4Health Dog Food (Dry)


Rating: ★★★★☆

4Health Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The 4Health product line includes nine dry dog foods.

Although each appears to be designed for a specific life stage, we were unable to find AAFCO nutritional profile recommendations for these dog foods on the product’s web page.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • 4Health Puppy Formula
  • 4Health Small Bites Adult
  • 4Health Large Breed Adult
  • 4Health Mature Adult (3 stars)
  • 4Health Chicken and Rice Adult
  • 4Health Salmon and Potato Adult
  • 4Health Lamb and Rice Adult (3 stars)
  • 4Health Healthy Weight Adult (3 stars)
  • 4Health Performance Formula Adult (5 stars)

4Health Chicken and Rice Adult formula was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

4Health Chicken and Rice Adult

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 29% | Fat = 17% | Carbs = 46%

Ingredients: Chicken, chicken meal, cracked pearled barley, millet, brewers rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), dried plain beet pulp, natural chicken flavor, flaxseed, fish meal, potassium chloride, salt, choline chloride, dried chicory root, glucosamine hydrochloride, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, Yucca schidigera extract, copper proteinate, ferrous sulfate, zinc sulfate, copper sulfate, potassium iodide, thiamine mononitrate, manganese proteinate, manganous oxide, chondroitin sulfate, ascorbic acid, vitamin A supplement, biotin, niacin, calcium pantothenate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, riboflavin, vitamin D supplement, folic acid

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.4%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis26%15%NA
Dry Matter Basis29%17%46%
Calorie Weighted Basis25%35%40%
Protein = 25% | Fat = 35% | Carbs = 40%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken. Although it is a quality item, raw chicken contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The third ingredient is barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. However, aside from its energy content, this cereal grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fourth ingredient is millet, a gluten-free grain harvested from certain seed grasses. Millet is hypoallergenic and naturally rich in B-vitamins and fiber as well as other essential minerals.

The fifth ingredient is brewers rice. Brewers rice is a cereal grain by-product consisting of the small fragments left over after milling whole rice. Aside from the caloric energy it contains, this item is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The seventh ingredient is beet pulp. Beet pulp is a controversial ingredient, a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing.

Some denounce beet pulp as an inexpensive filler while others cite its outstanding intestinal health and blood sugar benefits.

We only call your attention here to the controversy and believe the inclusion of beet pulp in reasonable amounts in most dog foods is entirely acceptable.

After the natural flavor, we find flaxseed, one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, we note the inclusion of fish meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

Unfortunately, this particular item is anonymous. Because various fish contain different types of fats, we would have preferred to have known the source species.

Next, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

4Health Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, 4Health Dog Food looks like an average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 29%, a fat level of 17% and estimated carbohydrates of about 46%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 27% and a mean fat level of 15%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 50% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 54%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

4Health is a plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of chicken, lamb or fish meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

4Health Dog Food
Recall History

The following list (if present) includes all dog food recalls since 2009 directly related to this product line. If there are no recalls listed in this section, we have not yet reported any events.

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Notes and Updates

12/13/2015 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  • theBCnut

    If the only change is the protein level, then you’re right, but increases in protein usually are accompanied by increases in fat, which does raise the caloric density of the food.

  • LabsRawesome

    Ainsworth makes 4health grain free turkey and potato, and the grain free beef and potato, and the grain free whitefish cat food. All the other 4health foods are made by Diamond. Merrick was bought out by Purina.

  • Ray S

    Yes I always do that when switching out food. She started having the runs from day one. We tried for over a week and it kept getting worse. Our dog has a picky diet though and somewhat sensitive stomach. The food looks good though and I checked the ingredients and it was similar to what she was having before. I ended up giving the bag away to someone who has another terrier and they did not have any problems with it.

  • LabsRawesome

    You have to do a gradual switch by mixing the old and new food together for 10 to 14 days.

  • Ray S

    My Boston Terrier didn’t like this food. I know a lot of people have had success with this brand but it made my dog’s poop runny. Switched back to her old food.

  • Pitlove

    High protein does not put weight back on dogs. You need to feed more calories than he is burning to help him gain weight. Best of luck.

  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll

    Just an FYI… TOTW is manufactured by Diamond. If you want to stay away from Diamond foods, I’d switch to something else.

