Life’s Abundance (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★½

Life’s Abundance Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4.5 stars.

The Life’s Abundance product line includes four dry dog foods. Although each appears to be designed for a specific life stage, we were unable to find AAFCO nutritional profile recommendations for these dog foods on the product’s web page.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Life’s Abundance for Puppies and Adults
  • Life’s Abundance Small/Medium Breed Puppies
  • Life’s Abundance Large Breed Puppies (4 stars)
  • Life’s Abundance Weight Loss Formula for Adults

Life’s Abundance for Puppies and Adults was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Life's Abundance for Puppies and Adults

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 29% | Fat = 18% | Carbs = 45%

Ingredients: Chicken meal, ground brown rice, oat groats, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols, a natural source of vitamin E), dried beet pulp, brewers dried yeast, flaxseed meal, natural flavors, dried egg product, catfish meal, calcium carbonate, lecithin, potassium chloride, dried carrots, canola oil, monosodium phosphate, dried celery, dl-methionine, l-lysine, salt, dried blueberries, fructooligosaccharide, taurine, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium thermophilum fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, vitamin E supplement, dried broccoli, dried beets, zinc proteinate, zinc sulfate, pomegranate extract, dried parsley, dried lettuce, dried watercress, dried spinach, manganese proteinate, beta-carotene, niacin supplement, manganese sulfate, inositol, ferrous sulfate, iron proteinate, thiamine mononitrate, zinc oxide, biotin, riboflavin supplement, copper sulfate, selenium yeast, pyridoxine hydrochloride, d-calcium pantothenate, copper proteinate, manganous oxide, vitamin A acetate, potassium iodide, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 3.9%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis26%16%NA
Dry Matter Basis29%18%45%
Calorie Weighted Basis25%37%39%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The second ingredient is ground rice, another name for rice flour. Ground rice is made from either white or brown rice and is considered a gluten-free substitute for wheat flour.

The third ingredient is oat groats, a whole grain, minimally processed form of oats. With the exception of their caloric content and the fact they’re also gluten free, oat groats can be considered average in nutritional value.

The fourth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The fifth ingredient is beet pulp. Beet pulp is a controversial ingredient, a high fiber by-product of sugar beet processing.

Some denounce beet pulp as an inexpensive filler while others cite its outstanding intestinal health and blood sugar benefits.

We only call your attention here to the controversy and believe the inclusion of beet pulp in reasonable amounts in most dog foods is entirely acceptable.

The sixth ingredient is brewers yeast can be a controversial item. Although it’s a by-product of the beer making process, this ingredient is rich in minerals and other healthy nutrients.

Fans believe yeast repels fleas and supports the immune system.

Critics argue yeast ingredients can be linked to allergies. This may be true, but (like all allergies) only if your particular dog is allergic to the yeast itself.

In addition, a vocal minority insists yeast can increase the risk of developing the life-threatening condition known as bloat. However, this is a claim we’ve not been able to scientifically verify.

In any case, unless your dog is specifically allergic to it, yeast can still be considered a nutritious additive.

What’s more noteworthy here is that brewers yeast contains about 48% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The seventh ingredient is flaxseed meal, one of the best plant-based sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Flax meal is particularly rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

After the natural flavor, we find dried egg product, a dehydrated form of shell-free eggs. Quality can vary significantly. Lower grade egg product can even come from commercial hatcheries — from eggs that have failed to hatch.

In any case, eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The next ingredient is catfish meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

We are pleased to note that, unlike many fish meals, this particular item appears2 to be ethoxyquin-free.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With four notable exceptions

First, canola oil can be a controversial item. That’s because some worry that canola oil is made from rapeseed, a genetically modified (GMO) raw material.

Yet others cite the fact canola oil can be a significant source of essential omega-3 fatty acids.

In any case, plant-based oils like canola are less biologically available to a dog than fish oil as a source of quality omega-3 fats.

Next, this recipe contains fructooligosaccharide, an alternative sweetener3 probably used here as a prebiotic. Prebiotics function to support the growth of healthy bacteria in the large intestine.

In addition, this food includes chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

And lastly, this recipe also contains selenium yeast. Unlike the more common inorganic form of selenium (sodium selenite), this natural yeast supplement is considered a safer anti-cancer alternative.

Life’s Abundance Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Life’s Abundance looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 29%, a fat level of 18% and estimated carbohydrates of about 45%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 30% and a mean fat level of 16%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 46% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 55%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the brewers yeast and flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a notable amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Life’s Abundance is a plant-based dry dog food using a notable amount of chicken meal as its main source of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4.5 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content.

Those looking for a quality wet food to go with this product may wish to visit our review of Life’s Abundance canned dog food.

Special Alert

Rice ingredients can sometimes contain arsenic. Until the US FDA establishes safe upper levels for arsenic content, pet owners may wish to limit the total amount of rice fed in a dog's daily diet.

A Final Word

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Although it's our goal to ensure all the information on this website is correct, we cannot guarantee its completeness or its accuracy; nor can we commit to ensuring all the material is kept up-to-date on a daily basis.

Each review is offered in good faith and has been designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food.

However, our rating system is not intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in specific health benefits for your pet.

For a better understanding of how we analyze each product, please read our article, "The Problem with Dog Food Reviews".

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt, consult a qualified veterinary professional for help.

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Notes and Updates

04/01/2010 Original review
10/02/2010 Review updated
06/28/2012 Review updated
01/17/2014 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  2. Life’s Abundance Customer Service via email, 10/4/2010
  3. Wikipedia definition
  • Cherri

    BCnut, as I said, I’m a terrible salesperson lol I have no direct customers, I have a very old down line. Many of the people within that down line are not at all interested in this site. I am a consumer, my identity as a rep does not change that fact. I’ve fed this food since it’s introduction. As a rep I’m offering to answer any product questions anyone may have as I believe in information. As a customer with dogs who have eaten the product their entire lives I am commenting on my extreme satisfaction with the product. I have fed the food to 2 different breeds in all stages of life from puppies, to pregnant and nursing bitches to elderly dogs. There’s a reason someone would stick with and recommend a product for 15 yrs, because they are very satisfied with it. I’m certainly not getting rich simply due to being an independent representative. My daughter is also using the cat food and she’s very pleased, my sister feeds the dog food as well. There’s nothing shady about my being pleased with the products. I just choose to be up front about the fact that I’m a rep. My review of the food is just as honest as the next person’s. I have others I like as well that I will comment on.

  • theBCnut

    Keith Lawson, a rep who came here and didn’t identify himself right away, said that. But he did finally explain what he meant, 5 or 10 posts later.
    Just about the only people who come here and tout this product are reps. Maybe, if you have so many happy customers, you should encourage them to come and leave an honest review, so we can learn how people who aren’t trying to increase company sales feel about this food. JMO

  • Cherri

    Pam, LA is not “made to order.” The kibble is just made in small batches that are shipped and sold quickly. Basically this is so when the food arrives to you it is quite fresh. If someone sets their auto ship correctly they should not run out of food, if they run out (. Like I have lol no biggie) I simple grab something else to feed while waiting for our LA shipment. I try to find something similar made at the same place such as Evangers Chicken and Rice ( pet shop 3 blocks from me sells this.)

  • Cherri

    Life’s Abundance came on the market in approx 1999 :)

  • Cherri

    Excuse typos please, it’s not allowing corrections below.

  • Cherri

    Sorry, the below was not finished. Ohio Pet Foods is a manufacturing plant that is APHIS approved and also has never experienced a recall on any of the feeds they pack for others or their own. A few years ago OPH purchased ownership of Blackwood Pet Foods from the family which owned that company. OPH had always manufactured BW anyway but they now also own BW.

    If anyone has any questions about Life’s Abundance that Mike does not typically answer ( such as kibble size or prices) please feel free to ask me. I’m a terrible salesperson but I am excellent at helping answer questions :)

    Cherri

  • Cherri

    I have been involved with and feeding LA since it was released about 15 years ago. Yes, I am a representative just to identify myself, no I am not posting this to sell anything.

    I was very excited when the food was released because it was everything I was looking for. I lost a 14 yr old GSD last that basically only ever ate Life’s Abundance. She never has skin or coat issues, never had tarter issues either. She had a beautiful full coat and proper weight and muscling. She was also fed LA as well as Blackwood 2000 while in whelp to a litter of 12, we lost one during birth but even that puppy was perfect. Her placenta had separated and it took too long for her to be born. I love this kibble and Jane ;) LA is not “made to order” as in you call and order it and they make it, I don’t know who said that or why. It is made in small batches to avoid various dates of foods, so that what is ordered is fresh. LA is made at Ohio Pet Foods, this plant uses a lower temperature slow cook method that prevents over cooking some nutrients while being sure to thoroughly cook any carbs. This results in a level of digestibility not seen in a lot of kibble on the market. Oh

  • Sandra Brimmer

    I’ve had many of my pets dogs and cats on this since 2002…. you can’t say a bad thing about this!

  • Sandra Brimmer

    YEP that is one of the benefits of LA!

  • Sandra Brimmer

    you need to talk to the FORMULATOR Dr. Jane Bicks about your mis assumptions of some of the things you say here. You are incorrect in a lot of what you wrote. I’ve shared many emails with Dr. Bicks to understand the ingredients. You are NOT a scientist nor a vet to be qualified to make these assumptions since Dr. Bicks has done a lot of research over the years with the help of universities in understanding the genetics of dogs and cats plus what they eat and by the way… this is the ONLY pet food company that is APHIS certified and that means… humans can eat this too! doesn’t sit on warehouse shelves nor are sold in stores… many of you are just plain SNOWED by the commercial pet foods and their marketing gimmicks!

  • Ry Chusnes

    The last part, after her harassment..

    Raven, I was going to drop it at that, since I bid you a good day but since you simply insult and persist, I’ll be happy to pass along this to every dog advising website, with your information and the company reputation and name, that contributes to any type of ‘natural’, organic and otherwise. I’ve talked with a few already. I’m sure they’ll get a kick out of your response and pass it along so others will know what type of ‘potential employer’ you and your company are, along with the ingredients you yourself said you use. Have a fantastic Sunday. Any further contact from you or your company will be considered as personal harassment and handled as such. Do NOT contact me further.

  • http://www.TAPF.com/ Barry Collier

    I’m not about this brand knocking other brands and only promoting itself on by constantly blogging about good their products are.

  • cj badger

    Thanks. Everyone is a little different. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. My main goal is to sell quality dog food instead of the junk everyone picks up because it’s cheap.

  • Crazy4cats

    I agree with Shawna. It sounds like you are responsible considering the situation that you are in. It seems like a lot of people are jumping to conclusions without knowing the whole story.

  • cj badger

    I hear you. Rural communities are a nightmare. I sometimes wish city people could start a campaign/march/rally what ever it would take to bring justice to county animals. I think if you just drove down our 1 lane roads and see these atrocities it would make you sick. I am disheartened daily with what I see going on around here. We have no humane shelter of any kind. The City has a municipal building with some cages. They collect the strays when forced to and haul them in for euthanasia every 2 days. Pitiful.

  • Shawna

    Our county humane society is VERY VERY VERY active in the community including in city/county ordinances/laws. The city was trying to ban pit and pit type dogs some years back. If not for the humane society they probably would have. Reps from the HS suggested muzzling instead. Muzzling with a caveat — IF the dog passes a good citizen test they can wear a vest instead of a muzzle. And I was told by an HS employee that the cost of the test is $10 no matter how often the dog has to come in for training in order to pass the test.. :)

    And I was wrong about the chaining law — it has changed since I last knew. Per the HS website, the new law requires a dog be tethered no longer than 15 minutes UNLESS an adult is present the entire time the dog is on the chain and the chain can not weigh more than 1/8th the total body weight of the dog.. NICE

    As mentioned, I’m in a city.. Counties in rural areas are not nearly as dog friendly and because this is an agricultural state it is hard to get laws passed that give animals “rights”. :(

  • cj badger

    Yes, it is unique. I am in a very rural area and surrounded by the “good old boys” syndrome…which I disagree with. I usually have to avert my eyes at the parking lot sellers…it is pitiful. But I am not the only one with this type of situation. I know some guys that breed great dogs and occasionally bring them up to my store to sell them on “Free Dip Saturdays” or when the spay & neuter van is here. I don’t tell them no. It’s kind of a social gathering thing and they can put their dogs through their paces so everyone can enjoy the exhibition. Sometimes sales are made, and I don’t interfere. Since I am female I have a lot of flack on my trained dogs, but usually come out on top. I spend a lot of time with the dogs and it shows when they get to compete.

