Creating a diet plan & rotation sched for Dachshund puppy

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    Lauren
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    Hi everyone!

    This is my first post here 🙂

    I’d like to get your suggestions for a food plan for my new rescue pup. I need help making sure I’m balancing the proteins, fats, and nutrients, and giving a good mix of different main ingredients.

    I also would love suggestions for what wet food or toppers I should add for the most beneficial diet.

    My puppy is a 14 week old Dachshund, only 4 pounds, likely to get to 10 pounds, 15 max.
    His energy level is low medium. He’s pretty laid back, not super high energy puppy.

    Currently, I’m planning to generally follow the recommendation on this site for food rotation, which is:
    -Mix 1/5 of a small can of a single-species wet food (chicken, lamb, rabbit, etc.) with his kibble.
    -As each can runs out, switch to a different wet food from the same brand.
    -When each bag of kibble is empty, start with a different kibble from the same brand).
    – Twice a year, gradually switch brands, too.

    At the end of this post I’ve listed all the brands and formulas I’m considering. I’ve laid it all out so it’s easy to compare, and ordered them by highest protein % to lowest.

    Here are some questions I have:
    — Should I try to rotate foods with different protein and fat percentages AND also with different protein and veg ingredients?
    OR
    Should I try to determine which protein percentage is best for my pup and stick to that, then focus just on rotating main ingredients and formulas that contain that protein %?
    — Do you have suggestions for a good rotation using these foods for a nicely balanced diet?
    — Wet food toppers – suggestions to best balance these brands/formulas??
    — Do you advise on switching brands more rapidly than 2x a year? What about switching formulas faster than one bag of kibbel at a time?

    Thank you everyone!!!

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    FULL LIST
    Kibbles I considered, with nutritional breakdowns, for easy comparison:

    HOLISTIC SELECT
    — Holistic Select Small & Mini Breed Puppy Health Anchovy, Sardine & Chicken
    PROTEIN 30.0% min / FAT 20.0% min / FIBER 3.4% max
    — Holistic Select Adult & Puppy Health Salmon, Anchovy & Sardine Grain-Free
    PROTEIN 29.0% min / FAT 14.0% min / FIBER 5.5% max

    CANIDAE
    — CANIDAE All Life Stages Chicken Meal & Rice
    Main ingred: Chicken Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Rice Bran, Cracked Pearled Barley,
    Peas, Chicken Fat, Millet, Flaxseed Meal
    PROTEIN 26.0% / FAT 15.0% / FIBER 4.0% / O6 3.7% / O3 0.5%
    — CANIDAE All Life Stages Multi-Protein (chicken, turkey, lamb and fish)
    Main ingred: Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, White Rice, Rice Bran,
    Peas, Potatoes, Oatmeal, Cracked Pearled Barley, Chicken Fat, Millet, Flaxseed Meal,
    Ocean Fish Meal
    PROTEIN 24.0% / FAT 14.5% / FIBER 4.0% / O6 3.7% / O3 0.5%
    — CANIDAE All Life Stages Lamb Meal & Rice
    Main ingred: Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Cracked Pearled Barley, Rice Bran, Peas, Millet,
    Lamb, Flaxseed Meal
    PROTEIN 21.0% / FAT 12.5% / FIBER 4.0% / O6 3.55% / O3 0.5%

    TASTE OF THE WILD
    — Taste of the Wild High Prairie Puppy Grain-Free
    Main ingred: Buffalo, Lamb Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Egg Product, Pea Protein, Peas,
    Potatoes, Canola Oil, Tomato Pomace, Bison, Roasted Venison, Beef, Flaxseed,
    Potato Fiber, Ocean Fish Meal, Salmon Oil
    PROTEIN 28.0% / FAT 17.0% / FIBER 5.0% / O6: 3.8% O3: .3%
    ***Looks like a good option
    — Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream Puppy Grain-Free
    Main ingred: Salmon, Ocean Fish Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Peas, Pea Protein
    PROTEIN 27.0% / FAT 15.0% / FIBER 5.0% max / O6: 2.4% O3: .3%

