Wysong Archetype Burgers (Freeze-Dried)


Rating: ★★★★★

Wysong Archetype Burgers Dog Food receives the Advisor’s top rating of rating of 5 stars.

The Wysong Archetype Burgers product line includes one freeze dried, raw recipe, a recipe claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient guidelines for all life stages.

Wysong Archetype Burgers

Dehydrated Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 52% | Fat = 29% | Carbs = 12%

Ingredients: Beef, beef organs, chicken, beef bone, beef fat, beef blood, natural flavor, carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress, spinach, broccoli sprouts, flaxseeds, organic barley grass, organic wheat grass, algae, apple, blueberry, cranberry, plums, lecithin, seaweed-derived calcium, grape seed extract, calcium lactate, coral calcium, sage extract, rosemary extract, choline bitartrate, minerals (potassium chloride, zinc proteinate, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, iron proteinate, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese sulfate, manganese proteinate, sodium selenite, calcium iodate), calcium carbonate, vitamins (ascorbic acid [source of vitamin C], vitamin E supplement, niacin supplement, calcium pantothenate, vitamin A supplement, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid), dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus plantarum fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus lactis fermentation product

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 2.9%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis50%28%NA
Dry Matter Basis52%29%12%
Calorie Weighted Basis39%53%9%
Protein = 39% | Fat = 53% | Carbs = 9%

The first ingredient in this dog food is beef. Beef is defined as “the clean flesh derived from slaughtered cattle” and includes skeletal muscle or the muscle tissues of the tongue, diaphragm, heart or esophagus.1

Beef is naturally rich in all ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.

The second ingredient is beef organs. Organ meat is typically low in fat and rich in protein.

The third ingredient is chicken, another quality raw item.

The fourth ingredient is beef bone, an excellent source of natural calcium.

The fifth ingredient is beef fat. Beef fat (or tallow) is most likely obtained from rendering, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Although it may not sound very appetizing, beef fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The sixth ingredient is beef blood, which consists mostly of water. And although it doesn’t sound very appetizing to humans, blood is naturally rich in protein (albumin), vitamins and minerals.

After the natural flavor, we find a series of nutrient-rich vegetables

  • Carrots
  • Celery
  • Beets
  • Parsley
  • Lettuce
  • Watercress
  • Spinach
  • Broccoli sprouts

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With four notable exceptions

First, wheat grass is prized for its vitamin and mineral content. Yet unlike wheat, wheat grass is gluten-free. So, please ignore our software’s unfavorable treatment of this nutritious ingredient.

Next, flaxseed is one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

In addition, we note the use of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Wysong Archetype Burgers Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Wysong Archetype Burgers looks like an above-average freeze-dried raw product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 52%, a fat level of 29% and estimated carbohydrates of about 12%.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 56%.

Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical raw dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a raw product containing an abundance of meat.

Bottom line?

Wysong Archetype Burgers is a meat-based freeze-dried raw product using a significant amount of beef and chicken as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the product 5 stars.

Enthusiastically recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

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Notes and Updates

06/25/2016 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  • Judie Holtz Welch

    As the article says, I have been finding out that protein restriction is not currently recommended in renal compromised dogs, but rather decreased phosphorus. I was concerned though because that Wysong food has HIGH protein, which I would be reluctant to use.

  • Judie Holtz Welch

    Thanks, Pitlove. I appreciate your comments. In doing research over these past few days, I have noted what you have said about prescription diets as well. Ive found recipes for home made diets, which I am going to use for now until I can get her to a vet. I inherited my parents elderly Bichon (they are both in nursing homes now), who was fed grocery store junk food! No wonder the poor thing has failing kidneys!

  • Pitlove

    Hi Judie-

    The short and the long of it is no, this product would not be suitable for a dog in renal failure or with kidney disease.

    We understand from the literature and research that high protein does not actually cause kidney damage, but rather some underlying cause. However, when the kidneys are compromised, which from the sound of it they are for your dog, a low protein, low phosphorus and low magnesium diet is indicated. Dr. Wysong outlines this is the link provided below.

    The only diets on the market that will acheive what is needed for a dog with compromised kidneys would be a theraputic diet from your vet such as K/D.

    Wysong Archetype appears to meet the nutrient profile for maintenance, so I do not know why the other poster suggested mixing it with a lower quality food.

