4Health Dog Food (Canned)


Rating: ★★★★½

4Health canned dog food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4.5 stars.

The 4Health product line includes 7 canned dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

Important: Because many websites do not reliably specify which Growth or All Life Stages recipes are safe for large breed puppies, we do not include that data in this report. Be sure to check actual packaging for that information.

  • 4Health Lamb and Rice [U]
  • 4Health Chicken and Rice [U]
  • 4Health Salmon and Potato (4 stars) [U]
  • 4Health Chicken and Vegetable Stew [U]
  • 4Health Chicken and Rice Puppy (5 stars) [U]
  • 4Health Beef and Vegetable Stew (5 stars) [U]
  • 4Health Chicken and Rice Senior (3.5 stars) [U]

4Health Chicken and Rice was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

4Health Chicken and Rice

Canned Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 41% | Fat = 27% | Carbs = 24%

Ingredients: Chicken, chicken broth, chicken liver, brown rice, barley, egg product, dicalcium phosphate, potassium chloride, guar gum, carrageenan, cassia gum, salt, kelp, rosemary extract, cranberry powder, lecithin, Yucca schidigera extract, ascorbic acid (source of vitamin C), zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, vitamin E supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, copper sulfate, sodium selenite, manganese sulfate, niacin supplement, calcium pantothenate, biotin supplement, folic acid supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin A supplement, riboflavin supplement, calcium iodate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin D3 supplement

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.5%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis9%6%NA
Dry Matter Basis41%27%24%
Calorie Weighted Basis31%51%18%
Protein = 31% | Fat = 51% | Carbs = 18%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken. Chicken is considered “the clean combination of flesh and skin… derived from the parts or whole carcasses of chicken”.1

Chicken is naturally rich in the ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.

The second ingredient is chicken broth. Broths are of only modest nutritional value. Yet because they add both flavor and moisture to a dog food, they are a common addition component in many canned products.

The third ingredient is chicken liver. This is an organ meat sourced from a named animal and thus considered a beneficial component.

The fourth ingredient is brown rice, a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) can be fairly easy to digest. However, aside from its natural energy content, rice is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fifth ingredient is barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. However, aside from its energy content, this cereal grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient is egg product, an unspecified (wet or dry?) form of shell-free eggs. Quality can vary significantly. Lower grade egg product can even come from commercial hatcheries — from eggs that have failed to hatch.

In any case, eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The seventh ingredient is dicalcium phosphate, likely used here as a dietary calcium supplement.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptions

First, carrageenan is a gelatin-like thickening agent extracted from seaweed. Although carrageenan has been used as a food additive for hundreds of years, there appears to be some recent controversy regarding its long term biological safety.

And lastly, the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb. Non-chelated minerals are usually associated with lower quality dog foods.

4Health Canned Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, 4Health canned dog food looks like an above-average wet product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 41%, a fat level of 27% and estimated carbohydrates of about 24%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 41% and a mean fat level of 27%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 24% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 67%.

Near-average protein. Above-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical wet dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a canned dog food containing a notable amount of meat.

Bottom line?

4Health is a meat-based canned dog food using a notable amount of named meats as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4.5 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

4Health Dog Food
Recall History

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Notes and Updates

10/01/2017 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  • If prepared properly and with the right protein to veg/fruit ratio home cooking can be quite healthy for your dog.

  • joe b

    it was probably rice…

  • Belinda Williams

    Just saw this posted to Facebook. 4Health can of dog food loaded with maggots. https://www.facebook.com/100014605295362/videos/pcb.234412867055555/234412857055556/?type=3&theater

  • Pat

    I bought the 4health grain free chicken and beef stew tubs for my 9lb girl. I just looked,and both contain carageenan! She hasn’t gotten ill
    and I mix just a little in her 4health kibble,but now I’m worried.

  • Diva Chloe

    this is a really confusing review as so many formulas are listed with differing scores, yet the one that’s reviewed isn’t rated at all.

  • Amateria

    There’s just too many people and a lot of them are unaware of it and its effects so as nice as that would be, not likely to happen anytime soon or for some items ever.

  • Crazy4cats

    I guess they will keep using it until everyone quits buying it. It is even in some of the “top tier” brands. It is used in a lot of human food too.

  • Diva Chloe

    My greatest fear with commercial dog foods is the fact that they can change the formula/ingredients whenever they want to without disclosure. We have to check every ingredient every few months to be safe. I wonder if home cooking is the best route.

  • Diva Chloe

    That could well be true, but even so, why is the carageenan needed with so many seeming bad reactions to it.

  • Crazy4cats

    Actually, I think it has more to do with the higher fat percentage in the pates. I try to stick to stews as well for my pups for the same reason. Check out Costco’s Nature’s Domain a Turkey & Pea Stew if you haven’t already.

  • Diva Chloe

    Had you fed your dogs the loaf or stew formula? My dogs got severe diarrhea and dehydration when I tried them on the loaf formula with carageenan. The stew formulas do not have it. My dogs do great on the stew. I will never feed them anything with carageenan again. Way too many reports of it making dogs sick.

  • Diva Chloe

    I’ve seen a trend in commercial canned dog foods. Most of the loaf formulas all seem to contain carageenan, (except the exorbitantly high priced brands). But the stews or chunky formulas often do not contain it. Presumably, the loaf formulas need that ingredient to hold their loaf structure together. Too bad, as this one single ingredient has made both my dogs sick enough to have to go to the vet. I am glad to see that the stew formulas for this food get 5 stars but the loaves do not, I assume, due to this controversial ingredient? In my opinion no dog food that has this ingredient deserves 5 stars. My dogs get the stew formulas only.

