Old Yeller Dog Food (Dry)


Rating: ★☆☆☆☆

Product May Have Been Discontinued
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Old Yeller Dog Food earns the Advisor’s lowest rating of one star.

The Old Yeller product line appears to include just one dry dog food. Since we could not locate an Old Yeller website, we were unable to retrieve an AAFCO nutritional adequacy statements for this product.

Thanks to the generosity of one of our readers2, we were able to manually collect the data used to create this Old Yeller review.

Old Yeller Chunk

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 24% | Fat = 10% | Carbs = 58%

Ingredients: Ground yellow corn, meat and bone meal, soybean meal, poultry by-product meal, wheat middlings, animal fat (preserved with BHA), animal digest, brewers rice, salt, brewers dried yeast, brewers dried grains, dried whey, propionic acid (a preservative), choline chloride, calcium carbonate, rice mill by-product, ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, vitamin A/D3/E/B12 supplement, red 40, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, niacin supplement, calcium pantothenate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity), ethylenediamine dihydriodide, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, colbalt carbonate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, sodium selenite

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.5%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis21%9%NA
Dry Matter Basis24%10%58%
Calorie Weighted Basis22%23%54%
Protein = 22% | Fat = 23% | Carbs = 54%

The first ingredient in this dog food is corn. Now, contrary to what you may have heard, corn isn’t necessarily a bad ingredient.

On the other hand, although there’s no way to know from the list entry itself, the corn used in making many pet foods can be similar to the kind used to make feed for livestock.

And that can sometimes be problematic.

What’s more, corn is commonly linked to canine food allergies3.

For these reasons, we rarely consider corn a preferred component in any dog food.

The second ingredient is meat and bone meal, a dry “rendered product from mammal tissues, including bone, exclusive of any added blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents”.4

Meat and bone meal can have a lower digestibility than most other meat meals.

Scientists believe this decreased absorption may be due to the ingredient’s higher ash and lower essential amino acid content.5

What’s worse, this particular item is anonymous. Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, this ingredient could come from almost anywhere: spoiled supermarket meat, roadkill, dead, diseased or dying livestock — even euthanized farm animals.

Even though meat and bone meals are still considered protein-rich meat concentrates, we do not consider a generic ingredient like this a quality item.

The third ingredient is soybean meal. Soybean meal is actually a useful by-product. It’s what remains of soybeans after all the oil has been removed.

Soybean meal contains 48% protein. However, compared to meat, this item is considered an inferior plant-based protein providing a lower biological value.

The fourth item lists poultry by-product meal… a dry rendered product of slaughterhouse waste. It’s made from what’s left of slaughtered poultry after all the prime cuts have been removed.

This stuff can contain almost anything… feet, beaks, undeveloped eggs… you name it.

We consider poultry by-products slightly lower in quality than a single-species ingredient (like chicken by-products).

On the brighter side, by-product meals are meat concentrates and contain nearly 300% more protein than fresh poultry.

The fifth ingredient is wheat middlings… commonly known as “wheat mill run”. Though it may sound wholesome, wheat mill run is actually an inexpensive by-product of cereal grain processing.

In reality, middlings are nothing more than milling dust and floor sweepings.

The sixth ingredient is animal fat. Animal fat is a generic by-product of rendering, the same high-temperature process used to make meat meals.

Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, this item could come from almost anywhere: roadkill, spoiled supermarket meat, dead, diseased or dying cattle — even euthanized livestock.

For this reason, we do not consider generic animal fat a quality ingredient.

What’s worse, this fat is preserved with BHA… a suspected cancer-causing agent.

The seventh item is animal digest. Animal digest is a chemically hydrolyzed concoction of unspecified body parts… from unspecified animals. This product is usually sprayed onto the surface of a dry kibble to improve its taste.

The eighth ingredient is brewers rice. Brewers rice represents the small grain fragments left over after milling whole rice.

This is an inexpensive cereal grain by-product and not considered a quality ingredient.

Brewers dried yeast can be a controversial item. Although it’s a by-product of the beer making process, this ingredient contains about 45% protein… and is rich in other healthy nutrients.

Fans believe yeast repels fleas and supports the immune system.

Critics argue yeast ingredients can be linked to allergies. This may be true, but (like all allergies) only if your particular dog is allergic to the yeast itself.

What’s more, a vocal minority insist yeast can increase the risk of developing the life-threatening condition known as bloat. However, this is something we’ve not been able to scientifically verify.

In any case, unless your dog is specifically allergic to it, yeast can be considered a reasonable addition.

Rice milling by-product is a very low-quality ingredient made from the husks, broken kernels and other agricultural waste of rice grain operations.

We’re always disappointed to find artificial coloring in any dog food.

Coloring is used to make the product more appealing to you… not your dog. After all, do you really think your dog cares what color his kibble is?

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, we find no mention of probiotics… friendly bacteria applied to the surface of the kibble after processing.

Next, the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb. Non-chelated minerals are usually associated with lower quality dog foods.

And lastly, this Old Yeller food product also contains menadione… a controversial form of vitamin K linked to liver toxicity, allergies and the abnormal break-down of red blood cells.

Old Yeller Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Old Yeller Dog Food looks to be a very low quality product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 24%, a fat level of 10% and estimated carbohydrates of about 58%.

Below-average protein. Low fat. And above-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

In addition, when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the soybean meal, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing only a limited amount of meat.

All things considered, Old Yeller is surely one of the lowest quality dog foods we’ve ever reviewed.

Bottom line?

Old Yeller Dog Food is a grain-based kibble using only a limited amount of meat and bone meal as its main source of animal protein… thus earning the brand one star.

Not recommended.

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Notes and Updates

10/27/2015 Last Update

  1. As of 10/27/2015
  2. Kane Leung
  3. White, S., Update on food allergy in the dog and cat, World Small Animal Veterinary Association, Vancouver, 2001
  4. Association of American Feed Control Officials, 2008 Edition
  5. Shirley RB and Parsons CM, Effect of Ash Content on Protein Quality of Meat and Bone Meal, Department of Animal Sciences, University of Illinois, Poultry Science, 2001 80: 626-632
  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    By “old age” I assumed the poster meant that they died of “natural causes”, which is another way of saying that their various systems (cardiac, lungs, kidneys, liver, etc) no longer functioned efficiently enough to sustain life due to their advanced age. Same thing with humans.
    Don’t forget dementia, often age related, the cruelest one of all.

  • ScarletPhantom

    My vet told me a few years ago that dogs don’t just wake up one day and think ‘well I guess I’m old now … I better die’ … Old age isn’t a cause of death.

  • Ghost

    Yes Gerald, 21% is low protein… very low protein, even. All of the ingredients in this are… well… they just shouldn’t be a canine’s primary diet. You couldn’t pay me to feed this food.

  • Faerie DogMother

    They feed soy/corn to make a higher profit at the publics expense (health). Grass fed beef has balanced Omega’s and other life enhancing nutrients while soy/corn fed beef is actually inflammatory and overall not very healthful in many aspects. Just because it looks like food doesn’t mean it’s good for you. The book ” animal vegetable miracle ” explains how we went from healthy food (meats, fruit, veggies) to commercial food with less nutrients and vitamins – even though it looks the same . It’s very eye opening to see the slow progression of how they have dumbed down nutrition for profit alone. You can download the first compelling part of the book for free on any E reader. We are being hoodwinked at our own expense … If we are as smart as we say we are, then we need to see what they’re doing to us and stand up against it. Good nutrition IS indeed supposed to be cheaper than all this commercial stuff they’re selling us but they’ve rigged the system with “subsidies” and kickbacks and lobbying that only further the larger food processing industry. The book “Food Pets Die For” exposes every detail about why most kibble is not food -and why so many pets get cancer and disease they never had before in history. Cancer historically does not exist in dogs in the wild. Dogs bodies are designed to last 25-30 years. It is a fact that toxins, poisons, GMOs, growth hormones, antibiotics and pesticides and synthetic vitamins do the body no good, dog or human. They have made us think it’s ok that the vet bills are so high that we can’t afford nutritious food. Either the farmers get our money or – vets and MDs get it on the back end.

