Best Raw Dog Foods

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A raw dog food diet is designed to mimic a dog’s natural ancestral menu. The whole concept of raw feeding is based upon a dog’s instinctive carnivorous bias — a built-in desire to capture (or find) and eat another animal.
Wolf with Raw Food

As unsavory as it may seem, it is completely natural for a wolf to consume the entire animal.

Meat, bones, organs and all.

As direct descendants of wolves, dogs are simply not genetically optimized to consume the 50% carbohydrate content of today’s commercial kibbles.

So, how do these diets compare?

The Ancestral Diet
Compared to Dry Kibble

No one can argue the dry baked pellets we call dog food aren’t convenient. Yet the nutrient profile of a dry kibble is nowhere near the nutrient content of a dog’s ancestral diet.

Canine Ancestral Diet versus Dry Dog Food

Notice the higher carbohydrate content of the kibble compared to the dog’s natural ancestral diet. Or how about the dramatically lower protein and fat levels?

The Benefits of a Raw Diet

Feeding a raw dog food diet has many notable benefits

  • Firmer stools
  • Improved digestion
  • Healthier skin and coat
  • Reduced allergy symptoms
  • Better weight management

There have been many reports of improved health when chronically ill pets were switched from a commercial product to a raw dog food.

The Downside
of a Raw Dog Food Diet

A raw dog food diet can’t touch the convenience of a kibble. Just measure and pour. It just doesn’t get any easier.

Yet besides the lack of convenience, there’s another critical issue. Bacterial contamination.

Salmonella and E. coli germs can always be a potential problem with raw meats. Yet the risk of food-borne disease is actually quite low.

That is, low risk for dogs. But not for humans.

That’s because a dog’s digestive system is shorter and more acidic.

Which makes canine infections like these fairly rare.

The real risk of food-borne disease is actually greater for a dog’s human caretakers — not the dog.

Yet with proper care and handling, this risk can be dramatically reduced.

How to Use Our List

Below you’ll find a list of the Advisor’s suggested raw dog foods. Of course, this list should not be considered a complete catalog of all the raw dog foods on the market.

For there are others. Many others.

We only provide this small group as a starting point.

As a matter of fact, if you know of a specific dog food you believe we should have included on this list, please feel free to share your recommendations in the Comments section below.

Or if you’re looking for some suggestions yourself, be sure to look through our readers’ Comments to find more good ideas.

Suggested Raw Dog Foods

  • Kennan Ross Gilbert

    Feeding my dogs RAW is the best thing I’ve ever done for my dogs, in my opinion!!

  • Crazy4cats

    Oh, if only I had a nickle for every time someone said that!!! 😀

  • Cannoli

    maybe if Seattle ran the ball on 2nd and goal they would have won their 2nd superbowl.

    instead they tried to get all clever and fancy against one of the greatest coaches.

    heck even during halftime while watching the Puppy Bowl even the handlers knew to run the ball on 2nd and goal. Pete Carrol should have sought advice from the Puppy Bowl coaches

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, what Antonio said, Brady is primarily a passing QB. He just takes a few steps back and fires! Doesn’t run much or take many hits. Plus, he’s a whiner and a cheater!! LOL!! This is coming from a disgruntled Seahawks fan!! :):):)
    But, he is in excellent shape and health. I’m gonna have to look for avacado ice cream. Sounds interesting.

  • Shawna

    I gave homemade avocado pudding a go. It was edible but I only made it once. 🙂 love avocados though.

  • Cannoli

    so very true and appreciate your kind words

  • Antonio Fisher

    Do your best effort at prevention and enjoy your quality of life. Nothing is ever guaranteed good or bad. Make the most of the moment.

  • Cannoli

    beautiful looking dog my family had dobermans. most had health issues later in life. None of the dobermans we had were ever exercised and were fed kibble. genetics maybe.

    colon cancer runs in my family. all males except me have gotten it. most got them around my age. all the males in my family except for me never exercised and ate processed food. will I get it. maybe not

  • Cannoli

    i agree with that but may i add exercise will help your dog maintain both a healthy body and a stable mind.

  • Antonio Fisher

    Here’s my 9 year old Doberman, so far not a gray hair on his body and I assure you he’s not eating what most would consider the best feed but I have found it works for him and my other two dogs quite well http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5a1bf142ca45f466834b11a0f4d505dceae04221687ebc873f1ad8bb48e09974.jpg

  • Antonio Fisher

    Remember when DogChow did the study on a litter of puppies and started marketing dogs living healthier longer eating dog chow. Well truthfully, good genes, healthy weight and regular vet check ups are a good start for having a healthy dog stay with you for many years.

  • Antonio Fisher

    Sooo the fact that Chad Johnson and T. Brady would have MULTIPLE DNA and lifestyle differences culminated with the fact that QB in the NFL is a HIGHLY protective position while WR was not during the pinnacle of C. Johnson’s career. But I think what is being missed is that I didn’t say a good diet doesn’t help I was simply trying to explain that genetics will nearly always show up regardless and there isn’t a feed on the market that I am aware of that will guarantee against preventing genetic predispositions

  • Cannoli

    It’s genetics but that doesn’t mean you can stop trying to eat more unprocessed healthy food.

    Look at this baseline instead. 2 genetically superior athletes in NFL. Both genetically gifted. Both studied the sport immensly and trained beyond belief. One ate fast food for most of his career the other ate unpoccessed nutritious organic food. Tom Brady still plays while Chad ” Ochinco” Johnson retired. Chad’s body broke down.

    At the end you can’t convince Tom Brady that his diet did not help him prolong his career.

    This is the QB who is convincing everyone to eat avacodo ice cream. Yuck. Ha but he loves minimally processed food

  • Storm’s Mom

    “You have made a preconceived attempt at diagnosing my personality type” – ??? I can assure you that there was nothing preconceived about any “attempt” you think I’ve made, as I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Because I said “That speaks more about you than her”? I suppose I was “diagnosing” your actions based on what I saw/observed ..certainly not your personality (which I know absolutely nothing about). Apologies, at any rate.

  • Antonio Fisher

    I appreciate that you have made a preconceived attempt at diagnosing my personality type, however I felt the conversation was headed down an endless trail and didn’t want it to take that direction. No disrespect to Shawna we’ve had conversations and emails exchanged in the past. She’s firm on her opinion and likewise so am I. Trial and error has been my guide and I have a formula and routine that yields the desired results for my dogs at this time. Should I have a need to make adjustments I definitely will look at alternatives to the way I currently do things.

  • Storm’s Mom

    I was just pointing out an interesting irony of what you said. You do realize that aimee has a long history on here of going down all sorts of rabbit holes for a prolonged period of time, yes? “Online allegiances” or whatever have nothing to do with it…it’s just what happened/happens (to many people on here from time to time..it’s a discussion board, these things happen. Shawna was attempting to have a discussion with you..you shot her down. That speaks more about you than her.)

  • Antonio Fisher

    LOL at forming online allegiances and allies. I just agree and side more with Aimee’s views and opinions the same way you all have your own views and opinions. My philosophy and trial and error findings over the years tend to align more with aimee’s info.

  • LabsRawesome

    It’s called genetics. And the vegan probably died of malnutrition.

  • Storm’s Mom

    And yet you appear to be good friends with aimee, who is probably the most guilty of anyone on DFA of trying to get people into “drawn out opinionated” debates on here. Interesting!!!!

