Fromm Gold Dog Food (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★☆

Fromm Gold Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Fromm Gold product line includes seven dry dog foods, three claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages, two for growth, and two for adult maintenance.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Fromm Gold Adult
  • Fromm Gold Puppy (4.5 stars)
  • Fromm Gold Small Breed Adult
  • Fromm Gold Large Breed Puppy
  • Fromm Gold Weight Management
  • Fromm Gold Large Breed Adult (3.5 stars)
  • Fromm Gold Reduced Activity and Senior (3.5 stars)

Fromm Gold Adult was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Fromm Gold Adult

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 27% | Fat = 18% | Carbs = 48%

Ingredients: Duck, chicken meal, chicken, brown rice, pearled barley, oatmeal, menhaden fish meal, chicken fat, lamb, potatoes, dried tomato pomace, dried whole egg, salmon oil, cheese, flaxseed, brewers dried yeast, alfalfa meal, carrots, lettuce, celery, chicken cartilage, monocalcium phosphate, salt, potassium chloride, dl-methionine, l-tryptophan, taurine, chicory root extract, calcium sulfate, Yucca schidigera extract, sodium selenite, sorbic acid (preservative), vitamins, minerals, probiotics

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 3.9%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis24%16%NA
Dry Matter Basis27%18%48%
Calorie Weighted Basis23%37%41%

The first ingredient in this dog food is duck. Although it is a quality item, raw duck contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient includes chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The third ingredient is chicken, another quality raw item.

The fourth ingredient is brown rice, a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) can be fairly easy to digest. However, aside from its natural energy content, rice is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fifth ingredient is barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. However, aside from its energy content, this cereal grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient is oatmeal, a whole-grain product made from coarsely ground oats. Oatmeal is naturally rich in B-vitamins, dietary fiber and can be (depending upon its level of purity) gluten-free.

The seventh ingredient includes menhaden fish meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Menhaden are small ocean fish related to herring. They’re rich in protein and omega-3 fatty acids. What’s more, in their mid-depth habitat, menhaden are not exposed to mercury contamination as can be typical with deep water species.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

The eighth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The ninth ingredient is lamb, another quality raw item.

With six notable exceptions

First, tomato pomace is a controversial ingredient, a by-product remaining after processing tomatoes into juice, soup and ketchup.

Many praise tomato pomace for its high fiber and nutrient content, while others scorn it as an inexpensive pet food filler.

Just the same, there’s probably not enough tomato pomace here to make much of a difference.

Next, flaxseed is one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

In addition, brewers yeast can be a controversial item. Although it’s a by-product of the beer making process, this ingredient is rich in minerals and other healthy nutrients.

Fans believe yeast repels fleas and supports the immune system.

Critics argue yeast ingredients can be linked to allergies. This may be true, but (like all allergies) only if your particular dog is allergic to the yeast itself.

In addition, a vocal minority insists yeast can increase the risk of developing the life-threatening condition known as bloat. However, this is a claim we’ve not been able to scientifically verify.

In any case, unless your dog is specifically allergic to it, yeast can still be considered a nutritious additive.

What’s more noteworthy here is that brewers yeast contains about 48% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

Next, alfalfa meal is high in plant protein (about 18%) and fiber (25%), this hay-family item is more commonly associated with horse feeds.

In addition, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

And lastly, although the vitamins and minerals added to this product are not detailed, we’re reassured to find a detailed list of naturally present nutrients on the company’s website.

Fromm Gold Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Fromm Gold looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 27%, a fat level of 18% and estimated carbohydrates of about 48%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 28% and a mean fat level of 16%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 48% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 59%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the flaxseed, brewers yeast and alfalfa meal, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Fromm Gold Dog Food is a plant-based kibble using a moderate amount of duck and chicken meal as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Those looking for a nice wet food to go with this kibble may wish to visit our review of Fromm Gold Nutritionals Canned Dog Food.

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Notes and Updates

10/18/2014 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
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  • Cindy

    Do peas or potatoes get sprayed or develop problems, you bet they do. Grain free is not always better. Many are filled with peas & potatoes.