  • gerald

    I will rate you BITCH because you would pick an argument with a wall. And Dr Mike isn’t the only opinion out there!

  • InkedMarie

    Maybe you should read forums & such before replying. If you had, you would have seen that we post here. We don’t have to ask permission, we don’t have to only answer questions. You comment, we commen t, it’s how it works.

    You can say what you want about this food. Feed it if you want but it doesn’t make it a good food. If you’re inclined, type “how we rate dog food” in the search here to see how Dr Mike rates food. I doubt you will and that’s fine, your dog.

  • gerald

    I asked nothing? Especially not from someone who simply “thinks” they know what they’re talking about.

  • gerald

    Looking into it, thanks.

  • Azul

    Some other inexpensive toppers are eggs and sardines in water.

  • Cannoli

    I can definitely emphasize how money can be tight. I grew up poor with dogs. One of the things that I love to eat when I was young and even today are inexpensive but nutritious cuts of meat. I love beef heart, chuck steak after I trim the fat, pork liver, chicken hearts, etc.

    My parents fed them on top of their dog’s kibble. These would make good toppers to this food to add additional nutrition

  • Amateria

    You asked they replied, why are you making a big deal out of it?
    If you don’t like how people reply, don’t ask in the first place simple.

  • Azul

    If $11.69 for 20lbs is all you can afford to spend then don’t worry about it.
    But if you are interested, and can spend a little more, Tractor Supply sells 4health for around $20.
    It’s rated 4 stars, and you feed less cups per day, so the cost evens out.

  • InkedMarie

    The protein IS low and the ingredients are pretty darn bad. How do you know what people can afford? There are much better foods out there that are bargain foods; this isn’t one of them.

  • gerald

    Also, I have been feeding it for years with no problems. As well as many people I know. You actually have to be careful not to over feed, due to weight gain. Especially in the less active dogs.

  • gerald

    This is a biased and sarcastic review. Low protein ? Looks to be on the upper middle to high end of your basic brands that most people can afford. Doesn’t get much better until you spend a lot more money. And if soybean meal is such a bad source of protein, then why do meat producers feed it for good lean meat, and healthy animals ?

  • Defenseman13

    wait until they get rabies and you have to shoot them.

  • Defenseman13

    if you actually would ever buy a dog food names after a dog that gets shot in the end, then I recommend “Marley and Me” milk bones.

  • Defenseman13

    Domesticated dogs don’t exist in the wild. Try again.

  • Defenseman13

    watch the movie Old Yeller and go from there.

  • Defenseman13

    did the name “Old Yeller” not kind of hint at this ending?

  • Defenseman13

    Who seriously would buy this? Is there Marley and Me milk bones? After a dog eats Old Yeller, does he eat lead? LOL seriously? does anyone here know how this story ends?

  • LabsRawesome

    Congratulations you have successfully fed your dogs garbage. Just because a dog is willing to eat something doesn’t mean its good for them. Most dogs will eat poop, that says it all.

  • InkedMarie

    Those may be “big brand names” but they’re all very poor quality foods.

  • Janine Grover

    My 2 dogs have been eating it for years &they are both 4yrs old. My previous 3dogs had also eaten it (they died of old age if your wondering). As a matter of fact, it was the only brand they would eat, they even turned their noses up at Purina, Beneful, Dog Chow and other big brand names. Didn’t bother to try with my 2 current dogs. The only time I can’t find it on the shelves is when it is sold out- and by the way in case anyone is wondering, my dogs go to the vet for regular check ups and always get a clean bill of health

  • Julie

    Not discontinued, it’s at my local grocery store as of today.

  • Terri Stifflemire

    Can anyone tell me where It is manufactured at. My dog died after being on it for 6 mos .

  • theBCnut

    In the movie, the dog saves the boy, but gets rabies, so they have to put him down.

  • Hater & Molly’s Mom

    It’s a tear jerker movie thats for sure!

  • Dori

    Only in the movie. Not in real life. Can you imagine? ; )

  • Dog_Obsessed

    Wait, did they shoot the dog for the purpose of the movie?! I haven’t seen it.

  • LabsRawesome

    You were right about Old Yeller tho. In the movie he was played by a Lab mix. 🙂

  • Cyndi

    Yep, I just googled their names & they owned & trained Pal, the original Lassie. I always forget to google stuff.

  • LabsRawesome

    I have no idea. I just googled “what kind of dog is Old Yeller”? I just got that info from IMBd. 🙂 Google can make anyone sound smart. lol

  • Cyndi

    I stand corrected! 🙂 Thank you for sharing! Weren’t Frank and Rudd Weatherwax the owners of Lassie too? I know I’ve heard that name somewhere… My memory is not the same as it used to be.

  • LabsRawesome

    In the novel, Old Yeller is a Black Mouth Cur.
    Spike, the dog who played Old Yeller in the movie, was purchased as a
    pup from the Van Nuys Animal Shelter in Van Nuys, California by trainers
    Frank and Rudd Weatherwax. At the time of his purchase, Spike’s
    ancestry was unknown. In the commentary on the two-disc Old Yeller DVD, it is revealed by a Weatherwax relative that Spike was a 170+ pound Labrador Retriever/Mastiff cross.– IMBd

  • theBCnut

    My fourth grade teacher read all of those and more to us, but by the time I was in fourth grade, I could handle it better, not well, just better.

  • Crazy4cats

    I remember sitting in a circle on the floor in elementary school and the teacher reading this book. I’m still traumatized as well. And then….. I also remember teachers reading Charlotte’s Web and Where the Red Fern Grows. All tear jerkers!!! I did read Charlotte’s Web to my kids. My youngest son, teased me for years with the phrase, “and she never moved again”, trying to make me cry! (and it usually worked) LOL!

  • Cyndi

    Maybe it was, I don’t know. Looked like a yellow lab to me. & I know, that was a traumatizing movie. Too sad for little kids. 🙁

  • theBCnut

    I thought he was a cur dog. I was about 4 when that movie came out. I don’t know what in the world my parents were thinking, but they took us kids to see it. All I remember was that the dog saved the boy’s life and they killed it. I was traumatized for years.

  • Cyndi

    I know this comment is 3 years old, but OMG!! Lmao!! I so needed that laugh tonight! Ha ha! That was funny stuff!

  • Cyndi

    Actually, Old Yeller was a yellow lab. 🙂 I agree though, this IS a crap “food”!

