Tripett Dog Food (Canned)

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Rating: ★★★★★

Tripett Dog Food earns the Advisor’s highest rating of 5 stars.

The Tripett product line includes four canned dog foods. Feeding instructions posted on the company website advise…

“Tripett is intended to be supplemented with good quality dry or raw dog food.”1

For this reason, we must assume the product is not designed to meet AAFCO nutritional profiles as a “complete and balanced” dog food when fed as the sole menu item in a canine diet.

  • Tripett Original Green Beef Tripe
  • Tripett New Zealand Green Lamb Tripe
  • Tripett New Zealand Green Venison Tripe
  • Tripett Green Beef Tripe, Duck and Salmon

Tripett New Zealand Green Lamb Tripe was selected to represent the others in the line for this review.

Tripett New Zealand Green Lamb Tripe

Canned Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 55% | Fat = 30% | Carbs = 8%

Ingredients: New Zealand lamb tripe, water, garlic, vegetable gum, menhaden fish oil, glucosamine, chondroitin

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 2.5%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis11%6%NA
Dry Matter Basis55%30%8%
Calorie Weighted Basis41%54%6%

The first ingredient in this dog food lists lamb tripe. Tripe usually consists of the first three chambers of an animal’s stomach. As repulsive as it may seem to us humans, tripe is favored by dogs and sometimes even includes the stomach’s contents.

In any case, lamb meat (including tripe) is naturally rich in all ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.

The second ingredient lists water, which adds nothing but moisture to this food. Water is a routine finding in most canned dog foods.

The third ingredient is garlic can be a controversial item. Although most experts favor the ingredient for its numerous health benefits, garlic (in rare cases) has been linked to Heinz body anemia in dogs.2

However, the limited professional literature we surveyed provided no definitive warnings regarding the use of garlic — especially when used in small amounts (as it likely is here).

The fourth ingredient is vegetable gum, a plant-based gelling or thickening agent used in many wet pet foods.

Vegetable gum can add a notable amount of dietary fiber to a recipe.

The fifth ingredient is menhaden oil. Menhaden are small ocean fish related to herring. Their oil is naturally rich in the prized EPA and DHA type of omega-3 fatty acids, two high quality fats boasting the highest bio-availability to both dogs and humans.

What’s more, in their mid-depth habitat, menhaden are not exposed to mercury contamination as is typical with deeper water species.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With one notable exception

We find no added vitamins or minerals on the ingredients list. This is yet another reason this food appears to be for supplemental use only.

Tripett Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Like similar designs, this Tripett dog food is unique in its simplicity.

But being 100% meat, the product was never intended to be fed as a complete and balanced canine diet.

Tripett is a supplement — and a supplement only.

Because they probably lack some essential nutrients, supplemental dog foods should not be fed continuously as the sole item in a dog’s diet.

We prefer to use a product like this as a special treat. Or as an appetizing topper to be served over a dry kibble.

In any case, judging by its ingredients alone, Tripett appears to be a quality product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 55%, a fat level of 30% and estimated carbohydrates of about 8%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 54% and a mean fat level of 30%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 9% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 55%.

Above-average protein. Above-average fat. And very low carbs when compared to a typical canned dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a canned product containing an abundant amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Tripett Dog Food is a meat-based canned product using an abundance of beef, venison or lamb tripe as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand five stars.

Enthusiastically recommended.

However, it’s important to note that some of the recipes in this product line appear to be all meat in design. And that could make them suitable for supplemental feeding only.

Special Alert

Rice ingredients can sometimes contain arsenic. Until the US FDA establishes safe upper levels for arsenic content, pet owners may wish to limit the total amount of rice fed in a dog's daily diet.

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Notes and Updates

12/26/2010 Original review
10/04/2012 Last Update

  1. Tripett website, 12/26/2010
  2. Yamato et al, Heinz Body hemolytic anemia with eccentrocytosis from ingestion of Chinese chive (Allium tuberosum) and garlic (Allium sativum) in a dog, Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association 41:68-73 (2005)
  • Mary Lou

    Opened a can of green bison. Stinkiest yet! Must be the best. ; )

  • Patrick Lamberti

    Huge Help, Thank you

  • InkedMarie

    That she is. I just sent an email to Tracy at Hare, to ask what she suggests. Gemma got stopped up once and I don’t want to repeat that

  • Pattyvaughn

    She is a tough case.

  • InkedMarie

    I was advised to stop the pumpkin and add more bone- less meat, been doing that a week

  • Pattyvaughn

    Are you adding any fiber to her food? My JRT has to have some fiber added or she cries when she poops. Fortunately she hasn’t gotten any worse with more raw. She does very well on Hare Todays whole carcass rabbit. It has the hair still in it and that acts like fiber.

  • InkedMarie

    I have two containers fom Darwin’s. One has two one pound chubs of bone-in duck for ginger & Boone. They have transitioned through boneI-in turkey, chicken and now on duck. beef is next. The other container has one one pound of bone-less beef for Gemma. She has bony Bravo but no bone in her beef. Pooping isn’t coming easily. She did not poop on Monday, gave her boneless with a little olive oil yesterday and she finally went. A little. No poop today. Never had a dog who didn’t go daily. Still getting used to this raw stuff!

  • InkedMarie

    I have chicken, duck, turkey and herring here, so I wouldn’t be out of food

  • InkedMarie

    In case I ran out of the beef mixture with tripe ill have some separate.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    That might be why then. My shipments arrive in 1 – 2 days with ground shipping and are rock solid. It only has to cross one state border for me.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Is yours still frozen solid when you get it? I’m far enough away that mine is partially defrosted, so it’s obvious.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I have a container the perfect size that I just leave in the fridge. It will hold one pound of Hare Today or one pound of Darwin’s equally well. Can you tell how much raw I feed a day?

  • losul

    Marie, is there any particular reason why you want it separate next time?

  • InkedMarie

    I recall people complaining about Darwin’s leaking in their fridge….out it in a container!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’ve been ordering from Hare Today on a regular basis for almost 2 years now and I’ve never had that happen either.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Yeah, when they fill the chub and seal it, sometimes a little bit escapes, or the ring doesn’t close quite as tightly as you would wish. It hasn’t really been a problem, just something I like to be aware of when I’m opening my shipment.

  • InkedMarie

    Wow, I haven’t had tht happen, yet

  • Hound Dog Mom

    If you’re only interested in tripe My Pet Carnivore might be a better bet. As far as overall selection Hare Today is the best, but MPC has a bigger variety of tripe offerings. The Green Tripe Supermix that MPC sells is my dogs’ all time favorite – it’s 50% green tripe, 40% beef muscle meat/bone/organ and 10% trachea and gullet. They usually have buffalo tripe and lamb tripe in addition to their beef tripe, they have “lamb supreme” and occasionally “buffalo supreme” (similar to supermix, but with lamb or bison) and they have a beef tripe/trachea/gullet blend which is great for joint support. All their meats are grass fed as well.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I order their green tripe and also order meat, bones, and organs of seveal different kinds and even whole carcass rabbit and quail for my cats. My only negative with them is that sometimes the outsides of their chubs need to be rinsed off before going in my freezer, everything else is excellent.

  • Patrick Lamberti

    InkedMarie
    I just ordered some of the same, Thanks

  • Pattyvaughn

    I’ve been using Hare Today since October. I’ve been very pleased with my order every time.

  • Patrick Lamberti

    Hound Dog Mom, Thanks so much for the feedback. The company I used to order raw frozen green tripe from, sw
    itched over to dehydrated only. I think dehydration is still a form of cooking, so I appreciate the info on their site. I’ve got a 210 lb English Mastiff, and he loves the raw tripe. Thanks again.

  • InkedMarie

    I got ground beef/organs/bone with tripe. I will order tripe separate next time but now, this is what i got

  • Patrick Lamberti

    Thanks InkedMarie, Did any of the products you purchased contain Green Tripe

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hare Today and My Pet Carnivore are both the best sources of mail order fresh raw food – imo. Although I love both companies and do order from both, I order from Hare Today more often because where I live (Northeast) the shipping rates are better. I’ve probably tried over half the products on their site and have never been disappointed. Their tripe is a mainstay in my household. In fact, I just got a 100 lb. shipment a few days ago and not one item I ordered was more than 3 weeks old. You can’t get fresher than that when it comes to prepackaged frozen.

