Pure Balance Grain Free (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★☆

Pure Balance Grain Free Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Pure Balance Grain Free product line includes five dry dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

  • Pure Balance Superfood Grain Free Trout and Lentils [A]
  • Pure Balance Grain Free Salmon and Pea (3.5 stars) [A]
  • Pure Balance Grain Free Chicken and Pea (3.5 stars) [A]
  • Pure Balance Limited Ingredient Turkey and Potato (4.5 stars) [A]
  • Pure Balance Wild and Free Bison, Pea and Venison (4.5 stars) [A]

Pure Balance Grain Free Salmon and Pea recipe was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Pure Balance Grain Free Salmon and Pea Recipe

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 27% | Fat = 17% | Carbs = 49%

Ingredients: Salmon, salmon meal, dried ground peas, tapioca, pea protein, fish meal, dried plain beet pulp, poultry fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), dried carrots, sunflower oil, natural flavor, whole potato, calcium carbonate, salt, flaxseed, potassium chloride, zinc proteinate, vitamin E supplement, iron proteinate, choline chloride, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (source of vitamin C), manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, niacin, d-calcium pantothenate, l-carnitine, biotin, sodium selenite, vitamin A supplement, riboflavin supplement, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12 supplement, calcium iodate, pyridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 5.6%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis24%15%NA
Dry Matter Basis27%17%49%
Calorie Weighted Basis23%35%42%
Protein = 23% | Fat = 35% | Carbs = 42%

The first ingredient in this dog food is salmon. Although it is rich in omega-3 fatty acids, raw salmon contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is salmon meal. Because it is considered a meat concentrate, fish meal contains almost 300% more protein than fresh fish itself.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

The third ingredient includes dried ground peas. Dried peas are a good source of carbohydrates. Plus they’re naturally rich in dietary fiber.

However, dried peas contain about 27% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient is tapioca, a gluten-free, starchy carbohydrate extract made from the root of the cassava plant.

The fifth ingredient is pea protein, what remains of a pea after removing the starchy part of the vegetable.

Even though it contains over 80% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat.

And less costly plant-based products like this can notably boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The sixth ingredient is fish meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Unfortunately, this particular item is anonymous. Because various fish contain different types of fats, we would have preferred to have known the source species.

The seventh ingredient is beet pulp. Beet pulp is a controversial ingredient, a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing.

Some denounce beet pulp as an inexpensive filler while others cite its outstanding intestinal health and blood sugar benefits.

We only call your attention here to the controversy and believe the inclusion of beet pulp in reasonable amounts in most dog foods is entirely acceptable.

The eighth ingredient is poultry fat. Poultry fat is obtained from rendering, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Poultry fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life.

However, poultry fat is a relatively generic ingredient and can be considered lower in quality than a similar item from a named source animal (like chicken fat).

The ninth ingredient includes carrots. Carrots are rich in beta-carotene, minerals and dietary fiber.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With four notable exceptions

First, sunflower oil is nutritionally similar to safflower oil. Since these oils are high in omega-6 fatty acids and contain no omega-3’s, they’re considered less nutritious than canola or flaxseed oils.

Sunflower oil is notable for its resistance to heat damage during cooking.

There are several different types of sunflower oil, some better than others. Without knowing more, it’s impossible to judge the quality of this ingredient.

Next, flaxseed is one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

In addition, we find no mention of probiotics, friendly bacteria applied to the surface of the kibble after processing to help with digestion.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Pure Balance Grain Free Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Pure Balance Grain Free Dog Food looks like an above-average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 27%, a fat level of 17% and estimated carbohydrates of about 49%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 31% and a mean fat level of 17%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 45% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 54%.

Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

When you consider the protein-boosting effect of the dried peas, pea protein and flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Pure Balance Grain Free is a plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of named meats as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Pure Balance Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

04/02/2017 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  • Jasmin

    This product seems to be good but just isn’t for every dog. I had switched from science diet to pure balance grain free salmon and pea for skin allergy reasons and it seemed to be a hit for the first two weeks..until the 3rd week when it was time to buy a new bag I noticed the kibble was different, didn’t have the same smell and it just looked different. I put down the food for my dog to eat and she refused to touch it…(she loved it the first two weeks) seems like maybe they changed the formula because i went to buy another bag to rule out my first purchase being a bad batch but ….nope it really seems like they changed the formula. She was starving begging for anything but would not touch her food, she finally ate it slowly and after an hour threw it all up, it was a nightmare from there. She threw up over 15 times in one day. She was taken to the vet and long story short I was told to fast her and change change her food back to science diet but grain free this time, and she seems to be back to normal. I know science diet does not have the highest rating and such but it’s what works for us and has been for years. Cant judge a certain dog food, its what works for your dog. I’ve personally never had an experience with my dog as sick as she got after she ate pure balance for the 3rd week and it’s just that it didn’t work for her and her body chemistry. Every dog is different and as pet parents we go insane trying to find the right stuff we think is best for our dogs but sometimes it’s not. I wanted to her away from science diet but she has been on it for over two years and has been so healthy, cannot complain.

  • Darci1990

    Pure balance is a fantastic product! My cat and dog both are on it. The dog is on the grain free wet version of it, and the cat is on the grain free wild and free dry version of it. I’ve tried feeding the cat the wet kind, but she doesn’t like it. I’m gonna switch the dog’s dry food soon to pure balance when she finishes her bag of nature’s recipe. Both are so healthy and have lots of energy and beautiful coats, clear bright eyes, no itching, or hot spots.

  • Susan

    Hi Rose,
    it’s has dried peas 3rd ingreient then tapioca 4th then pea protein 5th its a bit pea heavy, I prefer a kibble that has another meat protein as 3rd ingredient then sweet potatoes egg potato then teh peas, Pure Balance would work in a rotation always rotate between a few different 4 & 5 brands so if 1 brand isnt balance properly or has something wrong with it your dog is not eating the same kibble 24/7 causing health problems best to add healthy whole ingredients as well to kibble..

  • Rose Anderson Johnson

    Why?

  • Jim Ressel

    wall mart sells pure balance

  • Sheari Lauth-Gandy

    Do you have a reason as to why?

  • anon101

    You may want to consult your vet. If you are feeding a quality diet and adding a topper (a bit of broiled chopped chicken or something similar) and water to meals, the multivitamin and calcium may not be indicated and some vitamins can accumulate in the system (not a good thing).
    However, research shows that fish oil may have some possible benefits.

