K9 Natural Freeze Dried Raw (Freeze-Dried)


Rating: ★★½☆☆

K9 Natural Freeze Dried Raw Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-lowest tier rating of 2.5 stars.

The K9 Natural product line lists 3 freeze-dried raw dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

Important: Because many websites do not reliably specify which Growth or All Life Stages recipes are safe for large breed puppies, we do not include that data in this report. Be sure to check actual packaging for that information.

  • K9 Natural Beef Feast (1.5 stars) [A]
  • K9 Natural Lamb Feast (1.5 stars) [A]
  • K9 Natural Chicken Feast (4.5 stars) [A]

K9 Natural Chicken Feast was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

K9 Natural Chicken Feast

Freeze-Dried Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 52% | Fat = 37% | Carbs = 4%

Ingredients: Chicken, eggs, brown kelp, flaxseed flakes, cabbage, broccoli, Swiss chard, carrot, cauliflower, dried kelp, calcium carbonate, apple, pear, New Zealand green mussel, beta-carotene, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, zinc proteinate, sunflower oil, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, manganese proteinate, thiamine mononitrate, folic acid, selenium yeast

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 1.6%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis49%35%NA
Dry Matter Basis52%37%4%
Calorie Weighted Basis36%62%3%
Protein = 36% | Fat = 62% | Carbs = 3%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken. Chicken is considered “the clean combination of flesh and skin… derived from the parts or whole carcasses of chicken”.1

Chicken is naturally rich in the ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.

The second ingredient includes eggs. Eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The third ingredient is kelp, an algae-based seaweed modest in protein content but rich in marine minerals.

The fourth ingredient is flaxseed, one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The fifth ingredient is cabbage. Like broccoli and cauliflower, cabbage is a cruciferous vegetable rich in protective anti-oxidants and fiber.

The sixth ingredient includes broccoli. Broccoli is a healthy green vegetable and a member of the kale family. It’s notably rich in vitamin C and fiber and numerous other nutrients.

Like other cruciferous vegetables, broccoli is believed to provide anti-cancer benefits.

The seventh ingredient is chard. Due to its exceptional vitamin and mineral content, chard exhibits a remarkably high nutrient Completeness Score2 of 92.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, we find green-lipped mussel. Mussels are clam-like animals notably rich in glucosamine and omega-3 fatty acids, nutrients proven to support long-term joint health.

Next, this food includes chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

And lastly, this recipe contains selenium yeast. Unlike the more common inorganic form of selenium (sodium selenite), this natural yeast supplement is considered a safer anti-cancer alternative.

K9 Natural Freeze Dried Raw Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, K9 Natural Freeze Dried Dog Food looks like an above-average raw product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 52%, a fat level of 37% and estimated carbohydrates of about 4%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 38% and a mean fat level of 38%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 16% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 99%.

Near-average protein. Above-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical raw dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a raw product containing at least a moderate amount of meat.

However, with 62% of the total calories in our example coming from fat versus just 36% from protein, some recipes may not be suitable for every animal. In addition, this same finding also prevents us from awarding the brand a higher rating.

Bottom line?

K9 Natural is a meat-based raw dog food using a moderate amount of named meats as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 2.5 stars.

Not recommended.

Because of their unusually higher fat content, we cannot, in good faith, recommend either the Lamb or Beef recipes.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

K9 Natural Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

09/23/2017 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  2. Completeness Score is a measure of a food’s relative nutrient content and is computed by NutritionData.com from the USDA’s National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference
  • Charles Clark

    I get the reason for concern but the rating seems to be awfully negative when it’s a appropriate diet for a large amount of dogs. Those who have super active or hard to keep weight on dogs could do great on high fat. My boxer eats alot of it but is only inside when it’s time for bed or to just chill a bit after some hard play. Once it starts getting real cold I increase his fat substantially. For those who have sedentary house dogs its probably bad, If your dog is always on the go I see no issue. I think this site could go a long way by clarifying that because this seems a good food if high fat is appropriate for your dog. The way it reads now this seems to be a junk food about as good as kibbles n bits. That obviously isn’t the case. I have never used this food but high fat is NOT always a bad thing, it can actually be desirable. The low carbs also look great, carbs like alot of the higher rated kibbles or foods have are not a good thing. It’s a sign of cheaper food imo. I agree with alot on this site, I don’t agree with those 2 items though. I’ll finish off by saying people shouldn’t feed any food constantly, switch it up as often as you can, and adjust calories, fat and protein as needed. Especially in places were it gets real cold. Animals do this in nature and our pets deserve the same. Don’t tinker to much with what mother nature got just rite, over a long period of time. Your unlikely to improve upon it and will go nuts looking for the miracle food. It doesn’t exist, variety is the miracle you seek.

  • Veronika

    All of them except the venison were greasy to touch after adding water, whenever I rehydrate the venison I have to squish it with my fingers as the mini fork tends to slip on the pieces and the juices go everywhere, this is actually pretty crucial in any new food I try with Rusty as he has pancreatitis, but he has never reacted to this to the venison so I guess they did 1 formula right and pretty much trashed the rest.
    Their canned foods are super oily as well, I think every formula except the venison had like 10.4% fat, which compared to the lamb and tripe Ziwipeak their fattiest formula from what I remember is only 5.5%.

  • Laura Ragonese

    I believe this food is what caused my dog’s liver enzymes (ALT) to elevate. It’s loaded with fat….not a good choice for my dog.

  • Jerry Bair

    I don’t care how many stars this food gets, unless you can prove that they’re using poor quality ingredients, my dogs are doing great on it. Dogs can mostly only digest fats and proteins anyway. I like the company and what they offer

  • sandy

    This article was last updated in August 2016 and K9 Naturals’ website has since changed. Articles are updated every 18 months. As for the iron levels, you would need to address the other poster.

  • Thepetstoreguy

    I too am a little confused about the “review” of K9’s freeze dried foods, the fact that it is indeed an all life stages food but that is unspecified here(picture attached for proof). Also the fact that you state the iron is too high, when in fact the iron content in the food is actually on the low end, I believe it’s around 220mg/kg in dry matter basis. The carb is stated by your calculation at 23% when in fact it is around 3%. I’ve been feeding K9 for 2 years and have never had any issues, in fact both my boys health has turned around since feeding them both the raw and the freeze dried K9 Natural. Pretty sad that they are clearly getting thrown under the bus here, definitely should reconsider and also re-review their products.


  • Crazy4cats

    I believe that it is a mistake also. The wording is most likely unchanged from when the food was rated higher. You could notify the administrators by using the “contact us” option at the bottom of the page.

