Hypoallergenic Dog Foods

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Hypoallergenic dog foods typically share one of three basic dietary designs:
Dog with Allergies and Scratching

  • Limited ingredient diets
  • Novel ingredient diets
  • Prescription or veterinary diets

First, because they contain fewer components, limited ingredient dog foods can make it easier to pin down the specific allergen to which a pet may be allergic.

Next, novel ingredient dog foods contain components the animal might not have been previously exposed to — so, therefore, less less likely to be sensitive to.

These foods contain obscure ingredients — like buffalo, pheasant, kangaroo or millet.

And finally, prescription or veterinary dog foods are diets that have been designed to contain hypoallergenic ingredients.

And as the names suggest, these products are typically prescribed and sold by veterinarians.

Most Common Allergens

Most hypoallergenic dog foods are designed to avoid the use of ingredients most likely to provoke an allergic reaction.

According to online pet food retailer, Drs. Foster and Smith, the most common canine food allergens include:

  • Beef
  • Dairy
  • Chicken
  • Lamb
  • Fish
  • Corn
  • Wheat
  • Soy
  • Yeast

Surprisingly, dogs aren’t naturally allergic to many of these items. It’s just that these are the ingredients most commonly used in dog food recipes.

So, they’re simply the ones dogs are most frequently exposed to.

And many times, it’s not even the ingredients that are the problem. Dogs can also be allergic to what’s in the ingredients, too.

Why Food May Not Be the Cause
of Your Dog’s Allergies

Contrary to popular belief, food isn’t the primary cause of a canine allergies.

According to Drs. Foster and Smith, food allergies account for just 10% of all canine allergies. They’re only the third most common cause — ranked well behind fleas and atopic (non-contact) allergies.

Yet food is the first to be blamed whenever a dog shows any sign of an allergic reaction — like itchy skin.

And that begs the question: Is it really an allergy in the first place?

Food Allergy
or Food Intolerance?

Food allergies and food intolerances are considered two different issues.

A food allergy occurs when a dog’s immune system mistakenly identifies a particular food ingredient as harmful. And then creates defensive antibodies to fight the invading enemy (the food).

A food intolerance is a digestive problem rather than an immune response. An intolerance occurs when a dog’s digestive system is unable to digest a specific ingredient.

For example, lactose intolerance is a common condition in which a dog is unable to break down lactose (a sugar found in milk).

Different Conditions
with Different Symptoms

The symptoms of an allergy can include skin rash, hives, itching, paw biting, obsessive licking and sometimes nausea or vomiting.

The signs of food intolerance include (mainly) digestive distress, gas, bloating, nausea, vomiting or diarrhea.

Again, let’s use milk as an example…

A milk intolerance would look more like gastric distress. This can include symptoms like gas, bloating or diarrhea.

However, a true milk allergy would produce an immune reaction (for example, itching or a rash).

The Bottom Line

If you believe your pet is suffering from a food intolerance or a food allergy, you may wish to consider feeding a commercial dog food that’s been specifically designed to help manage these issues.

At the end of this article, you’ll find two lists — one includes a group of hypoallergenic dog foods prescribed by veterinarians and another using limited ingredient recipes.

These lists should not be considered a complete catalog of all hypoallergenic foods available.

In fact, if you know of a specific dog food you believe we should have included on these lists, please feel free to share your suggestions in the Comments section below.

Or if you’re looking for some suggestions yourself, be sure to look through our readers’ comments below to find some good ideas.

Veterinary Hypoallergenic Dog Foods

The following veterinary dog foods are marketed as hypoallergenic. However, readers are encouraged to consult a veterinarian before feeding these products.

Suggested Limited
Ingredient Dog Foods

The following limited ingredient dog foods may be helpful in tracking down specific allergens. However, these products are listed here only because of claims made by each manufacturer.

A Final Word

The descriptions and analyses expressed in this and every article on this website represent the views and opinions of the author.

The Dog Food Advisor does not test dog food products.

We rely almost entirely on the integrity of the information posted by each company on its website. As such, the accuracy of every review is directly dependent upon the quality of the test results from any specific batch of food a company chooses to publish.

Although it's our goal to ensure all the information on this website is correct, we cannot guarantee its completeness or its accuracy; nor can we commit to ensuring all the material is kept up-to-date on a daily basis.

Each review is offered in good faith and has been designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food.

However, due to the biological uniqueness of every animal, none of our ratings are intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in a specific dietary response or health benefit for your pet.

For a better understanding of how we analyze each product, please read our article, "The Problem with Dog Food Reviews".

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt, consult a qualified veterinary professional for help.

In closing, we do not accept money, gifts or samples from pet food companies in exchange for special consideration in the preparation of our reviews or ratings.

However, we do receive a fee from Chewy.com for each purchase made as a direct result of a referral from our website. This fee is a fixed dollar amount and has nothing to do with the size of an order or the brand selected for purchase.

Have an opinion about this dog food? Or maybe the review itself? Please know we welcome your comments.

  • Susan

    Hi, I’d say the Prednisone helped your dog….The Hills Z/D Ultra is high in, InSoluble Fiber, the Dietary Fiber-3.8%, Soluble-Fiber-0.1%, InSoluble Fiber-3.7% The Z/d made my boy IBD worse, maybe it was the Starch being the first ingredient…
    when you want to change kibbles, have a look at California Natural Lamb & Rice Large bites,
    it has just 4 ingredients a lot of dogs with IBD do really well on the California Natural there’s also a Chicken & Rice Large Bites it has 5 ingredients also Taste Of The Wild Pacific Stream Smoked Salmon & Sierra Mountain Roasted Lamb…& “Canidae” Pure Formulas they are grain free limited ingredients….http://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products

  • Lynn Larsen

    We just got a bag of the Hills prescription food as well today and will try it for a few weeks to see if he gets better. It is expensive! But it sounds like if he gets better then we can start weaning him off of it. Our yellow lab is a fox red British lab. I wonder if it’s genetic because we have a black lab from the same sire and he has some occasional issues as well.

  • Toni Patik

    We had similar problem with our 20 month old yellow lab. We had many trips to the vet as well, several medications including deworming, antibiotics, etc. We ended up having exploratory surgery 3 weeks ago and biopsies came back positive for inflammatory bowel disease with predominance of eosinophils indicating allergies. He is day 4 into a burst of high dose prednisone that will start to taper in a day over the next 2 weeks or so. Other than some short-term side effects of the steroids (very thirsty and increased urination) his symptoms have completely resolved…no vomiting, diarrhea and he has been eating well. He is transitioning to hills science diet z/d which is a hydrolyzed protein dog food and we hope we can transition to a less expensive food after things have stabilized. Good luck with your dog!

  • SDF

    My 13 year old lab has had digestive issues her whole life. The only time she has ever had normal stools is when I have fed her Canine Caviar Special Needs Dry Food. She also has liked the food until recently when she stopped eating it. Unfortunately, I found that some of the shipments were rancid (dated 12/16,01/17, 02/17. Both my springer and lab began having issues. I found out that others had also experienced stomach issues from the same batches of food. The company has assured me that they have addressed the problem and moved the location the food is made. I am disappointed that they never issued a recall. Again, it is the only food that my lab has ever eaten that has not caused stomach issues and she will eat. The new batches seem much better, but I am being very cautious with each bag. So far, so good. All things considered, I feel it is worth it to no longer have constant diarrhea and stomach upset and all the meds to treat it.Good Luck with whatever you decide!

  • Lynn Larsen

    My 2 yr old yellow lab has had digestive issues since he was very young. He started on Purina Pro Plan chicken and rice and at a year we switched to Nature’s Balance Fish and sweet potato because we were told the chicken could be a problem. He still has serious bouts of diarrhea and occasional severe vomiting every 4-6 weeks. He also has gas most of the time. Recently he has started skipping meals even when the food is put out for him. He’s been seen by the vet several times and they agree it’s a food intolerance. He’s been tested for parasites and other things but is generally a very healthy and happy dog. Any ideas on what food might be a good one to start with for food intolerance?

  • court

    I met someone who’s dog was allergic to grass. If not food, maybe environmental, or a cleaning product used in your home.

  • Yvonne
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  • Yvonne

    my poor pup allergic to everything go to http://www.kyaniscience.com do your research
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    they cost about $5 a day…which i gladly pay instead of having to put him on expensive meds that are not healthy…..and this stuff won a NOBEL PRIZE and is all natural….but not sold in stores !!!! good luck and prayers

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  • Yvonne

    you may like to go to http://www.kyaniscience.com
    this stuff worked wonders for my pup who was allergic to everything….

  • Yvonne

    Hi there….I have a doberman and as soon as he turned 3 yrs old he now is allergic to Everything…although i’m still trying to pin point his exact allergy A friend of mine introduced me to something that has been the ONLY thing that has worked, I have been to veterinarians, and tried dozens of different foods, sadly nothing has worked so I tried a product called ( KYANI) it is a (3 part all natural super-food supplement ) …..(cannot buy in stores) !!!!! First go to http://www.Kyaniscience.com oh and they also won a NOBEL PRIZE too. anyway go and educate yourself on the products..you’ll be glad that you did their wonderful !!!!!!! prayers answered for not only my beloved max (my doberman ) but also for my whole family !!! since the products are SUPER FOOD, it’s SUPER NUTRITION , and super healthy…my poor pup had allergies so bad that I literally sat up holding him in my arms for 3 1/2 days before I found this product…we had also already been to vets and he had already finished 2 weeks of antibiotics..That did not do anything for his problem and vet wanted to put him on steroids…no way was I going through that again so what I’m saying is there was nothing left to do so I gave this a try….THANK GOD something FINALLY worked, and it’s all natural no chemicals nothing to harm anything it’s awesome …you will be glad and thankful to have found it too…you can perches it at ( paradisecastlecastle.kyani.net ) kyaniscience.com to educate yourself.

  • Susan

    Hi are you feeding a raw diet? cause that’s the only way to cut out all the carbs & fiber..

  • Debbie Kennedy Matlock

    How did you get the carbs/sugars out of the diet? What food are you using? Thanks!

  • Jackie Burfield

    How are your dogs doing on the Nupro Gold supplement?

  • aimee

    I don’t know why you are making an assumption that I’m trying to discredit the company. I’m simply trying to understand .a test they offer. I’m a very academically curious person and if I don’t know or understand something I set about to educate myself about it.

    I don’t know what an energy imprint is, how one is generated or how one would be measured. Both the company and you report it is based in quantum physics but neither you nor the company could explain further than that.

    The next logical step then for me to learn about this was to ask quantum physicists to explain it to me, so that is what I did. And as I said they reported that there is nothing in the field to explain what Glacier Peak is claiming.

    In regards to SmileyDog response the reasoning is flawed.

    In the example of the spellchecker,
    entering letters isn’t using inappropriate material for that device. It is designed to accept letters and suggest words based on those letters. In the case of an English spellcheck, English words.

    He/she didn’t get the results he/she wanted (French words) because the wrong device was used, not because the wrong materials, a sequence of letters was tested.