  • Susan

    Hi Will, why not buy “K-9 Natural” freeze dried Greed Lipped Mussels & give him 1-2 mussels a day as a treat & buy tin Sardines in spring water or olive oil & add 2 small sardines to 1 of his meals a day, Sardines are very healthy & have Vitamin A, D, C, B-12, B-6, Caicium, Iron, magnesium, Saturated, Polyunsaturated, Monounsaturated fats…& he’ll enjoy having a smelly topper on 1 of his meals a day, you can also add fresh healthy whole foods as well researches have proven by adding 2 spoons of fresh whole foods reduces the chances of your dog getting Cancer…Green Lipped Mussels live in the clean waters of New Zealand, they have Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Omega 3 fatty acids. excellent for your dogs bones, joints, skin, coat, heart, brain….

  • Will Cook

    i have a 4yr. old Jack Russell…. does great on this product. However, i do give him dog multivitamin, fish oil pill, and calcium pill daily.

  • Susan

    When you freeze kibble then when you thaw it doesnt it have moisture from being frozen? this would cause mouldy kibble if you thaw a whole bag out at once?? you’d need to take out the amount of kibble needed for the day & do it that way wouldn’t you??

  • Deborah Lewis

    Buy it and put it in your freezer/

  • Hiedi Pierson

    I use Pure Balance Grain Free for 2 of my dogs and Rachel Ray Grain Free for the other 3 dogs. I wish the bags were bigger as we buy 10 bags at a time. The 2 dogs on Pure Balance had severe allergies, hot spots, yeast infections and seizures from junk dog foods…by using these 2 brands we have stopped everything including the seizures. My husbands vet always wanted to use meds and nothing stopped or got better… they never asked what he was feeding them, which was crap dog food. I met him and I changed all the food and got them off the meds. It’s been 2 years and no issues. Every dog is different, which is why we use 2 different brands… but once you find a good food that fits them and their body chemistry, life is great! I also put liquid vitamins on their kibble as well as probiotics…

  • Justin Spears

    I have personally switched to bison recipe for my Chihuahua and Husky Sheppard mix. They were skeptical at first but now they prefer this Brand over all others.
    The first few days after the switch I noticed their bowel movements were loose and soft. My vet assured me that this was just their digestive system trying to get the years of Beniful ( very bad by the way ) out of their system.
    My dogs are more energetic and the Chihuahua no longer has the dry skin that was associated with the previous brand of dog food.

  • Lqqkout

    Every dog reacts differently to dog food. My yorkie has an allergy and scratches so I have tried many different and expensive dog foods. Her scratching is very minimal on this Salmon food. Neither of my 2 dogs like Blue Buffalo because of the Nitra bites. They spit them out everywhere

  • Ernest

    The Pure Balance Wild and Free Bison, Pea, and Venison recipe seems pretty good. Some of the ingredients: Bison, chicken meal, turkey meal, dried ground peas, tapioca, poultry fat, venison, fish meal..not bad.
    Been feeding this to my dogs and they’re doing good and they love it. I’m also feeding them Earthborn Primitive Natural but found the ash content to be 10.2%. So, probably switching to just feeding them Wild and Free until I find something else.
    I also need to check the ash content on this.
    Anybody know what it is for this product?

  • Stephanie Still Crawford

    Thanks for sharing that video. I’m an avid label reader for my family and have been trying for years to nail down an affordable, quality food for our pets. My dogs have been thriving on Pure Balance for over 6 months, now. So glad to have made this discovery.

  • Susan

    Hi, have a look at “Taste Of The Wild” Sierra Mountain, Roasted Lamb kibble it’s a single protein, limited ingredient kibble easy to digest… Also “Canidae” Pure Meadow, or Pure Wild easy to digest kibbles with limited ingredients…or “Under The Sun” made by Canidae as well..
    You should rotate between a few different brands of kibble with different proteins, rotating kibbles makes your dogs stomach/bowel stronger… My boy has IBD & does real well on these brands…..also introduce over 7 days but I had Patch on both kibbles in 3 days since I started rotating between different brands, years ago I had to introduce over 10 days but now he can eat anything..
    http://www.canidae.com/dog-food/products

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  • Todd Sholly

    I do not recommend Pure Balance. Worth paying the extra money for a good grain free dog food

  • Todd Sholly

    On my second bag of pure balance. My dog ended up getting sick to her stomach. Going back to Blue Buffalo

  • LarryKimberly Cutler

    I will never feed my dogs this food again. Since I fed my mini schnauzer the can dog food called beef and chicken earlier today she has been throwing up. So here it is 3:21am in the early morning hours and can’t sleep because she can’t stop throwing up. It looks like natural ingredients has our business 100% it’s more expensive but both of our dogs never got sick from it. I just hate to pay $3 a can but hey well worth it if they don’t keep us up all night throwing up. And not to mention it is completely and honestly grain free. I got educated when I went to pet depot the very first time and bought it. Pure balance says it’s grain free but it still has grain in it read the bag.

  • Denise Preiss Dittman

    I use to feed my dogs science diet but my German Shepard was having issues with it so my vet told me to switch to pure balance. My dogs love it plus it’s very affordable (I have 3 big dogs). They all do really well on this food.

  • Raquel

    My dog is non stop peeing. Now he doesn’t wait. This is when I found blood in his urine. Was feeding him chicken and pea recipe for the past 6 months. Never had this problem before. Have stopped feeding him this brand as of today. Tomorrow I will consult with the veterinarian.

  • Michelle Bryant

    Yes, excessive thirst (drinking) and of course frequent urination can be a sign of diabetes, or other kidney diseases. I had the same problem with the 30# bag of Pure Balance Dog food, chick/rice, I purchased in January 2017. After 2 days I was very frightened and took my dogs to the vet. Luckily I stopped the food right away and it didn’t show damage in the lab work as yet. But I had an unnecessary vet bill. I filed a claim at Walmart with the store’s co-manager (who claims it’s not their food? Maybe they don’t know) and they sent me to their “supplier” Perfection Pet Foods who is a manufacturer and co-packer. I have not heard back yet and went to call the number on the letter I received from Walmart’s claims department for PPF (559-302-4844). Instead of reaching Rob Haynes I get a voicemail with no name or introduction that simply says “please leave a message”. WTH? What kind of company does that? So far I feel it’s a slippery slope.

