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  • #22253
    Anonymous
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    We just recently “adopted” (adopted from the people who bought him from a breeder, as life changes happened) a Saint Berdoodle puppy, Tobi. He is now about 8 months old, we’ve had him for about 6-7 weeks.
    He was on Purina Puppy Chow when we got him 😛
    Locally we have Feeders Supply pet store, they carry lots of brands, including lots of holistic.
    I picked out Professionals Large Breed Puppy.
    I have 2 main concerns for feeding Tobi.. Nutrition, I want to feed him the best quality food I can afford. Cost, we are a one income family, with 2 kids and 2 dogs. I cannot afford to pay $50-60 for 25lbs of dog food.

    Tobi did great with transitioning to the Professionals, but is now having loose stool (for about a week now). He still eats fine, and acts normal.

    Im thinking of trying something different. And after reading several pages on this thread, Im seeing that perhaps I don’t need to be buying “large breed puppy” specifically?

    I also have a Aussie mix senior dog (11yrs old), with no age ailments so far. Currently she is on Nature’s Recipe Senior, because it was at Big Lots for $30/25lbs . She is a picky eater, and seems to like it well.

    I would love to find something they can both be on eventually? Or even now? Without breaking the bank.. 40-50lb bags would be great!

    Currently Tobi is eating about 5 cups a day of the Professionals LBP… that bag is emptying fast!

    This fall we plan to switch them to a 50/50 raw/kibble diet (with more research first) once hubby is able to get an extra couple of deer and turkey.

    Any suggestions on brands to try, that are at least corn free, but I would prefer grain free, and are not going to kill my budget! 🙂

    katj813
    Participant

    I know I may not receive specifics but I find info on the web too general so here’s a few specifics on my dog:
    He’s an 11 year old terrier mix @19lbs. He has two heart conditions treated with Enalapril and fish oil. He has occasional arthritis in his back legs which is treated by dog aspirin as needed. He has an activity level between low and medium. Some days he has bursts of energy and likes visits to the dog park but the high energy is limited and he mostly sleeps. I currently have him on taste of the wild because while I do my best to get the best food I can, I have a college student budget.

    I want to make sure my dog is getting the nutrients he needs to stay healthy so what sort of things should I look for in his food to meet his requirements and do you think TotW is covering it? I don’t have the time for raw and home made diets so I want to stick to dry food, he gets wet mixed in but it’s only for supplemental feeding so I don’t rely on it for nutrients even though he gets at least some from it. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    #21950

    In reply to: On a budget

    Sully’sMom
    Member

    🙂

    Also, when I was looking into those brands, both Earthborn and Dr Tim’s sent me samples, and Earthborns included coupons. Merrick doesn’t send samples, but they sent me a coupon.

    #21946

    In reply to: On a budget

    Saint Louie
    Participant

    Thx for the quick replies, Sully’s Mom and Patty. Louie is one lucky boy to have other moms like you watching out for him!! Ordering today and will add Merrick to our rotation. Have a wonderful day!

    #21938

    In reply to: On a budget

    theBCnut
    Member

    Sully’s Mom is correct. No food is perfect so rotating helps make sure all your nutritional bases are covered. It also supports a wider variety of probiotics in the gut, which in turn gives a gigantic boost to the immune system.

    #21936

    In reply to: On a budget

    Sully’sMom
    Member

    Hi Saint Louie, Earthborn, Dr. Tim’s and Victor are exactly the brands I’ve chosen to rotate among, plus Merrick. From all I’ve read and learned here, you don’t need to choose….rotate 🙂 This way, what one may be lacking, the next one will have and vice versa.

    #21930

    In reply to: On a budget

    Saint Louie
    Participant

    Agree, Sully’sMom. So grateful to have found this thread as a “short list” while searching for a new food! My 8-year-old black, flat-coated lab/border collie mix has been in great health with an amazing coat until 6 months ago when I let his flea control lapse for about 6 weeks. As a result, he developed dermatitis on his behind for the first time — itchy, scaly skin with occasional hot spots. The vet restarted his Trifexis, gave him a steroid shot and antibiotics and changed him to Science Diet. Since then, his problems have intensified and we need to act quickly. I suspect we need to steer clear of grains for now and possibly chicken to get this under control, but would really appreciate input from you experienced “moms.” I’ve narrowed my search of foods in my price range to the following, but would sincerely appreciate more opinions — trying to choose among Earthborn GF Coastal Catch, Earthborn GF Great Plains Feast, Dr. Tim’s Kinesis GF Formula or Victor GF Select Ocean Blend. Earthborn has fruits included, which appeals to me. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

    #21908

    In reply to: Constant UTIs!

    pugmomsandy
    Participant

    Has her urine been sent for a culture and sensitivity? Her strain of infection could be resistent to certain drugs.

