Flint River Ranch (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★½☆

Flint River Ranch Dog Food receives the Advisor’s mid-tier rating of 3.5 stars.

The Flint River Ranch product line includes 7 dry dog foods.

Although each formulation appears to be designed for a specific life stage, we found no AAFCO nutritional adequacy statements for these dog foods on the Flint River Ranch website.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Flint River Ranch Senior Plus Adult
  • Flint River Ranch Trout and Potato Adult
  • Flint River Ranch Lamb Meal, Millet & Rice Adult
  • Flint River Ranch Dry Water Ultra Fresh Innovations
  • Flint River Ranch Duck Meal and Oatmeal Adult Dog Food
  • Flint River Ranch Original Oven-Baked Kibble Puppy & Adult
  • Flint River Ranch Original Oven-Baked Nuggets Puppy & Adult

Flint River Ranch Original Oven-Baked Nuggets was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Flint River Ranch Original Oven-Baked Nuggets

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 26% | Fat = 13% | Carbs = 53%

Ingredients: Chicken meal, ground whole brown rice, wheat flour, ground whole rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), oat flour, tomato pomace, white fish meal, alfalfa meal, natural flavor, potassium chloride, salt, vitamins (choline chloride, a-tocopherol acetate (source of vitamin E), niacin, calcium pantothenate, vitamin A supplement, ascorbic acid (source of vitamin C), pridoxine hydrochloride (source of vitamin B6), thiamine mononitrate (source of vitamin B1), riboflavin supplement, vitamin B12 supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, folic acid), minerals (zinc sulfate, zinc amino acid chelate, ferrous sulfate, manganese amino acid chelate, copper sulfate, copper amino acid chelate, sodium selenite, calcium iodate), kelp meal, lecithin, rosemary extract, sage extract, dried Bacillus subtilis fermentation product, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation product

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.4%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis23%12%NA
Dry Matter Basis26%13%53%
Calorie Weighted Basis23%29%48%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The second ingredient is brown rice, a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) can be fairly easy to digest. However, aside from its natural energy content, rice is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The third ingredient is wheat flour, a highly-refined product of wheat milling. Like corn, wheat is an inexpensive and controversial cereal grain of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

For this reason, we do not consider wheat a preferred component in any dog food.

The fourth ingredient is whole rice. Once cooked, whole rice is a gluten-free source of digestible carbohydrates and dietary fiber.

The fifth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The sixth ingredient is oat flour. Since oat flour is nothing more than finely ground oats, it provides about the same gluten-free nutritional content as raw oats.

The seventh ingredient is tomato pomace. Tomato pomace is a controversial ingredient, a by-product remaining after processing tomatoes into juice, soup and ketchup.

Many praise tomato pomace for its high fiber and nutrient content, while others scorn it as an inexpensive pet food filler.

Just the same, there’s probably not enough tomato pomace here to make much of a difference.

The eighth item is white fish meal, another meat concentrate. Whitefish is a marine or freshwater species native to Canada and the California coast.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

We are pleased to note that, unlike many fish meals, this particular item appears2 to be ethoxyquin-free.

The ninth ingredient is alfalfa meal. Although alfalfa meal is high in plant protein (about 18%) and fiber (25%), this hay-family item is more commonly associated with horse feeds.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptions

First, we note the use of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

And lastly, this food also contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Flint River Ranch Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Flint River Ranch looks to be an average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 26%, a fat level of 13% and estimated carbohydrates of about 53%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 24% and a mean fat level of 12%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 56% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 50%.

Below-average protein. Below-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Flint River Ranch is a plant-based kibble using a moderate amount of poultry, lamb, or fish meals as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 3.5 stars.

Recommended.

A Final Word

This review is designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food. However, our rating system is not intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in specific health benefits for your pet.

For a better understanding of how we analyzed this product, please be sure to read our article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt consult a veterinarian for help.

Have an opinion about this dog food? Or maybe the review itself? Please know we welcome your comments.

Notes and Updates

04/19/2010 Original review
07/15/2010 Review updated
09/12/2010 Review updated (flaxseed meal)
10/28/2010 Added Duck and Oatmeal/removed Senior Lite)
04/12/2012 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
  2. FRR Customer Service via email dated 4/16/2012
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  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    Sorry that I didn’t put Senior Plus so you would know what it was without having to look it up. No the customer did not return it. Once the dog got over whatever caused the problem it is eating the Senior Plus along with the Duck and Oatmeal. The Senior Plus is a good food for their hips and joints. Yes the D&O has the E&P in it. No all of the formula’s doesn’t have them in it. Trout & Sweet Potato, Lamb,Millet&Rice and the Duck & Oatmeal all has them in the formula’s.
    I only want what is best for the pets out there. If I thought this product would cause any problems I wouldn’t be using it let alone selling it. But when I have seen pets being saved from being put down for one reason or another once they try the food it is worth it all.