  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll


  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll

    Do you have a link that proves Diamond does package those particular foods? I called the 800 number on the back of the bag, they confirmed that Ainsworth manufactures the Grain-Free Turkey & Potato, and Grain-Free Beef & Potato. I won’t feed my dog anything made by Diamond. Which is why we don’t feed TOTW.

  • DogFoodie

    Diamond co-packs quite a few, but not all, of the 4Health formulas.

  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll

    Wrong! Ainsworth manufactures 4Health Turkey & Potato and Beef & Potato. A simple Google search will prove that.

  • Alan Patrick

    would be nice if you could post a link to prove that

  • Alan Patrick

    Yes Diamond makes 4Health for TSC exclusively. I feed the Salmon and Potato to my Husky and he is doing fine with it.My 14 yr old dog is now on a high protein diet to try and put some weight back on him. My dogs for some reason will NOT eat any of the lamb dog foods. I am not sure why but they will turn their noses up at it.

  • Melanie Anne Miller

    I dont use Earthborne. I feed Taste of the Wild. But like LE51900, my dog with multiple allergies did poorly on 4Health. She loast almost all of her coat, dry skin with sores developed. She is a golden retriever so you can imagine what kind of fur loss it was. Since being put on TOTW she gas made a complete 180. I believe some dogs, probably a small minority dont do well on 4Health. THat being said,my other dogs did fine on it. However because it is impossible for me to keep her from stealing from another dog’s bowl occasionally. I just have decided to stay with TOTW. I do supplement with 4Health lamb and rice wet food and she seems to do very well with that.

  • Denise

    I’ve recently been giving my 3 dogs the 4Health grain free dry chicken and rotating with the turkey. One of my dogs has become very ill with severe gastroenteritis related to an allergy or intolerance to the food (ingredients). Now he’s on a special diet. He was previously eating Nature’s Recipe grain free and looking back it seems he did better on that food. If it is true that the 4Health s made by Diamond, I will discontinue giving it to my other 2 dogs. Does anyone know for sure who makes this food? I’m looking at giving them Merrick Limited or Acana Single Soure instead, and changing from fowl to lamb or salmon.

  • Mona Brallier

    I agree! We’ve always fed all 4 yes four of our German Shepherds 4 Health brand and have not had any problems….no I take that back we changed flavors and my weak stomach dogs got the runs….switched back no problem! My dogs cannot eat any greasy foods without getting the runs! Therefore, we’ve never really had any major issues or problems and they love it!

  • Jack Schulz


  • YoMama

    Or you can go to tractor supply; buy the 4health grain free food that this post is about for only $37.99 a bag/30 lbs!

  • Kane

    great, thanks.

  • Doug Bittinger

    I would think so: my Blondie Bear is a pit bull/Lab mix: very active. She does well with it. I pay about $32 for a 35 pound bag at Tractor Supply.

  • Kane

    Would this be a good food to feed a lab/retriever mix? How much would it cost?

  • Doug Bittinger

    Several years ago we switched our dogs from Science Diet to 4-Health grain-free. They have always eaten it without a problem. We started them with the Chicken and Rice formula because Cochise developed hypo-hypothyroidism and had gained a lot of weight. Once he was back to his proper weight and active again I switched them to the Salmon and Potato formula as a reward (as long as they remain active and keep the weight off) they LOVED it. Meals are always happy times, but now they get really excited. On my last kibble run (yesterday) Tractor Supply no longer had the salmon, so I got them the Duck and Potato. We have always been pleased with the results of this feed and the dogs enjoy eating it. While using it I have yet to see 4-Health on a recall alert. I’m no expert, but I have confidence in this brand.

  • Tanya Hahn

    Earthborn is a VERY GOOD all around pet food !! Another AMAZING brand is Zignature ! NEVER been on ANY RECALL LIST !!!!!!

  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll

    Just an FYI… the 4Health Grain Free Beef & Potato and Grain Free Turkey & Potato are NOT made by Diamond.

  • aimee

    Hi txn64,

    Though you may disagree with pitlove’s advice it is really good advice.

    Here is an article written by a board certified nutritionist that may help you understand why the current recommendations are to use a puppy food specifically geared for large breeds during the growth period of large breeds.