    I am now going to call the web listed number which is a couple of different digits, 559-302-4880, and see what I get. There is also the name Kevin Kruse listed as Chief Executive Officer.

    On another website discussing ratings and reviews, there are several people who are asking about the same symptoms. My dog vomited undigested food and a ton of water hours after eating. The stools of my other dog became bleached. All stopped after stopping the food. If you’ve had symptoms and ignored them, I suggest taking your dog(s) in for blood testing. Do NOT throw out the food or the bag. It has a batch number and date. Do not turn over all of the food to Walmart or the manufacturer just in case they try to hide this. File a claim and turn in some of the food with the bag, take photos of the bag and lot info, get a copy of the claim you fill out, and keep all evidence together. We can not let this issue disappear. They will not want to undertake the costs of a recall. But their needs to be an investigation as things like melamine and phenobarbital, and aluminum, have been found in other dog foods that have been tainted.

    One person says that his 2 dogs died of kidney failure. Maybe they did, there’s no evidence. However, if it’s true, 2 dogs dying from kidney failure while on the same dog food is definitely 100% suspicious. We don’t have to give it credence without proof, but there are many others claiming vomiting, chugging water, excessive urination and more.

  • Christine Bryant

    Our dog was a picky eater. She was eating Bentiful until the scare with the glycol issue. Also Bentiful adds sugar to its dry food. I researched many brands through dog food advisor and bought a small bag of Pure Balance Salmon dry dog food. As I came in the door she wanted what I had in the bag. She gobbled her 1 cup and wanted more. She loves this flavor and her coat is shiny now. With the other food is was always coarse & dry.

  • Michele Williams

    Hi! Will they not ship it to you via the website?

  • Libby Morse

    Really wish they sold this in an even 30 lb, or higher bag, the 24 lasts just short of a month for my two girls, so I end up having to drive an hour and back to Walmart twice a month….

  • Kay Huggins-Stuckey

    For those of you wishing to know where pure balance is manufactured, it is made exclusively for Walmart by Ainsworth Manufacturing here in the USA. Walmart went to Ainsworth and asked them to produce a premium dog food for them. I watched an interview with the biochemist and manager of Ainsworth and it is comparable if not better then most other premium labels. They stated the reason Walmart can sell this food so cheap, is because Walmart does their own advertising. I did slot of research on this as I was concerned about food from “china” etc. this seems to be an excellent brand of food.https://youtu.be/evanNjm9YIk. You can start watching this interview at the 12:45 mark

  • John Martin

    About two years ago I began feeding the grain free bison ( and, less often the salmon) Pure Balance dog food to my then overweight and sickly five year old Yellow Lab. He weighed 130 pounds and could hardly get around. Fast forward to today, he is 100 pounds, healthy, playful and active. A good portion of his recovery I credit to his diet. Corn will kill your dog if you let it. Get off the grain and feed them the Pure Balance line. I would recommend it heartily to anyone who loves their dog.

  • Sherry Scalise

    Grain free is much better for dogs. Skin allergies are imminent in dogs that eat dry kibble with grains.

  • Sherry Scalise

    Feed grain free .

  • Sherry Scalise

    Please view protein contention all dog foods. Find out what changed and call the company. I’ve called them about sodium content and as long as you have the serial number or ode of the specific bag they can help you out.
    An older dog or non working dog, or toy dogs, unless growing puppies, should NOT have high protein. Check your reed and she of your dog to know the acceptable amount of protein. Many dogs have become ill and over time fired from too high of protein content. The wild dog foods are very high protein.

  • B Talley

    Sean, it might be worth while to find out where the product is being produced. Unless the package states the ingredients are processed in the USA, my guess it comes from foreign (China) countries. Many dog food companies use imported materials, meats, especially.

  • Dr Elainea

    Transitioned our 13 week Boxer Puppy to Pure Balance Salmon and Pea Grain Free and mix with homemade ground semi-lean beef or beef stewing meat. His coat is shining, he’s very active, get plenty of excercise and so far happy. He is fed twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening measured portions. At 12 weeks he was 20lbs.

  • Gloria

    I started feeding the Bison and Pea formula in 2014. My dogs ate it readily. Soon after beginning to use it, one of my dogs, who had had one runny eye for a year (Vet couldn’t figure out why) suddenly stopped watering from that eye! … The dogs coats were beautiful and they were overall a healthy group.

    Fast forward to last October. I noticed on the front of the bag that they had added Venison to the formula. I didn’t think too much of that. But, as time went by, my dogs coats got very dry looking and the younger dog suddenly had a seizure. (In over 50 years as a dog owner, I have never had a dog have a seizure!)

    Anyway, I took that youngster to a very holistic Vet who took a hair sample to have her dietary profile checked. To make a long (expensive) story shorter, the profile came back and she had several nutritional deficiencies.

    At that point, I checked the ingredients list on the bag of food and was dismayed to see that the formula had been changed from the excellent ingredients it had when I first started using it. It now has several things i consider to be low quality added. Very disappointing.

  • Brandon George

    I haven’t noticed an overly fishy smell, but also haven’t made point to notice it either.
    I will note this is by far my dogs favorite flavor, so much in fact it has basically replaced traditional treats. We keep a small bag at all times as treats between when this flavor comes up in the rotation.
    I really wish that there was an update for this flavor to know how it compares relative to the specified flavors tested.

  • Sean Muirgaen

    So I’ve been feeding my 3 dogs the Salmon and Pea dry food for well over a year and it seems to be acceptable to them and for their health – no noticeable problems of any kind and they maintain a healthy weight, etc.

    However, recently I noticed that the bits of kibble often have rather large white specks or chunks, often large enough that they poke out of the individual kibble. Today I took 6-7 such kibbles and was able to take out the white pieces. They range in size from a grain of sand to a sesame seed and they are hard as a rock. By all accounts they appear to be bone chips. I mean, I literally could not break or sever these pieces, even using a knife. The sheer number/volume of these bone chips (?) is particularly alarming – massively more than a dog would ever get just chewing a bone, and it’s in every meal.

    Also, this is not unique to this 30# bag. I recall first noticing these “specks” months ago, i.e., many bags ago.