  • Kara LeeAnn Cain-Hicks

    I actually read a fascinating article about how dogs wouldn’t actually eat raw meat in the wild. Dogs became domesticated by being near humans and eating their scraps, and ancient humans wouldn’t be throwing out meat! Even in the 19th century dogs would eat a mixture of meat trimmings, bones, and oatmeal. Dogs have not eaten raw carcasses for 10,000 years and have evolved beyond the raw meat “evolutionary diet” being pushed today. I have both dogs and wolf hybrids and it became incredibly obvious how true this is! I can’t feed my hybrids, which will eat the way a lot of people seem to think dogs should eat, any plant-based kibble. They must have high-protein high-meat kibble mixed with raw meat. Their fur falls out if I skimp on that (tried feeding them my doggie-dogs’ food when my wallet was light one week). But to help save a bit of money my doggie-dogs do eat a quality kibble with less protein (Abound) and they do fantastic. HOWEVER, that doesn’t mean you feed them crap. I won’t feed my kids processed foods and I don’t feed my dog foods with too many ingredients made in a lab. Anything that is under your care and cannot make its own decisions deserves to have the best possible decisions made for it. If my son doesn’t eat Pop Tarts my dogs won’t eat stuff like Old Yeller!

  • Columbia

    Yes, they still sell this sh*t at Kroger. Who’s going to give their dog feed named after a golden retriever who had rabies and was shot? Unfortunately, someone does, because it’s still on sale $11.69/20 lbs. That’s 1.70/lb. Poor dogs.

  • crzypplmeh

    I don’t think they’ll be healthy for long..

  • Storm’s Mom

    Oh, I had… the sermon just put it a lot more succintly than I ever could.. a bit of an “ah ha!” moment for me 🙂

    Anyhoo, I’m off to sleep now. G’night.

  • Ariana

    No I meant as to see the other persons situation about what the sermon said etc

  • Storm’s Mom

    1st time I’d been online (or at home for more than a few minutes, actually) since Friday.

  • Ariana

    I’m surprised you hadn’t already

    and my dogs are still fine no issues on old yeller yet

  • Storm’s Mom

    Hi Ariana,
    I just want to sincerely apologize for my comments of a couple days ago. I judged you ..and misjudged you. And I was waaaaay out of line while doing so. I’m very sorry.

    As it happens, today I was at the baptism for the son of friends of mine, and the title and message of the sermon (or what it’s called in the Catholic Church, I’m not sure) was “Think differently”. I shall.

    Storm’s Mom

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  • Ariana

    yep i calculate on how many lbs of food based on how much each pet eats amonth i rounded out all my cats eat 1c each wich makes it 330c amonth if i rehome the 3 makes it 75lbs of dry for dogs its 20c total a day makes it 600c amonth of dog food makes it around 150lbs amonth thats how i know how much to get each lb of kibble is about 4.4c so i go 4.4c times 100 makes around 440cups i figured that out on my own

  • Pattyvaughn

    I love that saying “You are not your diagnosis.” We have several diagnoses in my family, including Asperger’s and RA and while we may define them, they do not define us.

  • Ariana

    no i buy paws claws clay cat litter its 25lbs for around 2.99 :/ if not paws claws kroger 20lbs clay for around 3 if i cant get to tsc

  • Melissaandcrew

    IWow. In your area, its reasonably [priced. Here in NY its outrageous. A bag of the pine last me now as long as three of the large bags of Fresh Step I used to buy.

  • Betsy Greer

    You’re already a step ahead of me then! It sounds like you’re very organized and know exactly what you need.

    Andy is so lucky you found him! : )

  • Ariana

    i bought 1 month of food for 3 dogs i ran out sooner because we brought in andy i did not ran out of litter :/ and i just rehomed 6 cats in less then 2 weeks and i still need to rehome 3 i have my pets food cat litter etc list ready for when i get paid im buying a whole months worth it going to cost around 250

  • Ariana

    i buy 5 25lbs bags of clay litter wich last all month it cost 15 dollars a month each bag is around 2.99

    and i need around 150lbs dog food so 3 50lbs bags each month

  • Ariana

    I already have there pet food list done for next month i had to redo the amonts since i rehomed some cats and got andy so my food cost still is the same so im sticking with what i normaly buy but i just to need get less cat and more dog food

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  • butchroy

    I, too, let the horses and alpacas have 24/7 access to barn and pasture. They are rarely ever locked in, it has to be a bad snow storm before I consider locking them in. It saves not having to bed down the stalls, they are hardly ever in there except to pee! It cracks me up they will come all the way into stall to pee! Makes me so sad for the poor horses that are locked up all the time.

  • Tracey South

    Nice reply. I guess I also got too hot under the collar ; this is the danger in talking to people we don’t know , on the internet. We sometimes say things we would not say in person. (hopefully) I work daily on my own judgmental thoughts. I am not immune to it myself. Appreciate the reply and I hope we can both work on our passionate views. Logically, I realize that being passionate does not mean I should be rude. And, I can get angry but that is never going to help someone understand what I am trying to say. I am remembering a commercial that said “If you want someone’s attention, whisper.” 🙂

  • Tracey South

    don’t feel bad ; you are not your diagnosis ! I am sure you have plenty to offer the world, including caring for animals, and in my humble opinion that makes you A Ok. I am on SSI and SSD and I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and people also tell me “but you are so young” . Even children can have my disease so I have to let that roll off my back. I have a feeling the pets you take care of are very lucky indeed.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I think garlic in low doses can be beneficial. I know you came here for help and information. Just keep doing the best that you can. We all get passionate about our dogs – I am glad your dogs have a loving home.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I use the pine pellets from tractor supply too. My horses only come in to the barn to eat, so I don’t have to bed their stalls, but some of them do like to wait until they are in to pee. I just keep a good amount of pellets in their favorite pee spots and they absorb the urine really quickly. I use a snow shovel to scoop.

  • Rose Lenart

    Just a thought…not sure how it is in your area..But our shelter gets lots of food donations and what they cannot use, once a week the local food pantry picks up. They know a lot of folks are having trouble feeding their pets also. you might want to check with your local food pantry. both for yourself and your pets! Good Luck!

  • butchroy

    What a good idea! My tsc just had it on sale for $4.99 a bag! I use for my two horses and 8 alpacas. Usually the alpacas are wonderful and potty in a special spot outside but when weather is bad they put a spot in their stall and with the pee it makes a lake, thank the Lord for the pine pellets, it soaks it right up and smells wonderful! The pine pellets have been God send for them.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Hi Ariana-
    No, I do not want to know your income-that is no one’s business but your own.
    I want to know what the limits(budget) is that you set..in other words how much $$ do you have to feed the dogs for the month, and how much for the cats? Some people have a limit of $50 some have $500. If you give us a rough idea of what amount you have to work with, we can look for foods that fit into it, and perhaps even find some that have freebies when you buy a certain amount-
    For example, HiTek has a frequent buyer program-Its buy 10 or 12 bags, get one free, The grain inclusive is $33 for 30 or 35 lbs.
    Now Propac, while it has corn in it, is a great bargain-Their bag is usually 33lbs I believe and its $28.99-Now inside each bag is a $2 off coupon for your next bag,a nd you keep the upc off each bag. You staple the UPC to the card provided in the bag, and after 10, the 11th is free-Making the overall price about $23 A BAG and change. This time of year, they also have “bonus bags” being 44lbs each, for the same price. Love that and when I see it, I pick up a few bags to rotate in for the crew.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Lol. I was just sitting here thinking about Ariana’s situation 🙂
    From what I can pull from the other posts, its sounds like Ariana will be using about 100lbs of dog food a month-based on her saying 10lbs would last her 3 days.
    Ariana-lets start with the kitty litter which can be SoOOOO expensive in a budget..Are you opposed to using a pine pellet litter? If you buy it packaged for cats, its VERY expensive. We have horses and buy the horse product at Tractor Supply-its less then $6 for a 40lb bag(may be 50lb, I am not in the barn right now, lol) You scoop it daily like regular litter, and as they use it, it breaks down into a powder which smells pine fresh! It saves a ton of money and a bag lasts much longer..

