Grandma Lucy’s Artisan (Freeze-Dried)

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Rating: ★★★★½

Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4.5 stars.

The Grandma Lucy’s Artisan product line lists five freeze-dried dog foods, each claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Venison
  • Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Pork (5 stars)
  • Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Lamb (4 stars)
  • Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Bison (5 stars)
  • Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Chicken (4 stars)

Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Venison recipe was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Grandma Lucy's Artisan Venison

Freeze-Dried Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 30% | Fat = 15% | Carbs = 47%

Ingredients: USDA venison, potatoes, flax, sweet potatoes, carrots, celery, apples, bananas, blueberry, cranberries, pumpkin, garlic, rosemary, vitamin A, vitamin D3, vitamin E, niacin, iron, calcium, phosphorus, zinc, riboflavin, thiamin, potassium, manganese, chloride, copper, magnesium, pyridoxine, cyanocobalamin

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 7%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis28%14%NA
Dry Matter Basis30%15%47%
Calorie Weighted Basis27%32%41%

The first ingredient in this dog food is venison. Although it is a quality item, raw venison contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is potato. Potatoes can be considered a gluten-free source of digestible carbohydrates. Yet with the exception of perhaps their caloric content, potatoes are of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The third ingredient is flaxseed, one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient is sweet potato. Sweet potatoes are a gluten-free source of complex carbohydrates in a dog food. They are naturally rich in dietary fiber and beta carotene.

The fifth ingredient is carrots. Carrots are rich in beta-carotene, minerals and dietary fiber.

The sixth ingredient is celery. Although raw celery can be very high in water, it can still contribute a notable amount of dietary fiber as well as other healthy nutrients.

The seventh ingredient is apple, a nutrient-rich fruit that’s also high in fiber.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptions

First, garlic can be a controversial item. Although most experts favor the ingredient for its numerous health benefits, garlic (in rare cases) has been linked to Heinz body anemia in dogs.1

However, the limited professional literature we surveyed provided no definitive warnings regarding the use of garlic — especially when used in small amounts (as it likely is here).

And lastly,the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb. Non-chelated minerals are usually associated with lower quality dog foods.

Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Grandma Lucy’s Artisan looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 30%, a fat level of 15% and estimated carbohydrates of about 47%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 32% and a mean fat level of 15%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 45% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 48%.

Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a dry product containing a notable amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Grandma Lucy’s Artisan is a plant-based freeze-dried dog food using a notable amount of various meats as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4.5 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content.

Those look for additional grain-free products may wish to check out our special report on grain-free dog foods.

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Notes and Updates

05/12/2014 Last Update

  1. Yamato et al, Heinz Body hemolytic anemia with eccentrocytosis from ingestion of Chinese chive (Allium tuberosum) and garlic (Allium sativum) in a dog, Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association 41:68-73 (2005)
  • affenage

    Hi folks.. I have a question for you all. I have been feeding my guys Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Pork in a rotation diet. I do one food per month so they got this food about 2 months ago. They ate it for a month 2 times previously with no problems (and gosh they love it). this last batch, I had switched one dog over, and 4 days later he started vomiting about 4 hours after eating. This happened for two days. He then developed an unrelated illness (Lyme) so I attributed the stomach issues to that, and he lost all appetite.
    After the first dog switched over, and it was clear to me that Lyme was causing his GI distress, I switched my other two over. After 4 days they began vomiting as well, same thing, about 4 hours after meals. This happened for 2 days, and at that point, I replaced the Grandma Lucys with a different food, and all of them never had another issue.
    As I said, they have had prior experience with this food, and never had an issue. In hindsight, after all three becasme ill I realized that the Lyme dog’s recovery was significantly impacted by the food – he had continual issues which I attributed to the antibiotics until the time he was taken off the Grandma Lucy’s and put on the other food. He lost more than 10% of his body weight (1.5 pounds out of 10) and his gums were pale. (he was due to have a CBC but then he seemed to have a miraculous turnaround which corresponded to the change in food, so I never had it run, and his gums are much pinker now)
    I wrote to Grandma Lucys to inform them that I suspected a problem with that particular lot – they replied and said they would take note, but that they have not heard of any other problems.
    My question is, would you do something more than just alerting the company? I think they are a great company, and have been pleased with them. I do not know why the food was a problem. I won’t use it again, though.

  • Akari_32

    Entirely Pets has the 3lb bags of the chicken BOGO for $22!

    http://www.entirelypets.com/artisanchick3lbs.html

  • SandyandMila

    That’s smart though. With you feeding such a variety it must take awhile to get thru all that.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I picked up a pallet (160 cases) of canned food for the fosters and already had at least a dozen cases I had previously purchased!

  • SandyandMila

    That’s impressive, Sandy! I should be getting my order of some samples today, I’ll let you know how Mila likes it.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    My dogs don’t seem to have an issue with quinoa or lentils so I would use it as a topper since they still eat some kibble sometimes. That’s after I use up the 2000+ canned foods and other dehydrated foods I have!!

  • SandyandMila

    I had to reset my password the last time this happened.

  • Bobby dog

    Awwww ;) I actually am Bobby dog right now too!!!

  • SandyandMila

    Uh oh, WordPress says I’m Bobby dog!!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I wouldn’t not use it for that reason alone, but I would recommend only using it as a topper or in rotating with other foods due to the fact that – based on the statement on their packaging – there’s no way the calcium and phosphorus ratio can be balanced in their foods. I had noticed this awhile ago but losul just reminded me on the off topic discussion area.

  • SandyandMila

    Would you not use it yourself for that particular reason? I really value your opinion. I’ll be using the sample in a kong. I’ll let you know if she likes it. :)

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I first heard about it this week. Haven’t tried it yet. My guess is probably 4.5-5 stars for the chicken and turkey and 4 stars for the fish. I like that they have a quinoa option, my only complaint is that it has quinoa and lentils. Let us know what you think of it.

  • SandyandMila

    Has anyone tried Valor by GL? I ordered some samples of the turkey today. Quinoa is all the rage right now even in pet food. I wonder what the rating would be for the new Valor formulas?

  • Betsy Greer
  • Barbara Kirby

    what dog food rates 5 stars?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Try him on one of the 95 or 96% canned foods. They have one meat protein and the vitamins and minerals to balance it. When you find one single meat he can handle then try adding one single carb to it. By adding things back into his diet one at a time, you can get a handle on what ingredients he is reacting to and what he is ok with. Once you figure out a few ingredients that he does well on you will have a better idea about what other foods to look for.

  • Amanda

    My baby is a delicate flower too. We have had great success with Wellness Simple Lamb and Oats (egg, dairy, soy, corn free)

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Addiction has two dehydrated raw venison formulas – one with grains and one without. It’s a great company and they have very high quality products (I’ve used their kibble, canned and dehdyrated) however their foods are pricey and the dehydrated foods are a bit low in protein (imo). Another option would be to purchase raw venison and add it to a pre-mix or to purchase a venison-based commercial raw food. For what it’s worth, I really do like Grandma Lucy’s products despite the fact that they’re cooked. I’d assume their food is cooked prior to freeze-dying to appeal to a broader consumer base – raw feeders are a minority. My dogs eat a homemade raw diet but I do use Grandma Lucy’s intermittently, it’s one of my favorite dehydrated/freeze-dried type foods.

  • Bethany

    It bothers me that they speak at length on their site about the process being better because dehydrating heats the food! But, turns out they heat it too…juts before this process instead of during :( Disappointed. I really need a quality venison diet that i can afford.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’m kind of surprised the Pork and Bison formulas didn’t receive a higher rating. The pork formula has 39% protein and the bison formula has 30% protein. The girls just had some of the bison formula in their kongs for their after dinner treat.

  • Cindy

    Hi Laworaw, I agree with you regarding raw/kibble. It appears that (on this website there is a section called ‘High pressure processing..’ on the left) more and more the American agencies make pressure to have the food ‘pasteurized’ and so on….very controversial, so food companies like Primal started this on a couple of meats not all of them though. It is interesting on the NW naturals website (I really like the food too; and they are the makers of Primal), they stated that less processed is better; even if you cut the meat vs. grind it, makes a difference, and that was always my feeling, that nutritions leak out as soon as it gets processed one way or another, and it changes the quality of meat when you even put it in the mixer worse than cutting it.