  • Mainegirly

    My pugs health and body mass went way downhill from using this food. My vet commented how the contents of their anal sacs were telling and their food is poor quality. Switched them to a new brand and saw immediate improvements

  • LabLover

    Iv used all their stew varities for the past two months and havent noticed any issues.

  • LabsRawesome

    I fed 4health stews all last week. No problems here either.

  • peasantgirl

    I always used the chicken and rice pate.

  • Crazy4cats

    Which type of canned are you using? I fed my dogs the beef and vegetable stew in their this morning in and did not notice any difference. I only feed the stews though so I wouldn’t know about any changes to the pates if that is what you feed.
    I occasionally feed Pure Balance as well. I’m glad it worked out for you.

  • peasantgirl

    Did they change the formula??
    I started feeding this to my 8 dogs a couple years ago. I was impressed by the review here, and ALL my dogs liked the food. I talked it up to everyone I knew, convincing several to switch their dog’s food. Well, last February I opened a can and the food looked nasty. It was much greasier than it had ever been. I tried another can, same thing. My dogs wouldn’t eat their dry food without the wet so I gave it to them, but I wasn’t happy about it. Several of them ended up with diarrhea. I stopped mixing the wet into their food and threw away all the cans. They’re spoiled and refused to eat the dry by itself so I bought a couple cans a couple weeks later; same greasy crap. I stopped buying the canned and eventually got them to eat the plain dry food. After several weeks I noticed all of them were continuously asking to go out and immediately running to eat grass. Also vomiting (from the grass) and tummy “rumbles”. I finally had enough and switched them all to Pure Balance. Cheaper and within a week they’d stopped obsessing about eating grass and no more tummy troubles. Plus, they all love the food. Don’t know what happened with 4Health but they’ve lost me as a customer forever.

  • theBCnut

    No, it isn’t rated #1. It is rated 4 1/2 stars. Try reading the article titled “How we rate dog food” if you are interested in what the rating actually means.

  • the truth

    has guar gum, carrageenan, cassia gum and this is rated #1? something smells

  • zoe the chow

    Hi Rose,

    Rotating foods is a good idea if the allergy is not being caused by an ingredient in the food that is damaging the gut.

    If you switch from one food that is damaging the gut and causing an auto-immune response to a different food that is also damaging the gut and causing an auto-immune response, pretty soon your dog could be allergic to every protein source.

    Here’s a little primer on “Leaky Gut Syndrome” that will give you an idea of what I’m talking about.


  • I’ve heard that switching at least every 3 months helps prevent allergies.

  • Ishita

    I completely quit chicken for my dog. One day I found that it was having issues with meat, so I shifted it to veg diet. One of my friends suggested Dogsee chew treats. Feel they are pretty good for my pet.

  • Diane Cressy

    Exactly!! Just like when you make bone broth you covet that gelatin!

  • Diane Cressy

    That jelled “fat” is actually extremely good for you and your dog too.

  • LabsRawesome

    My three love 4health stews, especially turkey & sweet potato.

  • BC3

    I quit using the canned 4 health after I kept experiencing grey food when I opened a can and my dog, who used to love it, would not go near it. Stay away!

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  • ponytailoftexas

    Hi Penny, happy to see your comment about your urinary dog. I have been having such trouble with my mixed breed male who just had 8 calcium oxylate stones removed. He REFUSES to eat anything the vet has recommended (Science Diet or Royal Caanan). I have been about to pull out my hair!

  • LisiePooh

    Yes. In fact, I’ve read that brown rice has higher levels of arsenic than white rice.

  • Pam c

    It had to do with the ingredient list. I believe it had chicken meal in it.

  • Crazy4dogs

    If you ever make homemade chicken soup, you’ll find that when you let the inital broth cool, that fat rises to the top and the bottom is like gelatin. That’s where the nutrition is.
    I don’t personally use this food, but judging from the comments above by Bobby Dog, it is very high in fat. I try to choose lower fat canned foods.

  • rick coons

    Yes it was the grain free it was new to our store , I always buy the stew also to mix, but they were out of most of it . A lesson learned lol, but I do appreciate your comments.

  • Bobby dog

    Sounds like you picked up their new grain free canned recipe. I checked them out last month (my comment is below). It is high in fat, 9% protein and 9% fat. I feed 4H canned too; I like a few of their stews, puppy, and Sr. recipes. They are a great buy!

  • Crazy4dogs

    Fat doesn’t gel, that is probably from cartilage, which is a source of glucosamine.

  • Crazy4cats

    I stick with the 4Health Stews and puppy food. They have less fat in them. I have had good luck with them. I use them as “toppers” mixed in my dogs’ kibble.

  • rick coons

    I always buy merrick dry food and 4 heath canned food for my dogs this time there were 2 cans at 50 cents more with new labels, the chicken one i will never buy again it had jelled fat in the bottom and on the sides of the food, it is very disappointing since i spend so much for my dogs to eat good can’t believe they sell this stuff

  • Anita M Lingerfelt

    About 1/3 can per day. I would split that and feed twice a day. Little dogs do better. It keeps their blood sugar more even.

  • Deborah Smith

    4Health Dry Dog Food & Grain Free (Whitefish, Duck & Pork) Diamond-(800)442-0402

    4Health Grain Free Dog Food( Beef and Turkey) – Dad’s/ Ainsworth-(800)323-7738

    4Health Canned Dog Food – Simmons Pet Food-(866)463-6738

    4Health Dog Treats- Sunshine Mills Inc. 2103 S Gloster St, Tupelo, MS 38801 

  • Bobby dog

    Checked it out the other day, the posted GA on the TSC site is the same info on the can.

  • william moran

    can you tell me why you would of skipped over the beef version?