  • InkedMarie

    I’ve heard nothing but great things about Hare. I’m new to their products, got my first order about a month ago.

  • Patrick Lamberti

    Hound Dog Mom, Thanks for the info. Hare Today has a huge variety, any info on their reputation? Thanks

  • Hound Dog Mom

    There aren’t any significant differences between the ingredients, protein and fat levels in the regular Nature’s Variety Instinct and the Nature’s Variety Instinct Raw Boost – so I’d assume that, once reviewed, the Raw Boost formula will receive the same rating as the regular formula (5 stars).

  • patvl246

    On kibble remarks, Our dogs main diet is raw, but we do add a bit of Natures Variety Instinct Raw Boost Venison and Lamb meal. Any thoughts on this kibble. Thanks

  • Julie

    Our dogs love this stuff! We mix it in with their kibble. You get used to the smell.

  • dirtdogs

    Eves Mom….I dunno. I was born in South East Asia and our family gatherings are still in the authentic parts of Chinatown, I know them smells. If your “harm ha” is “salted shrimp” then I’ve gotta say “harm yee” (salted fish) is much worse! And yeah, I know kimchee well. Tripe’s got that stuff all beat hands down, smells like some cow just pooped in my kitchen! And uh, my finicky old dog just loves that stuff. I got her as pound pull when she was prob 5-6 yrs old, I suspect former dumpster diver, and discovering tripe was a real miracle for me! Before that it would be bits of roast chicken, smoked salmon, tuna, sardines, thai curry, and oftentimes Her Maj would just stalk off with her nose in the air. Oh, and Her Maj likes her tripe slightly warmed up in the microwave…..

  • http://www.thegreedypinstripes.com/ BryanV21

    Sounds about right. LOL

  • http://www.thegreedypinstripes.com/ BryanV21

    I believe the company is called Pet Kind.

  • Nicole

    LOL….my dogs both love it, but holy hell, the stink!!

  • monkey

    Who makes tripett?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Just noticed that Tripett has a new green bison tripe formula and it appears that the venison tripe is now mixed with beef – the website has been updated as well. Petkind (the parent company) also has a new line of canned foods out which can be viewed from the Tripett website: there’s duck, bison tripe, salmon, lamb tripe, pork tripe and elk. The Petkind foods appear to be just for supplemental feeding – they’re just meat, quinoa and acai. New jerky treats too!

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  • Ally

    Loved Tripett’s canned venison for my senior terrier/poodle. It helped her kidney levels tremendously. However, Tripett has begun adding carrageenan to their foods, an emulsifier that turns honey-like in the stomach and can cause ulcers and other allergic reactions

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Oh dogs and their green tripe. I hate that they love it so much. When I fed THK I always mixed in a can of tripett – I used to order it by the case. Now they get raw green tripe 2 or 3 times a week (their favorite meals of the week, my least favorite meals of the week lol).

  • Mike P

    Just ordered a case of the green tripett.I took a couple of months off of using it but Jubilee went wild for it when I used it.The website say’s they use veg gum and not carrageenan.I would hope they keep their site current.I just think it’s a good topper with Brothers…

  • Mary Lou

    Mwasserman ~ the cans I purchased look the same in quality and freshness ~ just not stinky.  : )  However, due to the recent addition of the carrageenan, I only open a can every other week.  I also pick through it, and remove all visible “jelly.”  We have not had any digestive issues. I hope you are able to find out what is causing issues with your guy.

  • Dave’s Hounds

     Evesmom I tried the K9 tripe – my problem with it was that my dogs would poop dry dust after eating it (I mixed it properly and even increased the water). So I stopped using it and went back to the canned

  • Mwasserman

    We have served our French bulldog green beef tripe since for the last four months (he is now 6.5 months old). Everything was fine until a couple of weeks ago when his diarrhea started, and hasn,t stopped. Vet says no parasites in his stools, we’ve added rice, and even half an Immodiium, but the loose stools continue. I noticed this last batch is a “grayish green” as compared to the normal “pinkish tan” it had been.

    Could this Carrageenan gum be relatively new and is diarrhea aossible side effect?

  • Mary Lou

    * lists

  • Mary Lou

    I broke down and ordered Dupree a couple more cans of the Beef, Duck, and Salmon just because he seemed to love it so much.  The new cans have an expiration date of April 2015.  It leasts carrageenan gum on it ~ my last order did not.  The strange thing about it, is that it doesn’t even smell bad.  Just a little off smell.  Makes me wonder if this product has been changed. 

  • EvesHumanMom

    I don’t know what happened to my post from this morning, but just to say thanks for the info on Tripett.  I am using a little as a topper for my dog, and have given cans to our friends.  Eve always has an appetite, but is especially enthusiastic when I add the Tripett or Nutripe (similar product from NZ)  Two of our little friends, one, an almost year old Shiba and an eleven year old mutt have lost their appetites in the summer heat, but I gave each owner a can to try mixing in and now the dogs are eating again!

    I do have a question, though:  once we get through the box of cans I bought, I am thinking of using that freeze-dried K-9 tripe,  (With only one little dog, I cut up the loaf in the can like little hockey pucks and freeze them,) because I can make small amounts when needed.  However, the English site says NOT to mix with kibble.  Is this important to follow?  The canned tripe seems to be working with the kibble just fine.  What is the difference, I wonder?

  • EvesHumanMom

    Dogs and people in Japan sometimes suffer from “natsu-bate,” roughly translated as summer malaise, part of which includes lack of appetite, or so they say.  Neither I nor my dog seem to have that problem, but have started to add Tripett or a similar product, Nutripe from NZ, which she loves.  We have two doggy friends, a Shiba pup, nearly one year old, and an 11year old mix who have lost their appetites due to the heat, but eat  well now that we gave them each a can to try.  So glad we found out about this.  Actually, am considering trying the dehydrated K9 tripe once we get through the dozen cans I got.  Less worry about  carageenan and BPA and can make small amounts as needed for one 8kilo dog who gets 2T added to each meal.  And fewer grey hockey pucks in the freezer that I have to explain about each time DH is rooting around for ice cream. 

  • Hound Dog Mom

     Thanks Sandy, I’ll check them out.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I’ve seen 2 other green powders I like:

    one is the OnlyNaturalPet.com Super Daily Greens and one is GreenPower Blend from

    http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/product/1-green-power-blend-organic.html?&cat=577&bestseller=Y

    They also have slippery elm, milk thistle, detox blends, bee pollen, essential oils, etc…

  • Mike P

    website still list veg gum in the ingredients

  • Johnandchristo

    Bcpaws4me……….

    How about BPAs  I also stopped feeding this . All though other wise an excellent food. 

  • Bcpaws4me

    Tripett is now using carrageenan gum This was a shock to me so I thought I would share this since carrageenan gum has many negative aspects to it. Im re-thinking whether or not I will buy any more based on the change grom vegetable gum

  • InkedMarie

    thank you, Shawna and HDM!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Good to know. I’m currently using Earth Greens from Carnivora which has 8 strains of probiotics, but it contains lecithin after what Toxed had to say about lecithin I’m going to discontinue this product after I finish the jar I currently have. I think I’m just going to make my own supplement next so I have everything I want and nothing I don’t. I was looking for a good probiotic supplement to add in so I’ll check out the Mercola one, it sounds great.

  • Shawna

    Hmmmm?  I was looking at an ingredient list that is not the same as the one on the website.  Here’s what I was looking at  http://livesuperfoods.com/wholistic-pet-organics-canine-digest-all-plus-for-dogs.html

    Since this ingredeint list is directly from the company it is likely correct :) ..  http://www.thewholisticpet.com/products/canine-product-line/digestive-support/wholistic-digest-all-plustm.html

    It does have two strains of bacteria (only two though).  :(

    If you click on the names of the enzymes — amylase, cellulase etc — you will see that they are derived from the fungi I mentioned in the previous post.

    I still think this product is okay for enzymes but I wouldn’t use it for probiotics.  Having just the two can, from my understanding, create an imbalance in the other 12 known to be in the dogs digestive tract. 

  • Shawna

    I use both probiotics and digestive enzymes with my raw fed crew..  I personally think they are both important however many disagree with me ;)

    Probiotics don’t need to be given daily but I do like having them on hand.  Gut bacteria can be killed by chlorinated and fluoridated water, antibiotics, NSAIDs etc.  Always good to have them on hand if you “need” to reseed the gut bacteria/yeast population. 

