I am new to the board so please forgive me if I am not in the right place for this. I just got off the phone with Orijens to get the carb count for my diabetic dog. They don’t list ash on their website to calculate into the carb count. These numbers would be accurate for their senior and original formula. I hope this helps you update your numbers or if I am misunderstanding something, please do let me know. This information is critical for a diabetic dog.