Purina Dog Chow (Dry)

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Rating: ★☆☆☆☆

Purina Dog Chow dry dog food receives the Advisor’s lowest rating of 1 star.

The Purina Dog Chow product line includes one dry dog food.

Yet since we’re unable to locate the AAFCO nutritional adequacy statement for this dog food on the Purina website, it’s impossible for us to report specific life stage recommendations for this recipe.

Purina Dog Chow Complete and Balanced

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 24% | Fat = 11% | Carbs = 57%

Ingredients: Whole grain corn, poultry by-product meal, corn gluten meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of vitamin E), meat and bone meal, brewers rice, soybean meal, whole grain wheat, egg and chicken flavor, animal digest, calcium phosphate, salt, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, l-lysine monohydrochloride, choline chloride, added color (yellow 6, yellow 5, red 40, blue 2), zinc sulfate, vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, niacin, vitamin A supplement, copper sulfate, calcium pantothenate, garlic oil, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin D3 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 5.1%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis21%10%NA
Dry Matter Basis24%11%57%
Calorie Weighted Basis22%26%52%

The first ingredient in this dog food is corn. Corn is an inexpensive and controversial cereal grain of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

For this reason, we do not consider corn a preferred component in any dog food.

The second ingredient is poultry by-product meal, a dry rendered product of slaughterhouse waste. It’s made from what’s left of slaughtered poultry after all the prime cuts have been removed.

In a nutshell, poultry by-products are those unsavory and inedible leftovers deemed “unfit for human consumption”.

In addition to organs (the nourishing part), this stuff can contain almost anything — feet, beaks, undeveloped eggs — anything except quality skeletal muscle (real meat).

We consider poultry by-products slightly lower in quality than a single-species ingredient (like chicken by-products).

On the brighter side, by-product meals are meat concentrates and contain nearly 300% more protein than fresh poultry.

The third ingredient is corn gluten meal. Gluten is the rubbery residue remaining once corn has had most of its starchy carbohydrate washed out of it.

Compared to meat, glutens are inferior grain-based proteins lower in many of the essential amino acids dogs need for life.

This inexpensive plant-based ingredient can significantly boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient is animal fat. Animal fat is a generic by-product of rendering, the same high-temperature process used to make meat meals.

Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, this item could come from almost anywhere: roadkill, spoiled supermarket meat, dead, diseased or dying cattle — even euthanized livestock.

For this reason, we do not consider generic animal fat a quality ingredient.

The fifth ingredient is meat and bone meal, a dry “rendered product from mammal tissues, including bone, exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents”.1

Meat and bone meal can have a lower digestibility than most other meat meals.

Scientists believe this decreased absorption may be due to the ingredient’s higher ash and lower essential amino acid content.2

What’s worse, this particular item is anonymous. It doesn’t even specify the source animal.

Even though meat and bone meals are still considered protein-rich meat concentrates, we do not consider a generic ingredient like this a quality item.

The sixth ingredient is brewers rice. Brewers rice is a cereal grain by-product consisting of the small fragments left over after milling whole rice. Aside from the caloric energy it contains, this item is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

By the way, contrary to popular belief, brewers rice has nothing to do with the process of brewing beer.

The seventh ingredient is soybean meal. Soybean meal is relatively useful by-product — what remains of soybeans after all the oil has been removed.

Although soybean meal contains 48% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat.

And less costly plant-based products like this can notably boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The eighth ingredient is wheat. Wheat is another cereal grain and subject to the same issues as corn (previously discussed).

After egg and chicken flavors we find animal digest. Animal digest is a chemically hydrolyzed mixture of animal by-products that is usually sprayed onto the surface of a dry kibble to improve its taste.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With five notable exceptions

First, we’re always disappointed to find artificial coloring in any dog food. Coloring is used to make the product more appealing to you, not your dog. After all, do you really think your dog cares what color his kibble is?

Next, garlic oil may be a controversial item. We say “may be” here because we are not certain of the oil’s chemical relationship to raw garlic itself.

Although most experts favor the ingredient for its numerous health benefits, garlic (in rare cases) has been linked to Heinz body anemia in dogs.3

However, the limited professional literature we surveyed provided no definitive warnings regarding the use of garlic — especially when used in small amounts (as it likely is here).

Thirdly, this Purina Dog Chow product also contains menadione, a controversial form of vitamin K linked to liver toxicity, allergies and the abnormal break-down of red blood cells.

Next, we find no mention of probiotics, friendly bacteria applied to the surface of the kibble after processing.

And lastly, the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb. Non-chelated minerals are usually associated with lower quality dog foods.

Purina Dog Chow Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Purina Dog Chow looks to be a below-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 24%, a fat level of 11% and estimated carbohydrates of about 57%.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 48%.

Below-average protein. Below-average fat. And above-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

When you consider the protein-boosting effect of the corn gluten meal and soybean meal, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a limited amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Purina Dog Chow is a plant-based dry dog food using a limited amount of poultry by-product and meat and bone meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 1 star.

Not recommended.

Special Alert

Rice ingredients can sometimes contain arsenic. Until the US FDA establishes safe upper levels for arsenic content, pet owners may wish to limit the total amount of rice fed in a dog's daily diet.

A Final Word

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Each review is offered in good faith and has been designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food.

However, our rating system is not intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in specific health benefits for your pet.

For a better understanding of how we analyze each product, please read our article, "The Problem with Dog Food Reviews".

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt, consult a qualified veterinary professional for help.

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Notes and Updates

12/20/2009 Original review
07/29/2010 Review updated
05/17/2012 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials, 2008 Edition
  2. Shirley RB and Parsons CM, Effect of Ash Content on Protein Quality of Meat and Bone Meal, Department of Animal Sciences, University of Illinois, Poultry Science, 2001 80: 626-632
  3. Yamato et al, Heinz Body hemolytic anemia with eccentrocytosis from ingestion of Chinese chive (Allium tuberosum) and garlic (Allium sativum) in a dog, Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association 41:68-73 (2005)
  • Strey

    Good idea! thanks i will def let him know

  • Shawna

    I agree with the others — it’s never too late to improve the diet. My Chi was adopted at 9 years old and wasn’t that healthy. She had a HUGE transformation on her new diet though. They greying in her eyes went away (not cataracts), her coat went from dull and light brown to SUPER soft and cinnamon colored etc..

    Your brother can also improve any diet she is on by adding species appropriate human foods — like an egg a couple times per week and sardines packed in water. Both are usually relatively cost effective and can make a big impact.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Ohh…gotcha. I misunderstood your post. :)

    Tell your brother to check out Authority’s new grain-free food – it actually looks pretty decent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    I had a feeling that’s what you were saying, Strey.

    I agree with HDM’s statement and I also believe that dogs, and people, are resilient and a change in diet even later in life can make a marked improvement in overall health; read: it’s never too late!

    Maybe do some comparison shopping for your brother and he might even realize that he can feed a much better quality food for less than he’s paying right now.

  • Strey

    She was fed really cheap food butt nowww she is being fed Authority which i know is a bit better. I thought about it after i asked this question and i guess its just risky feeding them 1 star food for there whole life. I guess its like if i ate fast food everyday xD

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I wouldn’t say Authority is “the cheapest of the cheap” dog food – while it’s not a great food, there are many brands that are much worse. There’s no way to say for sure if things would have been different had she been on a better quality food. I would assume so and I strongly believe that food plays a significant role in overall health and longevity – however other factors are at play as well, namely genetic factors and environmental factors.

  • strey

    my brothers dog was fed the cheapest of the cheap dog food for all of her life. Right now she is 11 years old and has been eating Authority Weight management this year. She has a few old dog lumps (idk what theyre called) and she has some joint pain. So my question is….What would have been the difference if she was fed…lets say orijen….For all of her life. Would she be healthier right now?

  • Shawna

    Thanks HDM!!
    That should give Lance many options to look at if he’s interested…

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Good quality, easy to find, reasonably priced: Pure Balance, Whole Earth Farms, Healthwise, Fromm Classics, Eagle Pack, Pro Pac – if not opposed to feeding Diamond products – 4Health, Kirkland, Diamond Naturals, Canidae, Professional, Premium Edge, Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover’s Soul.

  • Shawna

    Hi Lance — sorry for the delayed response. I’m usually not on during the evenings much.

    Please do consider the fact that a lot of the hysteria and adverse comments are generated from data others have read but can’t remember their source or didn’t read the original source. People are going to read my FDA link and all they will remember is pento (or maybe just poison) in animal fat as an example. They can’t prove it but they saw a reliable source once some time back.. Of course, there is always that hysteria that is nothing more as well…. Ughhh

    I have several brands that I recommend — Orijen, Nature’s Logic, Nature’s Variety Instinct, Earthborn Primitive Naturals and more. However, changing the diet by eliminating un-named sources of protein, food dyes and excess amounts of excitotoxins in any food and increasing protein will be an improvement. Walmart just apparently released a pretty decent food that is quite reasonably priced (based on comments by others here on DFA).

    I know ingredients pretty well but I’m not as well versed in foods as other here. Can you guys recommend foods that are good quality, easy to find and reasonably priced?

    Whatever food you feed (even if you decide to stay with Dog Chow), you can increase the nutrition of the diet by adding human foods. Left over meat, raw or lightly cooked eggs, canned sardines. If you fish or hunt (or have friends that do) the left over parts are great to use. My boss hunts and gives me the deer heart etc. Some dogs like fish heads (mine, not so much :) etc etc.

    That is quite the mix you have there!! I bet she is absolutely ADORABLE!! And I bet she is SMART — JRT are way smart and Rotties are no dummies for sure. I’m not familiar with Blue Heelers.. :(

    I know you said your vet is trained in nutrition and was happy with Dog Chow but there are those also trained in nutrition that wouldn’t recommend foods like Dog Chow to their enemies. Might be a bit dramatic but true none the less. Lew Olsen, PhD Natural Nutrition, Rottie breeder and nutrition author is one of those.
    Best of luck and health to you and your girl!!!!!

  • Guest

    Vets are well trained in veterinary medicine and surgery. Not really so much in animal nutrition. The majority of their nutrition elective is conducted by employees of those huge processed pet manufacturing corporations. In fact, even Dr. Ian Billinghurst, a well known raw food advocate (Dr. Tom Lonsdale is an even better raw food advocate), admits the above fact in one of his books, when undergoing his veterinary studies at university in 1975 or so.

    So one can imagine the bias that would result from being lectured by one of those processed pet food conglomerate nutritionists.

  • InkedMarie

    No offense but a vet who thinks Dog Chow is fine is not a vet with nutrition as his area of expertise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Beaglemom,

    I put a lot of trust in my vet. Dog nutrition was his area of expertise, and he went into a lot of reasons why Dog Chow was fine. (Again, it was part of a list of about five or six food that he recommended.)

    He then went on to share some horror stories of what’s happened to some dogs that were on so-called “premium” diets.

    And no, I don’t think that all premium diets are bad. I’m sure that there are a lot of dogs who do really well on them. I just think that there seems to be a real knee-jerk reaction to Dog Chow that’s based more on hype than reasoning.

    I am always willing to change my mind about pretty much anything though.

