So…bag of Acana bought today is from the new Kentucky plant…anyone else?++

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  • #97073 Report Abuse

    Jenn H
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    Re: Vaccinations
    Years ago when my dog was going through treatments for cancer the vet suggested we do titers instead of straight up vaccinating for everything since he had a compromised immune system.
    Ever since once then we have been doing titers and giving only the necessary vaccinations.
    I also spread out vaccinations. I don’t give them combo shots when possible (there’s 1 that’s unavoidable). This way if there is a reaction we’ll know what caused it.

    I’m not an anti-vaxxer, but I am anti- overvaccinating.

    Re: Acana
    It is very disappointing that the high quality of their products has gone down the drain. It was the best food for my big guy and I didn’t have to feed him a ton of it. Now he’s getting hot spots. I’ve tried every formula and the fish has been causing him the most trouble. I thought the oils may have helped. I would only buy the small bags knowing that it was very oily and people were complaining. I keep it in its original bag too so it doesn’t make the bin rancid. And shake the bag to hopefully disperse the oils.
    We’re looking into other brands now. Too bad. I really loved Champion.

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    Aaron m
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    I created a profile just to post this and I apologize in advance if it’s a little too much TMI.

    I have been feeding My cat Orijen Regional Red for about two years now and she has always loved it. She always seemed really active for an indoor cat and loved to play. i noticed early on when Inwould clean her litter box that her “movements” were very small and almost resembled that of a rabbit. I was later told by my vet that it was because the food was so high in protein and contained very little fillers.

    Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago and Imnoticed that A.) My cat’s “movements” smelled much stronger and B.) I immediately noticed that they were much bigger and fuller- resembled what I would expect from a small puppy. I immediately went to the bag to check it and turns out it is a bag from the Kentucky plant.

    I had noticed a couple of weeks ago that she was a little more lethargic and this on top of the changes in her litter box is enough to have me go get a newmfood tomorrow which is really sad because she truly loved the Canadian version.

    Think I’m going to give The Honest Kithen a try as I am reading really good reviews for it.

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    Donna M
    Member

    I noticed the same thing with my dogs, messier stools and smelly. I no longer feed either the Orijen or Acana now.

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    heather s
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    i purchased a 25 pound bag of orijen original from chewys last month after reading about heavy metal contamination i then discovered posts about hair in the food. today i closely examined the food and found at least 15 hairs baked in and loose in a 1/2 c scoo.p i called orijen they claim the hair is part of a biologically appropriate diet, but that they have contacted the supplier to stop leaving so much hair and hide in the product they deliver. when asked about heavy metal contamination they claim they test their foods and they meet nrc regulations which tie in according to the woman with fda standards and the fda does not have standards for heavy metals in dog food they do for animal feed but not dog food, fda only gets concerned if heavy metal contamination is from additions to the food ie adulterants not heavy metals contained in meats and vegetables used in the dog food. from what i can tell fish oil is not good high in mercury and turkey is the lowest for heavy metal contamination i think im going to try canidae turkey canned food has anyone tried that?

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    C C
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    It has been about 6 months now from our original posts here and since we lost our Sheltie, and the complaints just keep coming. It is so disgusting that they are still making excuses for anything and everything from this Kentucky manufacturing plant and blaming anyone and everyone else. It is absolutely an abomination. Lesson learned. I am so very thankful that I cook my own fresh meat and vegetables now for my new Sheltie puppy, adding it to Honest Kitchen, and she is doing great. No chemicals, no “hair”, no metal contamination, no pieces of plastic wrapping, road kill, or “slime” from being rancid, etc. It is amazing to me that the dog food industry is interested purely in profit and not animal lives. Once upon a time canned dog food used to be human grade as a regular product, but no more. So very sad, and I have not heard back from my report to the FDA either.

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    Tracy A A
    Member

    My local pet store recommended KIND dog food. It comes out of Canada and she says the head cook for the food worked at Arcana plant in Canada. I also found a non GMO food from Italy N&D by Farmina. I hope this helps solve the finding a new food for our 4 legged children.

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    heather s
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    orijen told me that hairs are part of a biologically appropriate diet

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    What??? Gross. (My response regarding the hair issue…)

    #99730 Report Abuse

    C C
    Member

    Right, so is rancid fish oil, soggy shipping bags, very sick dogs, and more…You can’t fix a problem until you’re at least out of denial and all you get from them is excuses. They will never be able to justify how they are affecting pets and it appears until more die they are continuing to accept the unacceptable, as are many other dog food companies who even justify using road kill and expired meat, wrapping and all!