    An inappropriate entry for a spellchecker would be to use numbers or the symbols above the numbers on your keyboard. The Spellchecker can’t analyze those so you will not get any suggested words.

    You also shouldn’t get a list of suggested words back when you don’t enter any letters to analyze. This would be a negative control..

    The results are also accurate in the G.A. example. A G.A. isn’t a test for “food quality” or for “food”, that was the whole point of that particular Hill’s marketing piece. The material tested wasn’t inappropriate and the results were accurate.

    Now if you sent water to be analyzed and got back a report with levels of protein and fat and ash… well you’d have to question that result wouldn’t you?

    SmileyDog doesn’t find it odd that every test report I’ve come across is similar because his/her explanation is that the pets may be in similar environments. That my be.. but why are the reports all the same as my negative control sample? I’m curious to know why.

    If results are being seen it may be because by reporting all ingredients commonly used in pet foods in all reports you are in essence having the owner do a novel ingredient diet trial.

    I understand this is a closed case for you… maybe for everyone as well as currently the company isn’t selling the test. They have removed all information about it from their site except for a little blurb on their home page saying the page is being updated. I find it odd as it has been that way for quite some time now. Wouldn’t you just rewrite your text and than replace the “old” text with the “new” once you finished writing it? Why stop selling the test and remove all your content about the test?

  • Shawna

    Interesting that you are still trying to discredit the company. I found this reply from SmileyDog, on his website, very interesting.

    “I think you raise some valid concerns, but I can’t agree with your conclusion that the test is invalid.

    Perhaps the test could be improved by returning an error or some sort of inconclusive message when presented with inappropriate material. However, that is asking the system to do something it is not currently designed to do. While this may be construed as a flaw, it certainly does not invalidate results when appropriate material is presented for analysis.

    If I enter French words into an English spell checker, I’ll get inaccurate results. It doesn’t mean the spellchecker is invalid- it wasn’t designed to handle that language.

    Years ago a major pet food company formulated a “food” that met the Guaranteed Analysis standards set by AAFCO. The “food” consisted of motor oil, sawdust and shoe leather. The process didn’t balk when analyzing the faux food, but that didn’t invalidate the GA testing when actual food was processed.

    In both of these cases the system performed as expected. It ran its process as instructed, but was not provided appropriate material to evaluate. The same can be said of the samples in your experiment with Glacier Peak Holistics (GPH).

    After a bit of research into how biofeedback is evaluated in both animate and inanimate objects, the results you received make a certain amount of sense. This was further confirmed after speaking again with GPH. I don’t pretend to understand the science behind how biofeedback works, but I do accept the theory. In this case, as in the above examples, it supports the concept of “garbage in, garbage out.”

    I don’t find it suspect that there are similarities in the test results of multiple pets. I would find that to be unusual if each of these pets had been eating very different, high quality fresh diets and living in unique environments. We don’t know the background of these subjects. Perhaps a better way to evaluate the accuracy of these results would be to see how effective (or ineffective) eliminating the triggers were for each pet.

    Perhaps a more advanced generation of biofeedback machinery would protest and refuse to analyze an inappropriate sample. The machine used for the GPH test is calibrated to return results for specific types of material. If its test is run on a different material, the results understandably will be askew.

    I applaud your skepticism, although I don’t agree that the experiment you ran was a “fair” indication of the efficacy of the test. The samples submitted were not what were needed for an accurate test, so I don’t believe you can reasonably expect a rational result.

    My initial skepticism was put to rest after seeing concrete proof of improvements using the test results as a guide. Will this be the result in every case? Perhaps not. It is however, a viable and inexpensive option to consider when evaluating the choices available to address sensitivity/ allergy issues.” http://smileydog.com/glacier-peak-holistics-or-nutriscan-which-test-is-for-you/#comments

    I understand you, or I for that matter, can’t explain it but I HAVE seen results over and over again. This is a closed case for me.

  • aimee

    Hi Shawna,
    You wrote:””what exactly is being measured” – I don’t know how energetic imprinting
    works so……… I dare not say quantum physics might help define
    this question though, do I? ”

    In an effort to further understand “energetic imprinting” and what Glacier Peak Holistic says they are testing I contacted two quantum physicists. I relayed to them all my e mail conversations with GPH and linked to descriptions of the test.

    The quantum physicists replied back and said that there isn’t anything in the field of quantum physics that would explain what GPH is claiming.

  • Ness9866

    Hi, thanks. I’ve got herbal remedies on my to do list too.
    Good luck with your dog

  • Mirya Dorau

    I’m on the West coast of the US and have seen some raw foods in the pet store I go too. The tumor on my dog was nearly not found but of course they tried one last place since the spleen looked so discolored while doing the ultrasound. He was in pretty bad shape. They weren’t giving him much of a prognosis and anemia was a big problem, how we found the cancer to begin with. I wanted help with nutrition for the anemia so went to the vet that does Chinese Medicine etc and he has perked up a lot. They gave me an immunity herb and did acupuncture to stimulate appetite etc and he quit being such a finicky eater. I’m really glad I have both western and eastern working together here. The tech told me they have pretty good luck extending life well beyond the prognosis.

  • Check out Eden. I am slowly changing to that 5% a day.

  • I can see this was written some time ago so I hope all his settled for you, but thought I’s just throw in that I have made a very very slow change to Eden, which is a holistic brand made by an independent small family run business. Check it out.

  • Ness9866

    Thank you I will have a read up on that, she’s currently having tests to see if she’s absorbing her food properly with regards to her weight loss and it’s not impossible she has a tumour hidden somewhere. I hope you find something for your dog. We have a raw food company called Honeys in the UK, I’m not sue where you are. I have gone for a supposedly specialised hypoallergenic kibble at the moment but then find it still has 9% ash, whatever that is??? Very frustrating.

  • Mirya Dorau

    Hi, I have a mixed breed that has allergies to a long list of things, including much of what is used to make dog food as well as grass and dandelions. I had him on allergy meds for a long while and changed his diet but he would still break out. What finally did the trick for him was laser therapy. He got treatments at the vets office for his allergies, knee, and arthritis. I was able to stop the meds and he’s never broken out again. The intitial treatments were frequent and then wean down to once a month. Might be worth looking into.
    I’m currently looking for good info on home cooked diet as he has cancer.

  • Ness9866

    Thanks, I read review on Royal Canin Prescription and it wasn’t very positive but it’s all so tricky.

  • Ness9866

    Thanks, I’ll have look at that.

  • Ness9866

    Thanks, I’ll have a look at that. Yes my feed is mainly chicken and includes sweet potato but it’s knowing where to start, although I don’t think there has been much improvement it’s giving things time to work thats so frustrating. Thanks again

  • Monica King

    Hi! I just got a puppy a couple weeks ago that seemed to break out in hives after I brought him home. I did soo much research on different dog foods and found that a lot of dogs are allergic to Chicken and Sweet potatoes. Both of those ingredients were in the food I was feeding. It was Blue Buffalo. However I decided to try Zignature Trout and Salmon since it had great reviews for dogs with allergies and the fish oil in it would make his coat shiny. His hives started clearing up the next day and have completely disappeared after a week! Good luck with your girl, I highly recommend Zignature for dogs with allergies.

  • Jackie Burfield

    Hi Nicholas. Have u started adding the Nupro to your dogs food yet? I just ordered some and will start giving it to my allergy dog after I get back from holidays. I want to monitor him myself when he first starts on it. So far he is getting 4 oz. of raw turkey/bone with 1/4 tsp. Of Braggs ACV and 1/4 tsp. Tonic tea (similar to Essiac Tea) morning and dinner time and then probiotics at dinner too. I am not crazy about the probiotic I am giving him though. He is doing very good…some green boogie discharge from his eyes everyday but I figure he is detoxing from the kibble he was eating previously. Considering the vet thought I should have him put to sleep as she had no idea what was up with his skin and thought it must be some sort of a cancer! I did not agree with her and cancelled the appt. that was made to have him put to sleep and here we are 🙂

  • Diane Manulak

    How much apple cider vinegar and how much does your dog weigh? I have a boxer, pitbull mix and a frenchie, I have tried different foods, allergy pills, prednisone, and now the new allergy pills out on the market through my vet, they just have itching and the boxer never has a solid stool since he was a puppy.

  • Sandra

    Nicholas, how much do your dogs weigh, I want to give ACV but my pups are 12 lbs and 2 tsp sounds like a lot.

  • Jackie Burfield

    Hi Nicholas. Have you started adding the Nupro Gold yet? If so, how do the dogs seem to be doing with it added to their food?

  • Jackie Burfield

    Hey Nicholas.. another supplement you might want to look at is Wellytails Ensure Multi Canine Minerals and Vitamins …I will be comparing all and decide. I will be following you to see what the results will be with your dogs. I just started Atticus on totally raw turkey and bones – 4 oz. in morning + 1/4 tsp. ACV and 1/4 tsp. homemade Essiac Tea and then at supper he gets 4 oz. of the raw turkey and bones, 1/4 tsp. ACV, 1/4 tsp Essiac Tea and Probiotics. My other dog has been eating raw all along and Atticus has had raw, high end kibble, Jean Dodds homemade formulas, etc. Will try this.

  • Brenda Peacock

    Our Irish Setter battled with an itchy rash on her belly and under her tail, which she only developed from 2.5 years old.. She was diagnosed as having allergies. so we tested a change in diet first, as she was already on Bravecto for flea control. We tried her on Hills D/D and cut all treats, but she would only pick at it. It did however alleviate the rash completely.
    She had lost weight, and all enthusiasm for meals on this diet, so we decided to try Acana.
    She loves it! And so far, so good, her allergies haven’t surfaced again.

  • Shawna

    I would agree with you on the probiotics but in addition to other wonderful benefits produced from a healthy gut flora, they also help protect the gut from foods the eater is sensitive to. Here’s how

    “The answer lies in the balance of gut flora and a person’s immune system. When you have adequate beneficial flora, it serves as a protective barrier against substances that travel through the intestines, including lectins. But importantly, beneficial flora are needed to keep the production going in the intestines of two lectin-protective substances, mucin and secretory IgA.3,4

    Mucin, like lectin, is a glycoprotein in the mucous lining of the intestines. When lectins travel through the intestines, they should have mucin to bind to, rather than intestinal cells. But if mucin is missing, lectins will bind to intestinal cells instead. Secretory IgA also binds to lectins, preventing them from causing damage.5

    By taking a good quality probiotic you’ll help stimulate adequate mucin and secretory IgA production.3,4 And controlling your stress response will help prevent the over production of IgA and maintain immune balance in the gut to improve your tolerance to lectins.” http://www.institutefornaturalhealing.com/2009/07/lectins-a-little-known-trouble-maker/

  • Nicholas Degen

    Hey Pitlove, any chance you could share your story with us? Mine are Pits and an American bull dog. I got involved with animal rescue in 2010 and I’ve fostered 15 dogs since then and all 3 of mine are rescues. I also volunteer at my local shelter. As far as the food goes, one of the reasons I chose the combination of food and supplements is from talking to other people and rescues in similar situations and I believe it’s the probiotic and Raw apple cider vinegar that play a bigger role than the food does but I’m not entirely sure yet.