  • beaglemom

    Fair enough, though admittedly there are some vets who simply don’t care to learn about what’s really put into these foods. I know I did not provide you with the references you requested (though shawna did a good job), I just prefer to know what every ingredient on the list actually refers to… This one leaves a lot(!!) of unknowns — meat and bone meal, I mean what IS that?? I also find it careless for companies to add things that serve absolutely no nutritional purpose, like the colorings. Thank you for being willing to learn, there are many here who think the dog looks fine so the review must be wrong. External health can be deceiving. My dogs may get sick anyway even eating the higher end foods but they rely on me to make the best decisions I can for them – the reason why I spend as much time as I do researching companies and the ingredients they use. Good luck.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Even if it does work the steroids are shortening his life and they are onlt treating a symptom, not the problem. My dog with the same symptoms had to go grain and chicken free, but he needs no medications.

  • http://www.facebook.com/annie.russell.33 Annie Russell

    I told her to find something that he will eat besides this stuff because the itching and gnawing is only making things worse and using topical stuff isn’t going to work.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I have Border Collies and a JRT. Border Collies, as the breed was developed, were fed primarily oatmeal. Obviously they survived and were even healthy enough to carry litters of puppies to term and nurse said litters and work long hard hours. That doesn’t make oatmeal a good dog food, it makes dogs pretty amazing at surviving on almost anything. I have one that could probably do fine on the oatmeal diet and one that it would probably die inside of a month. That’s the way it is with dogs. And us too. We can get away with eating a lousy diet for quite a long time when we are young. That doesn’t make it a good diet. And some of us are going to pay heavily for our bad eating habits. Just like for my kids, I control what they eat, and I would rather it be something that I know is good quality nutrition rather than junk, even if I can get away with it for a while. Personally, I think it is every bit as bad as McDonalds or the questionable contents of a freezer burrito. I occassionally eat McDonalds and freezer burritos, but I wouldn’t eat them day in and day out for life. And that is what dogs do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Shawna,

    Thank you for your response. This is actually the kind of thing that is worth considering, as you’re providing facts rather than anecdotes and hysteria.

    Just curious – do you have a brand that you recommend? My dog is half Rot, a quarter Blue Heeler, and a quarter Jack Russel. (She looks like a Rot puppy, and I always shock people when I say that she’s three years old.)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Again though, it’s not that there are “no ill effects” – my dog is in great shape. If you saw her and I told her I was feeding her (choose your brand here) you would have no problem believing me. Her weight is good, her fur is shiny, her muscle tone is excellent.

    I’m willing to concede that there might be better brands out there, but there is no way that it’s as bad as some folks on this board are making it out to be.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Actually, my vet recommended it with my last dog when the premium stuff was making him fat. He recommended several brands, and Dog Chow was one of them. I did a double-take when he said that, but then he explained that it has an unfair rap.

    I made the switch with my other dogs and they did great. My current one has eaten nothing but it, and as I’ve said, she’s three and in great shape/health.

    I know it wasn’t you who said it, but the comparison to feeding your kids junk doesn’t wash. If I gave my son nothing but junk food, he wouldn’t be in great shape and the differences would be noticeable. When it comes to my dog, there is nothing notable about the difference in her health and the health of a dog on a premium brand.

  • Pattyvaughn

    The scratching is a symptom of a bigger problem, not no problem. The dog is addicted to some of the ingredients in the food. That’s just the way Purina wants it, customer loyalty through addiction. Great company, hey?

  • http://www.facebook.com/annie.russell.33 Annie Russell

    My mom feeds her jack russell/rat terrier mix this food with no problems except for frequent scratching and gnawing with hair loss. She has tried better foods and grain free but the dog won’t eat anything else even when she mixes canned food with it. Shes gave up and said i don’t know what else to do other than rub coconut oil on him and spray him with hydrocortisone spray.

  • Shawna

    Part 2

    Animal Digest — The AAFCO defines animal digest as “it is material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_digest

    Anything that has been enzymatically broken down (or hydrolyzed) causes the amino acids in the proteins to “free” from their chains. The human and dog body is used to eating these protein as chains not as free amino acids. A few of these “freed” amino acids are referred to as excitotoxins — aspartic and glutamic acids are two. When freed, these two amino acids can cause illnesses like brain damage, multiple sclerosis, nerve damage, aggression, cancer and more. I can give you LOTS of scientific papers on this if you want.

    Not all people are as suseptible to the harms of these excitotoxins (depending on the health of the individual) but as they bioaccumulate they can be causing damage LONG before it is diagnosed —- if it ever is diagnosed.

    The food colorings in Dog Chow, especially Red 40, are known to be carcinogenic. Of course, not every person or pet that is exposed to food colorings will develop cancer but it does increase the risk. A dog is at a higher risk simply by eating most types of kibble by the way. Dr. Demian Dressler of the Dog Cancer Blog discusses it in is article “Dog Food: Is There a Cancer Risk” http://www.dogcancerblog.com/dog-food-is-there-a-cancer-risk/
    As mentioned before, this is not specific to Dog Chow though..
    I have more but again this is getting a bit long. I can post the additional data if you’ld like.

  • Shawna

    Hi Lance,

    There’s a couple ingredients in this food that are questionable. However, like with anything questionable, there are degrees and differing viewpoints.

    1. Animal fat, animal digest and meat and bone meal have all be identified as ingredients that CAN (but may not) contain the euthanasia drug pentobarbital per the FDA. Fom the FDA’s website “There appear to be associations between rendered or hydrolyzed ingredients and the presence of pentobarbital in dog food. The ingredients Meat and Bone Meal (MBM), Beef and Bone Meal (BBM), Animal Fat (AF), and Animal Digest (AD) are rendered or hydrolyzed from animal sources that could include euthanized animals.” http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CVM/CVMFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/ucm129134.htm

    The FDA reports that there is not enough to cause harm however the US Fish and Wildlife Service disagrees with this and states ”

    “Rendering is not an acceptable way to dispose of a pentobarbital-tainted carcass. The drug residues are not destroyed in the rendering process, so the tissues and by-products may contain poison and must not be used for animal feed….

    All pentobarbital-euthanized carcasses should be prominently tagged with one or more highly-visible “POISON” warning labels. Bagged animals should have a label affixed to the carcass itself and also attached to the outside of the bag.” http://cpharm.vetmed.vt.edu/USFWS/USFWSFPentobarbFactSheet.pdf

    Obviously there are some that will agree with the FDA that a little bit of pento is no issue. I just happen to agree with the Fish & Wildlife Service.

    I have more to add but this post is long enough already. I’ll start a second post with the additional thoughts.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I said IBD was suspected. You diagnose IBD with a biopsy. When we changed foods the symptoms went away. There would be nothing to biopsy, so it remained suspected until such time as he had a flair up again, which in a years time he has not had.
    You see the world the way you want, like I said there are plenty of people who have posted on here their negative experiences with Purina.
    Yes, I am completely aware that there are dogs that can handle eating this stuff with seemingly no ill effects, just like there are people who can eat junk with no ill effects. That doesn’t make junk good. That only makes it survivable. I wouldn’t feed my children a diet of nothing but junk food no matter how they did on it because I know one day it will catch up to them. You may do as you please.

  • beaglemom

    You claimed I had no “experience” with this food and I am telling you that I did. What is it about dog chow that appeals to you so much anyway? Is it the by products? All the pretty colored dyes? Or maybe the animal digest? Thanks but no thanks. Use the common sense you speak about and feed your dog real food.

  • Guest

    Yeah, I agree that making a perceived correlation doesn’t mean direct causation. But in this case, this chosen dog food, is a good starting point. I wouldn’t feed this food to my dog if you paid me a million dollars.

    I don’t feed any kibble full stop. But for the love of God, why would one choose this food considering the atrocious ingredients when there are at least, a whole lot better ingredients used to manufacture other kibble brands, like Artemis and Earthborn to name a couple. And these aren’t even that much more dearer. In fact, when you consider that you’d only have to feed almost half the amount than this poor dog food, you’d result in long term savings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Are you aware of the “post hoc” logical fallacy? Correlation does NOT equal causation. Isn’t it possible that something else entirely caused that rotting mouth? And again, if Dog Chow causes this sort of stuff, why is my dog so healthy?

    The reasoning doesn’t even pass the basic test of common sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Ahh yes, there’s that condescending sort of reply that I was expecting.

    Just curious, how do you explain my dog, and all the other dogs, who eat nothing but Dog Chow and DON’T have IBS?

    It’s interesting because you can only say that it was “suspected”. You don’t know if that’s what it is. What about the dogs who get IBS on the supposed high-quality stuff?

    And I don’t understand your “rose colored glasses” comment. Do you even understand how that expression is used correctly? Like I said, I’ll be convinced with some evidence.

  • Pattyvaughn

    My puppy was on Purina when I got him at 8 weeks old. I immediately had to take him to the vet due to vomiting and mucousy bloody stools. He was diagnosed as having IBS, suspected of IBD, because of the food. We switched him off of it and he has not had an episode of IBS, has not progressed to IBD, since.
    There have been plenty of people who have shared their bad experience with Purina. You’ll find them if you take off the rose colored glasses and look.

  • beaglemom

    Actually, I adopted a 9 year old dog last year that came to me COVERED in lumps with a rotting mouth (half his teeth had to be removed). He was fed Dog Chow for 9 years.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    Evidence, shmevidence.

    I also want to add that what I find interesting is that all of the positive reviews are from people who have actually tried it – well, their dogs have tried it. The negative comments don’t seem to come from any kind of actual experience using it.

  • beaglemom

    Hi Lance, in my opinion the ingredients speak for themselves — I don’t need any studies to tell me they’re gross.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1335784639 Lance Christian Johnson

    The comments on this page are pretty amusing. Over and over again, we get people who give specific examples of their dogs that have eaten nothing but Dog Chow and haven’t had all the health problems that they’re supposed to have.

    People respond by calling them stupid and/or other names.

    It seems to me that if Dog Chow really was as bad as they were saying, there would be some actual studies done on this that one could cite.

    My dog is three, has plenty of energy, a nice coat, no allergies, and is constantly complimented on what a good looking dog she is. She has had nothing but Dog Chow her whole life. If there is a real reason to not give it to her, I’d like to hear it. So far, I haven’t read a single one – just a lot of hype and hysteria which seems to be in no small part generated by the makers of so-called “premium” dog foods.

    So, how about some evidence? Some studies? Such bold statements are being made, that if true, should be pretty easy to back up. I’m guessing people are just going to insult me though and tell me that it’s only a matter of time before my perfectly healthy dog starts getting sick.

    On a side note, I like how one of the “bad” things is that Dog Chow could contain road kill. I hate to break it to you, but to a dog, road kill is good eating. My dog would jump at the chance to eat some dead animal that she found. She also likes goose poop that she finds in the park. Connoisseurs, dogs are not.

  • Kate

    you’re lucky you haven’t had trouble, this food is terrible. Shelters feed Purina because Purina donates it. People here are more than happy to help you find a higher quality food on a budget, all you need to do is ask.

