[Kristen L]

In addition, starch/sugar is not good for dogs regardless, and MANY foods are 50% or more sugar! It’s true. To determine the amount of sugar you add the protein, moisture, fat, and ash (if not listed use 8%), then subtract from 100. That number is the percent of carbohydrates in the food. Dogs do not need their diet to be 50%. It’s not natural.

• This reply was modified 8 years ago by Kristen L.

[Kristen L]

We’ll have to agree to disagree 🙂 Although, the part about the immune system I know is true enough. It takes the perfect storm I believe. But once the yeast becomes out of control, the sugar in foods definitely feeds it making it worse.

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[Kristen L]

Just an idea – Everything I read tells you that yeast is caused by sugar and starch turns into sugar. And what foods are high in starch? Potatoes! Try taking her off starchy foods. They have to put some starch/carbs in dry food to keep it together, but potatoes are high starch. Sweet potatoes are better than white, but still high. Take her off potatoes for starters, and Google the glycemic index for dogs foods. The chart will list from high to low. Peas are low as is tapioca. Raw, of course, is best. You can eliminate all sugar that way. Also, if you haven’t tried it already (I’ve read that vets prescribe it), order some T8 keto solution on Amazon. It worked amazing for my boy and his chronic yeast infections. It dries it all up and goes all the way down inside. His ears have been good for months. NO POTATOES.

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[Kristen L]

Crazy4cats is correct. That makes sense for what happened with my girl. The meds killed the good bacteria. Good news is, they recover, but don’t do another treatment unless you know for certain your dog needs it. They don’t tell you how bad it is for them (the metronidazole). The panacur on amazon is safe though. Do that instead if needed. Victor is good food.

[Kristen L]

Jan, 8 times a day loose stool is not normal, regardless of what they say. Something is going on. I was in your exact situation as I mentioned earlier. I kept going to the vet, but after 2-3 months, she was back to normal after the giarDia treatment. I don’t know what was going on, but she just got better. Luckily, it was just soft stool. She didn’t act sick at all. How long has your pup had loose stools AFTER her treatment? I’ve learned not to put too much confidence in the vets. Try a different limited ingredient, high quality, no grain food. It may not make a difference until the gut settles, but it COULD be the food isn’t helping.

[Kristen L]

Jan, I had the same issue with my young golden retriever. She had giardia, was treated, and I also bought the panacur online at amazon for two additional treatments. It’s been awhile now so I don’t recall exact timeline, but I know she actually started having diarrhea AFTER the treatments. She had it for 2-3 months. I took her to the vet several times because I thought it was very odd. Good news is, it just eventually went back to normal on it’s own, so I do think the treatment does something. I also switched her food a few times because I was always switching my other Goldens due to his allergies, and I would just put her on whatever he was on, and I also thought it was the food after the vet said take her off lamb.. She did get a little better when I took her off it, but not fully. Both my dogs get diarrhea on lamb. It is very rich. And no, there was no correlation with the diarrhea and switching foods. I still switch and she has firm poops on the right food. I also agree that royal canin is junk! She actually has diarrhea right now, but I switched her to Kirkland puppy food last week. It has 4.5 stars, but I think Kirkland is junk. I was in a pinch though when I got it. I had tried every food out there because of my allergy dog. If they don’t have good poops, it’s usually the food, except in our case with the giardia, I think it is the treatment for the giardia that caused it. I like Zignature, Acana (the chicken is cheapest), TOTW is good too (I started both mine on that as pups), but I don’t believe it is the highest rated food. Nutrisca is good. It’s on Chewys. Good luck, I think it will pass with time. Ps. The panacur on amazon is very safe, the metronidazole is not. People buy the panacur as a preventative maintenance thing for their animals.

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[Kristen L]

Kathy, I have tried absolutely everything, and I mean that, and even though my dog still has at least a couple symptoms on everything, I can tell you ones I liked. My dog just finished the nutrisca salmon, and I do like that one, but he still chews his paws like crazy and seems itchy all over. I do think the zignature is a high quality food. I have the salmon on it’s way now from chewys. But I am going to try something different because he is still really itchy on the Nutrisca. I have no idea if it’s the salmon or chickpeas, or what, but I think it’s a good food nonethless. We’ve tried all flavors. I judge it based on my dog’s poop and if they seem super excited to eat, and my research on this website. I try to stick with the low glycerin foods, but honestly, I’ve run out of foods to try. I liked Earthborn, Zignature, Nutrisca, and Acana. Good luck.

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[Kristen L]

Hi. Someone may have touched on what I’m going to say but I didn’t read. My dogs both had giarDia and had almost NO symptoms. Poop was fine, energy, appetite all normal. My other dog that didn’t get tested, did have slimy poop which I read about, but wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t read it. I did three OTC panacura from Amazon. Cheaper! Safe. And the metroziadol once. They say it can be hard to get rid of but I think my dogs eventually just were cured of it. But again, no symptoms, but still had it. Keep giving panacure. I was treating 115 lbs of dogs, you have 14, so it should cost you $8. Good luck.

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[Kristen L]

I agree to first get medical check. If all is well, try the honest kitchen. It’s dehydrated base mix. You just wet it and you get all your minerals and vitamins that they need, then add your own protein. You don’t have to worry about missing anything. And they have provide the feeding guidelines.

[Kristen L]

Pitluve, I think both is true about the yeast. At least that is what I have read coming from Vet sources. Combine that with all the reviews I have read where dogs have improved greatly or completely on low-glycemic foods, such as Nutrisca or Zignature. But, I have definitely made a mental note to look into hydrolyzed proteins in the past and I think I did not endup going that route because I could not find much and/or price, but I will for sure be trying it in the near future. I know my dog will have that yeasty smell, but then there are times when he doesn’t but still has the ear issues, ie, scratching, inflammation, throw a rash in there and I don’t think it is JUST yeast. So I do need to determine what other ingredients for certain that he can’t handle. A journal would be helpful, I am just awful at keeping records. I did just order Nutrisca Salmon and chickpea. If it doesn’t work I can add salmon to the list…or chickpeas, or well, who knows! Next will be the hydrolyzed protein. Thank you for your advice!

[Kristen L]

InkedAMrie, No produce? So, no veggies or fruit?

[Kristen L]

Amy W, thanks for the tips. I wonder if there is anything I can give him to get his system calm again for the short term and then try to regroup.

[Kristen L]

Susan, thank you for the info. Interesting. I have DE, but my boy doesn’t really itch his body, just his ears for the most part. There have been times that they both (my younger golden too) seemed to scratch more than normal, but not too much, and I would chalk it up to whatever food they were on at the time or maybe a flea? They both seem good now. The paw chewing and smell from the ears and ear infections seem to be yeast (at least the smell is very telling of yeast, anyway) related so I think I should go in that direction and I will give them a call. Is their food available at the online retailers? I will look it up 🙂

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