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I kind of feel that’s a cop out. Thanks for answering my question though! I’m going to consult with my vet. I don’t like the idea of the first two ingredients of this sensitive diet food are grain and rice. Third is dried egg protein and fourth is chicken meal.

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Chuckles I tried use the formula in the link you posted but it never came out right. 🙁

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chuckles i used that formula in the link you posted a few back. says fromm weight managment is not enough protien? estimating her ideal weigh as 120 kg… So now i’m really confused!

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However I don’t know how to calculate their carb%

[cdubau]

I have that on my list to try as well as:

Whole Earth Farms (lowest fat I’ve seen) healthy weight

Horizon senior

Eagle pack.

[cdubau]

My girls still aren’t losing any weight. I’m going to start looking at other brands besides Wellness but I can’t afford anymore more than that. 🙁

[cdubau]

Aimee I had to read parts of that twice lol. That is alot. So the food I’m feeding her has around 30% protient and 10% fat off the top of my head. I’m feeding them the reduced amount per the weight loss section. I know there is a pet food calculator that goes off their weight now and their ideal. I will confirm with that site that we are giving them the correct amount. That is what you were meaning right?

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Usually we have always just had to reduce their foods if they got pudgy and that always worked. I’ll definitely look into the low carb and try that. I was only trying this food because it was in my area, a 5 star and on THE list. I have some experience in the medical field (humans though) and by all means I don’t just assume that reduced fat means it will work.

It concerns me that they are eating the low end of the caloric intake for the weight loss range not the maintenance range. So they are already 25% below their intake plus on the low side. I have also even taken the info to a dog food calculator site to see how much I should be feeding them as well.

I just want them healthy!

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The food I’m feeding them is listed under the Best Weight Loss Foods, so it should “work” to help them lose weight. I didn’t assume that because it said it was reduced fat it would work. I assumed it would work because its a 5 star food and its listed HERE as a best in weight loss. It has high protein to help them feel fuller, low in fat and low in calorie. And they don’t get but two small treats a day IF they actually get one.

They are older and aren’t losing weight, blood work was a question. Should I bring them to get blood work because they are eating BELOW recommended amount and NOT losing weight. If they were huma, eating the low end of caloric intake (even if it was high in carbs) and they weren’t losing weight, I would assume going to the doctor to have that person checked out would be the next step. Just my rational of thinking, but it really was a question.

[cdubau]

TheBCnut can you post any links about the recent complaints?

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Aimee….you were right! I took her in wednesday AM. Before I even read your post I knew she had it because we started having BITES! So now Banfield is paying to treat all our animals as we had her in quarantine but weren’t changing clothes between her and our established pups.

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InkedMarie. Yeah i did some research and correct none since 2012. I’m having a hard time keeping my dog in my icon at a good weight. Its been almost three years so i’m hoping for now I can use this to get some weight on him. We usually switch up their foods and so far none of what we have used have kept weight on him. We have tried TOW, Dr Tims, BB Wilderness, Fromm and maybe another one……None would keep weight on him.

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Dog Obsessed. I did some research on the recall list provided by this site and its been almost three years since a recall related to diamond. Which is why i decided to give it a shot. I just can’t keep weight on my boy (the one in my icon) and this is a very high protien and fat food. We usually switch up their foods but we can’t seem to keep weight on him.

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My husband told me this am that we needed food by tonight….so I was able to track down some Fromm food that is within hound dogs mom’s list. Typically we transition over about 7-9 days from one food to another. This will be the first time its a 180 transition. 🙁 But right now it couldn’t be any worse. I will talk to the local place I found today that can order Nutrisource but Honest kitchen is out of my price with having 4 dogs.

Both dogs are healthy, I didn’t mean to imply my vet said diarrhea is healthy. They show no signs of being sick in any way so I’m hoping changing the food will help. 😀

[cdubau]

Alright everyone I need some help. Currently feeding my dogs Dr Tims
*Last year this time I got my awesome dog Bode and in April we got another puppy Zieke. They are both larger breed dogs. Bode is weighing close to 80 pounds at just over a year and Zieke is a full blooded Rotti. But we are having issues!!

* Our Rotti always has loose stools. The first bit that comes out holds some form and the rest is to soft to hold anything. Negative for worms or anything in fecal matter
*Our older pup Bode poops TON at A time, 3-4 times a day!!
* BOTH have awful gas!

Considering changing to one of the following foods to try all from the list of Grain INCLUDED (I can’t afford any of the grain free). In order of STARS:
Pro/Fat Content
5 Daves 30/20
4.5 Fromm Gold 26/14
4.5 Premium Edge 29/18
4 Nutrisource 26/16
4 Nature Variety 26/12

Does anyone have any experience with the above listed foods?

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At what age do you stop worrying about the calcium levels?

[cdubau]

Thanks!!! 🙂 got a new puppy!!