  • Lindz45

    I have always fed my dogs purina and my bf has to he has a dog german sherperd that is 15 years old and has never ever had a health issue and my mom would feed her doghigh dollar dog food and it was always sick andmy vet recommands dog chow I have 4 dogs and never had a problem my dogs are health and not everyone has 70 dollars to buy they dog food I dont know anyone who does that I know I dont have the money but I know I have maney to take my dogs to the vet and take good care of my dogs they are my kids but only thing I have only heard of bad thangs about high dog food recalls and makeing dogs sick and bc u feed ur dog purina doesnt mean they will b sick later bc ur not paying now I have a dog that is 7 years old and she has never been sick and shelters.dont feed dogs 70dollar dog food they feed them what they can and people that adopt sure dont feed them 70 dollar dog food maybe some if it wasnt good for dogs they wouldnt b aloud to sell it

  • LabsRawesome

    If you really are a “smart” person, you will not feed your dog ANY Purina products.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I’m not surprised your dog had problems after only eaten one brand for over 7 years and only being exposed to a certain set of ingredients. Not sure how slowly your introduction was but it could take a couple months. Did you supplement with any probiotics or digestive enzymes? Did you go from a 1 star food to a 5 star food or did you take baby steps?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Since you’re a pretty smart person, do a little more research.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Dee –

    Sometimes when you switch from a very low quality food to a high quality food dogs will go through a detox period in which they may shed excessively, develop hot spots, have runny eyes, diarrhea, etc. The dog is just ridding its body of the toxins that have accumulated while eating the low quality food. What “big end brand” dog food did you try?

  • Dee

    I have fed my dogs d
    Puppy chow and then dog chow and they have never been to the vet for any illnesses,both dogs are over 7 now,we switched too a big end brand dog food,slowly introduced and now my damn dog has 2 hotspots I am so mad I am now back too dog chow.never ever again will I switch,and I am a pretty smart person but now I feel so stupid for falling for all the BS.

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  • Pattyvaughn

    Next time you run out try a can of fish or cook up a few eggs or something like that.

  • shira

    I had to give my dog Purina dog chow BC we were out of his normal food and I got a 3 kg bag for free, a member thing dealio from a store that sells dog food and agriculture. Anyway, maybe that should have been an eye opener… I have been feeding him that for about 3 days maybe and so yesterday I read that Purina Beneful contained lead and antifreeze so I had a gut feeling that it was just Purina that I had been feeding my dog for the last 3 days and I was right, so I googled and came upon this site. I’m off to get his normal dog food in a few minutes.

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  • http://twitter.com/jtreags John Thomas Reagle

    First, I’m just glad that a site like this exists. Second, I want to make it clear to all (especially the non-believers) that Purina is a terrible company for making such a terrible product that’s marketed as nothing but great. I have a dog that eats strictly Wellness Core Dry & Wet Food as well as Wellness & Blue Buffalo Treats. He has had no digestive issues whatsoever and has had a ton of praise by the vet for his appearance and great health.

    On the other hand, my parents own a Rat Terrier who only eats Purina Dog Chow. He is the same age as my Beagle but has suffered through multiple trips to the ER, lesions, hot spots, digestive issues including both diarrhea & vomiting. I’m trying to convince them that their dog needs a switch before it’s too late.

    Lastly, to all those who want to come on here and blindly defend an evil multi-billion dollar behemoth that makes its money on the backs of gullible owners and poor suffering dogs who live a dire life that’s cut many years too short….STOP! It’s almost intolerable to listen to you. I can’t stand another imbecile coming on her and saying “a kibble is just a kibble, a protein is just a protein, a fat is just a fat, a carb is just a carb.” It’s garbage, pure and utter nonsense.

  • Irritated

    Purina Dog Chow is a great choice of food for your dogs. And all dogs who are fed this crap are in EXCELLENT health. There is no such thing as global warming. Elvis is still alive. Obama wasn’t born in the USA. And playing with yourself, will, in fact, make you go blind. That should work out just fine for everyone of you out here who refuse to believe the science. Dogs and cats are born carnivores. This isn’t a myth nor a conspiracy to get you to spend more of your money on decent quality dog food. It’s just a simple truth. A fact. Your vet is not going to advocate for a grain free diet because they know that dogs fed products (it’s not food) like Purina Dog Chow are destine to be recurring patients.
    I suppose as humans one could live off a diet of french fries and cola. You’d probably survive but you would not be healthy. Just because your dog chow feed pet is still breathing and has a “shiny” coat, this does not mean he/she is in good health. If you haven’t done even a modest amount of research on line to understand the benefits of a protein based diet, you should do so for the sake of your pet. If you have done the research and simply refuse to believe the science, and continue to feed this crap…you do not deserve to have dogs in your care.

  • Brad

    Thats because you cant switch them over all at once. Their body’s are malnourished and have adapted to it. If you went from eating ho cakes and syrup all your life to good food all at once, you would get sick too. It was documented in the forteis and fifties in apalachia. You have crippled their digestive system, now you must let it heal by weaning them from a high carb diet to a meat based diet slowly. Dogs can die from protein poisoning, just like humans!

  • Brad

    You are a dufs! I’m glad you live in Colorado, because I don’t.

  • Bob K

     Coloradolady – Some people think the fast food restaurants provide a well balanced diet too.  If you love your 14 year old dog, you would give them a better diet and perhaps keep them warm during the day.  Dogs are not wolves, Coyotes or cattle, they are domesticated animals.  Kids that are abused and starving also love their parents.   When was the last time you spent the day outside in the winter?  Dogs are very loving animals, they wag their tail because they love you unconditionally not always because they are happy. 

  • Pattyvaughn

    I guess you feed your kids a diet of Laffy Taffy and think that’s just fine because they’re not dead yet, because that’s about what this food is, sugars and artificial colors, yum yum so nutritious.

  • Valerie Noyes

    Wow, you can read the ingredients and still make that statement. I feel sorry for your dogs. Not only for the sorry excuse of a food you’re feeding them but for having to live outside. Dogs want to be with their families. They need love and attention.

  • Coloradolady

    This is a crock! We have a 14+ yo dog who basically lives outdoors (comes in at night due to very cold temps) and he has been on Purina Dog Chow since he was weened off of Purina Puppy Chow at 6 months. He has been completely healthy, his vet checks are always right on and I would swear by this product. We had a Chow adult and Chow puppy all eating Purina Dog Chow with no problems. All happy and healthy. I think this is a ploy to get people to spend more money on fancy-schmancy foods. Someone is in cahoots with  the makers of expensive dog foods. I will NOT feed our dogs anything but Puppy Chow and Dog Chow!!

  • Dog Food Ninja

    How did you change foods? Did you slowly transition from the dog chow to the grain free starting 25% new 75% old and gradually work them up to 50/50 after a week, then gradually down the other way 75% new 25% old for the next week? If you switched straight off or only mixed a few days, then yes, your dogs would probably have terrible loose stool and gas.

  • annie

    My mom and i both always fed purina puppy chow and purina dog chow and all the dogs were healthy and lived a long life with no problems. We fed grain free food for awhileand our dogs got deathly sick on it.

  • annie

    I always fed my dogs purina dog chow and they were healthy and  they was only at the vet yearly for vaccinations. They lived a happy healthy long life. Shiny coats etc. But i decided to try them on grain free foods to give them something better well biggest mistake of my life. They was vomiting had diarrhea and looked nasty and gaunt. Put them back on purina dog chow and it all cleared up. Although, purina as well as other foods wasn’t doing my current boston terrier any good at all so i had to switch to IAMS and it’s so far the only thing doing him any good. All dog food is crap no mater what kind it is. I’m thinking about just going totally raw or cooking for my dog .

  • Kip

    it is still crap food

  • kip

    Well when they do get sick you will know why.

  • Kip

    You are absolutely right on the mark.  People are so blind they chose not to see they are slowly but surely poisening their pets with this trash.  Wake up folks and protect your furry family member!!!! FEEEEED good FOOD!!!

  • Joe

    Never ever will I give my shepard that nasty crap again. He got ear infections in both ears and just about chewed his tail off. I put him on Blue and all is well.

  • Evelynfedeleme

    My dogs have been vomiting since eating purina and i now changed foods now they do not vomit

  • Shawna

    OH MY GOSH!!!!  Okay, in that case I’m REALLY glad I missed that :) ……………………………………

  • Pattyvaughn

    Some half man impressed with his body parts.

  • Shawna

    Hate it when I miss the action what happened?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Thanks Dr Mike

  • InkedMarie

    Ya think? I read it in email, gone now

  • Pattyvaughn

    Dr Mike,

    We’ve got a creeper.

  • Hasnainashaq

     wow you have the same name i do.

  • smd shawna

     hi

  • Hasnain454

    i might add that my dog loves purina and i do not know why it is rated one, i stick my pen!$ in it and it feels just like my dogs doing it do my dog’s @nu$

  • Shawna

    Darmatre ~~ they have known for over 10 years now that senior dogs actually need up to 50% more protein then adult dogs because they do not digest protein as efficiently.

    They have also known for well over 10 years that dogs with kidney disease actually do worse on a lower protein diet then on a moderate to high, high quality protein diet.  Protein does not damage kidneys — phosphorus however does (in already diseased kidneys only).  Grains are high in phosphorus.  In fact, holistic kidney diets do not include any grains except sushi rice or cream of wheat as these are the only two that are low enough in phosphorus.  And then these only need to be included in the later stages of the disease.  KD is a disease I am WELL versed in.  My dog (pictured in my avatar) has had kd since birth.  Symptoms (excessive drinking and urination) were noticed as early as 6 weeks of age.  She was officially diagnosed at her one year blood work.  She turned 6 years old the end of June and is still in EXCELLENT health.  NEVER requires veterinary care, meds, sub-q fluids etc.  And, she has been on a high protein (no grain) raw diet since weaning.

    This can all be verified by nutritionists (such as Mary Straus and lew Olsen), vets (like Dr. Karen Becker), dog food researchers like Iams and research papers and journals..

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Darmatre –

    “As your dog ages he does not need all that protein.”

    This could not be further from the truth. Senior dogs need up to 50% more protein than adults.

    Excerpt from an article written by Dr. Becker:

    “The reason senior dog food formulas have reduced protein content is based on flawed logic.The exceptionally poor quality protein used in most commercial pet
    foods is difficult for the bodies of even young, healthy pets to
    process. Rendered protein sources put chronic strain on your dog’s
    kidneys and liver as her body attempts to digest and assimilate food
    that is not biologically suitable.
    Years of a diet based on terrible quality, rendered protein
    compromises kidney and liver function, which is why commercial ‘senior’
    dog foods contain less protein than adult maintenance formulas.
    Once your pet’s organs start to fail from years of a diet of
    low-grade protein, if you to continue to feed the same quality diet, you
    should select a ‘senior’ formula with reduced protein content.
    It’s an unfortunate situation, because your dog actually needs more
    protein as she ages – not less — in order to maintain healthy lean
    muscle mass and good organ and immune function. But the type of protein
    most dogs thrive on is whole, unprocessed, and preferably raw.”

  • Darmatre

    Are you feeds jerky treats?
    Just read today of 365 dogs dead from the treats
    Please look it up-this could have been the issue

  • Darmatre

    Is is it Organic?

  • Darmatre

    I AGREE THAT DOG (FOOD) IS NOT HEALTHY BUT PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT AS YOUR DOG AGES HE DOES NOT NEED ALL THAT PROTEIN! ITS A STRAIN ON THE KIDNEYS
    I HAVE FEED MANY KINDS OF DOG FOODS AND I ALSO FEED LENTILS AND BROWN RICE AND VEGES AND FRESH EGGS I FEED LOTS OF HEALTHY STUFF
    I HAVE NEVER HAD A SICK DOG AND I HAVE HAD 18 DOGS! ALL LIVED TO 17 TO 18 YEARS OLD (BIG DOGS)!
    I HAVE BOUGHT SUPER EXPENSIVE DOGS FOODS (ORGANIC) AND MY DOGS REALLY DO NOT LIKE THEM!
    *THEY LOVE ROAD KILL THOUGH!) BECAUSE THEY ARE DOGS!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU BUY YOUR DOG DOES HAVE TO LIKE IT!
    YES I STILL HAVE DOGS (3) BUT I DO AGREE THAT WITH WHAT IS IN DOG FOOD AND SO MUCH OF IT FROM CHINA THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUT PETS FOOD AND OUR OWN

  • Kip

    that’s because it’s full of corn, if you ate nothing but corn your stools would be firm too.