  • Pitlove

    I agree that LBP’s can be fed an adult maintenance food or even an all life stages formula so long as the calcium and phosphorus levels are controlled or safe, however a puppy food formulated specifically with those safe levels is no different aside from possibly a higher calorie content and even still it’s easy not to have an overweight pup with proper portion management.

    I’m glad you have not had issues with your GSD’s, however raising them for 35 years doesn’t automatically make you more knowledgable than anyone else and doesn’t mean you have nothing left to learn. My advice comes from research and the advice of veterinary nutritionists on how to properly feed a LBP.

    Thankfully for you, I was not offering you advice and you do not have to feed your dogs the way I’m suggesting. If you’d like to offer another opinion to someone who I have suggested a puppy food for, you are more than welcome to do so, but telling me I’m annoying doesn’t do much, as I’m not terribly concerned with your opinion of me.

    I don’t own a medium sized dog as all of mine are well over 50lbs at mature weight (AmStaff and Lab) and puppy food worked just fine for them.

  • LE51900

    You’re wrong. I could completely delete Earthborn’s name and still leave this post here and it stand truthful. I’m sorry you are too closed minded to see that some may have a bad experience with the 4Health brand. Not all people can tolerate certain foods, the same goes for animals.
    Thanks for being concerned about the welfare of my pet over the brand of food……oh wait, I’m mistaken, you weren’t! Post the link to your facebook group, I would be very happy to come and repost my post there, minus the name of the new food. My dog is doing SO much better now that he is off of 4Health. He eats the food I put down everyday, with no leftover. That NEVER EVER happened with 4Health. When you posting such things as you have, it is like saying that people with uncommon allergies are liars just because a majority of others don’t have their particular allergy. You want me to post all my Tractor Supply receipts for all the 4Health food I purchased as well? I can accommodate.

  • txn64

    You are one of the most annoying people I have seen on here.. Please stop telling people how they need to stay on puppy food. Large Breed puppies need to be on Adult food for the exact reasons your specified. To avoid Pano and joint issues. I have been raising German Shepherds for 35 years and have never fed my pups puppy food.. I have very healthy dogs and have never had Pano or Hip Problems. Leave people alone already and stick to your medium size dog and what is best for him. I’m out!

  • txn64

    And so is Taste of the Wild and many others.

  • txn64

    Actually not all states have recalls maybe just your Chevrolet Plant? There are different Diamond Plants and when there is a recall they tell you out of which plant the recall is from.. It has been basically from the same plant every time in the east.

  • txn64

    I have raised German Shepherds for 35 years. I do not feed puppy food for the simple reason you need to slow the growth of the bones to prevent joint disease. It does not stunt the growth as what some people want to think. They will grow up healthy and strong and get all the nutrients they need from an large breed adult food or you need to feed large breed puppy food. I put all of mine on large breed adult. Diamond is a great food and so is the 4Health.. It’s your pick really.. You won’t go wrong with either one..

  • txn64

    I’m convinced you have never used 4Health and only came here to push Earthborn. This was your sole purpose of your post.
    I have a FB Group and we have TONS of people who speak out on the foods they use and a lot use 4Health and I see very few using what you use.. 4Health is a very good Dry Dog Food at a good Price! And a lot of dogs love it.. The reviews speak for themselves.

  • Lamiaa Lamiaa Ahmed

    Excellent post. Its very informative and helpful to my
    Golden Retriever http://golden-retriever-dog.com

  • B Stow

    My dogs love it. I have a German Shepherd (3) and a Belgian Shepherd(9). The Belgian has dog food allergy issues and Perianal Fistulas. This food and Tractor Supply’s Dog bone Treats have not only relieved her allergies, but produced a softer stool for her as well which is so critical with that disease. It saves me a lot of headaches with flare ups and their coats are nice too. I had the Belgian to the vet today for a check up and even he commented on her skin and hair. For the money, this is great stuff! It works for us.

  • Kelli Hart Brenneke

    I use it my dog loves it. I think it’s personal preference.

  • Kelli Hart Brenneke

    I love 4Health I have a Doxy Basset hound mix and he loves it. We had been giving him Cesar’s canned food but he was getting fat and refused to eat any dry food. We switched to 4Health and he LOVES it, now canned 4Health is a treat!