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    Svan D
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    As other reviews state, Acana moved its manufacturing plant from Canada to KY. That’s not all they changed. The Pacifica product was made from higher quality salmon in cleaner waters to what is now lower quality herring and redfish that live in more contaminated waters. I’m a toxicologist and noticed the change immediately when first opening the new bag. My dog, who is such an avid eater that he has a ‘slow feed’ bowl, obviously noticed too and was hesitant to eat it. So researching a new dog food, I read DogFoodAdvisor and Clean Label Project (nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization of vets and MDs http://www.cleanlabelproject.org/product-ratings/pet-food/ ). I was horrified to see that this product is rated in the “Bottom Ten: Out of 299 dry dog foods tested, the bottom ten, on average, contain the highest amount of harmful environmental and industrial contaminants and toxins.” Orijen isn’t any better.

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 1 week ago by  Svan D. Reason: typo
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    S P
    Member

    Svan,

    A sincere thanks for posting the information pertaining to contamination, however, one “caveat” needs to be mentioned: The majority of the report’s top rated brands are some of the worst foods that you can possibly feed to a dog! What a dilemma….

    As a side-note, if interested in a fish diet for your pooch, I have been satisfied with a Canadian brand called ‘Holistic Blend/My Healthy Pet/Marine Fish 5 Fish/Grain Free’ (I “ditched” Champion/ACANA/Orijen months ago). This exact brand wasn’t included in the ‘Clean Label’ review, but I have been very satisfied with the results achieved so far (white Pitbull 70lbs – easy weight maintenance, small stool, no skin allergies or itching, no oily residue, and the food doesn’t smell bad, which is usually the case with other fish-based diets. Chewy is one of the few retailers. Try the 7.5lb. bag. -SP

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    Fugazzzii
    Member

    A little hair in bags of beef dog food is actually normal. In the wild wolves eat prey hair and all, it’s a source of fiber.

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    #102760 Report Abuse

    Fugazzzii
    Member

    FYI Cleanlabelproject project is not a legitimate source of info. It’s very misleading. All the big Purina brands are highly rated and the expensive brands are low rated. It’s a complete sham.

    They did a AMA on Reddit and got torn apart for being frauds.

    They own the labs where they conducted these ‘tests’. They don’t share any info besides there star rating..

    They profit off Amazon affiliate links selling these brands they rated poorly..

    The list of shady stuff the CleanLabelProject people are involved with:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/dogs/comments/6l0vs4/discussion_recent_claims_by_clean_label_project

    https://www.reddit.com/r/dogs/comments/63p0ps/news_a_toxicology_report_released_yesterday/#dfvvbys

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    a c
    Member

    Actually, my vet’s choice of dog food for my dog with pancreatitis history is Purina One Smartblend healthy weight formula. It received one star from CLP testing.

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    Caroline C
    Member

    Looks like Chewy.com has finally decided to drop ACANA and Orijen foods. Thank goodness. My dog is in kidney failure due to ACANA’s Wild Atlantic dry kibble. Their fish based dog foods should all be recalled. I contacted Chewy.com in early June imploring them to do testing on their own of a specific lot, 3002505-62212. This is an email I received this morning from Chewy.com. The spin on it indicates that Champion Pet Foods is actually the one pulling the food from Chewy.com. Either way, it is a good thing for pets. ACANA and Orijen is poisoning our pets.
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    I’m sorry to let you know that Champion Pet Foods, makers of Orijen and ACANA, will no longer be available at Chewy and will only be available while supplies last. Champion has decided to limit their distribution and will no longer service Chewy customers.
    I am very disappointed by Champion’s decision to end their retail partnership with us because it greatly impacts you, our customer. Their business decision to limit distribution was clearly not in the best interest of customers like you, who have come to rely on Chewy to feed your furry family.
    When I founded our company my mission was simple, deliver the highest quality products at the best prices and provide an unmatched customer experience. We have always put our customers and their pets at the center of everything we do. That’s why we have the most knowledgeable customer service representatives in the industry dedicated to providing best-in-class customer service and adding personal touches to online shopping with handwritten cards and hand-painted portraits of your pets.
    It’s particularly upsetting that despite all of my company’s efforts and personal relationships throughout the years, Champion has decided that they will no longer service our customers.
    I urge all customers who are affected by this to personally contact Champion directly to let them know you rely on the convenience of delivery and value the personalized service you receive from Chewy. Unfortunately, for many of you this decision will result in your inability to get these products in a convenient way. Please encourage Champion not to put their corporate interests above the interests of their customers and their pets.
    Call
    877-939-0006
    Email
    [email protected]
    Post
    https://www.facebook.com/ChampionPetfoods/
    I know how important it is to choose the right food for your pet and our Customer Service Team is available 24/7/365 to answer any of your questions or to help you select from over 500 brands of top-rated natural, high-protein and grain-free foods.
    Sincerely,
    Ryan Cohen
    Founder & CEO