    There are beneficial yeast just like there are beneficial bacteria.  In fact, Standard Process puts out a yeast probiotic (for humans) that can be taken when on antibiotics to prevent candida yeast from taking over.. :)

  • Shawna

    Sorry for confusing the issue…  I use the word yeast interchangably with fungi.  However, not all fungi are yeast..

    When bacteria and yeast (and fungi) feed they create enzymes.  The enzymes used in this product (and many others) are a “product” of that feeding. 

    Aspergillus oryzae, Trichoderma reesei and Aspergillus niger are fungi.  All yeast is fungi but not all fungi are yeast so these may technically not be yeast?  They are still fungi and can be just as problematic for sensitive individuals.  The enzymes can have debris (for lack of a better word) from the yeast/fungi/bacteria and if a dog is already sensitive it can trigger a reaction.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’ve used this supplement in the past. The Digest All is enzymes only. The Digest All Plus is enzymes and probiotics. Not sure how many strains it contains of probiotics though.

  • InkedMarie

    I;m confused on the yeast you said it has….I’m looking at my bottle and it says free of yeast. Where do you see yeast listed? 
    I will check out the Mercola one. Is a probiotic and/or digestive enzyme recommended?

  • Shawna

    Yeah, looks okay..  Some dogs may have an issue with the bacteria/yeast used to make the enzymes but you should notice if that happens/starts.  I didn’t know what Dried Ananas como was so had to look that up — pineapple flower..  :)   Pineapple is a source of the enzyme bromelain which digests protein..  Because you are feeding a good raw diet, like Darwins, you can decrease the recommended dose of the enzyems if you want.  The food will already have live enzymes so you are just “boosting” what is already supplied rather then replacing like you would with a canned or kibble diet.

    No probiotics in the Digest All.  I like the Mercola Healthy Pets probiotic.  There are 14 known probiotics in the dogs digestive tract and the Mercola product is the only one I have found that includes all 14.  There may be others, I just haven’t seen them.. :)

  • InkedMarie

    oh good, so green tripe is what I want. Shawna, I asked a question in some thread about probiotics and digestive enzymes. I don’t know what are best. I am feeding Darwins, someone elsewhere suggested I use them so I got The Wholistic Pets Digest All Plus. Is that a good product?

  • Shawna

    “Green” tripe has not been chemically treated and bleached.  “White” tripe, which is found in the grocery stores for human consumption, has been bleached etc and is no longer healthful.

  • LabsRawesome

     The white tripe that you find in the grocery
    store has been cleaned, scalded and bleached. It has almost no
    nutritional value for the dog. 

    Green tripe does not necessarily refer to it’s color. In this
    instance it refers to the fact that it has not been touched – not
    cleaned, not bleached and not scalded. It’s actual color is brown,
    however, sometimes there will be a greenish tint due to the grass or hay
    the animal ate just before slaughtering.

  • InkedMarie

    All this talk about tripe had me looking. We’re feeding Darwins, they sell tripe, called “green tripe”. Anyone know what the difference is between that and any other tripe?

  • Shawna

    Morning Eve’sHumanMom ~~ Hawaii —– NICE :)

    I ferment foods for myself and the dogs..  I’ve made kombucha as well as kimchee like veggie blends..  I will take that ANY DAY over the smell of raw tripe….  BLAH  ;)

  • Shawna

    LOL!!  I’ll come there now for pool side drinks and relaxation.  You come here next winter for fire side toddys and skiing :)

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    You poor mainlanders : – )  I grew up Hawaii:  Koreans have kimchee; Japanese, takuan;  Filipinos, bagoong; Chinese, harm ha; and more recently, south east asians, shrimp paste.  Lots of really really stinky foods– you wouldn’t open a container on the bus, so I guess I am inured to strongly odiferous foods.  Tripett:  ha!  Just ordered a 12 of Nutripe, NZ’s version.  Thanks all for recommending tripe.  We’d never have thought of it, normally.  Japanese believe in “natsu-bate,”  where people (and pets) get weak in the summer heat because they don’t maintain adequate nutrition due to lack of appetite in the heat and humidity.  Actually, Eve, who came to us as a half-starved rescue, has never had a problem with appetite, but improving her diet won’t hurt, especially in the long run.   And we can share some with her friends who do.

  • Mary Lou

    Hey Shawna ~ no issues.  He is doing great!!  I was chatting with hubby about dog food due to the smelly Tripett.  He mentioned how much Dupree seems to love it, and asked why I even feed kibble at all. 
     
    So….there you go!  Rest of the Nutrisca went out in the trash today.  It was probably well over a month old anyway.  Even though rolled and wrapped tightly, and put in a ziploc bag, I’m sure it was getting old.  He just doesn’t eat enough of it.
     
    Come shake some sense into me if I mention buying any kibble again!!  I MAY mention it just so you’ll come visit!!  ; )

  • LA

    I give my dogs the Tripett – I just open it real fast and  dish it out and wrap what is left in the can in foil and put  a lid on it – so the smell will not get out – you think I was wrapping up a bomb.  My dogs love it. 

  • Shawna

    Hi Mary Lou :)

    Did he react again??  I’m having huge email issues and haven’t had a chance to read the email replies you recently sent…  I may have to scrap Yahoo and try yet another provider :(

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    So I finally got the courage up and opened our first can.  No where near as bad as I anticipated.  Of course, it was frozen and that might have made a little difference. (Only one small dog here.)  I sliced it into hockey pucks, wrapped and refroze all but the slice that’ll last us through tomorrow.  Enough for one topping serving was defrosted, so I scraped it off and mixed into her warm-water soaked kibble, but it still didn’t smell horrible.  She is a little rescue and will eat anything put in front of her extremely enthusiastically, (no free feeding here:  she would explode,)  so I was not surprised when she attacked her bowl with her usual fervor.  However, I did notice that she went for the tripett first as much as possible, although her mixture is soupy and it was mixed in.  She normally eats the kibble first, then licks up the liquid.  Then she went into the kitchen and licked the floor where one of the hockey pucks flew off the cutting board (took a little effort to saw through the frozen cylindrical shape,) although I wiped it up.  I have to wash her face now, though, as she smells like Tripett.  Doesn’t make me gag, but it is much stinkier than doggy breath.

  • Mary Lou

    Just want to say ~ I bravely opened another can of Tripett, but I was smart ~ held my breath, and worked quickly.  I mixed it in with his Stella & Chewy’s.  Yummy!! 

    Shawna ~ if you are on here ~ disregard kibble question.  Hubby and I have decided to ban all kibble ~ again ~ and for good!!

  • Johnandchristo

    HDM…..

    It (BHTs), was developed in the 1940s approved in the 1950, and around the 1970s it started to get scrutinized and they came out with BHAs I think these are added to help keep fats from going bad. I think they put this junk in are foods because its cheaper than using natural antioxidants. why else? Potato chips still use BHTs(they are high in fat).

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Yeah, just looked up BHT and it looks just as bad.

    BHT:
    “high hazard” and says it has
    been shown to be linked to cancer, developmental toxicity, allergies,
    neurotoxicity, endocrine disruption, biochemical or cellular level
    changes.

    why do they have to sneak this stuff into our food…

  • Johnandchristo

    HDM…..

    Heres a little info on BPAs

  • Johnandchristo
  • Hound Dog Mom

    Correction: I was confused not BPA in cereal – BHT. Too many three later B words. I’m assuming BHT is another bad ingredient and it’s in all the good (tasting) cereal. Luckily I don’t eat canned food and neither do my dogs so I guess I’ve just got to look out for BHT.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Andrea……

    Thank you that is good too know. a study I read on BPAs really made me worry, not only about the dog but about my family as well.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi HDM…….

    I saw a petition (and signed it) to make progresso soup stop using BPA lined cans. that when I thought oh my God I bet its in the dog food cans too. But till I know for sure I’ll hold back a little. BTW, campell’s soup stopped after a petition a couple of years ago.