  • haleycookie

    Yes the burgers can be fed as a complete meal by themselves. They are balanced to aafco standards. Also this article on wysongs website explains kidney issues and high protein dog food. http://www.wysong.net/HighProteinPetFoodsandKidneyDisease

  • Judie Holtz Welch

    This food was recommended for dogs with kidney disease. I know low protein diets are no longer recommended but this food is high in protein! Is that a concern? Also, it doesn’t list the phosphorus level, which is supposed to be more important consideration than protein. Is this really a good food for renal compromised dogs? Also a commenter said not to feed this solo but to mix it with other food. Is this correct?

  • amanda

    this food must be added to another food! do not feed this on its own! it is meant to be added to a lesser quality food!

  • Kayla

    Thanks for the review. Some people complain about their dogs have bad odor and I will tell them it’s either the diet they are feeding their dog or http://www.caninetips.org/infections/dog-ear-infection-symptoms-causes-and-treatments/ … Obviously, feeding our dogs with quality dog food is a must nowadays!

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  • Shawna

    Cheri ~~ Yes, imo, Dr. Mercola’s doggy enzymes are not some of but rather —¬†the best —¬†I have come across..¬†

    Tripe is an excellent addition — especially if raw.¬† But do rotate just like anything else.¬† Audrey became allergic to cow tripe too (she developed leaky gut from barley (long story)).¬† She can eat venison, elk and sheep tripe though.¬† I haven’t been able to source those raw and¬†local..

  • Cheri

    Shawna, thank you for all of the helpful¬†information!¬†¬†I have Dr. Mercola’s digestive enzymes ordered, is that what you are talking about?¬† Hopefully those are some of the best ones out there…if not…I’m taking suggestions…¬† ūüôā¬†¬†¬† Also, I forgot to mention in my¬†previous e-mail that¬†I’m also looking at adding Tripe to the raw diet for the benefits that that¬†may provide.¬† Surely something sometime soon will be the cure!!

  • Shawna

    LOL Cheri ~~ I wouldn’t worry too much about bone :)..¬† Not one of the common allergens.¬† Audrey has had kidney disease since birth (she will be 6 soon) and has a few considerations that other dogs might not.¬† My only point was that it is not always the common stuff and different parts of an animal may be tolerated while others are not..

    Chick Peas are a legume and legumes can be as problematic as grains..¬† DOESN’T mean they will be but they CAN.¬† Aimee has commented that any food can be problematic and I totally agree with that statement.¬† Last week I was working with a gal locally and we are pretty sure the green beans in her raw fed diet are causing issues for one of her dogs.?¬† When you add in the foods that you plan on feeding — do so one at a time and wait a week or two before adding in the next.¬† That way if there is a reaction you know exactly what food caused it.

    Also research enzymes.  Even though raw foods naturally have enzymes, even wolves get a supplemental source from the stomach contents, stomach lining, pancreas, buried bones etc.  Dogs that are digesting their food are far less likely to develop additional allergies.  Probiotics are helpful too.

    Let us know how things are going as you progress along.  AND GOOD LUCK getting that just right, healthy balance for all your furkids.

  • Cheri

    Wow, Shawna…I’d never have imagined a dog could be allergic to bone!¬† Thanks for putting THAT worry in my head now!!¬† lol¬†¬†¬† I’m now worried about food¬†that contains¬†chicken, grains, including brown rice, canola oil and potatoes.¬† All of the labels are starting to run together and there are only a handful that I can get locally.¬† So far I think I’ve narrowed it down to staying on the raw beef/organ meat, trying Nature’s Instinct Variety Raw Frozen Lamb Patties, and Earthborn Great Plains Feast Grain Free and also Dogswell Nutrisca Salmon and Chickpea Recipe with a rotation of TOTW.¬†¬†Does anyone see a problem with any of this?¬† Ideally, I want to get my current dog, Sadie, back in good health and then get her and my other three dogs all eating a healthy, raw meat and kibble mixed diet.

  • There’s some new ones now.¬† Innova Prime, AvoDerm Natural Revolving Menu.¬† There’s also Canine Caviar grain free, Wellness Core Ocean, Grandma Lucy’s Pureformance, Back to Basics, Great Life Grain Free, Taste of the Wild Sierra Mountain and Pacific Stream, Horizon Pulsar, Earthborn Holistic Meadow Feast and Ocean, Timberwolf Ocean.