  • Betsy Greer

    Good Morning Ariana,

    I was thinking about one more thing I wanted to add to what we were talking about last night when I was overcome with sleep! I wanted to say it real quick this morning before we head out for the day…

    I know you have a certain budget in mind for food, but now that you’ve added your new mix breed rescue to your crew, you’ll need to take that into consideration. You had mentioned that he was underweight, so he’ll be eating a little more than a dog who weighs what he does until he reaches a healthy weight.

    So, you might need to rework your budget and rethink what you’re feeding. Of the foods you’re feeding, I’d probably next purchase the highest calorie food of those in your rotation. Maybe you can calculate how many total cups of food you’d need for the month for all of your dogs and buy enough to cover them all for the month.

    Have a great day!

    Peace & Blessings, Betsy

  • InkedMarie

    I think she meant your monthly income for dog food, not what you make!!!

    I’d like to apologize to you. I’m sorry.

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  • InkedMarie

    I understand how you feel and I did not mean to chide her. I did suggest using the system I use, the envelope system, to assure she has enough money to buy what the dogs are used to.

    My apologies to you and Ariana.

  • InkedMarie

    Ariana, I have been in your shoes. Many years ago, when my boys were small, my husband lost his job. We had two dogs, one small, one huge. We could not afford to feed both of them and the larger one found a new home.

    I just now read a comment you wrote above, to Melissa, that you ran out of something, unsure if it was pet food or cat litter because you took in Andy. If money is that tight, you don’t take in other animals.

    I suggested how you buy dog food: use the envelope system. Its a whole lot easier to put a little bit away each pay day then to come up with the whole amount when you need it.

  • Crazy4cats

    I think your dogs are going to be just fine, Ariana. Good luck to you 🙂

  • Guest

    I feel it’s only fair to explain my actions and don’t mean any disrespect.
    I have flagged comments before that were along the same line as those posted today and nothing was done about it so that’s why I felt it was necessary to say something.
    I do understand why you would have wanted to edit my comment, but not remove it.
    If my comment deserved removal there are others on this thread that remain and should be removed also. Not saying I think they should be removed, cause I really don’t think they should and I am glad others decided to stand up and do the right thing, but I think it’s only fair that the rules should be the same for everyone.

    Just to put this out there also, I was not the one who kept posting over and over after your first post and I totally understand why those were removed. And you are correct, this place has become very negative lately, but it’s not because of my comments.

  • Please see my comment regarding this issue on the Off Topics thread. I will repeat it here:

    To all those leaving comments here asking for enforcement of our Commenting Policy — I hear you loud and clear and have addressed this issue.

    In the future, please report any discourteous behavior you witness by simply flagging the offending comments. Otherwise, your own public comments only serve to contribute to the negative mood. Thank you for your help.

  • Guest

    Mr. Sagman, I would like to know why my comment was removed? I was defending Ariana and as far as I know I was not breaking any rules.

  • Ariana

    is any of these better then gravy train

    retriever variety pack less then .69 cents per can less then 8 for 12

    Country Chicken Dinner:

    Sufficient water for Processing, meat by-products, chicken, beef, textured soy protein product, poultry by-products, soybean meal, tricalcium phosphate, guar gum, salt, potassium chloride, added color, carrageenan, vitamins (vitamin E, A, B12, D3 supplements, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, riboflavin supplement), minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper proteinate, manganous sulfate, potassium iodide, sodium selenite), choline chloride, natural flavor, sodium tripolyphosphate.

    Beef Chunks:

    Sufficient water for Processing, meat by-products, chicken, beef, textured soy protein product, poultry by-products, soybean meal, tricalcium phosphate, guar gum, salt, potassium chloride, added color, carrageenan, vitamins (vitamin E, A, B12, D3 supplements, thiamine mononitrate, biotin, riboflavin supplement), minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, copper proteinate, manganous sulfate, potassium iodide, sodium selenite), choline chloride, natural flavor, sodium tripolyphosphate.

    TSC also has 4health wet for .99 cents one of the ingredients

    Beef Broth, Chicken, Egg, Peas, Beef, Potatoes, Carrots, Dried Beet Pulp, Guar, Salt, Flaxseed Meal, Natural Flavor, Caramel, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Thiamine Mononitrate (source of Vitamin B1), D-Calcium Pantothenate, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Niacin, Riboflavin Supplement (source of Vitamin B2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (source of Vitamin B6), Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Calcium Sulfate, Choline Chloride, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide.

  • Ariana

    I don;t know if ruralking does coupons

    is retriever wet dog food anygood? i’m going to look at its ingredients
    and what about paws claws cat?
    have you feed any of the two brands?

  • Betsy Greer

    I think I’d go for the Diamond canned also, rather than the Gravy Train. The ingredients sound much better. Hopefully you’re able to find that affordably somewhere and I would suspect that the Rural King would probably have some good prices.

    I have TSC stores near me and they occasionally will have a coupon for a certain percentage off of any purchase in the weekly flyer. Maybe Rural King does as well.

  • Ariana


  • Ariana

    this is gravy trains chicken in chunks ingredients ironicly there ws a can near me XD
    water sufficient for processing ,soybean meal,chicken,wheat flour,modified food starch,animal fat perserved with bha ,dicalcium phosphate,calcium carbonate,carmel color,salt,then it goes on on vitamins it has yellow 6 in it and i didnt notice the onion and garlic on the way end of the ingredients :/ dang i do get diamond wet maybe i can get diamond wet instead i think its a dollar around there at ruralking but not sure or i can look online for a deal on it i know it dont have the junk it in and ironicly i have a can ingredients for chicken and rice diamond chicken ,chicken broth,poultry liver,rice flour,chicken meal,dried plain beet pulp,dried egg ,dicalcium phosphate,calcium clhoride,then it goes on on vitamins

  • Betsy Greer

    You go girl! : )

  • Betsy Greer

    You’re doing a great job!

    Ol’ Roy makes a wet food called Pure Balance that they sell at Wal-Mart for $1.00 per can for grain inclusive and $1.25 per can for the grain free. I know that’s twice (or more) than what you’re spending on wet food currently, but it is a very good quality product for the money.

  • Ariana

    I know that 🙂

  • Ariana

    Thanks sometimes i shock people lol I also argue with my vet on what i feed they want me to feed iams or hills um no thank you iams abuses animals in there labs etc and hills uses polyurathing as a coating to make it crunch

  • Betsy Greer


    God made you special, just the way you are.

  • Ariana

    Yes i get the chicken NVI dog because its the only one with out tomato and lamb or beef in diamond and i dont know what the 4health was :/ same thing with the cats ,i get gravy train wet its .50 cents and i dont see any of the bad stuff in it like i do pedigree wet i get different flavors in that and i get kroger ,true value kroger or friskies wet for the cats it depeands on my money and sometimes oddball wets from different stores i know not the greatest wets i get the pate kind wet cat food because that dont have wheat glutein in it i dont feed wheat glutein

  • Melissaandcrew

    Well let me be the first one to say that for a youngster you are doing awesome with what resources you have available.

  • Betsy Greer

    That’s great! Are you feeding a variety of proteins as well; ie: chicken; beef; lamb, etc.?