  • Dori

    Oddly enough Melissa, I don’t know about 4Health as I’ve never looked into it, but there are some foods out there that have more fat than protein. I once looked into Wild Calling Canned foods (I’m a raw feeder but always on the search for something that hubby will feed so that I don’t have to be home for each and every meal) and some of Wild Calling Canned foods have a higher fat % than protein%. Others have equal % fat and protein. It’s absolutely crazy especially considering that Wild Calling is supposedly a good quality type company. One of my local food stores carries the canned food so I checked the label on the can cause I just couldn’t believe it.

  • Crazy4cats

    Sounds similar to Pure Balance. They want to join the grain free “craze”, but have to fill in with fat to keep it affordable. That is why it is so important to READ labels everybody! It’s not too late. I didn’t start until I was 48.

  • Bobby dog

    IDK, hope not. I find when they post new products the information isn’t always accurate. I have to pick up horse feed soon I hope my TSC stocks it. I’ll check it out and post an update if they do. The GF canned cat food doesn’t look bad.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Can that be correct?

  • Bobby dog

    Looks like 4Health added GF canned recipes to the line-up. I found it under the 4Health cat food; they added GF canned cat food too. The Beef & Chic is described as cat food, but they have the GF chicken correct:



  • Crazy4cats

    It is a great value! Mine like it too.

  • Brandon Ramos

    1$ a can and my dogs love it. All 3 are healthy and lean. I mix half can in 3 bowls with dry in morning.

  • Clewell Motors

    How in the world could you be disappointed in a product that is not intended to do what you want? Its like asking an apple to taste like an orange. Do your homework

  • Steve Pierce

    The feeding info on the cans is wrong suggesting 1.25 to 1.75 cans per 15lbs of weight. Updated feeding instructions are on the Tractor Supply website.

    Animal Weight/Size – Daily Amount
    10 lb. or less: 1/3 to 3/4 can per day
    10 to 25 lb.: 3/4 to 1-2/3 cans per day
    25 to 50 lb.: 1-2/3 to 2-3/4 cans per day
    50 to 75 lb.: 2-3/4 to 3-3/4 cans per day
    75 to 150 lb.: 3-3/4 – 6-1/3 cans per day

  • judy

    I just started using 4-health canned food and my dogs love it. I mix it with dry as a special treat in the morning. My dogs range from 6# to 180# and they all love it.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi All-
    We finally have the 4Health canned dog and cat food in the Pacific Northwest! It can be found at Del’s Farm Supply. I don’t know if it is new or not, but they also have a salmon and potato flavor as well as a puppy and senior formula that are not listed above. I think the dog was $1.19 a can. Glad to find another budget friendly canned to add to the Nature’s Domain and Pure Balance. Rotation.

  • Southern Born

    Thank you!!!

  • Bobby dog

    Hi Southern Born:
    I know the predicament you are in! That was one issue (of several) I had last fall with my dog. I came here to look for a new diet for him. I would like to suggest a 95% meat canned food to you; that will help keep carbs to a minimum. Switching to a 95% until I got my dog’s skin problems in check helped him a great deal. There are many balanced 95% on the market, one budget friendly all life stages 95% food is “by Nature.”

    If you do decide on a 95% for your yeasty pup just make sure it is a food for puppies or all life stages. If you are looking for a budget friendly adult maintenance 95%, I fed my dog 95% Pure Balance from Wal-Mart ($1.25/can), and still do in a rotation.

    Here’s a few links if you are interested in buying online, otherwise you can locate a retailer from by Nature’s website if interested in this brand. Good luck!



  • Southern Born

    I know … just needed the feeding instructions.

  • Dori

    Make sure you read the ingredient list completely. Just because it says it’s Lamb doesn’t mean that it doesn’t contain some sort of yeast ingredient or other high histamine ingredients. Potatoes, tomatoes, etc.

  • Southern Born

    Thank you so much I have one puppy that has yeast problems and going grain free does not help b/c the potato starch feed the yeast.

  • Bobby dog

    Hi Southern Born:
    I regularly feed my dog 4health canned food along with various brands of kibble. The following info is from a 4health Lamb & Rice Formula label.

    Feeding Guidelines:
    The amount of food your dog requires will depend on activity, age, environment and breed. Feed at room temperature and always refrigerate unused portion. Always provide clean fresh water.

    Daily Recommended Feeding:
    Adult: feed ¾ to 1 ¼ cans per 15 lbs of body weight per day. Puppy: feed up to twice the adult amount to puppies.


  • Southern Born

    Hello I want to start feedinf my dogs (2 adults 2 puppies) 4health lamb canned only.. but no where do I see an example of how much to feed. My dogs are all 4 #s and under. Can someone tell me?

  • my dog is also diabetic.. .He was rescued from the pound as his owner could no longer afford his medication. He at first would eat nothing i’d put in front of him. Someone suggested salmon as he is a husky. This is now his treat that i give him at the same time of his shot. He LOVES it. My vet told me at the time that the more canned i fed him the better as it is lower in carbs.

  • burghdog

    I purchased some of the canned puppy for a litter I am weaning ….of course they love it. They also get the 4Health puppy. Mom and Dad love it too! Can’t beat the price, and the Quality!

  • Bobby dog

    Thanks for the answer! Saves me from typing one more e-mail. Cheers

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Bobby dog, 4health canned is manufactured by Simmons Pet. 🙂

  • Bobby dog

    Hi HDM:
    Quick question, do you happen to know who cans the 4Health dog or cat food? I thought maybe you might happen to know, if not, I can e-mail TSC to answer my question, thanks.

  • Pam c

    I stopped at tractor supply and picked up several cans. My dog really likes them.