  • Antonio Fisher

    Shawna as I said previously I’d rather avoid getting into a long drawn out opinionated debate on pet food. Feed what you will and best of luck for you and your pets.

  • Shawna

    “A genetic predisposition (sometimes also called genetic susceptibility) is an increased likelihood of developing a particular disease based on a person’s genetic makeup. A genetic predisposition results from specific genetic variations that are often inherited from a parent. These genetic changes contribute to the development of a disease but do not directly cause it. Some people with a predisposing genetic variation will never get the disease while others will, even within the same family.” Bolded emphasis mine https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/primer/mutationsanddisorders/predisposition

    What’s the variable — the environment, which includes diet. Blaming disease on genes alone is a cop out.

    Considering this is a discussion forum, it would be reasonable to conclude that discussions are going to happen. What you consider “blown out of proportion” (which is an opinion) may be considered the normal progression of a discussion by someone else. Let’s not forget that you brought cancer into the discussion.

  • Pitlove

    Well said C4c!! It’s pathetic!!

  • Crazy4cats

    Yes, I did judge you, but not for what or how you feed your dogs, but how you treat people on this site. Time after time, name after name, you come back to bully and harass. It is just plain wrong!

  • Antonio Fisher

    Environment can definitely have damaging effects on lifespan but some people are genetically predisposed of certain diseases. Why do topics nearly always get blown out of proportion on DFA now days?

  • Antonio Fisher

    Explain why one person can smoke and live 100 years and a vegan drop dead at 25? “Surely you have heard of such a case”?

  • Shawna

    “But genetics took this dog”

    Genetics doesn’t cause cancer. Surely you must know that?

  • Antonio Fisher

    I have a coworker who’s upset that he loss his Golden to cancer after spending a small fortune on a specific unnamed brand that promises your dog will be so much more healthier and happy for choosing them. But genetics took this dog in a similar fashion that it’s litter mates died while eating various brands.

  • aimee

    Unfortunately that is so true.

  • Antonio Fisher

    Definitely no shortage of cuteness there. Adorable pup

  • Antonio Fisher

    Kudos, there is so much misinformation out there about pet food now days that having people to keep checks and balances on the misinformation and near illegal marketing practices would take a lifetime to undo.

  • aimee

    I’ve been well and the dogs are well. I continue to try to make small inroads into debunking misinformation.

    I reported Grandma Lucy’s to my feed control official and a stop order was placed on the food. The company had to correct the misinformation before allowed to sell their products. I was most pleased that after reporting them the company removed their recommendation to use their products for kidney patients as the product was not appropriate for that use.

    As a result of my inquiries to The Honest Kitchen misinformation has been removed from that site as well.

    I sent in a negative control sample (IV solution in place of saliva and shreds to their cotton swab as hair) to Glacier Peaks hair and saliva test and received back a report outlining my “dog’s’ numerous “sensitivities” and which products I should use to improve “his” health.

    Right after alerting the company to the negative control results the company removed the test from the market and relaunched it under a new name and now requires you to sign some type of liability statement or they won’t run your sample.

    Since then I found that at this years International Dermatology meeting Immune IQ was put to a similar test and found to be unreliable. The authors used tap water and fake fur for their negative control sample.

    Baby steps, baby steps, but have to start someplace!

  • Antonio Fisher

    Amy yes it has been awhile, been busy with work as usual and still training. Still amazes me how I get so many healthy years out of my aging pack eating these inferior kibbles lol. How have you been.

  • GSDsForever

    Amen!

  • bojangles

    Hi Crazy4cats,

    “Personal attacks and judging people and how much they love their dogs by what they feed them bothers me a lot”

    Then why did you personally attack and judge me?

    “Maybe you should find a group that is committed to feeding home made to
    socialize with and then us pitiful kibble feeders won’t make you so
    crazy”

  • Crazy4cats

    “You guys” hating Purina does not bother me one bit. I’m not a big fan of some of it either. Personal attacks and judging people and how much they love their dogs by what they feed them bothers me a lot.

  • bojangles

    Hi Crazy4cats,

    “Maybe you should find a group that is committed to feeding home made to
    socialize with and then us pitiful kibble feeders won’t make you so
    crazy”

    How would you like it if someone suggested that you, aimee, and Bobby dog should find a group that is committed to feeding Purina to socialize with and then us pitiful Purina haters wouldn’t make you so
    crazy? 🙂

  • Shawna

    This interesting little tidbit recently was released in a Dog Naturally Magazine article.

    FDA CORE Network report
    “Canine Gastrointestinal Illness/Beneful® Dog Food (suspect)/ML/Jan 2013”

    CORE’s “involvement” ended in 2013 due to “not enough evidence to support Beneful® dry dog food as the source of the reported gastrointestinal illnesses.” At the end of the document their wording is a little different “at that time, it was uncertain if Beneful® dry dog food was the source of the reported canine gastrointestinal illnesses.”

    However, they did find problems with the tested Beneful foods. This speaks volumes about their “quality control” in my opinion. Bolded emphasis mine
    “Beneful®-related consumer complaints received from March 2011 through February 2013, and initiated an investigation at three Nestle Purina manufacturing facilities. Laboratory analyses of samples collected during the field investigations revealed six violations regarding labeling for ethoxyquin, as well as elevated levels of two melamine analogs in six other samples.” http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CVM/CVMFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/UCM490009.pdf

  • Crazy4cats

    Don’t forget that this is a site that is dedicated to rating commercially prepared dog food, predominantly kibble. I agree that a home made diet may be great for some, but I bet there are a very very small percentage of dog owners that are able or willing to. Maybe you should find a group that is committed to feeding home made to socialize with and then us pitiful kibble feeders won’t make you so crazy.

  • Shawna

    They don’t, can’t actually, test for everything.. Hence antibiotics not approved in the US in chicken treats. What else ate they missing?

  • Crazy4dogs

    I guess we agree in different ways, if you think we are agreeing on this point. I find adding poor ingredients and the tested vitamin pack to produce a finished product that meets the complete and balanced AAFCO definitions is not my choice of providing low cost food.

  • Crazy4dogs

    It is true that different people enjoy different types of work. I’ve done the canning, bread making, etc. in the past. I find it to be too much work. Since we are not living on the frontier, the small amounts of bread we use can be easily purchased from bakeries that don’t use all the chemical additives of the larger commercial companies.

    I do grow a lot of my own produce and mostly use it fresh or freeze what is able to be frozen. Personally I prefer the taste of the frozen vegetables to the canned version, if that’s the only option. But, of course, to each his own.

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    “t is a different type to work. (home cooking for yourself, and not your dogs) Harvesting what was planted and preserving it are projects that are different from day to day meal preparation. Engaging in that type of work makes me feel connected to the earth”

    It’s very sad, and very telling, that making preserves makes you feel “connected to the earth”.

    Yet cooking for your dogs, makes you feel connected to nothing, so you feed them Purina.