    #102854 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Yep, this is just the beginning, a lot of dog foods will no longer be available at Chewy due to the fact that Chewy is now owned by PetSmart.
    A lot of the better foods will be dropping out. I expect a lot of notices to go out in August.

    http://www.nutrisourcepetfoods.com/nutrisource/chewy-com-statement/?mc_cid=9ebf5c81f4&mc_eid=675487c793

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/dogswell-aquired-by-whitebridge/

    #102855 Report Abuse

    Caroline C
    Member

    Svan,

    I would suggest that you have your dog’s blood and urine tested for kidney functions. What you describe is exactly what happened to my labrador with the new ACANA Wild Atantic formulation. She picked at her food and I thought it was her teeth. The vet did a blood test before sedating her to clean her teeth and her BUN and CREA were extremely high. Additional urine tests and followup blood tests have been very grave. She was in kidney failure. And then I read Clean Label Project’s report and was horrified. I felt like I poisoned my dog. I spoke with the lab that did CLP’s testing and when they started these tests they thoughts their testing equipment was malfunctioning. The level of toxins was something they had never seen before. ACANA and Orijen is poisoning our dogs.

    #102856 Report Abuse

    C C
    Member

    Svan and Caroline, First I’m so sorry to hear about your dog’s ill health, but unfortunately not surprised. And I’m very happy to hear that Acana is not going to be sold by Chewy any longer. Hopefully others will also stop selling this toxic food as they learn the reality of what is happening to dogs. And that goes for all poor quality dog foods and even ones vets recommend. We must do our own research to make a wisdom decision for our beloved fur babies!

    #102857 Report Abuse

    Carol C
    Member

    If I understand the e-mail I recieved from Chewy, it was not their decision to drop Champion foods.
    Champion will not longer service Chewy customers.

    #102858 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Exactly, I will cancel my contract with Chewy if Zignature drops out.
    Chewy isn’t the only place to buy dog food.
    Check Amazon, local pet supply stores, etc.

    #102861 Report Abuse

    Nata T
    Member

    Hi all,

    I am very sorry for your puppies being sick and now wonder myself if this is the cause of mine being unwell. Hope they recover soon. There are holistic ways to help your babies.
    We used to feed my fur boy Acana only until they decided to open a plant in KY and in the USA we only have access to that food. So, I found new food for him over a year ago. It was a perfect choice with new food and my boy not once had ANY health issues. Until this May when I for some reason forgot that I didn’t order his food (only available on line), I ran into Hollywood feed and got a bag of Acana Wild Atlantic. Immediately, he started to itch, eating himself to bleeding. I freaked out and took him to the vet and asked for blood test. His BUN was ok, but CREA was sooo high, MCH and MCHC so low that it alarmed me. The vet said- no worries, this is allergy. Stupid me, feeling so bad for my boy, agreed to a steroid shot to relief the itch. We also got antibiotics and allergy drugs, which cost me an arm and leg. But, anything for my boy. I eat and live healthy and natural as I can. So, I started my research and after 10 days of meds, I took him off. Sorry, got carried away.
    The Acana food I bought was sooo greasy that it concerned me, but I still fed him (I bought a smaller bag). Stupid me!
    As soon as our regular food arrived, I switched and he is getting better.
    It has been over a month of this disaster, but I am getting this under control.

    This morning I received the same e-mail from Chewy and was surprised. But I guess it is for the better.
    Being bought by Petsmart is not good news to me.