    MERRICK
    — Merrick Lil’ Plates Grain-Free Real Texas Beef + Sweet Potato Recipe Small Breed
    Main ingred: Deboned Beef, Lamb Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Peas, Potatoes, Natural Flavor,
    Potato Protein, Salmon Meal, Pork Fat, Pea Protein, Salmon
    PROTEIN 38.0% / FAT 15.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O6 3.5% / O3 0.35%
    — Merrick Lil’ Plates Grain-Free Real Chicken + Sweet Potato Recipe Small Breed
    Main ingred: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes,
    Peas, Natural Flavor, Chicken Fat, Salmon Meal, Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 38.0% / FAT 17.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O6 4.8% / O3 0.4%
    — Merrick Backcountry Raw Infused Puppy Recipe Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Peas,
    Natural Flavor, Turkey Meal, Chicken Fat, Potato Protein, Deboned Salmon,
    Chicken Liver, Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 30.0% / FAT 12.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O6 3.0% / O3 .3%
    — Merrick Real Beef & Sweet Potato Recipe Grain-Free Puppy Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Deboned Beef, Sweet Potatoes, Peas, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Pork Fat,
    Pea Protein, Potato Protein, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil, Deboned Salmon, Flaxseed Oil,
    Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 28.0% / FAT 12.0% / FIBER 4.5% max O6 2.0% / O3 .3%
    — Merrick Grain-Free Puppy Real Chicken & Sweet Potato Recipe Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Potatoes, Peas, Sweet Potatoes,
    Natural Pork Flavor, Potato Protein, Chicken Fat, Natural Chicken Flavor,
    Deboned Salmon, Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 28.0% / FAT 12.0% / FIBER 4.5% / O6 2.2% / O3 .3% min

    ZIGNATURE
    — Zignature Zssential Multi-Protein Formula Grain-Free
    Main ingred: Turkey, Turkey Meal, Lamb Meal, Chickpeas, Duck Meal, Pea Flour, Peas,
    Salmon, Flaxseeds, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal
    PROTEIN 32.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 5.5% / O6 4.5% / O3 2.0%
    — Zignature Turkey Limited Ingredient Formula Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Turkey, Turkey Meal, Chickpeas, Peas, Pea Protein, Sunflower Oil, Flaxseed,
    PROTEIN 31.0% / FAT 18.0% / FIBER 6.0% / O6 4.0% / O3 1.0%
    — Zignature Trout & Salmon Meal Limited Ingredient Formula Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Trout, Salmon Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Pea Flour, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal
    PROTEIN 30.0% / FAT 14.0% / FIBER 6.0% / O6 1.8% / O3 0.5%
    — Zignature Lamb Limited Ingredient Formula Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Lamb, Lamb Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Pea Flour, Sunflower Oil, Pea Protein,
    Flaxseed
    PROTEIN 28.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 6.5% / O3 0.9% / O6 5.0%
    — Zignature Kangaroo Limited Ingredient Formula Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Kangaroo, Kangaroo Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Pea Flour, Sunflower Oil,
    Flaxseed, Red Lentils, Green Lentils, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Pea Protein
    PROTEIN 26.0% / FAT 14.0% / FIBER 4.5% / O6 3.0% / O3 0.6%

    VICTOR
    — Victor Select Nutra Pro Active Dog & Puppy Formula Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Chicken Meal, Beef Meal, Whole Grain Millet, Blood Meal, Chicken Fat,
    Menhaden Fish Meal, Pork Meal, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Flax Seed, Feeding Oat Meal
    PROTEIN 38.0% / FAT 18.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O6 2.5% / O3 0.4%
    — Victor Yukon River Salmon & Sweet Potato Grain-Free Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Salmon, Menhaden Fish Meal, Sweet Potato, Peas, Canola Oil,
    Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Flax Seed
    PROTEIN 33.0% / FAT 15.0% / FIBER 3.8% / O6 2.4% / O3 0.4%
    — Victor Active Dog & Puppy Formula Grain-Free
    Main ingred: Beef Meal, Sweet Potato, Chicken Meal, Peas, Chicken Fat, Pork Meal,
    Menhaden Fish Meal, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Dried Egg Product, Flax Seed
    PROTEIN 33.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 3.8% / O6 2.8% / O3 0.4%
    — Victor Professional Formula Dry Dog Food
    Beef Meal, Grain Sorghum, Chicken Meal, Chicken Fat, Whole Grain Millet, Pork Meal,
    Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Flax Seed, Feeding Oat Meal
    PROTEIN 26.0% / FAT 18.0% / FIBER 3.8% / O6 2.6% / O3 none?
    — Victor Select Beef Meal & Brown Rice Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Beef Meal, Whole Grain Brown Rice, Whole Grain Millet, Grain Sorghum,
    Pork Meal, Chicken Fat, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Flax Seed, Feeding Oat Meal
    PROTEIN 23.0% / FAT 11.0% / FIBER 4.0% / O6 2.0% / O3 .4%