  • Shawna

    Hi Cheri ~~¬† If your pup really is allergic to chicken muscle meat¬†then you won’t be able to feed any amount of chicken muscle meat without causing a reaction — even if it was near the end of the ingredient list.¬† However, you may be able to feed chicken liver or gizzards or heart or fat even if allergic to the muscle meat.¬†

    Here’s an example in my home — my dog Audrey is allergic to cow bone but can eat the muscle meat, heart, liver etc.¬† Just NO bone.¬† She was diagnosed via elimination diet so the bone allergy is an absolute certainty.¬† She was fed raw ostrich as her meal and dehydrated goat as her treats during the novel protein elimination diet (for three months).

    I don’t know the foods as well as some of the others so hopefully they will be on and can give you some foods to consider.. ūüôā¬† Chicken fat should not be a major concern so that will allow many foods that would otherwise have to be avoided..

  • Cheri

    So this might be a dumb question, but here goes….if I am suspicious that my dog might be allergic to chicken do I have to go with a food that is entirely 100%¬†free of any chicken at all, or will it be okay if it’s not the top 3-4 ingredients?¬† I’m willing to spend the $77 for Brothers Red Meat Protein to give my dog a break from the Diamond Naturals Chicken and Brown Rice formula and¬†most recently the Premium Edge Healthy weight formula (where chicken is the #1 ingredient) to get her away from chicken, but I see in their ingredient list for the beef, the 7th ingredient is chicken fat followed by dried chicken liver.¬† She does seem to be doing better on just the raw beef/organ meat I’ve been giving her the last few days, but¬†at some point I want to put at least some¬†kibble back in the mix.¬† If no chicken at all is my only option, can anyone suggest an excellent grain free dry kibble without chicken or brown rice?

  • One of my overweight fosters quit his “fog horn” coughing when he lost weight!!¬† He was very top heavy.¬†¬†29 lbs down to 24.¬† Able to play and go for long walks with no cough problems. The vet did put him on steroids and cough tab in the beginning (1 round).

  • Shawna

    I’ve had two dogs with a collapsing trachea — Audrey¬†and Peanut.¬† Audrey’s was bad enough that at 4 weeks old she began to fail to thrive due to not getting enough nutrition from her mom (despite the breeder giving her access with the other pups removed)..

    Anyhoo, the collapse has repaired itself in both dogs.¬† At least the vet can no longer feel the collapse and neither dog has honking symptoms any longer.¬†¬†Peanut was¬†actually¬†xrayed¬†for another reason and they included the throat so we could see if it was truly no longer collapsing and it wasn’t.¬† I’m left to assume that adequate nutrition, started at a very young age,¬†helped build up the cartlidge??

    Personally, I wouldn’t use a collar with any of my toy breed pups.¬† May not cause collapsing trachea but even in large dogs (if the dog or human jerks inappropriately) it can cause chiropractic issues.¬† I have not trained mine to be good walkers though ;).

  • Toxed2loss

    Hi Mike P,

    We’ve had 3 Poms, and 1 of them had the collapsing trachea. She belonged to my daughter. We do use choke chains. When used correctly they are safe and effective. Our (then) vet chewed her out one visit because of the collapsing trachea. He blamed her and accused her of mistreating her dog. (needless to say he & I had a few words). Several years later, we dropped in to pay a vet bill for my husband. He came out and apologized, saying that he’d recently attended a lecture and the cause is “entirely” genetic. It isn’t caused by choke chains or collars.

    That being said, I agree with you that environment effects overall health and dirty air will exacerbate a weakened genetic flaw. Just my 2¬Ę. ūüôā

  • Mike P

    Thanks Melissa.Mary Lou mentioned a harness but Zoey is never on a leash so that would not be a cause.My wife talked with her sister and she will be home Thursday and will take her to the vet.Zoey had a quiet night last night so we are hoping for the best.She is very active and plays with Jubilee like a pup.When Jubilee starts to shake her toys like a crazy woman Zoey takes a seat next to one of us and watches.I still suspect smokers cough and hope it isn’t heart disease.