  • Ariana

    yes and sometimes i get it all at once it just depeands on how my money is each month i also rottate my cats it goes from 4health natures variety diamond naturals and anouther no grain cant remember right now

  • Betsy Greer

    Hi Ariana,

    Melissa wasn’t wanting you to share the amount of your income, she’s wondering if you have a specific amount that you budget each month for dog food alone. : )

    Are you feeding the foods you mentioned as part of a rotation? It sounds like you’re already making good choices. : )

  • Ariana

    OMG thank you Mike

    I didn’t mention it because its about dogs but I did borrow more then 20 it was 30 to get dog and cat food I got old yeller 50lbs and 2 16lbs kroger cat it almost went over in cost think god i have a kroger card

  • Ariana

    agreed 🙂

  • Ariana

    I hate to say it but its for autism aspergers.

  • Ariana

    I feed Diamond naturals natures variety or 4health depeands on were my money is thank you i’ll look at it later

  • Ariana

    I Normally feed diamond naturals 4health natures variety

    and i dont want to say my income

  • Ariana

    I’m 20 🙂

  • frankies girl

    thank you for saying what so many of us are thinking!!!!!

  • banishhaters

    I couldn’t agree with you more

  • Guest

    Thank you.

  • finally

    Storms Mom is the nastiest poster I have ever witnessed on The Dog Food Advisor

  • Betsy Greer

    Hi Ariana,

    I don’t know what your regular food of choice for your dogs is, and I’m not going to ask that you even share that information, but, I did want to share this spreadsheet with you: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNw5KB82-n_dGtyOEpVVXhPQ2tfeU1FUGdEdjVnTkE&hl=en#gid=0

    Granted, it’s a couple of years old at this point, but it’s probably still fairly accurate. You can view dry dog foods listed alphabetically or by price (including price per pound), either way you also see the star rating for the product that gives you an idea of it’s quality. Every time I look at this list I’m amazed that Diamond Naturals is actually cheaper than Beneful. A lot of folks don’t care for Diamond as a manufacturer, but it is a very good choice for the money. If you have a TSC or Farm & Fleet, or even a grain elevator, those can be some good places to look for dog food that’s usually pretty competitively priced.

  • Melissaandcrew

    What area are you in and what is your monthly budget? Perhaps we can try to help you find some budget friendly foods available to you. What do you normally feed now?

  • Melissaandcrew

    I am going to up vote this comment for two reasons-good job on saving a starving dog, and good job on borrowing the money. Too many people would not have been willing to swallow their pride and ask. I did not know you were on SSI-you seem so young.

  • Ariana should be commended by every member of this community for doing her best to take care of her pets on her limited budget.

    Chiding any guest because they can’t afford a better dog food is not at all in keeping with the founding spirit of this website.

    To those defending this fellow lover of dogs I would like to express my sincere appreciation.

    All comments berating this kind guest have been removed.

  • Betsy Greer

    That’s also a great suggestion, Tracey. I’ve heard others who have mentioned that they also add veggies, but they do cook and puree them first since pups don’t have the ability to digest them fully otherwise.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Ariana-May I ask how old you are? You look so young in your photo!

  • Ariana

    what happens if the person got the pet when they was rich then ended up poor and every time they rehome the pet it gets abused? think about different situations dog food or food is better then no food when you cant get the good stuff

  • Ariana

    sometimes its hard to put money aside if your regular bills etc kills yeah and I buy 1 month of cat and dog food and cat litter at once I ran out this month sooner because we took in andy and couldn’t get more food I thought it would have lasted longer then i expected because I bought extra then normal it was on sale there normal food I guess it was a good thing I got it on sale day and got extra because we ended up with a 4th dog a couple of days later and when we do have a vet emergancy etc its usually 2-5 days before we get paid or right after if its before we make the vet hold them tell we can pay the bill :/

  • Ariana

    beniful will kill your dogs kidneys beniful contains garlic etc has more bad stuff in it then old yeller beniful contain butain etc antifreeze wich old yeller dosn’t

  • Ariana

    thank you

  • Ariana

    basically what i think and yes things came up I didn’t plan I got a month worth of food for 2 dachsunds and 1 gsd we happend to get andy the golden/beagle mix 1 week after getting dog food and couldn’t get more tell i borrawed 20 dollars

  • Ariana

    it for 10 days tell i get there normal food i dont see how the dogs can sick sick from it for 10 days if i gotten the beniful instead wich was cheaper my dogs probably would be ill :/

  • Ariana

    we give the dogs tid bits that i know they can have thank you

  • Ariana

    Thanks trust me if I had more money then the 20 I would have gotten there normal food wich cost 5 more dollars I looked around my house for money couldn’t find none and for anyone wanna say i’m a bad owner no i’m not all my pets I saved them from being abused or even being starved back in july I lost my cat to cancer I cried i saved her from being abused and being drugged up her last 2 yrs of her life was great because i had her thouse 2 yrs and my dogs was saved from being abused or starved are recint dog andy golden /beagle we found him on the side of the road 25 lbs underweight no were nere houses full of worms etc in the 3 weeks we had him he gained 10 lbs i did buy 1month worth of food but I got it before we got andy I didn’t know we was going to get anouther dog and i borrawed that 20 so i can get dog food i get paid once a month from ssi and the person I borrawed the 20 from didn’t really want to give the 20 but they did it for the dogs

  • LabsRawesome

    Hi Ariana, anyone that is condemning you really needs to get a grip. Sh!t happens. I know what it’s like to be down to your last $20. Just add some protein you may already have like eggs or tuna, ect. You’re doing the best you can, so just keep it up. 🙂 This is a dog food chat site, not a courtroom, and you are not a criminal, like some posts are insinuating. SERIOUSLY.

  • It’d be a royal screw up for my dog, not me… and that’s precisely my point. HIS world MIGHT be in a LOT of trouble, not mine. Let’s try to keep THAT in mind.

  • If you read further up you will see that I did indeed give some advice (hopefully helpful, but who knows)… and have given a thumbs up to advice others have given that I thought was helpful. This is one topic that, admittedly, gets my gills up a bit, and yeah, I probably overreacted to her 2nd post. C’est la vie.

  • Crazy4cats

    Wow! If feeding your dog cheap food for a month or two is a royal screw up, our world is in a lot of trouble! Let’s try to keep things in perspective.

  • Tracey South

    also vegetables can be added, such as peas, green beans, broccoli, just look up online what you are thinking of using to make sure it’s ok for dogs. Peace & Blessings. Things will get better soon hopefully.

  • Tracey South

    are you kidding me? wow what a hateful attitude ! Shame on YOU ! You gave absolutely no helpful advice but had to take out time to just be mean and judgmental.

  • Guest

    I completely agree. I can’t believe how full of themselves some people on this site are. S*** happens to everyone, and I can’t believe that all of you who are giving this poor girl such a hard time over a lil mistake haven’t made plenty of them yourselves.
    Mr. Sagman, you really need to put a stop to these women who love to bash and bully everyone who doesn’t agree with them, or do what they say, or do things as they think they should be done. This would never be tolerated on the forum I moderated and I can’t believe it is tolerated here.
    It’s atleast nice to see Melissaandcrew and Betsy Greer giving some helpful advice and hope Ariana takes it and will overlook the negative crap she got from the others.

  • What happens if those dogs get an upset stomach (or worse) from going from grain-free (what she apparently usually feeds them) to, well, crap?! They’re obviously not going to go to the vet because Ariana can’t afford that either. Let’s obviously hope that they handle the sudden switch well, but if they don’t, let’s also hope that she’s got what she needs on hand to deal with that situation should it arise (though my guess is that she doesn’t).