    NATURE’S VARIETY
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Original Grain-Free Recipe with Real Salmon
    Main ingred: Salmon, Menhaden Fish Meal, Herring Meal, Peas, Canola Oil, Salmon Meal,
    Tapioca, Dried Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil, Montmorillonite Clay,
    Carrots, Apples, Cranberries
    PROTEIN 37.5% / FAT 20.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 1.8% / O6 2.7%
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Original Grain-Free Recipe with Real Duck
    Main ingred: Duck, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Peas, Chicken Eggs, Canola Oil, Duck Meal,
    Tapioca, Dried Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor, Chickpeas, Montmorillonite Clay
    PROTEIN 37.5% / FAT 19.5% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 0.5% / O6 3.0%
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Grain-Free Recipe with Real Lamb
    Main ingred: Lamb, Salmon Meal, White Fish Meal (Pacific Whiting, Pacific Sole,
    Pacific Rockfish), Peas, Canola Oil, Tapioca, Menhaden Fish Meal, Lamb Meal,
    Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Freeze Dried Lamb, Chickpeas, Pumpkinseeds,
    Freeze Dried Lamb Liver, Freeze Dried Lamb Spleen, Montmorillonite Clay,
    Freeze Dried Lamb Heart, Freeze Dried Lamb Kidney, Carrots, Apples, Cranberries
    PROTEIN 37.5% / FAT 19.0% / FIBER 4.5% / O3 1.5% / O6 2.5%
    ***Note: Seems like a good option
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Original Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Chicken Fat,
    Salmon Meal, Chicken Eggs
    PROTEIN 37.0% / FAT 20.0% / FIBER 3.0% / O3 0.3% / O6 2.6%
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Turkey Meal, Chicken Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Chicken Fat,
    Salmon Meal, Chicken Eggs
    PROTEIN 37.0% / FAT 20.5% / FIBER 4.0% / O3 0.35% / O6 3.2%
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Small Breed Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Chicken Meal, Chickpeas, Turkey Meal, Tapioca, Herring Meal,
    Chicken Fat, Peas, Freeze Dried Chicken, Dried Tomato Pomace, Natural Flavor,
    Freeze Dried Chicken Liver, Coconut Oil, Pumpkinseeds, Montmorillonite Clay,
    Freeze Dried Chicken Heart
    PROTEIN 37.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 0.3% / O6 2.5%
    ***Note: Seems like a good option
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Original Grain-Free Recipe with Real Rabbit
    Main ingred: Rabbit, Salmon Meal, Menhaden Fish Meal, Chickpeas, Canola Oil, Tapioca,
    Rabbit Meal, White Fish Meal
    PROTEIN 36.5% / FAT 20.5% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 1.5% / O6 3.4%
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Small Breed Grain-Free Recipe with Real Duck
    Main ingred: Duck, Duck Meal, Chicken Meal, Peas, Tapioca, Herring Meal, Chicken Eggs,
    Chicken Fat, Freeze Dried Duck, Freeze Dried Turkey, Freeze Dried Turkey Liver,
    Coconut Oil, Pumpkinseeds
    PROTEIN 36.5% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 4.5% / O3 0.4% / O6 2.5%
    ***Note: Seems like a good option
    — Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Puppy Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Peas, Chickpeas, Chicken Eggs,
    Chicken Fat, Menhaden Fish Meal, Tapioca, Freeze Dried Chicken, Lamb Meal,
    Dried Tomato Pomace, Freeze Dried Chicken Liver
    PROTEIN 34.0% / FAT 18.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 0.4% / 3.8% min

