Help~dog food advice for yeast thats also low sodium

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    Lori J
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    Hello,
    I am wondering if anyone could recommend a lower sodium dog food that is good for a dog w yeast on the paws. 10 yr old Ted a poodle/mix has a enlarged heart/murmur and also a yeast problem on the 2 front paws where he can lick.The vet did a slide to confirm ~ he also has some staining under the eyes and some of skin appears to be black but he does not itch/scratch.Not sure if he has eviromental allergies or is allergic to chicken etc. He was also on antibotics a few months ago due to a ruptured cyst so that could be the reason for the yeast overgrowth. He currently eats Wellness heathly weight,I was also mixing in a lil Honest Kitchen in but stopped a couple of months ago b/c it was getting a litte expensive for 2 dogs.Anyhow I am confused what food to try that it not chicken, w/o potatoes etc as I would like to get this yeast under control w/o adding too much soduim. Thank you so much for any adviceas its so confusing!

    #104400 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    If your vet is recommending prescription food, I would go with that.
    Otherwise, ask your vet if Zignature kibble would work? No chicken, no potato.
    Ask your vet if frequent bathing with a prescription shampoo would help.
    Check with your vet, but if the dogs symptoms are related to environmental allergies, changing the food will not have any effect.
    PS: No commercial dog foods are low sodium, only prescription food is low enough in sodium to meet the criteria for a dog with a cardiac condition. I would assume the requirement for a low sodium diet would take priority over other issues.

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by  anon101.
    #104404 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    Thanks for replying~ I did buy a bag of Zignature but then noticed salt as an added ingredient so returned. As of now ~ the cardio Dr does not have him on a restricted sodium diet just reg diet~ I just dont want a food that is high in sodium as Im sure that it wouldnt be in his best interest long term. I am leaning toward it being environmental allergies but think I need to change the food anyways for the yeast so want try something w/o chicken / grains/ potatoes just in case

    #104405 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    The amount of sodium in Zignatture dog food is not high. All dog foods contain salt under a variety of different names.

    https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/sodium-in-dry-dog-food/

    #104406 Report Abuse

    Susan
    Member

    Hi Lori J,
    are you washing your dog paws in “Malaseb” medicated shampoo, the Malaseb is excellent for yeasty paws, skin & kills the yeast & bacteria & can be used daily as it’s a mild shampoo, it keeps the skin beautiful soft & moist….
    You have to work out what foods your dog is sensitive too & what is causing the yeasty paws, it might be a grass allergy? it may be food sesnitivities? that’s a MYTH about potatoes all starchy foods causing yeast in dogs, it’s only when the dog has a senstivities to certain ingredients it starts to react itch & scratch & get yeasty smelly paws, ears, skin, gas, sloppy poo’s etc.. Yeast happens when the dog has become very sensitive to an ingredient he’s eating or environment alergies.
    Start your boy on a good probiotic as well, Probiotics are best given inbetween meal, when stomach acid is low in stomach, its normally when you wake first thing of a morning or I just give inbetween meal, I buy & givemy boy the “Yakult” probiotic drink, you buy at the supermarket, Patch gets 1/4 & I drink the rest, cost about 40 -50c a day they come 5 in a pack sold in the fridge section where the milk normally is.

    Have a look at “Canidae” the Pure Formula’s, the “Pure Meadow” Senior is really good formula to feed a senior dog you’ll see a big change within 3 weeks, or look at the “Pure Wild” Boar, they are money back guaranteed if you have any problems & email for teh sodium % but I’m pretty sure the sodium is low here’s the link sometimes it’s best to pay a little bit more for a dogs food then it saves the dog not getting itchy yeasty skin & an expensive trip to the vets & medications.
    Canidae do make a cheaper food called “Under the Sun” that also has had great reviews. https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products