  • Kip

    you are foolish my friend and just can’t understand what this food is.  Garbage.

  • Kip

    Purina is guilty of false advertising and should be held accountable for those ads for both Dog Chow and Beneful.  The food is digusting garbage and contributes to allergies, cancer, digestive problems and the list goes on.  It makes me sick that they claim to be healthy and of course we all know it is an out and out lie to the public.  I cringe when I see anyone purchase Purina Puppy Chow because I know they will have a sick dog and huge vet bills for most of their pets short life. 

  • Dog Food Ninja

    Many of the people who claim their dogs are sooo healthy on Dog Chow (or what ever other brand of crap food) are the same people who have their dogs at the vet’s office every month getting it shots for it’s “allergies” or just don’t understand why their dog always gets hot-spots.  Or why their dog is covered with fatty tumors.  And they never question why they have to get their dogs supplements for their joint problems and buy probiotics for their digestive problems.  But it couldn’t be the food, of course.  Purina is good.  They have been making food for decades, and they wouldn’t (or couldn’t-I hear that one too) make food that isn’t healthful. 

    Really, folks?  You think they really care about your dog?  Your dog is a dollar sign to them.  Have you looked at the ingredients to a TV dinner?  Or a “meal” at McDonald’s?  It’s repulsive.  And that’s what they’re allowed to feed US!.  You think it’s somehow more regulated for your dog?  Wake up, folks.        

  • LabsRawesome

     Sorry Rosecoo, that last post was actually for cmjb88.

  • LabsRawesome

     If you want to feed your dog this crap, no one can stop you. But it is just a bag of carcinogenic poison. 

  • Rosecoo

    I totally agree. Thats why I wrote on here so people should know about some dry food and what it does to your dog. My dog was very ill and I thought I was going to lose him. I had changed to small dog food thinking it was the same as what he was having but smaller. How wrong was I!!!

  • BryanV21

    Being ignorant is fine, as we all can’t know everything. But to make comments like that while so much information is around you is insane.

  • Rosecoo

    Re 
    Cmjb88, they say ignorance is bliss Bryan dont they! I nearly lost my dog through ignorance

  • InkedMarie

    Thats great that your family’s dogs are healthy but that doesnt change the fact that Purina foods are NOT good, at all.

  • InkedMarie

    I agree with you, Bryan

  • BryanV21

    I can’t help but believe anybody that feeds their pets “chow” doesn’t know enough about their pet’s health to comment on it. In their eyes, as long as their pet is alive, they are in good health. Which is beyond dumb. For example, I’m alive and well, but I know that I could be in much better shape. I just don’t have the proof of that since I don’t regularly see my doctor to check on things like cholesterol levels.

  • Cmjb88

    I’v used Dog Chow & Cat Chow for ever and NEVER had problems with ANY of my pet’s. My parents have always used Dog Chow & Cat Chow since I was a baby ( i’m 49 ) and they have Never had problems with there pet health due to bad Diet! Purina Pet Foods forever!!!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    George W –

    I agree with Alexandra.

    Protein is not protein. The higher quality the meat the more bioavailable the protein. Plans proteins have a low bioavailability to dogs as well as dogs are carnivores and not meant to eat large volumes of plant matter. Dog Chow consists of mostly plant protein and a small quantity of low quality meat – so in other words your dog isn’t absorbing much of the protein.

    Fat is not fat. There is saturated fat, omega 3 fats, omega, 6 fats, omega 9 fat…etc. It’s necessary to balance these for optimum health. It appears to me that there is no source of healthy Omega 3 fat in this food.

    Carbs are not carbs. There are simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates. Different sources of carbs have different digestabilities. Also dogs have no dietary need for carbs and this food is almost all carbs.

    Also, how can you say all kibble is the same? Not all kibbles have all the added colorings, soy, corn, and by-products this garbage does.

  • Alexandra

    George W,

    I must disagree with you. Dog Chow contains nothing but poisons. Eleven red flags, most are carcinogenic. This is a plant based food. The protein isn’t as beneficial to them as an animal source would be.

    Dogs do much better on higher protein kibbles, carbs provide no benefit to them. The lower the protein the higher the carbs AND greater the output from the dog as they don’t use it.

    Loose stools on grain free foods are often from over feeding.

    I understand the money issue, BUT for what you pay for Purina, you could at least get into a three star food, that isn’t as toxic.

  • George W

    I hate to say it, but I switched from high-end 5 star foods to Dog Chow.  My dogs constantly became intolerant to ingredients in Canidae, Solid Gold, and Merrick; Merrick was probably the worst as far as loose stools and throwing up.  With Dog Chow, there is no puking, no throwup, and no loose stools.  I think that when it all comes down to it, when you cook stuff down into a kibble, dry dog food is all the same.  Raw diets might be the best, but I am a true believer that dry dog food is all the same.  Protein is protein, fat is fat, and carbs are carbs.  The protein content of Dog Chow is exactly the same as Canidae, and Dog Chow seems to be more consistent from batch to batch.  I got tired of spending a lot of money just to clean up puke or loose stools.  The ingredients may not be good, but my dogs love it, I can afford it, and I am no longer a purist.  If you truly want to feed your dog well, and you can afford it, go raw.  All dry food is just the same, cooked down animal product with added vitamins.

  • melissa

     Just wanted to add, that in a sensitive dog, switching should be done very very slowly. Others should take place over the course of 7-14 days.

  • melissa

    Rosecoo-

    Glad to hear that your dog is recovering. Unfortunately, many of the small breed formulas are much higher in fat than their counterparts.  For a dog who is not used to rotation and higher levels of fat, this can bring on pancreatitis and suddenly.

    Since each dog is different, there is no way for any one company to know what will adversely affect any one persons dog. Simply because it gives my dog the runs, does not mean it will someone else’s.

    With that said, I read through several of the pages of those complaints and am appalled at the number of people stating there were moths or worms in the kibble products. Based on the number of mentions, I would guess this is a common issue as of late. I am equally appalled at the number of people mentioning sick dogs, and yet they seemed to have allowed the dogs to continue on showing symptoms without immediate vet visits. Days, Weeks, and in some cases several months of vomiting before a trip to the vet.

  • BryanV21

    No matter how good a food is, there’s a good chance you’re going to see loose stool for the first couple weeks or so of switching. Don’t let that deter you, and make you go back to the “not so good” stuff. In the long run both you and your dog will be happier.

  • LabsRawesome

     Hi Nycnp, did you have a look at the above review for Dog Chow? Please don’t feed it to your dog. Check out  Whole Earth Farms, made by Merrick, it’s a 4 star food. Available at Petco for $23 bucks for a 17lb bag.  :)

  • Rosecoo
  • Nycnp

    I just started to feed my dog Dog Chow because we fed him Puppy Chow briefly as a pup and his stool was great with it. On the other foods we have tried, including prescriptions, he has very soft stool that alternates with diarrhea.  On the Puppy Chow and now Dog Chow, his stool is normal.

  • Rosecoo

    I feel it needs looking into and I am sure its more common than we think. Will be looking for more information online to see if there is any other sites that have the same complaints. 

  • BryanV21

    Wow. It sounds like you have one lucky pup, as it has an owner that really cares. It’s incredibly sad that so many others wouldn’t be so lucky.

  • Rosecoo

    Thankfully my dog was in very good health and strong and this is probably why he recovered so well. Also thanks to the medication he had too. Also the speed I got the vet involved. Years ago I would have given it a few days before taking him to the vets. The black poo was bleeding in his stomach. I have found others who have had the same with their dogs but left it too late and they died. Not their faults as they didnt know the seriousness of the situation.

  • BryanV21

    I didn’t mean to imply that the food wasn’t to blame, just that the food ITSELF probably wasn’t the issue (sorry for the all caps, but without being able to use italics or bold I wasn’t sure what to do… lol). There was probably an underlying health problem, and that food “pushed it over the edge”.

    Either way, I’m glad that your pup is doing okay now.

  • Rosecoo

    I also didnt think it was possible either but after eating the food made by Purina my dog was very sick. I thought the food was the same as the food he had been eating for the past 5 yrs without any problems. We changed to “smalldog” food thinking it was the same but in smaller pieces. Apparently the food is completely different (even though the packaging is almost identical) and that I was supposed to take a week to slowly introduce it to my dog. Nothing on the bag said that. I wouldnt wish the awful few days I went through thinking my dog was dying on anyone. Plus the vets fees aswell all because we changed his food! As long as they are within the legal standards it really doesn’t matter how many dogs get ill.

  • Alexandra

    So sorry for you losses!

  • Rosecoo

    I am so so sorry for your loss of your doggies. I know exactly what you are saying and as I have had the very same experience when I changed our dogs’ food from Bakers big dog to Bakers little dog. He is a very healthy Bichon Frise and within half an hour of eating this new food he was sick then started having black diarrhea and was very lethargic. I took him to the vets the following day but he got worse so took him back again the day after. He was given anti biotics and a paste to stop the diarrhea. It is now 2 weeks later and he is now nearly back to his old self. Is this a coincidence? I dont think so. The company, Purina have checked the food and said it is up to the standards that is legally required therefore will not take any blame for the sickness my dog suffered.

  • BryanV21

    Although I’m far from an advocate for Purina dog food, I really don’t believe it would cause a dog to die within a few days.

    I just wanted to say that so people didn’t think this site, or the people on it, were trying to spread accusations such as this.

    Like I said, I wouldn’t recommend Purina to anybody, but I would never accuse it of killing dogs within a few days of being fed.

  • LoloQ

    READ THIS: We gave our 5 month old great Pyrenees and Anatolian shepherd mixes, Hector and Suzi, Purina for the first time a few days ago. They proceeded to become very ill for several days, and we lost Suzi yesterday and Hector died this morning. There is nothing else anywhere around here that could have made them so sick. I wold not recommend this product under any circumstances.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZOHT6ZZJUDBYNJDVMFQM6KVOWU TheyCallUsMonmouth

     Hmm, Melissa. You’re on to something there! I just saw a completely different perspective! I’d rather pay the $20 more for the food rather than pay $1000′s when something happens to Marleigh. You do in fact get what you paid for. I kept her alive, however, her high activity level body lacked actual nutritious ingredients over the course of years. I just bought Blue and she ate it (like a boss). I already like it. Ol’ Roy smells like grease and vomit (how Marls smelled). Blue smells like a small whiff of whey protein and HEAVEN. We’ll see how it goes, but thank you for the economic weigh-in. :)

  • melissa

     ”They”-

    There are many things on the market that present health risks to human and animal. It does not mean that they are illegal, or going to kill the human or pet in every case.

    It costs $$ to make everything,. The question is, how much are you willing to pay? Its true that you get what you pay for. For the price of the Old Roy you have been feeding, you are not going to get quality ingredients such as would be found in Blue, or Champion or the like.

    Some better lower cost foods are Whole Earth Farms, ProPac, Nutrisource(they also have a grain free) Earthborn Holistic etc. Every on has a price point, so its difficult to say what is “reasonable” and what is not : )

  • BryanV21

    Yes, it’s called the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO), and they do allow lower quality foods for pets. But there’s also the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for human food, and they allow fast food places like Taco Bell and McDonald’s to serve people. 