  • Cheri

    Addie, thank you for your tips and the link.¬† Sadie is overweight because I’ve been putting all the pills I’ve been feeding her (joint, respiratory, salmon)¬†2-3x a day in treats (made from organic sprouted spelt flour, organic greens powder, coconut oil and¬†peanut butter).¬† Over the last several months, she’s gained weight, but I didn’t realize how much until we went to the vet and she was weighed.¬† I now have cut out all treats and am giving her her¬†pills in¬†the raw meat.¬† She is getting salmon oil pills and I also have recently put her on Joint Fx which has worked better than the Consequin DS with msm that she’s been on for well over a year.¬† Her dry kibble, which she just started, but I¬†was instructed by the Pawhealer people to stop for the time being and just feed her the raw meat, is for weight reduction.¬† With the¬†winter weather,¬†she has not been getting the exercise she needs, but hopefully with some better weather in the next coming month, we’ll get a regimen started.¬† I massaged her hips and back today and tonight and she seems fine now, thank goodness.¬† An old injury to her ankle? on her back leg also makes her a bit unstable, so we have a few issues that keep her from being a jump up and go girl….more like a get up easily and then go girl.¬† lol

  • Addie

    As far as her falling/being in pain, 
    http://dogaware.com/health/arthritis.html. Being at a healthy weight is really important for dogs with joint issues, so try to start exercising her more/cutting back on her food intake, as well as making sure she gets fish oil, and glucosamine. 

  • Mary Lou

    melissa ~ I second what you said about the collapsing trachea. We were told at Dupree’s very first vet appt. to use a harness on him rather than a collar.

  • melissa

     HI Mike P-

    Small breeds, especially toy poodles, are known for a condition called “collapsing trachea” and can result in a wheezing/coughing fit-ith as nothing to do with the owners being smokers. One other thing to keep in mind, is that coughing fits only at bedtime/night can be indicative of heart diesease.

  • Cheri

    Aww…Mike, glad to hear the toy poodle is doing better.¬† Just getting away from a smoky environment probably does wonders.¬† I’m not sure why, but my dog, Sadie, only seems to cough when she’s resting comfortably or napping.¬† It doesn’t seem to matter how she is lying, either.¬† As she rests, her breathing is heavy, sometimes heavier than other times.¬† After reading some of the posts about dogs being allergic to chicken or rice, after being on¬†it too long, I’m paranoid about almost all food, which is why she is only getting grass fed beef/organ meat, at the moment.¬† In the perfect world, I’d be a millionaire and could afford to spend the money¬†to feed her that every other day with some fish and venison the other days, for the rest of her life,¬†but since my funds are not limitless, I’m trying to find the best raw food to supplement between the beef, other than chicken.¬† As a matter of fact, I just bought some baby chicks that I’m going to raise¬†for cage free-organic¬†eggs, so I worry giving Sadie or any of my other 3 outside dogs chicken or¬†eggs, probably isn’t the best move.¬† Sadly, I live next to a farmer who has cattle, so beef probably isn’t the best idea either, and the people around me¬†who hunt deer, probably wouldn’t appreciate my deer chasing dogs.¬† Soooo….that leaves salmon, which I¬†tried last spring with the Taste of the Wild.¬† It gave my lab (who prefers to be inside and within sight) pretty bad gas, and for a¬†30 lb. bag,¬†with 4 dogs over 55 lbs., it went fast.¬† I’m thinking about putting another grain free flavor like the¬†bison and venison in the rotation so I can get all my dogs on the same page.¬† None of the others have any issues, except the Lab, who¬†has had a little allergy type issue around June the last two years on her chest.¬† I felt like it was from her going through the weeds at the time, but maybe it was a diet issue also?¬† I bathed her in some medicated shampoo and her breakout went away, so I’m hoping that’s all it was.¬†¬†

  • Mike P

    Update…The toy was running around the house with the Boxer and just had a little coughing session.She is not out of breath though.

  • Mike P

    Hi Cheri we are sitting for a toy poodle for the last month.My wife’s sister’s dog. They go to Florida for the moth of Feb and first 2 weeks of March.She came to us with a cough.She would have a cough fit at bedtime each nite. I started giving her what I feed my dog.Grain free,real meat 3 times a week,sardines,tumeric,fish oil,and now some garlic.Good news,her cough is almost totally gone.She lives in a smokers house so my guess that’s the problem.Our house is smoke free.I think I may just have to keep her.

