Diamond Naturals (Dry)


Rating: ★★★★☆

Diamond Naturals Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Diamond Naturals product line includes 12 dry dog foods, three claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages and nine for adult maintenance.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Diamond Naturals Senior Dog
  • Diamond Naturals Lite Adult Dog (2 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Adult Chicken and Rice
  • Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete (4.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Small Breed Puppy (4.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Large Breed Puppy (3.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice
  • Diamond Naturals Adult Beef Meal and Rice (3.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Adult Lamb Meal and Rice (3.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Chicken and Rice (4.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Large Breed Adult Chicken and Rice (3.5 stars)
  • Diamond Naturals Large Breed Adult Lamb Meal and Rice (3.5 stars)

Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Lamb and Rice

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 28% | Fat = 17% | Carbs = 48%

Ingredients: Lamb, lamb meal, ground white rice, cracked pearled barley, peas, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), dried beet pulp, egg product, fish meal, natural flavor, flaxseed, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, l-carnitine, kale, chia seed, pumpkin, blueberries, oranges, quinoa, dried kelp, coconut, spinach, carrots, papaya, Yucca schidigera extract, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium animalis fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus reuteri fermentation product, vitamin E supplement, beta carotene, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin (vitamin B2), vitamin D supplement, folic acid

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 3.3%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis25%15%NA
Dry Matter Basis28%17%48%
Calorie Weighted Basis24%35%41%
Protein = 24% | Fat = 35% | Carbs = 41%

The first ingredient in this dog food is lamb. Although it is a quality item, raw lamb contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is lamb meal. Lamb meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh lamb.

The third ingredient is ground white rice, another name for rice flour. Ground rice is made from either white or brown rice and is considered a gluten-free substitute for wheat flour.

The fourth ingredient is barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. However, aside from its energy content, this cereal grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fifth ingredient includes peas. Peas are a quality source of carbohydrates. And like all legumes, they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, peas contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The sixth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The seventh ingredient is beet pulp. Beet pulp is a controversial ingredient, a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing.

Some denounce beet pulp as an inexpensive filler while others cite its outstanding intestinal health and blood sugar benefits.

We only call your attention here to the controversy and believe the inclusion of beet pulp in reasonable amounts in most dog foods is entirely acceptable.

The eighth ingredient is egg product, an unspecified (wet or dry?) form of shell-free eggs. Quality can vary significantly. Lower grade egg product can even come from commercial hatcheries — from eggs that have failed to hatch.

In any case, eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The ninth ingredient is fish meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

Unfortunately, this particular item is anonymous. Because various fish contain different types of fats, we would have preferred to have known the source species.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With six notable exceptions

First, flaxseed is one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

Next, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

In addition, we find chia seed, an edible seed nutritionally similar to flax or sesame. Provided they’re first ground into a meal, chia seeds are rich in both omega-3 fatty acids as well as dietary fiber.

However, chia seeds contain about 17% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

Next, this recipe contains some quinoa. Quinoa (pronounced keen-wah) is not a true cereal grain but a plant prized for its gluten-free seeds.

Compared to most other grain-type ingredients, it is high in protein (about 12-18%), dietary fiber and other healthy nutrients.

We also note the inclusion of coconut. Depending upon the quality of the raw material, coconut is rich in medium chain fatty acids.

Medium-chain triglycerides have been shown to improve cognitive function in older dogs.2

Because of its proven safety3 as well as its potential to help in the treatment of canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome (CDS) and chronic skin disorders, MCT can be considered a positive addition to this recipe.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Diamond Naturals Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Diamond Naturals Dog Food looks like an above-average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 28%, a fat level of 17% and estimated carbohydrates of about 48%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 28% and a mean fat level of 17%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 47% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 59%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

When you consider the protein-boosting effect of the peas, flaxseed, chia seed and quinoa in this recipe, and the garbanzo beans, pea or potato proteins in other recipes, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Diamond Naturals is a plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of chicken, beef or lamb meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Diamond Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

10/08/2015 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  2. Pan Y et al, Dietary supplementation with medium-chain TAG has long-lasting cognition-enhancing effects in aged dogs, British Journal of Nutrition, Volume 103, Issue 12, June 2010, pp 1746-1754
  3. Matulka RA et al, Lack of toxicity by medium chain triglycerides (MCT) in canines during a 90-day feeding study,Food Chem Toxicol, Jan 2009, 47(1) 35-9.
  • Crazy4dogs

    I don’t use this product. Did you try contacting Diamond to see if there was a change in the formula?

    Sorry your dogs are having problems. If it’s the food, what your experiencing is why so many do rotational feeding. You might want to try a different food. Good luck, hope they get better.

  • Carrie Kimel

    I have been using the senior dog food for years. They recently changed the packaging and when they did my dogs cannot stop scratching or chewing making hot spots. I have taken them to the vet and there is some type of new allergy they have developed since the change. Has anyone else noticed this problem?

  • Dori

    It’s really an individual issue just like with people. Some can tolerate some ingredients, some proteins and other’s cannot. I’ve got three toy dogs one of which is intolerant to a lot of ingredients and proteins most especially poultry. The other two could eat the packaging along with the poultry and be perfectly fine. Chicken upsets my stomach regardless of how it’s cooked, my husband has an iron stomach and can eat everything and anything.

  • Pitlove

    Thats why I said its not breed specific. My does well on grains and chicken, other pitbulls and dogs in general may not.

  • Caitlin Nicole Sealey-Brown

    That’s what I meant just used the wrong words.

  • theBCnut

    It’s not a digestion issue. Many pits have food sensitivities and chicken is a common trigger.

  • Caitlin Nicole Sealey-Brown

    The reason I said that was because I’ve seen a lot of people say their Pits have a hard time with chicken. Your dog may do fine on it but another may not. I’ve heard the same about grain/gluten. From what other Pit owners have said about they’re dogs some just have a high intolerance for it.

  • Pitlove

    It’s really not breed specific. My pitbull does excellent on chicken.

  • Caitlin Nicole Sealey-Brown

    It very well could be the chicken. I’ve started to notice that some dogs, Pits I’ve heard are like this, just can’t digest chicken very well.

  • Caitlin Nicole Sealey-Brown

    I would give it a little longer. We just put our pups on Diamond Large Breed Puppy and so far they are doing great on it.

  • Eric Lemke

    I’m 4 days into switching my lab over to extreme athelete from pro plan. He has had very loose stools now for 2 days. I’m only about 1/4-1/3 diamond in his food at this point. Trainer feeds pro-plan but I’m not a huge fan. He is 17 months old. Is this normal? How long do I give it?

  • justin

    Hmmm guess I didn’t think about that. Thanks for the note.

  • Pitlove

    Thank you for sharing you and your dogs experience with Diamond. Happy to hear Extreme Athlete is working for you. Just wanted to make a note to you that low protein wouldn’t actually cause weight loss. The problem was that you have an active working dog that was eating a food that was far too low in calories (Diamond Naturals Lamb & Rice is 332 kcal/cup), so he was burning more calories than he was eating causing the weight loss. Now that you are feeding a food with over twice the amount of calories (Extreme Athlete is 470 kcal/cup) he is consuming enough calories (or maybe even a little more) than what hes burning thus helping him to put the weight back on. All in all, you made the right choice in switching to Extreme Athlete!

  • justin

    I was finally able to afford better dog food for my black lab, so after lots of research I decided to go with diamond. I started with lamb, but after he started losing weight I noticed it had low protein content (23%) so I switched to beef which has 25%. That still didn’t work and he kept getting the runs, less shiny coat, and dry skin with the beef so I switched to the extreme athlete, which is recommended 4.5 stars on this website, and has 32% protein content. More expensive but I figured out it is worth it.

    He is an avid hunting dog, and in the summer we are always training. So the high protein content is much needed. Also, the extreme athlete has more omegas, great for the skin and coat! Now, he has a very shiny coat and he gained his weight back. He is a very healthy dog.

    The point to this post is to say that for the money, the other diamond foods are great based on the ingredients, I just didn’t like the results for my dog. But for only another $10 at my local store you can by extreme athlete. It is a way better food and higher recommended. Also, with the higher protein content, you don’t have to feed your dog as much. I was feeding him 4 cups a day and he was losing weight on the beef and lamb. But he gained weight and is keeping it with 3.5 cups a day with the extreme athlete. And just because it says extreme athlete doesn’t mean your dog has to be an extreme athlete, it basically means the food has more protein compared to diamonds other foods.

    And lastly, I have read many websites where it says it is a cheaper, but just as good quality as the most highly recommended dog food, which is of course taste of the wild.

  • Crazy4cats

    No problem. Have you tried any kibble that is not chicken and rice as the main ingredients? Mine do really well with pork or beef and potato, either sweet or white. Actually did well with turkey and duck as well. I haven’t fed much lamb, have you?

  • Crazy4cats

    We are doing well, thanks. I agree, probably shouldn’t buy anymore of the DN if they really don’t like it. I haven’t always had good luck with Victor responding to my emails. You might want to give them a call. You can buy Victor from Amazon. But it is a little more expensive. Finally we have a pet supply store that started carrying it that is only about 5 miles away. Yay!

  • bmetz

    Thank you for the info! Yeah they like scrambled eggs and will eat applesauce in treats. Thank you for the advice! You rock! :)

  • bmetz

    Hi. I would say so. The closer it is to 100 the better. Haven’t heard back from the other two yet. I did find out that the Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete has a digestibility rating of 90%. Thank you for asking about them! You are so kind! :) They are still not wanting to eat the senior kibble. I have now started adding chicken and rice along with the softened food(hot water or chicken broth) and kefir. They are finally willing to dig in. My 2 boys are cleaning their bowls and my girl who needs to gain eats almost all of hers… she will stop when she feels she has gotten most of the chicken and rice out and there is only kibble left. The bag is almost gone. I think I will continue them on chicken and rice when it runs out and then transition to a new food. No point in mixing with DN if they won’t eat at all hardly. Trying to get the rest of the digestibility ratings before making a final choice. I also can’t find anywhere that has samples and the sportdog website(victor samples) won’t ship to my location. Wouldn’t mind using one of the performance/high energy for my one who needs to gain but think it may be too hard to regulate for the other 2 who need to lose and maintain. We’ll see what I hear back…hopefully soon! I prefer email so I can refer back to it if need be/share it.. but I will call soon if no response soon. Hope you are well! :)

  • Crazy4cats

    Wow! Look at you go. That is a pretty good percentage, isn’t it? I’d still like to hear what you find out about the other two as well. How are your dogs doing now? Any new news?