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    “For example I hate cooking. Absolutely hate the whole process from shopping for ingredients to the actual cooking to the cleaning up Blech 😛 My husband does the vast majority of all the shopping, the cooking, and the cleaning up… but he isn’t about to cook for the dogs”

    If we were going for accuracy here, we would have to say that you only hate cooking when it’s for your dogs. Because you have no problem cooking for yourself:

    “So many fruits and vegetables contain sucrose and great grandma’ss(sic) recipes that i use for making rolls and pancakes use small amounts of sugar. I add a bit to the pizza crust dough. After I mix the yeast with water I add a touch of sugar to “get them going” a hold over tip from a microbiologist whose kids I watched when I was young. I know the preserves I put up have sucrose in them”

    In aimee’s house it’s homemade: pizza crust, preserves, rolls, pancakes, etc, for the people.

    And for the dogs, it’s Purina.

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    The only thing I have ever promoted on the Dog Food Advisor is a balanced, dog appropriate, fresh, whole food, home made diet.

    You Promote Purina.

  • aimee

    Hi bojangles,

    You inadvertently left out the part about you having to walk uphill many miles, barefoot, in the snow, battling 60 MPH winds in order to procure the meat for your dogs who have no nutritional need for meat to thrive.

    You seemed to have missed the part in which i stated that ” I feel that I’m not compromising their health in any way by using a combination of fresh and commercial foods.” and “If it was medically necessary to cook for them I would”. Also “ethically I believe that utilizing the by
    products from human food processing is the right thing to do in regards
    to feeding my animal companions.”.

    Just like you I take full responsibility for my dogs’ total well being and never compromise their health. Currently I don’t find it necessary to home cook every meal for my dog
    and you do. We will just have to agree to disagree on that topic.

    I must say that I suspected that the sole purpose you had for asking why I incorporate kibble
    into my dogs’ diet was so that you could attack me. Because your intent was solely to bully I’ll no longer be responding to any inquiries from you.

    P.S. I find it interesting that as an “ethical vegan” you promote a company that sources meat from an establishment that raises hogs for canned hunting. Not to mention that when a veterinarian noted the connection between their foods and feline paralysis the company’s first response was to send a team of lawyers to threaten her with litigation.

  • aimee

    Absolutely can’t agree more!! That is exactly why I advocate to purchase low cost products from companies that invest in the products they make; from initial ingredient testing all the way through to the testing of finished product,

    It is frightening how little quality control some companies are doing and it isn’t just the low cost products where it can be seen that the quality is really poor.

  • aimee

    It is a different type to work. Harvesting what was planted and preserving it are projects that are different from day to day meal preparation. Engaging in that type of work makes me feel connected to the earth.

    I enjoy kneading dough and the smell of fresh made bread. For pizza I’d do the crust and hubby did the rest. But we haven’t made pizza for a long time now.

    You enjoy cooking but said you don’t think you’d be putting up preserves or making breads from scratch. You are like my hubby in those respects. He loves cooking but has never made bread and he disappears when I’ve made preserves or had beans to process.

    Different people enjoy different types of work.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi aimee,

    While I agree with you and understand that many people would prefer to have premade dog food as opposed to making home prepared meals for dogs, I’m confused by this post regarding your hating cooking:

    “For example I hate cooking. Absolutely hate the whole process from shopping for ingredients to the actual cooking to the cleaning up Blech 😛 My husband does the vast majority of all the shopping, the cooking, and the cleaning up… but he isn’t about to cook for the dogs.”

    Several days ago you were remarking about making homemade rolls, pancakes and even your own pizza crust and preserves:

    “So many fruits and vegetables contain sucrose and great grandma’ss(sic) recipes that i use for making rolls and pancakes use small amounts of sugar. I add a bit to the pizza crust dough. After I mix the yeast with water I add a touch of sugar to “get them going” a hold over tip from a microbiologist whose kids I watched when I was young. I know the preserves I put up have sucrose in them….”

    That’s a lot of work for someone who hates cooking. I like cooking, but I’m not sure I’d be putting up preserves and making rolls and pizza from scratch. We don’t eat pancakes often. They’re easy to make, just too much sugar and not enough nutrtition. 😉

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    “For example I hate cooking. Absolutely hate the whole process from
    shopping for ingredients to the actual cooking to the cleaning up Blech
    😛 My husband does the vast majority of all the shopping, the cooking,
    and the cleaning up… but he isn’t about to cook for the dogs”

    I also dislike shopping, cooking and cleaning up after meals, but unlike you I would never use that as an excuse for not cooking for my dogs.

    And I would never use my spouse as an excuse either.

    I’m a vegan for ethical reasons, but because my dogs are members of my family who are not vegans, I go shopping for their meat twice a week, I cook their meals for them that include meat, and I clean up afterwards.

    I don’t use my being an ethical vegan as an excuse for depriving my dogs of a fresh, balanced, minimally processed whole food diet.

    Nor do I use my dislike of cooking, cleaning and shopping as an excuse.

    And I would never blame my spouse either.

    Thank you for replying honestly to my question 🙂

  • aimee

    Hi bojangles,

    My dogs eat a variety of foods and Purina products are incorporated into their overall diet.The majority of their caloric intake is from commercial foods primarily for personal reasons.

    For example I hate cooking. Absolutely hate the whole process from shopping for ingredients to the actual cooking to the cleaning up Blech 😛 My husband does the vast majority of all the shopping, the cooking, and the cleaning up… but he isn’t about to cook for the dogs.

    If it was medically necessary to cook for them i would but I feel that I’m not compromising their health in any way by using a combination of fresh and commercial foods.

    And as I previously posted ethically I believe that utilizing the by products from human food processing is the right thing to do in regards to feeding my animal companions.

    .

  • Crazy4dogs

    Consumers that need low cost products shouldn’t be automatically forced to accept low quality as part of the low cost.

  • Marcia Byers

    Hello everyone! I’m curious if I could get some insights on feeding raw… OK so to make a very long story short… I started duke on a PMR diet last year, he did fantastic on it.. his digestive system was on track, and that was our main problem with Duke, he has IBD… anyhow about 6 months ago I made a big mistake, and found myself getting too busy with life, and found myself scrambling around to make dukes meals for the month… poor excuse I know, I put him back on a high quality kibble, and have regretted my choice..his stomach went back to being a mess.., switched kibble after kibble, vet trip after vet trip ..and $$$ three weeks ago I started back into research mode and found a company here in Ontario called big country raw… we have been two weeks on their chicken formula… one day after feeding duke this premade raw his poops went from cow pies to these amazing little turds! I’m so happy… I know PMR is a better choice, but I can’t help but think this is my best option.. it’s been a treat to just scoop in his bowl and be done with it, and knowing that I’m doing it somewhat right, I mean last year I felt like I didn’t add enough organ meat, didn’t have the right bone content or enough meat, I look at the straight forward ingredients and I think it’s all there no second guessing.. so here are my questions… will a premade raw diet be effective for long term, is it sustainable? Big country has many different formulas, and proteins. Has anyone heard good things about said company? Their staff seem helpful and prices aren’t so bad..also Duke needs to put on weight, he is a rather skinny dog…is there anything I should be adding to his diet? Sorry for the novel… just need some insights… hope it’s OK to post this here.

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    I don’t have any questions for Purina, thank you. I do have a question for you though:

    “Why do you feed your dogs Purina when you clearly have the knowledge and time to feed them a much higher quality, appropriate and less processed 100% home made diet?

    You clearly spend a lot of time promoting Purina on DFA and doing a ton of research on canine nutrition. Time that if you chose to, could be spent on preparing your dogs a truly holistic, whole food, human grade and much healthier home made diet.