  • aimee

    Hi Angie,

    I suppose another explanation would be that the wording is a hold over from when the product was rated higher. The product used to have a 5 star rating but it was corrected down to 1.5 stars after the rating system took into account the calorie weighted basis of evaluation.

    There has been research into raw and so far no real benefits. The digestibility is a bit higher but pretty insignificant. I have two concerns with most raw diets, safety and meeting nutritional needs.

    Unfortunately I’ve only found one commercial raw company that I think is getting the nutritional needs of the dog met. The better commercial raw companies mitigate the safety risk through HPP. At this point I think the risk outweighs benefit.

  • Veronika

    Arthritis is manageable with the right food it’ll even appear treatable.
    Glucosamine was said to be very poor and weak compared to chondroitin.
    Green lipped mussel has worked wonders in this family.
    Emu oil, coconut oil, fish oil, fish kibbles, olive oil, sunflower oil, flaxseed have also intermittently helped Rusty lots, he gets a base food and I give him other foods once a day sometimes not everyday because he tends to get pancreatic attacks if I do.

    Well at the end of the day the food isn’t low fat even reconstituted so for me moderation is key, I have the old formula though so mine is actually a lot better.
    We’ve completely lost the ability to buy Venison K9 here, I’m switching to a new ethical brand within Australia called FrontierPets the chicken reconstituted has only 8.6% so that’s awesome, no green lipped mussel however, it instead has organic turmeric.
    Oh right turmeric paste is also good for joints, a mixture of good quality turmeric is preferred, coconut oil and black pepper.

  • aimee

    Hi Veronica,

    Glad you find the calorie weighted pie chart valuable. Evaluating foods on a calorie weighted basis was a feature added to this site shortly after I brought the importance of doing so to Dr. Mike’s attention.

  • aimee

    Hi Veronika,
    When I looked at the product about 6 years ago the K9 Natural was reporting very high fat levels.

    Here is comment from that time frame in which the G.A. and ingredient lists were posted: http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/k9-natural-freeze-dried-raw/#comment-356700468

  • Veronika

    About a year ago give or take, they added vitamins to it, sunflower oil and flax and they moved around the eggs from the bottom to the top and blood was like 5th or something now it’s 2nd, some big changes happened not necessarily for the worst it’s just thanks to the eggs and oil up top it’s now more fatty and so the rating had to be put down.

    Any foods with extreme fat percentages will get bad ratings, it’s to let people know it has a lot of fat so they can make the decision of whether they want to feed it or not.
    The pie chart is an actual very important part of this website for that very reason.

  • Angie G

    That’s interesting, do you know when they changed it? I’ve used it occassionally in the past as a treat but now usually get ZiwiPeak Lamb & Mackerel when not feeding raw as slightly cheaper per serve.

  • Angie G

    Ok, I guess I would expect the “bottom line” to match the rating – i.e. if they rated it 1.5 stars then I would not expect it to be then considered above average!
    I’ve only used it intermittently in the past as a treat (ones with green tripe) as the dog loved it.

  • aimee

    Hi Angie,

    How I read it is that if you only looked at the ingredient list you’d think that the product would be an above average product …. but in reality it only rates 1.5 stars.

    I looked into this product several years ago. I quickly discovered that the company didn’t have any understanding of basic nutrition and therefore failed to meet my criteria for a product I would be willing to feed my dog.

    If I remember right the iron levels they reported were in the range that led to intestinal hemorrhage and their calcium levels were crazy high.

  • Veronika

    It’s a fantastic product that cured Rusty’s leg problem and he became a puppy again, the reason for the rating is they changed the ingredients and it’s now more fat then anything else, if your dog is otherwise healthy the fat won’t be a problem.

  • Angie G

    I’m confused by the information in this review…
    At the top it says “K9 Natural Raw Freeze Dried Dog Food receives the Advisor’s lowest tier rating of 1.5 stars.”
    Then under the bottom line section it says: “Judging by its ingredients alone, K9 Natural Raw Freeze Dried Dog Food looks like an above-average raw product.”

    So is it rated as a terrible product or an above average product?!!

  • Hanna

    Any chance we can get a rating for the canned foods of the same company? I want to try their canned food over ziwipeak. We love ziwi but they use water with fluoride in it. I’m still waiting to hear from k9 to see if they also use fluorinated water.

  • Crazy4cats

    I buy their frozen green tripe to mix in my dogs’ meals a few times per week. They love it!

  • Lisa

    Hi Crazy4Cats! Thank you for your reply. Yes, completely agree – the fat to protein percentage is out of control!! But the ingredients are so phenomenal in this food…. I guess for right now this works for him amazingly, but may not always. He always loves to eat, but goes completely nuts when I’m going to feed him K9 Naturals 🙂

  • sharron

    hi – what do you consider is a good lower fat percentage – have Lexee eating the Acana Duck which has 15% fat – she’s prone to gaining weight easily, is 15% ok or should it be lower?

  • Crazy4cats

    Your dog is beautiful. My guess is that it got a lower rating on this site due to a high fat percentage. The same rating system is used for all foods. For your dog, maybe a higher than average fat percentage is a good thing. For others, not so much. The amount of info on this site is amazing, but the rating system doesn’t fit all situations. I prefer to feed lower fat foods due to having chubby prone labs! Hope this is helpful!

  • Lisa

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9d641f71c8134206d0824acd284a8fa8f5b3ff9d2f4aa90b757b9d67605a56e9.jpg My Doberman has been on K9 Naturals Beef Feast freeze dried for 7 days now and I cannot even tell you what a difference already!! His coat is already so much softer and shinier!! I cannot believe it. And cannot believe it only has 1 and a half stars on here!!! He has always been fed raw frozen and homemade cooked. I like to rotate proteins.

  • Amateria

    Opened up a can of the venison today, since I finally ran out of the Ziwipeak can, gotta say it smelt really good and Rusty licked it off the spoon 10x faster than he does the Ziwipeak, even Anja had a few spoons of it, I think it’s going to be quiet the hit.

  • Heather

    The food is complete/balanced and AAFCO approved. It’s listed on the nutrition page of the website and on the bags of food.

  • Amateria

    What was the rating before the ingredient change?

    I got the beef topper recently it’s so greasy it’s insane, even if you rehydrate it, the grease stays, I could rehydrate it before and the grease kind of seeped out into the water and I think the venison is probably better anyways but they don’t have any yet or ever who knows.

  • Cannoli

    it’s the smell of mussels. i can’t stand it either hence i don’t feed my pup any food with canned or freeze dried mussels.

    Mussels shouldn’t be canned or freeze dried. they are a cheap shell fish that one can buy and easily cook for your pup without that ghastly smell.