  • Boxer mom

    Thank you so much for your advice. It’s greatly appreciated

  • Boxers6

    I had the same problem with my girl. Horrible ear issues, with the hair on the tips of her natural ears crusty and missing from all the itching. She was about 2 when it all started.Vet had me trying all kinds of different grain free food. It would help for awhile some longer than others but then I had to switch. I finally found California Natural Kangaroo and she has been on it for almost 2 years with no issues. I also add Grizzley Pollock oil to her food, I started this in 2013. She now has no itching, no dry skin, she looks wonderful. I hope this helps because I know how frustrated and discouraged I felt. This picture was taken 2 days ago.

  • Bob K

    Harley – Use the recommendations that are on the bag as a guideline. This can vary from brand and mfg. Measure the food – don’t guess. Is your dog underweight? Overweight? How much exercise does it get? What about other food – treats, human food etc…….. How are the poops? Just because your dog will eat all day, do not feed them as much as they want. Some labs are 40 lbs and some are 80lbs. Has your vet made any comments on the dogs weight?

  • theBCnut

    It varies a LOT dog to dog, so no one can answer that for you. The best amount is the amount that keeps your dog thin, but not boney. Think athlete.

  • Harley Alyssa Mosley

    I have a 2-3 year old chocolate lab and was wondering what would be the best amount to feed her/

  • Shirley Bodine

    I have a 3 year old malti-zu and she weighs 4 pounds and I have a 13 year old Maltese who weighs 4 pounds, he use to weigh 5 ponds but has dropped a pound but my vet said he healthy and he is fine with that weight but he also said if he gained a pound that would be good too, I’ve been feeding them Wellness dry grain food and was wanting to try Fromm. Has anybody had a good response with this for little dogs?
    Thank you,
    Shirley

  • Suzi Ironmonger

    The grains in silos are chemically treated to kill off insects and rodents, as well as to help prevent fungal and mold growth. But still some spores survive and cause problems, plus the chemical residue. This residue can concentrate in some areas more then others and can be a factor in why some batches of kibble cause toxic reactions in our pets (diarrhea, vomiting, etc.) And even if this grain is not in your dog food, it may well be the food source for the protein that is..

  • Sarah Turpin

    Grain Free is the better way to go, simply because grains develop mold and fungus in the silos…many dogs have or develop allergies to grains.

  • Fishermanroly

    If you eat brown rice , white. Rice wild rice etc. You are also ingesting arsenic so i don’t think it’s an issue

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi-
    Have you tried adding plain canned pumpkin to her food while transitioning? Also adding probiotics can help as well. Good luck to you!

  • Jessica Clark

    My 18 week old Dobe puppy switched from wellness comp. health large breed puppy- to Fromm large breed puppy- granted we switched in a bit of a rush but it’s been two weeks and her bms are just not getting solid enough. I’m probably going to switch her to another food after this bag if it doesn’t clear up. The other thing was I didn’t see a thing about DHA on the bag for large breed pup.

  • Mike D’Innocenzio

    So what is the latest with brown rice and it’s arsenic contents? Is there enough for it to even be an issue?

  • Boxer mom

    Thank you

  • Betsy Greer

    Until I found my dog’s problem ingredients, he got them also. Yes, most definitely, ear infections can be related to food intolerance.

  • Lindsayface47

    This isn’t food related, but I highly recommend Zymox Otic for your pup’s ear infections. My Anatolian has had them for ten years, and it’s the only thing that clears them up. It’s also super cheap!

  • theBCnut

    Dr Mike assumes a certain ash level and his figure is in dry matter. Fromm likely does their figures including the moisture content of the kibble.

  • Mike D’Innocenzio

    Fromm actually reveals it’s carbohydrate content at 42. Is it incorrect that you have it at 48?

  • andrea

    why does the fromm weight management not show what star rating it is?

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  • SP

    @ Judy,
    I was just about to post what Crazy4cats said, but she already said it all.

    Would you want to eat the same bowl of cereal for every meal, every day for the rest of your life?
    You would miss out on some nutrients.

    When the existing bag is 3/4 empty, buy a new flavor within the same brand or try a new brand altogether.

    I rotate between 3 or 4 flavors & brands.