  • aimee

    Thanks Antonio! So good to hear from you.

  • Antonio Fisher

    I couldn’t have said it any better.

  • Pitlove

    If you want to do a homecooked diet by yourself I would recommend looking at BalanceIt.com.

  • joshua

    I will look into it thanks. But wouldn’t mind preparing myself to save some cash looking for a good recipe or just ingredients for a very active dog

  • Melissa Smith

    Sojo’s ???

  • aimee

    Eating is always risky, there are no guarantees. i like many others have chosen to incorporate commercial products into my dog’s diet.

    It is important to me to choose products from a company that invests in the products they make vs one that does not.

    If you have questions about any particular product Purina makes than I suggest you ask Purina as I do not work for them and can not speak for them.

    There is consumer demand for low cost products

  • Pitlove

    Since you are posting on the best raw foods thread, I’m assuming you are considering a raw diet? If so and looking for a commercially prepared raw diet, I would chose a company that uses HPP for their poultry. I’m using Stella & Chewy’s Chicken Dinner right now as a topper for both my dogs. They love it and I find it looks more like real meat than other raw brands I’ve used. Just as a warning though, commercial raw can be expensive for us big dog owners!

  • joshua

    I need to start feeding my dog better he is a mix of boxer and pit so I was told.he has high energy and chases along side of are quads daily he runs past exhaustion and is skinny pritty much no body fat but good muscle tone so I’m seeking the perfect diet for him he is about 90 lb and 4yr old he’s been on dry food but he deserves better and I’m worried about his body fat what would be the best direction for me recipe wise

  • bojangles

    Hi aimee,

    Purina is one of the companies that fits ALL of your criteria for picking a dog food AND they have full time Veterinary and/or PhD nutritionists on staff.

    I believe you think that having a full time nutritionist on staff is a good thing right? I mean a Veterinary nutritionist knows nutrition for dogs. If so, then why does a company like Purina with all their science and research and nutritionists, produce foods like these for dogs?

    Alpo come and get it Ingredients:
    Ground yellow corn, corn germ meal, beef
    and bone meal, soybean meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of Vitamin E), pork and bone meal, egg and
    chicken flavor, animal digest, corn gluten meal, salt, potassium chloride, dried peas, Yellow 6, Red 40, choline chloride, Yellow 5,
    natural grill flavor

    Alpo Chop House Ingredients:
    Water sufficient for processing, chicken, liver, wheat gluten, soy flour, meat by-products, corn starch-modified, added color, natural rotisserie chicken flavor, natural flavors

    Beggin Strips
    Ground wheat, corn gluten meal, wheat flour, water, glycerin, ground yellow corn, sugar, soybean meal, bacon (preserved with sodium nitrite), salt, bacon fat (preserved with BHA and citric acid),

    And let’s not forget that Purina makes the infamous Waggin’ Train Jerky Treats and Canyon Creek Ranch Jerky Treats that have been blamed for how many dog deaths and kidney failures is it now, 100, 1,000, 10,000?

    My point is that having a nutritionist on staff guarantees the consumer of NOTHING, but it does guarantee Purina that their products will meet AAFCO guidelines no matter how toxic their foods are!

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi Abi,

    You might want to check with your breeder to see if she can offer some other alternatives to feed. If she’s a good breeder and knowledgable about the food and the breed, she might have some good suggestions.

  • aimee

    Hi Abi,

    Puppies are much more susceptible to food pathogens than adults. If incorporating raw I’s recommend only products that have undergone HPP: high pressure pasturization.

    Growth is a very demanding lifestage and for large breeds attention to Ca content is very important. too much and too little can lead to growth problems.

    I’m not in England so I don’t know what you have available but questions to ask are:

    Who formulated the food and what are their credentials?

    Does the company employ veterinary or PhD nutritionists?

    Has the company raised large breed puppies on their product and what type of monitoring was done in regards to bone and joint development?

    Personally I wouldn’t raise a pup on a raw diet. I find it too risky.

  • Abi Creighton

    Hello, We’ve recently bought a Black Labrador puppy who is fed Raw.
    The breeder gave us (pets at home 0.99p per 400g) for the first 2 days and a puppy pack from Natural Instinct.
    Natural Instinct seems better for her but its fairly expensive. Are there alternative companies people would recommend? I’ve had a quick look online and found most 500g raw frozen packs are around £2. The pets at home food left her stools very chalky – which doing a little research tells me there’s to much bone content? Natural instinct seems to agree with her. I’m in Hampshire so who would you recommend as our Raw frozen Supplier? Thanks in advance.

  • Susan

    TROLL

  • theBCnut

    This has happened before, so I imagine that this is another one of Discus’s updates.

  • LabsRawesome

    That is really weird! 🙂

  • DogFoodie

    It is weird. If you click on the comment bar above and scroll down Bojangles’ response to Erin is there and you can click on it from there and see what was written. I have no idea why it wouldn’t show up in the thread, but I don’t see it in the thread either.

  • Crazy4dogs

    I don’t understand what’s happening, but the whole discus site seems weird lately. I saw the posts originally, now they don’t seem to be on here when I click on your or aimee’s reply. They don’t show up if I search for this topic and use that route. They do show up if I click on Bojangles reply, but aimee’s and your post do not appear.

    That’s happened on some of my posts lately. I see certain posts but not others. It’s extremely difficult to navigate. 🙁

  • Storm’s Mom

    Maybe it’s just me, but I’m not seeing any post by bojangles anywhere on this page….

  • aimee

    Hi Erin,

    I’d agree with bojangles…. this company makes a lot of mistakes … the aafco statement is inappropriately worded, the company claims kibble is only 35% digestible and states that dogs can not digest starch. All incorrect information.

    My opinion is very unfavorable and this isn’t a company whose products I would choose to use.

  • bojangles

    Hi Erin,

    This is the calculator I use for converting protein, fat or carbohydrate to their dry matter (0% moisture) equivalent.

    http://fnae.org/dmb.html

    The reason for converting protein, fat and carbs to dry matter is it enables you to compare different foods with different moisture contents better.

    Dry foods have a moisture content around 10%, Wet foods have a moisture content around 75%.

    If you wanted to compare the protein levels of a dry food with 10% moisture and 30% protein to a wet food with 75% moisture and 15% protein you would convert them to their dry matter content and you would see that the wet food is 60% protein and the dry food is 44.5% protein, on a dry matter basis.

    So even though the dry food might seem like it has twice the protein, once you remove the water, it’s the wet food that is higher in protein.

    It also helps when the moisture content of two foods are much closer, like two wet foods where one has 70% moisture and the other has 77% moisture.

    I would be delighted if you used the information I gave you to better evaluate this company and their foods. I would probably send an email so you can have a hard copy of what they say.

    It’s hard to really evaluate a company because no company ever says, “hey we just want your money, and we’ll say just about anything to get it”, so we’re left to try and figure things out for ourselves.

    Some of my personal criteria for evaluating a company are:

    How open are they to answering your questions.

    How do they deal with mistakes when they happen, do they say thank you for pointing this out, or do they deny. deny, deny,

    One thing I never want to hear from a company is that something is “proprietary information”.

    I think it’s just used as an excuse to hide things from the consumer. I believe that the average consumer like you and I, is in no position to use that info to “steal their recipe” and start producing our own dog food!