  • Andrea

    There is BPA in almost all can foods.Merrick is the only one I could find who uses a natural lining on the side of the cans; there is some BPA in the upper lining, but it doesn’t really get into contact with the food. So basically Merrick cans are considered BPA free. When you read under ‘verus dog food’ or ‘Great life’ you find that these and other companies have claimed to have BPA-free cans,but their statements were incorrect. Also often times they use an enamel lining, which is additionally toxic.The only cans now I use is Merrick.They also have ‘the working man’ with Tripe. Their ingredients are human grade basically as well. 

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’m going to guess that because they don’t advertise BPA free on their website that the cans contain BPA…unfortunately. Check out mypetcarnivore.com and hare-today.com, that’s where I order my tripe. BPA is getting hard to avoid, I just recently started looking for it after all the talk about it on here. I went grocery shopping this morning and man trying to find cereal without BPA did not leave me with many choices..

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi LA…..

    I just now saw this picture. awesome dog.

  • Johnandchristo

    Does anybody know if there is BPA’s in the cans of this food? 
    I think that there is. I’m not 100% sure. can any one help with that? My dog loves it but I wont risk him getting BPA’s
    Moratorium time for Tripett.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    In my opinion the salmon and beef tripe is the least offensive. It smells more like a very strong, very fishy canned cat food opposed to the other three that smell like liquid manure.

  • LA

    Hey Hound Dog – tried the Lamb Tripett today – When I opened it there was no smell until I started to scoop it out into their dishes – Holy Cow – thank God I did not have breakfast yet cause I would have toss those cookies right up ! LOL – They loved it!!!!  

  • LA

    good for you – if the USA goes bankrupt you can run over the border!  LOL – I go on several business trips a year to Syracuse – one was during the winter and a snow storm. I don’t mind the snow and in fact the bulldogs love it – my husband would dig a trial in the snow in the back yard and you can see them running through it – but there is always one that jumps out of trail and to the deep snow.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’m wayy upstate…only about a 10 minute drive from the Canadian border.

  • LA

    Thanks Hound Dog: Just went to the linke – you have the BEST Sites to go to! Thanks again.   Are you upstate or downstate??  I am on LI. 

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Yes! Hold your nose and get a gas mask! Also, because I know you recently switched to raw, if you decide you have the stomach for it and can’t get raw tripe in your area check out hare-today.com. They sell frozen raw tripe and have the most reasonable shipping rates I’ve been able to find for frozen food – I’m in New York and it’s about $1 per pound. Their tripe runs $2.19 per pound.

  • LA

    yippeee got my case of green lamb Tripe Tripett today – can not wait to use it – should I hold my nose???  Hound Dog I used Doggie Food.com and you were right – cheaper then other sites and got it in three days – shipping only $4.95.  Attached is a pic of the mommie after nursing 5 bulldog pups – she took up the bottle!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hey LA,

    The brand of probiotic I have used is Wholistic Pet Digest All Plus (http://wholisticpet.com), it contains both probiotics and digestive enzymes and is human-grade. Also, I know Shawna and Toxed recommend the Mercola brand a lot (http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/products.aspx) so I’m sure that’s another great choice.

    And that’s neat about the bloodhound booth! :)

  • LA

    To Hound Dog Mom – Thank-you so much – I will check it out.  I know you mentioned a real good probiotic somewhere on this site – can you give me the name again.  My vet is recommending Vetri Probiotic Everyday to give my dogs.  I have to tell you I do the AKC Meet The Breeds in Manhattan every year – I handle the Bulldog Booth and last year the Bloodhound Booth was next to me and I could not believe how big they are and just absoutely beautiful.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hey LA,

    doggiefood.com has the cheapest prices and free shipping. When I fed Tripett I ordered it from here.

  • LA

    Can anyone recommend a on-line site for ordering the Tripett?

  • LA

    Hello where do you get the raw tripe from?  Also with the Tripett – can you add it kibble and is it used everyday or maybe once or twice a week?

  • Toxed2loss

    Yay!!

  • Mary Lou

    The Tripett actually went well. No scratching or chewing, no upset tummy, good stool, and he didn’t get kicked out of bed for stinky breath! : )

  • hounddogmom12

    I realize I’m in in the minority but I think Tripett actually smells worse than raw tripe!

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I think the original beef tripe one (that’s green) smells the most like tripe.  Tho others flavors just smell like canned dog food (to me).

  • Mary Lou

    Eve’sHumanMom ~ just do it!!   It may not bother you at all!!  So many people on here think it is great.  You may have a much stronger stomach than I.  Go for it!!  : )

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    Mary Lou and Sandy, you are scaring me.  I bought a can but haven’t opened it yet.  Maybe if I freeze it before opening? (Have to freeze some of the leftovers anyway as she is not big and an only fur-child.)

  • Mary Lou

    Sandy ~ honestly ~ I think I would pass out if I fed raw!!!  It smelled to me like changing a babies diaper only much, much, much worse!!  I couldn’t believe I was feeding it to this sweet little guy.  hee hee 
     
    I keep sniffing the air wondering if it is making the house stink.  Told hubby that I’m afraid to smell Dupree’s breath!!  LOL!!

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    LOL!!  If you think the cans stink, don’t get raw tripe for sure!  It’s the canned smell times 100 with essence of old sneakers, athletes foot and sewage waste.  And the dogs LOVE it.  At least they don’t roll around in it, thank goodness!

  • Mary Lou

    After hearing all the raves about Tripett, thought I would give it a try for Dupree.  I bought the beef, duck and salmon.  He had some with dinner.  I truly thought I was going to be sick.  I managed to get the leftovers into a covered glass container.  I am dreading opening it.  : )  He ate it with gusto, but he eats everything as though he has never eaten before.  Time will tell if it agrees with him.  I bought a few small cans.  I do not think there will be a reorder in this household!!  : )

  • Toxed2loss

    Lol, I completely understand!

  • hounddogmom12

     Ugh…I’ll stick with my raw tripe.

  • Toxed2loss

    Vegetable gum can be any one of a number of gums, all of which contain free glutamic & aspartic acids. A couple of others might be guar gum, or Arabic gum, Cassia or propylene glycol alginate. All are on the GRAS list. That last one, shudder, wouldn’t touch if you paid me a million $$.

  • hounddogmom12

    Oh so vegetable gum is code for carageenan? :(

  • LabsRawesome

     vegetable bum? lol

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    sorry.  Gum not Bum. :-p

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    I wonder if Debbie is from Canada.  According to the description here, http://www.petacular.com/tripett-green-tripe-597-prd1.htmlthe “vegetable bum” is described as “Binding agent consisting of kappa carrageenan gum” and a commentor on TruthAboutPetFood http://www.truthaboutpetfood.com/articles/what%E2%80%99s-this-ingredient-in-my-pet%E2%80%99s-food–carrageenan.html  notes the discrepancy between the website description and labels in Canada.
    Don’t know what to think.

  • monkey

    I would like to point out that Nutripe’s “stabalizer” is carrageenan.

  • hounddogmom12

    I just looked up Nutripe. Does it say somewhere that it’s for supplemental feeding only? Because it appears to me (that with all those vitamins and minerals) it should be balanced. Looks like a good product (I like the green lipped mussel) except for the carageenan. Contrary to the previous post by Debbie Tripett has not changed their recipe, it still contains vegetable gum and not carageenan (according to their website).

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    Sorry.  Ingredients for Nutripe NOT the same:  was looking at a site that confused the two.  Apparently Nutripe is made in New Zealand and the ingredients for the basic flavor is:  Ingredients: Tripe, Stabilizer, Vitamins & Minerals, Green-Lipped Mussel Powder, Sufficient Water for Processing
    Typical Analysis Crude Protein (min) 7.5%
    Crude Fat (min) 8.1%
    Crude Fiber (max) 0.2%
    Crude Ash (max) 1.3%
    Feeding instructions Introduce NUTRIPE to your dog’s diet gradually to prevent any disruption of its digestive pattern.NUTRIPE can be fed as a supplement to your dog’s favourite raw or dry food. The suggested serving can range from 1/4 tripe to 3/4 commercial food or as high as 3/4 tripe to 1/4 commercial food.the stabilizer is carageenan.

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    It seems to have exactly the same ingredients, including tripe from New Zealand.  To be used in conjunction with their regular diet.

  • hounddogmom12

    I’ve never heard of Nutripe, but Tripett is just canned green tripe (not a complete food, just a topper).

  • Eve’sHumanMom

    Is this like Nutripe?  Do you have Nutripe in the US?