    Can you get her a dental cleaning? If not giving her real bones to gnaw on will help with tarter. Bones that are considered recreational bones and are not consumable like a big femur bone or marrow bone.

    As far as food goes, I’d feed her a regular food. Not a “senior” food or a “dental health” food. There are few “senior” foods I’d recommend like Merrick or Amicus (but Amicus is for small breeds). Some budget friendly foods would be Nutrisource, Dr Tim’s, Fromm, Victor, ProPac and a Tractor Supply brand called 4Health Grain Free or Coscto brand called Kirkland’s. A kibble will break up into bits before doing much scraping on the teeth.

    You might also try a d-mannose supplement. It attracts a certain kind of bacteria away from the bladder wall.

    Also a fellow pugvillage.com member called 6BeautifulPugs has used Cystex tablets (OTC) with success for her troubled UTI dog. You can contact her if you wish. She’s a foster mom that specializes in the old and infirmed.

    http://www.pugvillage.com/forum/pug-life/124181-good-news-ching-once.html

    #21814
    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    Hi gsdmommy89 –

    Good question. If you read the criteria at the beginning of the list you’ll notice that I’ve included all appropriate foods that are rated at least 4 stars. The two Victor formulas you mentioned are rated 4 stars. I personally wouldn’t feed them to my dogs due to the low protein content. I’d also prefer to see someone feed a higher protein food to their pup. However, if I were to have only included 5 star foods on the list (the only foods that would have protein levels high enough for my preferences) there wouldn’t have been enough options and it could also be prohibitive for those on a budget. The 4 star foods listed with lower protein levels are by no means bad foods, I would just prefer more protein.

    I prefer the grain-free Earthborn formulas over the grain-inclusive. The puppy Vantage is not appropriate for large breed puppies. I was told the actual calcium level for the Puppy Vantage formula is around 1.56%. I did email the company last year about the grain-free formulas and was told the actual levels are generally close to the minimum – I have re-emailed the company to verify the information I received last year but have not yet received a response.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 8 months ago by Hound Dog Mom.
    #21773

    In reply to: New Yorkie Owner..HELP

    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    Hi CharlieBrown –

    It’s great that you’re looking to switch your pup to a better food 🙂

    Victor is budget friendly and has very small kibble. Fromm Classics are reasonably priced – I’ve never used the classics but I know their 4 Star and Gold lines both have small kibbles so I’d assume the classics would as well. NutriSource has a small/medium breed puppy formula that is small and pretty cheap. That’s all I can recall off the top of my head for small kibble and reasonable price. I’m sure Sandy will know some more.

    For canned food I’d recommend checking out either Pure Balance (available at Walmart), 4Health (available at Tractor Supply) or Kirkland Cuts & Gravy (available at Costco) – all are $1 or less for a large can and rate 4 stars or higher.

    If you want to give him something healthy to chew on that’s also cheap, I’d recommend picking up some raw bones from the butcher. Bully sticks, pig ears and dried tracheas (from quality sources) are healthy chews too but they can be pricey.

    DogFoodie
    Member

    I agree with the others and hope you can come up with some additional choices.

    I used Canidae Pure Elements once when I though that the manufacturing had been moved to Canidae’s new manufacturing facility, Ethos; only to find out that much of the manufacturing is still through Diamond so you couldn’t be sure that what you were buying was being made by Ethos or Diamond. Diamond is a deal breaker for me. My dogs weren’t thrilled with it anyway and I used it only briefly for the duration of one small bag.

    I’d check out Dr. Tim’s and I’d contact Dr. Tim (drtim@drtims.com) and ask him which formula he might suggest for your dog. Dr. Tim’s is budget friendly and Dr. Tim is a vet who is very hands on with the production of his food… he’ll get back to you very quickly with a response. I just checked the site quickly and didn’t see anything regarding Sodium. You need a combination of excellent customer service, budget friendly and a quality product. I’d also try Earthborn, NutriSource and Fromm ~ all three of those fit your requirements ~ assuming the Sodium is OK.

    #21768
    CharlieBrown
    Participant

    Hi All,
    I am a new Yorkshire Terrier owner. He just turned one on June 26th. We received him from my sis in law who for a variety of reasons couldn’t keep him any longer 🙁 With him I received a bag of Purina and a bag of Kibbles and Bits dry food. Also some cans of Mighty Dog canned food. Ive never been a dog owner but after finding this site I see that those foods are not good at all. Can you please recommend a good food for him? I am on a budget but want to feed him good food.

    Also she told me she mixes half a can of the wet food with some kibble twice a day. Is this a good feeding schedule with good amounts of food? Should I always mix the wet and dry foods or keep them separate?