    Your best to join this group on facebook called “Dogs issues, allergies and other information” group
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/240043826044760/
    & get some correct advise from a Vet Dermatoligist that specializes in the skin & dogs with other health problems & other people that have dealt with the same health problems as your boy has, there’s heaps of really good advice & if any advice given is in correct, Admin steps in & corrects it, epecially about potatoes causing yeast in dogs, its one of the most posted posts cause of all the lies on the internet, it’s a really positive group it’s also has a Dermatologist, Karen Helton Rhodes DVM DACVD who frequents the group & she has her own f/b group called “Canine Skin Solutions inc” she’ll answer any questions you may have. Here’s one of her links “Facts & Myths about Yeast Dermatitis in Dogs” http://www.healthyskin4dogs.com/blog/2015/9/8/facts-myths-about-yeast-dermatitis-in-dogs
    Your best to wash paws daily in an anti fungal medicated shampoo like “Malaseb” & wash off any allergens on his paws & any yaest off his paws to make him comfortable & to feed a diet that your boy hasn’t eaten much off or eaten before so he probably won’t be sensitive too those ingredients but it’s best to do elimination food diet & work out what ingredients he’s sensitive too ??
    I use creams on my boy yeasty paws, I have found creams to work the best, apply after you have wash his paws, my vet recommends Hydrocortisone 1% cream it’s sold in Walmart probably under a different name, you lightly apply before bed & during the day if dog seems stressed about his paws & is chewing & licking them, then you can put on some socks, I use those elastic bandages, you cut amount needed & use the bandage tape to stay on, this is if the socks keep falling off but this is only needed if he’s licking his paws thru the day or night & won’t stop his licking them making his paws worse & red, best the air gets to his paws thru the day, I also use another cream called “Sudocrem” of a morning before he goes outside, Sudocrem is in the baby section or sold on Amazon or Ebay, the Sudocrem acts a barrier & protects the paws from allergens like grass, dirt etc when walking outside & the Sudocrem stops the paws from itching & stops the reddness, Sudocrem is for Dermatitis, Eczema, Nappy Rash, Pressure Sores in Australia it’s a very popular cream for dogs with skin problems & babies as well at a good price around $8 & it last forever, you can look up the ingredients & try & find a cream that has very similair ingredients, a lady from the F/B Dogs issues & allergies group found a cream with very similiar ingredients to the Sudocrem that worked for her dog itchy yeasty paws but I can’t remember the name of teh cream, I should of written it down, once you change Teds diet, start bathing & washing his paws & body at least twice a week & using the creams, you’ll see a big difference in Ted he’ll be happier comfortable & acting like a young pup, my neighbour has an aging dog as soon as he started to eat the new Canidae Pure Meadow Senior kibble after just a couple of weeeks he was like a young pup again, his skin & coat looks heaps better & nice shinny, no more bold patches, his fur has all grown back, he’s like a different dog, just changing a dogs diet can make a real big difference….
    Good-Luck hope Ted feels better real soon, I have to go & bath Patch its his weekly bath today, now I have everything under control he’s doing real well, I hate giving him baths but its just something I have to do other wise I have a itchy whinging dog telling me he’s itchy he starts to get cranky rubbing & slidding his body on the carpet, he has seasonal enviornment allergies & food sensitivities….
    Spring has just started in Australia & it’s going to be a hot Summer, you might find Ted is better thru the cooler Winter months as long as he’s eating the right diet he isn’t sensitive too & then Spring/Summer comes around & Ted starts to get real itchy & smelly again, that’s Seasonal Environment Allergies..