  • DeDe

    We just got a Tractor Supply Company in our town. After talking with one of their employees, I decided I was going to try their 4Health dog food. One of our Golden Retrievers was starting to look, well, ugly. His hair was brittle and he had scabbing around the underside of his neck. I compared it to thick cradle cap. Anyway, I put them on the large breed formula of 4Health and sure enough, he’s looking great. The scabbing disappeared (one day prior to an appointment I had made for him at the vet) and his hair is looking much better. It will take some time for his coat to be completely replaced, but he’s beginning to look beautiful again.

    I would definitely recommend this food.

  • Sugar Daddy

    They had problems and recalls as well. So thank you but all dog food is the same as far as safety goes.

    I will stick to what kept my dog alive for 12 years

  • GSDgrl82

    You won’t feed diamond made products but you will feed blue??? That makes zero sense LOL. Blue is no better in quality and I’ve heard of many dogs having issues with it. For the money I’d feed Fromm instead, much better quality, ingredients and company integrity.

  • Crazy4cats

    Glad you found something that your dog is doing well on. The 4Health canned stew recipes do not contain carrageenan.

  • LE51900

    My dog had an awful allergy to something in the 4Health dry foods! We started feeding it to him almost a year ago and he wasn’t really interested in it at all. So we switched from the Chicken & Potato, to Lamb & Potato and he still turned his nose at it. When he wouldn’t eat that, we moved on to Salmon & Potato. He finally started to eat some of it, but he really didn’t want it at all. I figured he was just a picky eater. Several months later, he began having awful skin, tooth and ear problems. I talked to the vet and they suggested I try going with grain free to see if that helped. So we moved to the grain free line and he would barely touch his food and I had to get creative with getting him to eat. (sad face) His skin problems got SO BAD that you couldn’t even touch him without him getting all twisted up from the itching.

    I FINALLY decided it was time to switch his food and I did a BUNCH of research on dog foods. Apparently this same problem happens to many animals that eat the 4Health brand. I found that 4Health is made by Diamond and Diamond has had SO MANY recalls on foods. (sad face)

    I decided to try Earthborn Holistic Grain Free line of dry food, and in just 1 week, my dog is showing MAJOR improvement in his skin and ears. I’m so glad we switched him to something better because he was miserable and hated eating the 4Health food. Now, when I put a scoop of Earthborn Holistic in his bowl, he is chomping it down before I can even finish pouring it. He hasn’t turned his nose up once at the Earthborn. This is the first food he has EVER eaten every single time I put it in his bowl. No leftovers with Earthborn, and he even begs for more by sitting by the bag and whining. (happy face)

    I found that Earthborn food has a much higher consumer rating that 4Health and that it is MUCH better for dogs. The 4Health brand canned food even has carrageenan (Extensive peer-reviewed
    and published research indicates that food-grade carrageenan
    causes intestinal inflammation with the potential to
    lead to cancer, even in small doses.) NOT good!!

    Find the report here……..


  • Chris Brown

    Ok sounds good Thank you So much!! +=)

  • Pitlove

    I’d say, if there is even a chance that they will be even 45 lbs at max weight, feed the large breed puppy formula. that way if they are over 50 lbs you’ve given them the proper nutrition to grow correctly.

  • Chris Brown

    Oh lord only god knows. LOl There daddy is a big boy. But they have Different moms. So idk how things gonna play out.

  • Pitlove

    will they be over 50 lbs when they are at their mature weight?

  • Chris Brown

    So 4health Puppy Formula Is ok?? There the small pieces.

  • Pitlove

    lol you won’t kill them if you put them on an Adult formula, but it is better for their growth to be on the large breed puppy formula.

  • Chris Brown

    Ok Thank you!! I’m just trying not to kill my boys LOl

  • Pitlove

    No you want to keep them on puppy until they are a year old. They are very cute :)

  • Chris Brown

    So I Just started switching My 6 mouth old Boxer Pit mix and My 6 Month old Hound pit mix From Beneful healthy weight To 4health Puppy Formula And There Large Breed. Should I change them to Adult Size Food of try this one out first?? Im a first time Parent And I want the best for them.