    And finally, she also sent a small beefhide bone that he seems to love and spends alot of time gnawing on. It actually came in a pack of four and he he has 3 left. Are these any good?

    Thank you in advance!! I will love your suggestions on good budget friendly foods and treats. Also any suggestions from veteran Yorkie owners on any topic about them not just food!!

    #21751

    In reply to: On a budget

    DogFoodie
    Member

    Hi Goldenlover,

    Everything I learned about dog food, I learned here from HDM, Patty Vaughan, Shawna, Sandy and a handful of others. Stick around and ask questions! And, welcome!

    #21749

    In reply to: On a budget

    Sully’sMom
    Member

    I’m glad I starting reading this thread – I’d given up looking for Victor but now thanks to HDM, I know where to find it 🙂

    #21734

    In reply to: On a budget

    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    I not sure how much you’re willing to spend on kibble but Victor – one of the brands Betsy mentioned – is available from victorpet(dot)com. They have free shipping. The GF formulas are rated 5 stars and range in price from $49.95 to $54.95 for a 30 lb. bag which is very reasonably priced for a 5 star grain-free food. Dr. Tim’s GF which is rated 5 stars is $53.99 on chewy(dot)com (free shipping as well). Chewy(dot)com also sells Earthborn – a 5 star food – for $47.99 per 28 lbs. These foods are probably a bit more expensive than Nature’s Domain but take into consideration the calorie content. Nature’s Domain only contains 336 kcal. per cup – Victor GF Ultra Pro has 453 kcal. per cup, Dr. Tim’s GF has 413 kcal. per cup and Earthborn Primitive Natural has 445 kcal. per cup. Your dog would need to eat about 25% less food if eating Victor, Dr. Tim’s or Earthborn, versus the ND.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 8 months ago by Hound Dog Mom.
    #21729

    In reply to: On a budget

    Goldenlover
    Participant

    wow-thanks everyone-especially Betsy–i printed out your reply, I really appreciate your response because ya i saw the big a** list of top dog foods but to find an affordable on on the list is gonna take a long time and alot of homework -something i don’t have…so thank you for affordable choices -and not sacrificing the health of my loved one.-
    Thank you also Hound Dog Mom and Patty–I have coconut oil, who knew? LOL- I know we all have a life..thanks for taking the time to respond..ALL 3 of you!!!!!!

    #21728

    In reply to: On a budget

    DogFoodie
    Member

    Hi Goldenlover,

    Patty & HDM offered some great suggestions to make your current food more palatable, but it sounds like you’re also interested in finding a quality food that is still affordable and appeals to your dog.

    Have you taken a look at this list of 5 Star Dry Foods: /dog-food-reviews/dry/5-star/?

    Or this list of Best Foods (which includes 4 and 5 Star Foods): /best-dog-foods/best-dry-dog-foods/

    Yes, Nature’s Domain from Kirkland is inexpensive and many of those on these lists aren’t, but there are still some that are affordable ~ probably many are still more than Kirkland’s ND. Also, ND is grain free and Rachael Ray Nutrish is grain inclusive and both of these lists include both grain free and inclusive formulations. One thing I’m not thrilled with the ND about is that it’s made by Diamond, which if you’re not already aware, has a horrible history of recalls and their handling of same. I don’t do any Diamond products and know there are others who feel the same.

    If you like the Rachael Ray Nutrish product, you might also try the RR Zero Grain Nutrish, that’s a four star product, but it’s a bit more expensive than the RR Nutrish. Other more affordable foods you might want to check into are 4Health Grain Free (available at TSC), Victor, NutriSource, Earthborn Holistics, Dr. Tim’s, Fromm, Hi-Tek, Nutrisca, Pro Pac and Whole Earth Farms. Nature’s Logic is a bit more expensive, but a really great product.

    Lots of foods have “loyalty” programs, like NutriSource for example, buy 12 and get one free. You can go to the NutriSource website and enter a contest to win a free bag of food and if you don’t win (I’m still trying) you’ll at least get a two dollar coupon emailed to you. Rachael Ray always has coupons available for the Zero Grain Nutrish on the website. Also, some online retails outlets will offer a discount for auto-ship orders, but you still have the ability to change shipping frequency and add or change items.

    Five stars are great, so are four stars when your dog loves the food and does great on it!

    #21718

    In reply to: On a budget

    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    Tinned sardines, eggs, kefir, plain yogurt, cottage cheese, chopped up leftover meat, leftover veggies. Also chicken hearts and gizzards and beef hearts are usually fairly cheap at the grocery store – you could mix them in raw or fry them up in a healthy oil like coconut oil.

    #21715

    In reply to: On a budget

    Goldenlover
    Participant

    Hi, i forgot to mention that yes i use that too, again he only eats small portion at a time..when really hungry…

    #21714

    In reply to: On a budget

    theBCnut
    Member

    Kirkland Cuts and Gravy is Costco’s canned food that rates really well. It’s about $0.79 a can and just adding 1/4 a can or less will probably really bring on his appetite.