  • Shawna

    You are sounding like a responsible breeder in my opinion at least. But I hope you can understand why your situation is probably unique in that respect…. In my specific location you can be assured that your puppy is a mill bred dog if sold in a store or away from where the dogs are bred (like grocery store parking lot etc). It is even common for dogs to be transported to legit farms JUST to meet prospective adopters. And now millers are pretending to be rescues.. UGHHH

    Edit — I’m in a city environment…

  • cj badger

    Everyone seems to have a different set of red flags and or opinions vary. The trend I see here is that no one is open to any new type of situation. Very sad.

  • cj badger

    Let me be a little clearer. I am not trying to sell dogs here. I just disagree with a lot of the very righteous sentiment here and am trying to tell you to lighten up…there are exceptions to every rule. Several of you seem to have a very narrow view and make no exceptions to anything, therefore you must be right period.

    In 40 years, I have had to retrieve a total of 5 dogs and not because of health problems. Strictly because the owners could no longer keep them in an ongoing situation. The dogs were placed in appropriate homes.

    Getting back to the original theme here, I sell only premium dog foods. My top sellers are Diamond Naturals & Taste of the Wild. My biggest seller by far (and what I feed) is Victor. I do not sell cheap filler dog foods like most feed stores.I switched my GSD’s to Victor 4 years ago and have great success. I have exceptions to this – 3 of my dogs get LA because they do better on it. All three of these dogs are mixed mutt strays that were dumped on me. After spaying them, they were “repurposed” into cattle guard dogs and are quite effective at keeping the coyotes out of my hereford pasture. They have an abundance of allergies and just thrive better on LA dog food. I also have 1 mixed mutt small house dog (formerly abandoned stray) that can eat only Vital because of a liver problem. But the majority of my dogs thrive and excel on Victor. Because I am a Victor advocate, does not mean each dog doesn’t get something else if he/she needs it. People that can’t change their attitudes and rules are very small minded. That said, I will probably no longer follow these posts. They don’t seem to be going anywhere but down.

  • cj badger

    I have a feed store. My pups are not caged at the store but loose in pens both in and out of the store proper. I have crate trained pups before when the owner requests it. There is also a live feed web cam of my kennels that is broadcasted in my store 24/7….so people can see and I can make sure everyone is tended to.
    After 40 years of breeding, I don’t need to “trick” anyone into buying a puppy and have a very long waiting list since I don’t breed but a few litters a year.

  • cj badger

    That is wonderful! Dogs stay chained here year round -with a tub to crawl into if their chain is not twisted…or worse run free and kill everything in sight. I love your humane society and wish we had one even close to here. How did you get those laws passed? I sure could use some pointers and/or help in that direction.,

  • cj badger

    Vets will occasionally tell me that peoples dogs are up to date on their shots. They will not give out information about their clients. It is unethical to do so. I don’t give out employee info either (it’s against the law). And what do you do about new dog owners? They can’t have a pup because they have never owned one?
    It’s 70 miles to the nearest town that has a Walmart. It’s 210 miles to the nearest big city. My day starts at 4 AM in the kennels and cattle barn, then I go to my feed store and my day ends about 10 PM. You think I should drive to ask people that don’t know me from Adam about their neighbors? That’s offensive to say the least.

  • cj badger

    Hello?!? Have you heard of break ins? Casing the joint? Middle of the National Forest…1000 access points! I am the sole farm in that location!

  • Melissaandcrew

    CJ actually said that he/she has had people “come back”…same scenario as what happened to my ac units.

  • InkedMarie

    I do understand what you’re all saying but if you’re a reputable breeder, that’s something you have to do (let people in your home). There are also many things one can do to protect your stuff, to the best of your ability: locks, deadbolts, bars over windows, alarm system, guard dogs. Jmo of course.

  • InkedMarie

    Excellent post.

  • Crazy4cats

    As Melissa said, they see something they like and they come back when no one is around and take it. I don’t let people “traips” around my property either and my car got broken into last week. I’m not saying she shouldn’t let people come to her home to view pups, but I understand the concern. Just saying you seem to be surprised about things being stolen and it happens every day. There are many gosh darn thieves among us. That’s why I’m very concerned about even advertising anything on Craig’s list. It’s hard to trust anyone anymore. I agree I would want to see the living conditions if I were to buy a new pup though.

  • InkedMarie

    I guess I don’t understand how a breeder can have someone in their home to look at puppies & have something stolen. Unless they’re in the bathroom, they shouldn’t be alone.

  • Melissaandcrew

    That’s not true. We once went out and came home to find both airconditioners stolen out of the boarding kennel windows. Brand new to boot. It had to have been someone that boarded their dog or came to meet a rescue as we can not be seen from the road.

  • Betsy Greer

    And the scenario you set forth would raise a whole bunch of red flags for me. I’d say thanks, but no thanks.

  • smitty

    The problem with the way you sell dogs is that you use many of the same tactics that puppy mills do and the people who buy from you are the same people who are duped into buying puppy mill dogs.

    ie:

    I will tell you all about the wonderful conditions my breeders live in, you just can’t see it for yourself. I can show you pictures if you’d like.

    I have a store and I am a sweet lady therefore my puppies are bred in the the most humane conditions possible.

    I work with all the local rescues because I am an animal lover first and a breeder second.

    I have had bad experiences in the past letting people come to my house so I don’t do that anymore, I hope you understand.

    The list goes on and on.

    While you may be everything you say you are you may also be a puppy mill. Sad but true.

    The people you sell dogs to are the same people who get tricked into buying puppy mill dogs.

  • Shawna

    My state has some serious room for improvement but the county I am in is FANTASTIC.. It is even illegal to chain a dog for more than two hours in a row and the law is enforced as best able. Our humane society is, without a doubt, one of the best in the nation – no kill unless medically necessary, works with local rescues, does not support breed specific legislation, lots of fundraising, has a day camp and training facility, actively seeks underground dog fighting including monetary compensation for info that leads to an arrest etc..

  • InkedMarie

    Yes, I am secure in my beliefs. I have certain requirements from the breeders if I’m buying a puppy; one of those is being able to come to your home.

    We are in agreement, you won’t sell to me nd I won’t buy from you. It’s all good, no disrespect meant. We just have different beliefs.

  • InkedMarie

    You said people have stolen from you; they can’t do that unless you’re letting them alone in your house.

  • InkedMarie

    How do you check someone out? You talk to their references, to their vets. You do a home check. While you’re there, you speak to neighbors.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Everyone has a different idea of what a responsible, reputable breeder is. There are very few that would make my list, because the first thing on my list is proving the dog and bitch are worthy of breeding by using them to a high degree in the field that the breed was developed for. A herding dog that doesn’t herd should be neutered, not bred. I don’t think just because a dog is pure bred, good looking, structurally sound, an AKC champion, or many other, worthless titles make a dog worthy of breeding.

  • cj badger

    “traipsing” around is meant at “other” places I have no control over, not my place. I have 100 acres in the middle of a national forest which makes it pretty hard to control every access. And how do you check potential buyers out? I have talked to people who say all the right things, answer all the questions the right way, and show up not the responsible person I formed a picture of. Not to mention outright lying. Anyone can be a potential buyer , just as anyone can NOT be a potential buyer. My male GSD lives in my house and travels extensively with my husband to job sites. When he is in town, he (dog) comes to the store with me regularly and has quite a fan following (he is well trained and friendly). My 12 females live in a great environment, large 16 X 32 kennels with custom built houses & porches (also allowed the run of the farm -together, because they don’t fight- when I am home) but do not travel with me. They represent a huge financial investment and I am protective of them. I don’t sell retired breeders, when a dog is retired, she has earned a good retired life for the rest of her time on my farm…not to mention I am very attached to my adult dogs. When a litter is ready to be sold, the dam of course comes to the store with her litter so she can be made available to “strut her stuff” for admirers.
    I am sure you are very secure in your beliefs, but you are probably not someone I would sell a pup to. My dogs are bred for family dogs, to live and let live a great dogs life being a dog in the family.

  • cj badger

    Our county is horrible. No humane laws or ordinances what so ever! the people here treat ALL of the animals here horribly! I can’t tell you the number of times I have gotten in trouble throwing bales of hay over the fence to horses so starved they could barely walk. Pit bulls, cur dogs, etc are bred indiscriminately and use for “hog” dogs in the forest….they are starved and beaten to make them “hunt” —instead of training them properly. And I disagree about your views on puppy mills though I respect them. These people will be in business no matter what and that is a hard fact of life. I despise our lack of laws on this subject and put my views to vote every election. However, I haven’t been able to change a single thing but will never give up trying to get people involved.

  • InkedMarie

    First, you should get checking out your potential buyers before inviting them in your home. Second, you don’t let anyone “traipse” around. They are there to talk to you, see puppies, see the dam and sire if he’s on site.

    If I could not come to a breeders home to check them out, they’re not someone I’d ever think about buying from. Jmo.

  • Shawna

    Hi cj badger,

    I stand corrected, there are obviously exceptions to the rule.

    I am in a puppy mill state and I have spoke with our ONE person that enforces the laws for the whole state here (or at least was the only till the state started fining rescues to help pay for another person — so now we have two). The laws are a joke. He goes in and finds violations but can do nothing but give a warning. Then he doesn’t have the time to go back for who knows how long to confirm rules are being followed. He is also responsible for hoarders and bogus rescues. A lot on the plate of two people that can’t seize dogs without major hoops being met…. Hopefully other states aren’t so bad but I hear many of the “puppy mill” states are worse than us.

    If you buy puppies and retired breed dogs from an active miller you are giving them the funds to purchase their next breeders. Most of the rescues around here will only purchase from those going out of business and they can’t get them all, except for the really old and ill, as they are being outbid by other millers. I personally haven’t been to an auction but I’ve spoke with many that do regularly. The rescue I foster for does have a relationship with several breeders however and the retiring dogs, or those in need of extensive medical treatments, are given to us free of charge. These are more the back yard breeders versus the millers though.

  • cj badger

    And I agree with this post wholeheartedly!

  • cj badger

    I also do not let people come to my home. It is not advisable to do so. I have had them come back, items (as well as dogs) stolen AND I have a full time caretaker! As well as preventing an outside disease being tracked in by shoppers and looky-loos who have spent the day traipsing around.,

  • cj badger

    I don’t agree with this at all. I am a reputable breeder and I own a pet shop. We are a small rural community in a town of only 1200 people. I sell my own puppies and trained dogs thru my shop as well as other local breeders puppies.
    Where are people supposed to learn and buy dogs from in this type of setting? I also foster and rescue many of the county animals, pay their vet bills as well as their spay/neuter out of my own pocket – a pocket that gets it’s revenue from my pet shop which sells my puppies. Most of my rescues go to the fixed income elderly people without an adoption fee. I see the dogs regularly for dog food, flea & worm medication purchases -which is a much better solution than the county pound euthanasia program.
    I don’t agree with puppy mills either, but there are unscrupulous people in every trade. If we don’t “rescue” their puppies, they wind up with horrible futures. And yes, a few of my dogs are on this dog food because they don’t do well on anything else…even though I sell other brands.
    You are deluded if you think they won’t stay in business. Not buying their pups is NOT the answer! Investigation and filing complaints with the proper authorities is the answer…and sticking with it! Don’t just report and walk away. Our county sheriff doesn’t care about it and does not enforce any complaints about animal abuse because our county doesn’t have anything on the books about it. But I have found thru hard work that you can eventually get an agency with some teeth that will come and do something about it.

  • InkedMarie

    Why is that? Pitlady brought up adopting dogs; I responded with my opinion.

  • Gayle C Clemens

    that is not true, but outsiders can bring in parvo and you must protect your babies and your property from this virus

  • Gayle C Clemens

    this is not the venue for this type of convo

  • Gayle C Clemens

    but sugar beets are a gmo food product, this is my only exception to this food. But I have a lot of dogs and cannot afford to feed organic or custom homemade food.

  • DeAnna Bashira Haagenson

    yes..not ONE recall….. since 2007!!!! PEACE of MIND is wonderful!!

  • DeAnna Bashira Haagenson

    I have had Peaches, my mothers Pom on it since 2007 and now she is 15 and has great bones, eyes, and never has any health issues! Im so grateful for Lifes Abundance..Peaches still chases her toys at age 15 like she is still 5 years old! I will never change pet foods!!!

  • Pattyvaughn

    Allergies are to very specific proteins. My dog can not handle chicken muscle meat, but can handle liver and eggs without any issues. They have formulas without chicken muscle meat. You really should read the Brothers Document, you might learn something interesting.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I’m not bad mouthing this food. It’s a great food. I never said it wasn’t right for someone’s dogs, unless they have a very specific situation, and I don’t think I have even then. You’re the one who has it all wrong. You came on here saying how great the food was, but you didn’t disclose that you are a rep. That is dishonest. If you are dishonest there, why should people believe you about the rest. I’m not bad mouthing the food at all. I’m bad mouthing the reps of this food. You aren’t the first one to do this. Not even the first one lately. If this food is having so many great successes, then tell the people you know that use this food and are not profitting off of it to come here and review it. I’m not stupid, I know you aren’t selling the food on this site, but you are telling people to find your site where they can buy it. You should have just said you were a rep in the first place. That would have made you come across as honest.