  • Crazy4cats

    You’re right, they do. Good call Sandy and C4D. The above review doesn’t list it, but their website does. I buy their lamb tripe and it stinks to high heaven and yes indeed, my dogs love it!

  • Amateria

    I loved the smell of it, love the smell of Ziwipeak every time I buy a new bag or can I sniff it for like a minute or two before serving it up and I keep sniffing it every other time I serve it haha

    It smells fresh and raw and good to be honest, it’s what healthy smells like to me.

  • Crazy4dogs

    LOL! I looked up the ingredients and they all have tripe! It smells terrible, but my dogs love tripe! 😉

  • sandy

    Does it have any tripe in it?

  • Amateria

    Not only was I in the most epic mood ever last night, but upon seeing that K9 Natural now has canned varieties of their freeze dried foods I almost started to shake from happiness 😛
    I was giddy the rest of the night after that.

    I informed the two chewy like websites here to stock the damned cans so I can buy them haha, because man do I want to!

    Those toppers also look good, I hope we get them also because I seriously need them!


  • Crazy4cats

    I have fed both the K9 freeze dried tripe and frozen to my dogs. I’ve stuck with the frozen because it is a little cheaper. But, it does take up space in the freezer and stinks a little more! I only mix about an ounce in a few of their meals per week. They really love it! We give it a thumbs up.

    I’m guessing that it won’t be reviewed here because it might be considered more of a supplement. Just a guess, I really don’t know why for sure.

  • Deborah Smith

    Is there a review on the freeze dried green tripe? It says it is raw from them to your dogs bowl.

  • Amateria

    I just received the venison today and I also ordered the Sunday Pets senior their only use will be as always as a tasty healthy treat nothing more, because I’ve only started on it today ill need a lot more time to see how the dogs do on it and if the boy we have looks better on both these than he did with Ziwipeaks venison and fish and to change it up a bit, he hasn’t gotten anything different for like 5 packs now it was high time for a little more treat variety.

  • kat

    Looks like they had a formula change and all the formulas now includes vitamin/mineral supplementation as well as ingredients like kelp, flaxseed, etc. Should probably update the reviews of the freeze dried and frozen formulas!

    Anyone noticed any difference since the formula change? I kind of liked that they *didn’t* use synthetic vitamins/minerals… but maybe it wasn’t possible for it to be 100% balanced without it.

    I’ve been adding it to my Corgi’s Carna4. She was on Vital Essentials and did great on that… had to go to Carna4 for awhile for cost reasons and added a little VE freeze-dried beef patties to give her SOME raw nutrition. Tried the K9 Naturals Lamb Feast frozen as the topper this past week and she loves it and digests it very well–she does not love all raw brands, kinda picky. I assume it is the new formula, but I have to check. Going to try switching to the K9 Naturals 100% and see how she does. I assumed it was synthetic-free the way VE was, but apparently not anymore.

  • Pitlove

    If you are rehydrating it, that would explain it. They are getting their water from the food too, which is a very good thing!

  • Suzanne Whiffen

    We switch from kibble to K9 naturals about a month ago & same thing my little jack russel poops rocks! I have noticed she doesn’t seem to be drinking as much water though…

  • Crazy4cats

    The lamb is a lot lower in protein and higher in fat than some of their other meats. For example, the lamb is 23.8% protein while the chicken is 37.8%.

    Check it out! Here is a link to their website: http://www.k9natural.com/product-information/dog-food-range.htm

    I buy the K9 Natural’s frozen green lamb tripe for my dogs as a meal topper three days a week. They really love it.

  • David Ernie Ong

    any reason why their lamb and beef formulae are rated only 2 star?

  • Crazy4dogs

    I don’t see it on the recall list. There is a recall tab on DFA you can click on that lists all the recalls. Here’s the link:


  • Kaitlin Hornbaker

    Has the K9 Natural food ever been recalled?

  • Crazy4cats


    Our local feed store had a customer appreciation day last weekend. There was a K9 Natural representative there. She talked me into buying the frozen lamb tripe recipe. She told me it didn’t stink. Well……she lied! LOL! It really stunk when it thawed. However….my dogs really loved about 1/3 cup of it mixed in their kibble with an egg. Even my slow eater gobbled it up. (btw, I can’t look at him when he’s eating now, or he won’t eat) He has turned into the most quirky dog. Their poops were magnificent this morning. Sorry, no pictures. K9 Natural food is from New Zealand. I believe they also have freeze dried lamb tripe. Yum!!

    Unfortunately, I left the festivities before they busted out the mechanical bull and glitter tattoos! But, I did get to pop a balloon to win a buy one get one free coupon for Orijin treats and a free hot dog and chips. What a day!


  • Recent research is stating a ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 for Dogs includes a range from 10:1 to 5:1. And definitely not 3 times the amount of omega 3 to omega 6 as you just stated.


  • theBCnut

    The level you are saying is right is about where the Inuits and Japanese are with their diets that are almost completely fish based. Dogs diets are not supposed to be fish based.

  • Tash

    you want less omega 6 and more omega 3. Too much omega 6 can cause irritation to dogs joints and skin. Ratios should be 3:1 omega 3 to 6. Omega 6 is necessary for dogs health, but not too much. Most commercial food will have high levels of omega 6 because it is cheap

  • Nancy Calloway

    The Lamb and Tripe is 65% crude protein and 19% fat. Is THAT too out of sight?
    Maybe I should send this back.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Have you tried the LAMB AND TRIPE?

  • Nancy Calloway

    Hi Betsy:
    Did you ever try the K9 Naturals? I just got the Lamb and Tripe from Chewy.com. This bag is so light weight I cannot believe it and it was $16! It reconstitutes to the equivalent of 2.2 POUNDS of food. My GSD weighs 72 pounds and should have between 1 1/2 pounds to 2 pounds of raw food daily. I’m wondering WHAT was I thinking? Except that I think I didn’t KNOW to figure this out in advance.
    Tell me HOW you used this food, if you ever did. I am betting this Lamb and Tripe is a winner. Everyone at Chewy reported that it is great.
    now for your experience……
    Thank you.
    Nancy Calloway

