m just not sure. His usual progression is ear goop, eye goop, hot red skin, then itching and greasy coat. He has had none of that, none, but he sure has been pitiful. He hasn’t had anything to eat since 10pm last night, and he is acting almost normal now.

  • sue66b

    Sounds like Acid reflux, is his diet a bit too high in fat, this can cause stomach acid, with the hacking Patch was doing that & he’d bring up thick spit, I’d try & pull it out of his mouth before he’d swollow it again but it was so thick, the vet thought it was acid reflux & he’d burp & the acid was then burning his throat, so then he was trying to get it up by hacking, he sounded like an old car that was running on 2 spark plug also when its happening again try a medicine for acid reflux & see if he feels better & feed a lower fat diet maybe just 1 cooked meat a real bland diet for a couple of weeks just to see if he feels better & it all stops, cut out any oils & other things that he has, just till you work out whats wrong….. it would be soooo good it they could talk & tell us whats wrong..

  • Dori

    Are his poops covered in mucous? Let’s hope it’s just a weird intolerance
    to the millet. I just can’t figure out what would have caused all those other symptoms at the same time. I know when Katie’s having intolerance issues aside from the general all over scratching what she does get is poops coated in mucous, but she doesn’t get the hacking trying to vomit issue. Is it possible it caught some little critter outside and ate something he shouldn’t have? Is that even a possibility? He didn’t get doused with whatever chemicals they’re spraying for mosquitos at night? I’m trying to go over all of Katie’s typical reactions to grain. The last time she had a mucous poop was a while back when I tried the Victors Grain Free. I hadn’t even paid attention to the fact that it contained something she couldn’t have. PLEASE let me know if and when you figure it out. I hate when everything is going along smoothly and then BAM out of nowhere something happens. How many days in a row did he have the millet? Maybe that’s all it is. Too many days in a row? Let’s just keep our fingers crossed and pray.

  • DogFoodie

    Keep us posted! Poor Micah!

  • theBCnut

    I think I spoke too soon. Ever since this post Micah has had a strange group of symptoms. He’s been mopey off and on, ocassionally hacking like he wants to vomit, drooling, and producing this thick sticky mucous. I’ve looked into every possible stomach issue, blockage, kennel cough, etc, but today I’m taking him off of the food with millet. It will be interesting to see if that clears it up. He hasn’t showed any of his normal food issue symptoms, but these can be symptoms of a true allergy that isn’t severe enough for hives etc. yet. I sure hope that that’s what the problem is, because we are about at our wits end trying to figure this out

  • Ferallike

    Maltese are notorious for tear duct staining. My grandmother was a show groomer for over 30 years and this was the most common complaint of Maltese and white poodle owners. She told me of a few owners who tried insane ideas like using 40-60 volume peroxide (human hair bleach) around their dogs’ eyes with disastrous results.
    Maltese are particularly prone to ear duct staining because they have so much hair around their eyes which creates a very moist breeding ground for bacteria and yeasts. One of the more common causes is a yeast called Ptyrosporin that can cause a red-brown stain around the eye. Also, it’s been estimated approximately 20% of Maltese puppies are born with their lower tear ducts closed. This can cause the other tear ducts to overcompensate for the closed lower tear ducts in order to keep the eye sufficiently moist which exacerbates the staining problem. In most cases, irrigating the eye with a veterinarian approved optical solution will take care of it. In extreme cases, those lower tear ducts may require surgery to be opened.

    Talk to your veterinarian about this to see if your Maltese has blocked eye ducts, a bacterial infection or a Ptyrosporin yeast infection.

    There are several “treatments” on the market for tear duct staining. If you decide to try any of these treatments, please ask your vet about them to make sure they are safe. Too many snake oil salesman are out there selling “miracles” for conditions like these that are not at all safe to use around a dog’s eyes.

  • Bobby dog

    I am glad your dogs are doing better, but I just wanted to write I love the names of your dogs! ;)

  • Ferallike

    Gergana, regarding your suspicions of yeast: our dachshund, Strudel, had all the problems you describe with your Boston terrier: very flaky skin, scooting from itchy butt and horrible year round shedding (which is very unusual for dachshunds.) He also had constant ear infections that persisted despite daily cleaning with a veterinary prescribed ear cleaning solution and medications.

    After years of dealing with these issues, our vet told us that a Veterinary Journal article was published showing a possible link between wheat gluten and the issues plaguing Strudel. (This was in 2002 btw) Our vet recommended eliminating any food containing wheat and wheat gluten. We put Strudel and his half brother, Schnitzel, on wheat free dog food and treats. Strudel’s shedding, scooting, flaky skin and ear infections cleared up.

    Strudel also had a cardiac condition called Mitral Valve Prolapse, which was treated with a medication called Enalapril under the care of a Veterinary Cardiologist, Dr William Tyrrell in Northern Virginia. He would do an annual Echocardiogram on Strudel to gauge how the valve was responding to the Enalapril. We were prepared for the inevitability that the Mitral Valve Prolapse would develop into Congestive Heart Failure since there is no way to reverse or surgically treat MVP in dogs.

    However, after taking Strudel off of all food and treats containing wheat and wheat gluten, the next Echocardiogram performed approximately 7 months later came back with “spectacular results” as Dr. Tyrrell put it.

    Dr Tyrrell said if he was seeing Strudel for the first time and Strudel had had the same Echocardiogram results, he would not have put him on Enalapril because the Echo showed far less regurgitation in the Mitral valve. In prior Echocaridograms, the Enalapril had been consistently effective in reducing the regurgitation in the valve but never enough to consider taking Strudel off the medication.

    We told Dr Tyrrell, our regular vet had suggested we take Strudel off of foods containing wheat and wheat gluten and how much this had helped with his skin, itchy butt, shedding and ear infections. I don’t know if this had a direct impact on the MVP, but taking Strudel off wheat and wheat gluten was the only change in his diet.

    You might consider taking your Boston Terrier off of Royal Canin Puppy Medium Chiot dry food which has both wheat gluten and wheat in it and try another wheat free food for at least a few months. It took about 6-8 weeks for Strudel’s maladies (the itchy butt, horrible shedding, skin flakiness and ear infections) to go away so be patient if you decide to try this.

  • theBCnut

    Micah can’t have any of the Nature’s Logic formulas. Canine Caviar Holistic Lamb and Pearl Millet doesn’t have anything on his list though. It’s lower protein than I like, but most of the kibbles he can have are, and I do feed half raw.

  • Bob K

    Agree with Ferallike – Do you have any records on fecal tests for the puppy? If not, have a complete fecal done and make sure your puppy is up to date on all pupppy vaccinations. Also make sure your puppy is not eating any grass, dirt, outside water or getting into pesticide or herbicide treated soil or grass.

  • Ferallike

    A few questions. Did the breeder tell you what food they were feeding the puppy? Are you feeding the same food that the breeder was feeding your Corgi? A sudden and complete switch of food brands/types can cause loose stools. When you switch foods, it’s best to do a gradual switch by initially feeding 3/4 of each meal with the original food and 1/4 of new food and gradually decreasing original food and increasing new food over a period of at least a week or longer. When we’ve had to switch, we’ve done this gradual switch over a period of 2 weeks with no loose stools.

  • Dori

    What was, or is, the food with millet that Micah can eat? Nature’s Logic Sardine formula is the only one of the brand that she can eat.

  • Pia Silva

    new puppy at our house…a Pembroke Corgi, 8 weeks old. She has had loose stools and I am looking for a super great puppy kibble. Any suggestions?

  • theBCnut

    I finally found a food with millet that didn’t have any of Micah’s other triggers, so he’s been eating it for a week now. So far, so good. Whenever I try a new ingredient on him, I try to give it for a while to make sure. So far, it’s the only grain he has had no reaction to.

  • Dori

    OH! Since you told me this morning that millet was a grain I’ve been wondering why Katie isn’t bothered by Nature’s Logic. Now I know. I can’t feed it too often, actually only is my husband has to feed the dogs, but Katie can’t eat anything more than maybe once or twice a week. That’s what’s caused the rotation at our house with every single meal. I’m thinking Hannah and Lola are benefiting from Katie’s allergies and intolerances. Again, thank you.

  • theBCnut

    Millet also doesn’t often cause the problems that other grains cause, even Micah can have millet.

  • theBCnut

    Keep ingredient lists and try a few different foods. Make notes on how he does on each food and compare ingredient lists. That way you should be able to figure out which ingredients he is reacting to. Feeding variety is best, but you do need to learn which ingredients to avoid.

  • Mari

    Thank you! I didn’t think it could have been the chicken because I had to feed him boiled chicken and rice and he was fine then!

  • Mari

    Thank you so much!

  • Bob K

    Mari – The 4health puppy is a Lamb based kibble. Perhaps stick with another lamb based Large puppy kibble like Diamond Natural Large Breed Puppy (No corn, wheat or soy). Nutro Ultra Large Breed Puppy is Chicken based. Remember to transition slowly to a new kibble

  • Bobby dog

    Hi Mari:
    Large and giant breed puppies have certain nutritional requirements that should be met. You will find the information you are looking for on the Large and Giant Breed forum. The first link is an introduction to the subject and the second link is to a page with foods. Look for a post from Hound Dog Mom dated July 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm. You will find a link to a document with recommended foods for large/giant breed puppies. Good luck!

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/large-and-giant-breed-puppy-nutrition/

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/large-and-giant-breed-puppy-nutrition/page/73/

  • Dori

    You’re absolutely right BC. I always forget about the millet in Nature’s Logic. I think I was also concentrating on the “no peas” aspect of her question and missed the “grain free”. Thanks for catching that my error.

  • Mari

    I have a 4 month old english mastiff. Started on 4health puppy formula which is what he was fed when we got him. We tried to switching to Nutro Ultra Large breed puppy but started noticing a rash so we stopped and are back on 4health. Im thinking it was the whole grains in it so I am looking for a new grain free food that will give him the best benefits and a long life! any advice would be great! thankyou!