    #21712

    Topic: On a budget

    in forum Canine Nutrition
    Goldenlover
    Participant

    Hey all, got a golden and currently feed Costco’s natures domain grain free salmon and sweet potato-a 3.5 star dog food-cost $ 34.00, he eats it, but only when hungry, i actually feel like he doesnt love it ya know, so i went out and bought rachel rays nutrish beef and brown rice and mixed the two…he devoured it, i was so happy till i found out its a 2.5 star food..Uggh….Sure i would love to go out and buy blue…but lets be real…$55-$60 a bag, YA RIGHT! So i need advice. What can i mix in his current costco food to make it a FIVE STAR kinda food. What is this food missing that i should add, and maybe make it taste better. Or do u know of a 5 star food that is affordable?-THANKS IN ADVANCE for your help…..

    #21544
    Lemdem
    Participant

    I’m loving this thread! It’s really informative!

    I work at Petco, and I have a lot of pet parents come in when they get a new puppy. Not everyone can afford (or is willing to pay for) these more expensive, quality brands, and I was wondering if you might be able to show me a few formulas in the different price ranges so I can recommend the best food for their budget. I’ve always had small breed dogs, so cost isn’t as much of an issue for me as it is for parents of dogs who will eat 4+ cups a day.

    Is Nutro Max Large Breed Puppy a decent food in the $1/lb range? It seems to be the best one i’ve seen in the price range. It’s got a bunch of corn and wheat, but still manages to get a 3.5 on DFA, which is pretty impressive for $30 a bag. Is their LBP formula worth anything?

    Any other suggestions? The cheapo brands we carry at my store are Purina( Chef Michaels, Puppy Chow, Beneful, One) & Pedigree, and a small jump up in price, Iams and Nutro Max.

    Of those foods, in those two price ranges, which one would be the least harmful for a large breed puppy? The Purina and Pedigree are such garbage, does it even make a difference which one you feed?

    Whole Earth Farms is also around the Nutro Max price range, at about $40 a bag. Is the adult formula appropriate for LB puppies?

    I’ve read a lot of different things about LBP nutrition. Is it true that if an appropriate LBP formula is not available, then an adult formula is better than a regular puppy food?

    I really appreciate all of your time! Your list was really, really helpful.

    #21408
    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    Hi londoncalling1996 –

    That’s too bad your store didn’t carry any of the foods. 🙁 If you’re not opposed to online ordering there are many sites that sell a wider variety of foods than you could find in a store and they also typically have lower prices – most also offer free shipping with no weight limit when you spend a certain amount of money (usually orders over $49). I’d recommend checking out wag.com, chewy.com, petflow.com and naturalk9supplies.com. Also the new lists should give you many additional options to choose from.

    I definitely feel that, if it’s financially feasible, non-dry foods should be fed as a sole diet or at least in addition to kibble. Dry food is actually the worst thing to feed a dog – however to to budget and time constraints it, understandably, comprises the bulk of most dog’s diets. I urge you to check out this article Dr. Marty Goldstein (one of my all time favorite veterinarians) posted on his blog, it ranks the different types of food from best to worst: drmarty.com/what-should-i-feed-my-pet-for-best-health/

    If you add wet food you should count account for this in her daily food intake – just monitor her weight and if she’s gaining too much start feeding a little less. One of my all time favorite wet food toppers (especially for large breed puppies) is Tripett. I like Tripett for several reasons: 1) high protein/moderate fat/low carbohydrate (ideal); 2) it has a balanced calcium to phosphorus ratio but very low amounts of each, so it can effectively be used to lower the calcium to phosphorus ratio in any food fed to a large breed puppy without the risk of throwing off the balance and 3) dogs go absolutely nuts for it (people hate it – if you feed it you’ll see why – but they love it). The only thing I want to note with Tripett is that it’s not a complete and balanced food (it’s just canned green tripe) so if you do feed it make sure it doesn’t exceed 20% of the meal or you could throw off the nutritional balance. Some other more balanced canned foods that I like that could account for over 20% of the meal are: ZiwiPeak, Addiction, Nature’s Logic, Nature’s Variety Instinct and Merrick. Dr. Mike has a great compilation of high quality canned foods over on the review site as well. If you’re looking for a quality yet budget friendly canned food (canned food can be quite pricey, especially when feeding a large breed puppy) I’d recommend checking out 4Health (available at Tractor Supply, $0.99 per can), Pure Balance (available at Walmart, $1 per can), Kirkland Cuts in Gravy (available at Costco, $0.79 per can), Whole Earth Farms (available at many online retailers about $1.50 per can) – these foods are all 4 – 5 star quality. Some other toppers you could use are dehdyrated foods (i.e. The Honest Kitchen, Grandma Lucy’s, etc.) – these foods are about the same consistency as a stew type canned food when rehydrated, a balanced frozen or freeze-dried commercial raw food (freeze-dried rehydrates to canned food consistency) or fresh toppers such as sardines, eggs, plain yogurt or left over lean meat or steam veggies from your dinner.