    I also think that anyone in a position to copy their recipe, such as another dog food company, is able to figure out their “proprietary info” without asking them a dang thing!

    I make my dog’s food from scratch, using store bought ingredients and a multivitamin/mineral supplement.

    When it comes to feeding my guys I feel better if I make it myself!

  • Erin

    Thank you very much for responding to my inquiry and checking out their website! Can you tell me how you went about (or how I can in the future) determine the protein/fat percentages on a dry matter basis and why it needs to be converted in that way? Please excuse my ignorance! Also, would you have a problem if I spoke with them about this and used your information to see what they have to say? Thank you!

  • Lanie Malvit

    Actually rice is a high quality grain that is an excellent source of energy and healthy carbohydrates

  • Trevor

    No filler? The number one ingredient is rice, WHICH DOGS DONT NEED. It’s a sub par food, you’re a troll, you’ve been reported.

  • Amateria

    I realised the ability to block her a few days ago, don’t know why I didn’t notice it earlier, anyways you can still see them in recent comments, because I did.

    You can also unblock her via your disqus profile page somewhere in there anyways, if you feel the need to reply.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Although I just realized that if we all blocked her, she may get away with saying some pretty crazy stuff unchallenged. Or can we still see her comments on the Recent Comments page and reply to her? (unblock her to do so?) I just wish Dr Mike would ban her sooner rather than later.

  • Cannoli

    you sir have done a great public service. Thanks for heads up on blocking

  • Azul

    You’re welcome.

  • theBCnut

    They aren’t. Well, some of them anyway.

  • theBCnut

    Me, too.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Thanks for this info, didn’t realize I could do that. I’ve blocked her now 🙂

  • Azul

    Yep, RC doesn’t think people are smart enough to compare the ing. lists of their “breed specific” foods, and figure out that they all use the same ingredients. Hahahaha

  • Azul

    Hi Sharron, instead of feeding the troll, just block them. You will no longer see their posts. Just hover over the post and click on the triangle, then just choose block user. You will no longer see posts from that user.

  • sharron

    i’m sure you wil do a bang up job doing it

  • sharron

    why specifically do you think dogs that are eating grain free, raw or any other type of dog food will be dead in a few years. a dog or cat can get sick and it has nothing to do with food

  • Lanie Malvit

    well dont worry, i wont stop just because i may get harassed or bullied. Because i know that im doing the best thing for my dog, and that their dog will be dying in a few years, if not months, from grain free and raw crap

    Dont worry, i will share your story for you (:

  • Azul

    If you don’t want to see Lanie’s posts, just block them. I did it and all the posts from that user disappeared from my screen. It just says this user is blocked where their posts used to be.
    This new disqus feature is boss! To block a user just hover over their comment like you were going to flag the comment, click on the upside down triangle, and it just pops up.
    NO MORE POSTS FROM LANIE!! YES!!!

  • You’ve made your point. Please respect our Commenting Policy which states:

    “… we do not allow spamming — the repeated posting of the same or similar comments designed to promote (for whatever reason) a specific product or brand.”

    Thank you.

  • sharron

    i’m interested in knowing why my last comment to lanie malvit was flagged for approval by DFA and then deleted – what was wrong with it
    just curious..thanks

  • sharron

    no i am not going to start telling people to switch to RC – in the past i have been called an idiot, been accused of abusing her and asked if i am trying to kill her. and these comments were made to me at different times and different pet stores without me asking for advice. these people i guess thought they were doing me a favour, or most likely doing Lexee a favour – so i am not going to tell people to switch and be ridiculed again

  • theBCnut

    He’s only removed one that I know of.

  • Lanie Malvit

    And thats great! Look what royal canin has done for your dog!
    please tell more people of your story so that more people will make the best switch of their dogs life!

  • Debbie

    My dog has suffered from bladder stones sine just after she turned one. Our vet recommend Urinary SO by Royal Canine, and we’ve religiously followed this diet for 4 years. Although, our dog has not had to undergo another surgery to remove stones, she still suffers from them. Obviously the RC isn’t doing the trick. After this last checkup, I’ve decided to search for an alternative and the Raw diet has been recommended several times. Can anyone, whose experienced the same problem recommended one Raw brand over another that has resolved the bladder stones?

  • sharron

    i have fed RC Chihuahua, long before you started posting on DFA. I’m not going to take sides here and say whether i think it’s a good or not so good food. All i know is that it works well for Lexee and her gastrointestinal problems that arise every so often. The food keeps her digestive system working well. but because it works for Lexee doesn’t mean i am going to start recommending it to people. what other people feed their pets is their business not mine. I only know what works for lexee, I am not qualified to start handing out advice to what people should be feeding. I have tried many other brands, that either Lexee didn’t like and wouldn’t eat or it caused constipation, or runny stools

  • Lanie Malvit

    compare the (high quality) ingredient’s in any two of their products, you’ll see the difference
    also they use different amounts of different (high quality) ingredients

  • sharron

    that makes sense – thanks for clarifying – they are not unique at all
    i think the only difference is kibble size – other than that the ingredients are all the same for all the breeds

  • Storm’s Mom

    I think she’s talking about the ones with the breed-specific name.. I wouldn’t say they are “unique formulas” ..more like “unique marketing strategy using basically the same recipe to create a hundred different products”

  • sharron

    unigue formulas? such as? – i’ve never seen any unique formulas – are these just in the states? i’m in alberta

  • Lanie Malvit

    actually royal canin has over 100 UNIQUE dog formulas, and they also have wet food options for picky dogs,

  • Storm’s Mom

    I’ve flagged a couple of Lanie’s posts for Dr Mike (the ones about being “sad” for people because their non-RC eating dogs are going to die in a year or two, etc), but he’s letting it go for some reason. I don’t get it *shrug*.

  • sharron

    you say all dogs should be fed RC and only RC – what if the dog doesn’t like it and refuses to eat it – what do you suggest an owner do, the dog has to eat

  • Lanie Malvit

    Actually the way i found out about royal canin was from my VET

    and the only communication i have had with royal canin in my life was a few times when i have a few questions, when i EMAILED them

    I just want all dogs to be happy and healthy, and they wont be if they keep eating this crap called raw food, But it will end if they all start eating royal canin!!

  • Lanie Malvit

    i cannot be banned for trying to inform you people that royal canin is the healthiest, and highest quality dog food that has ever existed!

  • Lanie Malvit

    they are HEALTHY carbohydrates,
    get your facts straight!

  • Lanie Malvit

    So you think that someone eating KFC every meal of their life will live longer than someone only eating veggies, rice, and healthy meats?
    (hint, raw food is the kfc)

  • Crazy4dogs

    If you look @ Lanie’s posts, It’s difficult to believe any dog food company would want to be represented in such a crazy manner. It’s better not to feed the troll. 😉

  • Crazy4dogs

    I understand that. I feed a variety of foods to my dogs, including raw. When I feed raw, I use commercial raw food and generally prefer the HPP processed ones and only the ones that are complete and balanced. When I use the premixes and grocery store meat, I generally cook it first. I don’t have a problem with feeding my dogs both raw and cooked fresh food.

  • Shawna

    We’ve been over this several times with Lanie and supplied credible sources. She’s not the least bit interested in actual facts though.

  • InkedMarie

    I remember her/him!