    My only gripe is with their website. They don’t list the calories in a consistent format…I looked at “Salmon & Potato”, “Turkey & Sweet potato”, and “Lamb & Rice”. It’s like they want people to compare apples to oranges. I’m a creature of habit and like consistency.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Cheyenne’s Mommy –

    Actually the canned 4Health isn’t made by Diamond – Diamond doesn’t manufacture canned foods. The canned 4Health is manufactured by Simmons.

    The dry grain-inclusive is made by Diamond and the dry grain-free is made by Ainsworth.

  • Cheyennes mommy

    I have worked at tsc for going on 2 1/2 years and feed my dog and cat nothing else but it is a great high quality dog food and the price unbeatable I sell a lot off this to my customers and have a lot of positive feed back it is our own private label made by diamond pet food I hope I was a little helpful to any who had questions

  • Hound Dog Mom

    While I was in Tractor Supply today I noticed that there is now a puppy chicken & rice and a senior chicken & rice canned formula.

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    how to feed my puppie

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  • mrs.andrew

    I began to gradually introduce 4Health canned food into my Italian Greyhound’s diet after reading the reviews on this site. However, in the second week, my 1.5 year old dog experienced a severe reaction with large hives all over his body and vomiting after eating a can of 4Health turkey . Thank God we had Benadryl on hand!

  • bcoaggiemom09

    I was given a can of the 4Health Salmon and potato formula. My dog is diabetic and has Cushings. Would this be a good food for him?

  • katydid1231

    TS has a grain free dry food in the 4Health line. It’s potato and turkey. My dogs hate dry food, so when I cook a chicken, I de-fat the broth (pour over ice a few times and fat sticks to the ice, then toss), then I soak the dry food in that broth until it’s light and flutty. I toss in a few pieces of breast meat. My dogs love it. I alternate that with a different canned 4H food every day and they don’t get tired of it.

  • katydid1231

    The issue about arsenic in rice. Does that also apply to brown rice?

  • cinci

    If you get on the Tractor Supply website, you click on the flavor and the ingredients and reviews will pop up

  • Brigette

    Thanks! I’ll do that.

  • Brigette


  • Pattyvaughn

    Just like for humans, feeding a variety is healthier than eating only one food. Dog food companies want customer loyalty so they tell you to pick one food and stick to it, but that is not what is best for our dogs. You should pick a few different foods and slowly rotate between them. Once your dog is used to switching foods you can just switch them up with no transition at all. I feed my dogs something different every day.

  • Cyndi

    I don’t think there is any reason why you couldn’t change the flavor every other day, with the canned or the dry. Even switching between a couple different brands is recommended to make their gut stronger.

    Someone more knowledgeable can chime in with more info…

  • Brigette

    Would it be okay to change the flavor of the 4Health canned food every other day or should i keep to one flavor? I didn’t know if it would upset the tummy if i did something like that. I also feed the 4Health dry. I thought that maybe since it was all the same brand that it would be ok?? Anyone know for sure?

  • Pattyvaughn

    The Tractor Supply Company owns this label. States that don’t have TSC may be able to find it at Dels.

  • Chrissy

    Where can you find this can food?

  • At the TSC nearest me, the 13.2 ounce cans are regularly .99, and the 22 ounce cans are only $1.59. That’s a savings right there and it sounds as though you could probably use the larger cans. I know TSC also periodically has a coupon good for a percentage off your entire purchase and it includes pet foods.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Bobbie –

    Good choice on feeding canned. Due to higher moisture content, higher protein content and lower carbohydrate content, canned foods are typically much more species-appropriate than dry foods. Canned foods are a good choice for weight loss because they generally have a lower caloric density than most dry foods due to the high moisture content.

  • Bobbie

    How often do they have sales and how much is the sale price on cans?

  • Bobbie

    I started feeding my dogs the canned 4 health. Could tell they love the chicken and rice pate the best. They eat much slower eating the canned. I’ve always heard that canned is better to feed than dry food and at .99 a can it is doable for me. Does anyone know if canned can help with weight control? I had a vet tell me to use canned, because dry has too many carbs and dogs can gain weight with all the carbs.

  • I am feeding my two Cocker Spaniels 4-H Dry and Canned – they LOVE it. i watch for the TS sales – and then stock up especialy on the canned.

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Kristin, too bad I didn’t see your original post. I could’ve told you that there is a big difference in calories between the two types of 4health canned. The pate style is around 200 calories higher per can than the stew varieties.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I’m glad you figured out what was going on.

  • Kristin

    I wanted to follow up on my last post about the 4 Health canned. I checked back with the TSC and there is a wide range of calorie value in their different flavors. I am now only feeding my old guy the high calorie content cans and a full can of it at that, and he has put his weight back on and is maintaining. I would prefer a more calorie dense food so as to not have to feed him so very much, he is after all, a small dog, but this is in our budget. I feel this is a quality food at a very attractive price. Just keep track of your calories!

  • LabsRawesome

    titianmom, I was just on the TSC site. The ingredient list looks the same to me as it always did. I did not see a bunch of added filler. Where are you getting this info? http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/4healthtrade%3B-chicken–rice-formula-dog-food-132-oz

  • LabsRawesome

    titianmom, if you have a can, please post the ingredients, so we can see what ingredients have changed.

  • titianmom

    TS has changed the recipe of the dog food (4health) and not for the better. I can’t figure out why Advisor has upgraded their rating with the new recipe. My dog won’t eat it–loved the old, and the old you didn’t need to feed as much of which means it WAS a higher quality food.

    The new has a bunch of filler in it. ??? Some key ingredients were removed, also. Before the chicken and rice was rated the best.

  • LabsRawesome

    CJ, Yes 4health canned is an als or all life stages food. So it is suitable for puppies.

  • LabsRawesome

    In case anyone is wondering, 4health canned is manufactured by Simmons Pet. Phone # 1-866-463-6738.