  • Nancy Calloway

    EW/ Are you still liking the K9 Naturals? If so, how do you use the Lamb & Tripe and how MUCH do you feed that beautiful dog? How much does he weigh? My GSD weighs 72 pounds. This bag of Lamb and Tripe costs me $16 and I’m wanting to use it as economically as I can. Suggestions?
    Thank you.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Shawna: I hope you see this. I just ordered the Lamb and Tripe from Chewy. ( Dr. Mike has given it 5 stars. ) So it was $15.99 per bag. On the bag it says it hydrates to 2.2 POUNDS.
    Now my GSD is 72 pounds and according to the 2 to 3% of his weight I guess 1 1 /2 pounds per day is a good guess for amounts. But at THAT PRICE isn’t this pretty expensive or not?
    How would you suggest going about using this so I get the max benefit? For ex, one guess is to feed it only once in a day – not both meals. And I might feed it with another food perhaps or is this getting tricky?
    I will wait to hear about your suggestions. Thank you. Geeze I hope I didn’t make a mistake buying this.
    Nancy Jane Calloway

  • Nancy Calloway

    Shawna: Very interesting post. Now I’ve learned more information. Whew. Thank you. I am trying to identify raw commercial for our dogs and I had decided that Darwins, Vital Essentials, Answers were the ones I would start with once I can rotate. But now I am curious about what you would consider an acceptable fat amount for raw feeding. I have been concerned that perhaps Answers is on the high side. And I have read elsewhere that high fat in food is usually because cheaper meat cuts (and fat) are what contribute to that. Would you give me a percentage of fat that you think is safe? I understand that the protein should be double the fat percentage, ideally. Thank you. My dogs are a GSD 2 year old fairly active and a 10 yr old Golden.

  • shelly hancock

    I have 2 dogs on K9 Natural, the older one will be 15 years old next month, the younger 2 years old next month. I started the older dog on K9 about 4 years ago, and she’s always done great. In fact, when I first switched her over (she was eating a grain free kibble), she dropped her ‘middle-aged spread’ and leaned out nicely. For her age, she looks great and still has the energy to play with the pup, and the labs on her blood work all look great. The times I’ve tried switching her to a commercially prepared raw diet with lower fat content, her skin starts to get dry and flaky, and her coat gets rough feeling. But that’s just my dog, other dogs might be different. The same thing happened when I switched to the K9 chicken.

    Maybe getting full too soon is a problem for smaller breeds, or dogs that eat slowly, mine are both around 50 lbs and we never have a problem with not finishing a meal. The real proof of a food is what is does for the dog.

  • disqus_NsXk2VlHov

    It says on the website (FAQ from memory?) that freeze dried and frozen are exactly the same ingredients (but just different processes). ie the dried chicken will be the same ingreds as frozen chicken. I had the same question for awhile as I feed the frozen chicken on my lazy days (usually prey model raw).

  • banban

    The dog eating K9, fecal extremely dry, constipation in dogs. I guess because bone in too much? Long term constipation will cause the dog prolapse of the anus.

    For Stella & Chewy’s, Primal stool is very good, not dry, not constipation.

    I found the K9 of cat no bones of this component.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Coconut oil isn’t used as an omega 6 source, it’s actually rather low in omega 6 fatty acids. Coconut oil is predominantly comprised of saturated fats (~91%). The health benefits from coconut oil come from its high concentration of medium chain triglycerides – namely lauric acid which lends antiviral, antibacterial and antifungal properties.

    Olive Oil is most touted for its monounsaturated fat concentration, although it does contain other fats as well. The distribution of fats found in olive oil are (approximately): 14% saturated, 72% monounsaturated, 14% polyunsaturated. What olive oil is particularly renowned for is its high concentration of oleic acid (55-83%). Oleic acid is an omega 9 monounsaturated fat. Dogs don’t have a known requirement for omega 9 fatty acids so olive oil likely wouldn’t lend much benefit to a dog.

    For adding omega 3’s, any fish/marine oil will be a good source: salmon oil, sardine oil, squid oil, krill oil, etc. Cage-free eggs are a rich source as are fresh or tinned fatty fish such as salmons and sardines. There are many plant sources of omega 3’s as well including flax, chia, hemp and algae oil. With the exception of algae oil, the animal-based sources are preferable. The reason being, the omega ‘s found in animal-sources are in the form of Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA). EPA and DHA are readily used by the body. Plant-based sources are in the form of Alpha-linolenic acid (ALA) and must be converted into EPA and DHA by the body. This conversion process is very inefficient so it’s best to go with omega 3’s that are already in the form of EPA and DHA.

  • This might help:


    Also, nutritiondata.com lists the EFA content of some oils.

    Some other omega 3 sources are flax and chia, and algae, and of course the other various fish oils (sardine, anchovy, etc).

  • Guest2

    I know coconut oil is the “best” omega 6, other than salmon oil what is other rich omega 3’s?

    And what is olive oil, I thought it was 3 but I have also seen it has 6 properties…

  • Shawna

    AAFCO requires omega 6 linoleic acid in the canine diet but not any of the omega 3s. My guess is that is due to omega 3’s instability.

    As Sandy mentions, the ratio should be higher in omega 6 than in 3. Some suggest the acceptable ratio can be as high as 10 parts omega 6 to 1 part omega 3. From memory, ideal is closer to 3:1.

  • My recipe book says 2:1 to 6:1 omega 6 to 3. You have it backwards.

  • Guest2

    As far as I have seen, AAFCO doesn’t recognize omega fatty acids as an essential part of the diet so therefor it is the consumer to ensure this is supplemented if desired…

    What is the proper balance anyway? I thought it was like 2 : 1 for omega 3 : omega 6, meaning 2 parts omega 3 to one part omega 6??? Not sure though

  • banban

    As far as I know, K9 OMEGA 3, OMEGA 6 and the proportion are imbalance, especially in the chicken recipe.

  • Thanks for the tip. I’ll change my review to reflect that new information within the next few hours. Thanks again for your help.

  • Guest2

    On K9 Naturals website on the FAQ page they state that their food meets AAFCO requirements for all life stages… Maybe you wanna update the top of this page…

    This food looks to be 100% amazing! Their quality and their ingredients look as good as feeding fresh raw. I bought a bag of the venison. It smells gross though 🙂

  • Lis V

    Can you do a review for the frozen ones, please?

  • LawofRaw

    Yep, I can imagine your dad would have passed on the opportunity. People generally can’t handle the pungent odour of raw green tripe. But I would have done the same as you!

    I forgot to mention in my above post, not only is green tripe antioxidant potent, but also naturally potent in probiotics! Not that you need to be advised that. Just adding that piece of info for a reader that may not know.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    My dogs eat a lot of tripe – they get it at least three times a week. Luckily here in the US it’s not so difficult to get quality tripe thanks to Hare Today and My Pet Carnivore. This past fall I actually went out to the woods myself after my dad got a deer so I could get the tripe. He wouldn’t get it for me…oh the things I’ll do for tripe.