  • Storm’s Mom

    Addiction Viva La Venison is the pea-free, grain-free option in Storm’s rotation.

    https://www.addictionfoods.com/products/dog-formulas/dry/viva-la-venison

    It’s lower in protein than I’d like, so I top it with a higher protein, pea-free, grain-free canned food, too.

  • theBCnut

    Nature’s Logic has millet, so I just don’t think of it as grain free. Millet is an ancient grain, but still a grain. Right?

  • Dori

    Nature’s Logic

  • theBCnut

    Nature’s Variety Instinct

  • melissa

    Anyone know of a grain free without peas. Yep green peas is the issue here. Seems all grain free food is loaded with peas!

  • melissa

    Earthborn Holistic makes grain free. It has 3 flavors with no poultry meadow feast,coastal catch and great plains. It didn’t work for my pup. But I have recently found out his issue is peas of all things

  • 4FootedFoodie

    No, Nature’s Variety Instinct Limited Ingredient Diets are fish free.

  • Leigh Anne Lauderdale

    I didn’t remember seeing salmon oil in the list of ingredients. I had been feeding him Fromm for over a year, and because his stools were always loose, that’s what prompted me to look at the back of the bag again. Every time I share my wild caught salmon with him, it gave him diarrhea, so that is how I identified that he was sensitive to it. There actually arent that many all life stages grain free food w/o fish. That’s what brought me here. Sigh. I’m thinking of switching to The Honest Kitchen and adding a supplement. He is just picky about supplements, he doesnt like the powders, treats, or essential oils, and he already takes benadryl and thyroid medication so I dont really want to cram a bunch of additional supplements down his throat. However, somebody suggested Nupro to me.

  • Leigh Anne Lauderdale

    Nature’s Variety all have some type of fish product in them :(

  • Leigh Anne Lauderdale

    Thanks Pickle!!

  • Bob K

    Leigh – How about loosening your criteria a bit. How about no fish grain free senior – You can get all sorts of supplements for hip/joint. or No fish, Large Breed Grain free. Why were you giving him Fromm if it had salmon oil? How did you determine Salmon Oil was the cause of loose stools? There are many excellent “All Life stages” grain free with no fish.

  • 4FootedFoodie

    I also have a Golden who is fish intolerant, so I understand your frustration. After much research and much trial and error, I have found some foods that work well for him. My pup’s fish intolerance is complicated by the fact that he’s also intolerant of flax, chickpeas and lentils. Some dry, fish free foods that I found that also don’t contain flax, chickpeas or lentils are Nature’s Variety Instinct Limited Ingredient Diet (GF), California Natural Lamb & Rice (not GF), TOTW Sierra Mountain (GF) (a Diamond product), and Canidae Pure Sky (GF) (a Diamond product). Some grain free varieties of dry foods that are fish free, but may contain flax, chickpeas or lentils are Brother’s Complete, Go! Sensitivity + Shine GF Turkey and several varieties of Nature’s Recipe and The Honest Kitchen.

    Personally, I’d choose to add supplements for joint health rather than trying to rely on getting a therapeutic dose from a dry food.

  • Cyndi

    I’m sure others will comment too, but off the top of my head you should try Nature’s Variety Instinct, canned would be better for the added moisture. They are all grain free, I believe and All Life Stages. You can always add a separate hip/joint support supplement for him.

    Nature’s Variety also has a Limited Ingredient formula. Also, you can try adding probiotics and digestive enzymes and canned pure pumpkin to help with the transition. Maybe the other foods you switched too quickly and that caused the loose stools. Just a thought. Good luck!

  • pickle

    Wholesome blend grain free feather & fowl is fish free and is rated five stars.

  • Leigh Anne Lauderdale

    I have gone thru just about every brand listed under best grain free dog foods. I have a 10 year old golden retriever that has sensitivity to fish products (salmon oil, oceanfish, etc.) What I am “ideally” looking for:
    -Grain Free
    -Senior
    -Large Breed (or added hip/joint support)
    -No fish products
    Does anybody have any suggestions. I am at a total loss, and want to find the best choice. He is currently eating commercial dry food (We recently switched from Fromm grain free bc it contained salmon oil and gave him loose stools, and now I am feeding him Pure Vita Grain Free. Would appreciate any insight, suggestions, or advice.

  • theBCnut

    My dog has food sensitivities to chicken and grains too, so I went to chewy.com and their website lets you search for grain free or chicken free on the side bar once you get to the dog food page. If I were you I would tell it to eliminate foods with chicken from the list and then read names for the term grain free. You’ll find many, many choices.

  • http://instagram.com/bella_and_mia Shaina

    Thanks Dori! I’ve been trying to switch my dogs to a higher quality food for over a month now and I just haven’t been able to find the right one. And your’e absolutely right about it being exhausting finding a food with no poultry, that has been my #1 roadblock in my search. Thanks again for your recommendation! I’m gonna go check out Natures Logic now:)

  • POODLEMOMMA1

    to be honest with you I get a gallon jug and I pretty much squirt half of the 16 ounce bottle of the Dr Bronner’s peppermint soap and then as far as the oils I just kind of put them in as I feel like maybe half the bottle but then I mix it all up with water fill the rest of the jug with water I mean then it’s a really good and then from that mix what I do is I make sure I add as were of regular old fashioned blue Dawn dish soap to another bottle and then I dump a the witches brew as I call it from the gallon jug, using an empty container now like an old dish soap bottle and then I put a squirt of the Dawn dish soap in and I at half which is rude if I didn’t already say that to the empty bottle that you’ve added this word on now half of the witches brew in that bottle then you’re going to dilute it with water again if you don’t want it too strong and your babies. and then just use it but keep it away from your eyes that is the most important thing it but I’ll tell you I’ve never had bad luck with it I literally have never had bad luck the only thing I’ve ever had to do is change my formula and not use neem oil because one of the walls Terriers I take care of is allergic to neem oil so I quit using neem oil in my witches brew. but you’ll get it to where you like it better you may want to add more of the Dr Bonners Castile peppermint soap or less you know do it at your discretion that’s why I use a squirt of Dawn dish soap. I’ve had dogs at the vet says tried cortisone shots everything for skin conditions you name it and it’s cleared it up and within a couple weeks so good luck. and I’m not on this very often so if you want to contact me directly you can do that at [email protected]. good luck and if you have any questions just give me a shout take care and good luck

  • Dori

    Nature’s Logic makes a quality grain free dog food. One of my girls (5 year old Maltipoo) is allergic to everything under the sun. Poultry is a biggy. She does well on Nature’s Logic Sardine dry formula. My dogs are on raw diets but if I’m in a pinch and someone squeamish has to feed my dogs, I use Nature’s Logic Sardine. Good luck. It’s exhausting finding foods that contain no poultry whatsoever in their ingredients. That’s what led me to the switch of commercial raw diets for my dogs. As I said, Katie has a lot of food allergies and intolerances.

  • megs

    Hi! I have a BUG (pug/ boston terrier mix) who is currently on Blue Buffalo Basics Duck. He has a chicken sensitivity and we love this food but it’s just really expensive. The kibbles are larger so there isn’t as much in the bag as one might think. Anyone have any suggestions of something comparable? Petsmart has their brand that they refer to as the “poor mans blue buffalo” but that food has to many crumbs. I want to make sure my little man has the best but doesn’t put me out of a home, lol

  • http://instagram.com/bella_and_mia Shaina

    Hi i’m looking for a 4-5 star grain free food with no poultry in it. I have a four year old Lhasa Apso and a two year old Shih Tzu and Poultry makes my Lhasa itch like crazy. Any recommendations would be great! Thanks.

  • Gergana Nikolova

    Thanks Montana, you pronouncing it so well ;) I will change the Cesar with something good! And thanks to all of good ppl here he is doing better already ;)

  • Gergana Nikolova

    :) thanks

  • Maggie Baker

    Thank you for the info! I thought it was a 5-star! At least I was correct in that it is grain free so it is better for puppies than most brands of food.

  • miss montana

    Gergana…great name by the way, hope I’m pronouncing it correctly!…

    dump the Cesar for sure and find a good grain free wet to add. Wellness and Newman’s Own and many others these days, make very simple, limited ingredient wet foods.

    Boston’s are so sweet.
    best to you and your liitle guy

  • miss montana

    I never recommend Iam’s since hearing about their animal testing — as in, breaking puppies legs to see how well they will heal with the food…DISGUSTING

  • theBCnut

    I think the best Iams dry food is only 3 1/2 stars. It is their grain free though.

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/iams-grain-free-naturals/

    These are all 4 and 5 star foods.

  • Nancy ONeill

    No Iams products listed here. Are they not recommended?

  • theBCnut

    The shedding may have to do with the time of year. I live in FL too, and my Jack Russell has started her fall shed recently. Bostons are known for dry skin, so the fish oil should help, but you may want to try giving fish oil on one day and coconut oil on the next. Coconut oil works differently, but is really good for skin, but I don’t think you should overload his system with too much oil each day though.
    Your English is really pretty good.

  • Gergana Nikolova

    We will try anything, thanks for your help!

  • Gergana Nikolova

    I bath him in a bath tub, he loves water. We also bring him to the ocean once on every 2-3 weeks but he doesn’t like the water there I guess just because the salt, so he doesn’t swim. All your questions make me think and it could be a bacteria or an allergy, but I still want to start from somewhere couple days ago I started him on a fish oil once a day, now ordered a food and shampoo from the other advice and I’ll be to the vet soon again, but It looks like the vet it’s not educated enough and also not helpful that’s why I decide to ask ppl with experience. Forgot to mentioned my Boston is Blue and for them is really common issue the skin problem, lately just a week ago he start shedding so bad. Before I never see a single hair now all our home is covered with it. ( sorry about my broken English ;) )

  • Gergana Nikolova

    He is 7 months old Boston Terrier. The problem just start a month ago, when we for first time see what ppl call “itchy butt” I start reading some info here and there, so we thought all was it from his glands. we went to see a vet he didn’t take a skin scrape and told as to neuter him and that will solve the problem, so we did, but didn’t solve the problem . He got his doggy door two months ago, we have small back yard all just grass never treat with chemicals. The dog can stay in and out but we live in Florida and it’s to hot for him outside, let say he can spend total 1-2 hours a day outside, he also have a baby plastic pool full of water which can dry his skin too. He sleeps inside in his bed. His food is Royal Canin Puppy Medium Chiot dry food and one square of Cesar wet for dinner. We use Sulfodene Medicated Shamoo and conditioner plus I spray him with Hydrocortisone+Aloe since I see flakes coming out of his skin. About the yeast I do not know is he has it, after reading so many things I just pointed it like a problem.