  • Any opinions on if this canned dog food is suitable for puppies? The cans dont specify for puppies

  • Melissaandcrew

    Maybe you got some bad cans? Its still 99 cents though.

  • titianmom

    Someone needs to update this. They’ve changed the product–at least Chicken and Rice is no longer the same stuff. They’ve cheapened it; lots of filler, now, and requires more to feed the dog–nearly twice as much. I’m guessing the price went up, too (husband can’t remember what it was a can). Now it gives my dog gas and diarrhea–never had that problem before with it. They claim on the can that the contents are the same but it isn’t, believe me.

  • Mom to poms

    The stew formulas are chunks. The other two are ground. This brand is only at Tractor Supply stores.

  • Taylor

    My Pomeranian has no teeth and can only eat wet ground food. Does this food come in ground wet? Or is it only in chunks? Can it be bought at Petco?

  • geeod

    The Retriever Chicken and Rice Dinner label I read says the following:

    Chicken, Poultry by-products, Water Sufficient for
    Processing, Rice, Carrageenan, Guar Gum, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Salt,
    Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, B12, D3 Supplements, Thiamine
    Mononitrate, Biotin, Riboflavin Supplement), Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc
    Oxide, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Sulfate, Potassium Iodide, Sodium Selenite),
    Choline Chloride, Natural Flavor.

    Even though it says Poultry by-products it doesn’t contain any of the things my dog is allergic to (wheat, corn, barley, white potato, beef). And at $0.69 a can…how can I go wrong!? I give my dog three tablespoons of wet dog food and mix his allergy meds in it. I just changed his dry dog food to “Just 6”. Again, no ingrediants my dog is allergic to and its way cheaper than the allergy food I was getting him.

  • Pattyvaughn

    The dry has a lot of grain in it so your dog is probably sensitive to grain.  Find the calorie info on your can of 4Health and look for grain free canned with a higher calorie count.

  • Kristin

    I’m very disappointed with the 4-Health canned dog food. My elderly dachshund has developed an allergy or sensitivity and also has trouble chewing kibble with the loss of some teeth so we switched from the 4-Health dry to the canned food hoping that would eliminate his itching and be easier to chew. Well, it is easier to chew of course and the incessant scratching stopped, however, even feeding over the recommended amount, my dog rapidly dropped weight. I’ve added the 4-Health dry back to his bowl along with the canned but the itching has returned. I would like to find an affordable, quality canned food  that he can eat as his sole food source. 

  • Sandi_ruscetta

    Oh, forgot, our  13 year old cat, does better on the canned chicken and rice, yes, he does not vomit the food nor has loose stools, agrees better than canned cat food.  He also gets dry senior kibble not just canned dog food. But, he has certainly perked up. 

  • Sandi_ruscetta

    My senior dogs are also doing well on this food,I posted below, dogs with digestive issues.  Now, my non ambulatory mini senior dachsie with colitis is doing well on the turkey and sweet potato as well as the chicken and rice.

  • 4 health wet food has transformed my 15 year old dash/poodle mix from a senoir, to a teenager!!  She is now super motivated and has perked right up.  It is amazing the change in her

  • Tracie

    4Health dry comes from USA, I just talked to the company. They said some ingredients may come from other countries if we don’t have it here (folic acid comes from China, other vitamins/minerals can come from other countries. Cans are not made here. She said you would have to contact tractor supply for that info. Lamb (in the dry) comes from New Zealand.

  • anile8em

    I’m feeding both of my dogs the lamb and rice formula with fantastic results. They love it and there has been a significant improvement in their coat softness and shedding. It is very notable to mention both my male and female exhibited identical loose stool issues with the beef and vegetable stew, which ceased immediately when switching to the lamb and rice.

  • Sandi_ruscetta

    Purchased canned food several months ago.  One dog  16 year old has intestinal cancer,  does better on canned food, one is a  19 year old foster,living out his time, some pancreatitic episodes, and one a  14 non ambualtory  all are dachsies, who has colitis.  Well, the chicken and rice ( I have cooked and also fed canned EN to the dog with pancreatitis and the one with colitis, well, the chicken and rice (not the stew is working.  Previously any new food within a day blood runs, even introducing it so slowly.  I mixed it with canne en for several weeks, now she eats the chicken and rice only.

    The dogs with intestinal cancer is doing very wll on the food as well as the dog who has had pancreatitic episodes.

    Oh, my other 3 dogs loved the canned food mixed in with their kibble, I feed Loyall Senior made by Nutrena.

    They love the turkey and sweet potato,which also agrees with several of the dogs mentioned above, have not fed it to the litle girl with colitis.

  • If you want to get a ballpark idea about Retriever brand, just look at it’s guaranteed analysis as well as the ingredient list.  Then look around here for foods that are in the same ballpark.  But I can tell you that you should be looking at the low star 1-2 rather than anything higher.  Just a wild guess.  I’ve peeked at the ingredients and they aren’t good. 

  • Claire

    Hi Mike, I was curious about the Retriever brand too, and the only info I could find was an older recall notice of Mars Petcare products made in Everson, Pa. due to salmonella outbreak. The notice stated that, “all products listed below are made at our Everson facility on behalf of a variety of retailers.” The following brands were listed: Country Acres, Members Mark, Natural (Sam’s Club), Ol’ Roy, Paws and Claws, Pedigree, Pet Pride, PMI, Red Flannel, Retriever, Special Kitty and Wegmans. Shortly after that, the plant closed permanently. However, a statement from the company said that many were national brands  manufactured in multiple Mars facilities.
    The Petcare division (1 0f 6) of Mars website only lists their more iconic brands such as: Pedigree, Royal Canin, and Nutro etc.  It does state that the company is headquartered in Brussels, Belgium with a home base in McClean, Va. and more than 33,000 associates at 199 locations in 73 countries around the world. With those connections and without them being more upfront about the other brands they contract for, it might be difficult to source their supply chain and exact manufacturing practices for the full scope of their pet food product lines. I did notice that under the list of countries China was not included, but that exclusion doesn’t really say much about anything.
    BTW, thanks for a great website. My first time here looking around and I really enjoyed it and learned a lot!