    #104407 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Malaseb is an excellent shampoo and is often recommended by veterinarians for specific skin conditions, it is expensive and works best when used in conjunction with other prescribed treatments.
    A gentle puppy shampoo or just rinsing the paws off with plain water and gently towel drying when the dog comes in from outside may be just as effective.
    I would caution against applying anything to the paws or skin without your vet’s approval as it might cause irritation.
    Just my 2 cents

    #104408 Report Abuse

    Susan
    Member

    Malaseb does not have to be used in conjunction with no other prescribe treatments, the only thing you need to use Malaseb shampoo with is water & leave on the paws & skin 5-10mins to kill the yeast & bacteria thats on the dogs skin…
    How are you going to kill yeast on a dogs paws & skin with a gentle puppy shampoo??
    I dont think you’ve ever had a dog with yeasty skin & paws Anon101 like you have written you just like adding your 2 cents worth & that’s what its worth 2c…

    In Australia you can buy Malaseb Shampoo at any pet shop, vets practice or online & we have had Malaseb shampoo as far back as I can remember, it’s not a new shampoo & it’s the BEST treatment to kill yeast on a smelly itchy dog…. a small bottle of Malaseb last a long time, you don’t need to add much shampoo, 1 teaspoon shampoo goes a long way, I have had a 250ml bottle for 2 yrs now & cost me $25 Au $, now that’s worth it especially when bathing a dog weekly for 2 yrs & making your dog comfortable, itch & yeast free… there’s probably a few cheaper anti fungal shampoos out there, look on Chewys site or at Pet Shops but you get what you pay for in the end so read the ingredients, Walmart did have a copy of the Malaseb $7 but it’s been discontinued apparently, maybe Walmart has another antifungal shampoo now..
    You can mix 1/2 Vinegar & 1/2 water in a square bucket & stand your dog front paws in the bucket for a couple of mins then his back paws in the bucket, the vinegar kills the yeast BUT I have found it ends up drying out the skin inbetween the paws if used daily so best to only do the 1/2 water 1/2 vinegar soak twice a week, you can also use Betadine or Dettol antiseptic wash as well instead of the vinegar but the same it dries out skin inbetween their toes & pads, the Malaseb shampoo doesn’t dry any skin & it kills the yeast & smells better..

    #104409 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    Thank you both for helping me. My gut feeling is that Ted does have a grass allergy which is causing his yeasty paws and not the food but of course that just my guess. The only reason I thought to stay away from potatoes is reading that the yeast may feed on the starch. Its all so confusing! I have also started giving him a spoonful of plain greek yogurt in the am and I have some packets of FortiFlora that the vet had given to my other dog awhile back for another issue so have been sprikling that on his evening meal. The Vet did give a jar of Mal A Ket wipes for the 2 front paws but I have been thinking I should also get the shampoo.I have also tried the Iodine foot bath & vinegar foot bath . Seems like the wipes working a lil better. I will check out the Canidae foods. It would make it so much easier if the sodium level was listed on dog food labels! Thank you again!!

    #104410 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    You’re welcome.
    I provided information about sodium via the link in my second post in this thread, including below:

    “Here is the correct sodium levels for all of our Zignature formulas:”
    Salmon-0.72%
    Venison-0.60%
    Kangaroo-0.67%
    Whitefish-0.51%
    Duck-0.70%
    Lamb-0.62%
    Trout & Salmon-0.57%
    Turkey-0.54%
    Zssential-0.52%

    Also:
    Purina Pro Plan Focus Sensitive Skin & Stomach Salmon & Rice
    https://www.k9ofmine.com/best-low-sodium-dog-food

    I have found that my dog with allergies does best on a limited ingredient diet, Zignature whitefish is our current favorite, in conjunction with other treatments (veterinary dermatologist) I avoid potato too, some kibbles are loaded with it.
    Nutrisca is another good food, with no potato, you may find it to be a bit more reasonable.
    However, from what you have described your dog’s allergies sound mild/seasonal.
    In example: skin intact, no scabs, no pruritus, no ear infections.
    I would continue to work closely with your vet, there are more treatment options available now, if these things occur. If those paw pad wipes are effective, I would continue, especially after the dog has walked on wet grass covered in morning dew.

    #104412 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    @ Lori J
    Thanks for mentioning the Mal-A-Ket Shampoo. It’s reasonable, so I may try it.
    Now that my allergy dog is stable, I don’t always need the Malaseb.
    In fact, Sergeants fur so fresh dog shampoo (puppy) works well.