  • Gergana Nikolova

    Thanks a lot! I will order food and shampoo NOW. Will start him on it as soon as possible!

  • Sean
  • sue66b

    Try & find a low carb kibble with no potatos, fish being main protein only, Holistic Select Anchovy, Sardines & Salmon meal is suppose to be excellent for ichy,dry, skin & Malaseb medicated shampoo, it kills any bacteria on their skin but doesnt strip the good oils, I bath my boy weekly or as soon as he starts rubbing & rolling on the carpet, I know its bath time, after his bath he’s all comfortable & happy again.

  • Bob K

    How long has your dog had these problems? Have you been to a vet for skin scrape? How do you know it is a yeast issue? What are you feeding your dog currently? Where does your dog live and sleep? How do you bathe your dog? What do you bathe your dog with? Does your dog swim in a lake? Exposure to herbicides and pesticides? Are you sure? How much time does your dog spend outside? Food is only one piece of the puzzle. There are also special dog shampoos available from your vet. There are also certified Vet dermatologists with ACVD credentials.

  • Gergana Nikolova

    Hi, if any of you guys know a good 5 stars food to help yeast, shedding, and skin condition, please help with advice! Thanks

  • theBCnut

    Those are tear and/or saliva stains and don’t have to do with dyes. Some people suggest that they have to do with particular ingredients, but since different people claim different ingredients, I tend to think it might have more to do with how a particular dog does on a particular food.
    They also say that it is a bacteria, and for many dogs, a course of bacteria does tend to clear it up temporarily, but I would never recommend using antibiotics for something that a change in diet ought to take care of.
    You may have to try a few different foods to figure out what works for them.

  • See olson

    I have a Maltese and a Shar-Pei. The Shar-Pei has a chronic yeast infection and needs to be on a grain free no carb diet. They are currently on Zignature Dog Food. This food must have dye in it as it leaves my Maltese dogs face brown and it does not come out when bathed or groomed. Does anyone know of a good grain free food to feed them?

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Maggie, this page is for the best grain free dog foods. So only 5 star foods appear here. 4health get 4 stars. You can see the review here. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/4health-dog-food-dry/

  • Maggie Baker

    We use 4Health(I think that’s what it is) from Tractor Supply. I’m not finding it on here. Does this mean it’s a grain?? Or does this mean it’s not a good quality?? I was told it was one of the better ones but now I’m beginning to wonder!

  • Bob K

    Ones that are affordable and available in your area that are rated 4.5 or 5 stars. Check out Farm & Fleet, Fleet Farm, Tractor Supply as one possible source.

  • Crazy4cats

    The joint and health formula of grain free Victor comes in 50 lb. bags if you can order it or have it in your area.

  • LabsRawesome

    You’re welcome! :)

  • Ann

    Can someone tell me the best grain free dog food that comes in a big bag? Trying to feed 4 Boxers and most grain free dog foods I find does not come in a big enough bag. Looking for 40 or 50 pounds I can buy at a time.

  • Non-PC

    Thanks for your input. I’ll be going back to using Orijen. I suspected it might not be that great a product by the evidence of my dog’s poop which is why I wanted feedback

  • theBCnut

    That’s pretty much the price of going organic.

    Sent from my iPod

  • Melanie

    I am not an expert on this but my lab lost weight on Victor’s grain free Yukon formula. He didn’t need to loose weight so I took him off of it. Very affordable food if you can find it and he loved it. People on this site have really good things to say about Victor dogfood.

  • LabsRawesome

    The organic recipe only receives 3 stars. I wouldn’t buy that formula, it’s nearly vegetarian. It only has one meat ingredient, organic chicken. There’s no meal listed. So not much meat in the organic formula at all. And with only 22% protein and 12% fat it’s too low in both instances to be good for a normal dog. It might be ok for a sick dog that had pancreatitis or something. http://www.kirklandsignaturepetsupplies.com/natures-domain-brand

  • LabsRawesome

    The organic one only receives 3 stars. I wouldn’t buy that formula, it’s nearly vegetarian. It only has one meat ingredient, organic chicken. There’s no meal listed at all. so not much meat in the organic formula at all. http://www.kirklandsignaturepetsupplies.com/natures-domain-brand

  • TiffanyB

    Very possible he has atopic dermatitis, which is an allergy to just about anything – grass, pollen, dirt, dander, mold in the home, etc. I work for a vet and would recommend frequent baths with cool (not warm) water and oatmeal shampoo to calm the skin. I have an English Bully with atopic derm and it’s taken a few months, but he’s getting better. If you don’t want to switch to a food rich in fish oils, I would recommend getting some fish oil pills – that has greatly improved my boys skin and coat. He still itches, but I also use a lavender anti-itch calming spray on his hot spots and that seems to help as well. :)

  • theBCnut

    Here you go
    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/natures-domain-dog-food/
    I don’t think this is the organic one, which is new, so it might take a while for Dr Mike to get to it.

    Nope, I was wrong, the organic chicken and pea is included.

  • Non-PC

    I would like Natural Domain Organic, grain free dog food analyzed, please. I bought it at CostCo

  • Dori

    How much does she weigh? Also, have you had her teeth checked by a vet? It could be that she is having an issue with teeth or gums. That will definitely cause bad breath. Is 1/4 cup all she eats all day long? That seems like very little food imo. Have you tried other grain free foods?

  • http://www.massagelafayette.com Danielle clowngirl

    Hi I have a 9 year old beagle. All is fine, except she needs to lose weight and has bad breath. I brush a few x a week and give her occassional halves of a breath bone. But the weight. She eats 1/4 cup of Nutrish wheat free dry and a splash of makrel with sometime a dash of spirulina or that supplement for drippy eyes. We walk on our land alot and she runs to the bayou to chase boats..but still needs to drop a few.
    help please

  • Sean

    I would switch. Not a huge difference in quality (as far as ratings go) and the savings seem worth it.

  • Miriam

    My cocker spaniel mix had the same problem. I started bathing her with selson blue and I started feeing her Blue buffalo grain free dry dog food. Although the blue buffalo is a great dog food, it is also very expensive. After talking to a petsmart store rep I switched to Authority’s grain free dry food. All of my dogs skin allergies have disappeared. Now I use head and shoulders on her but she eats the same food. I know it’s definitely the dog food. Good luck!

  • Kelly

    Our (almost) 1 year old Golden Retriever is on Taste of the Wild (salmon) puppy food right now. We are going to transition him to adult food soon. He LOVES his food right now, but we saw at Costco the Kirkland Signature Nature’s Domain Salmon Meal & Sweet Potato for almost half the price but same amount of food. It is also grain free. Any thoughts or suggestions about this??

  • Laura

    My Westie had severe yeast problems where he lost most of his hair. The vets prescribed all sorts of medications, but I researched it and I’m now feeding him Taste of the Wild ( no beef or chicken ) grain free. He gets fruits and veggies as treats and loves it. Only grain free, soy, wheat and corn free commercial treats. The important thing is to feed them something acidic to counteract the yeast. I put apple cider vinegar in his water and/or sprinkle some lemon juice on his fruits and veggies. He is gorgeous now!

  • Laura

    Try Taste of The Wild fish, venison or buffalo. No grains. My Nitro has improved 100%.

  • Heather

    Picky eater I meant

  • Heather

    My 6 yo yellow lab started having seizures. He is on medicine but I also heard that a gluten free diet could help prevent seizures too. Has anyone heard of this? He is a picky water to begin with too what is a good gluten free dog food?

  • Sean

    Hi, if it has rice it’s definitely not grain free. Whole Earth Farms has a poultry-free lamb/beef formula that might be worth looking at.

  • Joshua David Snyder

    I have a cocker spaniel about six yrs old and he is great except for itching, scratching , chewing and biting himself constantly ….it’s like several times an hr,- I’ve taken him off chicken because that’s a wel known allergy for spaniels I’ve also went to fish oil pills …..nothing seems to be working ….he is on hills science diet adult advanced fitness lamb meal and rice formula does anyone have any info or suggestions about this? The food says grain free …however I’m not sure about that,-could this be a meat allergy or a grain allergy?

  • stephanie

    Yes way too touchy if you ask me! Lol! I could understand if I was trying to defend some crap like gravy train or dog chow, as that’s absolutely in no way related to these discussions. Thank you for your comment. Much appreciated :-)

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hey Stephanie –

    Don’t worry about it. You’re perfectly entitled to be posting on this thread. The OP asked for opinions on Diamond and you gave yours. It’s only natural for discussions to get a little off topic. I don’t know why some people get so touchy about it. :)

  • Jeremy

    All I’m saying is that this is the “best grain free food” thread and the food you are suggesting is not grain free, that’s all. I know not all dogs need grain free, that’s why there isn’t just one perfect dog food that works for every dog. I’m just stating that the food you suggest isn’t grain free, it’s a fine food if you ignore where they source their ingredients and their history of recalls. I’m not trying to be mean or tell you the food is bad, just trying to make sure people know it’s a grain inclusive food. That’s all

  • sue66b

    Hi Paula, maybe increase her food sounds like she is still hungry, also maybe try a kibble that has rice in it..It might fill her more & last longer before she gets hungry again..