  • LabsRawesome

    I do puppy shots only, then Rabies every three years, and that’s it.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Awesome, Thank You! I really appreciate the info.

  • Pitlove

    My dogs receive a 3 year rabies (which is mandated by law) and a 3 year parvo/distemper shot and that is it. My lab has zero allergy symptoms and my pitbull who has suffered from allergies for just about his whole life is healing beautifully now. My vet has been his savior and I finally got some information that was worth listening to and now he’s better. No thanks to the internet.

    Glad raw is working for your dogs. Hopefully they stay healthy.

  • Shawna

    Hi Nicholas,

    I agree with you but I think the opposite is true too. A food sensitivity (not allergy) wreaks havoc with the immune system and anything that challenges the immune system more (like vaccinations etc) breaks the camels back.

    My grandson is gluten intolerant. He’s five now and has had symptoms since early on. His symptoms are extreme eczema, chronically and horribly chapped lower lip, diarrhea, behavior issues and circulation issues. All cleared on a gluten free diet.

    My grandson is 100% vaccine free and has only had antibiotics a few times in his five years — always followed with a round of probiotics. He also eats probiotic foods.

    Sensitivities to certain foods (gluten as one example) can actually cause food allergies as well by damaging the little hairs that absorb nutrients (called villous atrophy). When this happens the gut produces a hormone called zonulin which causes gaps to form allowing nutrients to pass into the blood. Along with the nutrients can come proteins that have not been properly digested – and an allergy is born.

    I read a lot of data and blogs on autistic children. Often it is vaccinations that “trigger” the reaction but also often the child gets better when placed on a GAPS diet — which is gluten and dairy free.

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I’m trying to say is that the immune systems are being weakened by other factors like vaccines, prescription drugs and antibiotics which also kill both good and bad bacteria and will throw the balance of the gut off. With my 3 dogs who were all itching, scratching and 2 would severely chew their paws – all were fed the same dog foods throughout the years and they all had very different allergy test results but my veterinarians tried to say they were all allergic to dust and they would never get better. It started with paw chewing in 2012/2013, then came ear infections, then staph infections and lastly all 3 have MRSA Staph infections. I did everything my veterinarians asked, even got several other opinions but they only got worse every year. After researching this on my own, I started them on a probiotic and raw apple cider vinegar the last week of September 2015, 5 days later I started them on raw food and by the beginning of January 2016 None were itching at all anymore so I leaned them off the remaining prescription drugs and finished all antibiotics and they’ve been doing great ever since. All of my dogs had multiple severe bacterial infections, one lost his entire coat for a year and a half – repeated blood tests and they still couldn’t figure it out that the immune system was in very bad shape. His coat is back completely as of Feb 2016 and is the best its ever looked and my other 2 are also doing great as well. I will be adding Nupro to the raw soon because the raw with the supplements is not complete diet but wanted to keep things simple at first.

  • theBCnut

    I’m an old dog when it comes to doing google searches, but I googled “protein in peas” and got this http://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/food/green-peas/protein

    “protein in wheat” got me this http://wheatproteins.com/index.html

    “protein in rice” got me http://www.weightlossforall.com/protein-rice.htm

    As for environmental pollution, I’m talking about pesticides, herbicides, lead, you name it. If I provide a link for everything the spam filter for this site will toss my reply out, but that should give you a starting place.

    BTW, my dog also does much better on a very low carb diet, even if the carbs are not foods he is sensitive to.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Can you please be more specific as to which “carb sources have protein in them”? And provide a link so I can possibly learn about this, when I search for any information the only thing that comes up is bodybuilding websites. Can you also provide more information as to your “Environmental Pollution” reference – you’re only the second person to mention this and they couldn’t explain in any real detail what they were talking about. Links for both would be greatly appreciated. Although I believe I’m on the right path, I’m keeping an open mind while learning as much as possible. Thank You!

  • theBCnut

    Unbalanced diets are fine in the short term to work out what your dog is sensitive to. This is how elimination diets are done and they are the gold standard for food sensitivity diagnosis. I wouldn’t add in the Nupro until your month is done. Usually, vets recommend picking one meat and one veggie source that the dog has never been exposed to and feeding just that for 6-10 weeks before adding just 1 other new food to the diet. It can take years to do a full elimination diet(I’m on year 4).

  • theBCnut

    I really believe my dog’s issues started because he had a very severe round worm infestation as a very small puppy and was not treated for it until I got him at 8 weeks. The damage to his intestinal wall was evident then. His issues started before his vaccine history, however I’m very careful to limit his vaccines to just his puppy shots and 3 yr rabies because we believe they certainly haven’t helped him.

  • theBCnut

    Actually, another common denominator is environmental pollution, and personally, I think it also play a major role.

  • Jackie Burfield

    I totally agree about the vaccinations! My one allergy dog is now 8 years old. I believe the person we bought him from lied about his age and we ended up getting him many weeks before we should have. I got his vaccinations shortly after and he has had all of these problems ever since.

  • Ness9866

    Hi. She will eat just about anything and unusually for a GSD very little disagrees with her. I’m not sure she would ever stop eating if given the choice, however she never scavenges or steals. She’s been wormed and had basic blood and urine tests with no negative findings. She’s still itchy and scabby. The odd bit is, the scabs appear everywhere including her neck and head where she can’t physically cause them herself, but she’s still full of beans.

  • Nicholas Degen

    I only feed my dogs once a day so they get duck with 2 teaspoons of raw acv mixed into their food and one packet of Advita Probiotic sprinkled on top. This is unfortunately not a complete diet but I just picked up Nupro Gold Additive that I’ll be adding into the food. I just want one solid month of no itching, scratching and paw chewing before making any changes. Its taken me a long time to get this far and they’re doing great so far.

  • Nicholas Degen
  • Nicholas Degen

    Hey Jackie, 2 of my 3 dogs weigh 70 lbs and my big guy weighs 100 lbs. Your dog being so small, I would start with half a teaspoon because there’s still mixed opinions as to what dogs can safely consume. I’m going to start checking the pH of their urine to help make sure they’re still in the safe zone. As far as duck is concerned, most beef and chicken is raised with steroids and antibiotics and I don’t know where they get those 2 products from. The duck was recommended by my vet actually and they were nice enough to let me know where the duck originates from (eastern Long Island). Lastly I had read that some vaccines are created in chicken and beef proteins and when a dog receives one of these vaccines, they are 50% more likely to develop an allergy to whatever protein source the vaccine was created with – it’s unfortunately impossible to ever find out how the vaccine was made so Duck is a safe choice in my opinion.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Nicholas-

    “Something that I’m in the process of proving is that if the Immune system is compromised or weakened in any way, the dog’s allergy sensitivities will be increased”

    This is already a known and accepted fact in the field. Allergies do suppress the immune system and cause secondary issues like yeast and the inability to fight off infection. Once the allergen trigger is removed, the body balances out and can control things like yeast and infection. My dog is living proof…aside from the research.

    Oh and he still eats kibble and he’s doing great.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Hey Ness9866, So your only problem is she’s struggling to get weight on her? Has she been checked for worms and other health related issues? Does she like and eat all of her food? will she eat more?

  • Nicholas Degen

    I feed my dogs a raw duck diet, 70% meat, 30% bone – it comes ground up like chop meat. I’m using Advita Probiotic (One packet sprinkled on top of food) which I buy from amazon and I also add 2 teaspoons of Raw Apple Cider Vinegar and they only eat once a day. Unfortunately, dog foods don’t list carbohydrate content percentages and trying to find any dog products without them was impossible. For treats, I use Deb’s Healthy Pet Treats, (Chicken, Duck and Beef Liver) Broken into tiny pieces – my dogs have always been given tiny treats and they don’t mind at all. This is a huge benefit because if they only get 4 tiny pieces a day, it’s not likely going to affect them adversely at all.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Something that I’m in the process of proving is that if the Immune system is compromised or weakened in any way, the dog’s allergy sensitivities will be increased. This is why I went to using a good probiotic and raw apple cider vinegar with raw duck dog food. I tried many different dog foods and had no luck at all and this is why I chose to get away from dog food altogether. Dog Foods with any carbohydrate listed as one of the first 6 ingredients made my dogs react within a half hour of eating. I saw a difference within a day or 2 after removing carbs from their diets. What I just did recently was I took my entire vet record history, sorted them by dog and then by date and sure enough, all 3 of my dogs issues came shortly after being vaccinated at my veterinarians office. If my theory is correct, the vaccines severely weakened their immune systems and that’s when my nightmare began. My dogs were allergy tested and I plan on having it redone yearly to see if the levels change. Since switching to raw, I keep a daily journal for all 3 dogs that lists food, supplements, medications, exercise, etc. and I still research these issues every chance I get. When you think about how dogs have been on Earth for nearly 32,000 years and dog food and vaccinations are both less than 100 years old and dogs cancer rate is through the roof as well as allergies and skin issues – Vaccines and Dog Food are the only 2 common denominators.

  • Jackie Burfield

    Hi Nicholas Degen. How much do your dogs weigh that you give them 2 tsp. Of ACV? My dog weighs 25 lbs. so just wondering how much I would give him per day? Also how did you come to choose duck aside from being local …was it a novel protein they had never had before? So you give your dogs the duck, ACV and probiotic every morning and night for their meals then? No ground up veggies at all? Thanks for the info.

  • I have just read ‘Review of Royal Canin, Hills Science Plan, Burns’ Ness, and I think you should check that out. Tricky getting it right it seems for your hound. I am researching now for my dog as he has a sensitive stomach, allergic to gluten too. Minefield. Just had a touch of pancreatitis. Hey ho.

  • Ness9866

    Hi. Thank you for your reply. I’m in the UK so no need for Rabies jabs. She had her last litter at 6 and was spayed last year
    I have just been to the vet to rule out anything obvious with bloods and urine. She’s dropped about 3kg in 3 months but basically the vet has suggested we go down the hypoallergenic route, what a surprise.
    She improved a bit with the raw food diet but the weight isn’t improving, so now going onto a all chicken kibble. The vet said, what if she’s allergic to chicken?” Aaah!! Ive got to start some where!!!
    I’ll have a look at getting some coconut oil when we’ve been on this for a while.
    Thank you again for your suggestions.

  • txn64

    I have 4 GSDs one is an allergy dog like yours which breaks out if I feed the wrong food.
    Personally I would put her on Taste of the Wild Fish/Potato and get unrefined organic coconut oil which you can find anywhere. Start with one teaspoon a day melt and put in food or see if she will eat off spoon. Move up to 2 teaspoons in a week the follow 1tablespoon and the following week 2 tablespoons.. She will have a nice coat in a couple of months and all the scratching and licking should stop. You said she is 9 so surely she is not breeding anymore? And she no longer needs anymore shots except rabies. Now the Vet is just making money off people with dogs at this age. I stop all vaccine except Rabies at 6 years of age. Good Luck..