  • Cheri

    I’m trying to get my dog well and have searched all over the web and read several posts under several foods on here and I am confused beyond belief.¬† I have a 12 year old female mixed breed dog that started coughing last summer.¬† It was a “something stuck in her throat” kind of cough with no mucus or phlegm or anything else with it.¬† She was and had been eating Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice dog food, which as I had researched on here beforehand, was a pretty high quality food.¬† Since her cough didn’t seem to go away on it’s own after a few weeks, I took her to the vet, who put her on antibiotics.¬† They helped, but did not eliminate the cough.¬† The vet had said if they didn’t get rid of the cough, she recommended a chest x-ray.¬† I began researching natural remedies, so as not to put my dog through poking and prodding or a costly vet trip for Rx med’s which I am not a fan of at all.¬† After a few months of trying different natural remedy and remedy combinations, I decided to take her back to the vet for x-rays to see if there was a reason why the natural products were not curing the cough.¬† The vet diagnosed her with Bronchiestatis, also known an “Missouri Lung” due to allergies.¬† My dog has never been in a smoking environment and has always been an outside dog in the country, so that seemed a bit weird, but whatever.¬† The vet put her on prednisolone until she was re-stocked in Natural Hydrocortizone, and tells me unless I move out of the state, my dog will have to be on this medication for life.¬† Around 3 weeks on it, and she still has a slight cough…some¬†evenings worse than others.¬† (evening time is the worst for her for some reason).¬† I have had her indoors now 95% of the time-she sleeps in the garage at night- so I can keep an eye on her and have recently (2 weeks ago) switched her over to a grain-free kibble food, supplementing with raw ground beef/organ mixture and vegetables.¬† I’ve ordered Dr. Becker/Mercolas Digestive Enzymes, which haven’t arrived yet and am waiting on Pawhealer.com’s chinese herbs for lung support to arrive.¬† The girl from pawhealer told me to just give her the raw meat w/o any veggies¬†for a few days, just to make sure something in them is not contributing to what they feel is a digestive issue due to my dogs symptoms of panting, wetness around her mouth, and some other symptoms.¬† Soooo I’ve started that, but at 69 lbs. (she’s overweight by about 15 lbs.) I’m not sure how much I should feed¬†her.¬† Today, she slipped on the hardwood floor and fell, sprawled out, unable to get up.¬† She cried as I tried to help her up and seems very fragile now.¬† I’ve massaged her hips and am helping her up when I see her hesitation due to pain or weakness or whatever, but I’m so worried about her and HATE how long it takes for orders to arrive from these places and not knowing if what I’m reading or hearing to do¬†is accurate, as you read so many contradictory things!!¬†If anyone has any experience or recommendations or anything that might help, I’d be very grafeful.¬†

  • Hi Christina… When I wrote this review, the company marketed Archetype as meeting AAFCO profiles “for all life stages”. If this food is indeed for all life stages, it should be OK for routine feeding.

    However, Wysong recommends Archetype as well as many of its products be fed in a diet rotation format (which I personally recommend for most dog foods). For more information about this feeding method, please visit our FAQ page and look for the topic, “Diet Rotation for Dogs”.

    Wysong has information about diet rotation on its own site, too. Hope this helps.

  • Hi,
    I was looking a the Wysong website and reading the product label, and I noticed that the Archetype food said it was for “supplemental feeding”. This seems like a great food, but that troubles me some. Is this food not sufficient for dog’s nutrition?

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  • Shawna

    Yes and no Richard.

    ANYTHING that can cause inflammation of the digestive tract wall can allow “undigested proteins” into the blood where they are not recognized by the immune system and attacked. IF the proteins are digested properly to amino acids there is nothing for the immune system to react to. The other side of the picture here is —- the undigested protein has to get through AND the immune system has to “over-react” to the antigen / protein.. We are ALWAYS subjected to antigens (pollen, dander etc) but only when the immune system over-reacts do we develop an allergy. The health of the liver can cause the immune system to be over-reactive as can over-vaccinating, chemicals (like heartworm and flea/tick meds etc — which in and of themselves stress the liver), inadequate nutrient intake plus…..