  • Azul

    It’s ridiculous how this person is allowed to troll this site. I’m surprised they haven’t been blocked or banned yet.

  • Azul

    No problem. I’m positive that everyone is tired of this Lanie troll and noboby really cares about the nonsense he keeps posting.

  • Cheryl Rooney

    Then your not feeding raw if your cooking it. Dogs very very rarely get salmonella etc from raw they have short guts that can handle it.

  • Cheryl Rooney

    You can however Barb there is a combination of MEAT ORGAN AND BONE needs to be in the raw for balanced food and that’s hard to do when buying retail. There are many companies that offer a balanced product in raw.

  • Cheryl Rooney

    False again Mr know it all.

  • Azul

    Because this is what trolls do. Apparently this person has nothing better to do than troll this site.

  • Cheryl Rooney

    Dogs do NOT need carbs

  • Cheryl Rooney

    Are you banging your head yet

  • Cheryl Rooney

    Please leave this forum. This is for people who want more education on various foods for their dogs. Not a one minded person like yourself. Royal Canin is NOT the best food for you dog just so you know. Are you getting a kick back from them?

  • Crazy4dogs

    Sorry, my mistake, I guess many people have similar views. I was wondering what happened to the other poster. I guess the other poster must be on vacation or taking a break from DFA. Nice to meet you Azul. 😉

  • Azul

    I agree. I have posted similar responses to Lanie twice. Both posts were removed. Weird

  • Babslynne

    You are a Troll! Your repetitive mind numbing relentless sales pitch for this brand with sub par ingredients has gotten on our last nerve and has only made us hate RC and your every last post. Telling us that we hate our dogs is fulfilling your title a Troll!
    In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussions.

  • Lanie Malvit

    Im sorry that you hate your dog,
    all owners should want the highest quality food for their dog, and im sad that you will be burying your dog in a year or two because of your poor choice

  • Azul

    Exactly.

  • Azul

    Nope. I only post here as Azul.

  • Storm’s Mom

    It’s your opinion that there’s this superclass of vets called “REAL vets” (although you’ve given no criteria by which to determine what makes a “REAL vet” different than any other vet or a veterinary nutritionist). It may (or may not) be that RC has “research to back up every single one of their ingredients” but it’s your opinion that that research is better or more important than other research that is contrary to your opinion. As I said, you’ve made your opinion very clear.. time to stop and/or move on. I’m moving on from this conversation, and won’t engage in it again.

  • Pitlove

    I’m assuming you are talking about Labsrawesome

  • mahoraner niall

    Im not going to get tied up in this whole royal canin debate, but Lanie, one thing i can tell you is that i will NEVER feed my dog royal canin, Even if they made a formula that had no by products, corn, brewers rice, wheat, or soy, i still would never give my money to royal canin, ever

  • Lanie Malvit

    I would like to thank my vet for informing me about royal canin, and royal canin for developing a food that is 100% healthy, with no fillers or bad ingredients and that will soon let dogs live until 27 years old again,

  • Lanie Malvit

    I will not stop until all dogs are on the best dog food on this planet, and that food is royal canin

  • Lanie Malvit

    So its my opinion that royal canin uses REAL vets to test and develop their food?
    is it my opinion that royal canin has research to back up every single one of their ingredients?
    those are facts, and if you dont believe me, ask them your self by email

  • InkedMarie

    You need to stop this anti-raw talk. If you want to try to cram RC down our throats, have at it but I cannot leave this post alone.

    What gave you the idea that “all the raw food companies are in CHINA”? That is completely wrong. False. Untrue.

    My dogs raw comes from PA, some from her very farm. Others from other places she trusts in the US

  • InkedMarie

    You need to do some research on raw diets.
    Clearly, you have not and you won’t.
    I hope someone fro RC happens upon DFA because I doubt they would be very impressed with you.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Please go away.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Azul, you look like a poster that used to be on here that I haven’t seen in awhile.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Actually, you’re not spewing facts, you’re spewing opinion. And you’ve made your opinion very clear.. we get it. Please stop/move on.

  • Lanie Malvit

    Im not just spewing facts just for the heII of it, im doing it to save your dogs life!
    I guarantee you if you try royal canin for just 3 weeks (only 21 days!) You will see the royal canin difference, and i guarantee you, that you wont want to stop after 21 days, and you’ll realize that royal canin actually IS the best food you could ever feed your dog, and that all of that raw sh!t is the worst stuff you could ever feed!!!

  • Lanie Malvit

    If anything, the royal canin diet would SAVE a dog from poisonous raw food!
    Also it would let them experience what its like to be the healthiest possible and let them live the fullest life possible!!
    Also, no i do not work for royal canin, i work for a small company near Philadelphia
    and according to my research, Royal canins headquarters is in FRANCE
    and in usa its in MISSOURI
    And all of the raw food companies are in CHINA

  • Azul

    Nobody.

  • Azul

    Um no.

  • Azul

    Hahaha

  • InkedMarie

    If you’re disgusted, I’m sure there is a Royal Canin forum out there somewhere.

  • Trevor

    Idk if you’re employed by royal canin or if you’re just ignorant, stop commenting before you harm someone else’s dog.

  • Lanie Malvit

    Actually the rice that royal canin uses is a high quality, high energy rice and is a source of healthy carbohydrates

  • Lanie Malvit

    You may not have adhd, but you DEFINITELY have some kind of mental illness if you think that raw food is even the littlest bit healthy, and royal canin is “not”

  • Trevor

    When the first ingredient is rice I’m going to say you couldn’t be further from the truth.

  • Lanie Malvit

    IM disgusted you would even suggest a raw diet! The healthiest food for any dog on earth is ROYAL CANIN, and always will be!

  • scbaty

    I live in Hawaii and have used Raw Dog chicken chub, some bones and tripe. They are so fantastic. It’s expensive but if you can afford it it’s really good food. The owner and the people who work for him are the nicest most helpful people I believe I’ve ever met. Even if you don’t use their food they want animals to be healthy and they will put you in the right direction no matter what you decide to feed your pet. I HIGHLY recommend them. Hope this helps. And I too feel left out living in Hawaii!

  • theBCnut

    I’m not Shawna, but I’ve been doing an elimination diet with my dog for a long time. To start out, you don’t worry about balancing the diet. That only matters over time, not in the short term. To start, you want to pick a protein source and a carb source that you believe your dog has never been exposed to before. You feed them this and only this for 8-10 weeks until all symptoms subside and a bit longer to make sure nothing else crops up. If all symptoms do not subside, then you need to pick a different protein and a different carb and start over again. After that, if symptoms don’t subside, you may assume that the issue is not a food allergy/sensitivity or depending on the degree of recovery, you may have multiple things going on such as environment sensitivities. If all symptoms subside, then at the end of your 8-10 weeks, you add one new food or add one new protein and one new carb, and wait to see if symptoms return. Feed this for 6 weeks if there is no reaction, before adding one new food, and so on until you know what your dog can eat. If your dog reacts, you go back to the two foods you know he can handle and start over again. every time you find a food he can eat or a food he can’t eat, you should go revisit it at a later time to “challenge” his system. This is when you will have your proof that a food is safe or not. You need to keep a detailed journal of everything you try and every symptom you see. Some foods will cause certain symptoms which may be different than the symptoms other foods cause. As an example, my dog gets greasy thinning itchy red coat if he eats chicken, but grains cause him to get acid reflux and bowel irritation. I started with ingredients for a recipe I was hoping to try and kept adding one more ingredient until I finally had a reasonably balanced meal I could feed my dog while I kept adding in new things. Then I worked toward checking off ingredients that were in a kibble I wanted to be able to use. That’s how I decided what to try next. Good luck! It’s a long process.