    Has anyone else noticed this in the kibble and/or investigated it at all.

    I’m a bit leery at how hard it is to find any actual info about this Wal Mart brand food. I have yet to even be successful in discovering with any certainty in which country its produced.

  • Amber Taylor (Bozman

    I have used the chicken and the bison for a while now and mine have done great. A few days ago i bought a bag of the salmon for my two boxers and now they are peeing like crazy even having accidents in the house. Did you notice any increased thirst or urination? Mine seem to be having more stools as well but they are solid so far.

  • Amber Taylor (Bozman

    I have been feeding the pure balance chicken and brown rice or the bison and pea. And my boxers have done great on it. About three days ago I bought a bag of the Salmon and pea and now my oldest boxer is non stop peeing and even had a pee accident in the house. My youngest always pees a lot so im not sure but she has had a accident in the house as well. Im wondering if there is just too much protein or something in this variety. Anyone else noticed increased urination? Trying to figure out if I should stop feeding this variety immediately or if something else is going on.

  • Leah

    I have fed the Salmon flavor to my three for about 6 months now. They love it. We tried to switch to the Bison flavor, but it made them really gassy. Overall we love the Salmon and Pea recipe. So do the dogs! Lol

  • Leah

    I have fed the salmon flavor to my three for about 6 months. They live or. I tried to switch to the bison, but it made my dogs very gassy. Overall we love the salmon and Pea recipe. So do the dogs! Lol

  • Sunshine

    I started feeding the bison flavor to my (very picky) Australian Shepherd about a month ago. He scarfs this stuff up like I’ve never seen him eat in the 7 years I’ve owned him. I’m impressed with the higher protein content, lower fat content and lower price. I only wish the Pure Balance brand would be more transparent about production and nutritional AAFCO statements.

  • robyn Scrimger

    I just bought a bag for our 13yr Doberman to try after reading some of the comments I made the right choice I have been wanting to go grain free for awhile and was sure what brand to go with she seems to like it so far but we just started it tonight

  • Melissa Caretti Moyer

    We’ve been feeding the Bison and Pea formula to 2 of our dogs for the past 7 months after adopting our jack russell in May 2016. He and our beagle/jack russell mix are doing great with it. Absolutely no issues. He had severe skin allergies upon adoption and had to be on grain-free, limited ingredient diet. He’s now off all of his allergy meds. On occasion, he just gets a Benadryl, but that’s dwindled down to almost never. I swear by this product.

  • Kimberley Vaughn

    I also fed this (salmon n pea) for over 2 months, then my dogs got itchy (one scratched himself raw and was bleeding just overnight) I have a Great Dane, Great Dane mix, and a Saint Bernard and they ALL experience massive weight loss in a 2 week period, runny poop, and they got very very YEASTY within the last 3 weeks of being on the food (we started a 2 week transition to Acana after the first week of problems)!! A week after the transition was done and we were only feeding Acana, our skin issues are clearing up and they are putting weight back on!!

  • Amy

    I haven’t noticed it either, sadly that variety seems to be a bit harder to find

  • Amy

    I like the trout and lentil best too, second is the bison and pea. I don’t like the salmon as it isn’t potato free and my dog has a yeast issue so grain free with potato isn’t a good option for her. I wish I knew the rating, though I think it’s similar to the bison the protein is 30%

  • banchara

    oh my gosh…me too! only two of my dogs, but they are going NON-STOP. I feed the Salmon, the Bison, or the Chicken if times are tight. I guess I need to re-evaluate.

  • Brian Gosper

    Omg same here! Been feeding this to my dog for a couple of months and now last couple of weeks she is scratching like crazy for no reason. No fleas and I gave her a nice bath and. I better. I wonder now….!

  • Karen Arndt

    Curious about your comment about trusting Walmart. Can you share what the manufacturer changing the formulation has to do with trusting or distrusting Walmart? Ol Roy, which manufacturers Pure Balance, is a Walmart private label brand, but it’s not owned by Walmart. Manufacturers (of all sorts of products) change formulas all the time. I wonder if you’d likewise disparage Target if their private label, Boots & Barkley, changed its formulation.

  • Win

    Try the pure balance chicken and brown rice (eye and heart health). I mix it with the bison and pea. For the red eyes, I will be checking my dogs eyes.

  • Win

    Try the pure balance chicken and brown rice (eye and heart health). I mix it with the bison and pea. For the red eyes, I will be checking my dogs eyes.

  • Erica Glassman

    I have a 7 year old Maltese. And his face has always been very white. I give all 3 of my dogs Angels Eyes to help with tear stains. I’ve noticed since switching to the grain free bison that my Maltese has become very red with tear stains and saliva marks. Had anyone else noticed this?? I am very bothered by it and hoping maybe he just needs more time to adjust to the food. He has not been this bad since he was a puppy.

  • Jennifer Lynn Pate

    I had been feeding this with great results for several months. All the sudden my dogs are itching like crazy. I heard they did a “minor” change in the formulation and seeing many reports of other dogs reacting the same. Sigh.. I should have known better than to trust WalMart. Sigh.. Back to Taste of the Wild we go!

  • Sue Bayly

    I also use the Bison and my dogs are doing very well on it. Great coats now. My 1 dog had major allergy issues with her skin
    All gone now

  • Terrie Barber Welborn

    Is there a review for the Trout and Lentil grain free recipe? I recently started my lab on it after being on proplan since he was a puppy, he is almost 2 now, as that is what the breeder sent him home with and I just continued it. His coat was shedding like crazy and not very shiny. I ended up picking a bag of this up and haven’t looked back. After just 3 months, his coat is amazing, no more eye “boogers” and his poop is solid as can be and doesn’t smell near as bad with the proplan. He was also having yeasty ears and that has totally cleared up. I have a very picky shih tzu puppy who is on Wellness small breed puppy and I catch her stealing the labs food lol. I wish they had a small breed puppy food for her.

  • Kristie

    Thanks bunches !!!!!

  • shakti75

    I haven’t noticed a fishy smell, personally.

  • Kristie

    Does the Trout & Lentil recipe, have a fishy smell to it like some fish dog based foods? I recently bought the bison version in a pinch and found my dogs really liked it. So I thought I would use some of it in my rotation. I’ve used some fish based dog foods that don’t have a fishy smell and others do. While this has trout in it where as many others are salmon or whitefish based. So I thought I would ask to see if it had that really fishy smell to it or not before I picked up the medium size bag to try out….