  • stephanie

    I enjoy reading posts on here because it’s nice to read other consumers experiences and opinions on food. I guess according to you since I don’t feed a 100% grain free food, I shouldn’t be on here. Not all people are in need of a 100% grain free food, such as myself, since my dog has a corn allergy. I would assume its common since I have worked with hundreds upon hundreds of dogs, whom mostly had corn, wheat or soy allergies if any. My dog I have spoken of does wonderfully on Diamond Extreme Athlete and it’s very affordable. Jeremy I am sorry for imposing on your grain free thread, as my food does not fit your standards and approval.

  • Paula Gonzalez

    I have had 6 year old chocolate lab since she was 5 weeks old. She has developed skin allergies so my vet recommended trying grain free dog food. I have tried blue wilderness, iams grain free and diamond grain free. Every since she’s been on the grain free diet she gets into the trash whenever she gets a chance. She has always been a very well behaved dog and I’ve never had a problem until I switched her to the grain free diet. Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

  • Jeremy

    http://www.diamondpet.com/our-brands/diamond-naturals/extreme-athlete/

    If this is what you feed it does have rice and barley to it, which are usually not an issue with most dogs. If you are looking for a food with a high energy formula there are some grain free foods you could try. For the most energy the EVO brand dog food is all over 500 Kcal per cup, and one of the lowest dry matter basis carb counts you can find. Not to mention they will tell you where they source their ingredients versus Diamond who I still haven’t heard back from on that matter. Not trying to be nit-picky but this is a grain free thread. Have a great day!

  • Steampunk Sweetheart

    I use the grain lamb and rice or Small Bites 4Health (my dogs don’t especially need grain free). They’re not fans of the salmon, but I have heard from people with “bully” breeds (especially boxers) who are prone to…um…gas attacks…that either version of the 4Health salmon and sweet potato clears the problem up. And I love that it’s so much less than the name brands. The small bites keeps my pudgy Corgi from packing on weight the way the cheap foods can without spending a fortune-I do like Costco, too, but right now the nearest one is 100 miles away!. (I admit, I DO spring for Blue Buffalo’s walnut-shell cat litter. Their food’s overpriced, but the litter performs exactly as advertised.)

  • stephanie

    Never had skin problems on it. My ridgeback doesn’t like fish so I would be somewhat screwed if he did have skin problems. He has an allergy to corn. The bag says grain free but as long as there’s no corn he can have it. Most kibble with no corn just doesn’t have enough fat for him to maintain on.

  • Jeremy

    Both of these foods are manufactured by the Diamond company, they’ve been involved in some recalls over the years so you may want to contact the company and make sure they don’t source any ingredients form China just to be safe :) Cheers!

  • Jeremy

    Hi Stephanie, I just wanted to let you know that the extreme athlete variety of Diamond isn’t actually a grain free food. It’s a chicken and rice formula, which is fine as long as your dog doesn’t have any itchy skin. grain free doesn’t make a dog food better than a grain inclusive formula, it’s just that some dogs do better without any grains in their food. Diamond naturals isn’t a bad food, but they have had a past history of recalls. I don’t know where they source all their ingredients, but you can always try to contact the company to make sure they don’t source anything from China or other questionable places.

  • sue66b

    Hi Emily change their diet, a kibble without wheat, potatoes, peas… “Holistic Select” Anchovy,Sardine & Salmon meal is really good for skin problems, You need a low carb diet,to stop feeding the yeast, people say grain free but a lot of grainfree kibbles have Potatos, sweet potatoes & peas, Id rather have a kibble with rice then pototos & peas….also tin sardines in spring water are good….

  • Guest

    Military dogs deserve better nutrition than Science Hills Diet.

  • Tmsiems

    I agree this is pretty good stuff, I have used it and really like it. It is high quality and good prices. I have a show dog that is rare breed who can get spots if he is exposed to fleas. Grain free food has kept this condition under control and we have not had any spots. I find if I change back to non grain free food and it is allergy seasons there is a chance/possibility of chewing or scratching and we don’t want his coat to deteriorate.
    I was pleasantly surprised with (4 Health).
    I didn’t have to travel distances to get my regular grain free from Costco and it had the same nutritional content as my other grain free Salmon and Sweet Potato variety. They have a similar style in fish and potato which didn’t cause the dogs to itch or scratch which in Central FL is a tremendous help. I is nice to know there is alternatives that will not break the bank when we need dog food. Give it a try, you just may save some money and find a great food.

  • Caroline Capobianco

    I am feeding my Great Dane half raw and half Brother’s Complete Turkey and Egg kibble. He is doing wonderful on it!

  • VanLee

    I haven been breeding and showing Huskies, Labs and Vizslas for over 30 years and I am an AKC Breeder of Merit and an AKC Judge. I was introduced to the Farmina N&D foods by an other breeder/exhibitor three months ago and the performance of these foods is amazing. Fantastic palatability, wonderful coats, clean dry ears and eyes and easy clean-up. These foods are so much better than all the private label co-packed foods that seem to grow like mushrooms and a few that get all the press like the ones made in Canada, hint hint. Farmina N&D is totally terrific and the best around in my opinion.

  • Max

    My dog is eating Acana small breed, which is 20% grain. I am thinking of switching him onto Acana regionals and go completely grain-free. The problem is, we give him blue bone dental chews (Blue Buffalo) which has grains. Will it make him sick if he has his blue bones on a grain-free diet?

  • Emily Maze

    They have been eating Pedigree Adult complete for about almost 2 years.

  • stephanie

    I feed Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete. Have fed it for years and love it! Much more affordable than most premium brands and my dogs look great and love the taste. I started on it because my ridgeback was young, full of energy and VERY lean. He also could not have corn. All other grain free kibble did not have enough of a fat content for him to gain or even maintain his weight. This was the best combination of grain free/ high protein/ high fat that I could find and it worked like a charm. Never had any problems and he looks great. My Whippet and Great Pyrenees also eat this and do wonderful on it. Everyone is at show weight and coats look great.

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Hi Emily,

    What are they eating and how long have they been eating it?

  • Emily Maze

    Hi. I have 2 Chinese Shar-Pei. They get seasonal allergies, but have developed a serious yeast problem. I have been researching a lot about the subject and have started to disinfect the skin with an iodine solution everyday. I am not sure what kind of pet food to feed them. I know what they are eating now is terrible and probably the root of the problem, but I need something reasonably priced. Are there other foods I can give them? I have started them on yogurt with probiotics, but also thought about giving them hard boiled eggs for the added protein. Please, any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

  • Barbara

    Please get away from feeding Purina Fit and Trim as fast as you can. I recommend Victor’s grain free. If you go to the Victor dog food site victordogfood.com you might find a feed store near you where you can get it very reasonably. I have to order on-line so it runs me quite a bit more. Since one of my dogs was overweight I used the DFA calculator to find out how many calories she needed. She was 85 lbs and needed to get down to 75 lbs so she gets 1 cup of Victors grain free with 1/3 to 1/2 can of Kirklands ND Turkey and Pea stew twice a day. I do add a tbs of nonfat plain yogurt and a little water to the dry and she only gets a couple of tbs of 100% pumpkin puree for treats a day. Hopefully others on this site can recommend other reasonable priced foods as well. Good luck!

  • Aireal

    Has anyone heard about Diamond dry dog foods?

  • sue66b

    Hi Chris what foods have you tried alot of the grainfree foods have Potatos & potato is a high carb, google high carb foods & try to eliminate them from her diet.
    “Holistic Select” Adult health Anchovy,Sardines & Salmon meal is excellent for itchy skin has no potatos & kibble is nice a small…

  • 4FootedFoodie

    It sounds like you may have only been using fish oil for about three days. If it’s going to help, it’ll take longer than that before you start noticing a difference in her skin / itching. You also need to be careful with dosing fish oil. You need to ease a dog into it as too much too soon can cause loose stool. You can also try adding an egg, lightly cooked in coconut oil, a couple of times per week.

  • chris

    i have tried the fish oil and she still itches

  • Walt Lonsdale

    Try California Natural. It helped us.

  • Jillian Spencer

    I have a pure bred golden retriever who is 8 years old and although healthy she is overweight by about 15 lbs. I am trying to find the best dog food for her that is lower in calories and also in carbs but isn’t ridiculously expensive. I have been using Purina Fit and Trim for years but I know it’s full of processed crap and too many grains. Can anyone suggest one that is low cal, higher protein and moderately priced? Thanks so much!

  • Steampunk Sweetheart

    Tractor Supply’s premium brand (4Health) makes a grain-free version that’s much more affordable than most of the premium brands. I don’t use the dog formula (mine get along fine on the regular 4Health that includes grains and vegetables) but I will use their cat grain-free as cats can be much more sensitive than dogs and I have one who’s prone to hairballs who does much better on the grain-free formula.

  • Candyd

    I think that you might find what you need with a fish-based food, especially if it has a very high DHA and EPA content. But instead of trying another food, you can still simply add wild fish oil to your pug’s food and see if her skin condition improves.

  • Candyd

    I agree about carbohydrates, and vegetable protein content (especially coming from legumes, such as peas) is also something to watch. I advise to choose something which doesn’t include a large quantity of pea protein and where legumes aren’t the main carbohydrate source.

  • Rebecca Humphrey

    ACANA/ORIJEN …helped my boxer amazingly. Read my post above

  • Rebecca Humphrey

    I also have a white boxer with the same issues and the only food we have found helps is the Acana/Orijen … he is off meds. It has helped keep it under control. The fish (pacifica) has been the most successful. :-)

  • chris

    i have a pug she itches all the time what food is best for her

  • Dixie Robinson

    my pure breed 3 yr old boxer got deathly sick from a bad bag of hill’s science diet grain free salmon only a month and a half ago. and trust me when i say this…even the vets were beyond upset when the seen how in such a short time the grain free salmon made my dog that bad. they contacted science diet as well as i did. and they gave us nothing but grief and wanted to try to put it off on anything but their own food. when the dog was fine till she injested a bowl of the food. then lethargy and vomitting. the bag had fowl order and even my cat who usually will pounce at anything with a fish smell ran from the oder from the bag. it even tainted the container we kept it in..the odor did. that grain free crap is hidieous. and i will never risk the life of my service dog again with it. she is on another brand and alive, healthy and thankfully ok..no thanks to hill science diet grain free salmon

  • Lyn Shepherd

    Thank you I’ll check it out

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Lyn, Victor grain free Ultra Pro 42 has 17% Carbs. I pay $40 for a 30lb bag. If your interested, check their store locator. victordogfood.com

  • Lyn Shepherd

    Hi my boxer has had mast cell tumours removed in the past and suffers from seasonal skin allergies which requires a course of steroids to treat . I read that carbohydrates in kibble are not a great diet choice for him but he loves it ! Any suggestions of low carb kibble would be greatly appreciated !