  • Karen E Bedill

    Shawna, I am curious if you follow Dr. Beckers recipes? I have two shih tzus that both suffer from allergies and I’m wanting to do an elimination diet and transition them to raw and ive been weeks putting it on hold because I’m so afraid that I won’t know what to give them, you seem very knowledgeable and I was hoping you may shed a little light in my direction so that I can get the ball rolling for these poor pooches.

  • bojangles

    Hi Erin.

    I never heard of this food before you mentioned it!

    I have never seen a raw food before that used Step 5 Chickens, let alone organic Step 5 chickens. When it comes to animal welfare, Step 5 certification is as good as it gets. It’s as close to an animal’s natural living conditions as possible. So I give them a huge thumbs up for this!!!

    The beef they use is supposed to be organic, grass fed and grass finished. I didn’t see anything about pasture raised so I can only hope it is.

    As far as quality goes this company’s foods are as good as I’ve ever seen.

    Now for some bad news, They make a lot of mistakes. On the pictures of their labels it says:

    Protein 95%
    Vegetables 4%
    Organic Supplements 1%

    The protein is not 95%, the meat content is 95%. The protein is about 40% on a dry matter basis, and the fat is around 40% also. So not only did they make a mistake in labeling, but the fat content is very high, probably around 65% on a calorie weighted basis.

    Another mistake I noticed is that the ingredient list for the “Pack Leader Chicken/Beef Blend 15 lb Bag” doesn’t list any chicken, it’s probably the ingredient list for the organic beef product instead.

    So according to their website the quality and animal welfare aspects of their foods are unsurpassed in my humble opinion, but the mistakes throw some doubt on the validity of what they say.

    I would probably only use this food in rotation with 2 or 3 better documented raw foods for now.

    I make my dog’s food from scratch, it’s the only way I feel comfortable when it comes to my furball’s diet!

  • Erin

    Any chance you can give an opinion on Raw Dog Hawaii chicken and beef products? I know it’s only useful for people in Hawaii but we always get left out over here. While possible, it is impractical and not the best idea to order things shipped from the mainland to Hawaii so I don’t buy any of the products you have listed. Thanks.

  • Megan Marie

    Please check out Shebang’s Natural Select!! Thank you!!

  • jjennilee

    Awesome thanks ..and these add all they need no need for additional vitamins etc for a healthy dog

  • Crazy4dogs

    I use a rotation of Grandma Lucy’s Pureformance, Sojos and The Honest Kitchen. Other posters might have some other suggestions.

  • jjennilee

    how do you know what premix to add to the raw meat is there a recipe or recipes to be aware of so the meal is balanced for them?>

  • Nina Paris

    In Miami there is a new company called wolf pack legacy raw diet. It’s not expensive and have everything your dog need

  • sean

    Dogs need to eat organs and bones of animals to get all of the nutrients, vitamins and mineral requirements ..they will get sick and malnourished with just meat…. it would be the worst thing anyone can do…speak to an expert on raw food for dogs…..a good resource is healthypets.mercola.com..Dr. BECKER IS AN EXPERT HOLISTIC Vet

  • pilar coats

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  • Azul

    I have no idea what you’re talking about. Why are you spamming
    the entire internet with jibberish about filling out forms?

  • LoreeRaine1

    Valuable commentary , I am thankful for the specifics – Does someone know if my assistant might be able to obtain a blank SEC Form 4 document to complete ?

  • Diana Francher

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge! : )

  • Millie Wagner

    We raw feed and our feeding area is in the garage. We use a lot of Clorox wipes for cleanup. As for licking, you can train your pup not to lick humans. We have done it and my last 3 knew that licking my face was completely off limits.

    This is one thing about feeding frozen raw that I really like: less mess and I don’t have to touch the food. We use it exclusively when we board or travel with our dog.

  • Millie Wagner

    You don’t need to cook the meat for your dogs: their digestive tracts are not the same as humans and are not as prone to problems with bacteria like ecoli or salmonella. With that said, if your pets are health compromised, then I would discuss this with a vet that understands raw-feeding before proceeding.

  • Millie Wagner

    You, can but you need to watch for sodium content and potential additives. If you are a thorough label reader you can do it, however, if you have friends or family that hunt or have a butcher or meat locker nearby you’d not have to worry as much about sodium content and/or additives. (Note: any fresh game should be frozen for a period of time to insure your dog doesn’t get any parasites/worms from the meat.)

  • Crazy4dogs

    I don’t think I said that meat sitting in the store picks up salmonella. I realize that salmonella most often comes from the processing plant. However, meat that sits can pick up a host of bacterial contaminants:

    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/how-safe-is-your-ground-beef

    http://www.peta.org/living/food/meat-contamination/

    http://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/superbugs/

  • Cannoli

    how long a meat sits in a store has nothing to do with salmonella. it’s were the meat is processed and whether the processor does salmonella testing at their facilities.

    for the most part i only feed raw none hormone pasture fed red meat. since free range grass fed animals TEND to not have as much salmonella issues as they are not cooped up in cages standing on top of their poop.

  • Marie Brochu

    Carnivora – http://www.carnivora.ca – company in Saskatoon, SK that has been around for 15+ years!! Their food is the one that all three of my dogs prefer over any of the ones they have tried. It has great consistency, no substitutions, and I know they stand behind their product. Please add them to this list!! 🙂

  • Crazy4dogs

    When I buy grocery store meat to feed my dogs, I cook it first, since it may have bacteria, salmonella, etc. Grocery store meat has sat around much longer than fresh butchered meat and is intended to be cooked. I then add a balanced premix to ensure the proper nutrients are in the diet. If you just throw some ground beef or a chicken leg at the dog and call it a day, nutritional deficiencies would eventually show up.
    Here’s a link to help explain raw diets:

    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/04/15/raw-food-diet-part-3.aspx

  • Barb Glamser

    If I’m going to go raw, why can’t I just buy meat at the grocery store?

  • The one I feed is Nature’s Variety, and it’s processed under high pressure conditions without heat. So the amino acids don’t break down, and the nutrition is fully retained, but the pressure kills any harmful bacteria. Handle it like it’s meat and you’ll be fine.

  • Pitlove

    If you are concerned about pathogens (which is understandable), you can do a homecooked diet instead of raw. You still retain the same benefits. I would suggest consulting with a veterinary nutritionist on how to balance the meals properly for a puppy.

  • Stephany

    So my questions is, how easy and safe is it really? I have 8 month old and am getting a Brittany spaniel within the next two weeks. I keep learning more information about the raw diet as I feel it would be great for any animal but I am worried about the germs. Such as they will eat everything raw and maybe lick my daughter or I, so how do you guys keep their mouths clean??

  • Crazy4cats

    Ok, I’m of no help to you then. I use a couple of different brands of the prepared raw foods as toppers, but no home prepared. Best wishes to you and your puppy. I have big dogs. Some day I think I’d like a yorkie. I’m sure he is adorable!