    That is why I tend to cut up meat more into pieces rather than put it into the mixer.

    I had this thought this morning; I believe a lot of the ‘good feeders’ here on this website focus more on meat content than me, and I focus more on healthy herbs, remedies and so on. My protein content may not be as high, even though I believe in high protein diet, but I do use more vegetables, fruit, herbs, bee pollen, greens etc. than they do, and as stated before, I never have to go to the vet and my dogs usually don’t have issues, if so they are minor.

  • LawofRaw

    I just popped into reply to your post, as I got to get some sleep. You
    can feed kibble You just want to be careful not to create an imbalance.
    So you would add say no more than 15% of kibble to raw or vice versa. As
    far as the stomach pH level changes, as long as the dog is accustomed
    to rotation and hence different meat protein sources etc, it’s likely
    such healthy dog can easily handle changes in raw to processed and vice
    versa in the one meal. Most of the time it should not be an issue. In
    fact, the very infrequent times my dogs get that kibble meal with
    yoghurt topping, they will get a raw meaty bone such as a chicken wing
    or turkey neck about an hour after. That also becomes their version of
    brushing their teeth before going to bed.

    As far as the HPP process is concerned, I’m not a fan of it either, and such processes as far as the BARF brand and K9 ones in Australia is concerned, they don’t undergo that process as far as I know. I don’t know about the US BARF version. I know of the other BARF brands do in the US as you and others have already specified brand wise etc.

    Anyway, that’s my only post
    for now as I got to get shut eye.

  • Cindy

    Hi LawoRaw, I don’t feed raw and cooked together. But I do feed raw with some dehydrated or freeze dried food; is this raw or not, that is the question….Sidney, hm…are they still radiating the pet foods? I thought they stopped that!
    Yeah my dogs are picky I don’t get it I have 3. I don’t get why don’t eat raw lamb or raw beef, I don’t get why I have to cook the lamb and then hide it with the cooked beef and why they eat the K9 frozen lamb and love it, but they don’t eat USDA ground lamb from NewZealand and so on.
    Don’t get it. They don’t eat Stella and Chewy (beside I would not feed it anymore due to HPP) or don’t like the Darwin’s that much either, but eat the Primal frozen and NW natural.’
    They are spoiled rotten I guess. So I sometimes have to put a little bit of Ziwipeak dried food into their meals and they eat it, they do well with it. I know some people add some raw with kibbles here and there also and have not have any issues; but again, if you mix raw with some dehydrated or kibble, you just have to be careful. I don’t really do it to that extend or don’t mix dehydrated foods with fresh in large quantities.
    See my older dog doesn’t do always so well on raw, and I have heard that from other people. But I try to give as much raw as possible.

  • LawofRaw

    I think if feeding or mixing raw with processed at the same time or meal is not the best idea. Just my opinion. I personally haven’t seen or heard of any dogs that require processed pet food added to a raw meal to entice them to eat the meal or hide the fact that it has raw in it. I guess it depends on what raw content it is or how long such dog was so accustomed to processed pet food before introduced to raw etc etc. The other thing with that, is the dog’s stomach pH is usually at its natural 1 or 2 level, especially when eating raw meats and muscle and this acidity level changes or decreases when the same dog eats an already cooked processed pet food.

    Sounds like some of the things you add is good and nutritious, but I’m more of a full time non-commercial food feeder, so my very irregular part time feed of Eathborne, or Canidae (I used to feed Artemis Maximal, which I still believe to be one of the best kibbles just that I find it inconvenient to find a longer dated bag), is as I said, as irregular treats or as a once in couple of weeks to a month meal topped with organic yoghurt. So even if these brands are stricken with problems and recalls…which they’re not “stricken” with such, the likelihood of my dogs suffering repercussions are slim. JMO.

    As for food claimed to be wholly made from the USA or Australia or other western industrialised country for that matter, ingredients wise, is in my opinion again, to be treated with some caution and even skepticism. In addition to that, even if such were entirely sourced and made from within such a country, there is no guarantee of full human grade quality or fully organic such and such etc etc. Again, JMHO.

    Apart form using Earthnborne and Canidae as Buster Cube treats, I more so use air dried beef and lamb liver and break them up before placing them in the cube. I’ll put kibble in their as a rarer alternative treat, for variety.

    I’m surpirsed your dog(s) don’t like Eathborne kibble since they’re renown for their kibble’s enticing palatable odour. From liver sprays etc no doubt. My dogs certainly like them. I realise of course that this doesn’t mean that every dog will like it.

    Look, for all intents and purposes, even if I could import Urban Wolf, I probably wouldn’t due to Australia’s strict gamma irradiation rules, with certain exceptions, e.g. extruded at 100 degrees Celsius for at least half hour etc. If I lived in Canada on the other hand, I probably would consider feeding it (if it checked out as higher in meat based protein, without grains, and lower in carbohydrates) as part of my already explained infrequent treat and yoghurt topped main meals for my dogs. Otherwise I’m a raw prey model style dog feeder through and through.

    Oh yeah, I’m in Sydney, Australia to answer your first question. :)

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    As I respectfully asked in my comment earlier today, please keep all comments on this thread to the topic of this article.

    Comments in violation of this request have been deleted.

  • Cindy

    Does this apply to the others too or just to me as the others have re-started the conversation not me, all I’m doing is defending myself. I still don’t flag you or down vote you either, even you single me out on an issue here that applies to ALL not just 1 person.

  • Cindy

    Two wrongs don’t make one right; this is why I still don’t down vote all or any of your posts even though I highly disagree with you.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I didn’t down vote any of yours, until you decided we couldn’t be civil and reply to each other, not that you have even tried to understand what anyone has said to you.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Not only did I down vote this..I also flagged it ad inappropriate. Your obviously looking to start a fight here, IMO and Mike already told you to stick to the topic.

  • Pattyvaughn

    You are not worth the bother. You certainly have an overinflated view of yourself.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Replying to me now are you? I have not removed a single down vote that I have made ever. The few that I have down voted of yours, I down voted because of your content, nothing else. If I was down voting all your posts the first ones I would have started with were the ones where you were arguing about ratios, even though you kept getting them wrong, but I didn’t down vote any of those because I was actually replying to you. I also know I have seen several of your posts that said absolutely nothing, or that I know nothing about, I didn’t down vote any of those. Again, I ONLY down voted the ones that I had an issue with what you said. BTW, I do not, nor have I ever, yet, fed THK, so while I challenged your statements about them, I have no stake in that one, so I don’t down vote you because I like THK, but someone else might. Lord knows you came on here and immediately pissed off 3 or 4 people.
    BTW, I didn’t down vote this one either. But you have not yet listened to one single thing anyone here has said to you so I certainly don’t expect you to start now. I don’t even know how you can take an entire website and make it about you, but so far you are doing a pretty good job of it.

  • Cindy

    Great, so just to set the record straight, I did not down vote ANYONE’s votes down even though I disagree with you and a couple of others (as we all know we disagree with each other) on many instances.

  • Cindy

    Good to know that votes can be removed from the person posting them.

  • Cindy

    OMG. You missed a few posts when you down voted them ?
    AK, ALOL,amiic

  • Pattyvaughn

    It’s funny that she seems to think that all her posts are down voted, because I didn’t have any trouble finding many that were not down voted from yesterday.

  • Cindy

    InkedMarie, I don’t want to be like a broken record, but EVERY of my posts were down voted, that is not normal. I said things like ‘the sky is blue’-DOWN, I got an email-DOWN- no one has down votes on EVERY post, then another person said the same thing then they up voted them. It was very obvious to me that it was someone with a personal agenda and had nothing to do with ‘random votes of different people’ or the content, it was all about down voting EVERYTHING. It was bad, and you know what..it now stopped. So if it was random, it would have just continued, the person doing it got the message. No one has down votes on EVERY post, no matter what they say.

  • Cindy

    I think Disqus has some issues, like most of these types of programs.

  • InkedMarie

    Thanks Mike, I didn’t know if it was just me. Since no one can see who down-votes, I fail to see how anyone sees a “strategy” in people down voting their posts or how they think its the same people.

  • Red

    I guess Disqus wants me to be someone else? I had the same issue with you (also labelled as Cindy) but it went away once refreshed. I guess today is twin day!