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    So Sharon – You “sold a bag of the Duck & Oatmeal to a lady that her dog couldn’t keep anything down and also had diarreaha” who had been feeding “SPlus which didn’t have the Prob & Digestive Enzymes in it.”

    Your cryptic comments are annoying. Who would know what SPlus is? I went to the FRR website and figured out that SPlus must mean Senior Plus.
    http://www.frrco.com/show_prod.php?cat=c&mode=s&id=6

    You stated “So far I haven’t had a dog yet that has had any trouble with it [FRR]” and “I haven’t had anyone yet to send it back”.

    If SPlus is FRR Senior Plus, the dog did indeed have trouble with it because you said the “dog couldn’t keep anything down and also had diarreaha”
    But now after you “sold a bag of the Duck & Oatmeal” “the dog is doing great”.
    Did the lady customer return her SPlus food?

    Also, on the FRR website, I notice only a couple of the formulas have digestive enzymes included. The Duck Meal and Oatmeal Formula doesn’t have the enzymes. Not all formulas have the probiotics either. That’s weird.

  • http://www.whosyourvet.com Sandi

    Thanks Sharon. I have 2 Whippets, 15 years, 7 years. I then switched to Wellness Core Original. I did read other people commented about not being able to keep weight on their dog w/Wellness. I recently switched to Earthborn Primitive. I always feed 2x/day but now I’m giving 1/2 jar of beef baby food during the day. If I give him 3/4 cup kibble, he gets the “d”. 1/2 cup seems to be working. Thanks for your info! I hope the dog continues to do well. One of my Vets said they can crash rather quickly and it can be life threatening when they have pancreatitis. I’m so happy her diagnosis was incorrect.

  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    Hi Sandi
    Yes I am a Ind Dist of FRR. I have never had anyone have any trouble with putting weight on with it. I had a lady that rescued a Sheperd and had been trying for over a year to put weight on it. She contacted me and went with FRR and in less than 3 months the dog had put most of the weight it needed back on. As far as I am concerned it is great food.

  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    Hi Bob K
    It was on the SPlus which didn’t have the Prob & Digestive Enzymes in it. Didn’t know of anything that caused the problem it just seemed to happen. It was at the Vets with medication and IV’s. When it came home it was still having problems until they called me and I took them over the D&O and it was able to keep it down and is now doing great.

  • http://www.whosyourvet.com Sandi

    Hi Sharon,

    My guy was diagnosed with pancreatitis and I went with Wellness Reduced Fat – I think it was 10% fat max. according to the label. It was a big problem trying to find a kibble low in fat. Turned out the diagnosis was incorrect. I’m still trying to put the weight back on him that he lost.

    Is Flint River more of a multi-level marketing company like Life’s Abundance where there are independant distributors?

  • Bob K

    Sharon – What did the sick dog with pancreatitis eat before that you sold the Duck & Oatmeal to them? If it was a 1 star food previously then FRR would have been a huge step up. Besides the new food, what else did the Vet do for Medications and treatment?

  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    I also just sold a bag of the Duck & Oatmeal to a lady that her dog had pancreatitis??? and it couldn’t keep anything down and also had diarreaha. She really didn’t think it was going to make it. But just saw her and the dog is doing great.

  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    All I can tell you is that I have had a lot of customers before they try it to think for one reason or another that there dogs cannot eat the FRR because they think they are allergic to one thing or another in it. So far I haven’t had a dog yet that has had any trouble with it but I am not telling you to do it. If for some reason you wouldn’t like it you can get your money back within the 1st 30 days of trying it. I haven’t had anyone yet to send it back yet that I know of. I really think you would be pleased with the results. Just let me know if you would like me to send you a sample. What kind of dogs and food does you friend have and use. By the way I pet sit and I baby sat a Shih zhu once. This dog had never shed it coat totally it was always shedding until they changed it to FRR.

  • melissa

    Meg K-

    I feed my IBD dog Acana Grain free-so far he has had the Wilf Prairie and the Pacifica w/out issue. Not sure if they would work for your furkid or not.

  • Meg K

    Thanks Sharon! I would appreciate a sample but I just reviewed the ingredients for the fish and chips and it doesn’t sound like it is grain-free (please let me know if I am wrong) and I am concerned about that Brewers yeast might be something she is allergic to as well. My friend has used FRR for her dogs and recommended it to me but After further review, I think it might be one of those that she wouldn’t be able to tolerate.