    The point is, lower quality dog foods are along the same lines as fast food for humans. They are legal, and are not killer, but they are not something you’d want to exclusively feed yourself.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZOHT6ZZJUDBYNJDVMFQM6KVOWU TheyCallUsMonmouth

    Before I scroll down, I just want to know: Is there a USDA for animal feed and if 1 star foods pose as a potential health risk and have taken the lives of dogs, shouldn’t they be pulled from shelves altogether and a cheaper, healthier alternative could be created? If Blue Buffalo or Merrick were $25 lbs for 50 lbs, I would have a ball! Theres no question I would switch! But Purina is expensive as H, so switch! Dig into the internet and read up, because there are healthier foods for better prices.

  • Rosecoo

    My dog has been on Bakers dry food for 5 yrs now and we changed it to Small Dog by the same firm. He was sick after eating it then got diarrhea with blood in it then it turned to black tar like substance. We rushed him to the vets who did a blood test and gave him antibiotics. The blood test came back normal which was a relief but he was very poorly. He is still lethargic and drinking large amounts of water. Its the 4th day now and he has eaten some boiled chicken breast. He doesn’t seem to be in pain now as he was whimpering a lot and couldn’t settle. He is a Bichon Frise and as you may know they sleep a lot but I can see he isn’t happy. We have taken the food back to the shop and they have said they will get the manufacturers to analyse it and get back to us. The vet said he had over 10 dogs in on Sunday with similar symptoms. I am sure this isn’t a coincidence that he had different food and then got ill. I have had the most awful few days of wondering if I will lose my dog. Its been a nightmare. If something similar has happened to your dog don’t just leave it cos dogs could die from this.

  • Cherylsfluffies

    we fed purina products to our pomeranians for many years we naver had any problems, last december we did some research on dog food and switched to chicken soup for the dog lovers soul. within a mnth i noticed that my coats were thicker and longer and my dogs ate less. i have no problem with purina i just think they could spend alittle less on advertising and a little more on putting quality in the most purchased dog food in this country. pound for pound chicken soup and purina one cost the same. chicken soup is a good product but no one knows its out there so they dont purchase it. purina is a not so good product but everyone and their mother knows about this food so they purchase it and think they are doing what is best for the dog. maybe purina could put meat into the dog chow, and one less comercial would pay for it.

  • melissa

    Hi Scott-

    I fed Purina products for years(One and Proplan, never dog chow line) My dogs did well on them for those many years. Several years back, my dogs started getting dry coats, and I really took a look at the food and the ingredients. I was not happy that I was paying a high price for what I was getting. As I researched, I felt that my dogs would benefit from less fillers/chemicals etc and the price point was not that far off. So, I made the switch.

    If you are comfortable with the ingredients, and are okay with it, then so be it. For me and mine, I wasn’t and my dogs look and act wonderful, and I feel better feeding them a  less filler laden food with fewer chemicals. And what food did you try that was $60 for 15lbs?

  • hounddogmom12

    Scott,

    I’ll attempt to answer your questions.:)

    First off, no one is saying that Purina will make your dog sick or that your dog will not have the potential to live a long healthy life eating Purina. The review simply points out that Purina is not species appropriate and that it is made with poor quality ingredients (hence the low price). There are many people that don’t eat the healthiest and may appear healthy) though in my opinion poor eating habits catch up to everyone someday, and it’s the same for dogs).

    Second, you ask why no one is suing Purina. It was never implied that Purina foods are contaminated in any way. In order to sue a company there food would have to have some sort of contamination and cause your pet to get sick or die. There is a difference between being poor quality and actually being contaminated. For example if you went to McDonald’s and got a Big Mac, then read the ingredients list you could not sue McDonald’s because the ingredients are so horrendous. On the other hand, if you went to McDonalds, ate a Big Mac, then got sick due to contamination of the Big Mac you could sue. Follow me?

    Third, you ask why people have success stories with this food. People can have success stories with any food, as each dog is different and what works for one dog may not work for another. However, it is my opinion that most people that report having good results with a poor quality food (such as this) have not given other higher quality foods a try. Just because a dog is doing good on this doesn’t mean they couldn’t do even better on a better quality food. For example, if you’re eating donuts every morning and are perfectly healthy, don’t you think you could be even healthier and feel even better if you started eating fruit and oatmeal every morning? A lot of these dogs that do well on Purina just plain have good genetics and would have done well on anything!

    Forth, you ask why major dog shows allow Purina to sponsor them. Does this really even need an explanation? Purina has money! They’re owned by Nestle (one of the biggest corporations in the world!). Do you really think small family owned dog food companies have the cash to be sponsoring big events? No! Also I can guarantee that the majority of those dogs you see in Purina sponsored dog shows aren’t going home and eating a bowl of dog chow. But no one is going to turn down money even if it means promoting a brand you wouldn’t feed your own animal.

    Lastly, as Labs stated previously, the ingredients speak for themselves. Read the list. If you one to feed that to your beloved pet go for it.

  • LabsRawesome

    Scott, please read the detailed review above for this food. Dude, there’s no meat in this “dog food”. There really isn’t one good ingredient. I could give a detailed explanation of why it’s bad, but if you read the review above, that will tell you the whole story. Here’s what you’re feeding your dog (SHUDDER), which don’t forget, has a definite carnivorous bias.-   Whole grain corn, poultry by-product meal, corn gluten meal, animal fat preserved with mixed-tocopherols (form of vitamin E), meat and bone meal, brewers rice, soybean meal, whole grain wheat, egg and chicken flavor, animal digest, calcium phosphate, salt, calcium carbonate, potassium chloride, l-lysine monohydrochloride, choline chloride, added color (yellow 6, yellow 5, red 40, blue 2),
    zinc sulfate, vitamin E supplement, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate,
    niacin, vitamin A supplement, copper sulfate, calcium pantothenate, garlic oil,
    pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine mononitrate,
    vitamin D3 supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite

  • scott

    I have fed diamond naturals to my dogs for several years now and recently changed to dog chow due to one of my dogs being allergic to everything. I tried every dog food that money can by changing foods every three months to find one that works. Well needless to say purina dog chow worked. No more vomiting, skin iratation, and itching. People can down this food all they want but honestly with people so eagerly sueing major corps these days. Why hasn’t purina been sued? Not to mention why have people had sucess stories with this food? Why do major dog shows allow purina to sponsor them if they give a bad rep?

    If someone can anwser these questions with solid facts I will be glad to change my opinion. Until then im tired of paying 60 bucks for a 15lbs of dog food. I will pay 23 dollars for 44lbs and my dogs will be healthy and happy. Follow my videos on youtube/ my choco lab sadie 2 year tx hunting dog of the year seems to do well on purina dog chow..

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  • Korrigan

    I agree. I had a boxer (who passed away due to cancer last year) and he was fed purina puppy chow from the day we got him till he was old enough for adult food; then he was switched to purina dog chow. He never had a single issue with the food. I recently rescued an American pit bull from our local shelter and he seems to be having problems with the dog chow. He was okay with it for the first few weeks but lately he seems to be getting sick after eating it. His bowel movements are erratic and he seems to have very soft stools when he does go and he throws up occasionally (not sure its related). He scratches a bit but I cant tell if its normal dog scratching or an allergy thing.

    I have a friend who also has an American pit bull and she ran into a similar issue with the dog chow. The dogs belly was so red and sore because she would constantly lick it and scratch it. Her vet said it was most likely the corn and told her to watch the first 3 ingredients in the food. She recommended switching her food to a different type of purina. I cant remember the name of the blend but its a maroon colored bag. Since then the dog has had no issues. I think Im going to do the same.

    Does anyone know what blend of purina is in a maroon colored bag?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    S Stack,

    Based upon your IP address, I can indeed confirm you do not appear to be posting as Becki76.

    However, the message you’re referring to here was posted 2 days ago, long after the following warning was posted on the Kirkland thread:

    “This discussion is now closed. And any further comments involving this specific (S Stack) case posted here or anywhere else on this website will also be deleted.”

    Due to your disregard of that warning, your comment today has been deleted.

  • S Stack

    Thanks, Mike for keeping LabsRawesome accusation that I’m Becki 76. You can pull the IP address to verify.

  • S Stack

    That’s not me Michelle aka LabsRawesome. Someone else is having a problem. Why can’t you admit it? What is your problem?

  • LabsRawesome

    I am thinking that this was posted by S Stack too. 1. Post is dissing Diamond. 2. Similar story to S Stack’s (all dog’s sick except for 1 being fed different food) 3. S Stack posted extremely similar story on Kirkland. 4. no one asked Becki76 about chicken jerky like she claims, but I asked S Stack about it on Kirkland thread. 5. Showed up on here at same time as S Stack. Also, S Stack went on dog food chat and dissed Kirkland, posting under doglover, and Sue with same story as S Stack. Here’s the original post.                                                          Becki76
    While
    growing up my parents always fed our dogs Purina Dog Chow and they did
    wonderfully, lived long lives and had barely anything wrong with them
    medically.  When I first had dogs as an adult, I also fed Purina and
    they did great. A few years ago I decided to switch to a higher quality
    food due to those scare tactics about some food being awful, etc, and my
    dogs were switched to Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice.  Okay – so
    while Diamond is a pretty high rated food, my dogs each have diarrhea
    and/or vomiting probably once a month. The current bag they are on has
    three of them being very sick and my female shep/husky is so sick right
    now that I’m feeding her Pedialyte out of a dropper. Now everyone can
    say it’s not the food and okay – maybe not. But when I have four dogs,
    three of which each Diamond and they are the sick ones while the fourth
    who eats a completely different brand (due to grain allergies) is fine,
    it makes one wonder about the food. I also had another dog that ate
    Diamond but he died from kidney failure in November at 9-years-old.  Again,
    perhaps it’s not the Diamond food. But since I’ve never had so much
    sickness in my dogs before I switched to Diamond, one of the first
    things I did upon waking up this morning was go out and buy a bag of
    Purina.  Tried and true and I never had to worry about making sure my
    dog stays alive by feeding her Pedialyte every fifteen minutes. (And no,
    they don’t get chicken jerky treats from China since everyone keeps
    asking).
     

  • Bennett

    I feed my dogs dog chow so they say. All bad ingredients but its so much unhealthy. Food us humans eat an for the most part we do alright I know dog chow mostlikely isn’t the best but its not bad at all your dog wide live a healthy life on pretty much any dog food

  • melissa

     Becki76-

    I have fed various products made by Diamond over the years, and they simply do not agree with my dogs systems. But, if your dogs were getting vomiting/diarrhea at least once a month, why would you continue to feed it? That is not normal for a dog to have these issues at least once a month.

  • Bob K

    Becki76  -  You never mention a trip to the vet?  Are you for real?  And why did you switch to Diamond?  Why not Diamond Natural if you were concerned about your dogs food and nutrition?  Which Purina?   Your story sounds odd and of course – Its all the dog food.