    Slowly transition to the new bag over a week (a sudden change will result in diarrhea):
    Days 1 & 2: in each meal, 3/4 old food + 1/4 new food
    Days 3 & 4: in each meal, 1/2 old food + 1/2 new food
    Days 5 & 6: in each meal, 1/2 old food + 3/4 new food
    Days 7 on: 100% new food

  • dchassett

    Oh Jan! No I did not already know this. Thank you sooooo much! I wish customer service had told me that, I would have purchased the granules. I’m going to give them a call because I specifically spoke to them about the yeast, I don’t understand why she just didn’t tell me that the granules didn’t include the yeast. Darn!!!!!

  • Shawna

    So what all does he react to? Garlic and legumes/lentils and? Is it all legumes/lentils or just specific ones, or unknown?

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    You may already know this, but the Bug Off granules, not the chews, doesn’t have the yeast included….just 100% air dried garlic.

  • dchassett

    Hi Betsy. I just came across your post and wanted to mention to you that I purchased the Sprintime Bug Off Garlic also, I spoke to someone in customer service about this product, in particular because it contains Nutritional Yeast Culture, because of Katie and all of her allergies and intolerances. I was told that just because she’s allergic to yeast, she should do fine with the Nutritional Yeast Culture. Well, no actually she didn’t. As you know I have two other dogs so Hannah and Lola continue on with the Bug Off Garlic because neither have any allergies. Katie I continue to give her raw minced garlic as I did before and does fine. So, the reason for my post to you is that I am wondering if it is the garlic Sam is having an issue with or is it the yeast in the Bug Off.

  • Cyndi

    Hey Shawna! There is someone named Tina who posted a question on the off topic thread regarding her dog and kidney disease. I think she could use your help! :) Hers is like the 2nd new post down I believe.

  • Betsy Greer

    It was the Springtime Bug Off Garlic that pushed him over the edge. Then when I switched him to the next food, Canine Caviar, one of the only two he could eat, he reacted. When I checked the ingredients, sure enough, it contained whole clove garlic.

  • Kimi_Forever

    Thanks. I became really passionate about what i fed my last dog after i read about whats actually in a lot of pet foods. I tried to do the best i knew how to for my last dog, but didnt know about this site — i still didnt do too bad and am 95% sure my dog had a healthy gut even though i did not do a rotaional diet, i was lucky. And just hope i get lucky again having a dog that can tolerate whatever i choose to feed, like my last, but know that may not be the case.

    I am so afraid of that. Even if i dont end up with dog with food intolerances i was worried about what if they simply wont eat what i’ve picked out! I have a plan and hopefully it works if it doesnt ill have to re-adjust when i find out what i am working with…

  • Shawna

    You are the second person I’ve seen mentioning their pup having a garlic intolerance. That would SUCK!! :(

  • Betsy Greer

    Oh! No kidding!? That’s great that you’re doing so much research now.

    You’re definitely off to a great start. My only concern would be that as much as we might want to feed certain foods, things sometimes don’t work out as planned. I never anticipated having a dog with food intolerances and I’ve had to be very flexible with Sam, my Golden who’s just shy of two years old. He’s intolerant of fish and garlic and he gets gassy on foods that contain chickpeas or lentils. But, then I have a two year old Cavalier that can eat almost anything. I too had great plans for what I’d feed them both and what ended up with, for Sam in particularly, is vastly different than what I initially had in mind.

  • Kimi_Forever

    And i just want to say how much help some of the more regular members posts have been for me. I used to feed my old dog EVO dog food (before PG bought it) and then switched to merrick GF after they did. But i did not rotate my food or add in canned toppers or any toppers, i thought it was too expensive and not needed. But i do believe my dog had a healthy gut because i would buy her different dog food every now and then because i always felt the same thing was so boring (i just believed EVO was the best i knew of at the time, kinda like Orijen is my fav now) and she never had a problem regardless if i slow transitioned or not — the dog was always really healthy. But after reading all this info on this site the past few months it really opened my eyes to what i always really felt was best, i.e. high protein low carb, variety, etc…I am really thankful for you all!