    And I didn’t suggest you read the Brothers description.

  • Keith Lawson

    I thought your dog was allergic to chicken, Brothers has chicken and egg products. It isn’t helping me to send people with intolerants to Brothers if they cant have Chicken, Do they have a formula without chicken products?

  • Keith Lawson

    No mam You are intirely wrong. What you think about me as a rep is your opinion. You aren’t getting it. I don’t come to this site to sell food. I have a website for People to come to me. People ask me about the food and my opinion on it. That is all it is an opinion. Someone pointed out to me that people were really badmouthing the food on this site, and I told them no they are only giving their opinion. Now I think I was wrong. You continue to say that everyone that likes this food are unbiased and only say it because they are reps. Not word for word, You say that only reps would do that. I don’t go to Brothers food and try to convince people that food is not right for dogs . Why do you come to this website that is not your brand and tell people how bad this food is for their pets. It sounds like that your pets have tolerance issues with this food so no one should try it. That sounds like someone trying to convince people to only buy the food you suggest. When pets have issues with this food, I would like to have some options for food for those people to try. It has nothing to do with selling this food. It is to learn about other foods. My asking if you tried this food was only a for instance. I know you can’t use this food, and its OK. This food is not for everyone, and I would never try to convince anyone of that. lol. It was not you that asked that question about the miracle food, I wanted a reaction from you and get your opinion. and I did read the Brothers description.

  • aimee

    I don’t read a lot of the human literature, but the ACVD borrowed terminology from a human group.

    I also keep in mind that because mechanisms are not well understood I see less specific term adverse food reaction being used more often. Covers all the bases: )

  • Pattyvaughn

    No, it would not have had the same results at all. My dog can’t have chicken or many grains. And there are several other differences too. Go to the Brothers website and read the Brothers Document, if you care to learn more. I don’t think Brothers, or any other food, is a miracle food. I’m sure there are many foods that would eventually take care of the issues that my dog was having. Brothers is my favorite, but I still rotate even away from it.
    BTW, thousands of people haven’t come here to report their great results with LA, and the ones who have are, like you, reps, who hope to profit by selling more people on the food. Not exactly unbiased. As I’ve told many people on this site, dog food companies want you to believe that you should pick a food and stick with it for life because it means instant customer loyalty, not because it is what is best for dogs. Dogs need to eat variety to maintain gut health, just like people do.

  • InkedMarie

    Great article, Shawna.

  • Betsy Greer

    I have to agree with the others on this Keith. Wolves are opportunistic and they’ll eat what they can get their paws on ~ it’s feast or famine.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Apparently, and not only that, but if the rabbits usually ate grass, but one found some nice red raspberry leaves to it’s liking one day, the wolf would have to give it a pass too.

    I’m supposing that some wolves only eat seasonally, since I’ve seen video of wolves eating salmon.

  • Shawna

    Okay, with Patty’s help (thanks Patty) I get what you are saying now.. Example – gluten intolerance is really not an intolerance at all but rather a food hypersensitivity (if pertaining to dogs at least). Does the human medical terms identify it the same to your knowledge?

    Sorry I had a brain block there!!!

  • Shawna

    Thank you Patty… My head got wrapped around what I thought Aimee was saying and that was that..

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Soo…if a wolf got used to eating rabbit and a quail happened to stroll by they’d just pass on it?

  • Pattyvaughn

    WOW!!! I missed that one. What an ***interesting*** perspective you have.

  • aimee

    I’m not suggesting anything… I’m reporting what the current definitions are.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Shawna, I think Aimee is saying we and our vets, etc. are not using these terms correctly according to how they are defined by medical terminology.

  • Keith Lawson

    I think Life Abundance has a money back guarantee, I once had that problem, I used a small can of their canned and mixed it. He ate it slowly for a while but later went right back to eating. It was later discovered there was a dog in heat in the area. When she went out, they returned to eating. I almost changed foods also, No one likes it when there dog wont eat.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I can tell you that my rocket scientists sleep well at night. I have 3 in the family and 2 more on the way.

  • Shawna

    Again, so you are suggesting that IgA, IgM, lymphocytes etc are NOT part of the reaction in a food intolerance?

  • aimee

    Hypersensitivity is an immune based reaction different and separate from food intolerance.

  • Keith Lawson

    Proctor and gamble sell everything from shampoo to toilet paper. Some companies sell more things. Life Abundance also sell shampoo, ear cleaners, bio spray, kennel floor kennel floor cleaner, treats and a lot of different items associated with puppies and dogs. They sell puppy insurance too. Is that a bad thing. We are going back to the buying items from a vet, pet store, or breeders. What difference does that make or have to do with the food.

  • Keith Lawson

    Why did you buy the puppy if you weren’t satisfied. Was it mandatory to use the food, or an option. Did you address the health concerns with the breeder? Is it possible your health issue could have came from a parasite, or bacteria? I thought I read your pup was treated with an antibiotic. That could mean exactly that and that it may not have been the food.

  • aimee

    If you are misunderstanding me than I suppose you are also misunderstanding the ACVD: “Food intolerance – non-immunologic adverse reactions.”

    and Small Animal Clinical Nutrition 5th edition: “Food intolerance refers to a large category of adverse food reactions due to nonimmunologic mechanisms” pg 609

    and Applied Veterinary Clinical Nutrition: ” Cutaneous adverse food reactions ( CAFR) can occur as a result of an immunologic or a nonimmunolologic response to a dietary ingredient. Nonimmunologic reactions to food include food intolerance or food idiosyncrasy…” pg 166.

    I don’t see how to understand these definitions any differently than “In current classification an intolerance doesn’t involve the immune system.”

    If you don’t like the veterinary definitions you may have to take it up with the American Academy of Allergy and Immunology as it looks like they borrowed the definitions from them. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0165242701003026

    “Prior to any discussion of the role
    of foods or food additives in atopic dermatitis (AD), it is important to
    establish and define the terms that we will refer to in this paper. We
    believe that the terminology adopted by the Adverse Food Committee of
    the American Academy of Allergy and Immunology is the most appropriate (Anderson, 1986).

    Adverse food reactions
    refer to any clinically abnormal response attributed to the ingestion
    of a food or food additive. Adverse food reactions are categorized as
    either food allergy or food intolerance reactions.

    Food allergy reactions
    refer to an immunologically mediated adverse reaction to food unrelated
    to any physiological effect of the food or food additive.

    Food intolerance reactions
    refer to any abnormal physiologic response to a food that is not
    believed to be immunologic in nature and may include food poisoning,
    food idiosyncrasy, pharmacologic reaction, or metabolic reaction.

    Good Luck!

    .

  • Shawna

    ALL grains have anti-nutrients like phytic acid that prevent minerals from being utilized by the body. Conscientious manufacturers (like I’m sure LA is) will add extras of the minerals to compensate for the phytates.

    ALL grains also have enzyme inhibitors — specifically the inhibition of enzymes that digest protein like trypsin. Aimee posted data that this is likely not a concern in kibble diets as extrusion deactivates these enzyme inhibitors but dry baking does not. I was under the impression that LA is a baked kibble? Admittedly could be wrong. If they are still active, the already low protein, in my opinion, would be even further lowered by the inhibition of protein digesting enzymes. Add to that that likely a good chunk of the protein in the food is from the oats, the bioavailablity of the amino acids may be limited. (Oats have as much protein as an equal amount (gram for gram) of 80% lean raw hamburger).

    Oats are also a food that can be contaminated with gluten during harvesting and processing of gluten grains. Those with gluten intolerance are warned to use a certified gluten free oat such as Bob’s Red Mill brand.

  • Keith Lawson

    Thanks for websites where the info comes from. That helps a lot.

  • Keith Lawson

    If a pet food brand has been given more space than others, because of different levels of food, The consumer is to assume that they must be the best food available. That’s marketing strategy. If AKC sells a certain brand of food, its most likely sponsored by them or there is a better mark up, there for they make more money. Its doesn’t mean its the best. They were purina, eukanuba who knows what before that. They want the names of everyones puppy owner bought from registered breeders. Its not because they want to keep records for you, its for more money. Breeders register their dogs, and then have to register the litters. I am OK with that because it keeps breeders honest in how many pups they need numbers for and their color and sexes.

  • Shawna

    IgE (and immune system antibody) is an immunological response in food allergies.. Are you then suggesting that an IgA response (also an immune system antibody) is not immunological? I don’t understand the point you are trying to make if not that?

    Even in the article you site they state “Clinical response to a modification in the feeding plan suggests that hypersensitivity to food antigens plays a role in dogs with chronic idiopathic or lymphocytic-plasmacytic colitis”

    Lymphocytic or lymphocytes are “A lymphocyte is a type of white blood cell in the vertebrate immune system”. So how then can they say there was not an immune response? What am I missing?

  • Shawna

    LOL, if I lose any sleep over the question I’ll certainly give them a call and ask direct.. And for the record, some things can bother me enough that I do lose sleep over them… Ughhh.. Yep, I’m a weirdo!!! Hee hee

    Can you imagine how exhausting it would be to be a rocket scientist.. My brain hurts at the end of the day over this stuff here on DFA!! I couldn’t imagine having deeper things to occupy my mind with and worry about!!! LOL

  • Keith Lawson

    My daughters cat did the same thing, We still have the cat who is now 17 years old. It was a barn cat my daughter adopted / rescued. I had a dog that the cat, was best friends with get killed. The cat loved the dog, and hasn’t had anything to do with another dog, but she lost all hair on her stomach and some patches elsewhere. The vet who suggested Kitty Prozac. That didn’t help after two month we changed her to the life Abundance food, and it cleared up. It was at least 4 years ago. Again another food may have fixed the issue also, but Lifes abundance is what we believe fixed it, and she got back to a healthy weight. When taken to the vet now for check ups 1. they can’t believe its the same cat, 2. they can’t believe she is 17 years old.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    You can buy Victor on Amazon or from or from this site: http://www.victorpet.com/#!sport-dog-food-store/ci6h

  • aimee

    Just goes to show you that you can’t force people to use the correct terminology.

    That doesn’t changed though how it is defined in veterinary medicine.

    “The terms food allergy and food hypersensitivity should be reserved for those adverse reactions to food that have an immunologic basis.
    Food intolerance refers to a large category of adverse food reactions due to nonimmunologic mechanisms.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/mmi_sacn5/Chapter+31+-+Adverse+Reactions+to+Food.pdf

  • Keith Lawson

    You guys are way more educated than me, how does MSG’s affect dogs, is it as adverse with dogs as some people.
    noticed some information about Victor having MSG’s.

  • Shawna

    You might be interested in this — Vet Dr. Karen Becker interviews Dr. Jeff Bergin, human and canine Chiropractor and breeder of Newfies. The article/vidoe is titled “A 17-Year Old Newfoundland? Discover What This Breeder Is Doing Righ” http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/04/05/how-a-newfoundland-pet-dog-reached-17-years.aspx

  • Keith Lawson

    From what I understand, The makers of Life Abundance test each ingredient prior to adding to the mixer in making the food, lol, please don’t quote me on that, as I am not a rocket scientist, I asked that question already.

  • Shawna

    Oh, Dr. Smart also has an article, written by Dr. Jean Hofve, on her website titled ”

    An Evidence Based Rebuttal to the AVMA Position on Raw” http://petnutritionbysmart.blogspot.com/2012/08/an-evidence-based-rebuttal-to-avma.html

    Below is the link to the actual article “The evidence clearly shows that Salmonella, as the most feared pathogen of raw meat diets, is not a significant threat to human or animal health.” http://www.littlebigcat.com/blog/avma-vs-raw-food/

    We all know that there have been recalls of kibble due to salmonella as well so if salmonella was the threat most concerned about then no dog eating kibble or raw should be a therapy dog.

    Additionally, Dr. Stanley Marks of the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine writes in an article in their Newsletter — “A number of bacterial organisms commonly associated with diarrhea in dogs and cats include Salmonella, Campylobacter, Clostridium perfringens and Clostridium difficile. Veterinarians are faced with a quandary when attempting to diagnose dogs and cats with suspected bacterial-associated diarrhea, because these organisms commonly represent a normal part of the host’s intestinal microflora.” http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ccah/local-assets/pdfs/newsletter_2003_fall.pdf So, their a part of the digestive tract irregardless of what the dog eats.