  • LawofRaw

    Today after work, I bought a K9 formula for the first time. I got the raw frozen green tripe (not the freeze dried version) as I can get the actual raw frozen version in Australia. I thought I’d get it also as a change up and the fact that green tripe in a more natural form is extremely difficult to obtain due to government regulations (apart from also being included in a raw and natural form in Dr. Bruce Symes’ Vets All Natural Health rolls), of which is unfortunate, since green tripe is so antioxidant potent for dogs, and is great as a once-in-a-while whole meal in a diet rotation.

  • Hi, Hound Dog Mom
    Good news, he didnt throw up his food. The tripe gave him a big help! Super amazing dog food. I will be keeping it around from now on. Highly recommend this K9 Natural Lamb Green Tripe ;D
    I will continue the venison and will give it a try for other flavours in the coming months.

    Many thanks, Hound Dog Mom!

  • Hi, Hound Dog Mom
    Thanks so much for your advise and the article. It’s really helpful. Yes, I will wait until he gets accustomed to it ; D

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Conie –

    Check out this article by Dr. Becker, it discusses some digestive issues than can result when first switching to raw and how to properly transition from a processed diet to a raw diet:


    And yes – you can mix venison and tripe, although you may want to wait until your dog gets accustomed to raw before mixing things.

  • Hi, there. My poor guy threw up soon after eating his Venison Feast Freeze Dried. It was his first raw meal. I tried half scoop the first meal then reduced his second meal but failed. He threw up! Tried the same way on second day :(( failed. I stopped on the third day continue again on fourth day….failed. What wrong with me or what wrong with him? I read your transition options. I chose the first option which I actually shouldn’t. Didn’t know he will throw up. He has no problem eating other dry dog foods. I feel bad bout it.
    Yesterday, I bought Lamb Green Tripe hoping that will help. I will feed him tomorrow morning. Hope he will not throw up the tripe too. By the mean time, do you have any ideas how to prevent him from throwing up? I really like the idea of raw and I hope to get some advise from you. Thanks so much and I really appreciate it. Oh ya, can I mixed half tripe and half venison?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Shawna mentioned the quality of meat when the fat content is so high.

  • InkedMarie

    Nope, I was talking about the numbers. The fat is higher than the protein.

  • InkedMarie

    I dint say anything about meat or quality of it. Suggested the low rating of the beef is because the fat is higher than the protein.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I believe InkedMarie is talking about trimmings. Meat with excessive amounts of fat are trimmed off from cuts for human consumption. Also cuts near the spine and around some organs are known to be areas of high fat, low meat.

  • Shawna

    Sorry for the multiple posts but I had an afterthought.

    The above referenced lamb diet has a calorie weighted basis of 20% from protein and 70% from fat. This is a diet that would be ideal for a working sled dog..

    From Mushing dot com

    “For many of the sporting breeds a high fat diet would be considered 30% of the total caloric intake. For sled dog purposes high fat diets generally range from 50-80% of the calories. From experience I can say that 50-60% of the calories in fat is safe to feed long term during training as long as the rest of the diet is balanced for protein, vitamins and minerals. Once you exceed 60% of the calories you must be careful because at this point fat starts to displace other nutrients, most notably protein, and you can run into serious problems if you feed these ultra high fat diets long term.” http://www.mushing.com/articles/content.php?vw=2,,8,620
    Protein displacement would happen faster in house dogs because they simply expend less energy and require less quantity of food.

  • Shawna

    Hi NVSandfly,

    Sorry for the delayed response. I babysit my two grandbabies (ages 3 and 2) four nights a week. Between the babies and my eight dogs I don’t have a lot of extra time in the evenings and am not on much.

    I think it is really hard to know if a dog is protein deficient until they are seriously deficient. The amino acids in proteins are used to make the enzymes that digest the food eaten, the enzymes that prevent cancer, the enzymes that make up the very cells of the body even.

    Think about hamburger — low fat 90% lean hamburger is more expensive than 70% fattier hamburger. Financially, leaner meats are superior.

    But, the nutritional aspect of lower fat meats is more important in my opinion. The below data is taken from the website nutrtionion data dot com (links provided).

    Ground beef from a grass fed cow has a total fat amount of 4 grams. Ground beef from a corn/soy etc cow is graded by amount of fat. Seventy percent is used for this example. Total fat amount of 8 grams.

    Now look at the type of fat of each. The grass finished meat has 1 gram of saturated fat while the 70% meat has 3 grams.

    The grass finished meat has an omega 6 to 3 ratio of 4.88:1 (which is ideal). While the 70% has a ratio of 9.82:1 (which is on the HIGH side of acceptable). The 70% food is going to be more inflammation causing than the grass finished. And even more fat is likely going to need to be added in the form of omega 3 fatty acids.

    There’s not a significant amount of vitamins and minerals in ground beef but those that are available are lower in the higher fat meat than the leaner meat ounce for ounce.

    Grass finished example http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/10526/2

    Seventy percent example http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/beef-products/8004/2
    Your dogs may not be fat on the higher fat food but they are not getting the same nutrients as they would from a lower fat food. Are they still getting enough? Maybe, I don’t know but I won’t put my own dogs in a postition to find that out.

    Also consider the fact that toxins are stored in fat. And cows (livestock) eating a diet that increases their marbeling (or fat) tend to be more toxic than leaner livestock as they are routinely given antibiotics, hormones and poor quality diets.

  • NVSandfly

    I’m still curious as to what you think low quality meat would consist of.

  • NVSandfly

    My dogs are also small dogs. I have two Chinese Cresteds which weigh 11 pounds and a 5 1/2 pound Chihuahua that are the ones eating the K9 Natural. I do rotate foods, but I feed mostly the K9 Natural as I buy it in the 8 pound box and want to use it up as quickly as I can. My dogs are not protein deficient or fat. I am curious to know what you think poor quality meat would consist of. Could you explain please?

  • Red

    Can’t speak for the dog formulas, but my cat has happily been eating this for about 4 months now. The protein to fat ratio is a good range for me (49-26), and she’s lost some of her extra “kibble” weight. Plus, I can actually find it in Canada, unlike many companies that make freeze-dried. Thumbs up from us!

  • Shawna

    I agree with InkedMarie,

    Because you rotate it may not be as big an issue but when the fat content is as high as it is in the lamb and beef the dog doesn’t eat as much because fat fills them up. For very active dogs that eat a lot of calories this is not a big issue. But my toy breed dogs could become protein deficient eating the lamb and beef foods as a main part of their diet.

    Also, a fat content this high (esp with the beef variety) is an indication that poor quality meat may be being used.

  • InkedMarie

    I took a look at the beef, the fat is higher than the potein, thats probably one of the reasons for its rating. As an FYI, fat should be around half the protein.