  • BryanV21

    The only factual information listed here is just that… the facts. You can get this same information yourself.

  • Dbrown433

    what a load of BS you are posting on your website, you have no idea of the exact content of the food and are just plain wrong on some of your posts

  • Kathy

    AT least I know who is responsible and accountable for those food items!! I’m not going to be stupid about what I feed my dogs by being uninformed. That’s what happened to the animals that died from all the recalls, particularly Diamond products. I obviously care more about my dogs than you care about yours.

  • melissa


    Diamond makes the dry, I have no idea who makes the canned. I have never had an issue with the canned products, except the fish(salmon) gave several diarrhea.

  • Bob K

     Kathy – If you are concerned, don’t buy it.  If you wanted more information about Campbells soup or Hormel Chili, do you think its readily available?  What exactly do you want to know?  Why? 

    The beef or chicken you buy at your local grocery store – Where is it from?  How old is it?  When was it butchered?  Does it have Mad Cow disease?  Are you sure?  There have been many recent studies that over 30 % of the fish you buy is mislabeled.  Its is all very scary. 

  • Kathy

    Cannot get ANY information about this brand except what is on their labels–which is NOT acceptable. Who is accountable for the manufacturing of this brand? It’s only sold at Tractor Supply and they know nothing about it. The last bag of dry food I looked at said Diamond, which as had more recalls than just about any other brand!

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  • Eve’sHumanMom

    Someone correct me if I am mistaken, but I thought the canned food was made elsewhere.  Also, the recall was due to salmonella, which would be killed off during the processing and packing of canned food.

  • Irockwired

    WARNING HERE: Diamond Pet food makes 4Health>I have 3 sick dogs using the lamb canned food.-Remember: Diamond JUST recalled the Lamb formula.Be Careful.

  • melissa

      PS-Just wanted to mention that there  is also the original chicken/rice “pate style” and the Chicken/vegetable stew variety-so now 6 products in this line , and all remain at .99 cents per can : ) and only one appears to add “carmel coloring”

  • melissa

    Thanks for the “heads up” Ron-

    I went and got several of each flavor to try out with my crew-For anyone interested-

    Turkey & Sweet Potato Stew

    Turkey Broth, Turkey, Turkey Liver, Dried Egg Product, Peas, Sweet Potato, Guar Gum, Sodium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Natural Flavor, Flaxseed Meal, Salt, Ferrous Sulfate, Choline Chloride, Vitamin E supplement, Zinc Oxide, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Thiamine Mononitrate, Biotin, Vitamin A Supplement, Potassium Iodide,Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement-

    Crude Protein Min 8.0%
    Crude Fat Min 5.0%
    Crude Fiber(max) 1.5%
    Moisture(Max) 82.0%
    Calories-ME Calculated- 953 Kcal/Kg-356 can

    Salmon & Potato Formula

    Salmon, Whitefish, Salmon Broth, Potatoes, Brown Rice Flour, Sunflower Oil,. Guar Gum, Cassia Gum, Carrageenan, Flaxseed Meal, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Glucosamine Hydrochloride, Chondroitin sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Dried Tomatoes, Dried Spinach, Dried Blueberries, Dried Cranberries, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Vitamn E Supplement, Choline Chloride, Zinc Oxide,  Thiamine Mononitrate,, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Sulfate, Niacin, Sodium Selene, Vitamin B12 Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D3 Supplemtnt, Potassium Iodide, Riboflavin,Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid

    Crude protein Min 8.0%
    Crude Fat- min-6.0%
    Crude Fiber Max- 1.5%
    Moisture Max 78.0%
    ZInc Min-45 mg/kg
    Vitamin A Min-2,500 IU/Kg
    Vitamin E Min -25 IU/kg
    Omega 6 fatty acids Min-0.63%
    Omega 3 Fatty ACids-Min00.13%
    Glucosamine Min 380mg/kg,
    Chondrotin(min) 220mg/kg
    1128 Kcal/kg calculated-421 Kcal/can

    Both state AAFCO for growth and maintenance

  • Ron

    hi just wanted to let eveyone know i went to tractor supply today 4/21/12 for my usual supply of 4 health wet food and was surprised to find they have added 2 other varieties both by 4 health 1.TURKEY&SWEET POTATO STEW.2.SALMON&POTATO FORMULA so mike i hope you can rate these 2 new products..and will keep my eyes on your review.Ron.

  • Theresa

    It may be very good, and my dog will eat it..but it gives him loose stools :o( And YES, I know about switching gradually. Just not worth the difficulty when other canned foods don’t have this effect.

  • Hi Susan… Unfortunately, wiht more than 2,500 dog foods represented here on this website, it’s impossible for me (or anyone) to know from where the ingredients for each food actually originate. For that kind of information (which can change from day to day and batch to batch), you’ll probably want to contact the manufacturer.

    By the way, please be sure to read my article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews“. Hope this helps.

  • Susan

    From what country to the ingredients in the 4Health dry and canned foods come?

  • kim

    Just started feeding this food mixed with their dry puppy formula a week ago(to my extremely picky 12week old basset hound who wasn’t eating and losing weight). It is great!!! He loves it and starts eating it as soon as I’m pouring it into the bowl every time! He has put his weight back on and his coat looks amazing! We had been feeding Chicken Soup for the Soul and then Taste of the Wild and would not eat them. I found this at Tractor Supply and decided to give it a try after checking this site for the review. You can’t beat the price for the quality! Winston is back to being his sweet self so we are very happy! 🙂

  • Meagan

    Thanks Michelle I was wondering that myself.