  • Keith Lawson

    Thank you Inked Marie, Of course I can’t speak for all breeders, but I do it for the betterment of the breed. My pups are sold with a limited registration, not to keep the bloodline to myself to charge more, and I don’t breed with any other breeds but my own. If someone wants to breed, and is doing it for the betterment of the breed, If they get all the clearances needed on DNA diseases and the hips, eyes, and elbows, and of course and guarantee they have the same requirements, I release the registration to unlimited at no extra cost. We have breeders dogs, that at pups cost $5000,00. That is why I am trying to learn as much about the foods as we can. Its like jobs, You have to continue to look for better ones after you

  • Shawna

    Hi Kitty Sweet,

    I have a pup that has had kidney disease since birth — her kidneys did not form properly. She’s had symptoms since six weeks old. She came to me at nine weeks old. I feed a HIGH protein raw diet and she started that diet immediately. At her vet visits I mentioned she drank LOTS of water and urinated LARGE amounts of liquid. Her holistic vet told me puppies drink and therefore pee more.. However she could absolutely fill a high end potty pad during the night to the point that I had to put newspaper down to protect the wood floors.

    She was officially diagnosed at her one year appointment when I took her in to be spayed. I always do pre-spay blood work. For the next year we tweaked her diet including lowering the protein in the diet and every three months I would have her blood work done. Turns out she did best on the diet I had been feeding her all along.

    Jump forward and now at age 7 years 6 months she is still with me, still quite healthy, still unmedicated, still has never had to have sub-q fluids etc. I do give her nutraceuticals and supplements but that is it. The protein amounts, she gets, figured on a dry matter basis range between 45 and 54%.

    Additionally Vet, Dr. Barbara Royal has recently created a raw prescription diet for kd that has 54% protein on dry matter basis.

    And Vet and Nutritionist Dr. Meg Smart says this about canines “I see a benefit in feeding whole foods whether cooked or raw. Genetically the dog and the anatomy of its digestive tract are closely aligned with that of the wolf. So we can use this as a dietary model when designing diets for the domestic dog. – See more at:
    http://www.angryvet.com/angryvet-nutrition-interview-drs-joseph-wakshlag-and-meg-smart/#sthash.j1I7Pmxj.dpuf Dr. Smart taught clinical nutrition for over 30 years.

  • Shawna

    Hi Keith,

    I would have to disagree with that statement.

    “Wolves enjoy a variety of meats. They mostly eat caribou, bison, elk moose, and deer, but they also eat foxes and eggs, and small rodents such as hare, beaver, muskrats, and birds. They may eat some berries, grass, and other vegetable and fruit matter. The grass will purge their digestive system when they eat something that upsets their stomach. Beaver can make up 60% of the wolves’ diet during the summer.” http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0311684/wolfdiet.html

    The diet obviously fluctuates by location so not all wolves will consume all of the above foods if they are not native to the area. But it does demonstrate a wide variety of foods eaten.

  • TIKI

    There is no known cause for Rheumatoid artritis. They know that salt is a major factor. There is speculation among a couple of people that Lectin may trigger it but it is not a proven fact but rather speculation.

  • Shawna

    Maybe this is more what you are looking for. This is taken from Dr. Dodds Nutriscan website.

    “Please remember, NutriScan is novel and patented and is not testing for food allergies, but rather tests for food sensitivities and intolerance.
    These are different body immune responses. Food allergy is a more
    immediate reaction mediated by production of IgE and IgG antibodies.
    Food sensitivity and intolerance, by contrast, measures a more delayed
    body response to offending foods by measuring production of IgA and IgM
    antibodies primarily in mucosal secretions from the bowel.” http://www.nutriscan.org/

    Intolerances absolutely do trigger an immune response, just a different one than does true allergies.

  • Shawna

    Umm, I was simply pointing out that intolerances ARE related to the immune system as evidenced by lectins involvement in rheumatoid arthritis – an immune mediated disease. Or did I misunderstand what you meant by “an intolerance doesn’t involve the immune system”?

  • aimee

    Absolutely! My own dog responded well to a properly done food trial.

  • aimee

    I don’t see anything there that relates to the definition of adverse food reactions as they are defined and diagnosed in the practice of veterinary medicine.

    It does seem to me though that because the mechanism in any particular case is often unknown the more generic term of adverse food reaction is becoming popular.

  • Keith Lawson

    Wolves don’t change foods when they find what works for them, They eat the same thing.

  • Keith Lawson

    Now from the conversation I saw above, Does the Brothers Complete medically cure your pet? No. It was suited better for your pet than what you fed before maybe, because of underlying issues. Did you try Lifes Abundance before Brothers, , because your pet may have had the same results as thousands of other foods. That is the result we all want is whats best for our pets. Right?

  • Shawna

    “Despite the almost universal clinical observation that inflammation of the gut is frequently associated with inflammation of the joints and vice versa, the nature of this relationship remains elusive. In the present review, we provide evidence for how the interaction of dietary lectins with enterocytes and lymphocytes may facilitate the translocation of both dietary and gut-derived pathogenic antigens to
    peripheral tissues, which in turn causes persistent peripheral antigenic stimulation. In genetically susceptible individuals, this antigenic stimulation may ultimately result in the expression of overt rheumatoid arthritis (RA) via molecular mimicry, a process whereby foreign peptides, similar in structure to endogenous peptides, may cause antibodies or T-lymphocytes to cross-react with both foreign and endogenous peptides and thereby break immunological tolerance. By eliminating dietary elements, particularly lectins, which adversely influence both enterocyte and lymphocyte structure and function, it is proposed that the peripheral antigenic stimulus (both pathogenic and dietary) will be reduced and thereby result in a diminution of disease symptoms in certain patients with RA.” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10884708

  • Keith Lawson

    Your right Ms. InkedMarie.

  • losul

    I really appreciate the conclusion to that piece;

    Conclusion

    Omission of food allergy as an important differential is an omission of our oath to “Above all, do no harm!” It is one of the easier immune-mediated diseases to control by means of avoidance. In fact, AFR should always be considered a potential trigger/underlying factor, as alternative lifelong immunomodulatory therapies or surgeries in a dog or cat may pose a significant health risk. What have you got to lose by considering a diet trial for:

    a) Inflammatory Bowel Disease vs lifelong steroids and immunosuppressive agents

    b) Anal gland disease vs surgery and its complications

    c) Asthma vs chronic anti-inflammatory medications

    d) Chronic recurrent otitis externa vs. Total Ear Canal Ablation-Bulla Osteotomy

    e) Idiopathic epilepsy vs lifelong Phenobarbital, potassium bromide or Keppra® (levetiracetam)

    f) Behavioural disorders (ADD, Aggression) vs. lifelong behaviour modifying agents or euthanasia

    g) Immune-mediated disease vs lifelong immunosppressive therapies and repeated bloodwork to monitor for adverse effects

    Again, I ask you, what have you got to lose by performing a dietary trial?

  • aimee

    I’ve always seen adverse food reactions as being subdivided as immunologic -immune system based (cell or humoral) and intolerance – non immune system based: enzyme deficiency, chemical reaction…

    In current classification an intolerance doesn’t involve the immune system.

    ACVD classifies any aberrant reaction after ingestion of food or additive as an Adve
    rse Food Reactions (AFR).
    AFRs have thus been further classified as follows:
    I) Food Hypersensitivities (immunologic adverse reactions)
    a) Food allergies – IgE-mediated reactions or Type I hypersensitivity
    b) Non-IgE mediated hypersensitivity – Type III and/or IV hypersensitivity
    II) Food intolerance – non-immunologic adverse reactions
    a) Food-dependent factors – toxins/poisoning or contaminants
    b)Host-dependent factors – enzyme defici
    encies, drug reactions, idiosyncrasies

    Breed predispositions have been reported so a genetic basis seems plausible

    http://www.ovma.org/pdf/SA_program_dermatology.pdf

  • InkedMarie

    I can’t imagine that any breeder could make that guarantee. They can somewhat guarantee some things but like humans, all dogs are different. I know people who hot dogs with parents/grandparents with OFA good hips & their pups had hip dysplasia. It happens.

  • InkedMarie

    First, no one knows who down votes who. Second, it’s not the breeders fault that there are dogs in shelters. Reputable breeders take back their dogs. Backyard breeders and backyard breeders don’t because they are not reputable.

    I suggest you do some research into why breeders breed; I seriously don’t think you know the reasons.

  • Shawna

    Oats “technically” do not contain gluten but they are often “contaminated” with gluten during harvesting and processing. Additionally, some folks who are gluten intolerant also have issues with the protein (called avenin) in oats. From what I’ve gathered this is not common but does happen – in humans at least.

    My vet is the LAST person I would take advice from on a dog with kidney disease. She gave my puppy one year to live (that was almost seven years ago). She wanted to put her on Science Diet K/D kibble and that would have been the worst thing I could have done for my puppy… :( Vets are not always the best people to ask nutritional advice from… Some are, but most aren’t..

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi Shawna,
    In the description from The advisory it says Life abundance is Gluten free., They didn’t always have the Canola Oil, they just recently added that, I don’t know why, I don’t know about the ratio. If you told me your dog had Kidney disease, I would tell you that you should contact a vet and ask if it were right for them.

  • Shawna

    Hi Keith (I hope you don’t find that too informal? I’m not used to addressing folks with Mr. or Ms. but certainly will if you would prefer).

    I glad that the oats in the food are confirmed to be gluten free.. I have read of so many cases where gluten intolerant folks react to oats that were grown or processed with gluten grains. Bob’s Red Mill is the only certified gluten free oats I am aware of but I’m sure there are others as well..

    If interested, one of the best articles I’ve read on canola is on the Weston Price website. It has valuable info without all the nonsense hype like “mustard gas” etc.. It’s called “The Great Con-ola” http://www.westonaprice.org/know-your-fats/the-great-con-ola Dr. Joseph Mercola discusses it on his site as well..

    As far as the DHA/EPA — I actually prefer it when companies don’t add a source of omega 3 fat as they are quite sensitive and can go bad easily. If LA is truly shipped direct without being stored in a warehouse then that is a definite bonus. But, ALA still does not provide the body of an adult dog with DHA/EPA which are the most important fatty acids for heart, brain and eye health. As long as LA is not already at an ideal ratio of omega 6 to 3 folks can always add sardines or fish oils for the DHA/EPA. If LA is balanced then they’d need to add both 6 and 3 so as not to create an imbalance. Too much omega 3, in the wrong ratio to omega 6, is as problematic as not enough.

    As far as the excitotoxins, almost every kibbled food on the market has one form of excitotoxin or another. LA is not alone in this by any means.

    My Pomeranian gets colitis from chicken so she would not be a good candidate for LA. Plus I prefer foods with more protein and no grains BUT, LA is not a “bad” food by any means.. Just not right for all.. PS, I also have a dog that was born with kidney disease — I don’t and wouldn’t feed her any kibble even if it was given to me free of charge. She eats high protein raw and has for seven and a half years now.

  • Keith Lawson

    Julie, my interest is in for the good of the breed. I am not sure if there is any test to determine if pups will have allergies. As for being out bucks for testing, PRA alone in a DNA test is $195.00not including the vets part for getting the sample. Hips Eyes, Elbows, Pra, EIC, CNM are the general tests done for labs by “good Breeders” If there is another problem, I would think that the vet would point it out that’s there is a problem. If the breeder knew he or she ‘s dog had a known allergy, It would then be ethical for them to tell each and every puppy owner. And knowing the formula in Lifes Abundance has chicken, and eggs, The breeder should not be able to use the food either.

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi Ms. Shawna, Thanks for pointing out potential problems. I will certainly address this with my vet, and the food company. It may turn out that I need to switch, but I have never had a problem one with the food, and have been happy how my dogs look, and my vet and customer family members have always given raving reviews. I thought the advisory was an unbiased, good source, for finding good quality food. and the person who formulated it is a holistic vet, and pet nutritionist expert.

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi Ms. Julie, The reason I give that kind of guarantee, is that I am comfortable with my breed. I go back 5 generations looking for medical issues, carriers or affected dogs, With the genetic diseases. With that out of the way, The only thing left to go wrong, is what you feed and give as treats. Ms. Julie my intentions with that guarantee, were never about keeping our pups on Lifes abundance for life. We have changed foods several times. We found this food from reading in the dog food advisory reports. When we found this food, with no adverse ingredients, with no Corn, no glutens including from the oates , no soy, no preservatives, the only thing from keeping it from being a 5 star I was lead to believe was Dried beets. The set up of being able to see who was actually buying a good food, in my opinion Lifes Abundance, There is no way of knowing who was feeding a food that was causing problems. Its not a requirement, its an option. If there is problems with this food, I want to know about it.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    No apology necessary. My comment wasn’t specifically directed toward you. It was designed to end the escalating argument over this controversial off-topic issue only.