    OR ..one can THINK AHEAD and PLAN… and put away enough money to cover the cost of the dog’s normal food. And never have to worry about this, or – most importantly – put one’s dog(s) in a more vulnerable position than they are already in.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Ahhh..but she had money for food-just not 5 star food this time around..and that is my point. The dogs got fed, just not what some of us may like to see.

  • InkedMarie

    We DO live paycheck to paycheck. Bills get paid and I buy dogfood by using the envelope system I mentioned earlier. I personally don’t care how rich or poor someone is. You choose to have pets, you darn well better have money for food.

  • That’s true. You find that level of food and care acceptable ..that’s a standard you’ve set as well, and a judgment you’ve made. I’m offering an alternative. We’re reaching for different extremes, it seems.

  • Melissaandcrew

    She is feeding and caring for them..just not to the standards set in your mind.

  • Or, when one gets a dog (or before ..or any time after), one can decide to financially set that dog up for a month, a year, a lifetime ahead of time.. and keep contributing to that fund.. a totally separate dog fund.. so that YOUR life circumstance never affects your dog’s life circumstance. Life’s about choices, and people need to start taking the RESPONSIBILITY of having a dog, the responsibility for that dog’s ENTIRE nutritional intake, seriously. She’s got 3 dogs to feed and she finds herself with $20 to her name and no food to feed them?!?! Sorry but that’s inexcusable, in my book.

  • Betsy Greer

    Hi Ariana,

    Now would be a good time to start adding some healthy toppers to your pups diet that you may already have on hand. Try adding some fresh eggs, cottage cheese, tinned sardines or canned salmon for starters. These would boost the nutritional content of the lesser product and continuing to add them when you switch back to your regular food in a couple of weeks will add the fresh whole food ingredients your pets need.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Sometimes life happens and things can not be planned for. Sometimes, you have a variable income. Sometimes, people lose jobs and then become under employed.
    Its easy to judge when we are not in that position, and hopefully we never will be. But if that should occur, I would hope that I would not be judged based on a few random comments on a website by people who have no idea of what my circumstances are.
    If you can afford to do better, you should be. If not, you do the best you can and strive to do better.If I were eating filet mignon, my dogs would be too. But, if I were barely keeping a roof over our heads, they would eat whatever I could afford at the time.

  • Melissaandcrew

    HI Ariana-
    Well, its far from the best food out there, but it sounds like you know that and its not what you normally feed. Don’t be put off by some of the responses here to you. Apparently, some people have never been poor or in the position of having circumstances result in living pay check to pay check.

    Sometimes its hard or even impossible to put something aside, but try to get in the position that you are saving a bit each pay check, so you are putting it aside for the following month, not the month you are in-
    You should be putting something away for vet bills also, “just in case”

  • Dave’s Hounds

    it is just as bad as beneful

  • InkedMarie

    I’m going to be a witch here. You own dogs, I read below that you have four dogs. You need to plan ahead for dog food. Its unfair for dogs to get crap food because you’re broke. Do what we do here in my house: start a dog food envelope. Every payday, put money into the envelope. When you need food, you have the money to get what they usually eat, not the cheapest food you can find.

  • Ariana

    my food contains garlic so i guess its okay to feed that?

    and its better then doggy bag and beniful i could have bought that instead it was cheaper

  • So you royally screwed up such that you don’t have enough money to buy your dogs food for basically the next 2 weeks, provide for them properly like they are depending upon you to do, and now they are going to suffer because of it. Nice. Give them some of your food, perhaps?!? Here’s hoping they do not require vet care within those next 12 days either. Seriously?! How could you put those poor things in this position?!?!?!

  • Ariana

    i’m getting paid in 12 days and if I bought mu normal food wich is a no grain they would have ran out in 3 days again i have 1 70lb german shepher 1 50lb beagle golden retriever mix and 2 dachshunds i dont see how a 5-10 lb bag would last a 5 lb bag has 22 cups in it that would last me um 1’1/2 days and the 10lbs has 44 cups in it and that would last 3 days wich then my dogs wouldn’t have foor for 9 days after that this is the first time i had to get a non no grain food in a long time

  • Your dog isn’t going to starve/die if you skip one meal. That $20 would’ve been better put toward a 5 or 10lb bag of any 3, 4 or 5 star food listed on this site, to get your dog started on a healthy life. You’ve just given a horrifically bad reason to buy a horrifically bad food.

  • Ariana

    17.89 for 50lbs in my area i just bought it

    and i had no choice i had 20 in my pocket no dog food cheapest biggest in my area

  • Pattyvaughn

    If I’m remembering off the top of my head correctly, it’s the mdr1 gene and it allows things to cross the blood brain barrier easier than they are supposed to, so the affected dogs are sensitive to several different drugs.

  • losul

    Patty, I guess that would be the same gene that causes some of border collie types (rarely) to be sensitive to other dewormers, such as panacur? I think I read that somewhere.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Actually, It is rare for BCs to have the gene to be sensitive to ivermectin and the ones that have the gene still usually need a dose at about 10 times that of Heartgard to have a problem.

  • bordercollie99

    Heartguard is known to be bad and in some cases deadly to border collies, do you research products at all before throwing them in peoples faces? Are you trying to get people to kill their own border collies? Do some research and find appropriate medications for specific breeds, it does make a difference.

  • Brian

    It’s actually around $18.99 per 44.1 lb bag

  • KarenC

    Thank you for taking in a needy pup and wanting to do the best for him! I would look at the 2, 3, 4, and 5 star rated foods and each month or two pick one to upgrade to. We try do that with some of our rescue dogs when we know what they’ve been eating (owner surrenders who tell us what they feed). It helps keep the stomach upset down and makes the transition easier on the dog. Beneful is no good at all, unfortunately, so you don’t want him to stay on it too long. Pattyvaughn gave some good advice! Keep reading around here and you’ll learn all sorts of good info.

  • Pattyvaughn

    It’s OK, I promise. Not the food, it’s garbage, but the dog has survived this long, you have time to make changes. And time is probably what he needs. When a dog has been on one food long term, it makes it harder for them to get used to new foods, especially when it’s bad foods. You will probably need to increase the quality of his food slowly, so just plan on switching to something new starting when you are about half way though each bag. Mix the new food with the old food 25% new, 75% old. Then after a few days mix 50:50, then 75:25, then all new for a few days, then start switching to your next upgrade. Keep looking for foods that are a little higher protein and a little higher fat. I don’t know how good you eventually want to go, but NutriSource is a good 4 star food that is easy to transition to. However, don’t just settle on one food. Rotating between a few foods keeps the probiotics in the gut healthier and they are a huge part of the immune system.
    BTW, as you are changing his food, if he should get stomach upset, adding a tablespoon of pure canned pumpkin will help. Also giving digestive enzymes and probiotics as long as he is not used to changing foods helps too. Human ones are fine.

  • Teresa

    Help please, I went from never owning a dog to being the owner of a 73 lb 3 year old Golden Retriever just 3 months ago. Long story short the husband died and the wife couldn’t keep him so since we knew the couple and my husband had been around the dog many times we decided to take him. I knew nothing and still learning. This Old Yeller food is what she gave us and said that’s what he has been on since he was a puppy. After reading this I could throw up, I did buy a bag of Beneful and mixed it in with the Old Yeller and he eats it just fine, but after all these comments I have to get rid of this food but what about changing again, I know that’s not good either. Should I just keep adding more Beneful untill the Old Yeller is totally gone or is that food crap also? Please help, I feel clueless and I want this sweet dog to be healthy. But he’s had so many changes, I don’t want to keep changing foods. But I will.