  • Jammin

    What food do you feed your dog then? I’m assuming you feed your dog some type of food and add the probiotic. Please let me know how you were able to remove sugars and carbs. Thanks!

  • theBCnut

    BTW, even carb sources have protein in them. Most allergies/food sensitivities are an immune response to proteins, including the proteins in carbohydrate sources. Though there is some recent research showing that there are some allergic reactions to fats. I’ve spent slightly more than 3 years doing an elimination diet with my dog to figure out what he is allergic to. It will probably be lifelong because his reactions seem to be changing.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Apoquel is starting to show its dark side with long term usage. Try looking into Nzymes – They have a lot of free information as well as products that will help. I firmly believe that a good probiotic will help out a lot of dogs with skin, paw and allergy issues. I created a similar kit with Advita probiotic, Braggs raw apple cider vinegar and a raw duck diet and my dogs are no longer itching. One of my 3 still has few hot spots so we just started the Nzymes kit.
    http://www.nzymes.com/dog-skin-problems-types-treatments/5-steps-to-dogs-healthy-skin/
    https://www.nzymes.com/dog-health/skin-problems/systemic-yeast-infection-in-dogs/

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections was the carbohydrates and sugars in dog foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them from their diet but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. After seeing 7 different veterinarians and a board certified dermatologist the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dismissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Bragg’s raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well. I STRONGLY ADVISE TO NOT TAKE THE DOG FOR VACCINATIONS IF THE DOG IS SHOWING ANY ALLERGY SYMPTOMS. Doing so will only weaken the immune system further.

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections was the carbohydrates and sugars in dog foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them from their diet but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. After seeing 7 different veterinarians and a board certified dermatologist the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well. I STRONGLY ADVISE TO NOT TAKE THE DOG FOR VACCINATIONS IF THE DOG IS SHOWING ANY ALLERGY SYMPTOMS. Doing so will only weaken the immune system further.

  • Nicholas Degen

    All medications should be temporary while trying to find the root cause. Apoquel is causing major problems in long term users.

  • Nicholas Degen
  • Nicholas Degen
  • Nicholas Degen

    I would recommend switching to a raw duck diet if possible and a good probiotic asap. Keep it simple in the beginning. I was told my 3 dogs would have to be on meds their entire lives and after being on steroids and a bunch of antibiotics for 3 years – I believe this is what caused dysbiosis in my dogs. The medications are only going to provide temporary relief and will take a toll on the dogs immune system. My dogs health turned around after consistently using a probiotic and raw apple cider vinegar with each meal for 2 months. Dogs Naturally Magazine has been a great source of free information as well as Dr Karen Becker (Mercola Healthy Pets). I do believe you could also benefit from looking into the Nzymes website, Nzymes.com. They have helped many dogs like yours although they market their products mostly towards dogs with skin/yeast issues which also have to do with the dogs gut.

  • Nicholas Degen

    I would recommend cutting out almost all of the supplements for a short period of time and slowly introduce each ingredient and see when she starts itching. I’ve seen many dogs react to fish oil, sea weed and a few probiotics which many are made from different sources. Start with your protein source for a week or two and cut all treats as well and if the itching does stop or decrease slowly add each ingredient (one every week or preferably 2 weeks). I’ll be using Nupro soon to supplement the raw diet my 3 are getting.

  • theBCnut

    I have used one of their canned foods successfully, my dog also has issues with high carb foods and all kibbles seem to be too high carb for him. I usually feed half high protein kibble and half raw meat and bones. My dog doesn’t have any issue with potatoes, as long as it is only a small amount, but I know plenty of people who can’t feed potatoes at all. My dog can’t handle any grain at all, and I have tried them all. He also can’t have any birds, tomato, flax, alfalfa, pumpkin, lamb, goat, and I don’t even know what all else.

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections was the carbohydrates and sugars in dog foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them from their diet but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. After seeing 7 different veterinarians and a board certified dermatologist the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well. I STRONGLY ADVISE TO NOT TAKE THE DOG FOR VACCINATIONS IF THE DOG IS SHOWING ANY ALLERGY SYMPTOMS. Doing so will only weaken the immune system further.

  • Nicholas Degen
  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections (aka yeast infections) was the carbohydrates and sugars in dog foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them from their diet but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. After seeing 7 different veterinarians and a board certified dermatologist the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well. I STRONGLY ADVISE TO NOT TAKE THE DOG FOR VACCINATIONS IF THE DOG IS SHOWING ANY ALLERGY SYMPTOMS. Doing so will only weaken the immune system further.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Your dogs issue sounds like dysbiosis. Here’s a link explaining it.
    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/08/27/cats-and-dogs-leaky-gut.aspx
    I would recommend getting your dog back on a probiotic asap. There are many out there and you can read reviews on amazon. I like Advita by VetOne and K9 supreme probiotics were the (2) I liked best. You might also like to research Nzymes at Nzymes.com.

  • Nicholas Degen

    I had almost the same issues but with 3 dogs (not related) and I did have them allergy tested with different results but after seeing 7 different veterinarians the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well.

  • Nicholas Degen

    Hey “theBCnut”, All of my research so far has the carbohydrates as the problem (still not sure why) and I haven’t met anyone who has had any luck with natural balance dog foods with potatoes. Are you feeding their foods with the potatoes or brown rice? I’m trying to research this on my own and all input would help greatly. Thank you

  • Nicholas Degen

    I have 3 dogs (not related) and I had them allergy tested with different results for all 3 but after seeing 7 different veterinarians the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. A year and half in, I found out that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well.

  • Nicholas Degen
  • Nicholas Degen

    I had almost the same issues but with 3 dogs (not related) and I did have them allergy tested with different results but after seeing 7 different veterinarians the best they could come up with is that my dogs had to be on either Temaril-P or Apoquel for the rest of their lives. Now, because the allergy test results were different and the symptoms never changed from season to season the allergy test results were no longer relevant to me. I found out after dealing with these issues for a year and half that my dogs were reacting to foods and treats with a carbohydrate listed as one of the main ingredients in dog foods. If a carbohydtrate was one of the first 6 ingredients, my dogs would react within a half hour of eating by chewing and licking their paws which led to ear issues and eventually skin issues. My veterinarians dimissed this as useless information and now 3 years since the start, and being told my dogs would be itchy the rest of their lives because they have allergies, I no longer have itchy dogs at all. I started by putting my dogs on a good probiotic (which I researched online and reviews on amazon) and then to raw diet a few days later and I also added 2 teaspoons of Braggs’ raw apple cider vinegar. During this process, I keep a daily journal which includes food, supplements, exercise, baths and medications. I also list the condition of each dog so I have always been able to go back and see what worked and what made them worse. My 3 dogs have now been on a raw duck diet (ducks are raised here on long island) and unlike chicken and beef – they’re not pumped with antibiotics and I know that they’re not imported from another country. I tried a few different Probiotics and I like Advita the best which comes in single serve packets and I also include 2 teaspoons of the Bragg’s Raw Apple Cider Vinegar into the food and within 2 months of this combination my dogs are now doing great and still not itching. I was told it might get worse as the body detoxes itself because if the gut isn’t healthy the dogs’ skin is where the toxins end up. I’ll share the links where I learned about this as well.

  • Nicholas Degen

    I tried a few different Probiotics before finding one that worked well. I learned that they’re made from different sources and the results will vary. I tried Advita first, then K9 Supreme Probiotics, Mercola Complete for pets and now I’m back using Advita which I purchase from Amazon.com. Nzymes.com also sells a healthy skin kit which I just started using to see if it works and all of research before finding them has led me to the same components. However, it really was the removal of the carbs and sugars that made the biggest and immediate difference and I’m still researching as to why this is happening. Most people have yet to realize this is most likely the issue with most itchy dogs including ear issues and paw licking.

  • Ness9866

    Thank you, it is a mine field. She does get homemade kefir a probiotic.
    Really struggling to get weight on and giving her nearly a kg of raw food a day, 70% meat.
    Onwards and upwards

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections was the carbohydrates and sugars in foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. To complete your dogs’ diet, I would personally recommend something like Nupro – http://www.amazon.com/Nutri-Pet-7412-Nupro-5-pounds/dp/B000084EEC. I used Advita probiotic and Braggs’ Raw Apple Cider Vinegar and 2 months later my dogs completely stopped itching while feeding them Raw Duck (70%meat, 30%bone, ground up like chop meat). I have 3 dogs, not related and have spent a ridiculous amount of time and money researching canine allergies after 7 different Veterinarians and one canine dermatologist couldn’t help me. Once I was told my dogs had to be on prescription medication the rest of their lives, that’s when I started looking into solutions on my own. The very drugs they prescribed my dogs only weakened their immune systems more. Some great sources of information have been Dogs Naturally Magazine, Doctor Karen Becker and Nzymes.com website has a bunch of free information as well.

  • Nicholas Degen

    What I found to be the root cause of the itching, paw licking and ear infections was the carbohydrates and sugars in dog foods and treats. I noticed a huge difference the following day after removing them but the other big issue is the dogs immune system. I used Advita probiotic and Braggs Raw Apple Cider Vinegar and 2 months later my dogs completely stopped itching. I have 3 dogs, not related and have spent a ridiculous amount of time and money researching canine allergies after 7 different Veterinarians and one canine dermatologist couldn’t help me. Once I was told my dogs had to e on prescription medication the rest of their lives, that’s when I started looking into solutions on my own. The very drugs they prescribed my dogs only weakened their immune systems more. Some great sources of information have been Dogs Naturally Magazine, Doctor Karen Becker and Nzymes.com website has a bunch of free information as well.

  • theBCnut

    Yikes!! I’m in pretty much the same situation with my dog. He has so many food sensitivities that there is only one kibble he does well on, and it’s expensive. Mostly, I make homemade food for him.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Grace- Have you looked at Zignature? Its potato and grain free.

  • Grace Henderson

    The potato starches have become problematic for one of my dogs. Trying to find a limited ingredient dog food that does not use Potato as a base is not easy.

  • Grace Henderson

    Or some, like Natural Balance Potato & Duck, have too many carbs/starches and not enough protein…

  • Grace Henderson

    Natural Balance worked for mine for about a year; now we’ve got issues again. Grain-free definitely helps the digestive tract. I can’t really afford the food that they’ve done best on, which is Zignature, but I’m about to start paying for it anyway, because I’ve tried every other limited ingredient food, except Fromm- I am not sure where to find that near me. Their coats (they’re blue pit mixes) got so healthy and shiny on Zignature’s Trout & Salmon formula! But now one of them won’t eat it. She won’t eat their new Whitefish mix either. Ugh. So expensive, and frustrating! Hate it.