  • labdad

    If you have one locally,go to a Petsmart (NOT Petco)and find their store brand Authority in the Grain free formula. If your dog likes it and does well which I have no doubt of either, you can buy it online and if you buy $50 or more they will ship it free to your door. Have been feeding our adult labs this same food for over 3 years now and no problems. We tried a year ago to go to a different food (from Sams club and ended up with a trip to the ER)and within 2 bags went right back to AuthorityGF. It’s good food (4 stars on here)and not expensive at all.

  • PF Flyer

    I have 2 dogs permanently damaged by the misformulation of Blue yrs. ago. They never paid my vet bill, or even acknowledged my letters; their rep clandestinely questioning people in PetSmart before it was public would not answer my questions. Blue sucks.

  • Misty Martin

    I have large dogs, beneful killed one. I found 4health performance to be the best most amazing dog thus far. I’d dome my research before trusting another brand, I can see why it’s a 5 star dog food. I seen a complete turn around in my remaining dogs within 2 days of switching. Diamond isn’t a good dog food, it’s cheap but does have a lot of fillers and by producta plus it’s tasteless to dogs .

  • Misty Martin

    I did the exact same thing, unfortunately not in time. Beneful killed my Boston terrier before I’d heard about the lawsuits, she had several side affects listed as in non stop drinking. Although my vet confirmed it, there was nothing I could do other than help get the message out there. I beat myself up for along time, but had to realize I wasn’t the one making poisonous dog foods. I too use the 4health performance and has seen incredible changes in the remaining dogs, no more constant drinking, bloating, vomiting, bloody stools, miresey and expensive vet bills. I now have very happy, healthy dogs that loves this food and have no problems getting them to eat it. I had stopped Beneful, was cooking for my dogs until I found this. I made sure to do my research before trusting another dog food and it paid off. Beneful needs to be pulled from the shelves, many people don’t get it and worship that dog poison, I just hope it doesn’t take a loss like mine to get the message through.

  • Natasha Myers

    My pit bull/lab mix used to be really picky. He would not eat his food unless I added canned food. I switched him to Nutrisource chicken and rice about a year ago and he still gobbles it up in like 3 minutes. His coat is really shiny and he maintains a good weight. I feed about 1/2 cup less than I used to feed with other foods.

  • Bobo

    My husband and I as well as my sister in law were feeding our dogs the same type of 4health. I can’t remember which kind. We never had a problem till about 5 months ago. All 4 dogs started itching constantly, chewing their tails, one so badly she almost lost her tail. We thought it’s was hot spots being that it was summer. However, they continued to get worse. We switched to the 4health mature formula with no wheat or soy. They all started getting better. By the second bag all symptoms started over again. We switched to a new brand and now all 4 dogs are fine. Will never buy 4health again. Totaled together we spent close to 5 grand because of this dog food.

  • Gdog

    I left Beneful after hearing about the lawsuit. I’ve been using the Performance formula for 6 months. My dog’s behavior has completely changed. Went from lethargic and bad arthritis to running around like a puppy again. He’s happy and doesn’t constantly drink water like he used to. I really can’t say enough about this dog food. It is amazing.

  • Sugar Daddy

    I looked it up.
    In fact it is made by Diamond

  • Carolyn Vickers

    No it is not. I get it at Tractor Supply Co. It was recommended to me by the people that work there, they all feed it to their dogs. My golden was having severe food allergies, and so I put her on 4Health grain free Beef and Potato. Her food allergies cleared up within a month!

  • Pitlove

    Fromm Gold Large Breed Puppy, Precise Holistic Complete Large/Giant Breed Puppy and my new favorite I added to my list, Nutrisource Large Breed Puppy. Those are my suggestions for a good LBP food.

  • DogLover

    My vet had no recommendation on what to feed our 16 week old puppies (mastiff/St. Bernard/something smaller) except for look for the seal of approval. TSC said either Diamond or 4Health. Then I read comments here; I don’t know what to buy. They are currently on Purina Puppy Chow (that’s what the kennel was feeding them). Help!

  • Mike Edwards

    Only the Beef and Turkey GF are made by Ainsworth… the rest are made by Diamond

  • Pitlove

    I know and I personally don’t have an issue with by-products. I only mentioned it because some people feel that if a company is dishonest, they aren’t worth supporting.

