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  • in reply to: Thoughts on Vegan dogs #78117 Report Abuse
    L R
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    Everyone love’s to point to the starch study, but I don’t think it explains anything that wasn’t already known.
    http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/research-proves-it-dogs-thrive-on-a-starch-rich-diet/

    And I tend to agree that when the coefficient of fermentation for a dog is low, as it is for cats, that plus jaw, teeth, digestive system, all really point to the dog being a carnivore.
    http://www.vetstreet.com/our-pet-experts/are-dogs-carnivores-heres-what-new-research-says

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    L R
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    For what it’s worth, as a possible future consumer of BRB, I was curious about BRB company, looked up some info, and wrote Steve Lea (the owner) to ask him some questions. He didn’t answer anything regarding the two companies Lea-way Farms Inc., and BRB. He said “no 3D/4D” in my email reply below and on an email someone else got back he said “no 3D/4D material”, why he wasn’t more clear/specific and just state “no 3D/4D meat”, I’m not sure, I don’t know if that means anything like he was sort of dodging the question or not. I also wrote to Susan Thixton, author of “The Truth about Pet Food” blog to see if she had any info on BRB. This is the info I found and received from them.

    My email to Steve. . .
    “Hi Steve, Iā€™m sure you get this a lot but I would really appreciate if you could answer a few questions I had, and clear up some confusion.

    I know that you own BRB as well as Lea way Inc., Iā€™ve read from Iredell county commissioner minutes on the Iredell county government website archives that Lea Way Inc., is in the business of animal removal from local area farms and recycles it for pet food for Grey hound racing tracks in FL. At least you were as of May 2006.
    http://www.co.iredell.nc.us/Departments/Planning/minutes/April2006pbminutes.pdf
    Page 6
    ā€Lea-Way Company picks up deceased cattle from area farms and provides a means for sanitary disposal; the existing plant processes useable materials into pet food productsā€

    http://www.co.iredell.nc.us/Commissioners/minutes/Regular/May_9_2006_regular_minutes.pdf
    Page 4 notes from that meeting stated. . .
    ā€Lea said since 1979, his company had helped to recycle dead animals, at no cost to the county or state.ā€ ā€œCommissioner Robertson asked about the process — muscle tissue removed from the carcass. Lea said this was correct, and the tissue was boxed, frozen, labeled, and shipped to the Greyhound Tracks in Florida as pet food.ā€

    Are the Iredell county documents correct in their information or were they at the time they were written correct? Are BRB and Lea Way Inc. connected in any other way besides sharing a mailing address? Is Lea way Inc. still in the practice of collecting downed animals and recycling them for petfood products for greyhound racing? If not, what happens to all the muscle meat you process from the downed animals you pick up, if itā€™s not going into pet food products? Are you still greyhound breeding for racing?

    If the information is correct, Iā€™m curious why one company produces pet products/food from picked up dead animals, and why your other company BRB would have a different meat quality standard?

    I am interested in trying your products and I would really appreciate some information, and Iā€™m hoping you reply back and answer my questions directly and honestly.”

    Steve Lea’s email Reply. . .
    “I will try to give you a short direct answer?
    This was an attempt by me 8 years ago to take material that is unusable for ANYTHING, and turn them into renewable fuels.
    I see that now you have dug up the commissioners Minutes as well.
    If you read them you will see it was tabled and then withdrawn,
    None of this happened then and is not happening now, and has NOTHING to do with BRB, or the products in BRB…
    There is no 3-4D in Any of our products..
    The internet is full of old outdated information that is no longer the case.
    Some people have spent allot of time digging up this old outdated information and attempting to link it to BRB
    to attempt to destroy it
    WHY????????
    I have answered these questions hundred’s of times only to find my words turned around and misrepresented on chat sites
    I WILL NO LONGER ADDRESS THIS ISSUE!!!!
    If you choose to believe these internet bullies and not feed BRB we wish you and your pets the best.
    If you choose to believe your own eyes and your pets health and feed BRB we thank you for your business and support
    Steve”

    Susan Thixton’s email reply when asked about any information she might have about BRB as a company…
    “A year or two ago – I had a horse rescue volunteer reach out to me about this company. She provided me with the USDA website link that gives the owner of Blue Ridge Beef (but in the name of another company) a license to be a dead animal hauler. Also I was told – same ‘other’ company offers inexpensive euthanisia services for horses. I was told he comes to the farm and shoots the horse and then removes the body. I reported this to the Georgia Department of Agriculture, Florida Department of Agriculture – and to my knowledge they did nothing with the information I provided them. To me, it is a conflict of interest for a raw meat pet food company to also have a license to haul dead animals. But…they don’t ask me. I suggest – if you are not completely comfortable with the company – listen to your gut.
    Susan”

    When looking for info, I did find a 2013 forum post in a horse forum that referenced using Lea way farms in Statesville, NC to humanely euthanize and dispose of their horse. So it may be that as of 2013 Lea way farms was still collecting/disposing downed animals.
    http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?393457-Spin-Off-on-Cabelas-amp-Rendering-Plants

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