  • JACK LINKERS

    Depending on how you consider pets and love you have for them, the effort in finding quality food will vary.

    Any pet is a living being that deserves same attention as a part of your family (health, care) but with their own pet place (not to humanize them). A dog stays a dog and has a master: YOU.

    Dog food for instance, is important as human food. The right question is: would you eat some stuff and some other not ? I’m not telling you have to cook a 3 courses meal with sirloin everyday but about the composition itself of the food.

    Royal Canin is the worst food you can give to your dogs. They are very good in marketing and sponsoring dog events, but their food is very bad (as 80% of pet food on the market).

    Look at the technical datasheet about your dog food and try to read between lines. For example : they say animal proteins… So it means it comes from any animal and any part (including bones). So basicaly, it means, they contain all the stuff that goes to the trash and certainly NOT meat. They also say animal fat, ok but what animal ? Evrey animal and every fat… again, the worst fat from beef, lamb and pork…

    You can see as well wheat, wheat flour, rice… they made of grain, which is not recommended for dogs.

    Hav a look at NUTRAM for example, they have their own chicken farms and use only chicken MEAT, chicken FAT, canadian fresh salmon (including oil) instead of fish protein (essentially bones) and fish oil (from dunno where).

    JOSERA is also an over the top pet food, they guarantee the meet they use is of human consumption quality. (A german brand not listed above).

    This is my opinion about pet food and especially for dogs. I know some may disagree and say, they would eat anything in the nature as lions in the bush, so what pet food you go for doesn’t matter. Well it’s their own opinion and conscience.

  • LabsRawesome

    Take a look at Victor. My 3 do great on it. I buy it local. I pay $40 for a 30lb bag of grain free Ultra Pro. I rotate with Yukon River and Active Dog & Puppy. victordogfood.com

  • Anastasia Ra

    Hello. We were feeding our two boxers Royal canine boxer food for 2 years. And I decided to switch to different brand because I heard that it’s better for dogs to eat grain free dog food. I’m out of food and still didn’t figure out what I need to get. They don’t have any health issues or allergy that I know of. I would appreciate your help.
    Ps. My male started to eat poop lately and I don’t know if he needs more food or not. After we fixed him he started gaining weight.

  • Cyndi

    Hills Science Diet Grain Free is only a 3 star food. The ones listed above are 4 or 5 star foods. Most of Hills Science Diet foods are crap.

  • Credit Warrior

    I am surprised that Hill’s Science Diet Grain Free is not on the list? Military dogs are only fed Science Diet products

  • Jess W

    That’s the problem. No one is entirely sure. When the shelter found him, his skin was awful and the vet suggested they feed him grain free food. The shelter started and his skin cleared up

  • Melissaandcrew

    Jess..what is he allergic to?

  • Jess W

    That’s great! Thanks for the advice, I will definitely look into that as an option!

  • Dori

    The only thing that turned my severe food allergy dog, Katie, around was switching her to commercial raw foods that are grain, corn, soy, poultry, white potato free foods. At 9 weeks old she was riddled with allergies, intolerances, sensitivities, etc. You name it, she had it. I switched her (and my other two dogs) to raw approx. 2 1/2 years ago. She is now 5 years old and no more scratching, yeasting ears, gas, bad breath, shedding. She looks great and feels great. It was a long long road to get to where we are now with Katie.

  • Jess W

    Hi, I am currently in the process of adopting a lab/rottie mix. He has very severe food allergies. I have been looking at the different types of grain free and limited ingredient food but getting a little overwhelmed. I don’t have a budget or brand preference, I would love some suggestions since the list is huge. Thanks!

  • Ben Bouman

    Thank you, I will look at that one. It was confirmed for me by 2 sources that the Zignature is a good one. No grain, no potato. They also suggested I look into Nutrisca, also grain and potato free. Hope to have her insulin regulated soon. Thanks for the feed back.

  • Melissaandcrew

    That is a hard question as dogs are so different. Last time I checked into it(when I had a diabetic dog) was the recc feeding protocol of low fat low card, high fiber and high protein. Avoid rice and corn due to higher glycemic ratings. Take a look at Acana Wild Prairie on the Acana website. It talks about blood sugar levels etc.

  • http://www.exfuzelife.com Jennifer Cunningham

    Brittany, with the larger dogs, also make sure his bowl is high enough that is can eat comfortably without taking in a lot of air which can cause bloat. If it is not comfortable to eat, then he won’t. Ours has to have grain free for sure along with my GSD so they all went grain free. Best wishes for you and your giant, lovable couch potato!

  • Ben Bouman

    Of course. First thing we noticed was she just was not being herself. Then came massive water intake and bed wetting and a lack of appetite. All of which I attributed to heat and old age. The massive weight loss was the final straw. We took in a urine sample and there it was. Blood was also done. She is also on antibiotics for her kidneys and liver as they appeared enlarged. We passed on a ultrasound of the kidneys and liver for now. We are working to find the right amount of insulin and diet.

  • sue66b

    Hi Ben, may I ask what was ur dogs symtoms, also what test was done to find that she had diabetes??

  • Ben Bouman

    My 12 year old female Lab recently was diagnosed with Diabetes. I just bought a bag of Zignature Trout and Salmon for her. I like the high protein, low carb aspect but might be a little high in fat. The people at my food store felt it be good for stabilizing her blood sugar due to its lack of potato. Her glucose curves are crazy. She spikes about 2 hours after her shot and never really seams to settle under 300.
    The question is: Is there a food that is best for diabetic dogs?

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Hi Brittany,

    That sounds great!

    I wish you could find out what he was eating before he came home with you and your boyfriend as I’d probably pick up a small bag of that to use while you were deciding on a food and to transition him to the new food. Chances are also that he’d eat whatever food that was.

    I would take a look at the list that aquariangt already linked to and choose a food from it. Here it is again: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwApI_dhlbnFTXhUdi1KazFzSUk/edit?pli=1

    Because your pup is a giant breed pup, he’ll reach maturity more slowly than a large breed pup would. For that reason, you should continue to feed him a controlled level of Calcium until he’s at least two years of age. The list includes 4 and 5 star foods that have 3.5g Calcium per 1,000 kcal. or less and are approved for growth or all life stages. You can read more about large and giant breed puppy nutrition here: http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/large-and-giant-breed-puppy-nutrition/. Excess Calcium can contribute to skeletal disorders include hip dysplasia. Continue to keep your pup lean as excess weight stresses growing joints.

    Of those foods on the list, some of my favorite brands are Dr. Tim’s, Earthborn Holistics, Wellness Core, Nature’s Variety Instinct and Fromm. They’re all excellent products from good, solid companies that have a history of transparency.

    All of those foods should be within the price range that you’re comfortable with.

    Once he’s fully grown, there are lots more to choose from!

  • Dori

    Wow!!! For $75.00 for a 25/30 lb. bag of dog food you really have plenty of choices from the 5 starred reviewed foods. That’s a very nice budget.

  • Dori

    Not the pumpkin pie filler that is sold in grocery stores, just pumpkin in a can. You can always or use a digestive enzyme. I keep on hand a product that I swear by that is called Perfect Form by The Honest Kitchen. You add it, or the pumpkin or the digestive enzyme to each of the meals until the transition is complete. Helps their digestive system as they get used to a new food.

  • Dori

    Your boyfriend didn’t throw out the bag, did he? Regardless of what food you switch to, always keep the bag. Even if you decide to empty the bag into an airtight dog food container please keep the bag in case there is something wrong with the food, or there is a recall. The bag will have all the info you need including manufacturers date and lot number. Also if your dog has an issue with a food you can start to narrow down ingredients by having the bag to compare to other foods.

  • Dori

    Just keep an eye on Sam. Took awhile for me to realize that she had an issue with kelp. None of her other allergens were in different food. The common denominator was kelp. Sure enough I found a food that she could eat without kelp and she was fine. It really does make us use our brains. Anyway, that’s the excuse I use to not get too frustrated with all her intolerance issues. Good Luck and I hope Sam doesn’t have any kelp issues.

  • aquariangt

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwApI_dhlbnFTXhUdi1KazFzSUk/edit
    there is the most recent list of foods from the forum side that hound dog mom put together, it’s a great starting point

  • Brittany

    I don’t believe we really have a budget, but I’d say cap it at $75 for a 25-30lbs bag. And no we don’t mind ordering off line, as we are Amazon Prime members, so free shipping. Or if we find it on another site, we would have to look into that.

    Buying locally might be easiest, but not necessary. And I’m pretty sure we would like to feed him kibble food which I’m assuming is dry food. We aren’t opposed to dry food with toppers either.

    I wish I knew EXACTLY what we are feeding him, but I never took a moment to look at the bag. My boyfriend knows that information.

    Thanks for your help!

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Great! : )

    To start, do you have a budget for dog food? Do you have a preference as to whether you want to buy locally, or is ordering food online an option for you? And, what type of food are you looking at primarily? It sounds like you were feeding Blue Buffalo kibble, so I was thinking you might be looking for another kibble.

  • Brittany

    Getting suggestions for foods would be great! :D

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Kelp too! Dang! I’m planning to start Sam on an algae supplement soon since he has to have a vegetarian Omega 3. I hope he doesn’t react to that, too! : )~

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Let us know if you’d like suggestions for foods!