    With colitis the colon can be inflammed but possibly not to the point of permeability. And if to that point, if digestion is proper or the immune system is not over-reacting then the allergy does not happen.. Dr. Jean Dodds and other vets I have read material from feel that “true” allergies are not very common and that much of the symptoms we see are actually intolerances or sensitvities (like gluten “intolerance”). No IGa/IGe response. However, symptoms can manifest in the same manner.

    Once the “inflammation” (if permeability didn’t occur) is controlled the food can be added back in to the diet AS LONG as it does not cause re-inflammation. Chicken and NSAIDS will cause colitis in Gizmo every time if given more then a few days. Because I already rotate proteins every other day — I’ve never tested turkey longer. It may be that I can now feed turkey to her as well as the other four proteins but it did take much longer before she didn’t react to it then it did the four other foods. AND, it might very well be that if I didn’t rotate and fed exclusively duck she would eventually react to it as well.. Don’t know??

  • Shawna

    Am I correct in thinking the NSAID will compromise the colon wall much like Candida rhizomes do allowing partially digested pieces of protein to escape into the blood stream where the body will react to it as though it’s an antigen and become allergic to the protein? Eventually once the permeability of the colon lining is repaired by eliminating the irritant and taking lots of probiotics, then slow reintroduction of the protein after about 6 months or so can successfully allow the dog to eat the protein without the allergic reaction?

  • Shawna

    Couldn’t agree more Richard…

    In Gizmo’s case — I believe it was NSAID’s that caused the initial inflammation and she was being fed a chicken based kibble while at her former home. She was a pup and broke her leg trying to climb a rock wall.. Given Metacam for the inflammation and pain of the broken leg.

    Because I raw feed, as you know, and rotate foods she had continual colitis symptoms but they were not severe. After several weeks I took her to my holistic vet and she gave me the homeopathic phosphorus (based on Gizmo’s EXACT symptoms — urgency, explosiveness, degree of diarrhea, blood present etc). Gizmo would also get a gurgly tummy several hours before the diarrhea would begin. AND all this generally started up to 6 – 10ish hours after eating or longer and would last for days so I had a hard time making a connection to a particular food.

    The phosphorus would stop the colitis symptoms IMMEDIATELY.. Once on the phosphorus I was able to determine it was the chicken and eliminated all chicken (raw, dehydrated, cooked etc) from her diet.. No more colitis UNTIL.. About two months goes by and she hurts her back. Holistic vet was closed and I felt it was a bit of an emergency so took her to my allopathic vet. They gave her a metacam SHOT and the next day she had full blown colitis again. Within two months of this happening she develops a hypersensitivity to five more foods (six all together including the chicken). As you know, I don’t feed ANY grains or potato. All of her triggers were animal proteins.. I eliminated them as I identified them and got to where I had to feed the exotics (ostrich, elk etc) just to get food down her. In addition to the phosphorus I started her on SeaCure and upped her probiotic intake.. After two months the SeaCure, slippery elm, food eliminations etc had done the trick and the inflammation was going away. After about six months I could routinely feed her four of the offending animal proteins. After about a year I could also include turkey. Still to this day however (about five years later) if I feed her chicken OR give her an NSAID like Metacam or Rimadyl for more then two days straight she will develop colitis with gurgly tummy and bloody diarrhea…. Avoid over-feeding and over-use of those two and no issues at all…

    I carry the homeopathic phosphorus with when we travel with her.. ūüôā

  • Shawna

    I have seen actual cases where a bloody stool was resolved by changing diet. Not sure of the mechanism but since we switched them on all three occasions to a grain free and potato free diet and the bloody stools stopped within a few days I suspected it had to do with food sensitivities.

    I also know that Candida overgrowth can cause IBS and then any irritant could potentially cause a bloody stool. The Candida is fed by grain or potato or sugar of any type.

  • Shawna

    I respectfully disagree with Dawn. Anything that can cause inflammation to the digestive tract, including food allergies or intolerances, can potentially trigger IBS/IBD.

    My Pom gets colitis (a form of IBS/IBD) whenever she eats chicken more then two days in a row.

    Dr. Karen Becker DVM lists three causes of IBD in her video/article on Mercola Healthy Pets

    1. parasites
    2. sterioids and antibiotics
    3. food sensitivities

    “Many animals (including humans) develop hypersensitivity to a food they eat over and over again. Inflammation is the result and can lead to IBD.” http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2010/11/02/inflammatory-bowel-disease-in-pets.aspx

  • Dawn Leder


  • J

    Tried Wysong, slowly introduced. The dog couldn’t tolerate it. Can’t recall the specifics, but it did not help her with the mucous/bloody stools, and it increased gas. This was carefully observed with as many variables taken into consideration as possible.