    Thanks for your help in advance.

  • Nicole Dunbar

    Nope 11lb bag for $20 instore ($40 online) & a 24lb bag for $43 online only. I wish a 40lb bag was only $40 lol maybe one day

  • Nicole Dunbar

    Ur right they do sell the bison grain free pure balance online in a 24lb bag and thats $40. I wish this flavor came in 40lbs for only $40. Also i noticed an 11lb bag of bison sells for $20:in store but $40 online! Thats crazy

  • Brittany

    My miniature dachshund had been on this food since I brought her home last July. She just turned a year old and is healthy, trim and has a beautiful coat. She loves the Salmon Pea formula, and occasionally is treated with the wet food of the same brand. This is her primary food, supplemented with some fruits and vegetables(depending on what I eat that day) and has served her very well. It is affordable and I happily suggest it when asked about dog food brands by fellow pet owners.

  • Ken Hoehn

    You don’t. You found something that works, use it. My dogs do fine on the Pure Balance. Just so happens yours didn’t.

  • Ambra Dawn Halley

    If it is causing kidney problems with your fur babes, it could be either because you’re feeding them more than what it suggests, or that the pup has a protein sensitivity. Some dogs don’t need as much protein as other, especially if you dog is slightly-moderately active. Make sure to talk to your vet to make sure this food is okay for them and what their suggested feeding is based on the chart and directions on the bag. It does say to adjust based on how active your dog is. This is what I learned from my vet.

  • bethsheba

    It would not be right if I didnt post this here. I agree with the poster below who thinks its this food that caused her dogs kidneys to fail. I gave my puppies the puppy version of the grain free and they also started drinking more and pee-ing and licking it. Also scratching their sides (which is a sign of kidney issues). What is also weird is that my dogs instinctively knew something wasn’t right with the food. They grazed it and barely wanted to eat it. I switched to Merrick and they ate it as if I had never fed them before. Just an FYI to watch your dogs so that you won’t be slowly killing their kidneys thinking this is good food.

  • Joy Legan

    But. Why? Diamond Naturals has worked great and my baby is healthy and happy and lean and trim and digesting well. Why would I go switch to a food that gradually made my dog sicker and sicker. A food that I would have to add stuff to in order for him to not be sick?

  • riley hootman

    I would recommend it. Not one dog food will go right for all dogs you have to find the right one or ones for your dog. I think you should rotate foods every once in a while and maybe have 2 or 3 foods that you rotate. And maybe add some oatmeal for better digestion while your dog rotates.

  • That is usually the case as far as I know. just different kibble size, for both small and large breed varieties.

  • amanda

    We tried the different flavors out to see which one of the grain free my three dogs sizes tiny, medium, large all enjoy, tolerate and benefit from. I have studied brands, labels vs. cost ratio and even dabbled in mixing up my own raw food with venison we had processed and other ingredients added that were necessary. I won’t lie…the raw diet was absolutely their favorite and they were all raging machines on that diet, but the time, effort, and cost was overwhelming. This kibble is a comfortable trade. They enjoy the trout and lentils grain free the best. The kibble is small so my chorkie can eat it and all three like the fish flavor. (I used to add shed x fish oil supplement to other kibble and the raw food and it was fishy but they loved it). They are healthy, energetic, shiny coated, non-smelly, regular stooled pups. My collie even healed from a devastating fracture that couldn’t be pinned or plated with only 5 weeks in a splint. She may always limp a bit, but she still has 4 legs and she still runs and jumps and wrestles with my boxer like nothing ever happened. How is that for evidence of good health?

  • amanda

    My thoughts exactly lol

  • Bruce Li

    After constant digestive issues with other foods; I tried this after my Daughter in Law left a bag at my house, All 3 of my dogs are more energetic, and the dog with digestive issues is doing great on it, His bowel movements are regular and he seems to have no issues on forcing out his movements, which on other dry foods always caused him discomfort. Love the results, Highly Recommended

  • Crazy4cats

    They do look great!

  • Kennedy Brice Rachel Petray

    Both of my dogs are currently on this food and look/feel great. We have been feeding it to them for probably 8 months and it’s the only food I will feed. Everything else makes my terrier’s sensitive tummy upset, and bulldogs hair fall out.

    Also, I have had so many comments on how healthy both my dog’s weights are. Very lean! (: highly recommend!

  • DogFoodie

    The review that BC linked to indicates as follows:

    “The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

    Pure Balance Chicken and Brown Rice
    Pure Balance Lamb and Brown Rice (3 stars)
    Pure Balance Small Breed Chicken and Brown Rice

  • Elisabeth Snyder Kerr

    This doesn’t say it is for the small breed. So are you saying small breed is the same makeup just smaller bites?

  • theBCnut
  • Elisabeth Snyder Kerr

    Could you please post something about the nutrition of Pure Balance Small Breed Chicken & Brown Rice.

  • LabsRawesome

    Your guess is as good as mine. lol

  • InkedMarie

    I deciphered wrong? Guess i need to go back to school LOL

  • LabsRawesome

    No, she said she “ate midsinforming prople”. lol

  • InkedMarie

    ok….deciphering here…..”you know s**t and you are misinforming people……am I close? Do I get the prize?

  • LabsRawesome

    Is your post in pig Latin or what?
    Hahahaha.

  • Laurali James

    YOU LNOE SJIT AND YOU ATE MIDSINFORMING PROPLE. I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOUR INPUT IS GOOD FOR NOTHING

  • LabsRawesome

    I’m pretty sure a doctor would know the difference between meet and meat.
    And how to spell common. lol

  • Crazy4dogs

    Yeah, I’m not sure I believe your a Doctor either. Here’s a really easy to read article that’s from a traditional website explaining the protein myth:

    http://www.petmd.com/dog/nutrition/evr_dg_focusing_on_protein_in_the_diet?page=3

    Here’s a Purina study that dispells your myths:

    http://www.dogaware.com/files/bovee.pdf

  • LabsRawesome

    Typing in caps doesn’t make you right.
    Protein does not “kill” kidneys.
    Where are you getting this information?
    I am 100% sure that you are not a doctor.