  • http://www.adomesticfriend.com Sharon

    Hi Meg K
    I use this food as well as sell it. I tell everyone that I sell to that I cannot say it will help there pet because it might be the one that it doesn’t work for. But so far I have had nothing but great results with the food. I have had dogs with digestive problems and had been on medication that didn’t help them and the food took care of it. If you would like to try a sample of it I would be glad to send it to you. Just email me at sharon.ours@frontier.com or call 304 613 9088 Mike I hope not to cause anyone to upset again. I just truly believe in this food and I think you have a great site here. That we should share our experiences with to help others. I know SD is sold at Vets offices but I am not sold on that product at all.
    Thanks
    Sharon

  • Meg K

    YIKES!!!! I am trying to read all of the postings but it becoming a bunch of rambling. Is there anyone who actually tried this food?? I have a little shih zhu who is 1 1/2 years old and has IBD. I am trying to find something that doesn’t contain any grains, chicken or beef. I am currently giving her tilapia and green beans. I did get a suggestion of The Honest Kitchen’s Zeal food but I tried other food from that company and she wouldn’t not eat it. She is extremely picky. Also wondering if you review supplements? It was suggested to me to give her THK Perfect Form but when I told my vet about it, he said I shouldn’t give it to her because he didn’t think supplements work and could do more harm than good. Any thoughts?

  • Jonathan

    Thank you for pointing out the needless use of capitalization. I haven’t been able to make it all the way through anything any of the Leders have written because the shouting, run-on sentences, and graphic overuse of “…” makes my brain hurt.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Victor… My reviews are true and accurate and (like every one of the 550+ reviews on this website) are based upon government-regulated labels. And nothing else.

    It’s completely unreasonable for you to expect any reviewer to comb through the tens of thousands of pages on the web written by the manufacturers themselves… to find information they could have already included on the label anyway.

    That’s why I created this site as a blog. It allows folks like you to add their comments and report findings.

    Regarding probiotics (a minor ingredient in any dog food), this isn’t the only FRR product that doesn’t contain probiotics. Many of FRR’s products do NOT contain probiotics. So, the current product is a reasonable example of this product line.

    Regarding the fish meal. This is a case where FRR could very easily have included the word “menhaden” in front of the phrase “fish meal”. Many manufacturers actually do this. Why should FRR’s expect its customers to visit its corporate website to search for common information that could have been readily included on the label in the first place?

    By the way, even after reading the FRR website, I’m still stumped as to why these two nearly identical wheat ingredients were intentionally split in this way. After all, what’s the difference between “whole wheat flour” and “ground whole wheat”.

    This is appears to be nothing more than a deceptive way to make the whole wheat flour move from the first position on the list (where it belongs) to the second position. This, of course, makes the chicken meal look like the main ingredient in this product.

    Victor… as much as you’d like for me to agree with you, this is simply a 3-star dog food. Not bad. But it’s no 4 or 5-star product using common analysis. There are lots better products out there for the money.

    Oh, one more thing… in respect for our many other readers, writing in all caps is considered “shouting” and rude on the Internet. Is there any way the Leder family could consider toning down the way you guys post your comments and simply use normal sentence case structure when you post?

  • VICTOR LEDER

    IVE READ THE ENTIRE WEB SITE OF FLINT RIVER RANCH AND TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHICH IT ISNT ON THIS PAGE..IF YOU READ UNDER INGRED ON THE MAIN PAGE IT DOES SAY
    RICE—IS MIXTURE OF WHITE AND BROWN
    DOES SAY WHAT KIND OF FISH THE FISH MEAL IS..ITS
    MENHADEN
    AND…JUST THIS ONE PRODUCT YOU RATED HAS NO PROBIOTICS MANY OF OF THE OTHR FLINT RIVER RANCH DOES HAVE PROBIOTICS IN IT
    I FEEL YOU SHOULD ADJUST ALL YOU WROTE IN YOUR ARTICLE TO STATE THE TRUE FACTS OH YES
    ABOUT THE WHEAT THAT YOU CLAIM YOU SAY “I DONT KNOW..WHY..THEY CHOOSE TO LIST T TWICE”?? THATS WRITTEN VERY CLEAR ON THEI PGE TOO. YOU IM SURE WILL NOT PRINT TIS BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT WANT TO ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG TO MY WIFE…HOWEVER ..IF..YOU DO GO AND READ THE ENTIRE WEBSITE..YOU ..WILLL..FIND SHE WAS RIGHT AS WELL AS I…IN ALL THAT I CORRECTED THAT WAS WRONG IN THE REVIEW. I HOPE SINCE YOU..WONT…PRINT THIS YOU WILL DO ALL A GREAT FAVOR TO CHANGE ALL THAT YOU WROTE THAT IS WRONG ABOVE ITS ONLY RIGHT AND FAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO EAD YOUR SITE..THANK YOU HAVE A GRAND DAY

  • Gordon

    Well Mike. I hope one day you get around to it. I do like to add my opinions as you can see, and a forum is a great place to do such. BTW, I assure that all my opinions and any imparted knowledge that I share, truly comes from the heart, experience and established literature, with passion and completely agenda free!