    Thanks for your understanding.

  • Keith Lawson

    I am sorry Mr. Mike I was not trying to sell dogs, I don’t have any for sale at this time. I have a website for that. lol What I meant was this is how I know about the LA foods.After all, It is an ongoing research for us and others to find the best foods we can for our breed. Again my apologies.

  • Shawna

    Hi Ross,

    I agree with your remarks on allergies (an IgE immune response) as being uncommon. However intolerances (an IgA or other immune response) are really quite common. Foods that are common causes of intolerances are gluten grains, potato, chicken, soy and some others. These foods have a specific kind of protein called a lectin and lectins have a genetic factor.

    An intolerance to a lectin can actually cause gut permeability (aka leaky gut) which then can allow undigested proteins into the bloodstream. If the immune system is over stimulated by vaccinations, toxins from heartworm/flea tick meds, food intolerances, environmental toxins etc it can over react to the protein and an allergy is created.

    These same lectins can cause pretty serious diseases including autoimmune diseases and other serious illnesses. “Gluten ataxia”, in humans, is an illness that manifests as white matter brain lesions (aka brain damage), stroke like symptoms and temporary blindness — all caused from consuming foods like wheat and barley.

  • Shawna

    Keith isn’t very wise for doing that as this food has “oat groats” which can be contaminated with gluten which is a common allergen/intolerance. The food also has canola oil which is a “highly processed” partially hydrogenated oil and can cause health issues. The food also doesn’t have a source of the fatty acids DHA/EPA (only ALA from flax and canola). ALA can not easily be converted to DHA/EPA by the adult dog and can lead to heart, brain and eye issues.

    I’m glad you change your dogs food regularly. When doing so do you also make sure to change the protein and carb source in the food? Lots of dogs have issues with chicken, potato and gluten grains like wheat and barley (and the contaminated oat).

    I foster and I can assure you that shelter and rescue dogs have just as many issues as those from breeders. However, I do think (and this is just my opinion) that “line” breeding (aka inbreeding) creates potential health risks.

    Edit — the food also has brewers dried yeast and natural flavors. These two ingredients are known sources of free glutamic acid – an excitotoxin. Excitotoxins, if fed regularly or in excess, can cause symptoms such as brain damage, heart disease, aggression etc. The only saving grace for Keith is that it would be hard to confirm beyond a shadow of doubt that health issues such as these were caused by the food or something else like vaccinosis etc..

  • Ross C.

    Shawna, this is not true at all. Allergies are due to a faulty immune system. That is why you see allergies in some breeds at very high levels and in others no allergies. Also, the amount of dogs with allergeries is very very small in the general population, perhaps as low as .5% of all dogs, so 1 out of 200 dogs and 80% of these dogs are allergic to chicken, beef, eggs and dairy.

  • Julie

    This lab breeder Keith Lawson gives a “complete health guarantee” if the puppy buyer keeps it on Life’s Abundance. He’s promoting keeping the dog on one food for life!
    I paid $1800 for my dog and have always switched dog foods like crazy from day one trying to figure out what’s causing her ear infections. By the way, my sister has two mutts from the pound and has only fed them Pedigree. Of course, her dogs never have any problems and she thinks I’m crazy for the way I change my dog’s food.

  • Shawna

    If you are getting puppies from “adds” you are part of the problem not the solution..

    A “responsible” pet owner, if buying from a breeder, will research the breeder before buying a puppy from them.. They will visit the home and see where the puppies are raised (in the house or in a kennel?). They will meet the parents. They will sign a contract discussing health guarantees, breeding rights or spay/neuter clauses, mandatory returns if the puppy doesn’t work out etc.. And they will take the puppy to their vet for a health check up soon after buying.

    Additionally, the responsible breeder will interview you and determine if you are suitable for their breed. Example — a reputable Jack Russell Terrier breeder won’t sell to a novice pet owner, without clauses such as puppy training classes etc, as that would likely be a pairing doomed to fail. I know some reputable breeders that won’t sell their puppies to folks who won’t feed the puppy a raw diet as an example..

    For the record, I’m in rescue and I foster. I currently have eight dogs in my home — seven of which are from the Humane Society or rescue.

  • Shawna

    Allergies and intolerances are generally caused by eating inappropriate foods or the practice of feeding only one food for life, not poor breeding.

    Although intolerances have a genetic factor, it is what the ancestors ate, not the parents, that has the greatest impact on what foods will cause the intolerance.

  • Julie

    When are these “great” breeders going to have a guarantee that the puppies they sell won’t have food intolerances or allergies. Even the commenter/breeder Keith Lawson said it’s a “health issue”. I’ve gone through big bucks and my dog has gone through agony while I’m trying to get to the bottom of her intolerances. By the way, my dog’s breeder is just “stumped” about the issue, while she keeps on breeding dogs.

  • Shawna

    I’m in rescue and I foster. A pet store is NEVER going to carry dogs bred by a “reputable” breeder – NEVER. A reputable breeder would never sell to a pet store in the first place. If you buy from a pet store you are adding to the problem…

    The other one that tricks people is newspaper adds. Invariably the “breeder” can’t meet you at their home so offers to meet you for an introduction with the puppy at a location more convenient for you… If you can’t meet the parents AND see where the puppy was raised — DON’T BUY IT… Don’t even set up the appt to meet the puppy as once met you will be more inclined to buy. If we don’t buy from puppy mills they can’t stay in business. If they go out of business rescues will go to the auctions and purchase as many of the dogs as they are able to — which means donate your money to more rescues that can verify they purchase pups from auctions of breeders that are closing business.

    I also read material that dogs are being brought in from overseas (LOTS of dogs).. If we are smarter about where we get dogs from — shelters, rescues or truly reputable breeder, the rest will have nowhere to sell and will stop..

  • InkedMarie

    I said reputable and no, I did not say all breeders were reputable.

    Funny, I’ve never seen an ad from any breeder I’ve ever contacted. Ever. That must say something.

    My breeders are honest, caring, loving and ethical.

  • InkedMarie

    That is when dog owners should start being responsible so dogs don’t end up in shelters. I have gotten dogs from reputable breeders, one backyard breeder (in the 80;s, my first dog ever, before I knew what a byb’er was), shelters and rescues.

    If I feel the need to get a purebred puppy, I have the right to buy from a reputable breeder.

  • InkedMarie

    I did not think my response was rude.

  • InkedMarie

    Thats why it’s wonderful to have the internet, you can have any food you want shipped right to your door!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Promoting the sale of dogs in any way on this blog is clearly a violation of our rules and has nothing whatsoever to do with the theme of this website.

    This thread is here for the purpose of allowing members and visitors to discuss Life’s Abundance Dog Food.

    It is not a place to debate the sensitive and sometimes passionate issues surrounding the ethics of commercial dog breeding.

    Please take this discussion to a more appropriate website. Thank you.

  • Betsy Greer

    You don’t seem to understand the difference between a backyard breeder and a breeder.

    To infer that I am not sympathetic is laughable. I have a rescue as well as a breeder dog. Both are my right. I donate time, money and materials to several non-non-profit animal relief organizations. What do you do to support the cause of animal welfare?

    My down vote of your post is the result of your subversive agenda here to judge others freedoms and your obvious lack of understanding and respect for of the concept of responsible breeders, while in violation of this site’s rules to post under only one screen name.

  • please adopt

    You and I may be free to do what we like but shelter dogs aren’t free to do anything but stay locked in a cage until they are adopted or killed.

  • Tracy Gardener

    It is very irresponsible to breed millions of dogs every year who end up getting killed in shelters because they are not getting adopted. Germany they do not kill dogs likeere because alot of people are sympathetic. I do not understand how you could downvote my post. Good luck Betsy. I am good.

  • Betsy Greer

    Don’t you think you would have the ultimate responsibility to do your due diligence to determine if any shelter, rescue or breeder is ethical and responsible prior to adopting?

  • Betsy Greer

    That says nothing whatsoever about responsible breeders.

  • Tracy Gardener

    Good point. I remember this petstore in Malibu who told everyone that their puppies came from reputable breeders and they even had pictures. It turned our they were fake and the puppies were from puppy mills.

  • Lady in Red

    All of us shelter dogs say THANK YOU!

  • Tracy Gardener

    The best dog is a shelter dog!

  • candycane

    Wish I could down vote your comment. You are too rude.

  • http://www.petfinder.com/ zj

    WOW. They all claim to be reputable, right? Did you ever see an ad from a breeder who said they were not honest and caring and loving and ethical and.

  • dennis

    Why the overreaction Marie? pitlady didn’t deserve such a rude response!

  • Keith Lawson

    Thanks Ms. Betsy, If can think of the breeders name let me know, I may know them.

  • Betsy Greer

    That’s about the same drive for me. I did find a local breeder who is a distributor, but he didn’t respond to my email. You can get it on Amazon.com, but if you could get it locally, it would be cheaper.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Sorry, mine was an innocent question, and you just now really rubbed me the wrong way, insulted me, in fact. You are implying that I’m going to lie, no actually, I guess that wasn’t an implication at all.
    I don’t work for anyone. Dr Mike asks, in his commenting policy, that if you represent a dog food company, you identify yourself as such. People here have a right to know that your glowing praise is because you hope to sell something.
    You got my hopes up. I have a dog with multiple food intolerances, as many here have, and “made to order” sounds wonderful. Alas, it isn’t so.

  • Keith Lawson

    I can’t find any recalls on this site, but I would have to drive 104 miles round trip to get it. I was unable to find any internet retailers or wholesalers for the product.

  • InkedMarie

    That is true but this is a free country, we’re able to get dogs from reputable breeders, rescues, shelters etc.

    Puppy mills & backyard breeders are something completely different.

  • Keith Lawson

    No, The ingredients look great. I would love to find out more about it. why doesn’t the AAFCO not recognize it as an essential nutrient?

  • LabsRawesome

    Victor is a 5 star food. Have you ever compared Life’s Abundance w/ Victor? http://www.midamericapetfood.com/victordogfood/pdf/Brochure-GF-Ultra%20Pro.pdf

  • Keith Lawson

    Ms. Linked Marie, I agree I have talked to vets in our area who wouldn’t consider selling LA food, because there was not enough mark up for them. It was not about the health of the pets.

  • Keith Lawson

    lol , Well thank you for pointing it out for me. Ms. Patty you are right. “Made when you order” is the correct statement I meant to make.I know I have all kinds of typing and spelling errors. I was talking with Ms. InkedMarie, She asked me a question about what kind of vet Ms. Bicks was, I told her it came from the internet, and I showed her instead of trying to cite something. I looked it up on the internet and copied and pasted. I became a field rep for Lifes Abundance after using it, and because I was so impressed with the products. Where do you work ma’am, and what pet food company are you affiliated with? Will you be honest? I do make a small amount for introducing customer’s to the product, very small amount. But I only agreed to being a rep because of the high quality of the product, and I know my pets are healthy because of it. It is the best dog food we have ever used and I am constantly reminded of the excellent quality every time I compare a new dog food against it, or research a new recall on other brands.

  • Keith Lawson

    How much are yours?

  • InkedMarie

    Hi Keith,
    I know who she is. My comment was regarding a comment you made up there, asking if our dog food company was formulated by a vet. IMO, being a vet doesn’t mean you know about nutrition.

  • Keith Lawson

    That’s true, I send people to the humane society, and find homes for pets who just haven’t found their forever homes. Our dogs aren’t for everyone, and every pet deserves a loving home.

  • Pattyvaughn

    “Dr. Jane is responsible for Life’s Abundance product formulation and development, and she consults regularly with pet industry experts to ensure our cutting-edge formulas meet the highest standards for quality and effectiveness.”

    Are these your words or did you pull them from something but not cite it? I ask because here you call it “our cutting-edge formula,” but I have completely missed where you have actually posted your connection to this food, other than that you are a consumer.

    BTW, “made to order” implies custom formulas, not made when you order.

  • losul

    “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”

    Carl Sagan

  • InkedMarie

    Ok thanks. I didn’t know if you were one of the people who think vets know all about nutrition. I still can’t use LA for one of mine.

  • pitlady

    People can also go to petfinder.com and save a dog’s life by adopting them. They have any breed you want. Young, old, male, female…

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi InkedMarie, I looked her up on the internet for you. She is a real person. lol

    First and foremost, Dr Jane Bicks is the ultimate pet person. She shares her life with a dog, a goat, two horses, a monkey,and two cats. Her pets are her family and she is dedicated to their health and happiness. Dr. Jane knows you feel the same way about your pets and she has devoted her life to the health and wellness of our precious companions.