    If you are still going to go with Blue make sure you get a formula for large breed puppies.

  • Sugar Daddy

    I am thinking adding things that were not suppose to be there and adding things that killed dogs are a bit different. I doubt anything is 100% when it comes to dogs.

  • Pitlove

    Alright. make sure you look into the legal trouble Blue has been having as well.

  • Sugar Daddy

    Going with blue.

  • Tammy

    You could try the Fromm Gold LB puppy food. It has worked well for my Lab puppies, nice slow, even growth.

  • Bobby dog

    You’re welcome. I used to feed the GF kibble, but when one of the recipes that Ainsworth manufactured went to Diamond I stopped. Didn’t want to have to keep checking on the manufacturer. Still waiting out Diamond to see if they have improved their manufacturing practices.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Thanks for updating with the current information BD! :) I don’t use it and didn’t have time to finish researching!

  • Bobby dog

    Hi C4d:
    As of March 2015 the information I received from an Ainsworth rep via e-mail is they manufacture 4Health GF Beef & Potato, GF Turkey & Potato dog foods, and GF Whitefish & Potato cat food.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi DTalksAll,

    I looked up 4Health on TSC website. There is a difference in protein level and fat. The performance is higher in both, which could be causing the problems. Also, the performance says “Adult” specifically, which means it isn’t an all life stages formula. If they are ALS, they are stated that they are specfically on the bag. Mixing the 2 might be a good idea. Here’s the formula links:



    There is a good forum on Large Breed Puppies on the forum side of this site and here is a link on DFA regarding Large Breed Puppy food.


  • Crazy4dogs

    That’s very possible. I’ve seen differing comments all over the web.

  • Pitlove

    the GF lines are made by Ainsworth if I’m not mistaken

  • Crazy4dogs

    I’ve read conflicting links. Some say Diamond, some say Ainsworth. They might be splitting between 2 manufacturers and formulas.

    You might want to look into the DFA large breed puppy food link:


    There is also a lot of information on the forum side of this site.

  • Pitlove

    yes it is made by Diamond. are you looking to switch your puppy off this food?

  • Sugar Daddy

    Isn’t this stuff made by diamond?
    I just got an 8 week old Labrador and my vet said no to this when I said what she was eating.

    Diamond has had more recalls than Chevrolet.

  • theBCnut

    All Life Stages meets the requirements for Growth. It is puppy food.

  • Pitlove

    Lol wow! What an over reaction to my questions! I am NOT trolling you at all. I am asking you the same questions anyone would be asking you on this site. This is how we think here and I’m not a mindreader.

    If you are looking for an easy answer that doesn’t require people to ask you questions, I don’t suggest asking for advice on DFA or from your vet. Both will ask a lot of questions to help solve your problem.

    Good luck with your puppy. Take care.

  • Nancy Walk

    We have always fed our two boxers age 9 and 2 the 4 health line. We have switched from the large breed to the performance, due to the large breed was not available at our local store. After being on the performance for a couple months both of our dogs started not wanting to eat and getting sick. We have spent $810 in this past month for testing for vomiting and chronic diarrhea in both dogs, ruled out parasites, worms, etc. just to finally come down to the conclusion “we must of got a bad bag of dog food because there are no current recalls.” Very dissatisfied with this brand due to our recent experience and looking to switch.

  • http://www.dtalksall.com/ DTalksAll

    Oh my gosh! YES, he’s been to the vet, no issues. Like I said in my original comment, they just aren’t as consistently formed as they were when he was on the puppy food. He was tested for Giardia & put on antibiotics a few weeks ago after camping and probably drinking too much lake water. He has been on the 4Health performance for a few months now. Some times he has formed stool for a week straight. Other times it’s just once a day.
    Would you like a list of the supplements he gets? The amount of coconut oil I feed him? How about a list of the treats I feed him? My Vet’s phone number, or my breeders? His fecal sample?
    I’m done feeding the troll.

    I was wondering if others experienced the same issue as mine & what they did about it. I did not come here for a lecture on puppy food and pumpkin. It’s people like you that ruin the comments for everyone else.

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