  • Laurali James

    I DON’T THINK SO! YOU DIDN’T TAKE THE TIME TO READ. EVERYTHING:
    I SAID IF YOU FEED TOO MUVH PROTEIN!!!.OR IF YOU OVER FEED THEM PROTEIN!!!!
    TOO MUCH PROTEIN KILLS THE KIDNEYS!!!!
    SAME AS IN PEOPLE!!
    I AM A DR.!!

  • theBCnut

    Your info is extremely outdated and wrong. There is so much info out there debunking all the myths you have bought into. You have a lot of reading to do. Google is your friend.

  • Crazy4dogs

    I’m sorry, but you’re incorrect. Protein is not a problem for normal kidneys and moderate protein can be fed in the early stages of kidney failure as long as it’s a quality protein source.

    Your description of symptoms of kidney failure are not the symptoms of kidney failure. It sounds more like you are describing allergies or some other condition.

    Here is a link to the typical symptoms of kidney failure:

    http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/ClientED/ckd.aspx

    http://www.2ndchance.info/kidneydog.htm

  • Laurali James

    I am so sorry, the Vets don’t tell you not to overfeed, and especially not too much protein.
    Too much protein will kill the kidneys. That’s why is better dry food, and overall check that it’s not a high protein, also if you give them treats make sure they are fruits and vegies only. and have no ptotein.
    Some symphtoms are: bloated, scratching and having hot spots, plus loosing their hair or coats in patches. a smell (they are not supposed to smell), if they smell is cause the food is too strong, too much ptotein, or being over feed protein. The scent comes through their skin stronger the scent higher protein content in the food.
    The itching is not an allergy! it’s a way of the body to tell you that your kidneys are working to much with the intake of too much protein!
    God blesd you and your puppies.

  • Buddykin

    I have fed this food to my dog for over two years. He’s a very happy, healthy, Olde Boston Buldogg. Medium sized 40 pound.

  • LabsRawesome

    I use grain free Pure Balance in my rotation.
    My 3 love them all, and always have nice firm poops.
    I also use the canned stews.

  • LabsRawesome

    I use Pure Balance grain free kibble in my rotation.
    I have tried them all, my 3 love them.
    I also use the canned stews.

  • Cathy Theiss

    Yes. I for one, would really like information from people who have fed their dogs this particular food. That’s why I am here. Anybody? Did this food work out well for your dogs? Thanks.

  • Johnnie Love

    I’ve been using this dog food (salmon version) on my Yorkie puppy for a while now with no problems.

  • Joy Legan

    6 weeks on Pure Balance Bison and my dog is sick as.. well.. sick as a dog. We just got home from the vet.. he has more bad bacteria in his gut than good bacteria. Explains the bloat and gas for the last month. I will NEVER recommend this food. We are going back to Diamond Naturals immediately.

  • LabsRawesome

    The only childish post I read was yours.

  • Crazy4dogs

    And your point is to troll as many sites as you possibly can? Your commenting history shows a lot of nasty remarks on many various sites, none of which are dog related. Perhaps you should go back to trolling all the other sites you troll.

  • Doesnt get much more pointless than this. Bunch of children trying to convince other children that they are wrong. As if the OP was attempting to impersonate some kind of authority on the subject. Oddly enough, basically everyone who responded did just that.. lmao.
    Neh neh neh my vet has advanced training neh..
    Probably pushes science diet for $$ too.

    Thank you for making it harder to find any relevant comments or useful information that actually pertains to this particular food.

  • Hi Shawna

    It seems like every time we take an in-depth look at one thing, in this case teeth, some interesting information is revealed. I mean if A, D and K2 are a small miracle for teeth, then I’m certainly going to give it a try!

    The lady in your link was 16 years old and had great teeth. Then she became a “strict, low-fat, fruit-noshing raw vegan” and one year later at age 17 she says that her new diet ruined her teeth.

    But that’s not all I found interesting. She then goes on to condemn fermented foods which are considered by many to be a miracle food.

    She says;

    “Perhaps it was my raging kimchi addiction that kept me blind to reality, but it took months of wincing before I realized those fermented veggies were making my teeth more sensitive, and worsening the damage I was desperately trying to fix. And after a little research, it was easy to see why: sauerkraut and kimchi have a pH of about 3.5, making them extremely acidic upon contact with your chompers — and capable of chewing through enamel with the best of ‘em. That’s about the same pH level as soft drinks like Coke and Pepsi.”

    It’s like when you isolate some part of the body and discover some really exciting miracle foods, vitamins, etc, the euphoria only lasts until you isolate some other part of the body and voila, the previous miracles are now disasters.

    Anyway, thanks for the info on the A, D and K2 regimen. I hope it works and I’ll let you know what happens after I try it 😉

  • Shawna

    I’ve been oil pulling for about a year and half now. Problem is, I don’t like coconut oil so I do it about once ever three months. 🙂 Doesn’t really help much doing it that infrequently. I don’t know the exact, assuming many, mechanics behind it but I do agree that my mouth is definitely cleaner after.

    It’s odd though because one (or both) of the articles I linked suggested that saturated fats made things worse. When I read that my first thought was, saturated fats from CAFO fed animals no doubt.

  • theBCnut

    I don’t really know how this fits in the discussion, but when I started oil pulling, my teeth stopped getting plaque build up over the course of the day. If I’m oil pulling, I never get that furry teeth feeling no matter what I eat.

  • Shawna

    This is epidemiological but I think can be a good jumping off point for discussions.

    Perfect teeth, went on a vegan diet and within a year her teeth became pretty darn bad. Trying different diets/nutrients and lots of research led her to this conclusion (and she healed her teeth) – “As I learned from a few WAPF articles, three fat-soluble vitamins — A, D, and K2 — tend to be the holy trinity for all things teeth. I wrote a bit about these nutrients on an earlier article directed towards raw vegans, but the nutshell version is that they work synergistically to support bone and tooth health, boost calcium absorption, and shuttle calcium where it needs to go. My own experience confirmed what I’ve heard time and time again from other self-healers of teeth: this combo works some small miracles.” Read more: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/nutritional-cures-for-damaged-teeth/#ixzz3wsVExE1X

    A and D are not affected by heat but K2 is generally missing in the diet unless eating (**assumably, naturally) fermented foods, grass fed meats, egg yolks etc.