    #104423 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    I just bought a bag a the Zignature Lamb to try out but still not happy w peas in there. Would Something like Orijen, Acana or Wellness core be better? I wouldnt mind making home cooked meals for my 2 if it is easy. I dont think I can do raw.

    #104443 Report Abuse

    Susan
    Member

    Hi Lori, I just posted a post about “Clean Label Project” click on link & look at all the 5 Star foods, Canidae & Under the Sun, Nutro, Purina, I & love & You all got 5 stars, & Acana, Wellness & Orijen got 1 star they are very high in Toxins. Wellness has a lawsuit at the moment for false advertisement saying their dry kibble is high quaility but Clean Label Test tested a few of Wellness formula’s & they tested very high for toxins…..
    If you can cook then freeze meals, home cooking is heaps better then feeding a dry processed kibble, Ted will probably start to feel & get better especially at age 10 Ted would probably love a nice cooked meal, I buy tin salmon in spring water & tin Sardines in spring water & add a few sardines to one of the cooked meal or some Salmon to 1 of the meals a day, Salmon & Sardines will help balance the meal with Omega 3, Vitamins for his joints, bones, heart, brain, skin & coat,.. I buy tin Salmon & Tuna slices in Spring water & drain all teh water & I boil some sweet potatoes & mix 1/2 & 1/2 & make a meal, it’s healthy & probably wont have any toxins like the dry kibbles have.
    If your not happy feeding a Chickpeas & Peas diet then take the food back & say your dog won’t eat it, most pet foods are money back guaranteed for palability…

    #104444 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Zignature is an excellent choice, I don’t think you will be disappointed. The ingredients are good, the peas, chickpeas and such are to have a carb source as they do not use potato and are a healthier choice. No lentils in the lamb formula, but lentils are good!
    You can always add a little something like soft or canned food and a splash of water.
    https://www.chewy.com/zignature-lamb-limited-ingredient/dp/36736 Just read the reviews.

    Regarding Clean Label Project report, make sure you read the prior posts in that thread.
    Many of us are not impressed and consider the report to be unreliable.
    PS: Canned fish is not low sodium.

    #104445 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    http://skeptvet.com/Blog/2016/07/more-nonsense-from-holistic-vets-about-commercial-therapeutic-diets/ below is copied from the comment section of this blog, click on link for the entire article and more comments. Hope this helps

    skeptvet says:
    August 8, 2016 at 11:04 am
    The problem is that definitive conclusions about “good” vs “bad” diets, or about the optimal diet for any individual pet, simply aren’t justified by the available evidence. Just because we want to be able to make firm, reliable conclusions about what to feed doesn’t mean we always can. Uncertainty is frustrating but sometimes it is a reality.
    I would say the best advice will come from board-certified nutrition specialists, but this level of input is probably only needed for animals with specific health issues related to nutrition. Otherwise, the basic principles would be something like:
    1. Don’t overfeed. Overweight body conditions is the most significant nutritional risk factor for disease known, and reasonable caloric restriction has been consistently shown to have health benefits.
    2. Feed a commercial diet that meets basic adequacy standards or a homemade cooked diet formulated by a nutritionist.
    3. Monitor body weight, lean body mass, stool and coat quality, and other measures of well-being and if they do not seem to be optimal, feel free to do some trial and error changing of brands or diets, accepting that the results are of limited value for generalizing about the feeding of other pets.
    4. Don’t get rigid and dogmatic about specific ingredients, brands, etc. The label really tells us almost nothing of value about the health implications of a particular food.
    5. If it sounds revolutionary or too good to be true and isn’t supported by extensive, consistent clinical research, it’s probably just opinion and not very reliable advice.

    #104446 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    I havent had time to read the reports yet but I did phone Zignature and the email mailed the sodium levels which are way higher than what was posted up above so dont think I want to stay on that after this bag is done. Maybe the amounts are the same but I need to know the mg per kcal fomula to know if its too much.The Salmon wouldn’t be too bad but the rest are too high I think.