  • bmetz

    Hi! Well I managed to get from Diamond Naturals that the digestibility of their senior formula is 88%. Do you have another formula in particular of theirs(DN kibble) you would like to know about? Waiting to hear back from Victor and Nutrisource.

  • Crazy4cats

    I’ve been there. It’s really stressful. Sorry you are going through this. Did I give you the http://www.dogaware.com site previously? Under health and then digestive disorders, ere are many remedies for loose stools and diarrhea. I’ve used them all!! I buy frozen tripe at our feed store. It is K9 Naturals green lamb tripe. They also have dehydrated, but very expensive. Lightly cooked scrambled eggs in their kibble might entice them to eat as well. Also natural applesauce with no sugar added has pectin that helps with loose stools and your dogs will probably also like. Gotta run. Let me know how it goes!

  • bmetz

    I was looking at that kind on amazon. Good to know. Heard the tripe is good as well. Where do you get yours?

    It is kind of a long story and I kind of feel like I am at the pull my hair out stage lol!

    A little over a month ago…I gave all the dogs their heartworm prevention(Iverhart max- one dog is 25 lbs, the others are over 50 lbs so two sizes/dosages) I was also very slowly mixing new food (4health performance kibble) into their food to transition. They had been eating some of the 4health for several days at least…and had heartworm prevention. The first one to start with diarrhea was my husky. The other two then also started. I gave pepto…started on boiled chicken and rice(with a smidge of yogurt) when it didn’t resolve quickly. The two other than husky would have normal stools then softer stools off and on. The husky continued with diarrhea. I called manufacturers of Iverhart max and reported what was going on. They said no recalls and no reports etc. (Several months prior it upset their stomachs…lasted less than one day and pepto cleared up…next month no issues at all) I called my vet…he was out of office…had to see a new vet with my husky. She gave probiotics (Proviable) as she said I was doing a good job with hydration etc. Those didn’t help at all. I took in a stool sample to check for parasites and requested giardia also.(They all 3 had it…husky worse…yeaaaaars ago). Fecal was negative for all. They gave metronidazole. My other two were having loose stools off and on…called my vet who was back to office. He was booked…asked many questions ab dogs and other vet visit. He said probably not Iverhart…can’t be sure…could have been food etc.Prescribed metronidazole for other 2 as well. All was going pretty well…I continued chicken and rice..then slowly(when stools were normal) introduced Diamond Naturals(took 4health back in case food was issue). Went ok other than they weren’t crazy about the food after the first few days. Stools remained pretty firm. Due to lack of wanting to eat much(yet stools etc being good after off metro) I tried some of the 4health canned puppy food(which they have had before and done well on). They all had loose stools after. :( Now just back to the kibble and soft stool still continues off and on with 2 of 3 dogs, my smallest dog and the husky. I have started adding small amounts of kefir to give some probiotics in case that is the issue. It is now to the point where my smallest is no longer really wanting to eat the DN kibble(sighs and starts to make chicken and rice again lol). She will eat other stuff(small piece of cheese with pepto and before she wolfed down the 4health) so it is definitely the food that is keeping her from eating much. (Have tried several things..hot water on it which used to work etc) Thinking I should just get a new food…and try after going back to chicken and rice for a bit. Ugh. :( :( Sorry for the long story(if you made it through the saga lol) but that is where I am at in the search….stressed lol.

  • Crazy4cats

    I did once and one of my dogs threw up! I’m not sure if I got a little overzealous and put too much in or if it was even because of the kefir. I may try again and start with a lot less to see if that is what even caused it. Of course it makes me a little nervous. He hasn’t really thrown up much before unless he’s eaten a glove or sock! Luckily that hasn’t happened for a few years. I really like the idea of something more natural. Thanks for the recommendation.

  • Shawna

    PS — you probably know this but don’t rule out the odd foods/ingredients as possible allergen/sensitivity triggers. I have a friend whose dog reacts to green beans. Another friends allergy dog reacts to cucumbers. One of my kids reacted to cow bone but was completely fine with cow meat, liver etc. Many people on here have dogs that react to potato, peas and so on.

  • Shawna

    The others may have addressed this already but if so, I missed it. I specifically wanted to talk about protein and seniors. They actually have done newer research and determined that senior dogs actually need more protein then their younger, adult counterparts. The reason is that they are, as a general rule, less efficient at digesting.

    Some vets, who haven’t kept up on the research, are concerned that higher protein for seniors puts them at a higher risk for kidney disease. This has been proven to be a myth.

    Last but not least, they also have done research showing that overweight dogs can benefit from a high protein diet.

    Although I’m not a fan of Purina foods, I LOVE that this Purina Veterinary Diets website discusses the myth of protein and kidney disease and discusses the need for higher protein in the senior dog’s diet. https://www.purinaveterinarydiets.com/nutrition-myths-facts/senior-pets-and-protein/

    These are two research papers discussing the benefits of a high protein diet for weight loss.
    “High-Protein Low-Carbohydrate Diets Enhance Weight Loss in Dogs” http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/8/2087S.full
    “Weight Loss in Obese Dogs: Evaluation of a High-Protein, Low-Carbohydrate Diet” http://jn.nutrition.org/content/132/6/1685S.full

    Use the guidelines on amounts to feed as a guideline only. After starting an amount check to see if the pup seems to be gaining, losing or maintaining and then adjust amounts fed accordingly until you find the right amount. Guidelines can be right on for one but way off for another. I have two Pomeranians, both spayed, both seniors and both 5 pounds. One eats (I feed raw) 3 ounces a day (plus treats for both dogs) while the other only gets 1.8 ounces a day or she starts to gain weight. I use a scale to weigh the raw portion of every meal my dogs eat (I have six of my own dogs and I foster).

    I agree with the others to pick a cost effective, higher quality food and then add good quality toppers to increase the overall nutrition of the diet.

  • Crazy4dogs

    We will be hunkering down and trying to make it through -50° wind chill temps & digging paths through the snow. :(

  • Crazy4dogs

    Good advice C4C! Have you ever tried Kefir for your dogs?

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, I have them on probiotics fairly regularly. I’ve tried several. Right now I feed them vetri science probiotic chews. I like to switch them up now and then. I usually only give about half of the recommended dosage as their stomachs are finally getting much better. I also add frozen tripe to their meals three times per week. It’s VERY stinky and they love it!

    Are your dogs having intermittent diarrhea? If yes, have they been tested specifically for giardia? Sometimes it can be hard to detect and hard to get rid of.

    I wouldn’t worry a bunch about rotating foods until your dogs’ bellies are healed.

  • Bobby dog

    You’re welcome. I wouldn’t worry so much about the kibble even if they don’t really like it. I would want to feed the same kibble as well so I could do a slow transition to something new.

    You could try adding a low sodium broth to their kibble. Maybe try letting the kibble soak up the broth before feeding to see if that gets them more excited at meal time. Just check out your grocery stores selection if you think it’s worth a try. I might even try adding some rice, chicken, or both to their kibble for a little while; might help avoid upset stomachs if that is what they did well on. Reduce the kibble if you decide to add rice or chicken to avoid extra calories for the ones that don’t need it.

    I feed all the Pure Balance stews (adult & puppy), he seems to like them all the same. I feed 4H Turkey & SP stew, Beef & Veg stew, and the Chic & Rice puppy and senior pate’s. Puppy recipes usually have more calories and fat so they might be a good choice for your underweight dog. These are my budget foods. I have many other canned foods in my rotation. If you would like other suggestions I would be happy to share more brands with you.

    I have found sometimes probiotics work, sometimes I see no effect. They work wonderful for Bobby, but he does not need them all the time. I give one of my cats with terrible skin problems probiotics. When I don’t he really falls apart within a week or two, but he does not seem to benefit from daily doses, 3x/wk does him well. My other cat did not benefit from them at all. I use them when I give antibiotics too. Here’s some info on digestive issues:

    I recently downloaded a book by Susan Lauten, PhD with homemade meal and treat recipes. The recipes are for adult maintenance and are balanced to both AAFCO requirements and NRC recommendations. There are grain and grain free recipes to choose from. They call for foods you can find at your grocery store and human supplements. She specifically lists the brands, amount of each supplement, and provides sources for each in her book. I buy some of the brands listed for myself, you can find them easily on the Internet. Haven’t made any of the recipes yet, but plan to. If interested in checking it out:

    Good luck and just reply if you want anymore canned foods to check out!

  • Crazy4cats

    When I’m transitioning to a new kibble, I often use Perfect From made by The Honest Kitchen. It seems to be very helpful with the process. Plain canned pumpkin just doesn’t seem to do it for my two. Some fancy feed stores and pet boutiques have it in stock. Or, I usually just order it from Amazon.com or chewy.com. Hope this helps.

  • bmetz

    Ok, I sure will! :) Yeah, I just at least want to find one and then I will look for another also… always good to have the variety.. and in case something happens where the food isn’t available(out of stock/shortage, recall(heaven forbid lol), etc). Thanks for the tip. How often do you rotate your foods? How do you keep them from getting upset stomachs? Do you have them on probiotics regularly? Thanks! :)

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, please, let me know if you get some more info! Thanks. Also, remember you don’t necessarily have to find one good food. You can switch between a couple of different ones for even healthier pups. Best of luck :)

  • bmetz

    Hi Bobby dog! You are awesome! :)
    Thank you so much for the food ideas!

    Yeah we are walking more and I am trying to figure out what food works best for him. None of them are really fans of the Diamond Naturals.

    That would be great if I can get them to send me some samples. Trying out new dog foods gets expensive!