[cdubau]

What page has the most current update list from HDM? Thanks 🙂

[cdubau]

Hey thanks so much for the reply! I think I have figured out a food for her! Here her story. Oreo doesn’t have UTI’s but had bladder stones maybe two years ago? If feels like it was forever ago but I felt so bad. I had one of those automatic kitty litter boxes so I didn’t notice she wasn’t pee’ing a lot in one go. Anyway I took her in and finally got a pee sample and it looked like straight blood 🙁 Its been so long I can’t remember if they did an ultra sound. I want to say no. They has me switch her food and give her meds and try the pet fountain (didn’t work).
Food wise she always gets dry food with wet food mixed, water added to make it gravy like. She was on science diet c/d but it seemed to make her sick sometimes. If i mixed to much water with the dry food she would vomit. Plus the watered down dry food would smell rancid in a very short time. So I called wellness and got their mineral counts one day and their weight loss formula was within the range that was listed on the C/d. So I switched to that and she hated it. She would lick the wet food off the dry food and leave the dry food in the bowl!! Low and behold I saw a lady in the store with the Purina Urinary tract health and asked her about it. She said her vet told her to switch her cats to that. Oreo will eat it….which is a lot coming from her. She will eat it plain too. She is picky about it being fresh though. But I’m glad I found a food she will eat, won’t break the bank and is a U/T food.
I still need to find a way to get her more fluids though. Going all canned I just can’t afford. Its not in the budge so any other creative ways besides a fountain I’m up to trying.

[cdubau]

Thanks for the help! The mountain didn’t work for my girl. I mix her food dry and canned. She has had stones before but no UTI. I’ll look at cranberry powder though. Her urine output is good though.

[cdubau]

We switch our hound to Fromm gold reduced activity senior dog food. Never used Fromm until then but it has greatly reduced her poop amount . She’s 65 pounds.

[cdubau]

Its out of my price range. I have priced everything on the suggested list and what I have listed above is what I can afford.

[cdubau]

Is there anyway you could copy and past the information from the first link? It wants me to sign up for a yearly membership to read the rest of the article? Would it be allowed if you cited the information?

[cdubau]

Thanks HDM!

So I decided on Dr Tim’s Kinesis for the new puppy. Any advice over who to buy from chewy or petflow?

[cdubau]

Thank you so much to you and Hound Dog Mom. I had the concept at first and then I read the articles in the first page and got confused!!

So I understand the min is usually below then curve but what if the company publishes a “max” amount as well? Is it safe to assume the max is really the max?

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Inked Marie–physically yes I can order online but I am pretty against it right now due to fraud issues I have had in the past couple years. Thanks though. I have definitely looked at the online websites that one can order from.

Apriliamille- I still have to call the place with Victor to see what specific ones they have. It’s a very small store so I’m not sure they will have the two on her list nor the price? Driving an hour for natures variety is not really ideal and is a last option before ordering online. I have never wanted to even try Royal Canin for some reason. Innova is completely removed from petsmart here! Not even a spot on the shelf left for it.

MOST importantly I am still waiting for some one to explain to me how I need to be doing the calculations so I can use what I find locally.

[cdubau]

Hello everyone! My name is Carla and I’m the mom of three pups. Emma and Kelsey are my older girls. They are both about 7 and my new pup, Bode, is about 4 months now. We have had him about three weeks now. On our first vet visit the doc explained how too much calcium was a bad thing for large breeds and while I had looked to this site 5/6 years ago I decided to check it out again! Anywho we don’t really know what breed Bode is but he looks like possibly a Dobi, Black and Tan hound or rotti mix. Basically he will be big and he’s Black and Tan lol.

I have read the literature provided and done hours of research as to what brands are available with prices in my area. I dont feel I have many affordable options. I’m left with a couple questions probably due to confusion. We have fed our dogs Nutro in past since it was what we could afford but recently switched our older dogs to taste of the wild. Looking at the information of their website it lists their Nutro MAX large breed puppy as having a Min 1.00 and a Max of 1.5 for Calcium and caloric energy is 3580kcal/kg and 347 kcal/cup. **which number am I supposed to compare the calcium to when doing my own research? And the phosphorus should be half of that or double that? I don’t want to feed him nutro it’s just a brand I am familiar with.

My petsmart is fairly small. It only stocks Blue (and petsmarts Simply Nourish brand), Caster and Pollux, and Wellness as higher end brands. It also carries Royal Canin. There are a couple local pet stores that carry Taste of the Wild, Premiun Edge, Chicken Soup FTDLS, Holistic, Innova, Victor and Blackgold–in very limited selections. Driving an hour away adds Halo, Natures Variety, Nutricsource and By Nature (only ocean fish). Some of those brands are really out of my price range such as Halo, Wellness and Royal Canin. Also Newmans Own. I’m very leery of buying online to several fraud issues I’ve had in the last couple years causing me to change entire account numbers.

I want to feel my new pup the best that I can afford but times are tight.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Carla.

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