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    Reese B
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    This reply is a little late, but it seems like you’ve done a bunch of research! Good for you!
    I personally like to rotate brands after every bag. I have 4 brands right now and when one is done I move on to another that has a totally different protein source.
    For instance, I use Valens (Chicken & turkey), then Farmina (boar), then Petkind tripe (Venison), and then Nutram (Lamb).
    I like to keep the protein content of the brands around the same, around 28-30%. I’m sure as you try different formula’s, you’ll find a good ratio of proteins, fats and carbs that works for your dog.
    For toppers, I like to use K9 naturals canned tripe and olewo carrots. (The carrots are really good for helping with healthy firm poops) I also like to add some green lipped mussel powder.
    I’m sure with time, you’ll find what works best for your little guy. He’s super cute by the way!

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    crazy4cats
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    Hi Lauren-
    Congratulations on your new adorable puppy! Looks like he found a great home.
    I do like to rotate foods a bit also. I usually feed one brand for four or five months, rotating through their different flavors paying particular attention to calories and fat. I like to feed them food that is around the same amount of calories. It just keeps it simpler for knowing how much for everyone in our house to feed them and to keep their weight fairly stable. I add a couple of spoonfuls of canned food, sardines or eggs to their meals. I used to feed some commercial raw as a topper as well, but NO more after all the recalls of late!

    I pretty much feed my cats the same dry food and switch up their canned food for some variety in their diet.

    Good luck with your new pup. Keep it simple! I’m learning that feeding them different foods is probably as much or more for our own enjoyment as it is theirs! LOL! Best Wishes.

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    Lauren
    Member

    Thank you all for the replies and the guidance!

    Here is an update 🙂

    We are finally about to run out of our first bag of kibble – a 12 pound bag lasted about 3 months. We started with Merrick Backcountry Raw Infused Puppy – here are the details of that one again:

    Main ingred: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Sweet Potatoes, Potatoes, Peas,
    Natural Flavor, Turkey Meal, Chicken Fat, Potato Protein, Deboned Salmon,
    Chicken Liver, Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 30.0% / FAT 12.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O6 3.0% / O3 .3%

    It went over well, I believe. He always happily ate it up. For the most part he regularly had firm stools. Over three months he two small bouts of diarrhea that passed, and he puked twice – but who knows what caused those. As a puppy he attempts to eat every piece of fuzz or litter on the city sidewalks. So I think those are normal for a puppy. That said I think I wouldn’t know for sure how to tell unless a food was definitively causing trouble. But, as far as I can tell this one went over fine!

    So, for the next bag, I think I’ll go down to 4 pounds, which should last about a month. And I think I’ll switch the main ingredient (from chicken to beef), but stick with the same brand for this next bag. Then for the bag after that, I’ll switch brands, and stick with the same main ingredient.

    Here’s what I’m thinking for the next combinations:

    Merrick Real Beef & Sweet Potato Recipe Grain-Free Puppy Dry Dog Food
    Main ingred: Deboned Beef, Sweet Potatoes, Peas, Lamb Meal, Potatoes, Pork Fat,
    Pea Protein, Potato Protein, Natural Flavor, Salmon Oil, Deboned Salmon, Flaxseed Oil,
    Apples, Blueberries
    PROTEIN 28.0% / FAT 12.0% / FIBER 4.5% max O6 2.0% / O3 .3%

    then one of the following:

    Victor Active Dog & Puppy Formula Grain-Free
    Main ingred: Beef Meal, Sweet Potato, Chicken Meal, Peas
    PROTEIN 33.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 3.8% / O6 2.8% / O3 0.4%

    Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Puppy Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Peas, Chickpeas
    PROTEIN 34.0% / FAT 18.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 0.4% / 3.8% min

    Instinct by Nature’s Variety Raw Boost Small Breed Grain-Free Recipe with Real Chicken
    Main ingred: Chicken, Chicken Meal, Chickpeas, Turkey Meal
    PROTEIN 37.0% / FAT 16.0% / FIBER 3.5% / O3 0.3% / O6 2.5%

    I’d like to test out a higher protein percentage since he’s a very active pup, but again I’m not really sure how to “tell” after he eats the food whether it was more or less beneficial than the others, and if so, why.

    How do you all decide whether a new food is a step up, a step down, or just neutral?

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