    Digestive aids aren’t necessary, but many feel they’re beneficial. Many of the regulars here supplement with probiotics and enzymes. I don’t supplement with either because my dogs eat a raw diet (naturally occurring enzymes) and consume raw green tripe (rich in enzymes and probiotics) and kefir (rich in probiotics) on a regular basis. If feeding cooked food only (like kibble and canned) I do feel that enzymes and probiotics can provide benefit.

    jewel0247
    Member

    Hi,
    New to the forums and I need some help looking for a dog food that my dog can tolerate. This doggy has been with us since April (she is about 10-12 years old).. the previous owner had been giving her cheaper dog food (alpo, kibble n bits, etc) for most of her life and complained about the dog vomiting half to most of the feed. I took her to the vet for meds to get her stomach “settled.”
    Went from bland boiled chicken and rice to Nature’s recipe: easy to digest and no more vomiting, but the stool was kind of loose (not too bad/often). But then she didn’t like the food after a few days; turns out she is very picky and goes on hunger strikes :).
    Then switched her to Canidae: chicken and rice for a better flavor and nutrition. No vomiting but still having loose/semi-formed stools 3-4/day. Sometimes the diarrhea is so bad she strains and small bright red blood is noted with the straining (but not normally in the stool). We had to use Pepto-Bismol to get it under control and back to bland chicken and rice. Other symptoms she has are: lots of paw licking, very loud tummy noises, itching a lot (but not from fleas) and some bare patches by her tail where she chewed at.
    We will be taking her to the vet soon for fecal testing, etc. We’re budget conscious so only can do so much unfortunately.

    Sorry so long! Appreciate any input!

    #21036
    cearaandtroy
    Participant

    Hi all, my name is Ceara and I’m new to the forum.
    We just adopted a beautiful year old husky/labrador mix from ACS, poor thing was going to be put to sleep so we just had to pick him up and bring him home. He is wonderful with our 18 month old son, and I imagine he’s going to be very active once he heals from his surgery, he was neutered 5 days ago.
    I found out he was being fed science diet his whole life at the shelter! Yuck! And when we brought him home, my boyfriend thought beneful was a better option because it had vegetables on the bag, and pretty sure that food is even worse! What I’m getting at is, this little guy is family now and I want him to be as healthy and happy as possible here.

    I want him to eat completely raw if possible, but we are on a bit of a budget so I may just do mostly raw and then a good quality canned and dry food to make sure he is eating enough. I have no idea where to start, and my google search came up with mostly useless information. What kind of foods would I feed him, how would I start him on a raw diet? He’s 52 lbs so about how much should he eat? Any information you have for me would help a lot!

    #20896
    DieselJunki
    Member

    I have never fed Science Diet and luckily become dog food savvy before getting sucked into the “My vet knows everything” deal. I do know the ingredients are crap, however.

    Dendad, have you looked up all the 4 and 5 star foods here? I personally would stay away from Blue Buffalo and anything Diamond has had their hands in making. Here is a link to the Diamond (people who make blue buffalo among others!) recalls
    /dog-food-recall/diamond-dog-food-recall-expands-again/

    I know some people here feed Nature’s Variety, Orijen, Fromms, Annamaet, Brothers, just to name a few. I know some people on here are have found a decent brand at their Costco that is pretty budget friendly but I have forgotten the name. If you want to know of more 4 and 5 star foods on this website just click “Home” at the top and on the left there will be a link “Dry Dog Food.” click that and from there you have the option to click how many stars.

    Remember though variety is key! Choose a couple different brands and rotate at the end of every bag, or every couple months. Change the protein source, if the source in the food you are feeding is beef, choose chicken next time, so on and so forth. And remember to rotate SLOWLY, especially if you know your dog gets an upset tummy when you switch to fast.

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by DieselJunki.
    #20868
    dendad
    Participant

    The two dogs I lost were Dachshunds. One smooth hair and one wirehair. Both miniature. The one left is a two year old Chihuahua female. I got her at a shelter. I think she was abused for she is very timid around strangers and afraid of any dogs. She loved the dog I just lost. Her health is great. She may have teeth problems later according to my Vet. She is a sweetheart. Budget is not an issue. I would feed her better than myself if it meant I wouldn’t lose another baby.