    I give her boiled chicken regularly and give her 4health canned off and on as well. Which 4health do you use? Which Pure Balance does your dog like the most? My problem is they had some sort of issue recently and all 3 dogs(2 intermittently/1 constant) had diarrhea. I tried probiotics from the vet and those did nothing to resolve the issue. I ended up having to put all 3 on metronidazole(antibiotic) to resolve it. All fecals were negative for parasites etc. They ate chicken and rice for several weeks as it was all they could handle. I then slowly transitioned to Diamond Naturals. They were doing ok on it(once they came to the sad realization that they can’t ALWAYS eat just chicken and rice haha)..then they weren’t wanting to eat as much.. and I tried a bit of canned 4health puppy food(underweight one had more as she needs to gain) mixed in and they all had upset stomachs again. Trying to get some probiotics in them to see if that helps since the antibiotics get rid of all good bacteria too.They are all almost regular again. Bad part is.. in the mean time..I am almost out of the Diamond Naturals and will need more to mix with the new food..and want to wait until they are all regular before switching(to make sure new food isn’t the cause of upset tummy etc) to the new food. They don’t really care for the DN food though so I dread buying more. :( Oh the dilemma. Ugh!

    Awesome, thank you for the ideas to try! I have used some 4health(turkey and sweet potato, puppy, chicken and vegetables).. and was thinking about the Pure Balance.. have not seen the Variety ones(but then again, I hadn’t looked for them haha). Thanks for the tips!

    Thank you for all the links on nutrition, online shopping, Victor food, and home made dog food… You rock!

    I cannot thank you enough for all of the information, advice and help!!! I really appreciate it! You are so kind!! I am so glad I reached out and asked instead of trying to figure it out all on my own. Everyone who has responded has been great! :)

    Thanks again!!!! :)

  • bmetz

    HI Crazy4cats!
    That is funny that you mentioned Victor.. that is another one I am looking at! Forgot to include it on my original list. I would have to drive a bit to get it from a store.. but if they like it and it agrees with them then I am all for it. Still looking at Nutrisource and a few others from Bobbydog also. Yeah, I hear you. I hate how there are no guidelines.. and with others…lax ones. Yep, picture and advertising have no sway over me lol. I am contacting some of them to see if I can find out about the digestibility/biological value. If I hear back.. I can post if you would like. :) Thank you for your advice!!! I appreciate it!!

  • Crazy4dogs

    I knew you could do it! :)

  • Bobby dog

    Hi bmetz:
    Take a look at these brands; these are comparable calorie wise and price range to Diamond. Each has a senior/weight management recipe along with regular recipes. Victor (C4c’s recommendation), Eagle Pack, Precise, Nutrisource, Exclusive, and Fromm. I also feed Annamaet, Nature’s Variety Instinct (C4d’s recommendation), and Wellness weight management recipes. These all cost a little more than Diamond.

    Try contacting companies for samples of food to try.

    When I choose a food I don’t look at what the food is being marketed for senior, puppy, adult etc. My dog is an adult so one thing I look at is the guaranteed analysis.

    My dog has a tendency to gain weight when it’s hot outside, he does not like the heat. During his inactive periods I look for foods that are low in fat. He maintains weight well on foods with either equal calories coming from protein and fat or more calories from protein than fat with below average carbs. Senior and weight loss foods usually fall in these categories. Can’t stress enough that eliminating excess calories and exercise is key to losing and/or maintaining a healthy weight.

    If your one dog is underweight look into adding fresh meat or canned food to his meals. You might also have to choose a different more calorie dense kibble for this guy to help with weight gain or even maintain his ideal weight. I feed a few Tractor Supply canned foods; very budget friendly. Other budget friendly canned foods are Wal-Mart’s Pure Balance stews and Costco’s Nature’s Domain if you have a membership. Another brand you can find at Wal-Mart that costs a little more is Variety stew’s. All of these are DFA rated 4-5 stars. I don’t feed Tractor Supply’s grain free, Variety pates’, or Wal-Marts 95% canned foods due to their high fat content. My guess is for the price point of these foods the high fat content is probably a result of using fatty trimmings.

    Here’s a download I use as a guide to adding fresh foods to kibble. It’s $2.95 and well worth the price IMO:

    Here is a good explanation for pet food digestibility that our friend C4d posted on another thread:

    I frequently order from Petco.com, PetSmart.com, Chewy.com (there are links to Chewy on each review page), and Petflow.com. I have always received fast delivery and excellent customer service from them. Each offer free shipping on orders that reach a certain amount, usually around $45. If you sign up for Petco and PetSmart’s e-mail newsletters you will find they run free shipping promos with no minimum purchase every few months. Sign up for Petflow newsletters as well, they have good sales too.

    If you are interested in Victor and are unable to locate a store near you check out this on-line store. They also sell samples of Victor:

    They also offer coupons for Victor:

    If you would like to look further into homemade food, here’s a product I use to make some homemade meals a few times a week, Balance IT Carnivore Blend vitamin supplement. My dog is a real fan of one really simple recipe I make that just uses ground beef, fish, oil, and the supplement. The site offers free recipes of which you choose the ingredients using their Auto Balancer recipe generator. After you make your selections recipes are generated with different profiles listing the amount of each food and the amount of supplement to use. Good luck!

  • Bobby dog

    Yes, I was referring to NS being a fairly simple recipe IMO; I like that and Bobby does well on their recipes.

  • Crazy4dogs

    No problem. I think the whole point of this site is to learn. It’s certainly made me do even more research than I had done prior to this. :)

  • Pitlove

    oh ok i understand what you’re saying. Sorry.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Here’s a link to the Nutrisource Heartland Select. It has bison listed first, followed by chicken and chicken meal.


    The Lamb meal has Salmon. If dogs have issues with different proteins, these will not work:


    That’s what I mean by mixed protein sources. I have dogs with allergies to various proteins, so I tend to choose single protein sources. If someone develops an allergy, I move to a different protein to see if that solves the problem. Believe it or not, 90% of the time it solves the allergic reactions.

  • Pitlove

    Was the first part of your comment talking about NutriSource? I’m confused. It doesn’t seem like it has random extra ingredients that are useless or that the label would take an hour to read.

  • Pitlove

    I’m not entirely sure what you mean by mixed protein sources? Unless you’re talking about what Orijen does with their wide array of proteins in one food.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi bmetz-
    Everyone is giving you great advice. Just wanted to let you know that I started feeding my two lab mix dogs Victor Healthy Weight/Senior formula. They are only four, but I liked the fact that it has a little less fat and calories than some without lowering the protein much. I always add toppers to their meals which can often be a little high in fat. So, I try to balance that out a bit. Plus, they got a little thick this summer due to the hot weather. The problem with senior or weight management food is that there are no AAFCO guidelines for either and its up the different dog food companies to decide how to market it. Just pay more attention to the ingredient and guaranteed analysts panels than the picture and/or the advertising on the bag. I’m trying to figure out how to know the digestability of the foods too! Good luck. I’m sure BDog will have some good suggestions as well.

  • Crazy4dogs

    I don’t personally use it in my rotation. It’s a decent food, but the recalls were a problem for a lot of people.

  • Bobby dog

    I will be sure to brag about it in January to make you jealous. At that time he is in heaven, forget about, he’s bouncing off the walls ready to go anywhere and do anything outside.

  • Crazy4dogs

    I know you can do it! :)

    Haha! I’m not jealous yet as I still have time before the crazy cold starts! Save this discussion link for January, then I’ll be jealous! 😉

  • Bobby dog

    I hope I can find that “wonderful” list. I do love a good link for sure!! lol I am digging through my files today to see what I can find for bmetz.
    Anyway, I just want to rub it in that I am going into Bobby’s active cold weather season!! Don’t have to pay attention to those calories so much!

  • bmetz

    Thank you!! :)

  • Bobby dog

    Give any pet food company a call and ask about the digestibility of their foods. They should have that info, if they don’t I would reevaluate feeding the food. The higher the number the better. Some companies might have that info on their sites. Here’s a quick read to get you started. I also suggest taking the time to read the references at the end of the article:


  • Bobby dog

    Hi pitlove:
    I prefer foods that I don’t have to spend an hour reading the label and the company is willing to answer questions. I find my zoo does better on simpler recipes. If I want an extra 50 ingredients added to their food I will add them myself so they will be fresh with all the benefits. I don’t need to pay extra for something that is so far down the ingredients list it most likely is so minute in amount it probably has no real benefits, JMO.
    Proteinated is reportedly a better delivery system for animals to absorb minerals. C4d is correct, lower quality pet foods normally do not use proteinated minerals. I do look for this in the kibble I feed.

  • bmetz

    I agree Bobby dog. How do you find out how digestible it is etc? I know with minerals etc it is chelated but not sure how to tell for the protein really. Thanks!

  • bmetz

    Hi Crazy4dogs.

    Yeah I agree about moisture. Looking at some canned varieties also. I have previously used 4health canned.

    Yes unfortunately lol. Yeah and I would be ok with that if I need to have different food for her. Thought about some of the high energy/active/sport dog foods bc she is pretty active. She runs circles around my Husky. Lol.

    That is my problem exactly….I want to make sure it is what they need annnnd easy to digest as they are all older now. I don’t want to do any of them a disservice by not giving them what they need. I have thought of making my own food many times as it would save me a lot of worry and be good for them…but I worry about getting it just right nutritionally etc.

    Thank you for the food suggestions! I saw Pure Balance at walmart the other day and wondered about it. Yes I completely agree about the dog food calculator.

    Yeah I wish I was just paranoid about being underweight lol. She needs to gain at least a few pounds.The vet agrees but it is just a few pounds off from what she should be. Her mom was the same way when younger…they are always running and active when outside.

    Thank you for all of your help and suggestions. You are awesome! :)

    Haha yeah I do that with the green beans too! He likes them…and cooked carrots. He won’t eat raw ones…my husky however loves the crunch of the uncooked carrots. He also likes watermelon(no seeds of course), bananas, etc etc. He is my eat anything one…you’d think he would be the heavy one lol.

    Thanks again for all the help! I appreciate it! :)

  • Bobby dog

    What’s important for senior dogs is the digestibility of the protein not just the amount of protein. You can up the protein all you want, but if it is not quality and easily digested it’s all for naught.

  • bmetz

    Would you guys use Taste of the Wild due to Diamond? Just wondering what your thoughts are on that. I saw Pure Balance the other day at walmart but haven’t looked into it yet.