    I am in process of transferring to raw now.
    The food I currently feed is UK made formula (Guidelines are tougher in Europe) made in Austin, TX by one of the family member, who lives in the USA. No grain, no soy, no canola, no rice, no potatoes, no eggs. Once a week I give him egg with shell. Kelp daily. Fruits and veggies he access any time. No harm, except few high in sugar, no raisins, avocado, grapes.
    So glad I came across this post. Thank you all!

    #102862 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    If your dog has environmental allergies, the food has nothing to do with it.
    Make an appointment with a veterinary dermatologist for the best results.
    Btw: Steroids are often necessary and the only way to stop the suffering (temporarily) until the dog gets seen by a specialist and recommended testing (not phony baloney mail-in hair and saliva tests) is done.
    Once you get an accurate diagnosis you can then evaluate the treatment options.
    Raw food is the worst thing you could do to any living thing.

    This is not veterinary advice; consult your veterinarian.

    Ps: There is no cure for allergies. Initial testing by a veterinary dermatologist and start of treatment can run up to $600-$1000 depending, maintenance can run from $300- $600 every 5 months or so. But, for many dogs it works, and they are comfortable.
    Treatment tends to be lifelong. Ask your vet (a veterinary health care professional) if you don’t believe me.

    #102863 Report Abuse

    Nata T
    Member

    In my opinion, steroids is the worst thing that could happen to anyone (I speak from experience – human and canine) – it is not the healer or helper, it is a simple symptom suppresser, which as you might know not helping immune system or the body. As you said, it is ” temporarily” relief. Yeah, I consulted the vet and was told he is ok, when blood work was clearly not showing positive results.
    Thanks for your opinion though!
    Not here to argue. 🙂

    #102864 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Interesting. All I know is that prednisone saved my life when I had an allergic reaction caused by a vaccine.
    Prednisone also saved my dog from continuing to scratch herself bloody raw until we could get to the specialist.
    I know of what I speak.

    Good luck.

    • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by  anon101.
    #103125 Report Abuse

    C C
    Member

    Hello everyone…I pretty much started this topic after losing our precious Sheltie most likely from toxic Acana Pacifica dog food and I’m going to attach a link from the Clean Label Project research. Although this doesn’t evaluate nutritional quality, for which we have Dog Food Advisor, it does shed tremendous light on toxic elements found in today’s dog food, the worst in many years for lead, arsenic, and BPA. I received this notice from petmd.com and the Clean Label Project. Check out the ratings especially for Acana and Orijen being the worst at a 1 star out of 5, probably since the switch in manufacturing was made from Canada to the plant in Kentucky. Very eye opening at best and can be discouraging as well. However, keeping ourselves educated can lead to wisdom decisions and best health for our pets. I hope this will be helpful, so just cut and paste into your web browser.

    http://www.petmd.com/news/view/your-pets-food-safe-36136?roi=echo3-45455985558-43354653-32a69d60886230debd6ada66a0ae6813&utm_source=BlogSubscribers&utm_medium=Email&utm_content=072017blog&utm_campaign=Blog

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    BooPacerKing
    Member

    New member here. Joined just to comment in this thread. Our 4-year old black lab has had serious problems on the Acana food, frighteningly similar to what many have posted here. We have been feeing him Acana for a couple years now. The severe problems seem to conincide with the timing of when our pet food store ran out of the Canadian produced food. We’ve tried different flavors of the Acana, which will initially entice him to eat, but he has gotten to where he refuses to eat any Acana and will not go near his food bowl is you put a different brand in that same food bowl. If you then put a different brand any other bowl, he will snarf it down. If you then put the Acana in a new bowl, he will not touch it with a 10-foot pole. Yet, he is NOT a picky eater.

    Yes, he has been to the vet. Multiple times. The vet has been scratching his head. Probiotics have not helped. Nor have allergy pills or pills to manage acid.

    My gut told me that something is wrong with the Acana food itself, and that git feeling led me here.

    Now we are hearing that other dogs in our area–those belonging to friends and people we’ve not met–are having similar issues.

    We are today taking samples of the two open bags (different Acana flavors) along with some unopened 5 lb. bags from our local pet food store to Texas A&M to be tested. Will post here what we learn.

    And we will be trying to get similar samples from a local woman whose young dog on Acana inexplicably died and her vet suspects the dog was poisoned.