  • NVSandfly

    I have been feeding K9 Natural to my dogs for a few years now. I don’t agree that the two varieties are 2 star rating foods. I have never had any issue with my dogs being overweight as long as I fed them to maintain weight and not gain, unless one needs to gain weight. If one understands the nutritional value of the ingredients of the food they would know that extra vitamins should not be necessary for an otherwise healthy dog. That is especially true if other like foods are fed that do contain added vitamins and minerals. I rotate K9 Natural with Stella and Chewy’s and Vital Essentials foods as I believe rotation is better for the dogs than only one food each and every day. My dogs are all energetic, proper weight, clear eyes and happy, even temperaments. Their coats are shiny and full and their stools are good. I recommend all varieties highly.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I recommend ziwipeak airdried or Grandma Lucy’s pureformance. Both 5 star. I tried k9 and for some reason my dogs poop was like a rock and very dry.

  • EW/Winston

    Folks, I’ve been feeding our show dog k9 Nat off and on since last spring (others were Ziwipeak and Precise Holistic Grain Free Pork). NOTHING has given him the benefits that k9 natural provides. You can see him at http://www.facebook.com/winston.weber if you want to see how he looks on K9 Natural and track his progress.

  • Booboo

    To everyone who is considering K9 I can totally recommend this product. When my Molly was younger she had real bad problems with her stomach with spasms. I had her at 5 different vets and specialists and no one could tell me what the problem was but had us trying all sorts of dried food. Finally one day when I was making my own food I discovered it was the starch that upset her stomach. From then on I got Molly onto K9 and have never looked back. This is the only food she is allowed to eat apart from apples and sometimes a fresh rabbit that she catches. Just do it … Use K9.

  • Hi Sharron,

    I do agree with Patty on the varying ratings of K9 Natural – sounds like the Venison is going to be your best bet. I’ve used both the air dried and canned ZiwiPeak and like it – the air dried is very convenient.

    I read something recently about K9 Naturals that made me curious about it, so I did a little research – it has what I feel are some very positive traits – it’s GMO free; it’s made using whole foods with no added vitamins, minerals or supplements; it’s made in New Zealand like ZiwiPeak and all of the meats are sourced from free range, grass fed animals – meats are antibiotic and growth hormone free. I’m curious enough to try it myself.

    Now, one thing to consider is that ZiwiPeak is ready to feed and K9 Naturals has to be reconstituted with warm water.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Some of the K-9 Naturals flavors are not that good, 2 star.  All of Ziwipeaks flavors are 5 star.  However, rotating your dogs diet is the best way to keep his gut healthy, so you still might want to find a couple more good quality foods to switch between.

  • sharron


    what would be better to feed my yorkie/chihuahua, K9 Natural or Ziwipeak?


  • Pattyvaughn

    Bryan is right, that is what they say, however several of us use raw as a topper with no ill effect, so I attribute it to an old wives tale or particular dogs may have a problem with it but not all.

  • BryanV21

    The way I understand it, raw food digests at a different rate than kibble, therefore feeding them at the same time is not ideal.

  • MegK

    I just started giving my dog the vension freeze dried but I don’t understand why on the bag it says not to combine it with kibble.  I thought you needed to do a slow transition when introducing new foods and to mix the old food with the new food for a few days.  I have been giving her turkey breast mixed with green beans and a little ziwi peak but she is started not to want to eat it so I thought I would use this as a little topper to give her something different.  Is it a bad thing to mix this with other food?? 

  • EvesHumanMom

    So I ordered a bag of the freeze-dried tripe.  We use it, reconstituted, as a topper for her soaked kibble.  Once soaked it is as stinky as the Tripett.  I scoop out only as much as we need, mash it more finely with a fork and let it soak overnight.   Have been using it pretty much once a day for the past three weeks to no ill effect other than the dog sometimes gets even more excited than usual. 

  • 5/09 LWNV

    I do feed this as the sole diet for my dog and I have nothing but praise for it. My dog has tried a lot of the raw diets (and a few kibbles in hopes of gaining wright) over the past 3 years and these past few months have been her healthiest.

  • Shawna

    5/09 LWNV ~~ This food is really only appropriate for extremely active dogs due to the higher fat content (it is HIGH compared to other “raw” foods)—-70% of the calories comes from fat..  That’s a lot..  Most dogs, with normal to lower activity levels, would not meet their protein needs on this food as they would get full from the fat before eating enough.

    My Chihuahua’s and Pomeranian’s would become fat and, at the same time, protein deficient on this food.

  • 5/09 LWNV

    This is a really great product. My Brittany has been on this food for several months. She is an extremly actve dog that looses weight in the spring and summer months due to her higher activity levels. She loves to hunt and never stops moving. 

    She responds better to raw and freeze dried. And I happen to dislike kibble (after all we do not cook our food to such a dry state that it resembles rocks and eat it – why should our pets??).

    On this product she has not lost the typical weight that is dropped every spring. She is lean and all muscle (usually by June you can see every rib no matter how much I feed her) with a great coat that gets tons of compliments. I mix the beef with the venison or the lamb as I do not the consitancy of the venison and lamb.

    I have never tried the tripe, but I do feel based soley on my dog’s response to the food that it deserves higher marks.

  • Shawna

    WOW, I agree with Hound Dog Mom!!  This food is ridiculously high in fat. 

    Lamb is a higher fat meat.  Marrow bones are high in fat as well — wonder if they use marrow bones?

    If a food is too high in fat, the theory is, the pup will get full before he/she satifies his/her dietary need for protein..  Since protein is the most important macronutrient, this would be a bad thing…

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I think they just use fatty cuts of meat. I feed my dogs a slightly higher fat content than normal – the ideally fat should be 50% of protein, I feed my dogs fat that’s 60% – 80% of protein – because they’re so active, but this is even fattier than anything I’d feed. There is actually more fat than protein. This would be fine for maybe a few meals a week or as a topper for a high quality kibble, but I’d never recommend it as a sole diet.

  • Hi, what exactly makes this food have a high fat content?  The ingredients seem to not present a lot of fat in themselves.  Also all users of this food how have your dogs reacted to this food?

  • EvesHumanMom

    Thanks Hound Dog Mom.  If I get the freeze-dried, I can reconstitute it as needed and not have to have frozen  hockey pucks of canned in the freezer.  She eats raw grasshoppers, skinks and cicadas, nymphs and adults with no adverse effect, so I think she should be okay, especially if there will be more nutrients.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi EvesHumanMom,

    In my opinion this would be a better option than Tripett. The K9 Natural’s product freeze-dried raw tripe, uncooked and with no additives so it will have retained more of the nutrients of raw. Tripett is cooked so all of the enzymes and probiotics are destroyed, they add vegetable gum, and the cans are lined with BPA (I believe). Just make sure you add water to the freeze dried because it’s so low moisture.