  • Debbie

    Hey Mike, I think you should change your ingredient listing for this product, the can I purchased today no longer has the good ingredient vegetable gum,  it has now been changed to the risky ingredient carageenan, not as good as it was, I was sad and don’t know why this company had to change and go this route.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    No, theres worse smelling stuff – raw tripe.  http://www.greentripe.com.  It’s like Tripett x 100 but they love it!

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Kim…….

    It was not concocted by man , mother nature
    made it lol. my dog likes it to. I think more nasty it smells the better they like it ;)

  • Kim

    This has to be the most godawful smelling stuff ever concocted by man. But Lyla, my 2 1/2-year-old bichon/poodle who is normally quite finicky just DEVOURS this stuff so I put up with the odor 
    as best I can while spooning it out.  Since it’s sometimes hit and miss finding something raw she likes (She likes veal and pork but turns her nose up at lamb and duck meat.),I usually throw in a scoop of the Nature’s Variety Instinct Raw Daily Boost plus a teaspoon of either Barlean’s or Carlson fish oil and its usually gone in 90 seconds.

  • Pugsonraw

    This wasn’t as bad as I imagined. The boys caught a whiff of the smell and got really excited over dinner. I had spotless bowls – must be tasty! This is a keeper in the rotation.

  • Toxed2loss

    Pugs, John & Mikey,

    LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!! Perfect way to start the morning! :-D

  • Pugsonraw

    Mike,
     
    My pugs fight over smelly socks… so this tripe should be an absolute hit with “the two boys”.

    In regards to toxed….. I’ve made a mental note to lather, rinse, repeat!

    You guys are hysterical!

  • Alexandra

    My 2¢,

    Raw is way worse!! Like test your gag refex bad! But my dogs are so well behaved when they see it as I prepare their meals!!

  • Johnandchristo

    I just read all the posts.

    cant decide the funniest one, it a tie between mike’s socks
    and toxed ‘s advice to” shower after feeding” funny stuff guys.

  • Mike P

    Hey Pugs the Tripett doesn’t smell that bad.My dog loves it.I have socks that smell worse but she carries them around the house as well..Hmmm

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    The canned tripe smell is hardly anything compared to the raw!

  • Toxed2loss

    Feed it before your shower? :-)

  • Pugsonraw

    I picked up a few cans of the beef tripe to use as a topper on my pugs food. Going to try it out tomorrow for the first time. I’ve heard this is stinky stuff, anything else I should know?

  • BostonSprite

    I clicked on the Online Retailer and PetFlow doesn’t have a listing for Tripett.  I can find it elsewhere, just thought you might like to know.
     

  • GSDGal ;)

    Maybe I’ll just give it a try and see what happens.

  • GSDGal ;)

    Bravo Toxed! That’s the spirit!!

  • Toxed2loss

    Thanks GSDGirl;)!

    I am feeling better! Yay! …one foot in front of the other, keep on, keeping on!

  • GSDGal ;)

    Can anyone tell me anything about the skin and coat Tripett? I was interested in using it as a topper. I can get it quite reasonably online.

  • GSDGal ;)

    Get well soon Toxed! You’re a trooper! Sending you a get well hug!

  • Toxed2loss

    “Hug” to you Marie! Thank you. I’m sorry you’re having Internet issues. That is soooooo frustrating!:-p

  • Marie

    I hope you’ll feel better soon. Sorry I haven’t been on much, having internet issues. :(

  • Toxed2loss

    Hey Sandy, Mike P, Dr. Mike, Alexanda, JohnandChristo, Mary Lou, Jan_Mom2Cavs, & Shawna…

    I <3 you, all!!!!! Thank you. You all are so sweet, it made me cry. :-}

  • Mike P

    Shawna I got a new thistle that says nothing added and 80% silymarin. 175mg

  • Shawna

    Him Monkey ~~ Yes, Jarrow is a good one..  They don’t actually say silymarin but it is implied and I believe Jarrow to be a reputable company…

  • Shawna

    Morning Miki P :)   You are very very sweet :)

    Yes, I have talked to Toxed and she is not feeling well at all but I see she popped in to tell you herself :)   She’s a trooper!!  I admire her a great deal!!

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I hate to hear this and hope you feel better real soon! 

  • Mary Lou

    Toxed ~ missing your wisdom and wit!  Take good care of yourself and hurry back.  : )

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Toxed…..

    I hope you feel better, get well.

  • Alexandra

    Get better Toxed.

    Miss you!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hey Toxed,

    Hope you get better very soon. We’ve been missing you.

  • Mike P

    Miss you Toxi…Thanks for your help as always…Feel better soon

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Aww, sorry to hear that.  Hope you feel better soon.

  • Toxed2loss

    Hi Mike P,
    Just checking in, to see how all my friends are doing on DFA.
    :-) Still TOMA, and expect to be for another week. Then looking forward to gaining ground. ;-) thanks for asking!

  • monkey

    I have the Jarrow brand Milk Thistle. That one should be good right Shawna??

    Thanks 

  • Mike P

    Thank you Shawna.I sure wish we were neighbors lol. I guess I go to the store to get a better milk thistle.I’ll take the junky ones so they don’t go to waste.How’s Toxi doing?Have you been in touch?? 

  • Shawna

    Mike P ~~ I wouldn’t worry about overdosing on this product….  I wouldn’t use it either.  It also contains soybean oil, soy lecithin, caramel color and color (whatever that might be). 

    Also, it appears as though they have used the whole plant (instead of the active ingredient — silymarin (a combination of three extracts from the plant).

    Example — look at Nature’s Way Milk Thistle — Milk Thistle Dried Extract (seed) standardized to 80% silymarin  http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Way-Milk-Thistle-Standardized-120-Vegetarian-Capsules

    The brand you are using is not standardized.  This is what a WalMart “Expert” says about the product.  “This milk thistle product does not standardize silymarin; however, it may naturally occur in the plant material. Since this is not a standardized product, silymarin is not listed on the label and therefore, we do not guarantee its amount.”  http://answers.walmart.com/answers/1336/product/11997240/questions.htm

    There could be very little actually in the product since it comes from only certain parts of the plant.  Hard to know for sure?

    The standardized products are all going to be a lower dosage and will say silymarin on the ingredient list.

  • Shawna

    Thanks for the input LMD!!  GREAT info!!

    Also, I agree with you on the Milk Thistle dosage.  Smaller amounts used for a week.. 

  • melissa

    Mike P-

    Yes, you can -google LD50 for milk thistle(lethal dose) and you can red the reports/studies.

  • Mike P

    Can you overdose on milk thistle? I haven’t found that anywhere. It’s Spring Valley brand so you know it’s got to be weak. 

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Here’s what’s from Dr Becker’s book- milk thistle capsules 100-125 mg: small dog and cats 1/2 capsule daily for a week after heartworm med, medium dog 1 capsule daily, large/giant dog 1 capsule twice daily.

  • Mike P

    LMD thanks so much for the info.I gave her a dose of revolution today and then gave her a 1000cap of milk thistle mixed in her tablespoon of greek yogurt.She is about 70 lbs.

  • LMD

    Also, In regards to Mike P, I didn’t notice anyone answered you, but sorry if I’m steping on any toes, 1000mg of Milk Thistle sounds high to me. I only give my dogs 200mg caps. You may have bigger dogs than I do but I’m still thinking that 500mg would be the limit. For those with a Costco membership, they have a 300 count bottle online only, for $12.99 that I purchase for heartworm med detox, and I find it to be free from most extraneous additives.

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks Melissa ~ I do believe that is exactly what I am going to do.  Makes sense to me.  Why keep giving him something that’s labeled for up to 25 lbs?  Thanks for the great discussion, but for now I’m out of here.  Have a great night!  : )

  • melissa

    LMD-

    I am with you. I never use the ivermectin for heartworm(liquid) While I would feel okay wth the pre measured tablets, I would not risk the oral liquid for heartworm prevention. Most places on the internet say 1/10cc per 10lbs of body weight-however, that is for ease of measuring and is actually much higher than what is needed. Since it can cross the blood/brain barrier and cause issues, I simply don’t think the cost outweighs the risks(very cheap to do)

  • LMD

    I’m glad to Mary Lou. I have read that most border collies are not affected by that gene deletion, but I always air on the side of caution. I did have one of them tested by a lab, because she was taking Loperamide (Immodium) and it is one of the meds along with ivermectin that will cross the blood-brain barrier, but she was not affected. The test was quite expensive though. It’s much cheaper to avoid the suspects :)

  • melissa

    Mary Lou-

    If not sure, I would just use up the ones you have and then if you wish to do the safeheart dose (after reading the link Sandy provided) buy the smaller size.