    Interestingly, we have the UPC labels from almost every bag of Acana we’ve fed our dog….

    #103694 Report Abuse

    BooPacerKing
    Member

    New member here. Joined just to comment in this thread. Our 4-year old black lab has had serious problems on the Acana food, frighteningly similar to what many have posted here. We have been feeding him Acana for a couple years now. The severe problems seem to conincide with the timing of when our pet food store ran out of the Canadian produced Acana. We’ve tried different flavors of the Acana, which will initially entice him to eat, but he has gotten to where he refuses to eat any Acana and will not go near his food bowl if you put a different brand in that same food bowl. If you then put a different brand any other bowl, he will snarf it down. If you then put the Acana in a new bowl, he will not touch it with a 10-foot pole. Yet, he is NOT a picky eater.

    Yes, he has been to the vet. Multiple times. The vet has been scratching his head. Probiotics have not helped. Nor have allergy pills or pills to manage acid.

    My gut told me that something is wrong with the Acana food itself, and that git feeling led me here.

    Now we are hearing that other dogs in our area–those belonging to friends and people we’ve not met–are having similar issues.

    We are today taking samples of the two open bags (different Acana flavors) along with some unopened 5 lb. bags from our local pet food store to Texas A&M to be tested. Will post here what we learn.

    And we will be trying to get similar samples from a local woman whose young dog on Acana inexplicably died and her vet suspects the dog was poisoned.

    Interestingly, we have the UPC labels from almost every bag of Acana we’ve fed our dog….

    #103697 Report Abuse

    Caroline C
    Member

    Below are the heavy metal results from a bag of ACANA Wild Atlantic dog food that was purchased in February. My dog died from kidney failure in July caused by an immune disease. I can’t help but think that feeding her food tainted with heavy metals did not help.

    Acana Wild Atlantic Dry Dog (special project)
    Pet Food Test
    Heavy Metals by ICPMS

    Lead (ppb) 289.7
    Arsenic (ppb) 3257.7
    Cadmium (ppb) 99.0
    Mercury (ppb) 45.6
    Nickel (ppb) 1172.6
    Chromium (ppb) 400.8

    #103698 Report Abuse

    Nata T
    Member

    Thank you, Caroline C.
    I am very sorry, everyone, whose fur kids are having issues with the commercial dog food (Acana in particular) and hope your babies recover and get better soon.
    I am also sorry for those of you, who lost precious pups. 🙁

    Personally, I am fully transferred mine to raw diet and love it. Before I fed Millies Wolfheart from Austin, TX. It was the best kibble for us.

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    a c
    Member

    This is very scary. My puppy has been on Orijen(same manufacturer as Acana) puppy food for about 2 months now. I hate to think I am feeding him the poison. Where can I take the food to get it tested? I wish Clean Label Project would publish their findings in detail info.

    I never use Orijen made in Canada, so I don’t have anything to compare to.

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    PATTI L
    Member

    China is sending their rubbish into our dog food, they want to make every dog sick

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    C C
    Member

    AC, please don’t take a chance on Origen or Acana, whether you believe you need specific detailed information from Clean Label or not. The testimonies of those who have had terribly sick, even losing their dogs, can be enough when there are other quality dog foods available. Please compare what Dog Food Advisor recommends WITH Clean Label and make a wisdom decision yourself even over and above opinions of others. As stated, we lost our precious Sheltie so nothing is worth going against your heart instincts and personal gathered insights. When she was dying I also asked in prayer for wisdom. Also as stated by many, even vets don’t always know and some can even advise their “prescription food”, which can be literally full of road kill in many cases. Many vets just aren’t trained regarding food issues or other ways to treat disease, just dispense drugs like our human Drs do. It takes a special vet, perhaps a holistic one in your area, that can be well informed of all these matters to help you. I now have a new Sheltie that also has special issues (we call her our “rescue” even though gotten from a breeder) and I thank God for our new vet. Our first visit there was a full hour getting background on her, clear understanding of her daily habits and issues of concerns, gave great suggestions on how to help her, not just drugs. Even assigned a special mild mannered and patient tech to do her first nail clipping. Amazing experience that was best for our girl because things like stress, poor training/handling, lack of socialization, etc. can also make dogs literally sick. Thanks for listening and best wishes in the times ahead.