    Edit: As for the not adding to kibble, I think it would be fine. Some advise not to mix raw and kibble, but as long as it doesn’t upset your dog’s stomach it shouldn’t be an issue – many people do it.

  • EvesHumanMom

      Is there a big difference with this and Tripett?  I use the Tripett as a topper, with no problems.  Would it be okay to use the freeze dried tripe, or not?The directions say not to feed the tripe with kibble.  I am wondering why not?

  • Fika

     There is no such thing as normal poop.  Different foods produce different stools.  If your dogs are on one food and only eating that food and that’s because you have an idea of normal poop, than you are doing your dogs a disservice.

  • Neysha

    I feed both my Goldies Raw food and it was very difficult taking them on vacation or away for a few days. I now use K9 Beef for all my Trips. It s great for a few days or upto 2 weeks. It does not replace fresh met 100% but is a very alternate

  • Sbartlett

    In terms of K9 Natural and it’s fat
    content, as a scientist I can only entertain evidence based, published research
    on this topic. This as opposed to a arbitrary value determined comparatively
    based on other dog food products. To that end all K9 Natural products fit
    comfortably within all such research (please see below). Furthermore all other
    nutrients within our products again, have be extremely well crafted purely from
    natural, raw sources to meet all such recommendations, without the need for
    synthetic vitamin and mineral packs. I hope this helps you, please remember all
    values presented below on a dry matter basis.






    AAFCO  (2011)

    All lifestages

    Growth and repair 8.0 %

    Maintenance 5.0%

    NRC (2006)

    Minimal/maximal levels

    Beyond the need to supply appropriate EFA’s, an MR of total
    fat for dogs and cats is unknown

    Ivy (1936)

    Axelrod et al, (1951).

    Minimal/maximal levels

    Studies have demonstrated tolerate for 40% fat in diet

    NRC (2006)

    Minimal/maximal levels

    Minimum dietary fat RA 5%. No evidence to change this
    recommend  from earlier estimates

    Downey et al (1980)

    Adkins and Kronfeld (1982)

    Minimal/maximal levels

    SUL for dietary fat approximately 70% ME

    Bauer et al (2000)

    Lepine et al (2000).


    Canine milk fat content multiplied by .3 Result consistent fat
    needs reported previously

    NRC (2006)


    Total fat SUL for canine growth similar to that for adults

    Meyer et al (1979)


    3-5 month old puppies  fed diets containing from 8-14 g
    fat.kg BW-1 for 3 months without any negative effect.

    Ontko et al (1957)

    Gestation and Lactation

    Total dietary fat to support gestation and lactation greater
    than  maintenance

    NRC (2006)

    Gestation and Lactation

    Studies precisely establishing the MR for total fat have yet
    to be conducted.


    Gestation and Lactation

    Data indicates 7.7% total fat resulted in successful

  • Shelby

    Oh no! About 4 months ago, I bought two 8.8lb boxes of k9 natural  lamb as a transition for my dogs to go from kibble to raw. I havent fed k9 natural to my dogs yet because I am still in the process of researching more about BARF.

    I was wondering if anyone knew what I could do to alleviate the high fat content. (It is horrifying that the lamb version cannot be recommended.)

    I understand that I would need to feed more protein with little fat, but I need to somehow incorporate raw meaty bones into my dogs’ diets. What kind of raw meaty bones? What about the meat to bone ratio? I’m still a beginner with BARF.

    Any suggestions from raw feeders will gladly be appreciated! Thank you!

  • Hi Alex,

    Unfortunately, when I recently revisited this product line I discovered new recipes and new products.

    And based upon our new emphasis on the fat content of each dog food, I was compelled to downgrade my initial rating.

    For a more detailed explanation, please read my summary in “The Bottom Line” section of this review. Hope this helps.

  • Alex V

    I thought this was a 5 star food? Was I mistaken?

  • Shane

    Karen this link will give you a brief look inside one of the factories 

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I tried two bags of this food – hydrating the food for 15 minutes before feeding – and both of my dogs had dry crumbly poop. i went back to Ziwipeak airdried and they were back to normal. 

  • Karen

    How about the K9 Natural raw, which I just bought. Since I’ve been making my own raw dog fodd for 3 years, I need a break once in a while…can you guys get the Raw one reviewed? Looks pretty good to me. But then again, Im not in the plant where its made, I would like to be, I have a hard time trusting any of them.

  • Gordon

    Richard – I’m aware that Labrawsome is Michelle. I could tell under the other thread when she responded to an old comment of mine, by her gravatar, and by something else, that I’ll with hold saying as it will get her even more upset, lmao.

    That story about the cancer in the neck is very believable and not surprising, but is astonishing and yet another stamp of the power of Mother Nature.

    I hope that all the world’s medical practices do one day, embrace the power of this magnificent ability, dogs possess.

  • Gordon

    I posted a note to Michelle, who has gone incognito as labsRawesome to try and distance herself from having admitted that I’m the only Richard in her life, about a Labs ability to sense cancer.

    I don’t remember the thread it was on and I miss the ability to go back through hundreds of recent posts to find where it was – if that ability exists on this new software I haven’t figured it out yet – so if someone knows how to do it please let me know.

    I have a customer who had a dinner party for 14 people, some of whom she had never met before. Her Lab would not leave this one gentleman alone and kept crawling into his lap and licking his neck. She couldn’t stop him from doing it and the man told her he didn’t really mind. At the end of the night, as the man left, he confided to his host that he had just been told he had some form of cancer (I don’t remember the tuype) in his neck – right where her Lab was licking all night.

  • Gordon

    Yep Toxed. I do endorse probiotic and enzyme supplementation to those pet meals of non raw and in apartments.

  • Gordon

    I just noticed the comments of your here, Toxed. That’s interesting that your poodle is being trained to alert you to trace toxins. I wonder if she can smell any mercury in raw fish, and is why she won’t eat it. Or may be she just doesn’t like raw fish.

    There’s a vet in Australia (Can’t remember his name) who has recently tried to convince the human medical establishment to keep a dog in their surgeries as a medical tool in the diagnosis of early stage cancers in their patients. As it has been proven that dogs can even pick on cancer odours.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I find the large bag of ziwipeak airdried to be a much better value and quality is also excellent.