  • Hi Sandy… That is a very good question. Grape skins and grape seeds exhibit a notable anticoagulant (anti-clotting) and antioxidant effect on the blood and blood vessels of both humans and dogs. Unfortunately, I’m unable to explain why these very same ingredients are considered safe (by Wysong) to use in dog food when they are known to be toxic to a dog’s kidneys. You may need to contact Wysong to get a better answer to your question.

  • sandy

    The ingredient list on the Wysong website is slightly different. It only contains chicken. But I had a question regarding grape skins. I thought grapes and raisins are on a “do not feed to your dog” list.

  • Hi Nadine… Much of what you say is certainly true. But unfortunately I must place this disclaimer on each and every review I write. That’s because many folks mistakenly assume they can treat their dogs for virtually any condition simply by choosing the right dog food.

    To prevent our readers from making dangerous errors we are ethically (and legally) obliged to place these disclaimers on each article.

    Thanks for your well-presented and thoughtful comment.

  • Nadine

    Mike, I love your analysis reviews and had just used them to show my boss how Chef Michael was not a good dog food for his dog! However, I have a problem when you state “when in doubt, consult a veterinarian for help.” I would never consult a vet as to which food to feed my dogs, as most vets are not taught nutrition in school. They are taught nutrition by the sales reps who come in to their practice to get them to sell their particular brand of food. In or around 2007 a class action lawsuit was filed against the makes of most of the pet food you find in a grocery store. Paragraph 81 of the third amended complaint talks about vets and food:

    81. Nowhere on its website does Colgate disclose that it has spent millions marketing
    its Science Diet¬ģ pet foods and/or treats to veterinary students and veterinarians in order to get
    an edge over its competitors by having veterinarians endorse and recommend these brands to
    consumers who Colgate knows will rely upon them and that they will trust Colgate with their
    cats’ and dogs’ health and well being. Colgate funds veterinary schools, provides stipends for
    and discounts its pet food to veterinary students, and arranges for veterinarians to have financial
    incentives to sell its pet food. The average consumer has no idea that the veterinarian is profiting
    from the recommendation and is boosting Colgate’s profits in the process. The conflict of
    interest, created and encouraged by Colgate, is patent.

    I know of many people whose vets recommended Science Diet for their pets, when in fact Science Diet is just plain old garbage food! Also, a friend of mine has a a good friend who is a vet and he confirmed that they were not taught nutrition in school. It is up to us, as responsible pet owners, to do our own research for the best possible food for our pets, and this includes learning about the ingredients and looking into what type of diet is the best. I’ve done much research into this over the past 2 years, which ultimately lead me to put my 2 Chihuahuas on The Honest Kitchen as I know this food contains the best possible, and healthiest, ingredients for my dogs.

  • Hi Greg… Wheatgrass does not contain the berry of the wheat plant. So, it is considered gluten-free. As I mention in my reviews, wheatgrass is prized by many for its unusually high vitamin and mineral content. However, allergies and intolerances are two different issues. Even though your dog may be safe from gluten intolerance, he can still be allergic to a specific allergen (like wheatgrass, though his is unlikely). Hope this helps.

  • Greg Lucas

    I do not understand the ingrediant wheat grass? I do not Know if it is good or bad. Wheat is an ingreadiant that many/most dogs are allergic to. Many people switch from dry foods to raw or homecooked diets to avoid wheat, yet in an article avout homemade cooked diets and homemade raw diets by one of my local vets he recommneds a supplement (Call of the Wild) by Wysong that contains wheat grass and barley grass. Is it bad, likely to triger allergies, because it is wheat, or is it okay because it is a grass and not really in hte grian stage? I wonder if wheat grass contains wheat gluten.

  • Diane Knight

    My dog, Chase the Boxer, had mast cell cancer twice as a very young dog. I switched his food to Wysong supplemented by some people food such as green beans and chicken breast. After surgery to remove the cancer and a change in diet and exposures, he has been cancer free now for years. I also believe that this is an excellent product. The company is willing to work with people to help select their product that would be best for the animal. Diane