  • losul

    I wish i knew how to do a screen shot and post it.

  • Cindy

    I forgot you are in Canada; I found once online many companies in Canada who ship frozen fresh meat for pets within Canada, I’m sure you can find products when you google. we cannot get in the USA.

  • Cindy

    Oh there is probably something wrong, you just replied to Red,not me.

  • Cindy

    Ok, are you in Canada?

  • Cindy

    I think you got confused as we had similar posts.

  • losul

    Yet again, it show’s the author of the post I am replying to is Cindy, yet you are saying you are Red. Is no one else seeing this?

  • Cindy

    No we cannot do that, I have never ‘met’ Red until today, we cannot edit posts. I at least cannot.

  • Red

    Nope, Darwins only ships to the US.

  • Cindy

    Oh no, I said Cindy, instead of Shawna, I meant Red, Shawna, but there are several Cindy’s too, but not today.

  • losul

    Now after refreshing, it has changed to “Red”. Earlier, I could have 99.99% sworn that another post was Cindy first and then changed to Red. I gave the benefit of the doubt. This time, I KNOW that I’ve either lost my marbles, or there is definitely something else going on.

  • Cindy

    Yah, 3 dogs, guinea pigs and rabbits, and the dogs play with them, they don’t eat them on my watch.

  • Cindy

    No, why?

  • Red

    Oh, not sure. But I’m me (Red), very sure of that!

  • Cindy

    Iosul, No it is not just the celery Sojos uses as ingredients from China, I have not emailed them, but it is possible that more ingredients from China are in there than just celery.

    How it goes with human food is that when it is ONE vegetable, let’s say peas, and it says USA made, then it is USA made. But if the peas are mixed with carrots and it says USA made, it is also possible that the peas are from China, so anything mixed can be from China, you have to be careful with Fish too.

    Here is the link to doggiefood (I don’t like the online seller that much but it seems it is the only one who had Urban Wolf)
    http://www.doggiefood.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=urban+wolf

    on their website:
    http://www.canada-shops.com/Stores/healthdiets1/c27938.2.html

  • Cindy

    Right, it is not freeze dried it is dried, so Primal and Stella are freeze dried I believe, so that is better. But Ziwipeak is cheaper than the others like Primal or K9 dried, or Stella dried or freeze dried.

    NV uses HPP as far as I know. I think you should be able to get Darwins, not sure if they do HPP or not. They deliver to your home, first order is only $ 15 for 10# as a special; I believe they still do that.They have organic, free range etc. I tried it it is very good, but my dogs don’t like it so much like Primal or NW naturals, but I can’t go by that, they eat it but they are just picky. Darwins has always been very good.

  • losul

    You’re post, the one I am replying right now to says Cindy, but you are saying you are Red. Whats up?

  • Red

    Ha sorry, no we’re not. I’m Red and she’s Cindy (does that help?) lol. I have a cat, and she has dogs.

  • losul

    Cindy (and Red), you’re starting to really confuse me now, who is who? Are you the same person?

  • Red

    I thought Ziwipeak made only canned and dehydrated. Is that what you meant by freeze-dried? (Their website is not working ATM so I can’t check). Any shops that used to sell it here discontinued it because it was so expensive.

    I feed very little kibble, if at all. I find that the odour from the litter box is horrendous when she eats kibble. Besides this, I live smack-dab in the middle of Canada so a lot of these brands (Stella’s for example) are not available. Not only that, but pet food websites either don’t ship here or charge way too much (I’m not paying $40 to ship a 1lb bag).

    I have tried frozen raw. She was okay-ish on NV Duck raw bites, but any other kind..nope. And again, reading about all the brands that the guys here like, I realise that I can’t get them here =( Hence, why I’m hoping to try Amore. It’s like Canadian Ziwipeak lol

  • losul

    I agree, potatoes do not belong there, and especially so high on the list. I’ve always made my own “pre-mixes” (so far anyway), and would never consider adding potato, unless I were to be looking for a way to stretch dollars, or if I had extra potato to do something with on occaison.

    Also, just me, but I wouldn’t follow follow directions on those pre-mixes and use 50/50 with meat. For me, it’s 75-80% meat, organs and bone, 20-25% veggies and fruit.

  • Cindy

    You are a funny girl; ‘Feathers ruffed..’ very funny when I think about it..ha,ha…. I need to start memorizing your slang.

  • Cindy

    Shawna, I have been observing it and I sometimes said things like ‘I got an email from them and they said yes’-DOWN vote, ‘yesterday I went for a walk’-DOWN vote (don’t laugh…I know…) just to give you an analogy, it was very obvious 1,2 people and I have a good idea WHO has been doing it as a strategy, it just went so far that I finally said something. Yes, if it happens again (it has stopped now), of course I will try to ignore it.

  • Cindy

    Red, I meant the Ziwipeak freeze dried. It is cheaper than the other freeze dried (Primal, Stella etc.) as far as I know, approx. half price as you get 2 # not 1 # for approx. $ 30. You can order it on petflow first time costumers get $ 10 off and you can get free shipping. We usually get the Venison.
    Ziwipeak dried I’m pretty sure she will eat, my dogs go CRAZY on this food.

    Have you ever tried grain free Health Extension/Vet’s choice, it tastes similar like the Orijen but is better for digestion. My dogs go CRAZY on this food too!
    I wonder since these companies I use (Horizon, Health ex., Fromm etc.) cook around 200 Degree F if kibble is such a bad thing in comparison to the mixes…I understand that they have meals in them, not so good, but not much difference between kibble and dried foods.
    Have you ever tried fresh frozen foods? My dogs love the NW natural Lamb, but not sure if I will use it again as some of their food is made with HPP now. Will try the Answer food.

  • Shawna

    I think most often content is down voted but I’ve seen comments get down voted simply because the delivery was rough around the edges, or bull in a china shop(ish) etc. Or maybe someone got their feathers ruffled. Usually seems to be a short lived thing.. Just ignore it..

  • Cindy

    Thanks for letting me know, so it is about ‘taking heat’.

  • Shawna

    Hey Cindy don’t take it personally, really.. It’s happened to me, losul, Hound Dog Mom and others.. If you are even the least bit controversial it is bound to happen to you at one point or another.

  • Red

    I also found THK to be very similar, and she didn’t like that one either. Right now she’s on Primal and Feline Natural freeze dried. I had tried the canned Ziwipeak with her but no luck. The air-dried Ziwi is hard to find around here, but I’m looking at trying Amore with her in addition to/in place of kibble. Pretty sure it’s along the same lines as Ziwipeak. But the raw options (besides home cooking) are getting slim here!!

  • Cindy

    Exactly, I have not tried Grandma Lucy, but I found THK like soup mix, Sojos was better, even though I do have the one with Turkey and I would not buy it again either for other reasons. I’m curios how Urban Wolf will be…I wonder myself if Kibble is not that bad in the end in comparison with certain mixes, especially certain high end ones. After I have found out more things about what these companies do I’m making more and more my own food.
    I like to add little commercial food to make sure I give the dogs everything they need.
    But I’m more picky these days than ever. Dog food industry is big business.
    Oh by the Way I LOVE Ziwipeak not sure how exactly it is made though..my dogs LOVE IT! I tend to add it to my home made meal, so in case they don’t like something they eat it with Ziwipeak.

  • losul

    O.K. I was first on the Urban wolf site and clicked just on the “where to buy” button. Didn’t see the separate order button. So either direct from them, or a retailer, or is doggiefood an online site?. Thnx.

    I was following all the drama on the sojos thread, but never asked about it. i was thinking about using it eventually. If it’s just the celery, I probably won’t be too concerned.

    I’ve noticed there are alot of frozen (human) vegetables coming from China now. I don’t know if this is still, but Costco was (at least a year or so ago) selling frozen broccoli and some other vegetables from China. A bit concerning, alarming, and unbelievable. Wouldn’t have ever known if not reading the small print on back of package later on as they seemed high quality in every way.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I definitely down vote based on content and I’m positive she is accusing me. I will freely admit that I have down voted some of her comments, due to content, nothing more. And I have done the same to other posters, they are usually but not always worth giving an explanation of why I down voted their post.