  • Michelle

    Thanks Mike. I will try to find this info. I will post and let you know who manufactures 4health canned, if I can find out.

  • Hi Michelle… No, unfortunately, I don’t know who manufactures 4Health “canned”. Wish I could be more help.

  • Michelle

    Hi Mike, Do you know who manufactures the 4health canned? On the can it just says made in USA, and distributed by Tractor Supply Co….. but it does not mention the manufacturer.

  • Hi Kathy… For a puppy, you should be sure to use a food specifically designed to meet the nutritional needs of puppies. These products would include dog foods which comply with AAFCO nutrient profiles for “growth and reproduction” or “all life stages”. Hope this helps.

  • Penny

    Our dog had been put on a very expensive, low quality dog food by our veterinarian for a urinary issue. She was still having issues on that food. Having dealt with cats with urinary problems, I opted to switch her to a canned diet with higher quality ingredients, but was worried about price as I am on a tight budget. I found 4health’s canned foods at TSC and have been THRILLED with the results so far. Not only is she free of urinary problems and having nice, clean samples (no sludge or crystals), but she is a more trim weight, sheds less, and has not been ripping the fur out of her feet (which I was told can be a sign of food allergy) anymore. VERY satisfied with this product, even if it isn’t *perfect.*

  • Scott A

    This food has been approved by the AAFCO for all life stages so it is fine to feed this to a puppy.

  • Kathy

    I will be bringing a 7 week old Jack Russell puppy home in a few weeks and am wondering if this could be added to her dry puppy food? I may end up efeding 4Health dry as well but am starting with Simply Nourish. Do you need to use only puppy formula wet food?

  • Michelle

    Sorry for the duplicate posts, there must be a delay and they weren’t showing up. If I find a company operated site I will post it for you.

  • Michelle
  • Michelle

    Hi Mike, here’s a page with all Retriever brand canned foods. http://www.tractorsupply.com/pet-care/dog-products/dog-food/canned-dog-food/?currentPage=5

  • Hi Michelle… When I followed your link, I found 35 different dry and wet products in the Retriever line. Unfortunately, I’m not sure if Tractor Supply is the actual owner of this brand or simply a standard retailer. I always prefer an up-to-date website operated by the company itself.

    Thanks to your help, I’ve now added Retriever to my To Do list. In any case, due to our current backlog of products for review, it could be a while longer before we I to it. If you ever come across the manufacturer’s website, please let me know. Thanks again for the tip.

  • Michelle

    Hi Mike, here’s a better page,that shows more canned Retriever products. http://www.tractorsupply.com/pet-care/dog-products/dog-food/canned-dog-food/?currentPage=5

  • Michelle
  • Hi Deb… I’ve never been able to locate a company operated website that includes all label information for Retriever Dog Food. If you find one, please send it to me. Thanks.

  • Deb

    I just found this food at my local Tractor Supply and it is touted as their value brand. I woudl love to see a review of this! It has no by-products listed but the other formulas in the line do. I have been feeding TSC’s 4Health line of wet foods which is .99 a can. This is only .59 cents a can. With 3 dogs, this will be the better deal for me, that is, if Mike says it’s a good food. 🙂

    Retriever® Chicken & Rice Dinner Dog Food is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for growth and maintenance of dogs.
    •100% complete nutrition for your dog’s health

    Chicken Chicken Broth Rice Flour Rice Egg Carrageenan Sodium Tripolyphospate Salt Cassia Gum Guar Gum Titanium Dioxide Potassium Chloride Vegetable Oil Dicalcium Phosphate Choline Chloride Calcium Carbonate Garlic Powder Sodium Nitrate Zinc Sulfate Vitamin E Supplement Ferrous Sulfate Niacin Supplement D-Pantothenic Acid Copper Sulfate Manganese Sulfate Thiamine Mononitrate Vitamin A Supplement Ribofalvin Supplement Potassium Iodide Pyridoxine Hydrochloride Folic Acid Sodium Selenite Biotin Viatmin B12 Supplement Vitamin D3 Supplement.

    Guaranteed Analysis:
    Crude Protein (min.) 8.0% Crude Fat (min.) 6.0% Moisture (max.) 78.0% Crude Fiber (max.) 1.50%.

  • Susan

    Melissa, I didn’t think to mention this the other day, but I contacted TOTW through their website about possible coupons or samples. They don’t do coupons but they will send you several samples of their dry food.

  • Meagan

    Geez they have allot there. I only see seven stores altogether in Iowa, and they are really all spread out. Bummer because it is a great store.

  • melissa


    I am just a few miles(one exit) from the closest one, however there are approx 4 within 30 mins and another being built : ) I did notice that product selection can and does vary between stores, so I frequently check out the group of them for new items.

  • Susan

    Melissa, thanks for the tip about TSC’s Pet Celebration Days! I’ll be sure to check it out.

  • Meagan

    Melissa- I appreciate those tips, glad you pay attention to those sales. 🙂 How close are you to your TSC

  • melissa


    June 10,11 and 12 are “Pet Celebration Days” there-they OFTEN have unadvertised specials on pet foods, so I am always sure to attend. Currently, in store, there is a blue flyer(pamphlet style) with a golden on front-on Saturday, the 11th, you can use the coupon in the back for $5 off ANY bag of dry food regularly priced at $30 or more. You need the coupon and its a limit of two bags/customer. I am going to get some of the TOTW to try on that day!

    Tried the lamb/rice canned for the first time today(they were out of the chicken I usually get) and the dogs went nuts for that as well! How can you beat the .99cents per can!!!