    ** Certain probiotics (I’m not sure which) eating certain prebiotics (not sure which) produce vitamin k2.

  • Shawna

    There’s not a lot of research on this but I think diet does play a bigger role than given credit however I don’t think it has to do so much with the macronutrient profile but how the nutrients within the food are utilized and if they are inflammation causing or not (this part could be genetically influenced).

    I haven’t found a ton of research on this but the groups I follow (Weston Price’rs) discuss this and have influenced their own dental health by following. As an example – by adding a high fat butter oil, high in vitamin k2, to my dog’s diet I noticed a significant inprovement in dental health. Price shows pictures of indigenous people eating a traditional, nutrient dense, diets with perfect teeth.

    This whole article is pretty interesting in my opinion
    “However, the literature suggests periodontitis is associated with reduced serum micronutrient levels23, 24 this may be due to a number of reasons including poor diet, lifestyle factors (e.g. smoking) and/or genetic factors which impact on absorption, distribution, bioavailability and synthesis of micronutrients.” http://www.bsdht.org.uk/res/DH%20May%20p18-21.pdf

    “Influence of nutrition on oral diseases

    Periodontal disease

    Periodontal disease (gum disease) progresses more rapidly in undernourished populations (5); the role of nutrition in maintaining an adequate immune response may explain this observation.” http://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/83/9/694.pdf

    I believe a raw diet is the best form but my Pom, Peanut, has always had dental issues. She eats a varied diet so the nutrient profile varies but she too improved when I included the source of vitamin k2. I don’t think that we can cure dental issue by adding k2 but I do think it is a part of the bigger picture. Oxidative stress also plays a role per these two article and living in our modern day living conditions definitely factors in to oxidative stress.

  • Shawna

    I too apologize aimee. It was late and, admittedly, I have been a bit sensitive when it comes to communications between us as of late.

    I would like to clarify though that the last paragraph was in response to your comments on “opinions” not on your comments about data taken from Dr. Hofve’s site.

  • Crazy4cats

    Thank you.

  • aimee

    Based on the research I’ve concluded that dry diets do impart a oral health benefit over canned but and it is a big but, genetics and hygiene trump diet.

    In other words the significance of the oral health benefit is small in comparison to other factors so I wouldn’t choose a diet form on purported dental health benefits except perhaps for specially made dental diets in certain circumstances.

  • aimee

    Actually I don’t think that we are really all that far apart.

    Where we may differ is that based on the research I’ve concluded that when looking at a large population any kibble has benefit over canned and you lean toward only special kibbles having benefit. ( I think that is what you are saying)

    Where we agree, and this is the much more important point, is that genetics and hygiene are much more important factors in oral health

    If a dog has great genetics ..hit the powerball lotto of genes, the diet doesn’t matter, kibble or canned, the dog will have good oral health.

    Similarly, if a dog lost out on good genes, kibble or canned doesn’t matter, the dog will have poor oral health( only to be modified by brushing and attention to oral health)

    The problem as I see it is when owners of dogs with great genes who only feed kibble believe that their dogs have good oral health because they are feeding only kibble. Or on the flip side a dog with poor genetics is fed canned and someone concludes that the dog’s poor oral health is due to the canned diet. I think genetics trumps food form.

    Special kibbles play a role… a tool in the toolbox so to speak, such that that dog with poor genes may have better oral health on a dental diet than on canned.

    For completeness on this thread I’ll attach the graphs I found from the Polish study that was published at a later date. The authors broke out the home prepared vs commercial canned data. .

    For dogs there wasn’t a significant difference between home prepared and commercial canned diet in regard to oral health index. There was a significant difference between home prepared and dry diet and commercial canned and dry diet.

    For cats there was a significant difference between home prepared and commercial canned. And significant difference was found for both the commercial canned vs dry and home prepared vs dry.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Hi Aimee,

    I know we will have to agree to disagree and I really don’t have the time to continually debate you. I did draw a conclusion of improperly balanced diet based on this paragraph the the study. The Gawor study states:

    “Poland has ∼8.5 million dogs and cats; however, its pet food industry is a relatively young market and is estimated to reach ∼10% of domestic pets (18,19). The pet owners’ low awareness of consequences of malnutrition on general health and economic aspects may play a role in the continued popularity of home-made foods. The so-called “Pet Smile Campaign” (PSC), conducted previously in the United Kingdom in 1996, was an attempt to enhance oral health awareness and to promote home oral hygiene in cats and dogs. The present study was undertaken to assess parameters related to oral health, dietary management, and home oral hygiene and to further elucidate the relation of diet and periodontal disease in a large feline and canine sample population.”

    My point in not discussing the 4 wolf study is that is really a very small sampling to effectively draw conclusions.

    I agree that in some cases, kibble may clean teeth. My point in the 2007 study, which I stated in my original comment, is that it’s the size/shape/hardness/specific coating of the kibble that made a difference, as opposed to just any kibble. That’s why some “dental” kibble is accepted by the VOHC.

    My point in the 1996 study was that chewing or brushing is what really makes a difference in oral hygene:

    “There were few apparent differences seen in dogs fed dry food only compared with those fed other than dry food only. There was progressively less accumulation of calculus, less gingival inflammation and less periodontal bone loss in dogs that were given access to more types of chewing materials (rawhides, bones, biscuits, chew toys) compared with dogs given access to fewer or no chewing materials.”

    Whether you agree or not, I think the overall benefits of feeding a less processed, more natural diet that provides moisture to the entire body is more important than any effects gained by a kibble that is designed to clean teeth. The mechanics of chewing materials, whether RMB’s, chew toys, etc., and brushing are the true teeth cleaners and preventers of oral problems.

    I do agree with your comment that genetic factors and oral hygiene do play a role in oral health. You might also note that in many of the studies, age also plays a significant factor. I’m not sure I’m buying your altuistic motives regarding the OP, but I think any further discussions should be moved to the correct discussion topic:

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choosing-dog-food/dry-dog-food-cleaner-teeth/

    .

  • aimee

    It’s late and I agree very very similar verbiage so I apologize..no need to accuse me of evil intent. It was just an error

  • aimee

    Nope not aiming at anyone… just a general comment. I don’t think I ever saw a direct quote from your vet posted here.