  • Azul

    You’re welcome! Good luck with your dog. 🙂

  • Gabi Aamr

    I am currently living in Mexico, here there are no commercially prepared raw food options available… So I will be preparing them myself 🙂

  • Gabi Aamr

    thank you, thats a great forum!

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Gabi-
    Are you planning on preparing the raw meals yourself or buying a complete and balanced commercially prepared raw diet?

  • Azul

    Hi Gabi, you might find more help with your question in the forums on this site.
    Just go to the top of the page and click on forums.
    There is a “Help with new to raw” thread over there.

  • Gabi Aamr

    Hi! I have a 4 month old Yorkie puppy, he is currently on purina PROPLAN kibble, however I am interested in switching him over to a raw food diet. I feel a bit lost as I have read that it is important to balance the minerals especially in a puppy. If anyone could give me some advice about what specifically I can feed him and in what amounts I would be very grateful.

  • Cannoli

    you sir are what i inspire to obtain with my pup. It is awe inspiring reading this comment. dogs are likes humans. they are meant to work, it makes them happy and are not meant to eat meat flavored cereal while sleeping all day

  • Think about it

    I believe it is not that raw food diets are so controversial as it is the treatment of those who choose other diets, by most raw feeders. Kibble feeders have been told they don’t love their pets, are neglectful owners, etc. Kudos to you! Most people don’t have the stomach for slaughter, but I would assume most food-animal farmers do feed raw.

  • Mel

    It amazes me that raw food diets are so controversial! At any given time I have a dozen working sheep dogs (Kelpies) on my farm here in Australia. I have always feed raw meat, bones & offal to my dogs. In large part because it’s cheap and accessible (we kill on farm for them and us). Beef and lamb for the ones in work and Kangaroo for the older less active dogs due to it’s lower fat content. They have access to self feeders of high quality kibble when ever they like (hardly ever). Get raw fresh eggs at least twice a week and seek out fallen fruit from our fruit trees when in season. My dogs highly tuned athletes & perform long hours in intense weather conditions. I wouldn’t consider feeding them anything else! They thrive on this diet.

  • Susan

    Hi there’s a EPI Face Book group on F/B there’s a lot of GSD owners on that site……
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/38663535025/

  • Justin Gross

    Keep in mind, raw foods like chicken have a high water content. I am not sure about their age, but raw meat can cause your puppy to need to urinate frequently. The old idea of picking up the water bowl in the evening does not apply -err make a difference. I say this incase your puppies are not housebroken, whether crate trained or not.

  • InkedMarie

    YOU replied to Justin; I was replying to you!

  • Jessika Sueiras

    Thanks so much and sorry about the name

  • InkedMarie

    I’m not Justin but the amount dogs need depends on the dogs, sizes and breeds. Puppies (under a year) may eat more than adults. I use the calculator at Hare Today 9google for their link)

  • Jessika Sueiras

    Hi Justin…I have three puppies and I would like to know how many pounds of raw food should I give them in a day?

  • Joudee303

    Can you evaluate “All Provide”?

  • Kat Connor

    Hi everyone!!!
    Thanks for the interest!
    My apologies for not expanding upon the acronyms. I forget that not everybody knows these abbreviations.

    Yes, GSD = German Shepard Dog
    CCD = canine compulsive disorder (the canine equivalent of human OCD). CCD typically surfaces when they hit puberty (6 – 12 mo) … What we still consider “puppyhood”. It it is estimated that CCD occurs in 2 – 3% of the canine population ( some animal behaviorist believe that it occurs in approximately one out of every 50 dogs).
    GSDs are pre-disposed to CCD and as such are at high risk to having CCD. From very mild two more severe, any repetitive motion…. from digging water in the water bowl to chasing the tail is part of the CCD.

    Sometimes they grow out of it and although we’ve had many GSDs this young man is the first one that has had such a severe case of the CCD

    The research from Finland is very interesting and looks promising but I haven’t located any supplements to specifically target to be vitamins that are meant for dogs

    So when I found your site and this forum, I thought it would be worth a shot to see if anyone out there has had any experiences with excessive CCD in a GSD, or any other breed for that matter

    Thanks!
    Kat

  • millersway

    Thank you InkedMarie, never would have guessed the GSD. The OCD was the only one I had a clue on.

  • theBCnut

    I think CCD is the canine equivalent of OCD.

  • InkedMarie

    Oops, I replied to the wrong person…see my reply above.

  • InkedMarie

    In case she doesn’t answer, I can help with a couple:

    GSD: German Shepherd Dog
    OCD: Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

    I don’t know what CCD is. I thought Canine Cognitive Disorder but that is not something a 7 month old dog has.

  • millersway

    Please spell out your acronyms once

  • Haley Jacquard

    I’m hoping to see Mountain Dog Food added to the list soon 🙂 would love to see how it scores on this site.

  • Carola Becker

    I would stay away from Hills or any of those Prescription diets. They are pure junk.

  • Justin Gross

    I thought this was going to be a good canine diet article. The lost has dog brands. Makes me laugh. People. People…. Whole raw chickens also including the organs, is the very best diet in general. Add carrots and other non-leady vegetables. Once in a while, throw them a nice big sirloin. Reminder: No dog should be fed cooked bones of any kind. Raw bones are exceptionally healthy and are key to making a difference in a dogs diet. Feed all-natural. If you cannot afford such a meal, which is cheaper and healthier than those disgustingly grotesque raw dog meals in your pet store’s freezer, you CAN supplement with kibble. As a matter of fact, I recommend it. Supplementing can relieve the cost greatly, because the raw food is so… hmmm… what your dogs body needs, and does not only just fill your dogs mass to keep him breathing, which is what kibble does. BUT, when supplementing, always feed the kibble earlier than a raw bone meal. When fed after the raw bone meal, the kibble can make your dog sick and potentially fatally septic as the kibble gets stuck and rots in place because the dogs body is busy taking the plethera of nutrients out of the bone meal, where the kibble flies thru because it is half filler and non-nutritional and well, not bone. Your dog will be better in mood, spirit, alertness and athleticism with a REAL raw food diet. Your dog will handle weight better and love you extra for every meal. When feeding a whole chicken, it is good to let the dog fast. My Doberman and Golden Retriever both eat about four large chicken breasts in the mor ing and in the evening, they get another breast and a whole, large chicken. Side note: If a dog refuses to eat what you are ordering him to eat, do not let them own you. Your dog will not starve. He will eat it eventually and everything will be just fine. Your dog just knows that he owns you and well, maybe its time you act like a leader and have your dog get off of his high horse. Also, if your dog is on a full, raw food diet and cannot gold weight, do the supplementing with a premium kibble. It will give it the little bit of filler you need. An all raw food diet xan be very expensive. But don’t do it half-arsed. Either buy your dog crappy premium dog food or feed them a real, REAL raw meat, vegetable and grain diet. There is no point of in-between with those dog food brands of raw diets. And please, learn how to read a dog food label. If it says, “chicken MEAL,” or something not likely on human food, it is what manipulating words is to polishing a terd. It is not what you think. Sounds great, but you are wasting your money. Especially if it were to say, “Contains chicken meal.” Oh thats a funny one. So, they could put 1 gram of chicken MEAL in and slap that on the label. After all, the bag then contains chicken meal…

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