  • Kimi_Forever

    Yes that is the list i have. Fromm’s GF surf and turf has changed from 4.5 star to a 5 star since HDM last did that list. and all fromms other GF’s got changed to 4.5 instead of 4, I do not know why….And i know the Orijen LBP was not on the list, and i was upset by that because Orijen seems to be my favorite brand, but HDM informed me that Orijen LBP has been recently reformulated and it’s almost acceptable, and that if i add in fresh meat toppers or canned food meant for intermittent feeding i could reduce it to an acceptable level (however i cant find a canned intermittent feeding formula that does not have Carrageenan in it that is not manufactured by evangers, booo). As long as i was rotating the Orijen LBP with other foods safely within that range. Which both the Core Puppy and Surf and Turf are…I FEEL like i have a decently solid plan of attack now having lurked around this site for a little while reading posts, etc…But i am still confused on how to figure out how much of a can to feed or how much real meat i should add in, Lol…Because i know that as well as calcium levels, overfeeding a LBP can be bad too.

  • theBCnut

    I don’t have large breeds anymore so some of my choices might not be ok for your situation. Here’s some of my list
    Nature’s Logic
    Annamaet
    Back to Basics
    Nature’s Variety Instinct
    Earthborn Holistic Grain Free
    Some of them are 35% and above, some of them are close to 35%. I wouldn’t reject a 34% food and I might even feed a 30% food or even a little lower, if I felt that it was a very superior food, since I can always add more raw foods to boost the protein. I just haven’t seen any foods that fit into that category and work for my current dog with issues. I like foods like Fromm and NutriSource as part of a rotational diet, but not long term. In fact NutriSource is my go to food for transitioning a new dog, but I do try to get them on to the next food before too long.

  • theBCnut

    Is this the list from HDM that you have? This is the newest list. https://docs.google.com/viewer?srcid=0BwApI_dhlbnFTXhUdi1KazFzSUk&pid=explorer&efh=false&a=v

  • Kimi_Forever

    Actually I do not have an Akita Pup yet. I am still in the process of selecting a breeder and waiting for my puppy. I am just trying to plan ahead so i know what to do before the pup gets here, start off on the right foot so to speak….I have read the first few pages of HDM’s LBP thread on nutrition and have used her list and her advice to help me select three foods i feel comfortable with that also meet the criteria for a LBP. I selected Fromm GF surf and turf, Wellness Core Puppy, and Orijen LBP (based on HDM’s advice on it’s calcium content) for my puppy foods. I plan on mixing petcurean Go! fit+free canned and fromm Gold canned as 20% toppers with the Core Puppy and Fromm Surf and Turf (as those canned foods have no carrageenan in them, was hard to find ones that dont). And plan to mix Fresh meat toppers with the Orijen LBP to help bring down it’s almost acceptable calcium content (per HDM’s advice)…However i just dont know how much canned and how much fresh meat i need to add to make up for the 20%. As like i said i dont want to overfeed…But that is my current plan of attack for when i bring my puppy home. Just trying to make sure i am doing what’s best! Thanks for your input!

  • Betsy Greer

    OK, I went back through your posts and it sounds like you have an Akita pup that’s probably about four months old right? Sticking to no more than 20% with toppers avoids throwing off the nutritional balance of the kibble. Great toppers for your pup would be fresh lean meats and fresh eggs.

    Have you visited the forums area of this site for more information about LBP nutrition?

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/large-and-giant-breed-puppy-nutrition/

  • Kimi_Forever

    That sounds like a good idea, and has been suggested to me here before. And i intend on doing it. However I am going to be doing it for a Large breed puppy and i do not know how much to add to their kibble and how much kibble to take away. I was told that 20% is a good topper amount for a meal. And it’s easy to figure out how to take away 20% of a dogs kibble but i dont know how to figure out how much real meat or canned food to add to make up for that 20% reduction….If that makes sense…I am concerned because i do not want to over feed my large breed puppy and cause fast growth by doing so…

  • Betsy Greer

    That’s are good protein levels Kimi. You can, and should, boost protein with fresh whole food ingredients like tinned sardines and fresh eggs several times weekly.

  • Kimi_Forever

    Sorry to be off topic. But might i ask you, if you dont mind sharing, what pet foods you use in your rotation that are all over 35% protein? Two i’ve selected are both at 34% protein and one is at 30% (and is made by fromm) which i think should be good enough. It seems hard for me to find a company i can feel like i trust that also has high protein. But i am just curious as to what you personally use if you dont mind sharing.