  • Red

    Yes, talk about fine print! “Human grade” or not, I agree with the person below who called it soup mix. Very accurate. I always wondered why they ever considered putting potato in a freeze dried food, especially if it’s flaked? The whole point of using freeze dried for me was to escape the heavy carbs in kibble! /End rant

  • Cindy

    Hi Mike Sagman, thanks for your comments. It was very obvious to me what was happening though and I had a very good guess who was behind it. It is not possible that it was anything else when you look at the excessive votes which were not random but it was a clear strategy. Don’t mind when people have different opinions then me though and disagree once in a while, this is normal.

  • Cindy

    I just ordered the Urban Wolf on doggiefood, I believe the only ones I found, however, they also seem to sell it online too (Urban Wolf website).
    Well, I got a sample of Sojos Turkey and to my surprise, my dogs loved it so much! Then I got a 3 # bag only to find out that they use ingredients from China. For instance celery. I think this is ridiculous, as this is not safe. Even the FDA published reports of Chinese vegetables which are not safe, due to contaminations, certain toxins they use etc. Toxins no one tests for or will ever know about.
    Hounddogmom on this site thought Sojos was not 100% balanced, if they would not buy from China, I would for sure use it, as my dogs love it. With the Turkey it gives me the opportunity to mix it with my own raw food some and ‘hide’ certain foods my dogs won’t eat otherwise.
    We had a whole conversation about The Honest Kitchen (on Sojos thread) as it came out that they also purchase ingredients from Asia, (not China ANYMORE), among other Third World poor countries who don’t have regulations. The Honest Kitchen purchases from approx. 10 different countries worldwide, including the apples are from Chile and the vegetables from Poland, not the USA, which I find concerning.
    The dog food companies I use purchase most of their ingredients locally as they state these ingredients from certain unregulated countries can be risky and there could be a quality concern.
    In spite the Grandma Lucy doing what they are doing, I must give them credit from using most of their ingredients from the USA. That is also why I like Urban Wolf; they purchase locally, and that is why I like Answers, and certain dry foods I have mentioned.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Cindy,

    As I mentioned before, there’s no way for you (or anyone) to know whether it’s “the same people” who are down-voting any comment.

    Some of these actions may actually be legitimate votes.

    For this reason, please keep all future comments here to the topic of this article. Thanks.

  • Cindy

    The Honest Kitchen heats their food too, as far as I remember they steam it between 125 Degrees F and 165 Degrees F, and then dry it below 100. In comparison both companies though are human grade, but both use heat, don’t know the temperature of Grandma Lucy. What bothers me with these companies is it is all so selective what they put online and what they ‘leave out’. It is all about sales, of course when you say ‘freeze dried’ it sounds better than ‘cooked and freeze dried’, it is very misleading. If it was human food, they probably would not legally be allowed to be so misleading (FDA).

  • Cindy

    InkMarie, it doesn’t matter if someone down votes you or not based on the content of your statement, but it matters when there are the same people doing it excessively on my posts who have an agenda and without any foundation, no matter what I say. It has been very obvious.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    HI InkedMarie,

    You should always be able to see who up-votes your comments. However, no one can see who enters a down-vote.

  • InkedMarie

    Oops, meant to say I read via email.

  • InkedMarie

    I can only speak for myself but I do vote based on what is posted, not who posted it. This is the Internet, I can’t believe people even care if they get a down vote. I read all notifications online so I only come here if I respond or really feel the need to vote.

    That brings up a question: someone down voted one thing I said; can anyone else see who down votes? I can’t, I can only see who up votes.

  • losul

    I was just checking out urban wolf. I wasn’t able to find anywhere I could purchase online. Nearest retailer about 50 miles away.

    Were there particular ingredients in Sojos that you were concerned about? I am only interested in the pre-mixes, I use my own meat sources.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hey Guys,

    The Dog Food Advisor welcomes courteous participation.

    Up-voting and down-voting is a way to express your agreement or disagreement with the content of a comment. It should not be used to demonstrate your like or dislike of another member.

    In the spirit of keeping our community positive, please respect this privilege. Thank you.

  • Red

    I sure didn’t! Here I’m thinking that I’d try out a new ‘raw freeze dried’ but nope. Ah well, cat didn’t like it anyway. Thanks for the heads up!!

  • losul

    Hmmm. Probably alot of people don’t know that.

  • Cindy

    Iosul, I had the same thought process when someone said on this forum they cook the food first before freeze drying. I then contacted them personally but they did confirm that they cook it all.

  • losul

    I wonder if they cook all the ingredients first, or just the legumes (absolutely necessary I think) and veggies (most of them necessary cooked for digestion?), maybe some of the meats, maybe not all?

    Probably what they call roasted chicken, is indeed roasted.

  • Cindy

    I meant K 9 frozen foods, not the canned, but always wanted to try out the canned as well. My dogs LOVE the frozen food!

  • Cindy

    Ah, you are in Australia! Where at? I’m not sure if you could order Urban Wolf online, maybe you can. I believe they are Canadian, it is a premix. You should check out the website:
    http://www.urbanwolf.cc/
    Most of the ingredients are organic and they don’t purchase form any Third World countries (unlike THK), but the other companies I have mentioned either, except maybe the bananas.

    I have ordered it for myself as Hounddogmom on this website recommended it.

    I feed Ziwipeak too. And I also like the K9! The lamb is high on fat, but the others are fine.
    My dogs LOVE it too.

    Why we got the idea about Answers is because these companies now start using a process for pasteurization or something called HPP. K9 and Answers not, some of the other companies do at least some of their meats.

    I like Fromm better than Earthborne for various reasons, beside my dogs don’t like the flavor of Earthborne. Also Canidea has its issues; they used to be really good until they got sold and they were having recalls too. I believe that there is a quality issue.

    You should look into Health extension/vets choice and Horizon, beside Fromm, all 3 are highly recommended and VERY safe solid companies. I hope you can get them in Au.
    They are human grade and Fromm has its own plant (so do the others) but Fromm plant is USDA inspected. They do In house as well as Third party lab testing.
    I only feed kibble 3 times a week. I’m in California and I’m able to get here organic chicken tights for $ 3 a # , lamb from NewZealand for $ 5.99 a #, plus I give them fresh pork too. They don’t always eat the raw, so I have to cook some of it or ‘hide’ it with Ziwipeak Venison. Sometimes with shredded cheese.
    I add herbs, spirulina, kelp, probiotics, vegetables, fruits, anchovy oil from Iceland, some garlic and ginger etc.
    I think Grandma Lucy is not bad, it is just heated just like The Honest Kitchen is heated too, (which I don’t recommend, as I had stated on sojos why, but I’m sure it is decent food; bottom line is my dogs won’t eat it, and they don’t source locally but purchase from like 10 different countries vegetables instead of buying them from the USA).

  • LawofRaw

    Urban Wolf and Answers? Are these brands of BARF type frozen patties? I haven’t heard of them. Don’t think they’re sold in Australia. I used to buy the BARF patties here down under, but not anymore. I get all my foods for my dogs from butchers, fruit markets and other meat sellers, and sometimes supermarkets with a couple of exceptions. I buy small bags of Eathborne Holistic Primitive Kibble, and Canidae Pure formulas for Buster Cube treats and very occasionally as a main meal topped with organic plain yoghurt.
    Also I will also very occasionally feed them ZiwiPeak canned and K9′s raw frozen green tripe. I can get the actual raw frozen K9 one down here, not the freeze dried one.

  • Cindy

    To Whom It Might Concern: I understand you don’t like me and have to down vote me strategically, even if I only state facts and then if someone else who is your buddy says the same thing you up vote them. It is like the person sitting in the basement and having nothing better to do being obsessed with the computer and all they do all they long is down vote-down vote Cindy. Got it. Very childish, always the same people. Do something positive! You ABUSE down voting as you just want to make me look less credible. Remember High school or Middle school? We are grown ups now and can accept when people have different points of views or not?…

  • Cindy

    LawofRaw, have you ever checked out Urban Wolf and Answers?
    I find these the most decent ones these days regarding mixes/raw.