  • bmetz

    I agree that the majority of them don’t know much about nutrition..they say use Hills for everything so I don’t go off of that too much. Yeah I know I will have to work with each of their portions etc. The underweight one gets extra food/different stuff than the other two. Just was trying to see if any senior formulas were actually worth it..or find a new base food to look at formulas from that are good quality foods. Thank you for your reply!

  • bmetz

    The sad thing is..I have heard it from several vets. The majority of them know basically nothing about nutrition which frustrates me. Quit suggesting Hills etc for every animal alive… Thanks for the reply.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi Pitlove,

    I think NutriSource is a good food and have used it occaisonally, but not often because of the mixed protein sources. I’m not sure what the rep was saying, but proteinate is a form of chelate. Most of the better foods contain proteinates. Orijen, Earthborn, Natures Variety, Pure Balance and Taste of the Wild use proteinates.


  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi bmetz,

    I have no doubt that Bobby dog will have a wonderful link or list for you to look at! :)

    When feeding older dogs (or any dog), one thing you might consider is adding more moisture to their diet by giving them some canned or fresh food daily. The moisture is really the key to keeping the body flushing out unwanted toxins effectively and properly hydrated.

    It sounds like you have 3 dogs with varying caloric needs. You could go with one food and adjust the portions for each individual dog’s weight concerns. If you do use a low fat food, you may have to buy something different for the underweight dog.

    I don’t personally use Senior formulas since many are just too low in protein. InkedMarie is correct, older dogs need more protein, but you want to use a quality protein that is easily digestible. I tend to use Nature’s Variety Healthy weight in the winter since the cold weather causes a serious reduction in activity, but this is not a budget friendly food. Her suggestion of Wellness Core reduced fat is a good one for the overweight dog, but you might not consider that budget friendly either. She’s correct that you need to feed the overweight one less.

    A couple of budget friendly foods are Pure Balance Grain Free @ Walmart or ProPac Ultimates. I don’t think either has a healty weight formula but neither is made by Diamond. Other posters might have some additional suggestions. A couple of suggestions I might make are using the dog food calculator on this site to make sure you’re feeding each dog the correct amount of calories. Unless they are very active I would use typical. You would probably need to add to the underweight dog. You also need to check the kcals/cup and use a graduated measuring cup for portioning.


    I’m not sure if you are familiar with this chart, but many people think they’re dogs are underweight because we are so used to seeing dogs (and people) that weigh more than they should. I know I was guilty of that with one of my dogs many years ago.


    Good Luck! :)

  • Pitlove

    Th rep who taught our seminar on NutriSource seminar was explaining a lot about the overall digestability of the food. They use like protinated minerals that are bonded to the protein and supposedly they digest even better than chelated minerals. Idk, I felt like I was back in college biology. He was very informative. If my dog ever stops liking Fromm or stops doing well on it, I would definitely go to NutriSource next. Looking at the bag it seems very underwhelming, but after hearing the rep speak I was extremely impressed with the company and the food.

  • Pitlove

    your vet has some outdated info. senior dogs have an increased need for protein because they don’t metabolize it as well as they age. this can even be confirmed by the nutritionists who work for Purina!

  • InkedMarie

    Senior dogs need more protein, not less. No offense to your vet but unless they’re a holistic vet or nutritionist, they don’t have the knowledge about nutrition that you may think they have. You have dogs with different needs; you won’t be able to feed them one food. For the one who needs to lose weight, you could feed him a food with lower fat (I’ve used Wellness Core reduced fat with success; I also like Annamaet Lean) or feed him less of the food for the dog who needs to maintain. I cant help with the dog who needs to gain.

  • bmetz

    Hi Crazy4dogs!
    I am looking for a food that is good quality, affordable food that ideally all 3 of mine like. I debated not using a senior formula(vet suggested I should transition them to senior now) due to senior foods usually having reduced protein etc. There is some controversy about using high protein with older dogs…many say it is fine…I have had several vets tell me reduced is better. A lot of them also tout Hills as a great food though too so I take it with a grain of salt lol. I have one dog who needs to lose weight, one to maintain, and one needs to gain. I may not be sold on senior only quite yet…but we will see.They are all still fairly active. I want a food without a ton of protein/grain sources etc as I want to(more easily) be able to determine any food allergens if any issues come about. My cat has issues with certain ingredients(what fun it is figuring those out! Ha…not lol) so I know what that can be like. Thanks for the reply! :)

  • bmetz

    Sorry, I was thinking of Nutro being made by Mars.

  • bmetz

    Hi Bobby dog. Sorry, I was thinking of Nutro being made by Mars.

    I am probably going to give nutrisource a try. It is one I have been looking at. Hoping all the dogs like it! Thank you for all the info and your thoughts! Great to know about how much to feed. I have one dog who needs to lose some weight…one who needs to stay the same…and one who needs to gain lol. Thanks again!

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi bmetz!
    Bobby Dog had some good questions for you. I guess you could call most (maybe all) of my personal dogs senior since I’m not sure of the age of my male Lab, but the others are 9 and 11. I don’t feed senior formulas, but my dogs are still fairly active and brisk walking 1-2 miles daily. So what are you looking for in a senior food and why?

  • Pitlove

    Hi- Just wanted to point out that NutriSource is not made by Mars. It’s made by Tuffy Pet Foods which is managed under KLN Family Foods. I literally just has a seminar on this food because we just brought it into my work. Not sure where you heard it was made by Mars, but that is incorrect information.

  • Bobby dog

    Hi bmetz:
    I have fed several Nutrisource recipes and like them. I plan on trying the Sr. at some point. I have a bag of Nutrisource in my stash right now. It is not made by Mars. The parent company is Tuffy and they own their own manufacturing facility. Is this a food you would consider? You can find more info about the company here:

  • bmetz

    Hi Bobby dog!
    Thanks for the reply! I am looking for a senior recipe as my 3 dogs are all 8 years or older now. No specific meat protein that they have issues with(knock on wood). The bag I bought is 35 pounds and cost $33.99. I am not opposed to paying more(within reason) especially if I can find a food they all love.

    Ahh I see. I understand…they are all different and sometimes hard to figure out what they need. Glad you know what works for him. :)

    Yeah that is great about the shipping! I know some offer promotions like that off and on…sometimes always. I just have no more ideas of what to try haha. Other than Nutrisource…which mars makes…so not sure. Thanks again! :)

  • Bobby dog

    Hi bmetz:
    I have some questions for you. Is there a reason you are looking for a senior food? Are you looking for a specific meat protein? How much are you paying for the Diamond senior and what size bag?

    I have fed several senior formulas to my dog who is six, not considered a senior yet, but have done so because the recipes had a certain fat percentage he does well on. Depending on what you are looking for in a kibble I might have some brands you could look into.

    There are several on-line retailers that offer free shipping on orders if you spend between $35-49 if that is something you could swing in a single purchase.

  • bmetz

    Hi all. I have been trying to find a great high quality budget friendly senior food(hate how most senior foods are junk!) for my three dogs. They range in weight from 25 lbs to 80lbs. I am trying a bag of this kind of senior food(don’t love the previous Diamond recall history etc) but it is one that has decent ingredients, affordable and an actual store carries it close to me. (Don’t mind ordering online if can get free shipping etc-just usually outrageous since heavier shipment). This food they seemed to think was ok to start with.. and now I have to wet it with water or add canned food to get them to eat. I think it upsets their stomachs for some reason-stools have been ok but just not loving eating it/act like they are gassy feeling. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have looked at several options that have good ratings on here… TOTW(made by Diamond and they don’t have a specific senior formula), Nutrisource Senior, Fromm(their senior version has too many protein sources that would make determining an allergen difficult), The Honest Kitchen(Halcyon, Zeal, and Force are on one of the best foods list and are listed for seniors on the HK website). I am kind of at a loss. I need something that is going to be good for them.. but that they also enjoy eating. Thank you in advance for any and all suggestions/ideas! I read the comments many times when researching the food.. and have seen a lot of people respond with great advice and suggestions so I thought I would reach out. Sorry for the long post!

  • Crazy4cats
  • Sega$Corp.CEO

    Does anyone know the ash content for any of the formulas?

  • Crazy4dogs

    Diamond recalled the food after they were already issues warning letters from the FDA.



    Here’s a short compliation from another website about the recalls:


    This isn’t about recalling to play it safe, this is about getting warning letters about noncompliance from the FDA and finally recalling the food after numerous warnings. Diamond could actually be a good brand if it would comply with the safety issues that have resulted in FDA warning letters.

    If you choose to feed your dogs food from a company that has had violations and recall issues, that’s great. I choose to feed my dogs food from family companies that haven’t had these issues.

  • theBCnut

    That’s right!

  • LabsRawesome

    Yes. They are a troll.

  • LabsRawesome

    Bear’s Labs

  • LabsRawesome


  • sharron

    oops – i’m truly sorry – i’ll butt out from now on

  • Dori

    Yep! Usually I just ignore those people and, truthfully, I’m not here as often as I once was but when I read something so ludicrous and stupid the NYC/NJ girl in me must say something. Not always, just sometimes. This one was something I just could not ignore. I will, of course, ignore any comebacks from the troll. Just wanted to get my thoughts out there and the thoughts that I know most of us were feeling and saying in our minds.

  • LabsRawesome

    sharron, did you even read this thread? Or are you simply agreeing with Bear’s Labs without even having all the information? If you had read the thread, you would’ve understood that I was responding to a post by

    Darin Clements in which he made this statement

    “Guess you feel silly now, knowing there is no such thing as a gluten allergy”…
    So you’re basically agreeing with him. You believe that his post is correct?

  • LabsRawesome

    Bear’s Labs, I do not think I’m smarter than everyone else. I was simply responding to Darin Clements post. He stated ”

    Guess you feel silly now, knowing there is no such thing as a gluten allergy” He was the one that was condescending in his opinions. Obviously he was wrong, gluten allergy is a very real thing.

  • theBCnut

    You did!

  • Dori

    I just felt the need to speak up.

  • theBCnut

    Thanks, Dori! I was just going to ignore the tr011. It’s just a Diamond fan.

  • Dori

    Actually theBCnut should be. We certainly are and are thankful for her input and her willingness to share the knowledge she has amassed through research and experience whether in her past professional life and real life experiences for many years. We have learned quite a bit from theBCnut.