  • Mike P

    Whatever it takes Antonio …lol

  • Meagan

    Yep I do get them at TSC I have about four cans left of the 4health and about twenty of the Diamond beef and rice. When I get closer to being out I am going to stock up on quite a few cases of 4health. The store is 1hr and 20 min away from my home.

  • Antonio

    [email protected] Mike P, what you do pull a Adam Sandler move (from Big Daddy) and throw the cans on the floor and dent them up to get them half price? LOL. 😀

  • Mike P

    Megan , I assume you buy 4health at tractor supply ?? I bought 4 dented cans of it for half price . What a deal …

  • Meagan

    99 cents! its a great buy and my dog loves it

  • Jonathan

    You know what’s another less expensive “sleeper” of a canned topper? Nutro Max Canned. I don’t know why, but the Max canned foods are better quality than the Natural Choice and Ultra canned, despite the fact that it’s the exact opposite with the dry variants. For $1.19 a can, I get 3 meals worth of topping and Sadie loves it. How much is a can of 4health?

  • Susan

    Melissa and Gordon, thanks. There’s a Tractor Supply store in town and it’s where I get TOTW. I want to try the 4Health canned for a topper.

  • Yeah Susan, what Melissa says makes sense and also she may have specific information regarding that. That’s why I was inclined to believe that Tractor Supply Co, are the source licensee, pretty much like Artemis, Canidae, and who ever else it is that also contracts Pet Diamond to make these company’s contracted formulas.

  • melissa

    HI Susan-

    4health is made by Diamond Pet Foods for Tractor Supply Company.

  • Susan – I just did a Google search and from my search it appears that a company called Tractor Supply Co. may be the source licensee of the 4Health pet food products. They look to be a big agriculture-and-then-some outfit. Their website displaying their 4Health range is http://www.tractorsupply.com/content/storeevents/4health

  • Susan

    What company makes the 4Health dog food? Is there a website for it? I’ve searched but I can’t find it. Thanks.

  • Melissa


    The two pate style foods( the chicken/rice, and the lamb/rice) are the two ORIGINAL recipes produced under their label. The two other varieties(the “and veggies” ones are the two new ones) It would seem that the coloring was added to the “with veggie” stew varieties and not the pate style. I actually kept a label from the first can I bought(the day it was released in our area) so that I could track whether or not the food recipe changes, lol) All my dogs eat it with gusto, even the finicky eaters

  • Holy Moly! I saw this on the shelf at Tractor Supply today and bought just one can to try (for my somewhat finnicky 70-pound English bull terrier). A quick read of the label had me believe it would be a 4 star DFA rating – one de-merit for non-chelated minerals. As Melissa (above) states, the label is even better than the one Mike evaluated. This can, lamb and rice, starts with lamb, vegetable broth, and lamb liver. And, there is no food coloring. So… Did they improve it since Mike’s evaluation, or have they cheapened it since the one I bought was produced. In either case, at 99 cents vs. $2.29 for Blue Wilderness — Big Boy better like it or no cookies this month!

  • Melissa


    Watch the TSC website-several times a year they do “pet days” and all foods are on sale. When this occurs, the canned is typically only 75 cents per can-a bargain all day long. This is when I typically stock up on the various canned products. Employed or not, in this economy we can all use a savings!

  • Cliff

    Mike, thanks so much for adding this review. While I’m not too happy about the addition of caramel… I’m happy that I’ve been feeding a 4.5 star food. My Doberman, Bonnie, adores it, and I would have hated to stop giving it to her, as I can’t afford a more expensive canned food as I’m unemployed at present. It’s a relief to me that I can keep feeding her 4Health canned food with confidence.

  • melissa

    MIke P-I use the pate Chicken and Rice whose label reads as follows-

    Chicken, Chicken Broth, chicken Liver, Brown Rice, Barley, Egg product, Dicalcium Phosphate, potassium Chloride, Guar Gum, Carrageenan, Cassia Gum, Salt, Kelp, Rosemary extract, Cranberry powder, Lechitan, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Ascorbic Acid(source of vitamin C) Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Copper Sulfate. Sodium Selenite, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Suuplement,. Calcium Panthothnate, Biotin Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin D Supplement-

    Guaranteed Analysis
    Crude protein min 9.0
    Crude Fat(min) 6.0
    Crude Fiber(max) 1.0
    Moisture (max) 78

    Calorie content kcals/Kg 1310-AAFCO statement for formulated for all life stages

    One thing- It states ‘sold by” info on the label, but not who it is made by-although it states “made in USA”

  • Mike P

    Melissa , I too am going to stock up on the 4health canned . I wish it came in more flavors and don’t like stew versions . 99 centavos ! 4 1/2 stars ! I’m in on this one ..

  • melissa


    There is a significant difference in the kcals per can, with the Chicken/rice pate style being the highest, so just be sure to account for the extra cals! Watch their website-they often put it on sale as well. I thought it seemed like a decent canned, but now that Mike has done the review, I am going to order several more cases as you can not go wrong with the rating and price!

  • Meagan

    Whoo this is a great rating to me. I can not believe it is only .99! Great Great deal if you ask me. My two love it. I have to say the pate lasts longer(4 days) than the chunks(2 days) with my two. Only because I do not smash it all up. Next time I go back to TSC I will be buying a few cases of it. Thanks Mike sure glad to see the great review.

  • melissa


    Thank you! You are the best. Many have been waiting for this review, and these canned foods are VERY reasonable in pricing! The first two that they came out with were the Lamb & Rice(pate style) and the Chicken & Rice(not listed above-pate style) The beef and veggie and another one(with veggies) were introduced to the market only 2-3 months ago. I have been feeding this canned food as toppers since the day it came available on the market(literally) and all love it and have been doing wonderfully on it. Thanks again!