    #20863
    InkedMarie
    Member

    Please do research Blue….some dogs have gotten sick on it, so be aware. Tell us about the dog you have: age, any issues such as ear infections, obesity, underweight, skin issues, etc. is there a budget you need to stick to?

    #20858
    mommaofbluetick
    Participant

    If you are using Chef Michael’s Dog Food, or thinking about using it for you dog, no matter what breed please read my story:
    I have a large breed BlueTick and was trying to ‘budget’, save money, I’ve had dogs all my life, never used Chef Michaels, but found a good deal when on Chef Michaels. Began feeding her the recommended serving. Yes, she did eat it. Then I took her on her to walk hours later. Pure diahreah *sp?*. Didn’t think that the food may be causing the diarheah together until DAY 3 when she almost passed away, STRAIGHT TO VET, because she had had so much diareah outside, then she couldn’t even control her bowels inside (very very unlike her!!!!).
    Then it got so hard for her to even walk, THIS FOOD WAS KILLING HER, no she didn’t ‘get into anything’ or eat something she shouldn’t have. I am a telecommuter and keep a watchful eye on her. Had to take her to a 24 hour vet, because she was so bad off I had someone carry her to the car (I thought she was going to pass away). They examined her, the only change in her life was the food (I’ve changed food before, never a problem). The vet said that if I kept feeding her the same food, she wouldn’t get better she would get worse, they xrayed her, thourghly examined her, stool sample, took blood, gave her fluids. She was very close to getting BLOAT, which can kill a dog in one hour.
    Vet prescribed her some light food for her tummy for a few days in small amounts, then I was to give her what I did before the Chef Michael’s junk food – INNOVA, IAMS for treats. Little by little she regained strength, luckily I had a very caring vet, who monitored her for a very long time, spent lots of time with her, then the vet tech sat with me and my dog.
    Please, if you use this food, STOP, it almost killed my dog! After every test they did IT WAS THE FOOD! As she is very well taken care of, has been for years, yes I tried ‘budget’ dog food, my mistake. I repeat CHEF MICHAEL’S DOG FOOD ALMOST KILLED MY DOG.
    Thank you for your time.

    #20780

    In reply to: Best dry dog food

    KarenC
    Participant

    That’s such a sweet story about your Eddie! He knew he would be safe with you (and have a full tummy!). Dogs always know when they are rescued, don’t they? I hope Abby fills what you’re missing from Eddie.

    Someone said above to stick around here and you’ll learn a lot…They aren’t kidding! I’ve always been a kibble feeder (due to budgets and lifestyle constraints), and have always gone for the best I could afford at the moment. Believe me that there were some days when me and all the dogs were sharing a bologna sandwich and can of soup. But reading here and the review comments has taught me so much. Things that now make perfect sense, but I never really thought of before. Rotating being one of them. My dogs never ate one single food for years and years because I tried to improve as I could, but now I know that rotation more often is even better! They’ve also gotten cooked or canned toppers as often as I could, but I never would have considered sardines or other canned fish! There hasn’t been a single question I couldn’t get answered by some of the experienced posters here. Stick around and you’ll learn a ton!

    #20710

    In reply to: Best dry dog food

    Ronald
    Participant

    When it comes to our pets, do we ever stick to a budget..

    I just got out of having a total hip replacement, the day I came home my other dog I had for 10 years passed away the night before..Replacement was March 1st. Eddie passed away March 3rd..

    He had been sick so we took him to the Vets, found out he had very high sugar put him on the needle. But he was also ill in the upper GI, had medications to help, but he still passed away.
    We spent just under $4000. trying to keep him alive..
    So I don’t think we follow budgets very good..

    I just thought maybe NutriSource might be a good selection, since it is a well known brand..
    I am going to take Abby to the Vet’s and will see what he recommends..

    #20692

    In reply to: Best dry dog food

    DogFoodie
    Member

    Hi Ron,

    Congrats on the new pup! That’s awesome you’ve adopted a more “mature” pet! Labs are so great, aren’t they.

    I will totally second Patty’s recommendation for NutriSource. It does seem that it’s very easily transitioned to and I know that they carry it at PSP, that’s where I buy mine. By the way, NutriSource also has a loyalty program ~ ask them about it at PSP. Also, you can get coupons all the time from NutriSource by texting the word “Source” to 55678 ~ at the store where I shop, there’s also a really sweet NutriSource rep there frequently and she readily hands out coupons ~ even leaves them sticking out between the various stacks of their product at the store when she leaves.

    OK, so I don’t work for Nutri Source and there are definitely other foods I like as well. Do you need to try to stick to a particular budget?

    #20654
    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    If you’re looking for quality/budget friendly supplements I’d highly recommend checking out Swanson’s. I started ordering all my supplements and my dog’s supplements there. They have a wonderful selection and the prices are unbelievable. I’ve been able to cut my costs for my dogs’ meals (I feed homemade raw) by so much – paying top dollar for supplements really adds up.