  • Cindy

    LawoRaw, Yes it is very misleading what these companies say and in reality then do. They should say on their website ‘cooked and freeze dried’ not just ‘freeze dried’. Same I just found out about Primal, making it sound on their website that all food is made in their own plant, but it is Morasch meats (NW naturals) that make their food. Maybe they make their freeze dried food in their own plant.
    But why be so vague; it is all such a convenient sales pitch with these companies!
    However, I do like the fact about Grandma Lucy that the ingredients are all human grade and originate mostly from the US. They also have their own plant.
    Yes, it is better to make your own food! Now some of the frozen foods are being HPP treated. I feed now not 50% but 90% home made foods. I give some commercial food to assure they have everything they need, but when you see what companies do these days, it is very discouraging.

  • LawofRaw

    They cook it, then freeze dry it? Oh no, that is not freeze dried in my opinion! Well it is, but after they have cooked it. So now this food is altered and treated in multiple ways. Wow, I’d steer clear from this food, coming from a pure raw advocate’s perspective!

  • Cindy

    Shawna, got email back from Grandma Lucy; it is true that they cook the product before they freeze dry it. So that is discerning. Why call It ‘freeze dried’ then since it is ‘cooked and freeze dried’? However, I like the fact that the produce comes from the USA and everything is human grade according to them. They also have their own facility (not USDA inspected).

  • Ariana
  • Kirstin

    Ok so we are trying this one now….. I am desperately searching for a grain free dog food that works for my allergy skinned westie. I have tried many since we got him at 3 months, now 7 months, and his belly has hated them all. I have yet to witness a solid poop out of my pup! The closest we came was 2 days ago with the Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Venison. I was literally doing back flips, He has 2 days of solid -ish stool and no gas, fast forward to that evening when he woke and had diarrhea in 3 rooms in the house. He hadn’t eaten anything until this morning when he nibbled some Grandma Lucy’s and vomited and then diarrhea again with blood in his stool. I am so upset, and don’t know what to do. Do I try the Grandma Lucy’s again since it appeared to be working originally, or should I try yet ANOTHER grain free food. What we’ve tried so far is Merrick buffalo, Natural Balance LID fish, Nature’s Variety, duck and sweet potato, and Nature’s Variety LID Lamb. I also had him on Vetri-Probiotic which seemed to help until I noticed that he was chewing his hind leg and developing a hot spot. I suspect it was the brewers dried yeast. Also worth mentioning that initially he LOVED to eat the Grandma’s, but since feeling sick he’s turning his nose up at it, but still obviously very hungry, he keeps trying to eat the Nature’s Variety I have in a tin next to the Grandma Lucy’s. Any help would be so very appreciated by me and my Westie. Thank you!

  • ChrisJ

    I started feeding this to my “allergy dog” when she was at her worst. Bloody diarrhea and refusal to eat at all. I thought we would lose her. Then a self-professed “holistic healer” gave me a sample of the Artisan Chicken. My dog ate that every day until she passed away at age 17! She absolutely thrived on it.

  • SS

    This review doesn’t do justice to this food lumping it in the same category as any other grain free food. But let me back up a bit…our dog had chronic diahrea since he was a pup. After spending a small fortune on treatments, prescription and high end food (you name it we tried it), tests etc we gave up as did the vets (4 different ones). I swore going back to the basic PurinaOne or Iams stuff because it did make a difference to him, he loves to eat anything. Then we ended up talking to the owner of a small pet food place in our neighborhood. By that time I’d already swore I wouldn’t try yet another different/expensive food claiming to work a miracle. She told us to just bring the food back if it doesn’t help in two weeks and we had nothing to lose. The food was expensive as heck but low and behold it did the trick. We couldn’t believe it! We had to go back to her to thank her and tell her that what the vets couldn’t fix she did it. I’m so glad I listened to her advice – one last advice. The food was Grandma Lucy’s Artisan – Chicken flavor. The reason it works is not just because it’s grain free (we tried several) it’s not processed like the normal dog and cat food. It’s dehydrated sort of like the Mountain House backpacking and hiking food. It’s expensive (are you listening Grandma Lucy?) but I’m a believer.

  • Petsmart

    Mostly mashed white potato so far as I can tell and strong smell of garlic. Evidence if meat is pretty nil. You mostly dis this product then give it 4 stars. Seems odd I will not buy it again. Just soupy package mashed potato mix is all I see

  • Debi

    My dashound/terrier mix is aleargic (sp) to everything….I think I have tried every dog food known to mankind….grain free, egg free, wheat free, etc…none of them worked til now.  She would always be itching her face, and she would have large bumps around her mouth, eyes, and ears.  But this Artisan formula has stopped it in its tracks!  All I know is that my dog no longer suffers, and loves this food.  You just need to remember to let it SIT for a while to reconstitute.  I have tried all of their flavors, and she is fine.  I have even tasted this dog food – its good!

  • ohnoesaz

    There’s been many remarks that GL’s Artisan smells like garlic. Well, yes it does, but I don’t find it any different than the garlic you’d smell with a gourmet roasted chicken plate at a restaurant, for example. I think the point is garlic scent just overpowers everything.

    To be honest.. My mouth waters when I smell this food after rehydration… garlic and all.

    All five of my dogs love it (pork version) and none have had any problems.

    For some reason GL rehydrates really well unlike The Honest Kitchen which needs to be ‘nudged’ along with a fork and bowl tilting etc. I don’t know how GL accomplishes this, but I hope it’s not through some sort of extra food processing.

  • Melissaandcrew

    pd350z -

    I have not used the Artisan-I use the Pureformance chicken and my dogs all do well with it(some have problems with the carrots from time to time). I did have a few cups left in a bag, which I suspect I should have used up sooner, and two vomited, and two others had diarrhea. That was a first for this food, so guessing once opened, its best used asap.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    What were they eating before Grandma Lucy’s and for how long?  Do you rotate foods often or feed various kinds?

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I use Grandma Lucy’s Pureformance Rabbit and the food is fantastic. There must have been something wrong with your bag

  • pd350z

    I purchased the Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Lamb for my 3 little dogs. The first dog became ill with gastroenteritis after a couple of days on the food. We took her off for a while and tried it again. She became ill again. Then the second dog became deathly ill with bloody diarrhea. The vet feels it is probably the food since that was the only change. Many $$$ of vet bills later I tossed all the food. When wet this  food smells like rotten meat  disguised with garlic.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/KE4LBKCFSDFYHJBFVCFUATEV5A J Bender

    Anybody know??????  Grandma Lucy’s freeze dried was mistakenly delivered to my home while I was gone a few hours.  In that time, my 2 60# dogs ripped the bag open.  (The place stunk from garlic)   Hard to tell how much they might have eaten.   So, would eating an excessive amount cause serious problems?

  • M Ward1993

    It looked to me like mashed potatoes when I wet it. I guess I will stick with Natural Balance Venison and Sweet Potato dry with some canned to add some extra meat…that stuff looked like rabbit food.

  • Lisa

    I had to stop this food for my allergy dog. She starting doing this licking thing, and looked like she was having a hard time swallowing, so I cut back and then I gave her 1/2 tablespoon and she started doing the same exact thing again, so I asked the Nutritionist Vet I am seeing what to do and she said stop it. The garlic could of been to irritating to her throat since she is so sensitive, is what she said. Other then the that, she was ok. I felt bad because she went bananas over this food, but she seems to like HK just as much., and shes not doing that licking thing after at all, she was even licking the walls and the carpet. I had never seen her do that before. 

  • Lisa

    My Beagle is allergic to lamb. I have the Venison. They love it. Have you seen the Acana duck? My other beagle loves that food!! I started rotating foods for her. My allergy beagle, hoping this Venison works and then want to try the Bison and honest kitchen love. For her not to itch immediately after eating is a great sign.

  • Lisa

    I have the Venison. My dogs were dancing in the kitchen for this food! Started it yesterday. No runny bowels, no upset stomach yet. Bella did not go run and itch immediately after which is a good sign. Only thing is they like it so much they both ate it way to fast! They are only at 4 tablespoons each. So far so good. Bella was so excited her little legs were shaking. Lol

  • hounddogmom12

    Yeah, The Honest Kitchen is listed under raw and that is cooked also.

  • goliaths mom

    Not sure why this is classified under Raw…The meat is cooked.

  • Catie Beatty

    I just tried a sample of the lamb formula and it has made my dog sooo sick. Apparently I have found some new food allergies! If your dog has a sensative stomache, be careful with this food!

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  • Karla

    Can you give directions on how to dehydrate the canned food? Do you use a dehydrator or your oven?