    Sodium mg/100kcal

    72.15 mg/100kcal Zignature Salmon Dry Dog Formula

    187.48 mg/100kcal Zignature Venison Dry Dog Formula

    112.3 mg/100kcal Zignature Kangaroo Dry Dog Formula

    117.37 mg/100kcal Zignature Whitefish Dry Dog Formula

    90.9 mg/100kcal Zignature Duck Dry Dog Formula

    167.59 mg/100kcal Zignature Lamb Dry Dog Formula

    102.61 mg/100kcal Zignature Trout&Salmon Dry Dog Formula

    260.02 mg/100kcal Zignature Turkey Dry Dog Formula

    143.92 mg/100kcal Zignature Zssential Dry Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Catfish Dry Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Pork Dry Dog Formula

    • This reply was modified 4 weeks ago by  Lori J.
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    #104450 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Those figures are not what I received from Zignature. I would call them and ask for an explanation. I was told that the whitefish had the lowest sodium.

    https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/zignature-dog-food/
    Zignature Dog Food Judy • 3 months ago
    Hello Judy! No worries, none of our formulas reach even 1% sodium levels.
    Here is a list of all our sodium levels;
    0.7% Salmon
    0.6% Venison
    0.6% Kangaroo
    0.5% Whitefish
    0.7% Duck
    0.6% Lamb
    0.5% Trout&Salmon
    0.5% Turkey
    0.5% Zssential
    0.6% Catfish
    0.5% Pork
    If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask. The last thing we want is any confusion from misinformation.

    #104452 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    What about Pro Plan? https://www.k9ofmine.com/best-low-sodium-dog-food/ excerpt below

    1. Purina Pro Plan Focus Sensitive Skin & Stomach Salmon & Rice Formula
    About: Pro Plan Focus is a salmon-and-rice-based recipe that is designed for dogs with stomach sensitivities or food allergies. Salmon and rice are typically not allergens and most dogs are able to digest this food easily.
    Price: $$
    Features:
    Salmon is the first listed ingredient.
    Made with antioxidant-rich ingredients to help promote immune system function
    Fortified with omega fatty acids to ensure joint, skin and coat health
    Made without any artificial colors, artificial flavors, corn, wheat or soy

    PROS: Purina Pro Plan Focus has the least sodium per calorie of any of the five foods recommended here. Most dogs appear to love the taste, and it may also provide some relief from food allergies.

    CONS: Additionally, Pro Plan is made without any probiotics to help regulate intestinal function; however, it does include prebiotic ingredients, which can help support any beneficial bacteria already present in your dog’s digestive tract.
    Ingredients:
    Salmon, Canola Meal, Brewers Rice, Barley, Oat Meal, Fish Meal (Source of Glucosamine), Animal Fat Preserved with Mixed-Tocopherols, Salmon Meal, Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Natural Flavor, Inulin, Fish Oil, Salt, Vitamin E Supplement, Potassium Chloride, Zinc Sulfate, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin, Vitamin A Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Source of Vitamin K Activity), Folic Acid, Biotin, Sodium Selenite. J-4449.
    Sodium Content:
    50 milligrams / 100 Calories

    #104453 Report Abuse

    aimee
    Member

    Hi Anon,
    The numbers don’t make sense to me either.
    I didn’t find kcal/kg information on their website only/cup which isn’t very helpful and using those numbers and an assumption of grams/cup what I calculate isn’t even close. For example turkey reports 457 kcals/cup I’m assuming 110 grams/cup. Using the 0.54 % Na level which I assume is as fed I get 130mg/100 kcals ..less than half what they reported.

    I realize one set is on caloric basis and the other isn’t but I’d expect that lowest and highest caloric values would be close to the same ranking as percentage. Could one set be canned formulas and the other dry?

    I emailed them for some information on August 18th. I got an e mail back saying they needed time to answer my questions…. still haven’t heard anything.