    #103708 Report Abuse

    BooPacerKing
    Member

    Our vet was quite literally floored when we started describing to him what we gathered from this thread and began to suspect. The vet feels terrible because he’d had us giving our dog allergy medication, acid-control medication, and probiotics, not realizing that the only thing those meds were doing was allowing our dog to tolerate the Acana that may have something wrong with it.

    After the Kentucky Ancana, not only did our lab start vomiting up the food (and eventually wouldn’t eat it), but he had also started drooling excessively and having a runny nose.

    Turns out the dog quite literally needs none of those medications or dietary supplements. Those meds were merely masking the basic problem. Perhaps some owners would’ve switched foods earlier (and we would’ve if the vet had even hinted at this being related to the food in any of the many times they looked at the dogs for any of these snowballing symptoms), but we had fallen for all the marketing, etc. indicating that Acana was one of the best foods out there. And it remains the best-selling food carried by our local pet store.

    When the lab refused to eat the food, one of our other dogs (a small dog who is fed a science diet brand food) grabbed several mouths full. Isn’t it fascinating that the small dog threw up later that day. Different dog, same result. Hmmmm.

    As it turns out, the lab would’ve been better off eating any grocery-store brand than the Acana. We now have small bags of three different high-end foods (not Acana or Orijen) that he is currently testing. We have not seen this Labrador this happy and perky in years. No meds or supplements. And seems to be completely symptom free.

    Without the science, though, we cannot definitely blame this on the Acana. But the coincidences and the severity of the symptoms on the Acana are too great. If there is something wrong with that food, we can’t just let people feed it to their animals.

    My fear is that even if the science says that there are elevated levels of something bad in the food, we will be told that the ingredients are within industry-accepted levels. But it sure seems like there are some dogs not tolerating it and that it is actually causing injury or worse to others. That? Is not ok. But it could be that dog food manufacturers may shrug it off. After all, there must be thousands of dogs in the U.S. eating this food.

    But we shall see. The university scientists have already jumped on board to get to the bottom of it, and they themselves will be doing the reporting to the FDA if the tests turn up something untoward.

    Someone asked where they could send their dog food to be tested. I believe that Caroline C listed the name of the laboratory that tested her food.

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    PATTI L
    Member

    anon101 why do you consider raw would not help in this instance ,
    dog food is to complicated these days stick to plain grocery store dog food and leftovers
    maybe some raw & bones for good health.

    #103722 Report Abuse

    a c
    Member

    C C, I am sorry about your Sheltie. I also lost my miniature schnauzer a few months ago to lymphoma. He was on Hill’s Science diet with topper of other kibbles, wet food, or human food all his life. At that time, I thought science diet was the best. It was recommended by multiple vets. I later learned that was not the case. I agree with you that vets just aren’t trained regarding food issues or other ways to treat diseases, just dispense drugs… I know first hand on that. My schnauzer was misdiagnosed by our regular vet. Three visits within the same month and the vet though he has hurt his back and put him on steroids which
    probably was one of the reason that he was not responsed to the chemotherapy later on. It was the ER vet who diagnosed him with lymphoma. The vet oncologists just followed the protocols to dispense medications like the assembly line.

    Back to the topic. I am in the process switching from Orijen puppy to Horizon Amicus puppy, but has to deal with sloppy stool. Horizon Amicus is make in Canada. It was not tested by the Clean Label. I don’t know if I make the right choice? Do you know anything about Horizon dog food? There are so many information out there and it’s very overwhelming and confusing. I am so new on the dog food issues. I was blinded by the dog food marketing for years.

    Btw. I have a new discovery this morning. I have been soaking the kibbles in water. I noticed the soaked kibbles smells really bad. Since I soaked Orijen and Horizen Amicus together, I couldn’t tell which one is it. Both kibbles smells ok when it’s dry. So, I soaked them separately this morning. It was the Orijen. 10 minutes into soaking, the kibbles smells bad but the kibbles are still pretty hard. Horizon Amicus still has the same herb smell as the dry and it’s very soft.

    #103751 Report Abuse

    a c
    Member

    Pet food stores need to stop telling people that Orijen and Acana have the best dog food because inexperience pet owners most likely will buy what pet food stores tell them to. Not everyone know about this website and the Clean Label.

    I addition, you will think pet insurance companies will be jumping on those toxic pet food manufacturers. If those dog food are making dogs sick or die, pet insurance companies will be paying.

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