  • aimee

    I bought this food for my dog who is currently doing very well  on a vet venison and potato diet. Unfortunately, he refuses to eat it.

    I find the food to have a very strong garlic odor to it. My husband who is very sensitive to the smell of garlic said the odor of this food makes him nauseous.

    I’m not a fan of garlic for dogs, so personally even if my guy would eat it, I would likely only feed this intermittently as a topper.  

     

  • Linda J. Campanario

    Has Food Advisor check out the New Granma Lucy’s Pure Formance Rabitt and Pumkin?  I would like to know how it is rated.

  • Adoggyluver

    May I suggest you make a change about the meat being lost, because all the meat and potatoes are precooked.

  • luloopsoops1

    I stretch it by mixing in sweet potato, steamed broccoli, organic green beans, canned pumpkin. I’ll occasionally throw in an egg. My dogs LOVE this food. Their coats are so soft and glossy too.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Ron, Sandy and Monkey… Oops! There it is. This looks like an interesting improvement over Grandma Lucy’s Artisan line. More meat. Low-glycemic legumes (pulses). Sweet. I’ll try to get to this soon. Thanks for the tip.

  • sandy

    http://grandmalucys.com/dog.html

    And their customer service said their meat is precooked before freeze drying.

  • monkey

    This is the chicken she is talking about. 34%/9%
    http://grandmalucys.com/pureformance_chicken.html

    This is the rabbit. 36%/14%
    http://grandmalucys.com/pureformance_rabbit.html

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    HI Sandy… Not sure where you see these particular foods. Do you have a link?

  • sandy

    Pureformance Chicken might make it onto the Best Low Fat Foods List, and the Rabbit formula to the Hypoallergenic List?

  • Ron

    Hi Mike, I’m not sure it will change the numbers much, exchanging one carb. for another, but chick peas do have a lower glycemic value than white potato.
    The three new foods, are Chicken, Lamb, and Rabbit based.
    Chicken around 8% fat and the Lamb and Rabbit around 14% fat on label. All with around mid-to high 30′s in the protein. How much is actually meat is the question. I will give them a call and see if I can find out anything.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Ron… Thanks for the tip.

  • Ron

    I saw where GL has come out with a product called Pure Performance without potato, it has chickpeas instead.

  • Jackie

    I buy this food for my miniature poodle, as part of his rotation of foods. He loves it, and on cold days I can feed him a warm food. I tasted it too; it tastes just like human food. The chicken flavor is the least expensive, so I get that one. His droppings are always firm on this food. It is my go-to when he isn’t feeling well. His allergies are a lot better now than when I adopted him. He looks great. I highly recommend giving this food a try! The cheapest place I can get it is doggiefood.com, but I expect if you have a local seller it is less expensive. I also tried the comparable Honest Kitchen product (Keen flavor), but found that #1 the texture was not as good and #2 a lot of the food appeared to be undigested with whole pieces in the poop. So I am not convinced that it that much better for the money.
    You can mix GL half and half with kibble to make it cheaper, too. I also add Solid Gold Seameal supplement, which is kind of powder-looking and stirs in easily. Try this food, my picky dog liked it and hopefully yours will too.

  • krista waters

    I got some gramma lucys as petfood samples and my girl did not like it…in my sisters words it looked disgusting.

  • Gateswood

    Mike, you could look a little deeper than the ultimate quantity of meat in this food and see another huge benefit. I’ am especially speaking of a variety you did not review, the Artisan Pork. This, at 39%, has a much higher level of protein than the others. Even with this very reasonable protein level, it is impressively low in phosphorus. Phosphorus so low you can actually support a highly active dog and remain below the 100 mg/kg recommendation of the NRC. Try that with any kibble and you’ll generally bust the budget by around 2.5x

    As a diehard Orijen and Honest Kitchen feeder, my 13 year old Border Collie’s aging kidneys and a quest for lower dietary phosphorus have led me to Grandma’s food. The Artisan Pork, at 39% protein and a minuscule 0.45% phosphorus, looks quite impressive when compared to Orijen Puppy at 40% protein and 1.3% phosphorus or Honest Kitchen Zeal at 36% protein and 0.78% phosphorus. Grandma gives you 100 calories at the expense of 108 mg P while the Zeal is 212 mg P per hundred and the Orijen is an even higher 313 mg per 100.

    It’s easy to add high quality amendments to increase protein (egg whites) and fats (coconut/olive/fish) without introducing any noticeable amount of phosphorus. It’s much more difficult to reduce high dietary phosphorus in the staple food by amendments. In this regard, I think Grandma Lucy’s food may be an important tool for those who view food as medicine and we’re giving it a try.

    It’s looking good so far. Within a week I should have my boy below 15 mg of phosphorus per lb of body weight but still at more than 1½ grams of protein per pound of body weight. He’ll be getting the same basic macronutrient levels and calories as usual but his dietary phosphorus intake will be cut by more than half. It will be 25% of what it would be if I was feeding him straight Orijen.

  • Pat

    I just recently purchased Grandma Lucy’s freeze dried dog food. I have a Boxer and have complained many times about the number of times she goes to the bathroom each day….like it seems like 40 lbs! Anyway, since I’ve been feeding her GL’s food, she goes twice a day and very small amounts each time….what a difference! It tells me a big story…..her body is using most of the ingredients in GL’s food which has to be better for her. The other food I was feeding her was supposed to be excellent food with no corn, wheat, soy, gluten, etc. in it, no pesticides, etc., but it was still dry dog food. I have to believe GL’s food is much better for her.

  • Robin

    I have only bought the small bags, and I mix it ‘medium oatmeal’ consistency. It does make ALOT of food, and you cann mix it thinner to make even more. But I top with it. My dogs love it!!

  • Gina

    The 10lb bag makes 55lbs of food, after adding water. So, it’s not as bad as it sounds :)

  • Michelle

    $ 70.00 for 10lb of food ? That is outrageous.

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Marc – You write “Grandma Lucy’s . . price, pound for pound it’s significantly cheaper than the dry premium food I was feeding.”

    10# bag average cost is $70. http://www.grandmalucys.com/retail/home.php?cat=6

    You have 2 big dogs. How much do they weigh?
    How much does it cost per day to feed both dogs?
    What brand of dry premium food were you feeding that cost more than Grandma Lucy’s?

  • Marc

    Grandma Lucy’s changed my dogs’ eating habits almost instantly. They dance around while it is being prepared (that has never happened) and they really gobble it up. I have a lab and a doberman mix and both have always had bad gas problems UNTIL they started eating Grandma Lucy’s. Now, gas is very rare. Our lab also had terrible stomach bloat issues on a regular basis before Grandma Lucy’s and now she rarely has this problem. And for the price, pound for pound it’s significantly cheaper than the dry premium food I was feeding.

  • Callie

    I have just started my 7 yr old terrier/shitsu on the meatless product of Grandma Lucy’s, adding my own meat. Like JakeDog’s comments earlier I find a huge increase in her stool amount & frequency from when she was on kibble type food. I am wondering if she is getting proper nutrition or is it just passing right through her? Stool is well formed, no diarrhea. She is 15 lbs and I’m giving her 1/2 cup dry plus water and 1/4 cup meat in the morning and again in the evening. This appears to be the minimum quantity for her weight, but should I cut her back further?

  • Ron

    It would probably be okay,my main problem with it, is my dog
    had a lot of gas with it, which I “think” may have been a problem with all the potato in it. One draw back is that it may be very expensive to feed for a large dog.

  • Jennifer

    Is this food OK for Large/Giant breed dogs? I have been told great things about this dog food, Ive been doing my research and would like to try it out for my dogs. But I have a 8 month old great Dane and didn’t know if this food was only for small breeds….Thanks

  • Tish

    After my bug (half pug and Boston terrier) developed a rash when her previous kibble changed its formulation (Purina One), a guy at the local pet shop recommended Grandma Lucy’s. My dog has never been food motivated – until now. She LOVES this stuff. She is a pretty picky eater and she many times would leave half of her dinner. She now cleans the bowl and then cries for more…I’m not exaggerating. It’s like she’s a different dog! Anyway, I do wonder if this food has more fiber or something because she seems so much hungrier. She is noticeably eating a lot more, even begging for treats which she has NEVER done. I’ve been giving her the same quantity (ish) that I was giving of her previous food. Does this food move faster through the system or something? Perhaps it’s the doggie equivalent of Chinese food? She does seem hungry again within an hour… From reading the comments, it sounds like I’m not the only one who is experiencing this with this food.