  • 4FootedFoodie

    You’re definitely not over-analyzing things! You’re your pet’s advocate!

    You’re very perceptive to realize so quickly that something was amiss!

    Oh, and if he gets some loose stool when you begin transitioning him to a different food, some plain canned pumpkin works wonders!

    And, aquariangt was definitely right when he said that he could speak for me when he said that I wouldn’t feed Blue Buffalo. I wouldn’t. Their QC is all over the place and they totally lack transparency.

    While I don’t love all of The Great Dane Lady’s suggestions for foods and some of her reasoning seems askew, she’s very experienced with Great Danes; here’s her site: http://www.greatdanelady.com/.

  • Dori

    Let us know how it goes. Good Luck! I’m sure you’ll find that feeding twice a day a good quality grain free food will do the trick.

  • Dori

    Katie has issues with flax also and recently kelp. I swear it’s always something that might not really pop out at you as an intolerant issue.

  • Brittany

    Thank you guys so much for your replies, this has truly helped a lot! I will share all this with my boyfriend tonight. I wasn’t sure if I was over analyzing things but I was starting to get a little worried. This morning he actually dumped his bowl so I’m thinking there’s got to be something wrong with the food!

    I am doing some reading on Premium Dog Foods and which brands are some of the best. I will slowly start integrating the premium food into his current food and over the next two weeks hopefully find something he really likes.

    It’s also reassuring to know it’s okay to take the food away from him when he hasn’t eaten. You guys are right, he will learn when eating time is.

    Thanks again for your help!! Greatly appreciated.

  • 4FootedFoodie

    It’s funny, Dori. My Sam will sniff food and reluctantly walk away hungry. He seemed to know before I figured out that he can’t have fish. The poor guy wouldn’t touch a sardine.

    Now, I’ve been using the new Nature’s Domain as a canned topper. Keep in mind, I’ve been on the fence for a few weeks about flax. He sniffs it and looks around and with hesitation, does seem to finally eat. However, he started with some loose stool this weekends and I noticed last night that he had the anal gland smell. I had to get out my cheaters to look at the tiny print on the canned to see if I overlooked something and sure enough, it has flax in it. So, it sounds like flax is definitely on Sam’s list of food intolerances.

  • aquariangt

    I second that. Even though I wouldn’t feed Blue (as I know 4FF (that’s my new nickname for you) wouldn’t either) I wouldn’t change things up too much right off the bat. The only Blue I’ve ever fed was a puppy that came on it and I bought another 5 lb bag to keep transitioning. While I start rotation young, definitely needs to acclimate to your living situation before you go on
    Also-the meal time only eating is important, and a slow feeder is good for a dane to help with bloat-so you are on the right track there.
    As far as grain free goes-it may help him if there is something he doesn’t like in that food, but it may be a protein preference as well. I would definitely try adding a topper. One way or the other make sure you are feeding a size appropriate food with calcium levels. I suggest checking out the forums for a great thread on large breed puppies and what is acceptable to them. Page 15 has the most current list.

  • Dori

    I agree completely with 4FootedFoodie. I think the first thing you have to do is change his food to a 4 or 5 star rated Grain Free food. I for one would never ever feed BB under any circumstances.

    As 4Footed said, it’s a bad idea for many reasons to just put food in bowl and leave on the floor. Most will tell you to feed your dog twice a day. Put food in his bowl and leave it down for 15 to 20 minutes. Then pick it up. Either throw it away or cover it and put in refrigerator. At dinner time put down a fresh bowl of food or the one from the fridge. Put down for 15 to 20 minutes then pick it up. He’s not going to starve if he doesn’t eat a meal or two or three. He will get the message. Eat when the food is down or it goes away.

    With all that said, I would urge you to switch his food to a grain free high quality food. Check out the grain free 4 and 5 starred reviews and read some of the posts to see which foods people are having better experiences with. BB and Orijen have a lot of negative posts.

  • 4FootedFoodie

    Honestly Brittany, it sounds like he probably just doesn’t like it. Try dressing it up with a canned food topper, some goat’s milk or raw green tripe. If he still isn’t eating, you might want to look for another brand that he finds more palatable.

    Also, I wouldn’t leave it out for him to graze on all day. Fats can quickly become rancid once exposed to the air. Also, it teaches him that eating what he’s given is sort of an option. Put his food down and leave it for 15 minutes. If he doesn’t eat it when he’s offered, pick up his bowl and try it again at the next meal time. He’s smart. He’ll figure out that he needs to eat when it’s offered.

  • Brittany

    Hi, we just got a 1.5 yr old Great Dane. We are feeding him Blue Buffalo, and unfortunately my boyfriend purchased it so I’m not sure which one it is. But I’m afraid he’s not eating enough. We give him a KONG controlled feeding bowls worth in the morning, and he could go all day with only eating about a 1/4 of it. We have a vet appointment for September 1, but we are concerned for until then. In people’s experience, do you think switching to a Grain Free Diet might help?

    We would love some advice if people have it. I’m a new dog owner, and my boyfriend hasn’t had a dog in a few years. This is our first BIG dog as well. We know that Great Danes are a special breed and have special digestive issues, but anything will help us!

    thanks

  • Mickie Connor Young

    Have you actually had your puppy tested for food allergies? We went through hell with our Lab/Golden mix, finally had her blood tested for food allergies…SURPRISE…she’s allergic to pork, peas, potatoes and, the biggie, oatmeal. Once we cut these items totally out of her diet, she’s doing great. It means a lot of label reading, but for Fiona…it’s worth it! You would be amazed at how many foods and treats have peas and potatoes and, especially the big bugaboo…oatmeal! You can find what you need with a little extra work!

  • Gisela

    Hi – am moving to Caribbean and can’t find any foods that are similar to Acana brand Lamb and Apple. Any suggestions?

  • Shonya S

    I’m appalled that you would try to scare people off a kibble or a raw diet for this reason! Please get accurate, unbiased information instead of buckling to pressure and scare tactics.

  • Dog Lover Plus

    Yeah, it appears that there are more than a few 5-star grain free kibbles and canned foods that haven’t properly been added to the best grain free lists.

    I’ve also found editing errors, I.E. lack of consistency throughout reviews. It’s really too bad too, I believe this site is a great source of information. It simply seems to lack the resources to be truly thorough. I’d suggest the site adviser to expand his business model and allow donations…

    Or, do a kick-starter campaign and really revamp the site. Maybe even go into greater detail about omega ratios (5 to 1 or better, 6’s to 3’s) and EPA/DHA (THE Important Omega 3’s!) content relative to what the national research council advises for dogs (20-55 mg per pound). I consider these VERY important for dogs in general and particularly for older dogs or dogs with certain inflammatory conditions. It would be nice to know if you need to supplement DHA/EPA with certain dogs foods.

  • Bobby dog

    Thanks for the explanation on the proposed increase in calcium. Very interesting and troubling when a company intentionally misinforms consumers.

  • aimee

    Hi Bobbie,

    Thanks for that interesting link! Amazing to what lengths companies twist information to make their questionable diets look appropriate!

    Farmina min Ca in their large breed chicken and rice is 4.0 g/1000kcals which is the max nutritional allowance by FEDIAF ( Europe equivelent of AAFCO) and higher than I’d choose to feed a growing large breed.

    The proposed increase in calcium is rather minor and this was recommended to make it “consistant with the 2006 NRC RA and FEDIAF Guidelines”

    The proposed increase has nothing to do with large breed growth and as I posted earlier the committee actually proposed a decrease for large breeds which was not accepted.

    Farmina’s post is very inaccurate!

    There is no NRC 2013 recommendations that I’ve ever seen. The most recent NRC publication was 2006. Nor have I ever seen the FDA get involved in nutrient recommendations.

    Thanks for that interesting look into that company’s integrity!

  • Bobby dog

    Hi aimee:
    I am not well versed in LBP care because I don’t own one, but these two posts bring to mind a post I read on Farmina’s Facebook page dated 4/12/14. Maybe the two agencies mentioned there can help you with finding a reference to the info written in the above post, IDK. Here’s the link to the post:
    https://www.facebook.com/FarminaUSA/photos/a.637137816329864.1073741829.637130276330618/693151570728488/?type=1

  • aimee

    Hi Michele,

    As this is a topic I’m interested in can you lead me to the reference for the range 3.15-3.94 grams Ca/1000kcals.
    I’ve never seen that range anyplace before.

    Using the posted min Ca and energy density for Now Fresh LBP1.3% and 3446 yields 3.77 grams Ca/1000kcals. Using 1.4 % yields 4.07 grams/1000 kcals.

    I prefer Ca levels to be close to 3 grams/1000 kcals for LB pups.

    Currently AAFCO min for growth is 2.8 grams Ca /1000kcals and the proposed min is 3 grams/1000kcals.

    Did you mean the Center for Veterinary Medicine proposed an increase or the CNES?

    While CNES increased the min Ca they recommended a decreased level be allowed for large breeds.

    “The CNES increased the
    minimum calcium and phosphorus concentrations in the Growth and Reproduction
    Profile to 1.2% and 1.0%, respectively, consistent with the 2006 NRC RA and
    FEDIAF Guidelines. The CNES
    recommended that the calcium and phosphorus in growth formulas for the largebred or large size dogs be allowed to decrease to).9%
    and 0.75%, respectively,
    while still being judged to meet the Growth and Reproduction
    Nutrient Profile.”

  • Michele Dixon

    The Calcium Level in the NOW FRESH LB puppy is 1.4% which is an appropriate level for Large Breed Puppies. This is in line with the current level range from 3.15-3.94 grams Ca /1000kcals.
    Interestingly enough the Center for Veterinary Medicine has requested AAFCO to increase the minimum level for puppies to 1.2% due to concerns regarding the levels being too low in some LB puppy formulas.