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks LMD!!  So glad that this issue is being discussed.  I did read that today about collies ~ I don’t think you are being over cautious at all.

  • LMD

    I work in pharmacy and most medications can be split. Capsules cannot, and extended release tablets cannot be split. That’s about it (with a few exceptions). I use interceptor on my dogs and have been splitting the tablets with a pill splitter for a while. I’m not suggesting people do it against the manugacturers suggestion, but I feel comfortable with it. I know people that inject ivermectin monthly calclulated on the dogs weight, but I just use the tabs. I’m probably over cautious, but I don’t use ivermectin products on my dogs as I have all border collies. I know the “white footed” gene deletion is rare, but don’t want to risk it.

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks Melissa and Shawna ~ one more thing to really be thinking about. I really didn’t know they paid for heartworm treatment; so that won’t be an issue in going to a lower dose. 

    Who would have thought owning a cute little dog would become so involved?  This is only our second dog.  The first one (the little cocker) was when we got married, I believe he ate Purina, got flea dips at the groomers, etc.  Ugh!!  : )

    I think I may be dissecting a Heartgard.  It will be 45 days on the 1st; so hopefully I can mathematically figure out how much to cut off by then.  ; )  Then, I do think I will switch to Interceptor for the tabs.

  • melissa

     Shawna-

    I have no idea what the reps say : ) Mary Straus was the first online resource that I found that is actually(imo) reputable and who states outright that she questioned them, and was given a definitive answer. The person who discussed the chews on the other hand is a random stranger, lol. I just looked at both the interceptor cite(norvartis) and the Heartgard Plus site(merial) and looked at the package inserts. What I find interesting is that I could NOT find any type of warning stressing that under no circumstances should pills be cut. If the medication would be ineffective if the owner cut it, I would(in my little world, lol) expect to see a warning to this. If someone else finds something on either site, please point it out.

  • Shawna

    Once again — Interesting!!

    The reps must be telling vets something different!!!???

    Thanks for the info!

  • melissa

     Shawna-

    I have not used the treat style in years-those are typically Heargard(Interceptor is “flavor tabs”-unscored tablets. I did however a few years back find something written by a woman whose friend worked in a plant where the chewy style ones were made. She indicated that the same held true-the ingredients are completely mixed together and then the “dough” goes through extrusion, with the doses being “cut” by size/volume of the mix.  Not sure how the size doses vary as I have not looked at the size of the pieces in years. I would hazard a guess that if the pieces for each weight category are different, then she is correct. She did state that the medication was NOT injected into each piece separately and that makes sense simply from a time/quality perspective to me.

    Mary Lou-

    Yes, I heard the same thing-they will not cover heartworm treatment if you are using the product “off label”. However, when I sit and think of that guarantee that is made-give the preventative and if the dog comes up positive they pay-I have to wonder what type of caveats are associated with it. For example, I could easily BUY the meds but forget to give them-Will they pay simply because I bought them, or will I have to somehow prove that I gave it, and prove that  it was exactly 30 days apart? FYI-Bob is correct-you should not save cut halfs from month to month since there is no way to “repackage” it properly. For the record, I also split large doses of Frontline, lol

  • Shawna

    Here’s a picture of the Heartgard “treat” style “chewable” preventative.
    http://www.heartgardfordogs.net/tag/heartgard/

  • Mary Lou

    Very interesting indeed ~ I missed a lot.  I was thinking the same thing that Bob mentioned about opening the blister pack; especially with the Heartgard.  I definitely would not save it.  I asked the vet’s office about the difference, and which product they sell the most.  They carry both, but they said right now there is a shortage of the Interceptor due to improving the plant where it is manufactured.  Also, was told that we have whipworms here; so don’t know why he was put on Heartgard as a puppy.  Back then, I never thought to ask.  Not anymore!

    I asked about using the lower weight.  They said if I chose to do that, if he did get heartworms, the manufacturers would not pay for the treatment.  I actually have 4 Heartgard; so may just use them up. 

    Melissa ~ I, too, would be interested in your thoughts on splitting the “treat”.  Thanks everyone!   : )

  • Shawna

    Interesting Melissa!! 

    With my foster dogs I always used the “beef flavored” square treat looking heartworm products…  I must admit that I assumed most heartworm products were this same style product. 

    I do completely see your point AND agree that if in a capsule or tablet form there would be no reason not to split…. 

    What are your thoughts on the treat style products?

  • Bob K

    Melissa – I am with you on this.  Most pills are formulated blended products shaped to a specific size.  Some pills are vacuum sealed, coated or placed in capsules.  Cut a pill in half and the potency or drug on each side should be equal.  Other issues to consider are – Storage of a medication that is opened or cut in half.  Most of the Frontliine, Interceptors, Heartguard come is vacuum sealed packaging protected from humidity, sun, oxygen etc…. that help ensure the product shelf life and effectiveness that may effect the pill over time and varied conditions.  I would avoid saving and using a cut Heartguard pill that could be open for a month, but if I had 2 dogs that weighed about the same and they could split one pill, I would cut a large pill in half to save money.   

    The drug companies like to spread the horrors of cutting pills since it lets them sell more pills rather allow consumers cut a pill in half.  Example:  A 500mg aspirin is not double the cost of 250mg Aspirin.    Some medications come scored to enable easy breaking. 

  • melissa

    Shawna-

    I knew I read this somewhere, but took me a few minutes to find it again-Mary Straus’s 2006 article in the WDJ re-splitting meds. If you scroll down to the “splitting tablets” section, she states that she spoke with the manufacturers of both Heartgard and Interceptor, and both stated that since the medications are mixed in  prior to formation, then the medication should in fact be evenly distributed-but of course will not guarantee it. The issue seems to come in with owners not properly splitting the tablets rather than the even distribution of the medication in the tablet.  I can understand them not wanting to guarentee what owners do at home, but I can not help wondering if the huge cost savings does not play in..

     http://www.dogaware.com/articles/wdjheartwormprevention.html#splitting

  • melissa

    Shawna-

    I too have always read or been told upon inquiry that the tablets should not be cut(or the chews) However, if one reads the wikipedia entry for how pharmacy tablets are made, it seems insane that these tablets could not be  cut.  If they follow the same processing as human tablets, the fillers(binders) medication etc are mixed together completely prior to processing-and then the correct amount of the granulation mix is put into the die, and the top and bottom slam together forming the pills by compression. In other words, the tablet dose is determined by the weight/volume of the mix. It would seem to me(and hey, I could be way off base) that for the medication to be “on one side only” that the active ingredient would have to be added at a seperate singular stage. However, since that could result in different particle sizes an tablets not binding, I am not sure I believe that. As well, the tablets are different sizes, which in my mind indicates that the dose is based on the weight/volume of the overall mix. If we stop and think about it, why would Interceptor be one of the few tablets that can not be cut? Many medications that are not scored are cut to achieve the proper dose-Clavamox, Simplecef,doxycycline, tramadol, metronidizole, etc etc. But, as always, this is just my opinion, and owners should do what they are comfortable with or what their vet recommends : )

  • Shawna

    I easily found her comment about cutting so am posting :)  —  I know you respect Dr. Beckers opinion :)

    “It’s true, the medication can sometimes be found all in one side of the chew, so don’t split up the dose. You can always have a compounding pharmacy make the exact dose needed for your pet’s body weight (the pills are all dosed to protect the highest weight in it’s range, so for example the ‘up to 10 lbs’ dose is the mg. needed to protect a 10 lb dog, and any pet weighing less is getting a little more than is needed for protection).
    –Dr. Karen Becker”  http://healthypets.mercola.com/groups/healthypets/forum/t/119271.aspx

  • Shawna

    Mary Lou ~~ I know Dr. Becker has recommended to not cut the tabs before..  She feels the same as you that the medication may not be distributed evenly.  Instead she recommends having the drugs componded by a pharmacy for the exact size of the dog receiving the product..