    Dr. Jane is a highly respected and nationally recognized holistic veterinarian. She is the author of three national books on pet care and nutrition and has served on professional boards including the Cornell Feline Health Center. Dr. Jane served as the President of the Veterinary Medical Association in NYC and was appointed by former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani to help start one of the largest animal shelters in the United States. She has also appeared on many network television and cable programs and numerous radio stations as a veterinary expert.

    Dr. Jane is responsible for Life’s Abundance product formulation and development, and she consults regularly with pet industry experts to ensure our cutting-edge formulas meet the highest standards for quality and effectiveness.

    Dr. Bicks utilizes the best of modern science and Mother Nature to formulate all HealthyPetNet/Life’s Abundance products and they are among the finest holistic foods, supplements, and treats in the world for dogs, cats, and horses. Quality and integrity are the utmost importance to her. You won’t find her compromising ingredients she chooses in her formulations that can be harmful to our pets. The Life’s Abundance product line is completely safe and has never been affected by the any pet food recall.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Maybe they don’t understand that made when you order is not the same thing as made to order.

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi , I have a litter to be born mid March. Ours are $850.00. a pup, I already have 8 deposits right now. I am not sure your name, but you more than welcome to come see them also.

  • Keith Lawson

    They don’t yet as far as I know. I am sorry for your dogs health issue. No I would not recommend it to you. Maybe someday they will.

  • Keith Lawson

    Yes, Dr. Bicks studied in holistic foods. She has presidential awards for her work in the field, and had the largest pet rescue in New York at one time.

  • LabsRawesome

    Good one, Betsy. Probably more like 2 grand. :)

  • LabsRawesome

    Thanks for the info.

  • InkedMarie

    Also, I’m not familiar with Dr Bicks: is she a veterinary nutritionist? That’s the only kind of vet I want formulating dog food. Being a vet doesn’t mean you know animal nutrition.

  • InkedMarie

    I have a dog who cannot have chicken or grains; unless LA has changed, they don’t make a chicken or grainfree.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Made to order is a life saver for dogs with multiple food intolerances.

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi Pam, You don’t have to buy food made to order, that’s how I prefer it. I was not trying to sell you food, like I said the advertising money is not that much as you think. I was only stating my opinion on why I like it.
    This is why I like it made to order. How do you know how long your food sat in a warehouse before going to a retailer. You said you check your dates, but you didn’t say what brand you use. Not all have expiration dates, While in a retailer or warehouse was your food in the bag treated with insecticides, or pesticides. LA food is not. That actually happened in a major name pet store where the foods move fast.
    What if the food you use had something go wrong, and it an ingredient was tainted and killed someones pet. One death is unacceptable in my opinion. Most of the brands were trusted name brand foods this actually happed to. I am told the cleanliness of where they make the food is second to none, All ingredients are tested, and inspected for problems before it is put into the food making process.
    I do trust my food, but if one of my dogs died because of careless handling inspections, or some other reason, It would be more than I could bare. My dogs are just family members to me.
    The way it works to make sure you don’t run out of food, is to set up a calendar with the company to automatically order the food when you are up to two weeks before you run out. Auto ship it. You get a discount for auto shipping. You don’t have to, you can monitor the amount yourself. I also can contact a rep and get a bag from them, until some comes in if needed.
    I researched them, they did not research me. Now if you are happy with your food keep using it. I am not trying to sell you anything. I truly love the food and the quality of life of our dogs and cats. I also care about the quality of life of the pets who own the people who I refer it to. I think its how they came up with the name of Lifes abundance. It is definitely one less thing I have to worry with. Thanks Pam for the questions, and I don’t know everything about it, but I am passionate about my pets and how they are to live out the rest of their lives while I am alive. It shows me you are caring too.

  • Keith Lawson

    Thanks Betsy, You are welcome to come see them anytime. all of their pedigree information is listed on our web page as well.
    As for the food questions, all breeders get some kind of benefit from recommending certain foods. I do it because I know my bloodlines are free of genetic disease or I wouldn’t use the dog as a breeder. I would not use a carrier of a disease., where most breeders will and breed with an unaffected dog. I don’t want to even I recommend a certain food because I know with my bloodlines, that if the pups are on a good food, and I consider LA to be a good food. there will be no health issues.
    If I can’t give a health guarantee, I would not be breeding. All dog food companies offer a discount to breeders to use their foods. All drug companies offer kick backs to write scripts for their drugs. All vets recommend Hills food because of kick backs and discounts. All retailers get
    Since we started using LA, I have noticed everyone of the dog food companies seem to be raising the bar. That’s a good thing. Wanna know what dog food started as, Biscuits from eating establishments. All dog foods are all over priced, they all have things people like, and things people don’t like, It is above average food, and the kick back is not as much as one would think. I feed 7 full size dogs, some are retired, and they all love it. Its all about what you are happy with.
    Have you ever seen a commercial for LA Food, no, they only advertise thru word of mouth, and by what others think about the products. Its like any business buying products for wholesale and selling at retail. They donate a ton of money to rescues, and humane societies. They have a wonderful rating with the better business bureaus. They offer a 100 percent money back guarantee.
    Its made to order, not setting on a shelf. There has never been a recall, and Heavens forbid if they did have an issue, because the way they sell it, they know where every bag was sold. They have a program set up to call every person that got any bad product. I request a list of every recall that comes out. How does your pet food company notify you? They don’t. The good people at pet food advisory puts out a notice. Is your dog food company formulated by a vet? LA is.

  • Pam c

    I don’t see why you have to buy food that’s made to order. IMO if you trust the company and stay up to date on recalls in conjunction with watching your dog’s behavior, it shouldn’t make a difference. I buy food from places that move the food quickly and I always check the expiration dates. I would hate to limit myself to one food just because it’s made when it’s ordered. What happens if you can’t get your hands on the food? What is your backup plan?

  • Betsy Greer

    Males are $65.00?! I’ll take one!

    Just kidding, Keith. : )

    I had actually already looked and saw that British labs are smaller than American labs and knew what you meant. I also read that in addition to being a bit smaller, they’re also a bit more calm. Very nice…

  • Keith Lawson

    Yes, and No, English have a double coat, and what we raise is a single coat. They are from the St. Johns bloodline, the original labs. Its a field line rather than the showline. Our females only get about 45 LB.s and the males about $65.00. You can over feed and get them bigger, but we don’t. I had not heard of them before about 10 years ago. I raised American labs for 20 some od years prior to that.

  • LabsRawesome

    Do you mean English Labs? I’ve never heard of British Labs,

  • Keith Lawson

    Hi, I am a breeder of British Labs, although I don’t know either of you, or what her medical issue was solved. Like every food, their has to be good with bad. I would not recommend LA If a dog had a kidney issue without speaking to their vet. It is not a medicine, but I have seen it used when dogs with allergies become free from their issue after using Life abundance. I use it because It is a very healthy food. Its formulated by a vet Dr. Jane Bicks. They have never had a recall. Its made to order and doesn’t sit in a warehouse or on some shelf in a store. They have very strict inspections with every batch made. My. Dogs love it, They are vey healthy on it. I not only give a health guaranty of hereditary problems, by if they use Lifes Abundance products including the healthy treats, I give a complete health guarantee, because I know they will be healthy. Lifes Abundance doesn’t give me that guarantee, But I am that confident in it. So confident, I don’t mind using my real name. feel free to friend me on facebook, and see my dogs.

  • Keith Lawson

    Taste of the wild biggest issue is that it has had recalls, Lifes abundance has never had a recall. Buying locally from your feed store seems better? Who will contact you if there is a problem later found? recall No one. Lifes abundance knows where every bag goes, and has a system in place to be able to notify its customers personally. Lifes abundance is not mass produced leading to food getting old setting on a shelf. Its made to order.

  • Amelia

    We fed Life Abundance for two years with no issues and dogs maintained healthy weights (bullmastiffs). Have switched to a brand we can buy locally and feel is comparable (taste of the wild).

  • InkedMarie

    I have a dog with an intolerance to chicken as well. There are a few foods that I can’t feed any of because chicken is part of the food, even if it’s “not” a chicken food but say turkey or duck. Maybe someday LA will make something else.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

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  • Pattyvaughn

    The biggest issue I have with higher carb diets is that they feed the candida and in these intolerance situations, candida overgrowth is very common. I agree about experiences with vets when diet is the root of the problem, they treat the symptoms and it is a rare vet indeed that tries to find the root of the problem.
    But I disagree about the possibility of overloading on protein. Dogs are designed to handle a high protein diet regardless of activity level. In fact, I would say it is the highly active dogs that may require carbs to replenish glycogen stores that are depleted from long term heavy work, and I’m talking sled dogs and herding dogs that work for a stretch of time. Ordinary dogs can have their energy needs met by converting fat to glycogen. Carbs are just cheaper.
    I also believe that no dog food is perfect, all are too high or too low in some things. So I would never feed any one food long term. Also feeding the same food day in and day out will have an affect on the probiotics that can be supported in the gut, limiting the number of different strains that can thrive, leading to an unhealthy gut. So my dogs eat a variety of foods, just like I do.
    I’m glad you found a food that works for your dog, but I sincerely hope that you will think about the effects of eating the exact same food day in and day out for so long and will consider trying to find other foods you can use to vary your pups diet. Good luck.

  • Kitty Sweet

    I have heard mention of a few other dogs that seem to have intolerance to chicken as well. If chicken is the true allergen, Life’s Abundance is not a suitable food for these dogs, since it is formulated with chicken. Life’s Abundance formulator will be the first to say so.

    Regarding the carbs, I trust scientific studies from a holistic view, as to the percentage of carbs, to protein, to fat, etc. There is no way everyone is going to be fully aligned in agreement with this one topic. However, there is room for discussion without hostility, as there is still much to be scientifically discovered about pet formulations. Isn’t this what this board is for?

    Protein percentage is a very controversial topic. While many people compare todays domesticated dogs to wolves in the wild, I believe this is a mistake, (this is simply my belief, not an attack toward you) as domesticated dogs eat meals at regularly scheduled intervals. Dogs in the wild, gain high protein content periodically. This meal has to be high in protein, as it has to last them until their next kill, which could be days or even weeks. They also need this high protein to survive the harsh outdoor elements. Indoor domesticated dogs do not face these same obstacles. We have changed these needs, as we have domesticated our pets. What happens when our domesticated dogs have an overload of animal based protein?

    Perhaps you have an extremely active dog that requires a much higher protein content than most. While I would not choose to offer a higher protein for mine, I am glad that we each have available options and care enough to apply them toward better health for our companions.

    The intolerance your dog evidenced toward a particular food (resulting in many similar ailments as my long ago rescue did) compared to another food you gave, is confirmation that many ailments, creating veterinary visits and unnecessary medications, are simply due to improper nutrition. Sadly, the vet we had at the time was treating her symptoms, not the cause. We made a choice to discover more than what the vet offered.

    Being that we have visiting therapy dogs, we follow the rules and guidelines of Pet Partners (formerly Delta Society). Due to pathogen risk, raw animal protein diets are not acceptable for visiting dogs.

    Since pets that are fed raw animal food diets shed a significantly higher amount of pathogenic bacteria, the risk is too high to allow dogs on these diets serve as therapy dogs.

    For varied reasons, you have found what seems to work best for your dog, and I have found what works best for us. That is what matters most.

    I am glad that you have found and are happy with what works for you. I respect that. I honestly do. I welcome the same.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Good grains or not, my dog is intolerant of them and the chicken too, so this food is a no go for me, but I do think for some other dogs it is an ok food. I also feed higher protein and lower carbs, but this is a pretty solid 4 star food.

    Of course they have a reason for what grains they put in there. They have a reason for every single ingredient. That doesn’t mean I agree with their reason. I happen to think all grains and most other carbs are an inferior way to feed dogs. Then there is canola oil.

    Great grain free foods do not have a comparable amount of carbs, but obviously other 4 star foods would after all, that’s part of why they are 4 star, apples to apples.

    BTW, my dog that has intolerance issues that were leading to IBS, acid reflux, extreme hair loss, itching, body odor, diarrhea, sores, ear and eye discharge, candida overgrowth, etc., cleared up in 2 1/2 months on Brothers Complete and raw food.

  • Zyekitty

    Then why did you provide a link to a website that sells the food? I assume you are kitty4health..the email address mentioned on the first link you provided…so do you get a commission for any product you sell via that site?

  • Kitty Sweet

    Hi Patty, That is true about food allergy and intolerance. Many foods use ingredients that cause such intolerance. I believe that Mai Ling’s original ailments were due to massive overload of such diets, along with extreme neglect.

    Each time we introduced a new food for her, we gave it a 4 week trial period. When her ailments remained, we moved on to another brand.