  • Betsy Greer

    I agree that Now Fresh is a great brand. I actually like many of Petcurean’s brands. However, even the Now Fresh LBP formula has a pretty high Calcium level for LBPs. The website lists the minimum level as 1.3%. I’d contact them and ask for the as fed Calcium to be sure that it wasn’t too high.

  • Lange

    We have a large breed puppy and we’ve been feeding him NOW Fresh Large Breed Puppy. Only their large breed puppy food is rated 5 star. It’s got fewer preservatives than a lot of other brands. Not cheap but our guy has thrived on it.

  • Gina

    It’s called HALO Purely For Pets Vitaglo Dream Coat

    Here is a link to it at Amazon:

    http://www.amazon.com/Halo-Vita-Dream-Natural-Supplement/dp/B0015QT5EU

    According to Amazon I have the one that says “Natural Supplement” though I don’t see that on the bottle anywhere. It costs about $20 but it will be enough for several months as you just give them a teaspoon or two at a time. I mix it into her kibble. I have cut back to just putting it in her morning meal and she is still doing well. She seems to enjoy the taste and her skin is so much improved. No more dander and she hardly scratches anymore.

    When the vet told me she had allergies I immediately started worrying about years and years of allergy meds, side effects, costs, etc; and then I was skeptical when the vet wanted to go with a holistic approach but I followed all of her direction; and it has really done the trick. I hope this helps you.

  • Betsy Greer

    What essential oils are you saying to get food?

  • Gina

    Until just a few weeks ago she was in a shelter in Austin and before that nobody knows. She was itching and scratching all the time from the first day we brought her home. We had to make our best guesses as to what the problem might be. I suspect she’d been on a high grain diet (cheap dog food) that didn’t do her any good. Once her skin got irritated it became a cycle: the scratching irritated her skin, and her irritated skin caused her to keep scratching. The first time I brushed her i noticed a lot of flecks of dander, so I could see how dry and flaky her skin was. That would certainly make me itch. The vet also gave us some oatmeal shampoo to bathe her in, which helped soothe her skin. I think the essential oil was key in helping her have healthier skin.
    She also may be extra-sensitive to flea bites. We treated the yard and gave her monthly dose of preventative. I think it was probably a combination of food allergy and flea sensitivity.

  • Storm’s Mom

    What is she allergic/intolerant to?

  • Gina

    We recently adopted a Golden Retriever, about 1 year old. She had terrible itchy skin issues, licking and scratching almost constantly. We immediately put her on Blue Buffalo. The vet we took her to diagnosed her with allergies, and following a holistic approach, advised us to add essential oil and enzymes (to help in the absorption of essential nutrients) to her meals. It worked like a charm. Her scratching is minimal, and the new fur that is growing in to replace fur she scratched away is looking absolutely luxurious, so much softer and shinier than her old coat of fur.

  • Soleil

    Your list of Best Dry Grain Free Dog Foods allows the mention of certain brands twice when there is more than one formulation worth mentioning of the same brand.

    While I see the Nulo Freestyle on your list I don’t see the Nulo Medal Series which is what I buy for my German Shepherd puppy and have had great success with. My puppy came to me a few weeks ago unvetted, with more than one type of worms, fleas and ticks, dry fur, weepy eyes and has turned around in just a short while with the help of basic vet care and a diet of the Nulo Medal Series dry puppy food.

    In comparing ingredients and estimated nutrient content I really like what I see in the Nulo Medal Series, which is on your 5 Star list, including the fact it has a fewer percentage of carbs than the Nulo Freestyle. The Medal Series is made for sale in the stores of a major pet supply retailer rather than for distribution on the open market but I was wondering what are the chances you could add it to your Best Dry Grain Free Dog Foods list just for the fact that someone else may find it to be equally as good in helping rebuild or maintain their puppy’s physical condition as I have found it to be for mine.

  • Booger Picker

    You can order your food from dogfooddirect that’s where I get mine can’t find it in stores in my area.

  • disqus_sTWKowF3Mc

    Nature’s Variety Instinct is a great food. It’s an all stages food, so you wouldn’t have to change as the puppy grown older. My dogs have been on it for years. They have limited ingredient as well. One thing to consider is that if you plan to ever volunteer with your pet, some organizations discourage any form of raw diets and the non-limited ingredient Instinct has a freeze dried raw boost.

  • theBCnut

    So just what additives are supposed to stimulate growth? For the most part, I agree to avoid LBP foods, but certainly not because they have additives that stimulate growth. Most don’t have appropriate calcium levels which, along with over feeding issues, are the cause of joint issues in LBPs.

  • Crazy4cats

    I would do another fecal test. I feel bad for you because I went through this also. Unfortunately, my pups’ systems were very sensitive for a long time. Did you ever find out which type of test was performed? Here is some info on tests: http://www.petmd.com/blogs/fullyvetted/2009/march/whats-your-pets-fecal-test-anyway-6735. I’m so glad you had a normal stool today. Like you said, one step at a time. A couple of other supplements that were (and still are) helpful are: Gastriplex by Thorne, Vetri Pro BD by Vetri-Science and Phytomucil by Animal Essentials. You can read about these on: dogaware.com. I feed Victor grain free food. It contains a clay that is supposed to help with digestive disorders as well. Good luck. It sounds like you might be on the road to recovery!

  • enggirl

    I picked up some pumpkin last night and gave her a little over a teaspoon. This morning her stool was firm. YEAH! One BM at a time. Lets hope that we are finally making some progress with this.
    Ive been reading a lot about giardia and another parasite that gets into their intestines. My understanding is that even after the anti-biotics, it can take weeks for their system to get back to normal. If that is the case, then she hopefully feeling better because its being flushed from her system. But how will we know if its all gone?

  • Crazy4cats

    Good idea. Make sure that they do the centrifugation test. It is the best test to find giardia or coccidia. My pups poos were mustard color when they had giardia and more greenish when they had coccidia. Wishing you luck :)

  • enggirl

    Her poop has been very yellow. I will call the dr and have them redo the stool tests.

  • enggirl

    Thanks for the suggestions. I will try the pumpkin. And I will stop for a bag of Merrick dog food on the way home. When we switched foods, I was considering using it instead of the Blue Buffalo. From what I have read and heard so far, there can be issues with any food depending on your dog.

    I dont remember having all these issues with any of the dogs we had as kids. We had other pets as well and there were only a few options for dog food. And they did just fine.

    Now we have what is being sold as better food for the animal, but so many people are having so many more issues finding one that doesnt make their pet sick. The claims dont seem to fit the results.

  • Crazy4cats

    I agree with everything that crazy4dogs said. Please have another fecal done that is sent out to lab. Mine have had both giardia and coccidia and it can be hard to detect. Is their poop greenish or yellowish at all? I also used slippery elm supplements that helped a lot. You can learn about these on dogaware.com. There is a ton of information on diarrhea, IBS, IBD and leaky gut remedies on that site. I’ve been there and it is frustrating good luck!

  • Crazy4dogs

    enggirl, did your vet do a stool float or an actual microscopic inspection (he may have to send it out to a lab if he doesn’t have that capability). The microscopic check is really the best. My current foster had diarrhea on and off which turned into really bad diarrhea. The rescue’s vet tested for worms & said he was clear. 3 more days of constant diarrhea with varying between limited food and boiled chicken, rice & pumpkin made me take him back. This time they sent the stool sample out (which they should have done originally). He had hookworm, even though he had been wormed. I had my own dogs tested but my vet said they had to be retested in 3 weeks as they may have eggs that didn’t show up yet. Hooks eggs hatch after 3 weeks so you have to re-treat and sometimes more that 2-3 times.

    My 1st foster (failure) had giardia even though he had been treated. My own vet always does the microscopic. It could be worms There’s giardia that isn’t always caught. Coccidia could be another possibility. There are just so many possibilities. It could be food, but it could also be a worms or an organism. The other problem is that antibiotics kill all bacteria, good and bad. You might want to try starting her on a probiotic. I give my own dogs & foster dogs Kefir (plain) on a daily basis but you can find priobiotics @ pet stores as well.

    I would pull her off the BB if she’s back to diarrhea on it. You could try feeding boiled beef and rice (I always add a touch of pumpkin) and see if there is improvement. That would show a chicken intolerance. If that works I would choose a food that contains no chicken. There are foods out there that don’t contain chicken in various formulas. Earthborn doesn’t have chicken in several formulas, Zignature is another one that uses single source proteins. Instinct has several limited ingredient formulas that are very simple. The Blue Buffalo just might not agree with your girl. Another option is to move her to a fish based food. Most dogs do very well as it is very easily digestible, second only to eggs. I personally feed single protein foods and rotate my dogs diets. That’s how I found out my chocolate Lab had developed and allergy to lamb.

    Another natural way to help if it is a Gastrointestinal upset is Slippery Elm. It’s totally natural and helps control diarrhea. Good luck! I hope this helps.

  • Betsy Greer

    Lots of folks report problems with Blue Buffalo. Personally, I’m not a fan of their products. It could actually be the chicken that’s the problem. I think I’d look for a chicken free food to try her on. Chicken is actually the second ingredient in the food you’re feeding currently. Actually, most of Blue Buffalo’s foods contain chicken.

    In the meantime, try adding a couple of spoonfuls of plain, canned pumpkin to her food.

  • enggirl

    My little girl is 22 months old. She is current on her vaccinations, I believe she was last in for vaccinations in January. Until now she hasnt had any problems with food.

  • Betsy Greer

    How old is your pup?

    When did she last have vaccinations?

    Does she have any food intolerance issues that you’re aware of?

  • enggirl

    Well we have gone through about 8 days of chicken and rice meals after which we worked into a new dog food mixing 50/50. Blue Buffalo, Freedom, grain free, gluten free, beef dry dog food.
    The chicken and rice diet helped but wasnt 100% solid stools. And now that she is only eating her dog food she is still having diarrhea. We have taken her off all treats as well and there isnt a huge improvement. We have tried giving her a pepcid as instructed by the vet as well.
    What do we do now? Her behavior isnt the same either and seems to be more anxious as the days go by.
    Does anyone have any idea what could be going on with her?