  • Sbartlett


  • Dave M,
    Our dogs are individuals, aren’t they? LOL My standard poodle will eat anything you put in front of her except raw fish… I found that if I cooked it the teensiest bit, more like warm it up, and put a little yogurt or sourcream on it, she likes it again. Since I trust her nose over my nose, I’m guessing that there’s something about it raw she doesn’t like, that a little cooking makes safer. PS, she’s my service dog and Is being trained to alert to trace toxins.

  • Hi Gordon 🙂
    I had read previously that you fed RMBs outdoors so your dogs can get soil probiotics. I posted what I do (because I’m often imprisoned in the house by neighbors spraying) and it occurred to me that apartment dwellers and people that don’t have yards, might not feed RMBs or raw because they wouldn’t want it on the floor. I should have included that I add a probiotic to their bowl. 😉

  • Mark

    I feed my Lab twice a day 12 hours apart, can I feed her the K-9 for one meal and kibble and canned food ther other?

  • kayi078

    why cant i use this as my dog’s sole diet??

  • Gordon

    Dave M – At least that’s a good compromise 🙂

    kayi078 – The protein isn’t too high at all, but the fat maybe if you don’t use this product as a rotation and feed it only.

    I agree with the opinion that the fat content of any given meal should be around 50% of what the protein level is, and the carbohydrate level at the most, half of what the fat content is, if at all.

    So this product should not be used as a sole diet for any sized dog IMO.

  • kayi078

    is 40% protein and 3x% fat too much for a 7lb yorkie?

  • Dave M


    My one hound will eat raw (almost anything put in front of her) my male however will eat raw fish without any problem – but all other raw meats including a steak or chicken he will not touch. He also wont eat a RMB until my female has devoured it – then he will chew on the bone (once it is clean). The air dried or freeze dried in addition to canned is a good compromise. Ziwipeak is raw canned and he loves it.

  • Dave M

    Does anyone know how many calories are in each (provided scoop) scoop? I am trying this for the evening meal

  • Gordon

    That’s interesting about antlers, shedding and feeding them when fresh, Toxed2loss. The same principle applies as not to feed cooked bones to dogs for the fact that it alters the matrix and gives rise to greater probability of splinting. Raw plus fresh is best.

    My dogs eat their RMB’s and carcasses etc anywhere they like outside just like in Nature where they have the freedom to drag their scavenge of kill where they want to indulge in it, as Lonsdale recommends. However, they’ll eat their BARF style prepared meals from their bowls.

  • We give fresh antler pieces to our dogs to chew. They don’t have blood by hunting season. They are “horn” like, grow each season, dry up and fall off, or are shed, at the end off the season. When they are fresh, they won’t splinter, and so are safe. While we have numerous racks from years past we don’t feed them, too dry. Of course, some have special significance and I can’t touch those.

    As for raw food, I feed it in the kennel. They are trained to keep it in there, as I don’t want the grease on any of the floors. Leerburg taught me that.

  • Gordon

    Antelope and elk “antlers” was the term I was looking for.

    Also blood is natural in sodium and is Nature’s provided salt for dogs. But RMB’s and with out offal, such as chicken wings and frames, for example won’t drip any blood, but would smudge ca carpet by way of greasy moisture. Again, outside is the best place to feed all RMB’s.

  • Gordon

    Martin – Yes, but not in the way you’re thinking. Some are more bloody than others, but all meat if squeased like a sponge will leak blood. Normally there is more blood in offal (the organs). However, either way I don’t think Nature had in mind for dogs to eat these off made made floors like carpet. Basically, you’re meant to feed RMB’s and general raw meals to your dogs, outside, in the back yard. Mother Nature and your dog takes care of the rest as far as cleaning is concerned.

    However, with out knowing your situation, I understand that there are dog owners who live in apartments with out front or back yards, who own inside dogs of toy and small breeds. In this case, I usually recommend those, take their dogs outside in a public park or any piece of land with grass or dirt or even concrete such as the foot path (side walk), and feed them their raw serving there, at meal time. You could kill 2 birds with one stone and also take them for a walk afterwards, or before hand.

    I’ve read some in these types of situations (That live in apartments), feed clean raw bones with out any chance of mess or dripping like antelope or deer bones….or did I get the animal or name wrong? I don’t feed these types of bones, but apparently they leave no mess on carpets for people in those types of situations. They’re apparently more expensive as well. But IMO, these bones lack the surrounding meat/protein to accompany the calcium and minerals in bones that dogs need when eating RMB’s. However, those types of bones will at least still naturally clean canine teeth.

  • Martin

    Are raw meaty bones bloody at all? I don’t want any stains on the carpet or on my dog for that matter.

  • Gordon

    I just realised, I wrote, “probably” in the context of the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs above, which I meant to write “properly”.

  • Gordon

    Dave M – They would eat raw, but are probably so not used to it. I think from your other posts, I would not try and convince you as you seem entrenched in your own beliefs. But at least you are feeding air-dried raw, now.

    BTW, probably handled raw meats are dangerous bacteria-free, especially muscle meat. You buy it from human sources like butchers and abattoirs, then put it in the freezer, then thaw a serving in the fridge from the morning so it is fridge-thawed by dinner, and you are as safe as can possibly be.

    Top that with probably wiping bench tops down and maintaining easy post raw meat handling kitchen keeping and it is all good!

    I prefer natural surface cleaners to clean my bench tops etc, and dogs’ bowls and I use 3% H2O2 & white vinegar (ACV is OK too) and then you have the most potent disinfectant the world over. And it is all NATURAL AND SAFE! And if you forget to wipe down what you sprayed, the residues will break down and dry safely, and the 3% H2O2 with turn into 100% H2O after a certain time exposed to light, and nothing could be safer. No need to waste money on harsh synthetic chemical based cleansers!

  • Dave M

    I picked K9 dehydrated this weekend (I think it is an excellent product) and I rotate between kibble and canned (primarily ziwipeak and natures logic) in am and ziwi peak dehydrated and canned in evening (no kibble). I am impressed with K9 and will try it for the month and see how it goes. I don’t want to handle raw and one of my dogs won’t eat any eat raw unless dehydrated or canned like ziwipeak. Which works better for me as well.

  • Gordon

    Yeah Martin – This food is not really sufficient on its own. RMB’s would compliment this food for dogs that much better.

    RMB’s like marrow bones, soup bones, chicken necks, wings, frames, turkey necks, wings, frames, lamb brisket, beef brisket, raw whole fish, rabbit bones and carcasses, and generally any ruminant carcasses, lamb shanks, legs etc etc etc and so on and more and you get the idea.

    Yeah, you can some or all the above in places like butcher shops, fresh meat suppliers, abattoirs, some farms, etc.

    And remember, a raw meaty bone a day, keeps the vet away.