    After using Life’s Abundance food, within the 30 day period, her ear infections diminished. Her bald spots also began to fill in with soft hair. While it is very possible that another food may have given the same results, this is the one that worked for her and we are very happy to have seen her finally come to life.

    It did take 4 months for her gums to clear up and breath to no longer be offensive. I honestly believe that all her outward ailments were a sign that internally she was not well either. Once she began looking better, she also began showing confidence.

    Because of this journey with Mai Ling, we are Life’s Abundance representatives.

    There are good grains, and there are inferior grains. Some grains are incompatible to a canine system. There are good reason for the grains selected by Dr. Jane in Life’s Abundance.

    Grains and vegetables are both carbs. When looking at the carb %, you will notice “grain Free” labels contain a comparable carbohydrate percentage.

  • Kitty Sweet

    Other than accidents, many vet visits are due to conditions directly related to nutrition. While food never cures medical conditions, proper nutrition won’t allow disease to grow.

  • Pattyvaughn

    So then, it was food intolerance issues and any food without the ingredients she is intolerant of would work as well, no miracle there.

  • Kitty Sweet

    Hello Betsy, While I never claimed a cure for anything, I will say that after trying many different brands of foods, and medications from the veterinarian, Mai Ling’s issues never cleared up long term. Within days of antibiotics ending, her ear infections would return. From the day we got her, she smelled very bad. Not only her ears, her breath was horrible. Her gums were swollen and very deep in color, almost purple. Her hair was dull, brittle like straw and clumps fallen out. She had many bald spots on her body with bare skin exposed.

    With antibiotics, the ear infections did clear up, yet returned soon after each round. None of the other conditions cleared up until changing her diet for the last time. If we had found another food that had offered the same results, we would be talking about that one. Quite possibly another brand may have given similar results, however, this is the one we found that has worked for us.

    When you look at many ailments that dogs visit the vet for, yes, many are nutritionally related.

  • losul

    So I guess then you won’t mind sharing what specific illnesses your dog had, and what specific prescriptions this food negated the need for?

  • Kitty Sweet

    Greetings Mike Sagman, I fed Life’s Abundance products to my dogs for 2 years before becoming a representative for the company. I did state so in my initial comment.

    Recommending this product long before becoming a representative, it is because of what I personally witnessed that I became a field representative.

    My real name is Kitty Sweet.

  • Storm’s Mom

    This product is a multi-level marketing (MLM) proposition. To say “this is nothing about marketing strategy” is completely false. It’s ALL about marketing strategy.

  • Kitty Sweet

    Hi Melissaandcrew, I agree with you regarding nutrition, and vet visits over nutritionally related issues. It’s always enlightening to hear of others success in health. I loved reading what you wrote, as the goal for each of us is to offer the best for our companions. I am glad you have found what is best for you and yours. Mai Ling was a rescue that came to us at 8 months of age. She had several issues that were stubbornly returning soon after her prescriptions ended We tried many different brands of food over the course of 2 years, including what her then veterinarian recommended. It was not until we found Life’s Abundance, that her issues began to clear up. It was because of her that we continued to search, and also because of her that we transitioned the others to the same.

  • Kitty Sweet

    Storm’s Mom, If one has an example that has brought vibrant health to a very ill pup, why would you suggest to keep it a secret? This is nothing about marketing strategy, simply sharing of fact. I was sharing these health improvements/results with others throughout my neighborhood and family, as her health issues were clearing up, long before I became a representative with Life’s Abundance. It is because of what I experienced first hand, that I became a representative for these products. This is also why some of my neighbors who have have seen the transition from who she was, to who she is, are also feeding the same, with their own successful results. It would be disheartening to feel a need to lessen the truth, just to appease a skeptic

  • Storm’s Mom

    Very interesting marketing strategy how these “testimonials” keep popping up here on DFA. ..specifically BECAUSE of posts like yours, I will never use or recommend this product. Such a turn-off from an otherwise decent looking product.

  • Melissaandcrew

    Hi Kitty….in all my adult years I have never had to take a dog to the vet for “nutrionally related” issues..and I have never fed the above food. I have however, always been vigilant to offer quality products that worked for them.

  • Pattyvaughn

    If the medical condition is a food allergy or intolerance, it might, but so would several hundred other foods. There is nothing special about this food other than the specifics she mentioned in her commercial, if even those. It does have grains in it and canola is commonly GMO after all.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Do you have a vested interest in this product? If so, you are required to advise our community of this fact and to use your real name.

  • Zyekitty

    “It was also a no brainer to become field representatives and share such great success with others.” sounds like she might be trying to get some advertising in. Life’s Abundance looks life a fairly good food,but I doubt it cures medical conditions.

  • Betsy Greer

    So you’re claiming that this food cures medical conditions? What medical conditions was your dog diagnosed with?

  • Kitty Sweet

    We began feeding Life’s Abundance food to our very ill little rescue 9 years ago. After 2 years of searching, finally finding Life’s Abundance food is what turned her world around. No more meds. No more searching in the dark. With Life’s Abundance and access to Dr. Jane Bicks, DVM and her professional expertise, Mai Ling shed every single ailment week by week, even after dropping all the prescriptions. It didn’t take us long to justify using ALL Life’s Abundance health products, for all our companion animals. It was also a no brainer to become field representatives and share such great success with others. For the last nine years, we have never had to make another nutritionally related veterinarian visit. The facts that Dr. Jane is simply a free phone call away, and there’s never been a recall involvement in Life’s Abundance history of business speaks volumes. If assurance of a GMO free, well balanced diet is a priority for you to offer your dog and cat, and you want to personally witness vibrant health, Life’s Abundance is the brand to choose. http://www.NatureWithScience.com home of http://www.FedWellPets.com

  • NHevergreen

    We brought our puppy (who resembles a wolf in appearance) home in July, and she loves the LA dog food suggested by the breeder. At 6 months old she is clear-eyed, happy, healthy and full of energy. I make treats for her from ground sirloin and ground puppy food. She wolfs them down – no pun intended. Having raised dogs for 50 years, I don’t over-analyze the food but make sure I’m feeding her a high quality balanced diet and providing plenty of exercise. Kind of like I raised my children. They’re all thriving.

  • sarah

    I don’t think its bad to mix the food but you can donate to food to pet rescue organizations rather than throw it out. that way its not a complete waste and someone benefits:)

  • catahoula

    Gene, You might consider donating it to a dog shelter that way your puppy gets what she likes and the other goes for a very good cause. Good luck with your fur baby.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Using up the others as a portion of her food is fine. The only issue is how long it will take you to use them. Food that has been open for too long starts to go bad, the fats oxidize. So it is a good idea to put what you won’t use quickly into plastic bags and freeze it until you are ready to use it. Let it come up to room temp before unsealing the bag or you will get condensation on the food and that will allow mold to start growing.

  • Gene

    Another data point here. We feed our puppy LIfe’s Abundance Premium Health Food For Puppies & Adults. She’s very healthy and active. The vet concurs. Our vet recommended three other brands which we tried. Our dog had a strong preference for LA, which she gobbles down hungrily. She just picks at the others. Interestingly, and perhaps related, this site rated LA higher than any of the alternatives the vet provided. So now I have two bags premium dog food she won’t eat. I found if the I mix the others with LA she will eat it. Is this a good idea or should I just toss the others out? The other brands were recommended here but scored lower than LA.

  • catahoula

    You are feeding a 3 star food which is middle of the road where LA is a 4 star. My breeder suggested against puppy food because the only dogs that she has had with hip dysplasia (sp) were the ones she fed puppy food.
    Your puppy was not well and probably no matter what you would have fed it before it was treated and got well, would have not agreed with him. Great that he is getting better on the lesser quality food.

  • Catahoula

    Craftharlot,
    Sorry you had issues with your puppy’s diet. I just have to say that I fed my dog LA for 11 years and she did beautifully. Rarely, I mean rarely had gas and her poop was always solid so it was very easy to pick up. She weighed about 55 lbs and ate 1 1/2 cups of LA a day and she was very healthy until her last 8 months. Dr. Bicks said it is good to supplement with very healthy veggies–you might ask her what would be good for your puppy.
    Your puppy was probably having tummy ache which was the reaction from the inflamed bowel and had nothing to do with the food. I think we would all be whiny with that going on.
    When I got a new puppy in December, she came home with yuck stuff that was going on at the breeder’s. It seems to be rather common for the puppies to get stuff at the kennel. The breeder was giving them pumpkin in their dry food and that helped a bit but when I took her to the vet the day after I got her, they found she had round worms and had to be treated for that.
    Good luck with your fur baby.

  • LabsRawesome

    That is not true, do some research, because you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  • Shawna

    That was scientifically disproved years ago. However they have proven that a protein in grains, potatoes and some other foods can cause or worsen arthritis as well as other illnesses.

  • aimee

    Hi AussieGirl2013

    Dr. Remillard is a board certified veterinary nutritionist. This is what she has to say regarding protein and joint/bone problems. “The protein content has nothing to do with
    expression of orthopedic developmental disease. Protein content is not
    an issue and this has been clearly demonstrated in the scientific
    literature.”

    You can find lots of accurate nutritional information at her site petdiets dot com

  • LabsRawesome

    LMAO.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Oh brother!!

  • AussieGirl2013

    High protein can actually cause joint problems, they can cause their legs to bow, and it can make their knees knuckle over.

  • Donna

    I just started using Lifes Abundance dog food, for my 3 dogs, so far they really like it, I am still switching them over, I am doing it very slow. I will see how they do once they are on it fully.

  • Pattyvaughn

    No, actually my argument is that if it is ok for puppies, it is ok for adults, not the other way around. There is a difference. I give my dogs optimal nutrition, not minimal nutrition.
    Intermittent/supplemental feeding is how something is labeled when it doesn’t meet a profile, it is not a different profile. AAFCO profiles are minimum requirements to sustain life, not the best way to make dog food. Royal Canin settled for lesser ingredients, but charges as if they are giving you the best. They aren’t.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Growth and reproduction are one nutrient profile and adult maintenance is the other. These are the only two recognized by AAFCO. A food can still say it is for “all life stages” or “intermittent or supplemental” on it’s label but it is more of a descriptor instead of the actual nutrient profile. For instance, “intermittent” just means the food didn’t meet either one of the recognized nutrient profiles.

    http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/resourcesforyou/ucm047120.htm

  • Craftharlot

    According to their website, there are more profiles than just ‘growth’ or ‘maintenance’. There’s a combination profile, an intermittent/supplemental and also for reproduction. It would make sense that if the food is acceptable for both puppies and adults, that it would be labeled that way, since it would appeal to a broader market base. Although the nutrients that are required for both puppies and adults are the same, obviously the levels are different, or there wouldn’t be a difference in the labeling requirements.
    Your argument is that if it’s okay for adults, it’s okay for puppies, but that’s just not true. Even the guidelines for puppy nutrition from the AAFCO are different, and the recommendation from the AKC states specifically to feed puppy food. Yet, you are stating that it’s okay to feed a puppy a lesser quantity of adult dog food, on the assumption that an adult dog just needs more food than a puppy, therefore more nutrition. It would be similar to state that you could cut an adult (human) vitamin in half and feed it to a child and meet their RDA. It just doesn’t work that way.
    I’m also wondering where your opinion of Royal Canin as being low quality food comes from. Their food is specifically designed for the size of dog that I’m feeding. It also meets the same nutritional requirements that are set by the AAFCO, and specifically fits the profile for puppy nutrition.

  • Shawna

    I agree that “puppies do need more calories and essential nutrient than do adult dogs”. But if you feed a high quality, all life stage, food you can provide that nutrition often times MUCH better than when feeding a lower quality puppy food. If you look at the AAFCO guidelines (linked below) there is no nutrient that puppies require that adult dogs don’t also require. So all you have to do is feed the puppy MORE of the quality food than you do the adults in your care.