    KarenC
    Participant

    I’ve recently turned to Victor Grain Free Joint Health and am LOVING the results. I feed nearly half of their previous food (Diamond Naturals-rotating the version between beef, chicken, lamb) and all of the dogs are holding their weight nicely 3 weeks in. My pudgy 6 year old female has leaned out a bit too. I’ve never been excited for poo scooping but every single pile is perfect! My sweet 100lb senior lab (with “arf”-ritis in his back knees) is a pup again and I’m so happy for him. I’m new to rotating between brands, mostly because some of the better stuff is hard to get here (1 pet boutique allll the way across town…with limited operating hours and premium prices) so I have to depend on a feed store near by, but after a few bags of Victor I’m going to try some Fromm Grain Free to really do “rotating” right. I top with home cooked or canned and switch that up every meal. I’m feeding 9 large dogs so I have to be very budget careful and Victor has turned out to be a winner in that regard as well.

    DogFoodie
    Member

    Yes, ITA with Patty about Nature’s Logic! I’ve been using both the canned and kibble and have had great results with both. The protein is right where you want it; you can check here on their site: http://www.natureslogic.com/products/dp.html. I think it’s surprisingly affordable for a product of its quality. Nature’s Logic has earned my respect ~ they’re a very ethical company.

    I’ve heard a lot of people say they had good results with Victor. I had a question about the product and was exchanging emails with someone there. They didn’t answer my question and when I emailed back specifically asking them to identify a particular ingredient, I never heard from them again. I was asking about the specific type of yeast extract that they use ~ thinking it could be MSG. I was disappointed, but crossed it off my list. I probably still would’ve been OK with the ingredients if it was MSG (I feed quite a few different foods so one questionable ingredient for a bags worth of food wasn’t a big issue), but it was the fact that the guy totally blew me off after I asked that got me wondering about them as a company.

    Another product that’s budget friendly and that my crew loves is Dr. Tim’s Grain Free Kinesis. Dr. Tim Hunt makes himself very available to answer questions to as well.

    I’m fine with Wellness. I’ve used it, but my dogs haven’t loved any of the varieties I’ve tried. I wouldn’t use TOTW, since it’s made by Diamond.

    I love Orijen, but the new formula isn’t working for one of my dogs (both really). One gets a lot of gas and abundance of stool and the other gets a bit constipated. I think it’s the chickpeas and lentils that have cause some gastro issues. I was happy to get my hands on a couple bags of the “old” formula, but won’t be able to use the new formulas any longer. My two never cared for Acana and after several weeks developed loose stools (from both Grasslands and Ranchlands). So, I don’t use Acana in my rotation either.

    Nutrisca is a great budget friendly food, that I actually have in my dog food stash, but after the Orijen chickpea fiasco, I’m afraid to use it.

    Of course I think Nutri Source is great and the Super Performance would meet your criteria although it’s not grain free. Earthborn is great too, Primitive Natural would be your best bet there.

    And then there’s Shep…, naw, just kidding.

    #20350
    pugmomsandy
    Participant

    I think the most popular are the brands found at the grocery store. They’re convenient to grab while human food shopping and the packaging is so bright and colorful with pictures of real food on them and we’re all indoctrinated as kids to get pet food from the grocery store (well the kids who had parents that bought pet food from the grocery store)! I never once bought food from Petco or Petsmart until I learned about how bad dog food can be and that wasn’t until my 30’s and then learned better foods were at the feed store and now I shop mostly online.

    Costco’s Kirkland brand is budget friendly.

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    #20013
    Hound Dog Mom
    Participant

    Canned food can get pricey too. If you’re on a budget and you’ve got a Tractor Supply near you they sell 4Health canned (rated 4.5 stars) for $0.99 per can. There are three grain-free varieties (chicken, beef and turkey stew) and also three grain-inclusive varieties (chicken and rice, lamb and rice and fish and potato).

    • This reply was modified 12 years, 9 months ago by Hound Dog Mom.
    #19983
    EHubbman
    Participant

    I was going to run out tonight and get some cans as well as a different recipe of food. It’s hard finding kibble I feel comfortable feeding him, and I unfortunately don’t think I’ve got the budget to go raw. Bah.

    #19767
    pugmomsandy
    Participant

    I’ve been using petflow.com for about a year and so far no problems. Free shipping on orders over $49.

    #19764
    starbright26
    Participant

    I am definitely planning to alternate a few of their favorite foods once I know which ones they prefer.. And I will check into ordering online, I have never done that with pet food before so it intrigues me! Thanks!

    #19760
    SandyandMila
    Participant

    I was using Earthborn with Mila for awhile and she enjoyed it until she got sick of it, but I think if you rotate different protein sources you should be fine.