    “Providing your dog is healthy with good kidney and liver function, go with a chemical preventive at the lowest effective dosage (compounded if necessary for dogs that weigh at the low end of dosing instructions), at six (not four) week intervals”  http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2010/08/03/why-havent-pet-owners-been-told-these-facts-about-heartworm.aspx

    I’ve seen several places recommending not to cut however it may be based on assumed risk versus actual…

  • Mary Lou

    Melissa ~ you are a wealth of knowledge!  I will try to call Heartgard this afternoon and ask about splitting the chew since it is for up to 25 lbs.  If not, I would consider the low dose Interceptor, but move back to every 30 days.  Just a thought.  Must run, but I will get back to it later today.  Thank you!!  : )

  • melissa

     Mary lou-

    They do not sell the safeheart here in the US, but you could just get the smaller size to use. Some people cut the tablets. As you questioned, the issue is “how do you know you are getting the right dose if you cut the tablet or chew?” If you call the company(I have, lol) they will tell you the tablets are not scored for cutting, therefore, should not be cut. There are many medications that are used, that are cut, that are not scored for cutting. Before cutting tablets, do some research on how they are made, and then decide if you feel the medication is equally distributed. I have cut them many times in the past with the larger dogs(20lbs and over) and have never had a problem or a dog come up positive-I use interceptor flavor tabs. I do alternate with the “regular dose” for the deworming

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks Sandy ~ I will look over it later today.  I am just wondering about switching to a different “poison”.  He has always been on Heartgard.  I will have to read up on the difference between the two.  Anyone have any feelings either way between Heartgard and Interceptor?

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks Sharon ~ I would love to use all natural preventatives, but, in good conscience, I just can’t.  We live in Tampa (known as the flea capital) and he has flea allergies.  In regard to mosquitoes, we live in a flood zone.  All it takes is a good afternoon storm to bring them rallying.  My “big step” was moving to 45 days on the heartworm meds.  : )

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Here’s the link to an article about mosquitos and heartworm incase you missed it earlier:

    http://www.acreaturecomfort.com/heartworminfo.htm

  • Sharon Ours

    After what happened to my older dog.  I use garlic pills for dogs for fleas and ticks and then I use the Skin so soft Blue moisturizing bath gel from Avon after I shampoo them twice with regular dog shampoo and use the SSS for the last shampoo.  Had no ticks or fleas on my dogs last year.  I do a test for heart worms I don’t do any of the poisons for the worms on my dogs. When I have them tested and find anything then I will treat it.  Listerine mouth wash keeps the mosquitoes from biting us and our dogs.  When I do S&R practice I put some on both of us.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    last month was the first time I cut one as it was the only one I had and it was the 11.5 mg dose.  I need to order some more.  There is a smaller dosage of Interceptor for up to 10 pounds that is 2.3 mg.  According to the study (which used Milbemycin oxime), dogs 2-50 pounds took the 2.3 mg dose instead of going up to 11.5 mg (26-50 lb dog dose).  I don’t know if the medication is equally distributed, but haven’t had mosquitoes around here yet.  I plan on just getting the small dog dose (2.3 mg) and I usually give it close to 30 days, but sometimes it ends up being 5 weeks.

  • Mary Lou

    I use Heartgard.  This may be a dumb question, but how do you know you are getting an equal amount if you cut it?  What if the formulation is not equally dispensed throughout?  So….how much of one do you give your pugs?  Dupree weighs 14 lbs.  I have been giving it every 45 days.  Are you giving it monthly?

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I use an Interceptor soft chew (like Heartguard soft chew). It is easy to cut. I order it online. 

  • Mary Lou

    Sandy, Melissa, whomever ~ can you get this here or just Europe as Shawna stated??  I would love to use this.  I read about it this afternoon.  I am too reluctant to go without since, according to the maps, we are a start on 1 and end on 1 area.

  • Mike P

    Thanks Shawna I found some soft gel 1000mg milk thistle.So 1 cap of milk thistle a day for a week?Does that seem like enough? After the rev that is…

  • Shawna

    Hi Sandy ~~ YES, this is much better..  Low dose Revolution (just treats the heartworm and not mange, ticks and intestinal parasites)..  BUT, you apparently have to move to Europe to have access to it…??

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    What about doing the SafeHeart dosing?  I think this was posted by Melissa? Can’t remember.  It’s the low dose (of Interceptor) for heartworm prevention.

    http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/Products/ApprovedAnimalDrugProducts/FOIADrugSummaries/ucm054862.htm

  • Shawna

    Hi Mike P and thank you VERY much for the props..  Made me smile!!!   :0)

    I think you would be fine but it wouldn’t hurt to give a little less just to be safe…  Maybe give a clove or clove and half 3 times a week and make sure to have 2 or 3 days where she isn’t getting garlic from tripe or fresh — doesn’t have to be consecutive days but helpful if it is.

    There is nothing wrong with canned tripe (except it will have some BPA — all of the larger canned foods do).  Raw is just healthier as the enzymes and probiotics naturally found in raw tripe are destroyed by the canning process..  My Audrey is allergic to cow tripe and that is the only kind I have been able to find fresh.  So she gets canned venison and lamb Tripett off and on.

    The Revolution — honestly, as much as I hate to say this :) , I think it important you give it every six weeks.  All the recommendations I’ve read/heard are that they CAN be effective up to 60 days but it is wise to give the products every 45 days or every 6 weeks to ensure effectiveness (whichever is easier to remember).  Revolution only kills the immature heartworm so if some make it to adulthood — the drug won’t have an effect on them..  I’d rather see you give it every 45 days FOLLOWED by a week of milk thistle then every 60 days without the milk thistle.  Just my opinion though…  I’m sure others will chime in if they have thoughts on the topic :)

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Sandy………

    I saw the DR Karen Becker video, she likes freeze dried, Its something that’s good to use, she is not a big fan of dry, or fish pet food. With cheaper brands 
    it could be a nightmare feeding fish pet foods. She like’s wet food better than dry , all the more reason for me to get that tripett.

  • Mike P

    Shawna is canned tripe unhealthy??

  • Mike P

    Sorry Shawna just got a chance to get on the laptop. Tripett Sunday ,Monday,and Tuesday.1/3 can those days.I added 2 cloves of garlic today but some of it was still in the garlic squeezing thing,so she didn’t get quite 2 cloves.I thought 3 times a week of garlic would be good for the summer.My wife bought a 6 month supply of revolution. I thought we would give her a dose every 2 months.Any thoughts my very smart friend???

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I’m going to give K9 Natural freeze dried tripe a try too and use it as a sprinkle on top of their kibble. My dogs are small so just a teaspoon would do.  I’m using Instinct sprinkles right now.  They like that too.

  • Shawna

    Hi John ~~ what a wonderful compliment!!  The pressure is on now!!!! ;)

    That is awesome that Christo is enjoying his meals enough to eat consistantly!!!!! 

    Like GSDGal’s Collie, my pups would all do very naughty things to get at tripe..  You can also find tripe chew treats (my store carries buffalo tripe chews)..  AND, if you ever find a source of raw tripe — get it…  Christo will go BONKERS…  Plus, it’s healthier then the canned.. 

    Did you offer Kitzen some tripe?  Some cats like tripe too..

  • GSDGal ;)

    John,

    My dogs LOVE it!!!!!!! I have a rough collie who will go to great lengths to get some of it! I’ve had him steal a good share of a can when I’m not around! Naughty! naughty! :)

  • Johnandchristo

    HI Shawna……

    When I’m not sure about something, one thing is certain, Shawna will know !! Thank you. I’m going to get the tripett, after reading Dr Mike’s review, and 
    everybody’s success I’m sold. By mixing it up, I’ve got Christo eating every day. Plus a handle on his allergy’s.   

  • Shawna

    Hi John :)

    I can get Tripett from my local mom and pop health food store, and evey one of the local (four now) natural pet food store in my area.  If they don’t carry it ask if they can get it — their supplier may carry it even if they don’t..  The place I shop carries the beef but I have her order in (at no extra cost to me) the lamb and venison as needed..  I just have to purchase a case at a time..  I have her special order stuff for me often.  As long as one of her suppliers carries it, she has no problem doing it for me.. :)

    YES, the canend tripe is definetly easier then rabbit :) …  You could use the tripe as a staple but through in rabbit now and then..