  • Becki76

    While growing up my parents always fed our dogs Purina Dog Chow and they did wonderfully, lived long lives and had barely anything wrong with them medically.  When I first had dogs as an adult, I also fed Purina and they did great. A few years ago I decided to switch to a higher quality food due to those scare tactics about some food being awful, etc, and my dogs were switched to Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice.  Okay – so while Diamond is a pretty high rated food, my dogs each have diarrhea and/or vomiting probably once a month. The current bag they are on has three of them being very sick and my female shep/husky is so sick right now that I’m feeding her Pedialyte out of a dropper. Now everyone can say it’s not the food and okay – maybe not. But when I have four dogs, three of which each Diamond and they are the sick ones while the fourth who eats a completely different brand (due to grain allergies) is fine, it makes one wonder about the food. I also had another dog that ate Diamond but he died from kidney failure in November at 9-years-old.  
    Again, perhaps it’s not the Diamond food. But since I’ve never had so much sickness in my dogs before I switched to Diamond, one of the first things I did upon waking up this morning was go out and buy a bag of Purina.  Tried and true and I never had to worry about making sure my dog stays alive by feeding her Pedialyte every fifteen minutes. (And no, they don’t get chicken jerky treats from China since everyone keeps asking).

  • Tania

    I just switched to Purina Dog Chow couple weeks ago thought it never hurts to save a few bucks and I wish I never did. My pitbull started to have rashes and scabs on his body and the vet said it’s probably because of the dog food we just switched him to, he suggested us to put him back on his old diet, sometimes it can take up to 3 months before I see any reaction or changes for better or worst. 
    I am not saying it is a bad brand by any mean, but I think it is just not for every dog. 

  • Marie

    Al Dente,

    I am glad to hear you’ve had luck with your dogs on Purina Dog Chow. While nutrition is a large part of canine and feline health, genetics play a large role in that as well.

    However, I feel more comfortable feeding a higher-quality food – that way I know that any vet visits are unlikely to be nutritionally related because I have pretty much eliminated that risk. You took a gamble, and you won with your past dogs. You are fortunate, and I hope you remain so.

  • Shawna

    Al Dante ~~ they have not been able to prove euthanized cats and dogs but euthanized animals has definitely been proven.  You can find the information on the FDA’s website but I’ll link to it for you :)

    “How pentobarbital can get into dog food
    Because in addition to producing anesthesia, pentobarbital is routinely used to euthanize animals, the most likely way it could get into dog food would be in rendered animal products.
    Rendered products come from a process that converts animal tissues to feed ingredients. Pentobarbital seems to be able to survive the rendering process. If animals are euthanized with pentobarbital and subsequently rendered, pentobarbital could be present in the rendered feed ingredients.
    In order to determine if pentobarbital residues were present in animal feeds, CVM developed a sophisticated process to detect and quantify minute levels – down to 2 parts per billion of pentobarbital in dry dog food. To confirm that the methods they developed worked properly, CVM scientists used the methods to analyze dry commercial dog foods purchased from retail outlets near to their Laurel, MD, laboratories. The scientists purchased dog food as part of two surveys, one in 1998 and the second in 2000. They found some samples contained pentobarbital (see the attached tables).”  http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CVM/CVMFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/ucm129131.htm

    This doesn’t specifically say road kill but diseased or dead animals may be just as bad.  “*CVM is aware of the sale of dead, dying, disabled, or diseased (4-D) animals to salvagers for use as animal food”  http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/ComplianceManuals/CompliancePolicyGuidanceManual/ucm074712.htm

    The original FDA article I have quoted from indicate the following four ingredients were found to be a source of pentobarbitol contamination (animal fat, animal digest, meat and bone meal and beef and bone meal).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UR4PVOARTWBDBNXUXENNPOBXTI Al Dente

    I find it funny how everyone is saying dont fall for Purinas claims bla bla bla yet you are all falling for the so called Premium companies claims.. I read some people saying they can put in eutanized dogs in the dogfood, or road kill. come on people.. There has never been any documented report of this happending. Maybe 50 yrs ago but nothing in recent history. It is scare tactics that you are fallling prey too.
    My dogs all lived very long and healtny lives on dog chow. They had shiny coats, healthy eyes and never had any health problems. They all lived to at least their average life span and some even longer. They money I saved on dog food helped pay for spaying, neutering, a few emergency vet visits (not nutrition related). My vets always commented on how healthy and good my dogs looked and all fed dog chow. If you guys want to buy the hype of your premium brands go ahead, I will buy into the Purinas hype that their food is fine. The only things I do is supplement at times with some inexpensive olive oil which I used myself for all its health benefits. People are led to feel guilty if they do not buy this or that brand or if they use dog chow.. not me. 

  • Dave M

    In my opinion this food is “poison” but years ago I use to feed my dogs Iams Lamb and Rice (marginally better) and they both lived 16 – 17 years )pretty good for coonhounds). However they always got some meat from dinner etc. Now I am educated and I feed my dogs the best foods (in my opinion) short of home cooking or raw (one of my dogs will not eat raw). The marketing campaigns of these horrible foods are still effective….

  • Michelle

    Sheila, you really should read the review at the top of this page. It explains exactly what is wrong with this food. It consists of grain, low quality by products, nondescript “animal” fat, this could be anything, to include euthanized pets. “Animal” digest. Four different dyes. And Menadione,. So, what’s so great about it? Nothing, that I can find…….

  • Sheila

    Well…I guess I don’t feel that Purina is such a horrible food as all that! I used to feed Purina Dog Chow or Purina Pro Plan when I had big dogs ( labs and the occasional “walk-in” mix-breed), and for those 30 some years my dogs were very healthy, not prone to needing extra vet work, no allergies, no cancers and most lived into thier mid to late teens…which is ripe old age for large breeds in general…and yes Jonathan, I do choose to euthanize when it becomes clear that quality of life is gone due to advanced age. For the record…very very few dogs “die of old age in thier sleep.”
    I didn’t have much money at the time, and my dogs were certainly not suffering from eating Purina products. I’m afraid that I don’t consider it to be “Toxic Waste” and from reading what Jonathan has to say, I have to wonder if he is a rep for Pro Pac?
    I now have mostly Pugs and I feed Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice so that I am not feeding a lot of grains, particularily corn. Pugs tend to be a bit gassy if they eat a lot of grain…enough said! I really like Diamond Naturals quite a bit and recommend it ( not regular Diamond though, which is corn based, and gives all of my dogs bad gas, diarrhea and the scoots); it’s nearly equal in cost to Purina regular chows, it’s less $$ than Pro Plan and ONE, and since it has Beet Pulp, I also find that I have less probelms with Anal Glands becoming backed-up…a real plus (-:
    I don’t think Purina is a terrible choice for the average dog when the owner is on a budget, but there are alternatives ( Diamond and also 4Care, which are about on equal footing IMHO and also in star rating) that really won’t cost you a ton more to feed.
    BTW…that comment about breeders being people who throw out dogs that don’t meet thier standards…What!? I take serious offense to that sort of talk, as a breeder, a vet tech and a life long lover of dogs. Like many breeders I am involved in breed rescue, I am a “no shelter” breeder meaning that none of my dogs need ever end up at the pound/craiglist/humane society, since I will take any one of them back at any time and for any reason. Good breeders are good people, bad breeders are not really “breeders” at all, they are puppy millers or back yard breeders, and there is a significant difference between the good and the bad!

  • Candice

    I fed my one year old shepherd mix this food for a couple months and she was constantly vomiting. I never thought it could be the food; I thought she had a problem or she ate something bad while she was outside. However, I just switched her a couple weeks ago to Iams Simple & Natural (not to be confused with any of the other Iams blends – see http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/iams-simple-natural/) and she not only eats all of her food, but pretty much every health issue she had is gone. She no longer throws up, her coat is shinier, and she is overall just a much healthier and happier dog. PLUS, I chose that brand because it’s rated 4 stars AND is fairly priced, not like all the ridiculous priced higher end foods. Yet it’s still in the four star category. I would suggest you feed your dog anything other than Dog Chow. I have also heard fantastic things about Kirkland’s (Costco brand) and it’s also a 4 star at a great price.

  • Melissa

    the only reason i am reading these comment is because we got another dog and decided to save money by switching to a cheaper dog food.. the first week i mix the food so that way the dogs were adjusting to the new food and they did fine. the second week is here and it they are eatting this dog food straight and both dogs are eatting it and throwing it up an hour later. I guess i am looking to find out if anyone else is having these experience with their dogs eatting the dog food?

  • Tasha Brumley

    I like your thoughts, Linnea Vick.

  • Linnea Vick

    Here’s the thing. I work at a Petstore (And no, not PetSmart of PetCo). We carry nothing Purina just because of the poor quality and the Company Tricks. Don’t listen to the “Complete and Balanced”, or “U.S. Vet’s #1 Choice”. It’s complete bologna. A diet can be complete, but not balanced. But who’s to say that the diet will be completed with wholesome and quality ingredients? Nothing but sheer marketing schemes. Pay attention to the pet food labels. Look at Purina products or even Iams and Eukanuba. You’ll see the sources of protein (which is vital) is horrific. I’d like to emphasyze BY-PRODUCT directly after the meat name. It’s like feeding our kids McDonald’s. They love the taste, it’s “natural” ingredients, and it’s a big market. But look at the nutrition facts and the fact that they get hungry again an hour or two later. Would you feed your child McDonald’s every day of its life?

  • melissa

    Spencer-

    Many things can be prevented by feeding a certain way, typically only if those things would have been caused by feeding otherwise. Raw is not a cureall, or a begin all, end all either. Its not the majic bullet some would like everyone to believe.

    Genetics plays a HUGE part of many things including disease expression, longevity, size, and even temperament. The genes for diseases are funny beasts and can be dominant, recessive etc. Unfortuently, its human nature to look at the things we can control and try to change them rather than understand things are often out of our control.

    Talk with your vet about Fatty Lipomas.

  • Michelle

    Spencer, Lipomas are a genetic malady. Usually a breed specific condition.More apt to happen in certain breeds than others.Like Labradors,Golden Retrievers,and such.You are feeding your dog well,so don’t blame it on that.Talk to your vet and do some research on the subject.

  • Meagan

    Spencer-That really bothers me to read that. Lots of people talk up raw food and then that happens. NOTHING IS SAFE! Sorry about your dog. :(

  • Mike P

    Hmm , maybe a chink in the raw food armour ?? My last dog got fat sacks but I also fed alot of table crap ..not anymore though with my new dog

  • http://Cohentcsn@cox.net Spencer

    My dog eats nothing but raw, both homemade and commercial and developed “fat sacks”, needless to say, am not happy about it, neighbors all feed purina or pedigree crap and they’re dogs have no lipomas, although they do itch occasionally. I don’t know what to think anymore, but won’t start feeding corn-based f oods.

  • Jonathan

    A point taken, Doc. I apologize from any offense.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Jonathan… Although your usual advice to our many visitors can be exceptionally helpful, your recent comment to Antonio suggesting breeders “throw out dogs that are not up to their standards” or that they are “people who do not truly care about the animal” is unfair and inappropriate.

    I have had the personal pleasure of knowing many breeders in my life (including Claudia, my nurse for over 25 years). And I can assure you, nearly all have been kind, loving and knowledgeable professionals.

    I know of no group within my own circle of friends that has spent more time rescuing and placing homeless dogs… including our own “mix”, Bailey and my son’s boxer… Abby, than these dog experts.

    Bailey and Abby were each homeless when they were first introduced to our two families by caring breeders. And for that, we are most thankful.

    Although there will always be “bad apples” in every profession (including medicine), it’s unfair to condemn an entire group for the misguided actions of the minority.