    #104454 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Hi, Aimee
    I notified someone at Zignature of the discrepancies, they are looking into it. I am hoping they respond here or in comments, maybe the person wasn’t who they claimed they were over at Zignature reviews?

    #104456 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Example: Not sure if this poster is actually a representative of Zignature dog food?
    https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/zignature-dog-food/
    Zignature Dog Food • 5 months ago
    Hello everyone! We are always here to answer any questions, however responses through Dog Food Advisor can get a little messy. If anyone has any questions at all about our product, please feel free to contact us via Facebook, Twitter, *********, Email and/or Phone. Please keep in mind we ourselves are pet owners who love our furry friends and we understand that you view your pets as family and want the best for them. Thank you for taking the time to read this and have a wonderful rest of your day!

    #104457 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    I am not sure how to figure the % vs the mg. I know the low sodium list made from the Cardiology dept from Medvet -Cincinnati uses the milligrams per Kcal figure so thats what I use.The problem with the list is it only contains a few brands of food.I would like to stay under 100 mg per Kcal ~the lower the better to me for Ted’s heart.

    #104458 Report Abuse

    anon101
    Member

    Well then, as I mentioned before. Your best option would be low sodium/cardiac/prescription dog food, find a veterinarian that you trust (that has examined your dog) and see what he advises.
    There are no veterinarians here.
    PS: I told you Purina Pro Plan Focus Sensitive Skin & Stomach Salmon & Rice Formula meets your sodium criteria…..but you show no interest? (see previous post)

    #104459 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    Hi Anon ~I appreciate all your help! Yes I looked at the Pro Plan and it may be low sodium but the ingredients dont look they wold be good for a dog w a yeast infection/allergy if I am reading recommendations correctly. Brewers rice,barley, oats ~ I read were not good if dog may be allergic to grains and also may feed the yeast. Like I said so confusing! Ted is being treated by a cardiologist and said the he does not need a prescription food at this time. I just want a good dog food that does not have #1 ~ grains ( due to possibly allergy which is causing the yeast ) #2 low starch ( as not to feed the yeast problem Ted is having in his paws right now) and also a food that does not have #3 excessive sodium ( Due to his enlarged heart) I would like to stay under 100 mg / 100 Kcals I dont even want excessive salt for my other dog which does not have a heart problem. Of all the dog food out there ~ there has got to be some that fits the criteria.

    #104465 Report Abuse

    Lori J
    Member

    Aimee ~ here is the dry & wet sodium info they sent me~~

    Sodium mg/100kcal

    72.15 mg/100kcal Zignature Salmon Dry Dog Formula

    187.48 mg/100kcal Zignature Venison Dry Dog Formula

    112.3 mg/100kcal Zignature Kangaroo Dry Dog Formula

    117.37 mg/100kcal Zignature Whitefish Dry Dog Formula

    90.9 mg/100kcal Zignature Duck Dry Dog Formula

    167.59 mg/100kcal Zignature Lamb Dry Dog Formula

    102.61 mg/100kcal Zignature Trout&Salmon Dry Dog Formula

    260.02 mg/100kcal Zignature Turkey Dry Dog Formula

    143.92 mg/100kcal Zignature Zssential Dry Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Catfish Dry Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Pork Dry Dog Formula

    Sodium mg/100kcal

    89.88 mg/100kcal Zignature Salmon Canned Dog Formula

    89.50 mg/100kcal Zignature Venison Canned Dog Formula

    96.87 mg/100kcal Zignature Kangaroo Canned Dog Formula

    95.57 mg/100kcal Zignature Whitefish Canned Dog Formula

    101.66 mg/100kcal Zignature Duck Canned Dog Formula

    97.32 mg/100kcal Zignature Lamb Canned Dog Formula

    92.99 mg/100kcal Zignature Trout&Salmon Canned Dog Formula

    92.88 mg/100kcal Zignature Turkey Canned Dog Formula

    94.25 mg/100kcal Zignature Zssential Canned Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Catfish Canned Dog Formula