  • sharron

    some of them, not all, have a “my way or the highway” attitude

  • Bear’s Labs

    Since your post, hopefully your Lab has turned into a big beautiful animal! I feed all nine of my Labs the Chicken and Rice Natural and all puppies the large breed natural. I have done this for years and they do great,

  • Bear’s Labs

    Recalls say “we have an issue and we are going to fix it”. What’s wrong with that”

  • Bear’s Labs

    I just started posting and reading this thread, and it seems to me some folk like you feel you have to be smarter than everyone else. And you have to be condescending in your opinions. I thought this site was for learning and sharing.

  • Bear’s Labs

    Thanks for the testimony to Diamond’s goodness. You and I have long discovered it’s benefits and only hope others do too.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Is there a particular reason for making this comment?

  • Bear’s Labs

    You sound SO smart. You must be amazed with yourself.

  • Bear’s Labs

    I feed all (nine) of my Labs from puppies to 11.5 year old Diamond. The two older ones love the Diamond Senior, according to our trusted vet, they are at a great weight and beautiful coat. Aren’t some people still allergic to penicillin?

  • Pitlove

    Btw, the FDA has no say in whether or not a dog food company recalls their food. Its the company that chooses to recall it or not. I agree that its better that Diamond recalls the food instead of pretending nothing is wrong, but if you read the FDA’s report on their SC plant you’d be pretty disgusted.

  • Bear’s Labs

    I not only feed my puppies Diamond, but all (nine) of my grown Labs the Diamond Natural Chicken and Rice, They two have been on it for years and are doing great according to our vet. I work in the auto parts business and every day there is a recall on something. Where humans are involved we’ll see mistakes, and unfortunately where suppliers are involved we see shortcomings. At least Diamond voluntarily recalls their product without a government mandate.

  • Bear’s Labs

    I believe that the small breed food would work for you as well as the large does for me in the big Labs. Of course though, I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night!

  • ML McCorkle

    Tried Diamond Natural Senior for the first time. Second day my 85 pound Lab started involuntarily urinating in the house and looking confused. Took her to the vet, no discernible problems. Took her off food and she was better. Thought it might be an allergy. Gave the food to my sister for her dog. Exact same problem. I will NEVER buy this brand again.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/sylerbo Sylvia

    I just got this notification after 5 months…don’t know how I could have missed it. THANK YOU, I have since not given Diamond to them. I wanted to believe the best because we had a bag we just bought. But too risky. I take it your dog has issues? What do you mean about rotating food? They should be eating a variety of foods? I have yet to find something that works for these poor little guys. I have them on Taste of the wild, no grain, no corn, etc…so we’ll see. Had them on pro plan salmon..found out it’s no good either. Just want these guys to be at peace, no itching, no misery. Thanks for your comment.

  • Sarah

    I’ve had my weimaraner on diamond naturals since her near fatal allergic reaction to hills science diet, 4 years ago. She does great on it and I don’t see myself ever using any other food. My two, 2 year old Great Danes do great on it too and I love the price, since we go through one 40lb bag per week 😉 my dogs stay fit and lean (with the exception of my 9.5 year old weim, who is slightly overweight due to her age and not getting around as well) their coats are always soft and shining, and their bm’s are always healthy. This is a great food and the rescue I work with also feeds this to all of our rescue dogs. I have seen, first hand, spectacular changes in these dogs regarding their heath issues upon being rescued. Skin issues completely reversed, loose bm’s totally resolved, emaciation turned around at rapid rates…it truly is amazing to see how much a good diet can do for a dog at their worst. Keep it up Diamond!

  • Pitlove

    Glad your dogs are doing well on Diamond. Make sure you sign up for emails alerts for recalls from DFA though, only for the reason that Diamond is notorious for them.

  • BC

    I switched my cats to Diamond so decided to try with dogs. They had been eating Merrick, but to be quite honest, never cleaned their plate. I have switched to small breed naturals and rotate between chicken & lamb formula. I also mix it with 1/2 of Diamond canned split betw/ the 3(rotating betw/ chicken, Lamb & Beef). I use 3/4 dry at each feeding.
    Bowls are clean. BMs are smaller & do not smell. Is it the beet pulp that is helping them to eat it. I know that must be sweet.

    Great food without the high price.

    I have also seen questions about how this food looks in the bag. I have ordered mine from Chewy & have had no problems. Plus free shipping!

  • Loretta Rawlins

    The beef one gives my dog the runs. My dogs all do good on the lamb.

  • Iz Zoo

    Hi I was wondering if anyone can answer why my dog suddenly has the runs. I started giving diamond naturals chicken to my 1 year old doberman and she loved it. She was fine for 2 weeks but after that she got the runs bad. Took a stool sample to the vet and it was negative. Wondering if I should try lamb or a different product altogether. Anyone else run in to this problem? Thanks for the help

  • Azaleafox

    my boxer puppy needed this. He has a very fast metabolism and on top of that he is very active. It was already hard because he is in his lanky stage and all we saw was a muscular skeleton running for a frisbee lol. This food is helping out a lot and the ingredients aren’t bad especially for the price.

  • Justin Davis

    I don’t want to say for sure but what you’re describing sounds like the food got wet. Maybe your dog was eating mildew and mold covered food. That would explain why some bags were fine too. Just a thought.

  • Sara

    Diamond naturals extreme athlete is the perfect food for a high energy dog! It helps keep them at a healthy weight now matter how active they are!
    I have lab mix and was getting another brand of food but would constantly be losing weight because of how active she was. I switched her to this food and I saw her gaining weight and keeping it within a week!
    I HIGHLY recommend this dog food!!!!

  • kkh

    aaawww looks like poor little danny boy couldnt take everyone calling him out for being a loser and removed his comments. what a d.bag.

  • Danny Boy

    I will gladly give you that. Having said that I apologize to you.

  • Danny Boy

    No your mom was an adequate source of love. I highly doubt you have any knowledge about the inner workings of a persons mind other than what you have seen on daytime tv. But thanks for rolling off your dad long enough to say hi :)

  • carlitos2k2

    I had to try all formulas Diamond makes before settling on Beef and Rice Formula. Extreme Athlete he loved, but made his stools runny and excessive belching. Same with Chicken and Rice, and Lamb and Rice. The last two he didn’t really like, but only ate when very hungry. Finally tried Beef and Rice before completely discarding the Diamond label as a whole and this one did the trick. The Beef and Rice formula was both enjoyable for my GSD as well as making his bowel movements more solid and less gas and belching.

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, unfortunately, I used to refer to it a lot! Too bad the author of the site is not able to write anymore. I believe the recommendations will still be valuable for some time to come.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Just a thought, and it might not help, but some of the posters have had problems with Diamond products (Taste of the Wild is also a Diamond product). I’ve listed a few to a poster below that could possibly work and are in the same price range as Diamon Naturals. They are Fromm Gold, Propac Ultimates, Whole Earth Farms and Victor. Many people have seemed to like these. Good Luck!

  • Crazy4dogs

    I like the site link you included! Some very good info! :)

  • Jojo

    thank you so much that is great information

  • Jojo

    we used to do nutra, and then we switched to the wild.. something like that, but we moved and that pet store is not close to us anymore, we tried blue buffalo once they did not care for it. I was on amazon, and saw this food and thought my dogs might like it… I drove to the pet store by my old house today and got the Wild dog food.. and will see if I can buy online.. but I have removed this food.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Poor pups. What were you feeding them before?

  • Crazy4cats

    Bummer! Here is a link to a site that has been helpful to me when I’m trying to get my pups tummies better.
    Hope this helps.

  • Jojo

    I just bought a bag and my dogs have been on it for about a week and both dogs have ben sick, throwing up, diarrhea and gagging.. it has been horrible, one seems not as sick as the other but still both dogs? has to be the food. I will look up the chicken rice and pumpkin thing and try that and will be removing this food.. both my dogs are also 11.

  • webhole

    Patty Vaughn is her name.

    20 years ago she was a vet tech

  • kkh

    murphy loves diamond naturals, its highly rated, and it has never made him sick. victor costs more and is hard to find.

  • kkh

    learn to read.

  • kkh

    it isnt necessary to have “experience in the pet food industry” in order to find out about a dog food recall. however, a persons comment history IS relevant when considering whether or not to blow off said commentor. you sound like a sad little person who makes himself feel better by insulting strangers on the internet.

    aww poor danny boy. whats wrong, buddy? did your mommy withhold her love?

  • kkh

    dont know. my dog loves it, and hes usually a picky eater. doesnt like fish and wouldnt eat any of the blue buffalo flavors we tried. we even have been able to put our cats food down on the floor next to the dogs because murphy wont eat it. but he loves his diamond lamb and rice! maybe try a different flavor? i know it can be an expensive experiment!

  • cephalo

    We tried this brand, but my dog doesn’t like it. Great quality on paper, but not worth much if not eaten. What does my Dog know that I don’t?

  • theBCnut

    Yes, your comment history is relevant. You have a known pattern of insulting people instead of using intelligent discussion.

    If you look at the commenting policy on this site, you will see that veterinary professionals are asked to use their real name. While I am not currently a veterinary professional, I assumed this still applied to me and I used my real name for years on this site since I was claiming my qualifications. However, I found there to be far too many people that enjoy being jerks and even one or two that were borderline or over the line stalkers, so I quit using my real name and I don’t mention my qualifications.

    But completely aside from that, canine nutrition isn’t rocket science and researching brands of dog food is even easier than that. Reading FDA reports on their inspection of the Gaston, SC Diamond plant was dry, boring, and disgusting, but not difficult. You should try it. So what qualifications do I supposedly need to have an opinion about everything I have read about this topic?

  • Danny Boy

    Must be a liberal…always looking for someone else to speak for you. Must suck to be so weak. And please find labsrawesome. Would be worth while to speak with something other than whinny losers.

  • Danny Boy

    Translation: You are not qualified.
    My comment history is not relevant to my comment to you. But allow me to state that I use this ID when dealing when those who present themselves as something they are not. You are correct when you state you do not have to post your qualifications to me. It does however just add credence to what I say. Bon appetite.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Why are you on this site? I’ve seen your discuss history. It seems your only purpose is to insult people.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Yeah, right?!?

  • DogFoodie

    I looked at that yesterday, too. Nothing but a barrage of insults and name calling.