  • Antonio

    Mike P,

    Why would I be jealous about Jonathan’s information when I have access to the same information online? That would be a bit childish don’t you think? I simply like to measure all angles of a conversation and give readers the opportunity to hear both sides of the situation instead of just riding the band wagon and leaving topics one sided. But just a little back ground, I did take 2 years of nutritional study while obtaining my B.S. back in college, but I didn’t major in that area, it was purely done as elective course study work. And Melissa I agree with a lot you posted above, many breeders and people in the working dog community simply wants a feed that works, generally cost is not the big factor as long as brand “x” works as advertised.

  • Melissa

    Jonathan-

    Unless you are a breeder and involved in the show circuit, you have no information to make such comments regarding breeders.It would appear that in your limited exposure, you are coming in contact with mills/bybs and “disreputable” ones. Making such a blanket statement about breeders is, imo no more valid than if I started spouting off that its in “petsupply stores” best interest to push more expensive brands of foods for bigger revenue.

    True reputable breeders do not “throw away” their dogs or the offspring produced-and most ACTIVELY rescue in our “given” breed of choice.

    Unfortunetly, there are often “bonuses” for a breeder to feed one food over another, and therefore, they do. However, there is no reputable or show breeder that is going to feed a food that the dog does not do well on in the “here and now” And, as a person heavily involved in all aspects of the canine world, there is no denying that the vast majority of dogs do appear to do well on foods such as Proplan, Iams and Eukanuba at least in the “here and now”sense which is what most owners limit their field of vision to.

    While the majority of people here understand that the concepts of dogfood and nutrition have changed over the years, there is no discounting the fact that before it did, and before so many brands came upon the market, dogs either ate foods such as Dog Chow or table scraps and lived very long healthy lives. When someone says “my dog ate Proplan(or pick a brand!) and lived to be x yrs old” certain people want to jump in and say “But could he/she have lived to be x if NOT fed that food”. While in some people’s minds there may appear to be a “direct” cause and effect, we also know better regarding that. There are many many factors beyond food and genetics that are different today then yesterday-vaccinations, environmental pollution etc are just two. Such a question can be used to further any agenda the writer has-whether getting someone to feed a certain quality of dog food to pushing for a household that only cleans things with vinegar.

    Melissa

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Mike P… As Antonio so astutely observed yesterday, ours is a website devoted to dogs. And because we love our dogs as much as we do, it’s easy to get caught up in the emotional questions and personal opinions we all have about these wonderful creatures.

    What’s more, as we’ve seen here recently, these debates can be about controversial subjects. For example, are dogs carnivores… or omnivores? Is corn good for a dog… or bad? Are grain free dog foods a dietary improvement… or are they just another profit-driven contrivance of the pet food industry designed to help us part with more of our hard-earned money?

    And sometimes we even get a little carried away by expressing our personal feelings regarding critical issues about dogs… yet have little to do with the topic of food.

    As I myself learned yesterday (when I inappropriately criticized one of our top contributors), it’s easy to forget that blogs (like ours) are here for the purpose of debating these important issues. And when debating them, each of us must be prepared to find some rather notable (and emotional) differences.

    Debate can be healthy. It can help answer questions and resolve problems. And our comments can contribute to our collective understanding of an important topic… unless those comments become cruel and degenerate into name-calling, character assassination and hurtful narrative.

    And so far (even though they sometimes ineptly wander away from the subject of food), the debate you see here between Antonio and Jonathan has for the most part been healthy.

  • Mike P

    Antonio, I hear stories of old men that smoke and drank booze every day and lived to 90 . I suppose there are dogs that can live long on junk dog food . Must be a gene thing . I think most of us just want to give our body and our dogs body a chance with eating and living right . As for Jonathan , he is very helpful and informative. Sometimes in your post you seem a little jealous of him . This place is really turning confratational ..

  • Jonathan

    Antonio, these are also people that “throw out” dogs that are not up to their “standards”. I don’t find many breeders to be people that truly care about the animal… they more like how the animal makes them feel. If these breeders loved dogs so much, why aren’t they rescuing dogs that are being euthanized (and potentially turned into the fat that’s in their Purina products) instead of adding more dogs to the problem? These people want a food that they can keep their dogs “on” as if it were some nameless pharmaceutical. I sure wouldn’t want to eat the same “nutrient pellet” day in and day out.

    And, no, I am not “trained” in pet nutrition. I work in a pet supply store and research pet nutrition on my own time.

  • Antonio

    Oh I almost forgot to add, Jonathan, I do agree I think the ingredients in most Purina Products do look horrible, I just hate the fact that most of the time their products out perform dog food that I’ve paid upwards of $70 a bag for.

  • Antonio

    I mean it’s kind of like Purina Pro Plan having dog show bragging rights that something like 92 out of the top 100 AKC show dogs use Pro Plan or something to that affect, and these are obviously people that understand a lot about dogs, their nutrition, and health. So one would have to assume if a food like Pro Plan was total garbage then so many top competitors of the elite dog shows wouldn’t be feeding it to their dogs with the type of results they are having.

  • Antonio

    Jonathan, I wish I did have a panoramic view on most things, but unfortunately I’m very detailed and notice all things of ALL companies. Well obviously I’ve forgiven Diamond dog food my pug is currently eating their TOTW product (which I might take him off due to recent bouts of loose stools and diarrhea), but I understand accidents do happen. Jonathan, this is not a offensively asked question but do you have any certification in the pet food industry or just general novice like most of us on the site? I’m curious to know b/c you do make good judgement calls about a lot of things and I know that most Universities now days w/ agriculture science studies will allow small animal nutrition elective courses so I was curious that’s all. I’m skeptical about a lot of things in life and basically I like a food that works, but again I fed Dog Chow back before 2003 and again didn’t have any noticeable problems at the time, I understand the science behind human/animal nutrition has changed, but my cousin dog living healthy years on garbage dog food isn’t isolated, many pet owners are getting longevitiy w/ excellent health out of some of the foods that many consider inferior. I just say to each their own and people has to find what works best for their pet and their budget.

  • Jonathan

    Isolated tragedies, Antonio. If some one dies I a car accident even though he was wearing his seat belt… should we all stop wearing them? If one idiot buys a gun and kills his wife should the rest of us not be allowed to own one for defense? If some one dies of lung cancer who had never smoked should we all just start smoking?

    I like you, Antonio, but I fear you are missing a bigger picture.

  • Antonio

    I haven’t used Dog Chow since I was younger, but like the others posting I didn’t have problem with my dogs at that time (American Pit Bull Terriers). I actually switched them over to what was suppose to be Premium Dog Food at the time (Diamond) and actually lost 2 of my 3 beloved dogs to the major recall Diamond had in 2005. The basic reason I switched from Purina Dog Chow to Diamond back in 2003 was because it was suppose to be better food at a lower cost, turned out it cost me 2 great companions, while my cousin has a Pit Bull that’s currently 9 from the same litter as one of my dogs that died back then and his Pit bull has always eating Pedigree go figure and the dog outlived my own who were supposedly eating better at the time.

  • Jonathan

    GRW, I don’t believe for a second that your dogs did well BECAUSE of Purina. I think, if you are being truthful, they did well IN SPITE OF Purina. There is nothing good about cereal grain by-products and generic animal fat. Please read more about nutrition before staking claim as an expert just because you had a few otherwise very well cared for dogs live for a good time on Purina.

  • Bob K

    GRW – I am surprised you are even on a website like this. I suspect the science might be a little deep for your comprehension. Food is only one component of a dogs health. Whats wrong with a healthier food that is 3 or 4 stars for the same price? You might want to try a product such ad Kirklands that is at Costco or Diamond Naturals that you can find at Menards, TCS and many other places. When I read many of the labels on the 1 star dog foods the ingredients remind me of pig or goat feed, not something I would want to feed my dog.

  • G.R.W.

    I have been feeding my dogs Purina dog chow for close to 30 years. I have the same experience as C.J. My dogs are extremely healthy, and have all lived well past the expected life span. My vet has said many times, that if all of his patients were as healthy as my dogs, he would go out of business. People put Purina down, but I have to look at the health of my dogs to know that it is a good product. Whenever I have tried other foods, my dogs start having diarrhea. I go past to Purina, and problem solved. Purina will always get my vote. Just for the record Jonathan, every one of my dogs has died of old age. Not one of them ever had a single “fatty sack” on their body. My dogs are therapy dogs, and most people can’t believe how old they really are because they look so good. As for the monetary gains, Purina isn’t the one charging 30 and 40 dollars a bag.

  • Jonathan

    Did all your dogs die of old age in their sleep after living for 15 or 16 years? Or did you have to put them down at 12 because they hobbled around and had “fatty sacks” all over their bodies and they couldn’t get up off the floor any more?

    No, no, I’m sure your Dog Chow dogs were all pictures of health.

    Please explain to me how after reading what the what trash the ingredients in this “food” is, that not only do you not revolt in shock to what you have been feeding your dogs, but you actual still sit there at your computer and take the time to defend it?

    I guess we should just let any corporation poison us for their own monetary gains, huh? It’s the corporation’s constitutional rights, because the corporation is an individual, right?

    Wake up.

  • regan

    I have fed purina dog chow for 30 years and I haven’t had any problems

  • Cathy

    Last night, I got a tip from the guy behind the meat counter at my local food market. He said that the SweetBay supermarket he worked at never trashed any meat scraps and that all of it was given to pig farmers or pet owners, no charge. (FREE)
    At my market, I purchased a pound of organic beef tenderloin for my family (for many meals prepared with alot of veges). I requested the trimmed scraps for my dog. I was given almost a pound of organic tenderloin meat trimmings FREE, which was about half meat and half fat. At this same market I also purchase chicken necks for $1 per pound. My dog is the beneficiary of my diligence.

  • Cathy

    Gary, I realize there isn’t much sense of ‘community’ in our society anymore, but some butchers and farmers are happy to share their excess with people in situations like yours. You could feed real food mixed with some cheap kibble.
    I live in a busy city in one of the most densely populated counties in the nation. Yet, I have found ways and places to get real food for my big dog; yes, food that would have been trashed or composted simply because it was considered excess or waste; food that isn’t ‘bad’. it’s just not retail sale quality. Butchers always have scrap meat. And farms always have excess veges/fruit. A few requests to the right people could be a super healthy lifeline for your 20 dogs. You’re likely to have more luck with small independent store/farm owners. Big corporations are hesitant to help out in this way because of liability reasons.

  • Antonio

    Gary, isn’t there a local shelter than can help you adopt out some of the dogs. And let me say i’m not passing judgement on your good efforts. But I’ve been watching that show animal hoarders lately and I have to say some of the situations are just horrible, while many times we think we are doing the right thing we are actually harming the animals, I’m sure that’s not the case in your situation. But how about try to adopt some of the animals into good homes that can give them the proper care they need, and check w/ your local animal shelter to see if they can help adopt out some of the animals as well.

  • Jonathan

    Hey, Gary, it is a great thing that you do. Have you looked at Sportmix? If you can find it, it’s a 2-star food because it doesn’t use any artificial preservatives or flavors. And it’s $14.99 for 40 pounds… that’s actually cheaper than Dog Chow!

    Oh, and Kirkland is a 4-star food for about the same price as Dog Chow, if you have a Costco you can shop at. And 4health is in that price range at Tractor Supply, another 4-star food.

    Good luck and keep up your important work!