  • Ron

    In my opinion after trying this food a while back, it would be a much, much better food if they left the potato out, when you rehydrate , its looks like mashed potato’s to much. Made my dog somewhat gassy.

    They do have a great web-site though.

  • Patricia

    I bought this food because my white collie seems to have an allergy to the oils in the dry kibble. I thought I would try this food with the human grade chicken I am feeding plus green beans and sweet potato or baked potato. My dog really liked it as a topping, and so far no itching from the flaxseed oil.
    Maybe he will be able to tolerate the flaxseed, when he could not the sunflower and canola oils used in other dry food.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Gina… Comparing the meat content of this recipe to most kibbles, Grandma Lucy’s is really a 4.5 to 5 star dog food. However, comparing the product to other raw foods (which in our database average 41% protein content and 27% fat), this product demonstrates below-average protein, below-average fat and above-average carbs. In any case, even with an apparently below-average meat content, Grandma Lucy’s still qualifies for a “highly recommended” 4-star rating.

  • Gina

    Oops, sorry. I meant 30….goodness having an exhausting 5 year old is catching up to me!

  • Gina

    One more question, sorry. Is this a 4 star food because the protein percent is only 29? Just curious! Thanks :)

  • Gina

    JakeDog,
    What kind of dog do you have? I had a border collie who I had a very hard time keeping weight on no matter how much I fed him. He was never skinny, but just had a very fast metabolism and was very lean. Is your dog’s ribs or hip bones sticking out? If not then he is probably fine. The way I look at it, it’s better to be a little on the skinny side than to be overweight.

  • Gina

    Is this food raw freeze dried? Or is it cooked and then freeze dried? I am looking on the bag and I don’t see anywhere where it says it is raw. I just picked up a 10# bag of the chicken flavor, for $50 including tax at my local pet supply outlet. Seems to be a good deal, hopefully my dogs do good on this. I am going to feed half of this and half kibble.

  • JakeDog

    We have been very happy with Grandma Lucy and so far it is the only food our dog has not had a reaction to. The one side effect has been that he is skinny. He is almost two years old so still very active but we can not seem to put any weight on and he is constantly hungry, in addition his stool is now a substantially larger and more frequent. I am wondering if the ingredients aren’t “sticking to his ribs”, so to speak. Have you heard of other dogs losing weight on this food?

  • Carol

    Our 3 year old shih tzu-terrier mix loves the Grandma Lucy’s venison. She weighs 7 pounds. I mix up one cup with one and a half cups of water and keep in fridge. She gets one tablespoon Am and Pm. I top each serving with one teaspoon EVO 95% beef canned food. She was always very picky and now she sits and waits for her food. I always keep a bowl of Orijen dried food down for her to snack on. Also, I dehydrate cans of EVO venison, duck and beef and break into small pieces for her treats. She loves them!!!

  • Laura

    Kristin! Thank you for posting the spreadsheet on prices of foods. It’s wonderful!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Arwen… To learn more about rosemary, please visit our FAQ and look for the topic, “Dog Food Ingredients”.

  • Arwen

    I just found this about rosemary, an ingredient in this food:

    http://www.thedogpress.com/Columns/PetFood-Rosemary-Neurotoxin-10032_Liquorman.asp

    Looks like it’s another questionable ingredient…

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Colleen… Since each dog responds to a particular food in its own way, it’s impossible for me to offer you an answer. Wish I could be more help.

  • colleen

    my 12 year old lab that is a picky eater loves Grandma Lucy’s, but we have had 2 bouts of diarrhea, that were more than ever before. not sure if that’s a case of old age or the food, any thoughts?

  • Kyrie S.

    lol, I corrected one flavor but not the other so it was definitely lamb that we bought.

  • Kyrie S.

    I have two danes and have rescued and adopted out two boxadors. We’ve been through all kinds of dog foods and this was our first freeze dried food (some people are so picky about the wording) and it was funny. We got chicken flavored. Our 6 month old dane sniffed it then refused to touch it for hours. He wouldn’t let anyone else have it but he had to think about it. The other dogs scarfed in down pretty fast even though I’d describe it as thin gruel. lol. It had a very “green peppery” smell. I did notice that the amount of meat was tiny compared to potato even though it said lamb was the number one ingredient but after reading your articles I now know why. We decided to try a few other foods before deciding on what to use to replace canned food in our dogs’ diets.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Kim… Finding (dog or human) food made with superior grade hormone-free and antibiotic-free meat isn’t especially easy. But it isn’t impossible, either.

    Unfortunately, because of the never-ending recipe changes and ingredient sourcing in the pet food industry, we make no attempt to track details like this. To learn why, please be sure to read my article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews“.

    However, to help narrow your choices significantly, I can’t remember ever finding high quality (and more costly) ingredients like these in anything except 4 or 5-star dog foods. So, first, choose whether you want to feed your dog dry, wet or raw dog food. Then look for a few 4 or 5-star foods to find a few candidates for your research. You can even focus on dog foods marketed as organic. Hope this helps.

  • Kim

    Mike, what are your thoughts on the meat in dog food being hormone and antibiotic free? From what I’ve read so far, it doesn’t sound like many are and I don’t see that you have commented on it. Now that I’m becoming more educated in this area, I hesitate to want to feed my dog a brand that uses chicken or meat from animals that have been given hormones and antibiotics. I don’t personally eat them and don’t want to feed them to my dog either. Is this a legitimate concern or am I off base? Thanking you ahead for your response.

  • Mary

    I have a 5 month old chihuahua puppy who is the most finicky eater on the planet. He will NOT eat any form of kibble… to him that is something you carry around and hide (under furniture or his bedding, in corners) or bat it around like a ball on the floor. I tried moistening it, adding canned puppy food ( doesn’t like canned food) and he would not eat it. Most kibble he would not even pick up in his mouth and I have tried so many different kinds of food. I even bought expensive food from our vet and he still wouldn’t eat (he’s thin and nips). Finally, I went to a different pet store and the clerk gave me samples of Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Chicken and Pork Dinners. I brought them home and tried the pork dinner first… wow… my baby’s nose was in the air sniffing while I was mixing it and he was jumping around excited… that was new… Once it was ready I put the dish down and my puppy immediately started eating… My little darling even stopped part way through came over rubbed his head against my foot as if to say thank you, finally what I like and then went back to eating and licked the bowl clean. He has been licking his bowl clean ever since. He doesn’t care for the chicken much, pork seems to be his thing for the moment. He is such a different dog, no more nipping (guess he isn’t hungry or angry anymore) and he has put weight on finally… happy momma and baby. Grandma Lucy’s was the only thing my baby would eat when I was scared he was starving himself, plus, his coat is so nice and shiny now too. I love Grandma Lucy’s and can’t say enough.

  • Jane

    Grandma Lucy’s food is freeze dried, not dehydrated. The Honest Kitchen is dehydrated. Freeze dried retains more nutrients. At least that’s what I understand. This site should correct the page on Grandma Lucy to distinguish the freeze dried technique. My dog loves this food.

  • Kendall

    Two of our three Yorkies and our Lab/Collie Mix show higher liver functions that are concerning to our Vet. Please suggest a 5 Star dry food to meet our health needs.

    Thanks:)

  • Jackie

    Thanks Kristin for the spreadsheet– mine didn’t show any data about the dehydrated type dog foods though. It is showing Dry, Canned, the stars that relate to each, and notes. It is still helpful to know though, thanks! Apparently Grandma Lucy’s is available at Petco, unlike Sojo’s or Honest Kitchen. None of those are available at PetsMart either. Out here in West TX it can be hard to find specialty items and online shopping jacks up the shipping.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Meredith… Freeze dried is simply another way to dry a dog food.

  • Meredith D

    Isn’t Grandma Lucy’s food freeze-dried NOT dehydrated?