  • aquariangt

    Smells pretty trollish to me. Where is LabsRAwesome when I need her

  • theBCnut

    I’ve looked at your commenting history and insulting everyone you reply to doesn’t make you intelligent. Try expressing yourself politely.

    Just because you don’t know my qualifications, doesn’t mean I’m not qualified to comment, it means you don’t know, and apparently there is a lot you don’t know. I’ve posted my college and work experience in the past, but I certainly don’t need to post them for your benefit.

  • Danny Boy

    You are not qualified to recommend anything.
    Sitting behind a computer getting fat eating bon bons does not an expert make. Please feel free to post your college and work experience in the pet food industry.

  • theBCnut

    All other brands do voluntary recalls too. By the time the government goes through all the processes to do a mandatory recall, a company’s reputation is completely trashed and the government is likely to completely put them out of business, so companies do voluntary recalls as soon as the FDA starts grumbling about the possibility of starting the process. Diamond has had 2 recalls in the past 5 years and 4 or 5 in the past 10. There was a HUGE multistage recall in 2012 on every dog food they make and the next year, they had a recall on cat food. The recall in 2012 was quite enlightening. Their food processing equipment was held together with duct tape, so it couldn’t be properly cleaned and they were storing unmarked kibble in open bins. Those were just 2 of the gross offenses that the FDA report remarked upon. You are welcome to trust Diamond and love their food, but they have failed to live up to my standards. Maybe a little research into the recall process would be in order.

    And just which brand am I supposed to be receiving a paycheck from? I feed and recommend about 10 different brands. Whichever one of them is supposed to be my employer must be mad as a wet hen. It is amazing how low Diamond will stoop and how uneducated their shills are.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Oh, poor baby! Unfortunately, that’s what happens when dogs are fed the same exact food for years and many, including myself rotate and recommend rotation of our foods.
    Diamond has had production problems in the past. You might try using Fromm Gold, Propac Ultimates, Whole Earth Farms or Victor. They are in a similar price range to Diamond Naturals. Fromm Four Star Nutritionals, Earthborn Holistic & Merrick are the upgrade versions. All are family companies with good records.

  • Jess

    My 11 year old lab was on Nutro Natural Choice large breed for the majority of his life. We loved it. Then they changed the formula, and my dog became lethargic, dropped huge clumps of fur, and was itching for the first time in his very spoiled life. That began my current journey looking for a new food. We have been trying Diamond Naturals large breed but have noticed quality control issues. The first bag was fine and second big bag seemed fine. We go through a big bag about every 5 weeks. Then the kibble in the third bag looked different, lighter in color and kind of swollen. I dismissed it until my dog started throwing up in the house two or three times a day. Then the diarrhea started. It was very runny, and he just couldn’t hold it. It was everywhere. We rushed to the vet for a full work up. They ran all sorts of tests but found nothing. I took him off dog food and did the cooked chicken, rice, and pumpkin thing. Instantly better. I took the food back to the store where a very knowledgable clerk allowed me to return it, saying it was probably just a rare bad bag. I exchanged it for a bag of the same stuff with a different production code; after all, the first two bags were great. Everything seemed ok. Then I bought another bag. It was ok too. Now another bag with swollen, light colored kibble and after three or four days another round of a rumbling tummy, loose stools, hacking and gagging. I am done with Diamond. I think they can make a good food, but I believe it’s a crapshoot basically. It’s a gamble with each bag. Will I get the good stuff, or this weird, swollen, light colored stuff that makes him sick? I can’t take the risk with such an old, dear dog. I think the good reviews are legit. I also think the bad ones are legit. It all depends on whether you are lucky enough to get a good bag versus a bad one. I would say feed this only if you are willing to take the monthly gamble as you open each new bag and spend the first several days of each new bag constantly watching and waiting for the signs of another bad bag.

  • guitarest

    Same company, same food different kibble shapes.

  • guitarest

    We are a rescue, and train rescue dogs to become service animals for wounded warriors and work w the VA, USA, USN, and USAF amd are a 501c3. We have used Diamond since 2010 and every dog loves it, shiney coats, bright eyes and love to learn. We work with all breeds, when accepted most are malnourished when finished most never knew the how bad the dog originally looked compared to now. Finally with only five dollars difference between Diamond and crap food why buy anything else?

  • guitarest

    There has been only one recall in the last five years and Diamond did it to themselves and was not directed by the Feds unlike other brands. I was notified by a phone call from my local feed store before it went national and press picked it up. They were concerned about Samonila in the kibble. So unsure what make believe recall or company you speak off because its not Diamond. Its amazing how low the brands will stoop and pay people to intentally post crap here.

  • Kim

    I have had 2 danes on it for years & have not had a problem. When I rescued my dane at the at of 4 months I put him on the lamb & rice alone with my mastiff, smaller dog, as well as my german shepherd. All have done well. I subscribe to a service that sends me the recalls & haven’t seen Diamond in there yet.

  • Debbie Serpico

    My Dane has been on Diamond Naturals lamb and rice for 8yrs, never had any problems, Good luck with your new pup! :)

  • Christi Gaubatz

    I just read your post and indeed your pitbull/ chihuahua mix sounds really different. Would love to see a picture.

  • Ann Hartman

    I recently switched both my dogs (large lab mixes) to Diamond Naturals Adult Chicken and Rice. They both love it and have had no problems with it. I switched over very slowly (still had lots of old food left) to allow them to adjust and they are both doing well on the Diamond Naturals.

  • DogFoodie

    Diamond has a history of recalls, but even worse, a poor handling of those recalls. I reluctantly and infrequently include a Canidae product, which may or may not be co-packed by Diamond, in the rotation for my dog with multiple food intolerances.

    I would never feed my dog only one food, especially a Diamond product. Think about what you’d do if / when Diamond has another recall and your dog isn’t used to switching foods.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/sylerbo Sylvia

    So happy to hear you say that, my husband just bought a bag of the white fish and sweet potato, 2 of our 3 dogs have allergies. I told him I had heard many good things about Diamond as a whole, so when I read the review just before yours, I got discouraged (had been a while since reading all those other ones), but now having read yours, I’m rest assured. Thank you!

  • Sylvia Willhite

    So happy to hear you say that, my husband just bought a bag of the white fish and sweet potato, 2 of our 3 dogs have allergies. I told him I had heard many good things about Diamond as a whole, so when I read the review just before yours, I got discouraged (had been a while since reading all those other ones), but now having read yours, I’m rest assured. Thank you!

  • theBCnut

    Diamond has had a lot of quality control issues and many recalls. They don’t respond to recalls very well either, putting your dog further at risk, so I can’t recommend anything they make. NutriSource has a good small breed puppy food. And if you go over to the forum side, do a search on small breed puppy food and you will find a thread for just that.

  • Hannah Wenneman

    Would the small breed puppy food in this brand be good for a Beatle? Any suggestions?

  • CJ

    I’ve been feeding my dogs Diamond Naturals for years and never had a single problem. All 5 of my dogs are healthy and are at a healthy weight. Im very pleased with Diamond Naturals.

  • LabsRawesome

    You should buy smaller bags. 40lbs of kibble will go bad/stale before you can use that much.Fats go rancid when exposed to air/light. Pitbull/Chihuahua mix sounds adorable. Can you post a pic?

  • Holly Bluer

    100% agree!

  • Holly Bluer

    I recently switched my girl Star, a pittbull-chihuahua mix, over to Diamond Naturals and she loves it. She is only 21.5 pounds (a small dog) and has no issues eating the food. I found it at a local feed store for $25.99 for a 40lb bag, a good deal for good food

  • Dorey King

    I have 2 boys Cookie (rat terrier) & Ruckus (bandogge mastiff). They’ve been on Purina complete for 2 years but Ruckus is having some food allergies so we need to switch. They have to be on the same food bcuz they are just going to eat out of each other’s bowls anyway. So I need something that is good for small & large breed adult dogs, that’s way healthier than Purina, not super expensive & small kibble bits-Cookie has a tough time with the bigger pieces. Would Diamond Naturals be a good choice for the both of them?

  • Brandon Bray

    To anyone googling advice on the internet. Use it to gain knowledge to ask questions, but take your questions to professionals for your final decision :) You wouldn’t google symptoms of your children and listen to strangers tell you what to do would you? Isn’t that what our furry friends are, family?

    I use Diamond Natural for my Dane. Years she’s been fine. Different people have different furry friends who have different reactions. My experiences shouldn’t lead anyone to making a final decision. I consulted my vet when I got my Dane on the choices of food. Of course they always push the brand sitting on their shelves (like a family doctor will be pushing whatever pills are on the counter that day). But don’t be afraid to ask questions on other foods using the knowledge you gain from these sites.

    Find a vet :) Work with them and don’t be afraid to shop around for a good vet.

  • poohbear41176

    Diamond also makes the 4 Health brand.

  • aquariangt

    When was the dog having problems with it? She made no mention of being on beef before the lamb, so that’s just an assumption. And protein rotation is important. You don’t ever read people’s posts before blindly commenting with your 4 stock responses

  • Bob K

    Yep – Dog was having problems with it.

  • aquariangt

    Why not switch to beef? Is there a problem with protein rotation, bob?

  • ajobie

    We were trying to switch her to the beef to see if that may help with some of her anal gland issues and gas. I contacted the manufacturer and am in the process of returning the bag to amazon.

  • Bob K

    ajobie – Something does not make sense here. Diamond Natural Large Breed Puppy is a lamb and rice kibble, why the switch to a beef formula? Why not stick with another Lamb choice if it has worked out so far? Did you contact the Mfg. of the kibble? Did you return the bag?

  • ajobie

    We are currently transitioning our 9 month old from diamond large breed puppy to the diamon adult beef formula. When we first started transitioning her she was vomiting a very small amount every other night. Our vet thought maybe it was just her adjusting to the new food. Well yesterday our poor girl vomited 7 times! We took her to the emergency vet and were told to discounting use of any Diamond food from here on out.

    Our pup is now on boiled chicken and rice and has been off any Diamond food for 36 hours. She is doing remarkably better with the food out of her system. She is still very weak and tired but is slowly returning back to herself.

    This food needs to be RECALLED IMMEDIATELY!!! Too many dogs are getting so sick with the same symptoms in the same time frame. This is horrible!!!!