  • Velero Amande

    In San Blas i provide home made raw diet food like milk curry, bread milk and in nonvage fresh boiled meat. Bones included in a fresh kill are okay, and hold nutrition essential to your dog’s well being. Beware, though – never feed old bones
    that have been inside a dead animal for any length of time or that have
    been preserved in any way. The best bone is a just-dead one. A fresh
    kill rabbit or a whole, fresh chicken provide whole meat and bone
    nutrition. And, yes, chicken bones are safe to feed your dog,

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I agree that dogs aren’t meant to eat processed food and that a homemade raw diet is healthiest (my dogs eat a homemade raw diet), however throwing together some raw hamburger and mixed vegetables is NOT a balanced diet and would likely result in deficiencies and health issues if fed long term. Balanced homemade diets are possible, but they take a little research.

  • Husky&GSDlove

    First of all dogs are not meant to eat processed food so that’s why you shouldn’t even feed them Blue Buffalo. In the wild they would eat raw meat which does not harm them. Try going to the grocery store and pick up ground beef,veggies(carrots,peas,and corn), and maybe a little cheese. Mix it or cook it (which ever your dog likes) . Then watch your dog become heathy and live a long life!:)

  • Deann

    I just bought my Pom everpet dog food and it made my dog sick twice and it was mixed with cat food

  • Shawna

    Hi Greg Kennedy ~~ AAFCO nutritional adequacy refers to what lifestage the food is suitable for — “adult maintenance” or “growth and reproduction”.  That really has nothing to do with the quality of ingredients in the food.

  • Greg Kennedy

    Wow, guys, wow.  In fact, I did read the article: it seems maybe you did not, since you missed this statement at the second paragraph:

    “The Old Yeller product line appears to include just one dry dog food. Since we could not locate an Old Yeller website, we were unable to retrieve an AAFCO nutritional adequacy statements for this product. ”

    Well, I went and took a picture of a bag, and now you have your answer.  But I guess acting defensive is more important than having a discussion.

  • Bob K

     Bordercollielover07 – Please read the label on the bag.  Do you think dogs really eat corn?  Corn is the #1 ingredient.  There are other dog foods that provide much better nutrition.  You are feeding a dog food that costs about $ .50 per day to eat.  Perhaps a few less Starbucks, Panera, McDonalds and you can feed your dogs a better food.  Is this the best you can afford for your Border Collie?  I guess Old Yeller beats starvation.  Do you have your dog on a monthly parasite preventative like Heartguard?  How about a Monthly Flea and Tick preventative like Frontline?   

  • Shawna

    Bordercollielover07 ~~ there are three ingredients in this food that the FDA says is known to potentially be contaminated with the euthanasia drug pentobarbital.

    “There appear to be associations between rendered or hydrolyzed ingredients and the presence of pentobarbital in dog food. The ingredients Meat and Bone Meal (MBM), Beef and Bone Meal (BBM), Animal Fat (AF), and Animal Digest (AD) are rendered or hydrolyzed from animal sources that could include euthanized animals.”  http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CVM/CVMFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/ucm129134.htm

    The US Fish & Wildlife Service says pento is a “POISON” and should not be used in animal feed..

    “Rendering is not an acceptable way to dispose of a pentobarbital-tainted carcass. The drug residues are not destroyed in the rendering process, so the tissues and by-products may contain poison and must not be used for animal feed….

    All pentobarbital-euthanized carcasses should be prominently tagged with one or more highly-visible “POISON” warning labels. Bagged animals should have a label affixed to the carcass itself and also attached to the outside of the bag.” http://cpharm.vetmed.vt.edu/USFWS/USFWSFPentobarbFactSheet.pdf

    The long term consequences of this slow poisoning could be substantial.

  • InkedMarie

    Look at it this way. You could eat Burger King or McDonalds for every meal, every day, for your entire life. You may think you’re healthy but you may not be. Remember the old saying, “you are what you eat”? Well, it’s true in this instance. I can guarantee you that there are better foods out there that you can afford for your dogs. The question is, do you WANT to feed them better? There’s a reason you found the Dog Food Advisor; could that be that you want a better food for your dogs?

  • Bordercollielover07

    I’ve been feeding my three dogs Old Yeller since they were puppies, and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with them. They’re happy, energetic, and, as far as my vet can tell, healthy.

  • Swishyfish2003

    Their slogan should be:
    “Old Yeller dog food. You’ll need to shoot your dog after you feed it our food!”

  • Mike P

    Art this ain’t Old Yeller’s website.This site “Dog Food Advisor” helps people find out what a awful food Old Yeller is.You would have to call the evil manufactures of this garbage to find out why they raised prices and lowered the amount in the bag.I would imagine they ran low on RED 40 or had a shortage of animal hoofs,heads,feathers or the local zoo didn’t have any animals die recently from some horrible disease.Maybe the rednecks just ain’t picking up anymore roadkill to drop off at the Old Yeller factory.I am sure they would be able to give you an answer if you call them. I’m sorry my DFA friends but I couldn’t help myself.

  • Art

    I like your dog food for our pets. But have you raised the price and cut the amount to 44.1 lbs and using the same size bag.

  • joel

    These dog owners that spend only 6-9 dollars for a 50 lb bag of food : are they that dumb not to ask:” why is this stuff so cheap?”..Answer: coz its made for dumb owners like YOU.People who make purchases like that do NOT deserve to be dog owners..they should be charged with one count of felony animal abuse..

  • Victoria

    Ironically, this “food” is probably made of poor old yeller

  • Bob K

    Brenda – You need to start visiting other stores for Dog Food. Perhaps Menards, Tractor Supply, Costco, Farm & Fleet. Costco has several formulas of Kirklands that is a 4 star food. Menards carries Diamond Natural (4 Stars) and Nutro Max (3 Stars) products. There are many foods evaluated on this website, whats available in your area? Time to do some comparison shopping.

  • Brenda K

    Anyone Help me real good dog food i have old yeller dog food now at Kroger 14.00 dollars and My Husband is not work 3 years laid off and Please Help us What kind a Good Dog Food Thank You

  • canine2011

    Each pet is unique like we humans. While I personally will not feed this food to my own dogs what someone chooses to feed their animal is their business. Like some people some dogs do just fine on any food. If someones dog has lived to be 17 yrs old and has always ate a “bad” food—-without medical issues—- I would venture to guess that the food had little effect on the dogs health.

  • Gordon

    Ahh Ok I see Meagan and Antonio. Gee, so they decided to name a concoction of utter garbage after this Walt Disney movie dog’s name, and call it dog food?

  • Antonio

    Correction—– I feel dumb, but Old Yeller wasn’t a mix. According to online sources he was actually a black mouth cur.. hmm.. go figure

  • Antonio

    Old Yeller a classic Disney movie, I watched over the Christmas Holidays sure does bring back memories LOL. That dog was one of the toughest Yellow Lab/Mastiff mixe ever made. To bad Travis had to put him down after that wolf gave him rabies.

  • Meagan

    Gordon- Old yeller was a yellow lab dog that these kids found as a stray. Great dog, fought a rabid coyote one night to protect the family and old yeller had to be shot as he of course became rabid. 🙁 Sad movie.