  • Neva

    We have 7 pyrenees or pyrenees cross dogs in our family currently we are feeding our little pack Iams puppy food. We are looking for a puppy food with 0 grains but until we find one the Iams is working great for them.

  • Neva

    We are currently feeding our pyrenees pups Iams Smart Puppy. You want to avoid bags labeled as large breed dog food! Alot of them have additives that stimulate the growth! You just want a well balanced food with minimal or no additives. We are thinking about trying the brand at walmart (pure balance, I believe) that has no additives.

  • W0lfman

    No dog food is perfect for every dog, try adding pro biotics, that helped me with my yeast overgrowth, can’t hurt, & you may see a difference.

  • W0lfman

    Alphabetical, can you list the choices in ranking order, from the #1 pick #2 pick and so on?

  • theBCnut

    Your instincts are good.

  • theBCnut

    Go with the large breed. There are no special dietary concerns for small breeds except that they can chew the size kibble, but if you feed a large breed wrong, you can end up with hip and elbow dysplasia. Look over on the forum side for the thread on large and giant breed nutrition. Pg 15 has the newest list of foods that are OK for large puppies. Look for Hound Dog Mom’s posts.

  • theBCnut

    Some “breeders” will do anything(and some vets will help), and then they dump the puppies at the shelter when they don’t sell immediately, because they don’t want to continue to feed something that big.

  • Melanie Paris

    Awe thank you, he is definitely different than any puppy I’ve had before. lol, I’m not sure how that happened. I adopted him and the vet said that he believes him to be a mix breed of the two. I am sure hoping the corgi is the father, I’m not sure the corgi female would be able to carry the great pyrenees pups :( still unsure about what the best food would be for him and whether or not to go with the large breed or small breed.

  • Melanie Paris

    Thank you :) He is a sweet puppy. I don’t want to over feed him, nor do I want to over feed him. But the amount the food bag says to feed him just don’t seem like it’s doing the job. The ingredients are not what I am wanting him to eat either. I think that he should have a different brand of food, grain free and I’m just not sure which food is the best. I am also still unsure on whether I should be feeding him a large breed food or small breed food. My gut instinct tells me to go with the large breed due to the size of his paws. I called several vets in my area today, as was told by most of them to just give him Purina Puppy chow, and with all the grains and by products, that doesn’t seem healthy for him.

  • Cyndi

    A corgi and a great pyrenees made that?? How the heck did THAT happen?? Lol!! Cute little guy though!

  • theBCnut

    Cute puppy!! Never ever worry about whether a dog seems to feel full. Some dogs just don’t have that mechanism that tells them to stop eating. Feed ONLY according to his body condition and make sure you keep him lean until he is completely full grown. That’s to protect his joints until they are fully formed.

  • Melanie Paris

    Hello, I just adopted a 4 month old Corgi/Great Pyrenees mix, who is currently weighing 25 lbs. At the moment he is eating Hill’s Science Diet, but he doesn’t seem to be getting full. I am feeding 3 1/2 cups per day. I am looking for suggestions on puppy food that will be well suited for his breed as well as for his health. Any suggestions?

  • Shar24

    The grain free Salmon and Pea would probably be your best bet as a good place to start. The Lamb and brown rice might work as well, since it doesnt’ have corn in it and lamb is often used for dogs with sensitive stomachs and skin, but if not then you would want to eliminate the rice.

  • Shar24

    Walmart has a brand, Pure Balance, that a lot of people seem to think highly of, and they have grain free varieties, as well as some novel protien options for a reasonable price.

  • Shar24

    rude

  • enggirl

    Thanks for sharing your experiences with me. I dont even know if she has a problem with grains. But we will try a grain free food and go from there.

  • Cynthia

    I understand, been there done that. Most vets really aren’t schooled in pet nutrition. When we rescued Hershey our special needs dog, I already knew my vet didn’t care what I fed him, we had to put our 16 year old mini schnauzer to sleep after moving here, she was on semi good food (she refused the good stuff) I had asked him then about pet nutrition he ssid he didn’t care what I fed her as long as she was thriving. So when Hershey came along & was in horrible condition I knew not to even ask. I did my research & put him on blue buffalo & while many here on this board disapprove he’s thriving & isn’t paralyzed as 2 vets predicted he eould be by age 2 or 3, he’s now 8, thinks he’mighty dog. Follow your instincts, many here have tons of experience & excellent advice to offer. I’m glad I found this place. Good luck!

  • enggirl

    My exclamation was not about changing her food. I was not aware that chicken could also be an issue with her. The instructions from the bet were so vague and non-committal that Im not sure that what they suggested was the right thing to do. They gave us a paper with a few dozen different foods to try. A FEW DOZEN! With no indication of what to avoid. After reading through the commentaries here, I have picked up on some things to avoid and also somethings to try. I dont like playing the needle in a haystack game with my dogs health any more than I do with my childrens. Changing vets is also on my list of things to do. Thanks for the info. And as for changing foods or not changing foods regularly…. it would depend on my dog and what works best for her.

  • Cynthia

    Wow, I didn’t mean to imply that if your dog is sick DUE to his food not to change it, from what you’re describing here something definitely is not right & I too would have suspected the food & yes I would have changed foods in a heartbeat! I’ve been VERY lucky in that none of my dogs have ever been affected by their food, the special needs dog does have issues from time to time w/metacam &Tramadol which we rarely have to use now that he gets regular Adaquan injections & like your vet I was told to give him chicken & rice for a few days to settle his tummy, personally, I found that the babyfood, stage 2 foods Ham (small jars) worked best, added a generic pepcid ac pill & it calmed his tummy
    down well. I was simply saying that
    as a rule I do not believe in constantly
    changing their food, but if you have a
    sick dog due to the food, by all means
    a change is needed. I hope your dog
    gets well soon. The same thing
    hapened to my cat. She had been put
    on a canned food for her urinary tract
    issues, started vomiting, unable to
    keep her food down. Crazy4Cats
    actually helped me find out about cat
    nutrition & she has made a full
    recovery. I wish you & your dog well.

  • enggirl

    You cant be serious! My 22 month old mini-Australian Shepherd has been sick for 4 weeks now. I noticed her energy level was lacking just prior to our vacation. She was anxious and passing soft stool, then diarrhea and vomiting. Her appetite has declined. Last week the vet took blood tests and stool samples and said there was nothing in the results. They put her on an anti-biotic and de-wormer (out of precaution) and told us to give her CHICKEN and RICE. There has been no improvement in her stool and she vomits occasionally, which seems to be from the anti-biotic. She has been eating Natures Choice, Lamb and Rice. Today we are going to get her new food. I hope that a new food does the trick.

  • USA Dog Treats

    Thank you for changing your comment to read “many of their foods are essentially the same” instead of “all of their foods are essentially the same”

  • Cynthia

    Thank you, I didn’t see the packed in water in the other post, trying to get my caffeine in me! I know a lot of people are for raw diets, I do see the benefit & I know all 3 dogs would love such a diet, but given the success I’ve had w/the special needs dog I really do not want to make such big changes in his diet. I amso glad I found this board, everyone here is very helpful & friendly

  • Cynthia

    Sorry didn’t see the packed in water, not enough coffee in me yet, thank you!

  • Betsy Greer

    Hi Cynthia,

    You want sardines packed in water, not oil. You can drain the liquid of our pour it over the kibble.

    Also, if someone else has already suggested this, forgive my redundancy. There is a fantastic little download written by Steve Brown, who many consider to be one of the authorities on raw feeding, about how to easily augment a diet of kibble with fresh whole foods. The download costs $2.95 and is worth every penny! http://www.seespotlivelonger.com/home/sll/page_41/see_spot_live_longer_the_abc_way___electronic_down.html

  • Cynthia

    Hi, love your pic here, sorry I missed your reply & thank you for this information. I’m certainly willing to move them to a different protein within the Blue Buffalo line, the duck being the one I would switch to. I really do appreciate everyone’s input here, everyone has given some excellent information. Their next bag of Blue Buffalo will be duck. Thank you again

  • Cynthia

    I will try the sardines! Thank you! I think all 3 dogs would like them. Do you drain off the oil or just mix it into the kibble?

  • Cynthia

    Thanks, I do want the best for all of them, he’s turned out to be our little miracle dog. They also get Glucosamine & Chondroitin w/MSM & Vitamin C & Manganese Advanced Hip & Joint formula, it has really helped the special needs dog. He gets regular pain injections but other than that unless he has a bad flare up he’s not on Tramadol or Metacam though once in a while he needs a muscle relaxer. To look at him you’d never know anything was wrong, his x-rays however tell a much different story. Small dog w/a BIG attitude!

  • USA Dog Treats

    Hi Cynthia,

    There are 5 varieties in Blue’s Life Protection formulas that do NOT contain any chicken and 11 varieties in Blue’s Basics line that do NOT contain any chicken.

    The proteins in the Life Protection and Basics lines that do not contain any chicken are:

    Fish
    Lamb
    Salmon
    Turkey
    & Duck

  • Crazy4cats

    Sardines packed in water once or twice a week is another way to make their kibble healthier.

  • Cyndi

    Well, I guess I certainly can’t blame you there. Atleast you’re not feeding him crap food, but it truly is better for dogs to have a rotational diet. Keep doing what you’re doing, you must be doing a great job!

  • Cynthia

    Thank you for your kind words. All of the dogs are always offered fresh veggies (canned as a last resort then I rinse them like crazy first to get as much sodium off as possible) w/their meals, Green beans, tomatoes & zuccinni are the favorites, the Pekignese & the fat Chiuahua LOVE poached eggs, the other dog won’t touch eggs no matter how they are prepared. Other than that, they have the Blue Buffalo, no table scraps.

  • Crazy4cats

    It sounds like you have done an amazing job with this pup. I understand your reluctance to switch foods. No matter how much common sense it makes, it would be scary! Do you ever give him any fresh, canned or healthy leftovers to him? This could at least add a little variety to his diet. Good luck!