    Thanks in advance.

  • theBCnut

    The thing with citric acid is that some people believe that adding water to a food with citric acid in it may cause bloat in bloat prone dogs. Science has not been able to replicate this. Bloat is likely a very complicated issue, where multiple things have to happen at the right time to make bloat occur. I say this because everything that they have tried to prove as a cause of bloat has not tested out.

  • stephspov

    :) Keep me posted.

  • Judy C

    I was considering Wellness, and you pushed me over the edge. Came back with a bag of Wellness Core Grain Free for Large Breed today. Keeping my fingers crossed that he likes it. Thanks for the help.

  • Crazy4cats

    Yahoo! I’m glad you finally found a good fit.

  • Crazy4cats

    The main fear with adding water to the kibble is that it will spoil faster if not eaten right away. Otherwise, it is a healthy addition. In my opinion adding canned, dehydrated, eggs, sardines or healthy left overs to dry food is a great idea. I don’t consider it a treat when I add it to my dogs food. I consider it making their dry food more healthy. Canned food typically contains more protein and less carbs, preservatives and fewer additives. I know this is all so confusing and frustrating at times, but it sounds like you are on the right track. Good luck!

  • stephspov

    From what I understand, it is bad if they don’t eat it all, then you have to throw it away. You don’t want it to sit around and it goes bad. I don’t have leftovers anymore with Wellness Core. I don’t put enough to make it mushy, just a spray to moisten it. This way it’s still crunch on the inside and a little moist on the outside. I too have read, and read, and read, to the point of many headaches. Think about it, the moist food has water in it, so technically you are adding water. ;) I have found, when I treat my dogs to moist food, in the past, my boxer would literally eat around and spit out the dry kibble, but with this food, he does’t do that anymore. He eats it all! No issues… I just wish I followed my “motherly” instinct years ago and switched to a high quality grain free. I probably would have spared my boy years of stomach issues. Now, it took a couple of weeks on the food for his body to show the major improvement, but he definitely improved!

  • Boxer mom

    Thanks again, I have to heat kibble to get them to eat. I put a spoon of wellness can food in and mix it good. I would like not to have to do that. I have heard many times not good to dampen or wet food because the Citric Acid in food i think? I have read so many things i’m confusing myself ;(

  • stephspov

    Want to get rid of green smoke ( I have a boxer and know! He has cleared a room in the past!) Try Wellness Core Grain Free (cheaper through Chewy.com or Amazon Prime then in the store). They do not need the rice. They need the right ingredients with pre & probiotics. Also, Pet-Valus own Performatrin Ultra Grain Free is an excellent choice.

  • stephspov

    I would definitely try the Wellness Grain Free! He is a little gassy, but nothing like he use to be. I think it’s mainly when he gets into something ;). I don’t regularly add moist food, but have done so for a treat. I put a tablespoon and mix it up real well. He doesn’t realize it’s not a lot, just that he has a treat. Sometimes I sprinkle a little water on his kibble. It brings the smell out more. Also, my boxer would leave his food for hours, sometimes an entire day before eating it. Now seeing how he eats this food, I believe it may have been causing stomach issues, and that’s why he wasn’t eating it. He also did well on Pet-Valu’s own Performatrin Ulta Grain Free (has pre & probiotics). Since I have a puppy (mini Australian Shepherd) that I have on Wellness Core Puppy, I wanted to get them on the same food. It’s wonderful, I have it on autoship through Chewy.com, and if I am off on my calculations, I can postpone delivery (they notify you that your autoship is coming up and ask if you are ready or need to postpone) Give it a try! You will be shocked how the flatulence decreases (unless it’s the moist food doing it!! :) Keep me posted! Steph :)

  • Boxer mom

    Thanks so much for sharing!!! Right now they are eating Wellness Complete deboned chicken and oatmeal. I tried several and this is the only one they would eat more than twice. I have noticed that they are gassy the last few days. This kind isn’t grain free but, maybe that’s what I will try as they are now snubbing their nose at it. They been eating it about two weeks now. I have always added a veggie to there food peas or green beans but they are insisting on adding can food to it before they will eat it ;( Mine are ages 1.5, 6 & 11 don’t really have any weight issues. Should I try the core grain free? Thanks again. Oh I should add that I tried the fromm and they didn’t like it. Also tried the wellness fish and they didn’t like that either.