  • Melissa

    Gary-

    You do have choices. How about forming a not for profit animal rescue? You then can get donations, thereby improving the “quality of care” that you can provide. I am assuming of course that these dogs are being rescued, vetted, rehabbed and ADOPTED into homes, not being ‘warehoused’

    In dog nutrition, I think its important to understand that any food is better than NO FOOD…A 2 star better than a 1 and so forth. But, each owner has limitations and can only provide what their budget allows. I don;t think anyone here attempts to make owners who are operating within their means feel bad, but rather suggests and educates owners who can do differently, to consider doing so.

    And, if these rescues are being adopted out, then they are not eating this level food all their lives-just the short term until permanent homes can be gotten. No harm, no foul in my book.

  • Mike P

    Maybe some local business would allow you to put coffee cans out for donations . The local high school kids may want to help with maybe car washes or go door to door for donations . You could talk to a walmart manager to see if he would sell broken bags of dog food at a really low price . They do that here . The world is such a better place with people like you. I’m sure you probably thought of these things . Boxer rescue enlist vets who donate services . Good luck

  • Gary

    I care for over 20 abused ,unwanted,neglected Dogs EVERYDAY out of MY own Pocket…I Joined Pro Club as a way to save food expense with Dog Chow
    I have been doing thid for over 30 years and have beeb un-able to find a “Better Way”
    I am i minute away fron my next medical emergency with these animals,and honestly have become so frustrated with the “Animal care Community”
    Vets over charge,food companys raise prices,the ONE thing that does not change is my Dogs are warm and cared for while I have gone with out.
    I just need a way to make there life better with QUALITY CARE,which ,in turn approves my piece of Mind

  • Cathy

    Yes Jonathan – Similar to pet food, it’s unfortunate our human health has suffered with the decline in quality of our human food over the past half century. It is almost a part-time job to find non-toxic, nutrient-dense food. And then dealing with the arguments from family, neighbors, friends, co-workers who perceive us as annoying, difficult, obsessed… pick-your-bad-name…… just because I don’t want to ingest the poison food they offer at social gatherings.

  • Cathy

    About DIRTY FOOD (see previous comments) – - for a dog, dirty food doesn’t mean bad food. Bad food means ingredients not biologically appropriate for the animal, or an inferior quality of an ingredient (euthanized animal meat, for example), etc.
    Dogs love superior quality dirty food….. My dog eats most meals out of his clean stainless steel bowl. Except when we plop a meaty bone or chicken carcass in the bowl, which he promptly carries away and drops into dirt, then licks it and chomps it, dirt and all. He also occasionally jumps onto our compost pile and grabs an eggshell or some discarded leafy greens. If I give him a Big Fresh Bone, he promptly buries it and waits a week or two to dig it up and munch on it. YUM! We don’t use any chemicals in our yard, so our dirt is not toxic. It is similar to dirt in the wild.

  • Jonathan

    Yes, Cathy, very true. I am sadly aware of how poorly I treat my body 50% of the time, hence my being overweight. But at least I KNOW it’s the crap I put in my body.

    Our dogs lacks the ability to make eating decisions, so it is easy to ensure, for the most part, that they get nutritious, healthy meals every day. (except when they jump up on the table and eat an ENTIRE box of chocolates still wrapped and boxed as a Christmas present! GRRR)

    What I’m saying is it’s easier to make my dog eat healthfully than to make myself do so. LOL

  • Cathy

    I agree with Jonathan 100%! Most people and pets can eat bad food for a short period with no noticeable problem. Most detrimental effects don’t appear for a long time.
    With humans, it will often be decades before the McD, BK, KFC, Coke/Pepsi habits show negative impact in our human body. Most humans ignore the minor warning signs of poor nutrition – headache, weight gain, fatigue. Major warning signs manifest much later – like cancer, heart disease, diabetes. People will then argue that ‘it can’t be the food I eat that caused these diseases because I’ve been eating these same foods for decades with no real problem’.
    If an animal consistently eats poor quality food, the chances of long-term health problems increase. There are few exceptions to this law of nature.

  • Jonathan

    John, did you read the description (facts) of what the ingredients really are in this food?

    Just because dogs that spend a limited time eating this food in your kennel all seem to be healthy, doesn’t make this a good food.

    Ingredients, and the quantity of each ingredient, is what makes a food good or bad.

    This is a bad food.

    Period.

  • John

    My wife and I have used Purina Dog Chow for the last 8 years in our kennel operation. The dog food is better than most people think. It has done our dogs well, and no matter what analysis says, it is a good dog food. Our dogs get inspected three times a year, and every time, the inspectors say we have the best kennel operation they have seen. Our dogs are healthy, and they never seem to get sick. By the way, do we humans really eat healthy.

  • Jonathan

    *correction… It doesn’t contain artificial preservatives. Just artificial Vitamin k, which, I may add, is just as bad.

  • Jonathan

    It is when those “things humans won’t eat” includes grains and grain by-products that are potential allergens, are hard for a carnivore to digest, and are possibly contaminated wit floor sweepings (think metal shavings, rat droppings, etc.). And when you factor in the use of artificial colors and preservatives, then yes. It is a big deal. I’d rather my dog ate road kill than his food. This food is garbage BECUASE it doesn’t contain enough dead animal product. And while the dead animal product that is in it is low quality, it’s still, sadly, the best part, nutrition-wise, of this food. If it were all nasty dead animal bits, I’d be inclined to think more highly of it.

  • fallnfeather

    All I have to say is this-THEY EAT and ROLL ON DEAD THINGS THEY FIND OUTSIDE AND MOST SEEM TO THOROUGHLY ENJOY SPENDING A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME LICKING THEIR REAR ENDS-so,in closing,is it that big of a deal that there are things in the food that humans won’t eat?

  • Jonathan

    Hey Kay nine… Every one knows dogs are gross and will eat anything. The problem with foods like this is that dogs typically die early eating this garbage. The nutrient profile is not fit for a carnivore. Much of the “protein” listed on the GA comes not from animals, but from plants that dogs can’t biologically use. They put artificial color in this food, which is pointless because dogs don’t care what color their food is. this food contains all three of the most common dog food allergens. It also contains a potential liver destroyer (synthetic vit. k), and various other cancer causing trash that slips in the rendering plants that make the meat meal. things like the plastic wrap on spoiled grocery store meat. Or the flea collars still on the necks of dead dogs and cats. Yes, dogs will eat almost anything. But in nature, all they eat is the entire dead animal. with processed kibble, even a great one, they are still getting an unbalanced meal compared to what they would eat in the wild.

    Also, look at the reviews for Pro Pac which is a brilliantly better food for only a few bucks more. Or hell, even Sportmix. What makes Sportmix one star better than this national brand is that it doesn’t contain artificial color, preservatives, synthetic k, or animal fat. and it’s only $14.99 for a 40lb bag. Is that not cheap enough for you?

  • Kay Nine

    Unfit for human consumption: Since when did humans start eating bones & bone marrow. Ugh… scare tactics. Anyway, I digress.

    Humans make too much drama over anything. I mean, come on, they are dogs.

    Dogs dig thru trash cans to get to the chicken bones from the Humans’ gorge from KFC 3 nights ago. They eat raw eggs and don’t get salmonella. Beef blood and fat gets gobbled up too with out any concern over E-Coli.

    Dogs roll in the dirt & lick their balls. They are not going to know the difference in a $10 bag of food and a $60 bag of food.

    If Pup’s not suffering… then the food they are eating is okay.

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  • victoria

    For those who are budget conscious there are plenty of foods that wont break the bank, if you have Costco membership, Kirkland brand is very good quality and only $22 for 40 lbs.

    Other inexpensive brands include, Whole Earth Farms, Healthwise, Premium Edge, Diamond Naturals, Chicken Soup for dog lovers soul and 4Health(Tractor supply store). Check the manufacturers site for store locations, since most of these are sold at feed stores, around $35 for 30-35 lbs.

  • Jonathan

    I have a great idea… like a Micheal Moore or Morgan Spurlock corporate assault kinda deal. We create a happy looking corporate marketing type star burst sticker that says in flashy font and colours “NOW contains 15% more EUTHANISED PETS!” and go around to grocery stores and slap them on all the bags of crap like this. Who’s with me??? :-D

  • jonathan

    there is no reason to switch to this bag ‘o’ recycled industrial waste as a way of saving money. you will lose that “savings” in the long run with vet bills and a sad, unhealthy doggy that may die years before he should have. try Pro Pac or Nutro Max. they are lower priced alternatives that don’t have nearly the number or red flag items as this trash does. Pro Pac can be had for around $25.99 a 33 pound bag. that’s only a few bucks more than Dog Chow, but a much better product. even a big dog usually only eats one bag of food a month. that’s less than a buck a day. Isn’t your pup worth .86 cents a day? You spend more than that on a soda or a cup of coffee.

  • Patrick

    Just be careful and watch your dog carefully. I’m all for saving money, but sometimes you have to use common sense. We switched to this stuff….Because of the price, and our Boxador began scratching and licking like crazy. She even chewed some of her hair off on her tail. She also started to throw up on occasion, something she had never done before. We switched to American Natural Premium – Sensitive Care (4 Star), and the problems went away immediately. If you use or switch to this stuff, please watch your beloved pooch VERY closely.

  • http://dogs-hope.petfinder.org Judith Van Noate

    I have a rescue for pointers and German Shorthaired Pointers. I feed more than thirty dogs and have been doing so for years. Most of them eat Purina Dog Chow as their main food and do extremely well. They get some canned food (made by Purina or Pedigree) mixed in. They seem to love the food. We used Pedigree until the formula changed (2009) – and two dogs developed bald patches on their sides. A few weeks on Purina, and their coats recovered completely. I do have a dog who can’t eat any type of dry food, and I try to give dogs that are debilitated (just in from shelters in poor condition) better quality foods. On the whole I think Purina Dog Chow is an excellent choice for any one on a budget. Most dogs will do just fine.

  • Amanda

    I live on a tight budget myself, so I took it upon myself to learn what I could feed my dogs without compromising their health. I learned to supplement their dry food (Wysong Epigen) with fruits, vegetables, plain yogurt, cheese, and beef very lightly cooked (only for my benefit). It stretches out that 17 dollar bag of food, and my dogs are very healthy. I wish you the best of luck.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi C.J…. It’s hard to argue with your long successful history and personal experience feeding Purina Dog Chow. Remember, one food might be a one star product to us but it could still be a solid “five” to your dogs. Thanks for sharing your comment.

  • C.J. Kölb

    I have a 7 year old Irish Wolfhound, a 13 year old Treeing Walker Coonhound, and a 13 year old Beagle.
    I know everyone pooh-poohs Purina Dog Chow. I have to say throughout 40 years of having dogs (and thus trying quite a few different foods), I’ve never had a dog that didn’t like it. More importantly, they all thrived on it, remained healthy, and lived well past expected lifespans. Everytime I have let myself be convinced that this or that food would be better, I’ve gone back to Dog Chow. I do appreciate your unbiased treatment in your reviews. I have read many of them.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Vicki… I noticed this same comment on the Purina Pro Plan (Dry) review so I responded to your concerns there.

  • vicki

    I thought I was doing good by feeding my dog purina….now I am more confused than ever about what to feed her. The Pro Plan is expensive enough as it is…..and with today’s economy don’t know that I could go (afford) much more. I do want what is best for her (she is my baby) but my husband is not a dog lover (we do not agree how much her food should cost) and I am blessed just to have her. So with that said how do I do her justice….she has never been sick or suffered any ill affects of the pro plan but after reading all your findings……what do I do????