  • Ness9866

    I have a 9 year old GSD ex police brood bitch. She has had every inoculation under the sun, for obvious reasons and 3 litters. She is no doubt over bred and has a very active mind. She has always been very itchy as has her brother who I know.
    I have tried every type of cleaning, steaming, washing regime.
    She was on Royal Canin Maxi adult but since it has been down to me to feed her I first tried her on James Welbeloved Meat and rice kibble.
    She has now developed large scabby patches all over her. A course of antibiotic cleared it up first time around but they returned quite quickly, and she is dropping weight.
    Unlike many GSD’S she never has gastro trouble.
    I am now trying her on a raw food diet. Pet mince (with no fillers), veg, eggs and oil. She has only been on this for two weeks but although she seems a bit less itchy she is still not putting on the weight I would like. The scabs are still there but I’m hoping they will clear up naturally soon.
    She eats very well, drinks normally. Her poo and pee are normal and she’s as active as she has ever been.
    I have read so many different things on here, brown rice is okay, brown rice is not okay, sweet potatoes, yes/no cooked/raw, whole oats good, no grain. I’m so confused!!!!
    Does anyone have any other suggestions for me?
    In anticipation. Thanks

  • Kathy Stephens

    I had sort of the same problem for a short spell. It turned out I was putting her pills in the side pocket of her mouth and they were sticking to the sides of her esophagus and dissolving there. Dissolving pills are caustic. It caused blisters, inflammation and GERD. Now I give her a little food so the throat is wet, put the pill in something she will gulp down quick, like little piece of bologna or bread, and have the rest of her food ready in the bowl immediately. She takes a few pills a day with both food and environmental allergies. I have an 80 lb White German Shepherd that is 7 years old.

  • Kathy Stephens

    Balanceit.com

  • C. Briggs

    GS diagnosed with anal fistulas, tried different dog foods and now on Royal Canin Hypoallergenic venison. After a month of doing well, vomited the food one night and then hadn’t had a bowel movement in a week. Now not eating the Royal Canin. On metonidazole and Tacrolimus. Vet upped dose of metronidazole to twice a day. Any others with experience with anal fistulas.

  • Bruce Dwyer

    Hi Susan, I use the Hills 11% fibre pack, the highest non prescription I could find. I use a raw meat diet because I know exactly the quality of it and the percentage of meat, to offal to bone. No point paying a third party to do less of a job. I dont blend any vegetable matter in it because I believe dogs are a carnivore. I am conceding that by feeding the pellets, but I relented only because of nutrion articles i read about dog intestine quality being improved by beet (not grown in Australia) I only use 3 and 6 Omega because that is the only ones that the science papers give for absolute amounts and ratios. Omega 9 is also an inflammatory, like the other higher order Omegas. I have done the sums and compared to aafco tables and that is why I give a human grade human strength multi vitamin rather than the higher priced lower strength dog vitamins. On a raw diet a dog is better for the higher amounts in a human vitamin (ensuring not to exceed max levels) – and knowing that water soluble vitamins can be a high level but will not accumulate and cause organ issues.

  • Nick im

    Thanks Ei.

  • Nick im

    Foodie, I like holistic medicine, but there is a lot of circular thinking going on in the one article you suggested I read. Cause and effect are difficult to determine in this situation and “immune confusion” is the very definition of an allergy. The change in food was also a part of his progress. I will continue to give Apoquel when he is itching. A few months back I had a hairless animal that was raw and bleeding from head to toe. I couldn’t even pet him. He was withdrawn and miserable. I’ll take my chances.i want his time on earth to be free of misery.

  • InkedMarie

    You may want to google for side effects. I think it was Vital Animal who just had a 2 part article on it. Also check Dr Will Falconer.

  • DogFoodie
  • Ei

    So pleased Apoquel has worked

  • Nick im

    Yes Apoquel did it for my dog too.

  • Nick im

    Exactly, a three year search led me to that new drug Apoquel. Amazing results and no side effects.

  • Nick im

    Same with my dog. Amazing results. I have my dog back.

  • Nick im

    Maritza, I went through the same nightmare as you with a rescued mutt. Right now, he is completely under control. He eats Natures Receipe Vegetarian Formula to which I add chicken. His fur was thick and shinny after a month on that particular food. I also bathe him one a week in GNC anti-fungal, anti-bacterial shampoo that can be purchased from PetSmart. His food comes from Chewy.com. The shampoo works miracles. Mine had sensitivity to steroids, etc. However, there is a new prescription medication for itching called Aproquel and I have seen no side effects. In a matter of months, his raw spots have healed and most of his hair has grown back. His raw painful toes, and between his toes have healed. Although allergy was underlying condition, the vet also had to treat him for a bacterial infection caused from his raw skin. I know what you mean about hating to see your dog like that. I wanted to cry everytime I looked at him. He was so miserable. Now he is in good spirits and his energy has returned. Good luck with your pup.

  • Susan

    Hi, also an aussie, (Newcastle) just wondering you wrote you feed some Pellets (Kibble) for fibre..what kibble are you feeding ?? have you heard of “Meals For Mutts” ? excellent for dogs with skin/stomach problems, MfM kibble is Gluten, Dairy, sugar & potato FREE,
    http://www.mealsformutts.com.au/index.html
    also why don’t you blend some raw broccoli, celery, apple in a blender for fibre, here’s Jacqueline Rudan Animal Naturopath maintenance raw diet also click on her products her omega 3,6 & 9 oil for dogs is really good just squirt on food also her DigestaVite Plus powder, for stomach, skin & coat & balances the diet…
    http://www.naturalanimalsolutions.com.au/natural-diet.html

  • Shawna

    True food allergies, an IgE response by the body, are rather rare as mentioned. Food sensitivities and intolerances, an IgA / IgG response, are quite common though and they can manifest as itchiness, ear infections, gut issues and even autoimmune diseases.

    I have a sensitivity to caseine protein in dairy (both cow and goat dairy products). I can develop itchy scalp, sinus and ear issues, arthritis like inflammation in my joints (but not arthritis), bowel issues and so on. I had symptoms as early as 12 years old but wasn’t diagnosed, via elimination diet, until I was 40 years old. It is definitely not a true allergy as my symptoms usually develop hours, or even days, after the exposure.

    After years of being on this site I’ve seen folks whose dogs react to things like peas, potato, cucumbers, green beans as well as meat proteins.

    Certain food sensitivities can actually cause food allergies by causing malnutrition (via villous atrophy) which then causes gaps in the digestive tract walls (via a hormone called zonulin) which then allows undigested proteins into the bloodstream where the immune system can react to it.

  • flyonawall

    Thank you so much.

  • Bruce Dwyer

    Good sensible concise article. I am a pro dog walker, a raw meat feeder (with some pellets for fibre) and an allergic dog (cockapoo). I have actively researched dog allergies for a long time since my dog has a skin allergy (and bouts of runny poos). As treats I mostly feed my dog 100% dried meat (kangaroo and tuna) which of course
    are novel foods. But this is easy since I also run the store
    (healthydogtreats.com.au) – what I wanted to say about food allergies is that like the article says only 10% (some say 5%) of dog allergies are food related. I am pretty sure that most of my dogs allergies come from skin contact with local grasses in Australia.

    He used to have very bad licking of paws and runny poos but around 3 years old, I started using high doses of Omega 6 (12 ml sunflower oil) and 6 x 1000 mg fish oil capsules for Omega 3 – depending on his other foods this usually gives a ratio of around 4. It stopped the discolouration on his paws and mostly fixed his licking. He still scrubs his head and butt on grass, but this is because he still has itchiness
    (paws contact grasses) and the scratching causes more allergy irritation. I have found that a raw diet (low amounts of grain) and adding Omega 3 from fish oil (not flax) has almost fixed his allergies.

    PS I know plenty of people who use expensive hypoallergenic foods for their dogs and never tried a proper elimination diet (the only way to truly tell). Blood tests are inconclusive at best and they
    might be spending a lot of money for little change. Since the Omega 6 and 3 daily regime has fixed my very allergic dog, I doubt that the raw meat diet could be contributing to his allergies in any significant way. I am amazed at other articles (on other sites) trying to scare people away from raw and dried meat, because the major manufacturers make most of their money by selling cheap grains in expensive bags. Not all, but that is why you guys have research and a good rating system) cheers Bruce & Archie

  • theBCnut

    Someone named Rachel made an excel sheet that does this. I think it’s found at Dogfoodwizard. Good luck! I had to go to Chewy dot com and order the dog food from most expensive to least and then go through every foods ingredient list.

  • flyonawall

    Is there a website, that anyone knows of, that you can list your dog’s allergies and a specific dog food can be recommended?

  • SHEILA

    http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/54-iodine-supplementation.html
    this article also said povidone iodine is a substitute…. and to beware. so much to learn – internet info can be confusing as well.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Not Labs but…

    You said “It is interesting to me that when I proposed doing this test no one said
    to me that it the results wouldn’t be valid based on how biofeedback
    works…it is only now after I ran the control sample that this is
    being said.”

    I can’t speak for everyone, of course, but I know that when you proposed the “test” I was incredulous that someone would even think of doing such a deceitful thing, and I wanted nooooo part in in any way being seen to be encouraging or condoning you doing what you were proposing to do. So, I said nothing. I suspect I’m not alone in doing that for those (or similar) reasons.

    I also suspect that if I or someone else on here were to try to explain biofeedback to you, it would be excruciatingly painful and pointless because I have a hard time believing you’ll ever “get there” (or want to) and, on that journey, it’ll just be the start of one or more of those never ending debates that you are famous for trying to have with Shawna, in particular. Again, I suspect I am not alone in saying that I have no desire to go down that road with you.

    Good luck to whoever takes aimee’s bait on this. Because, don’t kid yourself, that’s what it is.

  • SHEILA

    Aloe is ok (topical). If it is truly pure aloe it is also digestable. You need to read labels because even if it is pure, it isn’t necessarily the only ingredient. As for Povidone Iodine, the pharmacist was the one who explained the difference (so frustrating when I can’t get the correct answer). I will be able to find it though at a Whole Foods or health food store, shouldn’t be difficult. I am determined to help my boy. Thanks again Lynda.

  • Lynda Le

    I don’t know much about Aloe and when it becomes poisonous and when it’s good for dogs. The Povidone iodine is not a cream. It’s a dark solution. Look up at cvs or Walgreens Povidone Iodine 10% solution. I use a few drops mix with water and wipe his face with it.

  • SHEILA

    Thank you Lynda. I also just started yesterday using pure aloe as well as added baking soda to his drinking water. It will take time to hopefully see results but worth the effort. The iodine mentioned is a cream, so need to find it. The drugstore doesn’t carry it.

  • aimee

    Hi LabsRawesome,
    You wrote “I am not surprised at the test results you got when you did your
    experiment. If you knew how biofeedback works you wouldn’t be either.”

    It is true I don’t understand how biofeedback works as the term is being used in this context. I do understand the term as it is used in the medical field for teaching people to control physiologic responses like blood pressure, heart rate and muscle tension.

    It is interesting to me that when I proposed doing this test no one said to me that it the results wouldn’t be valid based on how biofeedback works…it is only now after I ran the control sample that this is being said.