  • DogFoodie

    Budget friendly is a relative term, Patricia. I believe for the quality, Victor is very budget friendly. At an average price point of about $1 per pound, it’s one of the least expensive 5 star foods.

  • Dog_Obsessed

    That’s not true, wheat allergies can exist in both people and dogs, though I am not totally sure if it is from the gluten or something else. There are also gluten sensitivities, which is not a true antibody reaction, but can cause allergy symptoms.

  • Deborah Smith

    I have fed many of my dogs naturals chicken and rice they do great. The rest I feed salmon and potato 4 health, they do great.

  • Bob K

    Meg – I have fed Diamond Natural usually chicken and rice to many dogs over the last 7 years and have had no problems with the kibble. Do your research and you will find out lots of companies have recalls dog food recalls. Diamond Natural is a 4 star rated kibble that is a bargain compared to other kibbles. The Diamond midwest plant in Missouri has an excellent record. The plant in SC that provides product to the East side of the US is the plant that has had problems in the past. No need to switch to extreme athlete, since you have had great success, why change? I know many people that fees Diamond Natural or another brand they make with no issues. The company is one of the largest dog food producers in the US. If it were so bad they would be out of business long ago.

  • DogFoodie

    Do you have a budget for food and how do you plan to buy it (online or brick & mortar).

    Some foods I think are really good quality at a fair price are Wellness, Earthborn Holistics, Victor (if you can buy it locally) and Dr. Tim’s.

  • Meg Barth

    Really? I had no idea! An animal rescue told me they were two different companies when they told me about the dog food. What do you suggest?? I figured it was a great good considering it received a 4.

  • theBCnut

    Diamond and Diamond Naturals are 2 of about 15 or 20 brands that Diamond makes that are recalled every 2-4 years and have quality control issues frequently between recalls. No dogs don’t have to be extreme athletes to eat that, but they do need to have a very healthy gut with a diverse population of probiotics to withstand the bacterial contamination in the food. And since you are susceptible to the bacteria in their food, always remember to wash thoroughly after handling any dog food, but especially after handling Diamond foods.

  • DogFoodie

    Diamond and Diamond Naturals are just two of the many house brands manufactured by Diamond.

  • Meg Barth

    I’ve seen a lot of comments about the “Diamond” brand having a lot of recalls. Diamond and Diamond Naturals are two completely different brands. Also, I wanted some advice. My Boston terrier has been on the chicken and rice for months now, and she sometimes likes it, but she’s also a grazer and doesn’t eat often throughout the day. She’s always been like this. Should I switch to extreme athlete? Does a dog have to be an extreme athlete to eat this food?? I saw that it got 5/5 and what I’m feeding her now gets 4/5. Thoughts??

  • aquariangt

    if you scroll up on your mouse about 1 time you will see the dates. They are at the bottom of each review, including each time the review has been updated. The reviews also say nothing about quality of food, ingredients, or anything of that sort. It is purely a review of the ingredients and GA on the food. If you read through the review comments and the forums, you will see that many of us speak out (somewhat loudly) against Diamond for all the reasons you just mentioned

  • Carolyn

    How old is this review? Why are there no dates to go with these articles as things can drastically change at any given time. Go to Consumer Affairs and look up Diamond dog food and there are some scary recent complaints of dogs getting very sick and or dying after buying Diamond Naturals…many since they changed their packaging a few months ago. I just put my dogs on it and they both immediately got a very pale colored diarrhea. My dogs never react to food changes so I don’t think that’s the problem. After reading the nightmares..costs..losses others have gone through I am taking ZERO chances and switching to another high quality brand. And yes…they according to the company and to treating vets, the company has had a problem with salmonella.

  • Debbie

    Our local TractorSupply had the Diamond Naturals Adult Chicken and Rice on sale for $28.00 for 40lbs so we grabbed it and started our first rotation diet for both our dogs. One on Pure Balance Grain Free Salmon & Pea other Pure Balance Chicken & Rice….nether dogs seem to like this :(

  • Allyson

    Yep… They don’t wanna tell people unless we bother to ask. That crap pisses me off. Sorry bout your dogs, hope their better now.

  • DogFoodie

    The 4Health you’re feeding is also made by Diamond, the same company who makes the recalled Chicken & Rice food you were feeding previously. Just FYI.

  • Nakita

    What?!?!?! I didn’t know there was a salmonella contamination! I feel like a horrible dog owner. We just had to take our dogs to the vet because they weren’t getting better and one was bleeding from his rectum. We have now switched to 4Health Salmon and sweet potatoe.

  • Allyson

    Yes! I was feeding that same kind to my dogs because one of my dogs has allergies. Once I bought a bag of the new version it made both my dogs sick, worse for my boy with allergies, he was very sick. I called the company and they told me it was because of salmonella contamination in the food. Haven’t bought anything from the company since. It’s not worth the risk of making my dogs sick

  • Megalodon77

    Wow thanks Sandy that answered all my questions!!!

  • Gabyymary_trueno

    I started to use Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete for my Belgian Malinois with excelent results. He was with Authority grain free but they changed the pack and the recipe. I notice that the new formula make him loss too much hair and loss of appetite. I switched with the new food and no more problem until now. I recomend this product for extreme dogs.

  • http://theuglypugglyboutique.com/ sandy

    I don’t know if you’ve seen this new article yet. It is listed on the left side of the screen.


    Also, the Editor’s Choice section has a list of foods for large breed pups.

    And here’s the link to the Large and Giant Breed Puppy Nutrition topic in the regular forum.


  • Megalodon77

    I have a 10 mo old Great Dane pup that I’ve been feeding a mixture of innova (large breed adult) and blue buffalo fish. Once he adjusted to the combo he did fine, stools were good most of the time, but he does seem to always have itchy skin. Danes tend to have skin issues so I can’t necessarily pin this to the food. Today I bought a bag of diamond naturals large breed adult instead (unavailability of innova at stores nearest me) and he scarfed it down, whereas he’s usually uninterested in his innova mix. I’ve read several times to keep Great Dane puppies on adult food due to protein content- danes grow so big so quick they need much less protein than most pups & adult food typically has less protein. Does anyone have any personal experience with or knowledge of danes and optimal nutrition? Cost isn’t necesarily an issue, but he does eat about 6-8 cups a day… But of course I want highest quality premium dog food for him. Thanks!!

  • Elizabeth Darden

    Thanks! I will go with the Chicken. Seems like the best quality you can get at that price! In our neck of the woods, they carry it at Tractor Supply.

  • Elizabeth Darden

    Thanks, that’s very enlightening! Their chicken and rice formula is “all life stages.” I contacted Diamond to get the calcium and phosphorus percentages. The chicken and rice comes out to: Calcium = 3.8 g per 1000 kcal
    Ca to P ratio = 1.2 to 1

  • Bob K

    I have been feeding Diamond Natural Chicken and Rice for over 6 years to 50+ dogs and have had excellent results. A bargain for a 4 star rated kibble.

  • Bob K

    I would go with the regular food since your I suspect your dog is high energy and wants to play and exercise. I have fed both diamond natural Chicken and Rice & Lamb and Rice with great results. A bargain for a 4 star food. If your dog inhales their food and does not chew it, you can always add some soup cans to their bowl to slow them down or buy a special bowl. Menards stocks it and often has it on sale for about $27.00 for 40lbs.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Actually, I tend to feed foods that are rated for either “growth” or “all life stages”. It can be confusing, but a food rated for all life stages includes puppies (foods for growth). But a food rated for adult maintenance is not for puppies and can have a higher amount of calcium. So you can still have some benefit from a food with controlled calcium if feeding an all life stage food or puppy food (which you can feed for life). I try to keep carbohydrate content at 45% or less since dogs don’t even require it according to some sources, so I feed “moderate” protein for my foster dogs. For example, one of the foods I use is Nutrisource grain free lamb with protein at just 31% and carbs of 41%. For me, that’s moderate protein, anywhere from 27-33%. Less protein than that is just too many carbs. And I don’t want to buy a bag of carbs! As far as the breed specific supplements, there is usually not enough per serving of food to make a difference so I would give a separate supplement. The Diamond puppy lamb formula is right in the middle – moderate protein, moderate fat and 45% carbs.

  • Elizabeth Darden

    Thanks! The vet says he is finished growing and told me to switch him to adult food. I will still do the calcium calculation though. Would you think that the added glucosamine and chondroitin (and other large breed specific add-ins) are more important than the lower protein content?

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    They have less protein than the other formulas. Different large/giant breeds pups can be considered a puppy even at 2 yrs old. They have to have controlled calcium levels during puppyhood. There are two articles listed on the left side of the screen about hip dysplasia and large breed puppy food. You might check them out.

  • Elizabeth Darden

    Why do the large breed adult varieties get a half star less than the regular adult varieties? I’m about to switch my 70 pound 1 year old to adult food. Should I get large breed or regular?

  • Nakita

    Has anyone had any problems with there dogs since they added ingredient’s to the Diamond Natural’s Chicken & Rice?

  • theBCnut

    They have had a cat food recall after that. And have had further quality control issues after that. They can’t keep their act together for very long.

  • Bob K

    Jenn – Diamond Natural is a 4 star rated kibble and a bargain compared to many other kibbles.

  • Bob K

    I have been feeding Diamond Natural for over 6 years to over 50 foster dogs, with no problems, all their coats improve and poopies firm up. I too buy it at Menards. Recalls are part of the US food system in both human and pet food. Over 3000 people die each year in the US due to food borne illnesses.

  • mrmizzou

    What you are saying has some truth .But the whole industry appears to have had past problems. Almost all major and minor players have had recalls.

  • Hater & Molly’s Mom

    Diamond has a long history of recalls. They have not always handled them correctly either. That says it all. IMO they are always on borrowed time. It’s just a matter of time before another recall hits.

  • mrmizzou

    I have been feeding my 38 lb mixed breed Diamonds Extreme Athlete for about 1year. He is doing great and looking great. The food is rated 5 stars ,,but sells at Manards for less than $1.00 a Lb. I like the quality and the price.

  • mrmizzou

    Am I correct,there have been no recalls of Diamond products since May 2012 ?