    Pending Zignature Pork Canned Dog Formula

    #104469 Report Abuse

    aimee
    Member

    Hi Lori J
    Keep in mind grain allergies are rare and that carbohydrates in the diet do not feed yeast on the skin. So sad that people that should know better write articles and post videos saying that you need a low carbohydrate diet to conquer yeast infections…. you don’t. The fact is that the type of yeast on dog’s skin is a fat loving yeast. Give some of these guys all the carbohydrate they want and you know what happens…. they die because they need fat to live. But even if they were carbohydrate loving yeast. How would the carbohydrate get from inside the digestive track to outside the body which is where the yeast are? Hmmm see where that falls apart?

    Point is you don’t need a low carb food…. you need a controlled sodium food. I took a look at the MedVet list.. lots of choices there including grain free options like Cal Natural kangaroo and lentils.

    Have you looked at Nature Variety Instinct dry line? You might find something there, for example they are reporting their limited ingredient Duck as 0.3% Na =74mg/100kcals, limited ingredient turkey is 0.4 %=97mg/100 kcals Ultimate protein Duck 0.4% =89/100kcals. If you think one of the Natures Variety products would work check with the company to make sure the website info is accurate and check with your vet.

    #104470 Report Abuse

    pitlove
    Member

    Hi Lori-

    I second everything that Aimee said. It is a myth that carbs feed yeast.

    Also this might seem silly, but have you asked the MedVet Cardio doctor what food he would recommend?

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    aimee
    Member

    Hi Pitlove,
    The vet gave her a list .. from a previous post today “I know the low sodium list made from the Cardiology dept from Medvet -Cincinnati uses the milligrams per Kcal”

    I believe it is this list she has:
    http://massvetcardiology.com/Data/resources/feedingthecardiacp/Medvet__Cincinnati__Heart_Friendly_Low_Sodium_Dog_Diets.pdf

    I think the problem is she was looking for other options that met her criteria of grain free and low carbohydrate.

    Lori J
    I can’t reconcile the % values for sodium to the caloric values.. I’m having to make some assumptions but what I calculate is so different from what they are reporting. Hopefully the company can explain

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    Lori J
    Member

    Heres the kicker~ I think that maybe Ted has the yeast over growth inside his body and not just on his skin ~ he was on antibiotics a few months ago for a ruptured Cyst. I have been looking at the Calf Naturals also ~ I think that the kangaroo & Lentils may be a good start and may cover all the bases~ The med vet Dr is not Ted’s Cardio Dr ~ just a list I found online. When I asked Ted’s Cardio~ he just said he can have reg diet but some foods have way more sodium than others and I just want to stick on the lower side. Thanks so much for all your input. I really appreciate it!! I have spent the last few days trying read up allergies/ types of yeast/remedies/foods ~ its been crazy!

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    #104476 Report Abuse

    pitlove
    Member

    Thank you for clearing that up Aimee! Looks as though that is a very comprehensive list of foods to choose from. All of them commercially available.

    Lori I see you’re looking into a food on that list. Hopefully it satisfies everything needed for your dogs health. Best of luck!

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    aimee
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    Hi Lori,
    I think you are referring to Candida when you say you think your dog has yeast overgrowth inside his body. Candida normally an innocuous inhabitant of the bowel can invade other areas. Occasionally a dog can get Candida in the urinary tract, seen secondary to Diabetes for example. Candida inside the body is very rare and almost always occurs secondary to some other illness. You’ll have signs like fever, abdominal pain, weight loss, lack of appetite .. these dogs are very very ill and usually die.

    That said some years back a few loud voices attributed a myriad of problems including allergies to “yeast overgrowth” in the bowel. The idea has been abandoned by nearly all medical personnel because there are no medical finding to support the concept. A few people are holding tight to the idea despite lack of evidence that it occurs.

    There is so much misinformation out there….be careful when researching as it is easy to go down the wrong rabbit hole

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