    But I am trying to learn how this works. When I asked the company to explain it the reply I got was “I don’t know how it works” So if the company that runs this test doesn’t know how it works is it any surprise that I also don’t know?

    But what they did explain was in terms of physical science and it uses “a type of molecular identity.”

    When I think of that it reminds me of doing spectral analysis. I did this in school in organic chem class. I honestly no longer remember the details but as I remember it as a graph that was generated that gave you information on the types of bonds present in your molecule. Each molecule had a unique pattern.

    Spectral analysis was used in lab as a tool to identify unknown substances. I was in the advanced class and our unknowns were mixed in solution. We had to figure out how to separate them and then identify them. I could not figure out one of the compounds I had. The teacher was blinded and he was stumped as well. It was very frustrating and believe me I had a lot of “bad energy” in the form of choice words etc.. BUT the reading came out the same each time. It was a physical test and a physical test can’t be altered by “bad energy”

    Do you understand biofeedback? Can you explain it to me? GPH initially told me that only imprints from the dog’s DNA would be read as the machine is specifically programmed to only read an imprint from the species it is programmed to read. But now that I received a readout when I didn’t send in any dog DNA I’m being told you can put anything in the machine and get a readout. So what she is saying is that the plastic bag and cotton swabs give a readout. I wonder then why program the machine if it doesn’t filter out that which you don’t want information on?

    It is all very confusing to me and right now the only reasonable conclusion I can make is that the testing isn’t valid
    ,

  • rosie

    My Walker hound has IBD and for 2 years suffered severe bloody and mucous diarrhea and vomit. Metronidazole certainly helped, but the miracle happened with the OVERNIGHT change of diet to Natural Balance Limited Ingredient Potato/ Kangaroo dry food. She can also eat 1/4 can NB Venison/Sweet Potato with no problem. She still gets metronidazole, but only once a day. I feed her 3 meals, about 6 hours apart, and I add a teaspoon of slippery elm bark powder with water to the two meals w/o the metro. She will get seriously sick if she finds even a few kibbles of the other dogs’ food. It seems really important to her to keep the fat and fiber low, and to completely avoid all poultry and fish. Probably grain, too. Attempts at giving probiotics, with her vet’s recommendation, were always poor for her. She’s been doing great, looks great and is much more pleasant for the other dogs to be around! For fun, I smear some of her canned food onto a toy and freeze it or stuff a hollow bone or Kong. The sooner you find the solution, the better. Good luck!

  • theBCnut

    My dog with food sensitivity issues gets acid reflux when on grains. I would look for food sensitivities.

  • Lynda Le

    Good luck! I’ve actually saw a lot of articles on yeast infections while doing my research about Staff infections. I can’t remember specific recommendations but it’s out there! Good luck finding a successful holistic approach! I want to say read about probiotics, prebiotics, enzymes and ACV. I’m not sure which if any will help but they came up a lot in my research! Let me know if Povidone iodine works for your pup! This stuff is a life saver. It’s been a few months since his last allergen injections and over a year since antibiotics! Woohoo!

  • SHEILA

    Thanks for sharing your info. We have to figure something out with our bulldog, Magoo. He has a chronic yeast infection that has us visiting the vet every 2 months if not more. Every time, he is put on meds, gets better, then back to square one. It is temporary relief and not acceptable. He is being fed Canin Hypoallergenic dry food and that’s it. We do not think his food is the problem or making any difference at $100 a bag. We would pay more if we had to if it helped but … We have asked that his med records be sent to another vet for some new or possible solutions to his itchy skin that goes from black to pink and back again. Poor pooch also smells when he flares up. I will look for providine iodine and incorporate your other suggestions, thank you.

  • LabsRawesome

    I like how you put works in parentheses. There are many people that are satisfied with their test results. If they can find out their dogs allergy triggers with this test then it obviously works. A person doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. I am not surprised at the test results you got when you did your experiment. If you knew how biofeedback works you wouldn’t be either. I would be more impressed with an experiment where you sent in real actual samples from a dog that actually has real allergy symptoms. Then you could obtain a real test result, avoid the allergen triggers, and report on whether or not you get good results with the dog. That would be a much better test on the efficacy of the allergy test.

  • el doctor

    Hi aimee

    I think that most representatives come here to promote and market their products, making claims that just don’t hold up under scrutiny.

    And I believe that if a representative were to come here and talk honestly about a product that they could be truly proud of, and left out the hyperbole and “smoke and mirrors”, then they would do just fine.

  • aimee

    Hi Pitlove,

    I’m glad it helped some. I have to say the more GPH tried to explain its methodology the less sense it made to me. But I’m trying to understand. Hopefully Traci will be back to explain

  • Pitlove

    Hi Aimee-

    Yes thank you, that was helpful. I had a look at some research regarding the use of biofeedback to test for allergies in humans and most of what I found was that biofeedback is essentially looked at as a joke in the science based medical field.

    Frankly, I would never and have never accepted alternate forms of medicine for myself, so I can see why people would and SHOULD question this same method for their pet.

    Absolutely nothing deceptive or evil about questioning the world around you.

  • aimee

    Anyone that uses the process of science is a scientist in their own regard. I am not a paid professional scientist if that is what you mean but that doesn’t preclude me from following scientific methodology.

    Emily Rose wasn’t a paid professional scientist at nine years of age but her science project was “described by other scientists as “simple and elegant,” and published in a peer reviewed journal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_Rosa

    You asked “How do you explain….” I did address that with Dori and I’ll repost that here.

    “I’ve come to accept that nearly everything “works” some of the time.

    Remember “Power Balance Bands”? They “worked” for a lot of people, until blinded testing showed that they didn’t.

    Bloodletting was the cutting edge of medicine as it “worked”. But after controlled testing was done it has been abandoned, perhaps with the exception of a few uncommon medical conditions.

    So it doesn’t surprise me that people have found that the Glacier Peak Holistic test “works””

  • aimee

    Will you share their names here so I can contact and learn from them?

  • aimee

    Hi Pitlove,

    I can share with you the information I got from the company regarding the assessment. I too am trying to understand what they call biofeedback.

    Biofeedback involves measuring a physiological response and relaying that information to an individual with the goal of the person learning to control the response being measured. Responses measured are blood pressure, muscle tension, heart rate.

    I do not understand how that term is applied in this situation.

    I asked ” Is there some type of an instrument that measures the energy field generated by the DNA in response to exposing the sample to different triggers” GPH replied “You nailed the description of what it does perfectly!”

    When I asked if they exposed the sample to whole foods or to food extract they replied “The food and environmental items covered on the test are also programmed into a computer program that the biofeedback machine uses to provide the results you see. Some scientist somewhere has mapped the energetic frequency of each item using quantum physics and programmed them to be recognized by the biofeedback machine… The energetic imprint isn’t located “in” the DNA, but it is “attached” to the DNA and easily detectable by the biofeedback machines.

    I asked “In what form is the energetic imprint and how is it attached to the DNA?” they replied”Unfortunately, I can’t answer this question. I just know the programming is done through a computer software program and preset to be specie specific.”

    I asked “If you can provide a technical link to how it is done that would be great! It is fascinating stuff that I hope to understand better.” they replied ” I didn’t have much better luck, but I did find this:”It integrates the sciences of mathematics, quantum physics, fractal dynamics, subspace theory, electronics, and computer programming…..”

    This only lead to more questions… it lead me to William Nelson. I asked if the assessment was based in his ideas and the company didn’t answer. William Nelson sold “biofeedback” machines primarily in the northwest states ( GPH is in Montana)

    I also asked the importance of the requested information on the submission forms GPH replied “I don’t know the importance of the birth date either… neither does Juli or Barb. The person who designed the information sheet no longer works here so I can’t ask her…”

    Traci’s response makes me think this is an integral part of the assessment.. which would be weird then if the rest of the Customer Service people don’t even know why the information is being asked.

    I also, like you, do not understand how “bad intent” can change what was described to me test that uses computer software programmed with “a type of molecular identity.” and as I told Traci there was no “bad intent” when I sent in the control sample.

    Hopefully Traci will explain it further. Hope this helps!

  • aimee

    Hi Traci,

    You wrote: “Please let me know if I have this correct. Your intent was to deceive and discredit the Healthy Dog and Cat Sensitivity Assessment by providing false information.”

    Oh my gosh no! That was not my intent at all!

    I’ve dismissed this test because it isn’t recommended by dermatologists and the reason it isn’t recommended is because it hasn’t been validated. But I also try to keep an open mind and just because something can’t yet be explained doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. So I asked this community how should I validate the test…. no one answered.

    I elected to use a negative control.

    It should have tested negative… it did not. Interestingly though the report is very close to six other report from GPH that I have found posted on line.

    For example in my report all the grains are highlighted in red. In 5 of the six reports I found on line every grain is highlighted red, in the 6th, every grain with the exception of 1 is highlighted in red. And you reported with your report that all grains were reported as sensitivities.

    Six of the six on line reports I found report chicken as a sensitivity. 5 of the 6 report both potato and sweet potato My negative control report was also “positive” for chicken, potato and sweet potato.

    I even looked at what would be an uncommon food exposure: Leek. My negative control sample was positive for Leek as were 4 of the 6 reports I found on line.

    Where we seem to differ is that I evoke the “natural” Something may be interfering with how your device is reading the samples. the plastic, or the labels or the inks in the labels or the components of the swabs or???

    You are invoking an explanation that can neither be confirmed nor tested “bad intent” This seems to be a very odd explanation to me.

    I didn’t provide any false information I just didn’t send any dog DNA which is what I was told was being assessed. In fact your company assured me that the biofeedback device was very specific in this regards so it is surprising to me that you are saying “The biofeedback machine will create a readout on anything that is run through it,” This seems a direct contradiction to “The biofeedback machine is specially programmed for specie type”

    I am most willing to further try to validate the GPH assessment. Is GPH is willing to support the project?

  • LabsRawesome

    Are you claiming to be a scientist? How do you explain the fact that people experience success in finding out their dogs triggers with this test.

  • aimee

    Hi el doctor,

    Thanks for posting the information. You may have noted that the results they sent me carry a disclaimer that he assessment is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

    The company used to market it as an Allergy Test but now it is called assessment. I wonder if the reason they changed names had to do with the FDA

  • Pitlove

    Traci- I’m aware that I could research biofeedback. I asked you to answer my question for a reason. Because I want YOUR answer. Sorry you feel you can not do so.

    Take care.

  • Traci Suzanne Marvel

    Happy New Year Pitlove,

    I pray that 2016 is all you hope it to be and more!

    Respectfully, to answer your question,

    I encourage you to research biofeedback. It is fascinating.