  • stephspov

    I know I responded up top, but omg! My vets all said “chicken” .. well, it wasn’t the chicken! it was most definitely a grain/gluten issue! Also, remember that the protein levels are higher because of ingredients like peas and other non meat sources (which I learned from here). So, just because it may list a high protein source, doesn’t mean it’s not all meat protein. Take it from another boxer mom. It took 8 years of listening to recommendations from my vet before doing what I thought may help all along…. I wish I didn’t wait so long! If you try another grain free, again, make sure it has pre & probiotics (pre-chicory root) and the pro is listed with the long names at the end of the ingredients (CRUCIAL with boxers!). Good luck!!

  • stephspov

    For 8 years I tried different high quality food for my boxer Hooch. He never had solid waste and had major stomach issues. Every so often I would wake up to quite a mess downstairs that stunk the house out and ruined a couple of steam cleaners…. Two different vets said no way was it a grain issue, but most likely a protein source issue. I finally switched to high quality grain free and he is doing GREAT!! For the first time he has solid poo. I have him on Wellness Core Reduced Fat (because he is older and a little over weight). It has both pre & probiotics, which I feel is essential for a boxer. Oh, and he loves it! Even the Reduced Formula. It is expensive, but I buy it on Chewy.com and it’s a lot cheaper and worth the price! Do yourself a favor and try it. POI, Not all Grain Free high end dog food is created equal. I tried Merrick with him, and (although many people love it) it gave my boxer the runs.

  • stephspov

    I really like Wellness Core Grain Free. It’s not specified for large breed, but if you check the protein content, it’s above average. My boxer is 75lbs and doing great on it. (My guy is on reduced fat :))

  • theBCnut

    Then Fromm ought to be a good choice.

  • Boxer mom

    Vet suggested low protein. I choose the duck n sweet potato because vet said could also be allergic to chicken. Plus they don’t do good on with potatoes.

  • theBCnut

    Does your dog need low protein? One of my critetia for food is that the protein is over 30% and almost all of the foods I use have a protein over 35%. Even then, I add meat toppers, fish, eggs, etc. Fromm is a good food from a good company, but I would rather have more meat in a kibble, especially long term.

  • Boxer mom

    I got Fromm duck n sweet potato. I hope it’s ok. Has low protein and no yeast in it.

  • theBCnut

    One of the foods that I really like for dogs with sensitive stomachs is NutriSource. It is generally well tolerated and pretty easy to transition to.

  • Boxer mom

    Would really appreciate some suggestions. My youngest has had repeated ear/skin infections from yeast. Vet says could be environmental. I’m convinced it’s from the food because all three of them have recently refused to stop eating. Vet suggested science diet sensitive stomach. They wouldn’t touch it. I’m ok they didn’t because that is not a brand I prefer to use. Please help!

  • Crazy4cats

    Fromm is definitely a great company. However, It is recommended to switch brands every now and then anyway. The diet rotation is talked about in the FAQ tab up above. The hard part of buying large breed dog food is that different companies have different philosophies on what is best for large breeds. Some companies large breed food will be high in protein and low in fat, while others will agree with the vet and their recipes will be lower protein for their large breed food. You will have to do some research and figure out what you are going to look for and always check the ingredients and guaranteed analysis panels. I finally figured out you can’t just look at the packaging and marketing of the food. Good luck!

  • Judy C

    Thank you….he’s lots of fun. Didn’t mean to put up the large pic. Never posted before and thought I was doing the icon. I did try samples of Orijen and Acana, but he turned his nose up at them….sigh. My vet said to stick to a large breed food which really limits choices in the grain free foods…so confused. Guess I have more studying to do. I’d rather stick with someone who makes and packages their own food.

  • Crazy4cats

    Oh man, what a beautiful dog! I am going to make an educated guess that it is rated lower due to a lower protein percentage. Take a look at how the food is rated in the FAQ (frequently asked questions) tab. The rating system is explained there. There are some groups of people that believe large breed dogs should have lower amounts of protein. However, many posters on this site do not agree with that theory and think that they should be on high protein and low carb diets.