  • DAWN LEDER

    KATHY YOU ARE SO RIGHT AND GLAD YOU EXPLAINED IT BETTER THEN I :o)
    BY THE WAY,,,I HAVE BEEN USING K9NATURAL FOR 3 MOS NOW –ON AND OFF WITH DARWINS RAW AND NATURES VARIETY….. MY 2 YR OLD BEAGLE AND MY 5 MO BEAGLE PUPPY LOVE ALL HEIR RAW FOOD..BU I DO HAVE TO SAY THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO BE VERY HUNGRY AFTER THE K9NATURAL..AND IT IS VERY VERY EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING OLDER THEN A 10LB DOG….BUT IT IS GOOD AND FREEZE DRIED RAW IS SO NICE AND EASY TO SERVE (I ALWAYS FORGET TO DEFROST THE FROZEN RAW LOL) BUT…ALL GOOD THINGS ARE MORE EXPENSIVE THE FROZEN RAW IS MUCH CHEAPER THEN THE FREEZE DRIED. AT THE END OF THE MONTH K9 WILL BE COMING OUT WITH FREEZE DRIED TRIPE TOO I CANT WAIT FOR THAT! NOW THATS A GREAT TOPPER.
    I JUST WANTED TO ADD MY 2 CENTS TO POOR LINDSAY
    I KNOW THE FRUSTRATION WITH DOGS JUST STOP EATING WHAT THEY USE TO…I DID NOTICE THOUGH WHEN I DECIDED TO DO AS YOU AND SERVE SO MANY DIFF BRANDS THEY DO GET FRUSTRATED WITH IT AND NO LONGER WANT TO DO :o/ ALSO THE TREAT TOPPERS ARE NOT NUTRITIOUS??(I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH YOUR USING)….VERY BAD FOR THE TEETH AND USUALLY TREATS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH NUTRITIOUS INGREDIENTS! UNLESS USING FREEZE DRIED RAW FOODS? WHICH OF COURSE IS THE BEST :o) MY BABIES GET ALL RAW SO IM A NUT ABOUT DEHYDRATED FREEZE DRIED AND FROZEN RAW FOODS….MAYBE YOU COULD SWITCH TO THAT FOR HIS SOLE FOOD? :o) MIKE HAS ALL THE GREAT RAW FOOD DIETS ONES REVIEWED ON HERE! :o)
    BEST WISHES TO YOU AND YOUR SWEET LAB…<3

  • Kathy

    Dogs don’t have the enzyme that digests onions like people do. This will cause their red blood cells to break apart. It can cause anemia and they can die from eating onions and large amounts of garlic. Please don’t add onions or garlic to your dog’s food.

  • cLotriet

    Oh, and I’m still waiting patiently for and looking forward to your review of Sojo’s Complete freeze-dried dog food. :)

  • cLotriet

    Thank you Mike for reviewing this food! I have been waiting months for this since we’ve been using Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Chicken and Pork for about 6 months now. I highly trust your ratings and wanted to use Honest Kitchen but couldn’t afford it…then we found Grandma Lucy’s (much much cheaper) and our Bullmastiff lives for the stuff! We mix it with Blue Buffalo and so far so good. Thanks again for rating this food! Also, garlic (and also onion) is one of the SUPER-HEALER foods God created that is pretty much good for everything in the body and acts as a natural anti-biotic and healer.

  • Lindsay

    Btw thanks for all the good advice mike! I read your site daily and I recommend it to all of the dog lovers I know!

  • Lindsay

    I tried all sorts of canned foods, cal nat, evo, totw, wellness, bb, I have even tried yogurt, low sodium organic broths, raw meat. so far these dehydrated treats I purchased have been the only thing that works. I think it’s because the flakes cling to the kibble and he doesn’t really care to eat his food wet which is frustrating to mr because I always added water to his food in the past because it is much easier on their kidneys but recently he won’t even look at his food if it’s wet. Uhg the psychology of a dog! Where are the answers!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Jenah… K9 Natural is already on my To Do list but due to our current backlog, it could be a while before we get to it. Thanks for the suggestion.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Lindsaylmb… I believe topping might very well be the answer. However, I think you could choose something better than a dehydrated topper (even once it’s been re-hydrated). Good quality canned foods make great toppers. Especially the “ground’ type rather than the kind with stew chunks. Mash to kibble and the wet food together. This is what we do four our finicky Bailey. And he gobbles everything up.

  • Jenah

    Just to clear up the processing with Grandma Lucy’s, it’s not a dehydrated food technically. They steam the raw veggies, meat, and potatoes first at 220* for 15 minutes and then everything is freeze-dried. Freeze-drying removes water, but retains a bit more nutrients than straight up dehydrating (though the ingredients were steamed first anyways).

    Mike, have you reviewed K9 Natural yet?

  • Lindsaylmb

    I currently feed a rotation of five star grain free foods; titw, evo, cal nat grain free etc. One of my dogs has suddenly become a very picky eater and he is a lab so it has become very difficult form me to wrap my head around him not scarfing his food. The trouble I am having is related to the other dogs because he cannot “graze” on his food as they will eat it. I have been topping his food with grain free freeze dried treats that I crush up and that has worked like a charm but at $10 for 4oz I need to find something different. Would Grandma lucys be a good option as a topper? I have also looked at honest kitchen thy sell a 4oz pouch for about $4, or ziwi 3# for about $20 what do you think mike?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Great job, Kristin. We’ll refer folks to this comment whenever they ask about pricing. Thanks from everyone.

  • http://dogoninn.com Kristin

    According to my research, Grandma Lucy’s Freeze Dried food is the least expensive 5 star food available. Here’s the data: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmNw5KB82-n_dGtyOEpVVXhPQ2tfeU1FUGdEdjVnTkE&hl=en
    (This is based on the assumption that a 10 lb bag of the chicken, pork, lamb, or venison formula makes 56.7 lbs when rehydrated. Buffalo is only available in a 3 lb bag which makes 17 lbs.)

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  • http://www.FidoDogTreats.com Dave H.

    We sell all of the Grandma Lucy’s Artisan foods and the feedback that we get is very positive. Grandma Lucy’s uses human quality ingredients. They were actually sued by a state, although I can’t remember which one, as the state took issue with Grandma Lucy’s statement about “Human Grade Ingredients” on their label. Grandma Lucy’s won the case and the label is still on their packaging.

    I’d like to add something to Mike’s statement about protein content. Many dog foods boast about the percentage of protein in their foods. Keep in mind that all proteins are not equally digestible and lesser foods use low quality protein sources to boost the percentages shown in the guaranteed analysis.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Kathy… Almost every pet food manufacturer gets their vitamins and minerals as a “mix” from outside suppliers. In any case, I’m not sure what these particles might be.

  • Kathy

    Mike, I have been using the Grandma Lucy’s Artisan Chicken for awhile. I noticed that after I hydrate the food for several minutes, I see bits of something sparkling in the food. I can actually move the pieces around with my finger. I called the company and was told that they think it’s vitamin powder and it doesn’t melt down completely with the hot water. They get the vitamins from a manufacturer. Has anyone else questioned this and does anyone have any answers?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Steve… Your point is well-taken. During my initial research of Honest Kitchen I had noted the company’s claim that “we make our human grade pet foods from dehydrated whole food ingredients”. From that statement, I may have incorrectly assumed the raw ingredients were dehydrated prior to fabricating the actual product.

    Thanks to your question and my subsequent reconsideration of The Honest Kitchen article, I’ve removed that erroneous statement from the review.

    However, this adjustment has no effect on our star ratings.

    In any case, the percentages published in both reviews is taken directly from the products’ Guaranteed Analysis and are a true reflection of the protein content of the finished products. Thanks for calling this to my attention.

  • Steve

    Mike, A question on this Grandma Lucy’s compared to Honest Kitchen. On the Honest Kitchen review you say that the lead protein source has had the water removed from it to form the true first ingredient. Yet in the Grandma Lucy’s review you say that potatoes would be the lead ingredient because the protein source is listed at it’s water weight. But when comparing the dashboard indicators the protein in Grandma Lucys is higher, but in the ball park of Honest Kitchen as are the fat and carb levels. I guess Im confused as Grandma Lucy’s should have a lower protein level and higher carb level than Honest Kitchen.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Pia… The answer to your question can be found on our FAQ page regarding the topic, “Dog Food Ingredients”.

  • Pia Florenzano

    all sound good exept for the garlic,im just afraid to feed my aussies garlic what is it good for?