    “Pure logical
    thinking cannot
    yield us any knowledge of the empirical world. All knowledge of reality starts from
    experience and ends in it.”
    ~ Albert Einstein

    Take Good Care,

    Traci ~

  • el doctor

    Hi aimee

    Here is a link to the Amazon page where this test is reviewed. There are 10 positive reviews and 7 critical reviews;

    http://www.amazon.com/Dog-Allergy-Sensitivity-Assessment-Test/product-reviews/B00GGNLRFW/ref=cm_cr_pr_btm_link_1?pageNumber=1

    There is 1 review from a PhD in Biomedical science;

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2EHY03A8HA3SB/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00GGNLRFW

  • aimee

    Hi Shawna,

    My goal, like yours, was to see if this test is a viable option.

    I posted “I don’t necessarily disagree with this statement: “The fact that you
    can’t explain something doesn’t make it any less credible.” ”

    The test isn’t recommended by dermatologists etc because it hasn’t been
    validated and by extension I haven’t recommended it but I do try to keep an open mind and so I set out to validate the
    test.

    As I don’t have a positive control to test I used a negative control.

    I thought one of three things would happen. 1. GPH would contact me saying their biofeedback machine was reporting an error message. 2. The biofeedback machine would run the test and the report would show no sensitivities or 3. I’d get a report showing sensitivities.

    Because this was a negative control sample and I got numerous sensitivites I can’t recommend this test as valid

    I’ve noted a trend and I’ll really have to spend a lot of time to further characterize it. I found several GPH reports posted on line and on first glance they all look to have a lot of commonalities with my report : chicken, turkey egg milk all the grains … It could be that their machine is picking up something common to all these submission either in the plastics they are using for the bag or the cotton swabs or???

    We do agree that an elimination trial is best and I really really do appreciate that though we disagree about the value of this test you discussed this rationally with me.

  • aimee

    Hi LabsRawesome,

    I’m happy to discuss the use of positive and negative controls as part of the scientific method. Scientists do not consider negative or positive controls to be immoral or unethical.

  • Anita C. Carlson

    Try a mixture of apple cider vinager, peroxide and water, if its on his feet just put a cup of each to a gallon of water and have him stand in there to cover his paws this helps with any yeast, staff or bacteria. I have tried it recently on my dog who chews on her feet and makes them raw and this really helped alot. ALSO you can try having them stand in warm water with just a bit of Iodine, to make it look like a weak to med tea, stand in that and it does the same thing. You can mix the vinegar and peroxide with water and put in a spray bottle and spray if on a different part of the body. GOOD LUCK!

  • Pitlove

    Hi there Traci-

    If you don’t mind could you please explain what you mean by this statement:

    “Energetically speaking, bad intent coupled with false information will provide an inaccurate reading.In theory, you got exactly what you paid for.”

    I believe Aimee is correct in saying that a false sample (if the assesment was working correctly) should yield no results at all. Unless I’m not fully understanding what biofeedback is and how it works.

    Thanks in advance for your time.

  • Traci Suzanne Marvel

    Thank you Dog Food Advisor for this wonderful and informative website. I send people here on a daily basis. When I know people are looking for nutritonal foods for their pets, “go to Dog Food Advisor” are the first words out of my mouth. Happy New Year!

    And now to reply to Aimee…

    Hello Aimee,
    Happy New Year to you.

    First off, Glacier Peak Holistics has honorable intentions in everything they do. I happen to know that as a fact because I work there in the
    customer service department.

    I was a customer first before
    working for Glacier Peak Holistics. My poor dog had a rash, runny
    eyes, dry nose and was just miserable. Within a 2 week period of avoiding the foods highlighted in red, my dog’s rash was gone, his eyes were clear and his nose was wet! I am forever grateful to GPH for helping my dog live a quality life without compromising his longevity.

    The best part of my job is reading and listening to the testimonials that come in daily, not only from our retail customers, but from DVM’s across the country, thanking
    us for helping their pet’s and patients live a healthier and happy life.

    Moving on to your experiment.
    I would actually like to thank you for posting this as it opens up a better understanding of how biofeedback works.

    Please let me know if I have this correct. Your intent was to deceive and discredit the Healthy Dog and Cat Sensitivity Assessment by providing false information.

    Energetically speaking, bad intent coupled with false information will provide an inaccurate reading.
    In theory, you got exactly what you paid for.

    The biofeedback machine will create a readout on anything that is run through it, but again it won’t be an accurate reading if there was false information provided.

    Would you consider purchasing an
    Assessment with the intent of helping a dog or cat that is actually
    challenged with “allergy type” symptoms? Would you be willing to
    provide true hair and saliva samples and the correct name, birth place or current residence, birth date, breed, etc.. of an actual pet.? When the results come
    back, would you be willing to to follow the suggested protocol for at least 60 days?

    I think that if you are willing to submit accurate information with good intentions and are willing to follow the suggested protocol for at
    least 60 days you will see a noticeable improvement in the pet.

    After all isn’t that what you would want to see?

    After running almost 10,000
    assessments, we’ve had less than a handful of customers that didn’t see improvement. I don’t know about you, but that’s a lot of “proof”.

    Quantum physics is rarely “prove-able”… I think that’s because mankind hasn’t invented a big enough microscope. Some things just can’t be explained, yet!

    Thank you for your time and attention Aimee.

    May 2016 bring you much Peace and Happiness.

    Cheers to Healthy Pets!

    Traci ~

  • Traci Suzanne Marvel

    I know several vets that do:)

  • Storm’s Mom

    Thanks for clarifying, Dr Mike 🙂

  • I try to not participate in any disputes or disagreements.

    My goal is to answer questions when I see them and they appear to be directed to me (personally).

    Or when someone sends me a personal message on the contact page and calls my attention to it.

    That is what happened tonight. So, without reading the entire thread and seeing only the details of the post, I inadvertently clicked the “up” link.

    When one of our “regulars” called this dispute to my attention and once I realized my mistake, I immediately removed my vote.

    By the way, today, we have already had over 55K guests on our website. And we have served almost 250K pages.

    And many of these guests are here because they’re looking for help feeding their new Christmas puppies.

    And just knowing these visitors are witnessing these rude and unfriendly exchanges has always been a source of embarrassment to me and others who are here to help.

    Please keep your comments friendly and respectful to others. Or take them somewhere else.

  • el doctor

    Hi Dori

    I hope you stay. I appreciate your posts 😉

  • Storm’s Mom

    Hi Dr Mike, I won’t speak for Dori, but what caught my eye about this is that you originally “up voted” both of aimee’s most recent posts (those “up votes” are now gone from both of these posts). Why? I ask because it’s very very rare that you do so (up vote anything, “take sides” if you will) so I have to believe you have a good reason why you did, I just can’t imagine in this case what it is or how you could condone what aimee did. And then, I guess, why un-“up vote”?

  • This is indeed MY website. However, this is the community’s “group”.

    Not mine. Not yours. But everyone’s.

    I created it for everyone who obeys our community rules. And that means every member has the right to share his/her own opinion.

    I’m sorry to hear you have chosen to leave. You’re certainly welcome to return whenever you’d like.

  • Dori

    I honestly cannot imagine any circumstance where I would have stooped so low. I honestly don’t understand any of this. The only circumstance might have been if my son had been in some life or death circumstance. I’m not even sure about that. I am who I am. As I’ve said, I just cannot imagine such deceitful behavior under any circumstance but that’s just me. I suppose others don’t have an issue. No one has to respond. Mike you can delete my post, you can delete all my posts. I’m done. Truly. Thank you Mike for all your help through the years but I can no longer support your group nor recommend it to anyone. You have allowed others to take over your site and that’s truly okay. It’s your baby to do as you wish. I will no longer be a part of it. This is my last post on DFA. For better or worse I cannot abide such behavior and the high school type clicks that are accepted here and you’ve decided to join the click. I’ll be blocking this site and everyone that I’m not personally friends with. Everyone here that is not a personal friend should know that I will not see your responses so you’ll all be wasting your time. C4C I’m glad your cat was helped last year, I truly am. At one point when I first came upon this group it was all about helping us to help our animals. It’s changed in the last year or so. I’m too old, too tired, or whatever to deal with any of this anymore. It does not help me or my animals and that is all I am about. I am all about my animals, my husband, and my friends. Over and out and goodbye. There are some here I will miss, you know who you guys are.

  • LabsRawesome

    That is ALWAYS her goal. It shows what kind of person she is.

  • LabsRawesome

    That is ALWAYS her goal. It just shows what kind of person she is.

  • Shawna

    For the record, I too agree that a “good elimination diet” is the best way to go (and I do believe I’ve stated that in this discussion) but for those that are unwilling to go that route (for whatever reason) I do personally feel the Glacier Peak Holistics test is a viable option.

    Unlike others, my goal, when I first heard of the sensitivity assessment, was not to discredit the company, and anyone suggesting them, but rather to see if they could be a viable option. I can’t prove that the test is accurate but I can honestly say, putting my reputation on the line here, that many people I am familiar with have had wonderful results.

    Based on what I experienced with my very own dog and the experiences of others since I’ve started suggesting it, others who had a vested interest in the test working or not, I would and will continue to suggest it when the situation fits.

  • LabsRawesome

    It is shameful that you have no morals, or ethics And you lie. Don’t blame your actions on what you perceive a company does. You are responsible for your actions.

  • aimee

    It is shameful isn’t it, that a company is taking people’s hard earned money for inaccurate results.

  • LabsRawesome

    Oh what a tangled web you weave……Shameful.

  • LabsRawesome

    Oh what a tangled web you weave…… Shameful

  • Bobby dog

    Thank you C4c!!! Right back at you!! I don’t think anyone could have written that reply better!! I couldn’t agree more, taking sides is ridiculous. Caring for and enriching our pet’s lives are our common goals after all!!

  • Crazy4cats

    Dori-
    I have gotten a lot of valuable and helpful information from regular contributors on this site as well. Especially, from both Shawna and Aimee. They were both very kind and helpful to me when I came aboard with my dogs’ parasite and digestive issues. With their help, and of course DF and BC as well, (and probably many others) my dogs are rid of parasites and their tummies are healing. But….I’m still very skeptical about this sensitivity assessment. It just doesn’t make sense to me and probably would not recommend it to anyone. I’m glad it worked for you. Just because Shawna endorses this, doesn’t mean that I don’t appreciate the other advice and knowledge she has to share.

    BDog helped me through a terrible crisis with one of my cats last year who almost died. She is full of valuable information as well. She has a lot education and experience with several different types of pets and is also a very kind person.

    I hate the fact that people think that they have to side with one or the other. Why can’t we just decipher which methods work best for us in whatever situation we find our pets in?