  • Judy C

    I too would like to know why Fromm Large Breed is rated with only 3.5
    stars. My collie is about ready to go to an adult food. I’ve been
    feeding him the Large Breed Puppy. I really just planned on moving to
    the Large Breed Adult, but now I’m not so sure. Why the low rating???

  • Boxer mom

    My dogs are currently eating royal canin and I would like to switch them to this. They have sensitive stomached is there a certain formula of Fromm you would suggest?

  • Mike D’Innocenzio

    Why is the Large Breed Adult rated at a lower 3.5? Also, is the ash content taken into consideration when rating? I know of a couple of 5 stars that don’t disclose their ash content. Just for that alone they should be knocked down regardless of their ingredients.

  • glock22

    Switched from Blue Buffalo to Fromm two weeks ago. My Lab seems much more energetic and goes crazy for this food. Blue is a great food, but this one seems even better for the same amount of money per bag.

  • glock22

    My lab has never had any problems switching foods. I changed his food cold turkey from Blue Buffalo to Fromm and he was fine. He seems to be more energetic on the grain free food.

  • aimee

    Of course overall health plays a role in arsenic toxicosis in dogs. When ingesting levels in the mg/kg range dogs with debilitation or dehydration will be more susceptible than their healthy counterparts.

    However the levels in rice, for this species, are so teeny tiny I can’t see this as anything but a non issue.

    I’ve always said eating is risky business and if you feel uncomfortable with rice than by all means don’t feed it!

    I didn’t comment on the digestive issue, but when the OP wrote green smoke I assumed he meant smelly gas not diarrhea… shrug

  • dchassett

    Aimee. I think one would have to take into consideration the health of the dog, any underlying conditions and the longevity of the dogs life. Is there really a legitimate reason for feeding a dog rice every single day (twice a day if you divide their food) day in day out for the rest of their lives just to deal with diarrhea issues when there are so many others ways that this issue can be dealt with. Anyway, I just wouldn’t chance it. I’m not saying everybody should avoid rice, it’s just my opinion. One time they say something and then assure you of there test results and a few years later they say “Oops! Never Mind”. Let’s not forget how they scared everyone about the evils of eggs and then did a 180.

  • dchassett

    Absolutely!

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Michael, for digestion problems, I would recommend digestive enzymes and probiotics. Not rice.

  • aimee

    Hi Michael,
    In regards to arsenic in rice, yes it was found in rice for human consumption. Is it a problem for dogs? No, I’d say it is not.

    The problems found in humans with long term low level exposure have not been replicated in dogs. And as a one time toxic exposure a 20 lb dog would need to eat 5000 cups cooked rice at one time.

    Different things have different toxicity levels in different species.

    I would caution you though,when feeding a pup not to have more than 10% of the calories come from an unbalanced source such as rice.

  • LabsRawesome

    Yes, it is. Instead of rice try digestive enzymes, and Probiotics.

  • Michael Farmer

    Michael Farmer
    re: the arsenic content of rice. We started adding cooked long grain rice to our puppy’s Fromm’s Gold Large Breed dry food to reduce digestion problems (aka, green smoke). Is arsenic content a concern using rice sold for human consumption?

  • InkedMarie

    I just had a flashback to when we bought a failed show prospect fox terrier. I had no idea what the food was she gave us but it was in a paper bag and the outside of the bag was greasy. I threw it out and she went on Eukanuba with no upset at all. This was the 90;s and Euk was a high quality food back then.

  • losul

    If it’s any further consolation to you, when we first got our dog, we didn’t know what he had been used to eating, so no transition period. So we started with a 4 star kibble, and after about 4 weeks, then transitioned to 1/2 raw, and 1/2 the same kibble. He had gas that would knock a buzzard off of a gut wagon, that lasted the entire first 8 weeks or so we had him, before it finally began subsiding. After maybe 12 weeks total, the gas had completely or near completely stopped. The entire time he showed no obvious signs of discomfort, although we always wondered. The farting was the only issue we had other than some initial eye buggering after we began raw. After about 6 weeks, no more eye buggars either.