    It’s MUCH more advisable to feed a high quality all life stage food (like Orijen or Nature’s Variety Instinct) than to feed a lower quality puppy food (like Purina Puppy Chow)…

    Additionally, they have known for quite a long time now that senior dogs have different nutritional requirements than adult dogs in that they need MORE (sometimes as much as 50% more) protein than adult dogs. Some may need reduced fat too. Also, they KNOW that dogs with kidney disease acutally have an increased need for protein… Feeding Science Diet K/D is the exact opposite of what a dog in the early stages of kidney disease actually needs. Vets may disagree with this but research done in the last 15 to 20 years proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    I’m actually not a fan of Life’s Abundance foods. But my guess is that your pup’s problem was with a particular ingredient in the food versus the food itself. It’s likely that that same ingredient in a different food would cause the same symptoms. While food allergies are rare, food intolerances are quite common in our pets…

  • Pattyvaughn

    All Life Stages food is puppy food. AAFCO only recognizes 2 different nutrient profiles, Growth and Maintenance. If a food meets the more stringent requirements for Growth, it is allowed to be labeled for All Life Stages.
    And there are several ingredients in this food that I wouldn’t feed so I completely understand. But trading it for Royal Canin, I don’t. That’s OK, I don’t have to understand. I would just never be content with feeding my dogs something that low quality. I’m very aware of their needs and I prefer to exceed them rather than just barely meet them.
    BTW, unless you vet is really extraordinary, he had very little nutrition in college, maybe only one class, Small Animal Nutrition, which is a pretty broad subject to cover in one semester and does not specialize in either dog or cat nutrition. His continuing education was likely all sponsored by Hill’s, Royal Canin, and Purina. Not exactly unbiased. I’ve been in those seminars, and they were a whole bunch of, if you have this issue, feed this food. That is not nutrition training.
    And while a cat may require a specific nutrient level to dissolve stones, it doesn’t have to have it for crystals. It may be advisable to look for particular things in a diet and it may even be advisable to formulate your own diet, but it is not required to use a prescription diet for crystals. Diluting urine flushes crystals out of the bladder. Feeding less grains will lower pH.

  • Shawna

    Cats really don’t need a specialized prescription food to prevent or treat struvite crystals (the most common kind seen in cats). In fact, all they really need is a HIGH protein, species appropriate diet.

    “CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE:

    Starch and fiber in diets potentially stimulate formation of struvite crystals. Hence, reducing dietary carbohydrate is desirable to prevent struvite urolith formation. In addition, a net loss of body calcium, phosphorus, and magnesium during feeding of the fiber diet suggests that dietary inclusion of insoluble fiber could increase macromineral requirements of cats.” http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14974568

    DL-methionine is a supplement that can be give to cats and dogs to acidify the urine and prevent or treat struvite crystals / stones. http://www.vetdepot.com/v-e-t-pharmaceuticals-dl-methionine-500-mg-1000-tablets.html

    Methionine (the natural form of DL-methionine) is an amino acid in protein. Eating species appropriate, meat based diets does a much better and safer job of preventing struvite crystals and stones in cats (and many vets believe in dogs too).
    There is NO prescription food that couldn’t be better duplicated in a real food diet (either raw or cooked).

    Prescription diets are a scam and are a convenience product not a necessity. My dog was born with kidney disease and has had it for seven years and is VERY healthy to this day. She has never eaten prescription food of any kind.

  • Craftharlot

    Did you read the part about “THEY ALSO SELL HOME CLEANING PRODUCTS”??

  • Craftharlot

    Actually, some cats DO need a specialized food that is available only from a vet, because the food reduces urinary pH and has a lower magnesium content. These foods are available only from a vet because either the company that produces the food only sells to vets, or because the food has such a narrow market that it doesn’t make sense for a pet store to carry it. I figure my vet has been through enough school to be educated on the needs of my pet, so I’ll trust his judgment. After several extremely expensive vet stays, we started feeding him the s/d food. A little more expensive than others, but no more emergency vet visits, IV’s and suffering.

    It’s great that you’re content to feed your dogs the same food regardless of their nutritional needs and vary the amounts they receive to control their caloric intake. That works for you, and that’s fine. I wouldn’t consider doing that for my puppy, though. Judging from how well he’s doing on the new food, I’ll stick with it. He has firm stools, no more horrific gas, and he’s putting on weight and growing beautifully. His eyes are shiny, his coat is soft, and he is playful and happy instead of sleepy and lethargic. We give him Royal Canin mini puppy.

    It may well be that there was an ingredient in the Life’s Abundance that he couldn’t digest very well, and that would account for his issues. However, I stand by the statement that I’d rather feed my pet a food that is suited to his growth needs than a food that is suited for any dog at any stage.

    This is from the AKC: “Puppies need more calories and essential nutrients than do adult dogs. Choose a food specially formulated for puppies. “

  • Pattyvaughn

    All foods that wolves feed provide what is needed for a puppies growth. There is no ingredient in puppy food that adult dogs don’t need and there is no ingredient in adult food that puppies don’t need. You can get away with feeding an adult lower quality food, but that doesn’t make it better for the adult. I feed all my dogs from the youngest pup to the 11 1/2 year old All life Stages Food. I just feed less to the ones that need less and more to the ones that need more. BTW, buying food from the vet is no different than buying from the breeder except for who gets your money. Cats don’t need special prescription food to get rid of crystals, but they do need to be on canned food so they have plenty of moisture in their diet.

  • Craftharlot

    I forgot to add that wolf pups are wild animals and the mother doesn’t have access to foods which provide specifically for the growth of her pups. She hunts what she can, and makes the best of it. I can shop. If the wolf mother could shop, I’m sure she’d choose a food designed specifically with the growth needs of her pups in mind. She just doesn’t have a choice.

  • Craftharlot

    I don’t see your point. Yes, puppies have a different nutritional requirement than adults dogs. Just like children have different caloric and nutritional needs than adults do. I realize that labeling foods ‘puppy’ or ‘adult’ are marketing terms, but they make it easily understandable for the general public to know if the food will be for growth or maintenance. My older dog gets food which is designed for ‘less active dogs’ – meaning that it has a lower caloric content.

    The AAFCO is the regulatory agency for pet food labeling. They do not provide information about what food or food ingredients are best suited to different ages, breeds or anything else. They require pet food labeling to meet certain requirements in order to meet their standard. The food label on Life’s Abundance states ‘for puppies and adult dogs’ but that only means that the food is identified by the manufacturer as being nutritionally ADEQUATE for those stages. It doesn’t mean that it’s ideally suited for growth – and how can you have a food that’s truly for both growth AND maintenance? Would you eat the same foods (and the same quantities) if you’re trying to maintain your weight as if you’re trying to gain weight? I wouldn’t expect my puppy to, either.
    Here’s the information from the AAFCO site about life stage labeling.
    “Nutritional Adequacy Statement, if required -
    [If you call your product a complete and balanced food, the claim must be
    substantiated. The Nutritional Adequacy Statement will also state for which life
    stage(s) the product is suitable for, such as for maintenance or for growth. This is
    a statement that indicates the food is complete and balanced for a particular
    life stage, such as growth, reproduction, adult maintenance or a combination of
    these, or intended for intermittent or supplemental feeding only. Products
    conspicuously identified on the principal display panel as a snack, treat, or
    supplement are exempt.]”

    Personally, I think the food is to blame for the low weight of my pup when I got him, and also for the gas and bloat that he had. I prefer to feed my pets quality food from a source that is easily available, either from my vet or a pet food or feed store. (some foods that help alleviate medical conditions are only available from my vet, like the foods for my cat’s bladder crystals, they aren’t sold in pet stores) The fact that the breeder would recommend a food that she gets a kickback from purchases made through her link tells me that she is not unbiased – and that concerns me.

    When the appliance salesman tells you to use Amway detergent, then gives you a card to his website, would you buy their detergent just because he recommended it? Of course not. You would check it out, then make up your own mind, right?? Same thing here. The kicker was that she also ‘doubled the health guarantee’ if we bought through her purchasing link. The ‘health guarantee’ is that she would replace any dog up to 1 year if it turned out that there was a genetic issue that was discovered by a vet. A genetic issue wouldn’t be affected by the food, so it’s just a gimmick to get you to buy food from her link so she’d make money after you buy the pup from her.

    As with all things, think for yourself. Read between the lines and look for the motivation before you get scooped up by the gimmicks. I think this food may be just fine for older dogs, but my experience with it has been less than satisfactory, and based on the motive behind the breeder’s recommendation, I think that a food specifically designed for the growth of puppies is a better choice for my pet.

  • Tobias C

    Did this breeder happen to breed staffy’s by any chance? I went to a different breeder for mine… But it is perfectly understandable how a single food could provide for both puppies and adults. Think about it do wolf pups eat a different processed food than their mom? of course not.

    Puppy and adult foods are purely marketing. Look at the label if should say AAFCO approved for maintenance (adult) or maintenance and growth (puppies OR all life stages). A puppy food and an all life stages food is the same thing they are both labeled “growth and maintenance.” Some (such as Fromm Classics or Merrick Classic) actually even say “adult” but are actually growth and maintenance. That is because “adult” and “puppy” are purely marketing terms. You should only worry on what is on the AAFCO mandated label.

  • InkedMarie

    Why does your dog get annual shots?

  • trishsweetiesmom

    My Papillon came from a long line of healthy dogs who only eat Life’s Abundance. She is three now and gets her annual shots and full exam and then the vet says to come back in a year….. very healthy dog. I think it’s the food!

  • LabsRawesome

    Omg. I hope this isn’t “Tinky’s Mom” again.

  • tinky1

    This food is crap dont buy it

  • joanna

    There porkhides are made in china. what a scam.

  • Kathy Lewis

    Is he on LA? If so, they do not need to and will not eat as much as other dog foods.. It is so packed with all the nutritional ingredients and no fillers that they do not need as much food to get full… Quality over quantity!

  • Shell
  • Shell

    We have tried so many dog and Cat foods and spent thousands on Vet recommended EXPENSIVE brands. Life’s Abundance is by far the best yet. I love the fact that they have NEVER had a recall and use human grade ingredients. I love this product so much that I now sell it! [email protected]

  • Blimey

    I read a lot of people now the raw stuff. I dont have any doggies but planning on getting one and beenn reading alot on here and dogfoodanalysis and others and raw is is leading in popularity as the best food. why not a raw then if any budget? raw meats has no grains?

  • Marie Jackson

    Very true, dogs have shorter digestive tracts and build-up of grains there cause a whole domino effect of immune/inflammatory problems.

  • Healthy Menu PetFood

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  • Pattyvaughn

    Very slowly and add a digestive supplement that has both probiotics and digestive enzymes. A human one from the health food store will work just fine. Some dogs benefit from some pure canned pumpkin added to their food. Add only about 1/8 of the new food to the old food and feed that way for a few days, at least until you have had 3 days of normal poop. Then add 1/4 new food to the old food for a few days, again at least 3 days of normal poop. Keep adding more new food and less old and waiting until you know her body has adjusted before increasing again until she is completely on the new food.
    I committed to feeding a rotational diet with my dog that had a sensitive stomach and quickly found that after about the third or fourth food that she no longer had a sensitive stomach. Now I switch up what she is eating on a daily basis with no ill effects.

  • Pam

    My mom has been trying to switch her dog from Nutro sensitive stomachs. Anyway she’s been trying to transition her for a month. Buttercup started having diarrhea, so she was fed boiled rice and beef. She’s seems to be acting normal again. Does anyone have suggestions on how to successfully switch foods with a sensitive dog?

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  • DG

    I have a 3 year old English Mastiff that has been on LA since i purchased him at 8 weeks old. Breeder recommended Lifes Abundance. My Mastiff is stunning , healthy and my Vet says ” whatever your feeding him keep him on it” ! The LA customer servcie is down right awesome and I like the fact that I get my 40lb bags shipped to my home automatically. I also own a 3 year old Samoyed who goes between LA and Orijen . He likes the more ” gamey” smell of the meaty Orijen but then gets in the mood for LA. IMHO Lifes Abundance along with their outstanding customer service makes it one of the best dog foods money can by.

  • Leona

    Life’s Abundance is made with ONLY USA ingredients and has NEVER been on any recall.

    Life’s Abundance is NOT sold is stores to order please go to http://www.HolisticPetCafe.com

  • jaybird1030

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  • AJ

    Thanks everyone for the help. He started eating LA again, so I am not sure if I am going to switch the food yet. But thanks for the tips. Most likely if I do change it, it will be grain-free.

  • AJ

    Yep. But it’s not hip displasia. It’s another name that I can’t remember.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    AJ, Aren’t you the one with the Cav puppy with hip dysplasia?

  • AJ

    I was feeding him orijen puppy. and he has something wrong with his hips and shoulders. I am not sure what the disease is called but he was born with it.

  • Shawna

    Does he have any medical issues? What food were you feeding that caused the smell and was it gas or body odor? Was the smell and pooping when transitioning or after being on the food a while. If protein is being digested properly it should cause less stool not more.. Does he have digestive issues? There are some things that can be done to help with digestion no matter what food he’s eating.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Dogs’ intestinal flora adjusts to what they are being fed. Sometimes when you switch foods they need a little help to readjust in the form of probiotics and digestive enzymes. Gas and icky stools are a product of partial digestion of foods. So your dog’s body is used to high grain and low protein and doesn’t have what it needs to properly digest protein. That means his intestines are not really healthy which affects his immune system.
    BTW, I consider 28% protein way too low, definitely not high.