  • Dori

    I agree with your statement as I too have learned more about dogs by observing them also in my 67 years but it was not until Katie, our dog with multiple allergies came into our lives at the age of 9 weeks old riddled with allergies and other medical issues, that I found Dr. Mike’s group and started my education on raw feeding as an alternative to kibble and canned. I lurked on the site for a couple of years reading what others were doing and how they were dealing with differing issues. At the same time I spent those years and time before find DFA schooling myself on canine allergies, elimination diets. I had already taken her to her own vet many times for the same issue, a dermatologist/allergist and she’d been on differing meds none of which helped her at all. I know a lot about allergies already because I have many allergies and autoimmune illnesses (2) but I had no idea that dogs even got allergies. I actually never gave it any thought since the issue had never come up. Though I’ve figured out through elimination, I decided to do the Hemopet test to see if anything else showed up that I didn’t know about and frankly it was more of a curiosity. I’d already spent thousands on Katie so what was a bit more. I didn’t learn anything more than what I had already eliminated from her diet. Then, I guess it was a few months ago by now, I learned of the Glacier Holistic Peaks test on a raw feeding group and thought what the heck, in for a penny in for a pound and as it was only $85.00 my curiosity got the better of me. Did the test, got all the results that I had expected because I had already eliminated everything on the test with the exception of one item and that was cucumbers. Never ever occurred to me that cucumbers could be an issue. I give the dogs a taste when I’m snacking on cucumbers and had not put it together that occasionally Katie would be a little itchy but not for long as I didn’t give them much or that often. I since stopped giving Katie cucumbers and she hasn’t been itchy since. Anyway, I was not attempting to get into an argument on this issue I was merely passing along my experience with canine allergies and elimination and testing as it related to my dog, Katie, solely.

  • Bobby dog

    I have been in your place. It takes a little time, but mostly perseverance and focus on maintenance once everything is under control. The infections wreak havoc on our poor guys. I didn’t have to do an elimination diet, but I think you’ll both be on the way to better things soon!

  • Amy

    Okay so i have a chihuahua that has had issues for the past two years, her symptoms include a very red raw throat, foam in her throat and inflammation. The local vet has tried everything, antibiotics, steroids, zyrtec you name it we have tried it. Changed foods, tried home-made food. Last month we took her to a specialist and they did an endoscopy, they diagnosed her with acid reflux and put her on medication. She was good for about 3 weeks and now she is back to the same issues. We are taking her back to the specialist next week. Has anyone seen anything like this?

  • Pitlove

    I’m very happy we went with the prescription food and did the trial for real. So far I’m seeing great improvements.

  • Pitlove

    Thank you! I hope so.

  • Pitlove

    I was disappointed as well. He was doing really well. When the symptoms came
    back with more yeast and some secondary infections I was ready to do anything to help him. I’m glad I went with the elimination diet.

  • Crazy4cats

    PL-
    Sorry to hear Bentley is having issues again. Hope this trial gets you the information you need.

  • el doctor

    Hi Dori

    Even though I have a PhD in Animal Ethics, I have learned more about dogs by simply observing them, than in 7 years of post graduate education!

  • el doctor

    “But, he is a very intelligent dog.”

    Thank goodness one of you is 😉

  • Bobby dog

    You crack me up. The holidays must get to you, if I remember right you were up to your usual shenanigans this time last year. It was a joke on what I believe was a typo. But, he is a very intelligent dog.

    It is disturbing that you keep track of my up votes. Whatever floats your boat. 😉

  • el doctor

    Hi Dori

    You said;

    “Not aimee, Bobby dog, but understand why you always up vote aimee as your schooling and learning probably comes mostly from Bobby dog and I get that.”

    At first, she denies that her education came mostly from Bobby dog;

    “For the record my education comes from many diverse places not just the Internet or people that frequent forums.”

    Then she says her education DOES come mostly from Bobby dog;

    “Edit: My “schooling and learning probably comes mostly from Bobby dog” you are correct in that regard, he is a wealth of information! ;)”

    Anyway, it might not be clear where her education comes from, but you’re right that she “always up vote(s) aimee.”

  • aimee

    Hi Dori,

    My results said “However, just changing their diet may not be enough. We offer the following herbal remedies that may help you help your pet get back into balance” and then there was 3 pages of information on their recommended supplements and how to use them.

    I don’t know that they’ll contact me ever again in regards to purchasing.. guess time will tell …but selling supplements certainly seems to be part of their mission.

  • aimee

    I stand corrected!

    Appears to me as lots of verbiage that is used to fly under the radar of the authorities.

  • el doctor

    You wrote both of these in the same post;

    “For the record my education comes from many diverse places not just the Internet or people that frequent forums.”

    AND

    “Edit: My “schooling and learning probably comes mostly from Bobby dog” you are correct in that regard, he is a wealth of information!”

    Hmmmmmmm 😉

  • aimee

    Hi el doctor,

    I don’t know that anyone would publish it and I can’t say that I blame them if they didn’t want to. GPH could respond back that I sent hair and saliva and I only want to disparage them. It would be a he said/ she said situation.

    I took a chance by sending back their own cotton fiber as my hair sample. I was afraid I’d get caught lol

    I did have an e mail conversation with GHP in which I verified that they would not be taking the sample out of the bag.. and I told them my dog is a hairless so would have a very small amount of hair. Still I was a bit nervous that the rouse would be discovered.

    I would have sent this long ago as I had the test kit, but I got “cold feet” when Shawna revealed that she had ties to the company. I was afraid that if I further discussed what I was going to do she might tip them off that a “blank” sample was coming in. Now maybe she wouldn’t and she would have interest in what it would come back as but it is why I delayed before sending it.

    Anyway, I found the results very enlightening and if they keep someone from wasting their money on this “test” it was well worth the 80 bucks.

  • Bobby dog

    Ahem, sensitivity assessment. 😉

  • Bobby dog

    Hi Pitlove:
    Wow, you are doing a 180. I think you are going to get some answers rather quickly when you get to the re-challenge part of the elimination. Good luck!

  • aimee

    Awesome! Yes! You are far better off putting your funds towards a good elimination diet than spending money on this “test”

  • Pitlove

    Very interesting! Thanks for doing this and sharing your findings. I thought about this test, but eventually decided to go ahead and finally do a true elimination trial with Bentley prescription food and all. So far he’s responding very well to the food!

  • Bobby dog

    Dori:
    My error, “Sensitivity Assessment.” lol I don’t know if I should be flattered or disturbed by you checking on my up votes.

    I am far from cynical and look into many options for health related issues. I have not shared much information on my education other than the mention of a few classes, so not sure why you mention or came to any conclusions about “schooling.” For the record my education comes from many diverse places not just the Internet or people that frequent forums.

    My communication with GPH and other companies around the world that offer this test was different. They were all very proud that they offered remedies to accompany the results of their tests. Matter of fact GPH wrote to me THEY MADE NO APOLOGIES FOR OFFERING REMEDIES with their assessment results because it helped pets. I didn’t even purchase the test before they gave me their sales pitch.

    I have looked into many of these tests and magic cures dealing with an autoimmune disease. I have found over the years they are either very cheap, then they up sale you with potions or are extremely expensive because they are truly a miracle cure according to the sales pitch. I have found the most telling of a company’s virtue is whether or not they go from state to state setting up businesses or in the case of one of the inventors of a “Sensitivity Assessment” machine they have to leave the country to set up shop because of legal issues regarding their machine.

  • Dori

    Not aimee, Bobby dog, but understand why you always up vote aimee as your schooling and learning probably comes mostly from Bobby dog and I get that. My education came early on from Shawna, Marie, and many others. I choose to take a second here as I am one of the ones that eventually tried the Glacier saliva and hair test and have been very pleased with it. As most know, by the time I did it I already knew Katie’s issues. I wanted to chime in on what you refer to as the “sensitivity test” and I will tell you that they did NOT suggest or even RECOMMEND that I purchase anything from them or anyone else. It was a saliva and hair test. Got the results, called to go over the test results for Katie and that was the end of it. Never heard from them again attempting to sell me anything. Believe it or not, there are some companies out there that are a bit more helpful than others and that comes from me, a truly cynical person. Usually I believe that some one in the market place is attempting to swindle others or make some money off of me. I was incredibly surprised, or rather shocked, that they didn’t try to sell me anything even though I thought that would be their bottom line. When they didn’t I truly expected to hear from them again trying to sell me something. They never did. I’m still cynical me but I was somewhat pleasantly or shockingly surprised.

  • el doctor

    Hi aimee

    Thank you for doing this!!!

    You should contact the Whole Dog Journal, your “friend” Susan Thixton, Dogs Naturally Magazine, Dr Karen Becker, and anyone else you can think of. I wonder if they’ll publish the results or not.

    If you’d rather not, then I would be happy to submit your report and see what happens 😉

    Thanks again!

  • Bobby dog

    Thanks, I see now. Very convenient that they are bundled!!

    I skipped the first page and only looked at the result pages. I am more familiar with them as I found similar results posted by people on other websites when I looked into this test a few months back.

    At least you can place your IV bag in a room away from cell phones, computers, T.V.’s, stereos…

  • aimee

    Hi Bobbie,

    The recommended supplements are listed on the page with the probable concerns.

    Except for one that I can’t find on their website I need all of them!

    Thanks goodness most of them are in a bundle that is on sale. Individually I’d be well over 200.00. I need the Bach custom flower remedies too. That is another 70.00. I wonder if they saved the samples or if I have to resubmit.

    I’m just not sure how to administer all of these to an IV bag…

  • Bobby dog

    Now for the money making part of their “sensitivity test,” how many supplements did they recommend you buy from them?

  • aimee

    The results from my Glacier Peak Holistics Alternative Sensitivity Assessment Test are in!!!

    I proposed a control test “If I send saline and fake fur in what type of report would you expect to come back?
    I’m willing to throw some bucks at this to test the test. How do you think I should test it?”

    No one chimed in with any recommendations as to how I should run this control test. I initially was going to send in fake fur but then decided not to so as not to add any confounding variables.

    This is what I did. I put on a new pair of gloves and prepared the sample in a pet free home. I used a flame sterilized tweezers to pull off fibers from one end of a cotton swab they sent to me. These cotton fibers were placed into the bag and sent in as the “hair” sample.

    For “saliva” I used a sterile syringe to remove sterile fluid from a brand new IV fluid bag. (I got these items from the vet office. In exchange I am to turn over the results to the vet.) The fluid was dripped onto the swab. Samples were packed according to instructions.

    The company reported to me that they use a biofeedback machine to detect an energetic imprint attached to the dog’s DNA. Since I didn’t send any dog DNA there were no “energetic imprints” to detect and the results should not have shown any “sensitivities”

    BUT my report is lit up like a Christmas tree with numerous sensitivities and my sterile electrolyte solution was reported to have yeast, bacterial, viral, inflammatory and emotional concerns too!

    Based on these results I have to conclude that the Glacier Peak Holistics test is not valid.

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  • Ellie

    You could go the trial and error method but you and your dog would be much better off just to get the allergy testing done and get it over with. Processed foods are not good for anyone. I found a good commercial brand like Stella & Chewy’s or making my own raw mixture to be much better than feeding the highly processed kibble that has a list of ingredients a mile long PLUS the synthetic vitamins that are usually processed in China.
    Processed pet food is cooked a very high temperatures at least 3 times in order to kill bacteria and obtain the consistency that the company needs for long shelf life (many times foods can sit for a year) It is not real food! They then add all those synthetic vitamins in an attempt to replace the natural nutrients killed off during the cooking process.
    It is no wonder their teeth go bad at such an early age and they end up with allergies.

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