    Fast forward to today, we feed him about 50% homemade raw of a wide variety of ingredients, about 15% various canned foods, and about 33% various kibbles. Seldom now, I think I have detected a faint fart odor when he is laying within a couple of feet, but nothing at all like those first weeks.

    So just saying, as long as she’s not having other issues and she’s not showing signs of obvious discomfort, poop is O.K., no vomiting, etc.. the passage of time just might ease the passage of gas.

  • Michelle Jones-Smith

    Thank you everyone, I feel a lot better after hearing your comments!

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Michelle-
    I agree with the others. You’ve made a big switch and it might take a little more time for your dog’s system to get used to it. Mean while, have you tried to add any digestive enzymes to the food? I notice that it makes a big difference in my dogs’ gas when I remember to add it. Especially when switching foods. I’m not at home and I do not remember the name of the one I’ve used. But there are many good ones. Also Honest Kitchen makes a supplement called Perfect Form that contains some enzymes as well as other ingredients that help to transition to a new food. Another thing is you might try adding a topper to make the new food more appealing. I have labs and they love everything so I have not experienced them not being excited to eat! But, have definitely experienced the gas. lol! Good luck.

  • Pattyvaughn

    That’s a huge step up in quality and it may take a while for her body to adjust to having that much protein. Digestive enzymes and probiotics help speed up the process.

  • dchassett

    Hi Michelle, IMO you need to give it more time. Barring any actual allergies to an ingredient in the food, you are probably dealing with gas and may even experience other things going on with your dog as she detoxes from the inferior much lower protein she was on before but two weeks is way to soon to assume that the food is not good for her. I agree with losul about why she doesn’t seem as excited about her food. Most of the lower end foods as you were feeding are chock full of carbs and ingredients to entice the dog to eat that food so that you will feel they are really loving it and you will continue to buy it. Give it some time before you decide it’s not good for her. It may be something in the food but too soon to tell. Give her gut a while to adjust. Anyway that’s been my experience through the years for what its worth.

  • Michelle Jones-Smith

    Thank you!

  • losul

    It’s possible there’s something in the food that is just not going to agree with her, but IMO, you should give it some more time, another 4 to 6 weeks or so as long as there aren’t any other issues happening, the food is fresh, and she is not eating too fast, and/or too much, or losing too much weight. Hopefully the gas will begin to subside as her systems adjust., if not then it might be time to look for another selection. There’s quite a bit of difference ingredient wise between a dog food such as pedigree and one such as Fromm. So quite a jump. It might have been better to not make such a drastic jump to start with, but since you already have, I would give it some more time.

    As to not being as excited about eating the new food, keep in mind that many of the lowly foods have various palatibility enhancers included in the meals to entice a dog to eat them. These won’t be included in the manufacturers ingredient panel when they are added to meals by a supplier. These palatibility enhancers may even be addictive?

  • Michelle Jones-Smith

    I just switched my lab a couple weeks ago from Pedigree to FROMM because I wanted her to have a better quality food but ever since we switched her she’s had really bad gas and doesn’t get as excited to eat as she used to. We switched her over slowly and it has been a couple of weeks now of eating only FROMM. I know that switching from a poor quality food to a better quality will effect her but should it take this long or does it sound like there may be something in the food that doesn’t agree with her?

  • PuppyLover12

    Did you talk to the vet? Sometimes an ingredient in the food may react to an unnoticed health issue. It happened once with a food with potatoes in it. The dog had a certain kind of cancer that the potatoes made worse. I hope your puppy is ok!

  • Tony Sobczak

    The best thing about Fromms is that I have been able to switch varieties without the normal transition. My Doxy gets a nice variety and so far likes each of the ones I’ve tried. None have posed any problems. She maintains a healthy weight nice shiney coat and good digestion.

  • Tony Sobczak

    You usually get what you pay for. For the quality of the food I think the price for Fromms is quite reasonable, and my Doxy has done really well with it.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I have used the Fromm Gold Senior recently and it is definitely smaller than Acana’s kibble. Of course their Small Breed version is, well, small lol. I used their Gold Adult quite awhile ago and I don’t remember it being as large as Acana, but it could’ve changed since I used it last.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I actually think sandy was just making an observation about Wellness Core’s new formula….but I’m sure she will speak for herself soon. :)