    I found this on line from a boarded veterinary dentist and I agree with him. “True, animals on soft diets accumulate plaque more readily than those on dry foods, but the only way to keep teeth clean above and below the gum line is by daily brushing.” And I’d agree with him when he said “Some believe when their dog or
    cat chews on hard food or biscuits, mineral deposits are broken down and
    the teeth stay clean. This is not true.”

    http://www.dentalvet.com/patients/procare/12steps.htm

    So this veterinary dentist is in agreement with the findings of the wolf study that you are “not even going to get into”

    Since I value published research over opinion I posted the research but if you’d rather have expert opinion well … there it is!

    Actually you can find others agree on that as well. For example Shawna posted a link and quoted from Small Animal Clinical Nutrition. She only posted what came after this:
    “Although consumption of soft foods may promote plaque accumulation, the
    general belief that dry foods provide significant oral cleansing should
    be regarded with skepticism.”

    And I’d agree. I think there is some oral cleansing and the research supports that but other factors are of greater importance.

    Looking at the Polish study.. all studies are flawed. I already acknowledged that. And yes the authors reported “its pet food industry is a relatively young market and is estimated to reach
    ∼10% of domestic pets”

    But that wasn’t what was reported for the study population
    “Over 90% of cats and >80% of dogs in the present study were fed dry or mixed food. This is in sharp contrast to previous data
    that estimated the rate of commercial dry food fed to Polish cats and dogs at 9%”

    The vast majority of the population in this study is feeding commercial dry foods.

    I’m curious as to why you say the study was dry vs homemade? To say that you’d have to assume that while the population readily was feeding commercial dry that they shunned commercial canned. I don’t see how you could make that assumption. Now certainly some were likely eating home cooked but to conclude all of them were is a huge leap!

    Then from there you seem to be saying that the observed effects seen were because the home cooked diet was unbalanced.

    Now I could see if a dog was terrible malnourished that oral health is going to suffer but honestly I think you’re pulling at straws. For example what nutrient deficiency or excess leads to increased calculus?

    The 2007 study you linked to which I have also linked to in the past reports that simply by increasing the kibble size 50% the amount of calculus decreased by 42%.

    So here is good support that dry food has a cleansing action on teeth, for if dry food didn’t have any cleansing action on teeth changing the size of the kibble wouldn’t have resulted in any change in the amount of calculus. : )

    Ok… next link you gave was for Harvey’s 1996 study You wrote “his 1996 study of 1350 dogs showed no difference between wet vs dry fed dogs” Mmm…. that really isn’t what the study said. Actually what it said was “There were few apparent differences seen in dogs fed dry food only compared with those fed other than dry food only.”

    And if you go to the study you’ll find what those differences were.

    “for calculus index the trend is protective for all five teeth in dogs fed dry food only whereas for gingival index it is opposite and it is mixed for attachment loss” So really the results were mixed.

    In this study they didn’t separate out canned from mixed diet from dry, they only separated dry from non dry. From the Polish study the greatest difference was seen when comparing dry to soft vs dry to mixed or mixed to soft. If the authors of this study had separated out canned from mixed dry and canned, and dry alone they may have seen something different.

    But regardless the results between the two conditions were not identical and the dry diet group had less calculus than the non dry group which again supports that dry foods impart some degree of mechanical cleansing.

    I’m sorry you saw my post as stirring the pot when the intent is to provide peer reviewed published information.

    Though I didn’t agree with the OP initial post what prompted me most to post was that my heart went out to the OP. I found the community response to be very unwelcoming and unkind in my opinion.

  • Shawna

    I would encourage folks to check out the link for themselves as there is no indication that Dr. Hofve is quoting the material I quoted from her site — it’s in the second paragraph in this link (your link doesn’t work) – http://www.littlebigcat.com/health/does-dry-food-clean-the-teeth/

    What she takes from Small Animal Nutrition is this “* Logan, et al., Dental Disease, in: Hand et al., eds., Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, Fourth Edition. Topeka, KS: Mark Morris Institute, 2000, p. 487. “Although consumption of soft foods may promote plaque accumulation, the general belief that dry foods provide significant oral cleansing should be regarded with skepticism. A moist food may perform similarly to a typical dry food in affecting plaque, stain and calculus accumulation…Typical dry dog and cat foods contribute little dental cleansing. As a tooth penetrates a kibble or treat the initial contact causes the food to shatter and crumble with contact only at the coronal tip of the tooth surface…The kibble crumbles…providing little or no mechanical cleansing….”

    Similar verbiage but the other was her words. If anyone doubts this, please do click on the link.

    I found this statement by Dr. Hofve most interesting

    “These studies show that dry food does not clean a pet’s teeth any better than eating pretzels cleans ours! At best, we can say that dry food tends to produce slightly less tartar than canned food. For cats, the benefits of feeding canned food far outweigh any possible dental problems that may result. After all, it is much easier for your vet to clean your cat’s teeth once a year than to treat diabetes, urinary tract problems, and other diseases that are either directly caused or aggravated by feeding dry food.”

    I have no problem with you siting research, or even suggesting that opinions are just that, but your attempts to tear the rest of us down at the same time does not go unnoticed.

  • aimee

    My comment really was more of a general statement regarding the unreliability of opinion. Everyone has one… doesn’t mean much. And then when people quote others opinions the waters can get even murkier.

    For example you posted
    Vet Dr. Jean Hofve
    “The kibbles shatter, …… ” http://www.littlebigcat.com/he

    This makes it look like Dr Hofve said “The kibbles shatter…” but that isn’t the case. Unless people followed your link, which I’m not sure was done, they wouldn’t see the error.

    That statement was taken from Small Animal Clinical Nutrition.

    Actually what Dr Hofve said is further down in the article ” At best, we can say that dry food tends to produce slightly less tartar than canned food.”

    Which seems, if anything, to be a bit supportive of the OP statement “… Ask any vet. dry food is better for the teeth than wet food”

    I don’t agree with the OP’s initial statement “Wet food is known to cause sickness…”

    Nor do I think that diet texture plays a large role in dental health compared to genetics and brushing.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Aimee-
    Aside from the fact that adding canned food to a dry could potentially lead to more dental problems than an only dry diet, don’t you think that adding quality canned food to a kibble meal has enough benefits that outweigh the potential dental issue to feed this way? Assuming that one brushes the dogs teeth and/or feeds appropriate dental chews and bones to properly clean the dog’s teeth.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Correction: Should have read approximately 10% of the Polish population instead of less than 10% of the Polish population.
    Sorry for the typo.