    #19758
    Sully’sMom
    Member

    You can get Dr. Tim’s online from http://www.chewy.com. That’s where I’ve been getting Sully’s Fromm from..Excellent service, and over a certain price is free shipping. Early savings if you set up auto delivery..

    #19755
    starbright26
    Participant

    I really like Dr Tim’s too, but they do not sell it anywhere near my area.. Not even close to my state..

    #19754
    starbright26
    Participant

    Well thats the assumption I was going on as well but their website has several varieties of grain-free dry foods listed…?? I love the idea of this if their grain-free line is up to par with the rest of their products.. I do not want to blindly try a new food though.

    #19750
    pugmomsandy
    Participant

    Only the WEF canned foods are grain free. I haven’t used any on your list but I have used Nutrisource grain free Lamb and Heartland Select formulas with good results on my fosters and it’s mid-priced. $50 for a large bag.

    #19743
    Sully’sMom
    Member

    I don’t have advice yet, as I’m at the same point, however I contacted Earthborn today (via email) and they were very responsive! Fast, pleasant, helpful and thorough. I’m definitely going to consider them. Both them and Dr. Tim’s Kinesis GF…

    #19735
    starbright26
    Participant

    I’ve been researching a few new grain-free foods to try for my pups and would like to hear any opinions, personal experiences with these foods, or other recommendations you may have. I’ve narrowed my choices down to Earthborn grain-free, 4health grain-free, and Whole Earth Farms grain-free.. Has any one heard of WEF grain-free?? There isn’t a review on the site, is it a newer food? I love the classic kibble but need grain-free for my girls now so any advice is welcome!! Thanks!

    #19665
    Mom2Cavs
    Member

    Holistic Select and Wellness make their own foods. Wellness does not use Diamond anymore. I am going to admit, however, that I’m feeding TSC’s 4Health grain free now (made by Ainsworth). I’ve tried Merrick and still use some of their canned food, but I had some major issues with the kibble. Also, a lot of foods contain tomato pomace or carrots that I’ve narrowed down as an intolerance for one of my Cavaliers. They are doing wonderfully on the 4Health Whitefish. And I’m highly aware that Diamond makes their regular 4Health, but I dd buy a small bag of the small bites. It’s chicken based and some grain inclusive, no potato, tomato pomace or carrots. I actually consider it somewhat limited in ingredients. I may mix this in, too. Also, the manager of my local TSC seems well versed in dog food/nutrition and is very nice and helpful. Even though I don’t really have a budget for their food, my husband is thrilled with the savings I’m getting with the 4Health lol.

    #19597
    starbright26
    Participant

    Hi, I am new to this site but am loving all the information I have found so far! However, I believe I’m overloading myself with info and its all running together, confusing the heck out of me! So I would love to just give a little information and get a little in return if possible.. We recently adopted a young feral pup and have been working to socialize/rehabilitate her. She is a “lethal white” (I despise that term) Catahoula mix- who is deaf and partially blind as well… We were this sweet girl’s last chance at adoption and I am so grateful we found her because she is blossoming in our household! Anyway, at about ten months of age, when we adopted her, she tore her ACL and was recovering from that when we noticed her limping getting worse despite strict confinement. We took her for X-rays and the vet diagnosed her with severe hip dysplasia in one of her hips. Sigh.. I could not make this up if I tried.. Luckily the other hip joint looks amazingly healthy! We have no idea about her past and as she seems to be somewhat of a genetic anomaly, we just want to do whatever we can to help her have a healthy, happy, hopefully long life! This girl deserves it. She is a healthy 70lbs, but we are trying to slim her down slightly. She is curently on Blue Buffalo now, but my question is if there is a better quality food that would be better suited to her joint needs or if supplimentation would suffice. I just read the calcium levels are most important earlier on and now that she is about 15 months old am I correct to assume that it is not the main concern anymore? Should we go grain-free to help with inflamation? Suppliments? What is my ideal path here? Please advise anyway you can.. I should mention we have several other animals and actual children, with another on the way, and will hopefully send them to college one day so we are certainly on a limited budget 🙂 THANK YOU!!!
    Rebecca

    #19491

    In reply to: Good food and budgets

    Mom2Cavs
    Member

    I just wanted to add that I’m feeding 4Health grain free and imho the kibble size is what I consider kinda large. In fact, Laverne (my smallest Cavalier at 18lbs.) has some trouble eating it dry, but not with canned added. Pugmomsandy…..my local TSC doesn’t sell Amicus (wish they did). I also love Merrick Thanksgiving Day Dinner canned food for my crew. I do wish they wouldn’t have added Carageenan in all their formulas now, but I don’t feed the food solely so I’m not too worried.

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