  • Gordon

    Ahh so Old Yeller was named after an actual person. Yeah, sounds like he was an old codger. So Jonathan, you think maybe the company is putting bits and pieces of him in the anonymous meat and bone meal, in accordance with his Will? lol

  • Jonathan

    Well, I’d say, Kathy, you should feel more ripped off by now seeing what the food actually IS… Never-mind the cost per pound, this stuff is a bag full of industrial poison. Old Yeller is probably turning over in his grave. If I remember the film correctly, he helped the eldest son with hunting boar in the days before kibble, so I betcha he ate fresh game meat. What’s sad is that with 3 generic mammal ingredients, you probably ARE feeding your dog “Old Yeller”. Along with Bitsy, Spot, Rover, and any other dogs that were put down or hit by a semi-truck near a rendering plant… Ewwwww.

  • Mike P

    I live in a rural area so if you will , let me tell you what kathy is saying… She done feels ripped off by Old Yeller for charging more money for less food …I got your back Kathy …

  • Gordon

    No Shameless – That aint me. Besides, I must be missing the humour? All I can read is someone who’s grammar aint up to scratch!

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Now that’s some humor! Hmmmm….. Kathy SIZEMORE ! ? Gordon – is that YOU up to some American Holiday antics?

  • kathy sizemore

    i just went got some old yellow dog food way did you lower the amount in bag it cost plenty all ready if you going lowder amount you should lowder prize or sent us coupond


  • Jonathan

    My point exactly, Melissa. The only foods you ever see advertise on the front of the bag “Complete and Balanced!” in big bold print, as if it’s some unique feature, are the cheap, big-business crap foods. They advertise the fact that they meet the MINIMUM standard as if it was some special benefit. The advertising creeps just love that kind of crap. I can hear then now… “Oooh let’s use part of the AAFCO adequacy statement on the front of the bag next to a picture of a nice, healthy looking corn, wheat, and fresh chicken breasts!”

  • melissa

    In all fairness, being “appropriate” to feed to ones pet is NOT the same as meeting the AAFCO guidelines for “complete and balanced”. The guidelines simply mean that it provides,according to the standard, the necessary vitamins/minerals to substain life.

    I remember a few years ago, a report coming out about dog foods-and in it, they were stating that one food is not better than another, that ALL foods on the market are supposed to be “complete and balanced” and as long as that AAFCO standard is met, the food was just as good as the next. I don;t recall who did the report, but it was obvious in my mind at that time, that it had to be a big box company using inferior ingrediants. The reason I mention this, is that it would appear that many people have read that as well, and simply take it at face value.

  • Jonathan

    Greg, you pose yourself as an intelligent guy with your clever comment and picture. How about you try reading the description above of what this hot trash is made from? I defy any intelligent person to read the above review, see that this food is made from by-products, industrial trash, and cancer-causing chemicals, and still defend it as a suitable food for any animal.

  • Michelle
  • Michelle

    To: Greg Kennedy, I suspect that you left a comment just to get your website some publicity.(click on his name)Because anyone with any type of knowledge about dog food ingredients would never argue that “Old Yeller” dog food is complete and balanced.There is not even one decent ingredient in this so called “food”. I could mix up shoe leather,motor oil,and wood chips,and get an acceptable protein and fat percentage that would meet AAFCO guidelines. Trust me, I know about being low on cash sometimes,but their are much better foods out there.Kirkland Signature (Costco) is one. It is $25.00 for a 40lb bag. And their puppy formula,which has identical ingredients, is $12.00 for a 20lb bag. Ingredients: Chicken,Chicken meal,whole brown rice,cracked pearled barley,Chicken fat,egg product. The difference between these two foods is night and day.Don’t have a Costco card? Go with a friend or relative that has one. Or check out Tractor Supply’s 4health. It is $29.99 for 35lbs. Want to learn how to read a dog food label? Check out ” The dog food project ” OR look around on this website.

  • Scott

    Old Yeller is turning over in his grave for having his name on this garbage.

  • Bob K

    Greg Kennedy – We know you can read, use a computer and a camera. How about spending a little time reading the detailed report above. What are you feeding your dog? Why? because its cheap and meets some min. std? I see a photo of baby in your picture? Do you care what you feed them? Do you know what the AAFCO guidelines are?

  • Greg Kennedy

    FYI: the packaging indicates that this dog food is “Complete and Balanced”, and the back text shows that it is formulated to meet AAFCO guidelines for all life stages. Here’s a photo:


  • Jonathan

    Thank you, Pat, for giving a dog a second chance.

    We all have to make hard decisions sometimes. But there is always a better decision to make than sacrificing your dog’s nutrition. Food is so important… it’s what makes us… literally.

    Your body reproduces cells by the millions… and where do you think these cells come from? That’s right. Food.

    Please, folks, be aware that there are three and four star foods out there that are not very expensive… and they are a far better alternative than feeding your dog food made almost entirely from by-products of agriculture and meat packing.

    plus, the cost of vet bills to come will be decreased significantly with a better food.

  • Pat

    brenda, you said this: “sometimes we are forced to do things we really don’t want to do . . . . when you have 2 dogs, get laid off for long periods of time, its either feed what you can afford or get rid of the dogs . . . . ” I am grateful to you for those comments because I adopted an 8 year old Lab/Rottweiler mix three months ago from a shelter because the previous owner was feeding Old Yeller, lost her job, and, I suspect, her house, and I was the fortunate person to get this magnificent animal. I have been wracking my brain trying to figurre out how anyone could give up this dog, but your comments smacked me right on the side of my head. I only wish this person knew that I will take care of this dog for the rest of her life. I am feeding her Wellness CORE only because I am retired and am able to afford this food with some planning. I only hope it is not too late to improve her health for the next years. But I do feel bad for the family that had to give her up. How traumatic that must have been.

  • TW

    Iams had 27 dry dog and dry cat items removed from grocery stores’ shelves in August of 2010. Half started shipping to stores a couple of months ago, and the other half are trickling back into stores only now. These don’t include the varieties of veterinary and some specialized dry pet foods that were officially recalled.

  • Jonathan

    Further more, this food is not “the best value out there” unless you are strictly speaking cost of “food” per pound. If you mean value as a measure of quality versus price, then you were sadly mistaken. Feeding this food to your dog would be like feeding you kids out of the dumpster of McDonald’s.

  • Bob K

    Brenda – You blame dog food with recall dates that don’t match for a 17 year old Lab? Are you serious? And you fed them this crap for years.

  • Jonathan

    Brenda, Sportmix is 14.99 for 40lbs and its a better food than this.

  • brenda

    with financial circumstances changing the last few years with this economy- sometimes we are forced to do things we really dont want to do. Ol Yeller is the best value out there ( price for 50 pounds) and when you have 2 large dogs, get laid off for long periods of time, its either feed them what you can afford or get rid of the dogs which is not an option.

    My dogs did great with it for years- until the recall and I had to put my 17 year old lab down ( I believe it was from bad dog food-even though the recall dates were not the same).

    I am going to put my other dog on Authority now.

  • Jim H

    This junk is sold by a company called Kroger (kroger.com), which is in grocery, department store, real estate and many other businesses. I also couldn’t track down an Old Yeller site, but it’s apparently made by Inter-American Products under the “Delight Products” banner. (interamericanproducts.com/products/grocery/petfood.htm)
    There are just SO many better choices out there I can’t imagine why anyone would want to inflict this horrible and dangerous food on their pet.

  • Melissa

    Gee ,now why was I not shocked when I read this?