    No, it is not the healthiest for kitty to only eat beef – allergies, different amino acids, different fatty acids etc..  However cats are notoriously finicky and difficult to convert.  Fish is actually not a natural food for cats… :)   Their ancestors were dessert dwellers…  Dr. Becker has a great video on this topic  — http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/01/03/fish-as-a-protein-source.aspx

    Christo and Kitzen are very lucky fur-babies!!! ;)

  • Johnandchristo

    GSDgal;)

    Thank you, this stuff looks great , How did your dogs like it? It is really good for them , from what mike sagman wrote. I think mike P likes it to.

  • GSDGal ;)

    Johnandchristo,

    I know I’m not Shawna but, I think you can order Tripett on doggiefood . com take out spaces of course. I am pretty sure that’s where I got mine.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Shawna…..

    Do you know where to but Tripett? is it on line? This looks like a great topper, for my spoiled dog.He has really grown, I’ve been mixing Newman’s Own organic beef a lot into red meat kibble. He has been eating every day, for about 2
    months now. (before brothers he ate every other day) My cat wont eat any other kind of wet food now, I’m worried, is too much beef bad for a cat?
    This cat does not like fish, he (kitzen) only likes meat. He was a rescue. I’m not worried about Christo, I rotate, he is done with beef now and on fish kibble with salmon.I got him 2 rabbits for his turkey kibble. cans of tripe sounds easier than rabbits lol.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    If your concerned with the vits/minerals or don’t feed with other complete/balanced foods, there’s also ZiwiPeak canned tripe and Solid Gold and Merrick Before Grain have a canned tripe that’s complete and balanced.

  • Shawna

    Are you using the Tripett every day Mike P?  And, how much fresh garlic do you give her each time you feed it?

  • Mike P

    I just started topping with the Tripett green tripe.It contains garlic as the 3rd ingedient.Should I cut back on the 3 times a week I put fresh crushed garlic in Jubilee’s food?

  • hagelult

    This is a canned product, so there won’t be any harmful bacteria.

  • hagelult

    Hi Marian,
    I fed Tripett do my dog for about a year (then switched to raw tripe). I fed my 70 lb. bloodhound puppy 1 large can a day, I’m not sure which size can you’re feeding (they have a 5.5 oz and a 13 oz) but if you’re feeding the 13 oz. that would be way too much for a 5 lb. dog. If you’re feeding the small can that should be fine. Tripett can and should be fed with another food, it is a nutritious add in, not a complete diet (there are no vitamins or minerals added). I combined it with THK to boost the protein and fat content of the THK. As long as you feed Tripett combined with a complete and balanced food your dog will be getting all the nutrition he needs (with a tasty nutritious boost!)

  • Guest

    this looks like it would be good for arthritis!

  • Marian

    Finally……!! Something my toy poodle will eat every time. He is about a year and 1/2 and we have been on a roller coaster from him getting GI disease and having two plasma transfusions to pacreatitis and luxating patella… I’ve spent the last year trying to figure out what he will eat and wont, don’t want to mention the money. I was at the point of making him something new every night which can be soo tedious… Who would have guessed he would scarf down the most disgusting smelling food of them all?? Haha I’m so thankful for this stuff.
    >
    > I do have a question though? He has been on this food for 2 weeks, he is 5lbs and eats about a can a day. After reading and researching is this to be fed with other food? Im scared he won’t eat it if I add another food to it.. Any suggestions???? Help I want to make sure he is getting everything he needs.

  • Joddger

    My dog’s ammune system was comprimised and she was very ill for a long time. Would this introduce harmful bacteria to her system.

  • Gordon

    Jill – My 2 cents….Lactating mums, should be fed a higher daily amount of food, just like growing pups. High protein, raw meaty bones, offal (minimise liver for the time being because of its too high a vitamin A content), and quality nutrient dense, non grain carbs such as green leafy vegetables.

    Feed her about 3 times a day of a good portion of a rotation of various animal sources of raw meaty bones, various offal (add about 10% of offal to any one whole raw meaty meal. Feed, a rotation of moderately fat containing meats such as lamb, pork and beef etc. A lactating mum needs a good proportion of meat sourced protein (quality amino acids), and fat, and a small to no carbohydrate content.

    Exactly the same amounts and regime can be fed to growing pups, plus raw liver. I feed my adult dogs, one whole meal of raw lamb or chicken liver, with nothing else added, once every fortnight, as per Dr. Tom Lonsdale’s recommendation. Growing pups can have such once a week IMO.

  • Gordon

    Hi ChadMLane. It’s nice to read from a
    fellow ‘Prey Model’ feeder. A feeder of a diet to dogs, just as Mother
    Nature intended. But sometimes its OK to substitute these better quality
    processed pet foods like this Trippet canned, which looks to provide a
    nutritious meal. At least on paper.

  • ChadMLane

    Jorge I understand why they used Garlic, but why not just use mixed tocopherol as a postoperative? It’s around the same price, and adds Vitamin E which will help them use Omega fatty acids? Also I know the lab tests said it holds most of the nutrient profile of RAW tripe, the heating process must have killed many of the actual enzymes in the tripe. Maybe I shall email them for the actual lab results.

    As a Prey Model RAW feeder I use this product from time to time, from the lack of RAW Green Tripe sources, I also use the Venison mostly due to the fact the omega fatty acids are in a better ratio than the beef tripe, even though it has 5% less omega 3′s. 

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Jill… I’ll defer the answer to your question to a qualified breeder (of any breed). In any case, remember, if your mama Min Pin is still lactating, she needs a lot of quality food that’s AAFCO rated for growth and reproduction (a.k.a. “all life stages”).

    Also, the puppies shouldn’t be on solid food until they’re mature enough to handle it. Hopefully, one of our experienced breeders on our site will be better able to help you, too.

    Thanks for rescuing this sweet dog in her time of need. You’re a good person to do this for her. Good luck.

  • Jill

    I rescued an undernourished min pin off the street who gave birth to four healthy pups the very next day. I have been adding Tripett canned food to a high quality dry kibble because she just won’t eat the kibble alone. From all that I read, this is a good choice for this new mama and her pups. But is there anything else I should be doing to make sure she and her offspring are getting the best start? And she weighs about 12 pounds – any thoughts on what is the maximum canned tripe I should feed her per day?

  • Jorge

    Mike, Tripett uses a VERY SMALL amount of garlic. The reason is they use it as a natural preservative. Tripett is well aware garlic can, in much higher doses than those found in Tripett, be harmful to dogs. I know Tripett’s owners. These guys are not solely about turning a profit. The really do care about dogs, and are only interested in making a safe, nutritious, high quality product. Both the lamb and the venison tripe they use comes from free range, New Zealand animals. The tripe is unprocessed and unbleached, hence retaining all the naturally-ocurring fatty acids, digestive enzymes and amino acids present in the tripe. Also, Tripett is made in the USA. Like I said, it’s super quality stuff. Finally, dogs go absolutely berzerk over it. It’s like watching Dr. Dog and Mr. Wolf transformation!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Adele… You can find the answer to your question in our library article about dry matter basis. By the way, I’m not aware of a product called frozen Tripett.

  • Adele

    When the tripett fat levels say for eg. 7% on the can; is that what it really is? Have you heard of frozen tripett?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Christy… Real meat (especially tripe) works great with Orijen. Hey, just about anything works with Orijen. By the way, be sure to check out my response to your comment on the Orijen Adult review.

  • Jonathan

    From the review above, first two lines:

    “The first ingredient in this dog food lists lamb tripe. Tripe usually consists of the first three chambers of an animal’s stomach. As repulsive as it may seem to us humans, tripe is favored by dogs and sometimes even includes the stomach’s contents.

    In any case, lamb meat (and especially tripe) is naturally rich in all ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.”

    If your dogs tummies tolerate it, and they like the taste, then why not mix it with Orijen? Obviously Mike likes this product, hence the 5 star rating.

  • Christy

    Mike, I feed my 2 dogs Orijen (posted my comments) and use BG canned as a topping. I have tried others but since I feed my dogs grain free I want something which is all beef or chicken, etc without additional stuff. It seems as if this brand would work specifically for what I want- a topper….what exactly is tripe and what is your opinion on using alongside Orijen? Thanks