  • Jenn Thomas

    We have been feeding our 10 year old, 70lb pit bull Diamond Lamb and Rice for about 5 years now. She has very sensitive skin and this is one of the affordable foods that she can tolerate. Our other 2 dogs, 5 year old husky and a 2 year old 30 lb mix also eat this with no problems. I would love to be able to feed a higher quality food to our dogs but for the price I think this is a decent food for them.

  • matthew

    I have been feeding my dogs diamond for 5 months. I have a lab, a beagle mutt, a Shepherd great byrenese mix, and a pit bull all have shed the over wieght problem and have gotten much need muscle mass. My dogs look great and have lots of energy. I love the dog food and my dogs do too.

  • DogFoodie

    Amazon would be a great way for you to give Victor a try. Funny thing is, it’s generally more expensive on the websites that sell it than it would be in a brick & mortar. In addition to Amazon, you can find Victor on Sportdogfood.com and Rocketpetz.com.

    The Victor Lamb & Rice might be one to consider for your Schnauzer if you don’t mind grain. It’s not exactly limited ingredient, but not too bad in that regard and has a bit less fat, since Schnauzers are prone to pancreatitis.

    Good luck!

  • Launa Elaine Strickland

    Haha! We live in a small community in the Eastern Sierra, CA, between Mammoth Mountain Ski Area and Bishop. Online shopping is my #1 survival tool and I found Victor Dog food on Amazon!
    Our mini schnauzer suffered terribly from skin rashes and hives until we switched to Blue Buffalo. Expensive food, but it costs lot less than the frequent Vet visits and medications (that had bad side effects). I just don’t have the budget to feed it to both dogs. They have both done well on the Kirkland.
    Diamonds bad rep does concern me greatly, so I really appreciate your suggestions!
    Thanks so much!

  • Dog_Obsessed

    Me too! The reviews are actually just based on ingredients and analysis, but the Editor’s Choice section has much more comprehensive and ever-changing reviews.

  • DogFoodie

    Darn, sorry! Yes, do ask at a local feed-type store if they could offer it for you. It’s great quality and very budget friendly. Maybe they’d even consider carrying the line.

    You could also look for Eagle Pack or Dr. Tim’s. Both are budget friendly, quality foods made by reputable manufacturers.

    I have to say, I’m not a fan of Blue Buffalo and the Kirkland product you’re looking at is made by Diamond, who’s infamously known for their recall history.

    You’ve got me wondering where you might live. Do you ever order online or could that be an option for you?

  • Launa Elaine Strickland

    Very true, Dog_Obsessed. That is why I go to websites like this. I depend on folks who have the time and resources to investigate these products.

  • Launa Elaine Strickland

    Hi DogFoodie! Sounds like an excellent product but the closest dealer is 265 miles from us. I’ll see if a local supplier can get this product for a reasonable cost. Thanks!

  • Dog_Obsessed

    Just because a product is made in the USA doesn’t mean it doesn’t outsource ingredients. I don’t know what the case is with this food, but it is made by Diamond which has had quality control issues at there South Carolina plant.

  • DogFoodie

    Hi Launa,

    Take a look at Victordogfood.com, and see if you have a local retailer nearby. Victor is a quality, affordable food from a reliable manufacturer.

  • Launa Elaine Strickland

    The packaging says “Proudly made in the USA…”

  • Launa Elaine Strickland

    We only fed our 8 year old 20 lb mini schnauzer Blue Buffalo, but when we adopted our 2 year old 50 lb rescue mixed breed, we could no longer afford to buy expensive dog food. Our mixed breed has Epilepsy, so we have to be extra careful what we feed him. We also hike at high altitude frequently so they need really good nutrition for energy and stamina! After much research, we gradually switched over to Kirkland Signature Lamb and Rice, which is affordable and very good quality. Unfortunately, it is only available at Costco, which is a 2 1/2 hour drive for us, weather permitting in winter. A local pet store owner recommended Diamond Naturals Lamb and Rice. After some research, we have decided to switch over to this product, due to the convenience and affordability. We hope both dogs do as well on this brand.

  • Christine Fannon

    Is this made in China or does it use ingredients from there?

  • theamericandreamdavidporter

    I have been feeding Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete to my Boglen Terrier and have found that his coat is shiny, breath is not offensive, his eyes are colorful, and energy levels are high.

    I do not know what owners are expecting from their respective brand of dog food but I could not ask for more.

  • Bob K

    sandra – Which Diamond product does your dog eat? What did you used to feed your dog.

  • sandra reeves

    I switched my Haze two years ago to diamond food and about four months I noticed a big difference in her eyes,coat,and gums. She eats less food and is buffed out weighing in at a healthy 67 lbs. My kids have dogs and have also switched to diamond. I would like to be able to buy the other brands in a big nuggets. Small ones r swallowed whole

  • stephanie

    I hope it works as well for diesel as it has for my furry, four-legged children! I love the protein/ fat content as well as the affordability. It is also the same manufacturer as taste of the wild.

  • Gasner Duke-Diesel

    I just switch my dog to Extreme athlete. Like you said its a very good food and affordable when u compare it to other top food. Theres also alot of stuff in that food. You dont even need to supplement… and love the high protein and fat..

  • Gasner Duke-Diesel

    Thanks Bob but I dont have to with Diesel because his Stomach is use to switching. He never get the runs…

  • Bob K

    Remember to transition slowly to a new food.

  • Gasner Duke-Diesel

    Trying extreme athlete today. I was on Taste of the wild but only 30#bag. Extreme look just as good or better and its 5 star 40# bag and less money. And ofcoure I like the 32-25

  • gayle

    I have thought about moving them to adult food, but puppy food is usually easier on tummies and has higher calories, which my 7yo Akita really needs. I may try the extreme advantage, but I don’t want her puking up every meal, bleah! She even barfs up treat biscuits. ::sigh::

  • Bob K

    Diamond Natural had a large breed adult Lamb and Rice food that might be more appropriate for your loved ones who are 2 years old also a lamb and rice for adult dogs. Ingredients are similar and the kibbles are larger too. We buy ours at Menards.

  • Eva Hickman

    I feed my dogs Diamond Naturals Small breed and they love it and do well on it.

  • gayle

    I have been feeding Diamond Large Breed Puppy Lamb/Rice to our Akita and young Basset for about 2 years. I love this food BC it is one of *very few* that our Akita can eat and not puke up, and our Basset is very healthy with no skin or joint issues. We tried *many* foods for our Akita and she looks good and is doing great on this. I am sticking with the puppy food for the foreseeable future as both dogs like it and look good, and I am glad that there is NO wheat, corn or soy in this quality product.

  • Richard Chambers

    I am in Canada close to the US border. Please make your allergy dog food available near the Canadian border and my two friends and I will be buying lots of it asap.

    Would you mind letting me know how you can be sure that Steph is not the troll? Were you supplied with personal information about Steph? That doesn’t seem right that someone from Dog Food Advisor gave you personal information about a guest poster.

  • stephanie

    I have fed Diamond Naturals Extreme Athlete for about 3 or 4 years now. Never had a problem, my dogs look great and love it. Originally I bought it because when my Ridgeback was young he was super lean and athletic, and I discovered that he could not have corn. I tried many other grain free foods and although he liked them, he would not gain weight or even maintain well on any. He looked as if I were starving him. I found Extreme Athlete to be the only thing I could find at the time with the combination of grain free/ high protein/ high fat that I was looking for. Also had to search for non fish based, as he doesn’t like the taste of fish based foods. And it was super reasonably priced! I noticed a difference within about a week. He has always done great on it. I also have a Great Pyrenees and a Whippet who eat this formula as well. All look great and love the food. Everyone is in show weight and all coats look shiny and beautiful. I did try Naturals Adult Lamb & Rice. The Great Pyrenees and Ridgeback did fine but the Whippet lost weight so I switched back to Extreme Athlete. May be a fine formula for me to try again down the road, as my Whippet just turned 15.

  • aimee

    Hi Aquariangt,

    Large giant breed growth is an area of interest of mine and I have read a lot of the original research in this area. In regards to protein what do you consider high protein ( energy basis)?

    As I haven’t found a particular protein content recommended for large/giant breed growth I’m eager to see the research that supports a particular level.

    I disagree with your comment that more carbs mean weight gain or that carbs are directly tied to weight gain.

    In a study on growth and body composition (Romsos 1976) pups eating the highest carbohydrate content diet, 62% had less weight gain as they had the leanest body composition compared to the other diets fed.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Actually, turns out there wouldn’t have to be any smuggling involved, as long as we’re talking 20kg or less (approx 44lbs), as per:


    Sounds like a road/ferry/road trip might be in order for Storm and I!! (as per Rule #3, he must come along ..thankfully, he’d be thrilled!! ..he loves car and ferry rides!) I’m not sure yet of your laws on how it would work if you brought some over here on your travels…but you’re welcome to give it a go! 😉

  • http://BrothersComplete.com/ Richard Darlington

    Storm’s Mom, It’s definitely not Steph, but your instincts were right that the troll (now as heres2u) would show up. Good news is that we know who they are and the Florida State Attorneys Office has confirmed they have broken the law and told us how to supply them with the necessary information so they can subpoena the necessary records to prosecute them. Apparently there is no such thing as total anonymity on the internet, even when using proxy servers to hide your identity. The proxy servers must legally keep the actual identities of their customers and the State and Federal agencies have the right to access this information.

  • http://BrothersComplete.com/ Richard Darlington

    Hi Steph, Sorry about WAG not being able to manage it but hopefully we’ll eventually find a way into Canada so don’t give up hope. Looks like we’ll need to get a distributer there to get the shipping charges reduced to a manageable level.

  • http://BrothersComplete.com/ Richard Darlington

    Sorry to hear that. I noticed that WAG was posting that they were now going to start shipping certain products “Globally” and wondered if they were making the shipping reasonable. Guess not. I’d like to move to the Seattle area in the not-too-distant future and if that happens I’ll consider smuggling some of our dog food to you in the trunk of our car by taking a ferry to your island. Better yet how about a sailboat that I can use to visit your island as explore all the other beautiful islands up there.

  • http://BrothersComplete.com/ Richard Darlington

    Hi Labs – Haven’t been back since my post so just saw your greeting. Hope all is well with your family.

  • heres2u

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  • heres2u