  • John Van Stry

    I’m glad I found this site, it is rather informative. I have one older White GSD and I just got a new GSD puppy (from an ‘old fashioned GSD breeder – square back, larger size). She gave me 10 pounds of the Flint River food with the puppy and swears by it. Says she’s been using it for a long time with all of her dogs and has had great results. (she’s been a breeder for over a decade that I know of).
    Now compared to what I’ve been feeding my older dog, Flint River is head and shoulders above that. I’d say it’s definitely way better than most store available diets! But after looking around at the 5 star rated dry foods I’m thinking of switching both dogs over to Origen, because I can buy it locally as well as online. Yes it works out to about 2 dollars a pound (Flint is about a 1.75) which really isn’t that bad. Yes raw would be cheaper (though more labor intensive) but after years of buying raw meat by the ton to feed the cats I used to raise (hint, big ones) I’m tired of all the fuss involved in feeding raw. Yeah I would have fed the cats kibble if the price tag wouldn’t have killed me!

    For the people who want to slam Flint, really, is this a productive use of your time? Yes we know you don’t like it. Fine, move along.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Gordon… As I mentioned previously, DFA is a blog. You’re talking about a “topical” forum. This requires special forum software installed in another subdomain. And it can require registered membership and moderators. I’m looking into adding forum functionality to my website. But not sure if or when that might happen. Until then, visitors to our blog are expecting to read about dog food (not the pros and cons of breeding. Until then, it’s important for our blog discussions to remain relative to the topic of dog food. I’ll keep my eyes open for a solution.

  • Gordon

    Ummm well, Flint River Ranch is a dog food that’s called Flint River Ranch. Ummm, Mike has rated it 3 stars. Ummm, it has grains in it and is too high in carbs and relatively low in protein. Ummm, so all in all, it’s a not so good kibble.

    I’ve got the next night off and am not going to sleep now, because I’ll sleep tonight, as I’ve got some things on the net to do, and so I’m still about on here at this time, which I haven’t been before.

    Back to dog food. I think there should be another category called, “Free for All” or “Speak Your Mind” or what ever name I suggested a couple of days ago. IDK. But people want to express themselves and perhaps such debates/arguments should be allowed to run its course. Just MO

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hey, Guys… Let’s try to keep the discussion to dog food. Please.

  • Antonio

    Bob K, I disagree w/ your thoughts that all breeders are irresponsible and the cause for the over population of pets. I agree over breeding is a major part of the issue and the reason animal shelters are flooded, but to label all breeders as irresponsible, is about as irresponsible as labeling an entire race of people based on the actions and or stupidity of a hand full of individuals. It’s the same issue of discrimination facing the pet world now w/ many BSL issues arising in towns across what use to be a free country (USA). I’m not posting this to get into a long drawn out debate, but I do feel that grouping all breeders into the category of being irresponsible is a irresponsible comment within itself.

  • Bob K

    Sandi – No, I am not a member of PETA nor do I follow their agenda, goals, missions etc…. No, I do not work for a shelter. The point is all breeders will say they are responsible, The dogs come from all places including responsible breeders what ever that means.

    Define responsible breeder, Who sets the stds for responsible? Who enforces it? Wink Wink – Shhh don’t tell anyone, the answer is NO ONE so we have a pet overpopulation problem just like we have lots of crappy dog food on the market. It all starts at the source – People who breed dogs responsibly, by accident or for casual sport and fun. Who will claim they are the irresponsible breeder? Everyone will tell you they are responsible.

  • http://www.whosyourvet.com Sandi

    Bob K – I think you volunteer for a shelter, am I correct? I personally am not a breeder as I stated before. I do know breeders and they aren’t anything like you describe.

    “If the question you are refering to is where do I get my information from about breeders, its from the breeders who also claim thay are resonsible and reputable breeders as you make the same claim.”

    I’m assuming you have spoken to every single breeder throughout the US and have seen all the contracts. I’m sure there are breeders that aren’t responsible. You can’t accuse every single breeder to be irresponsible. You are blaming all breeders for the overpopulation. I am saying it’s people that are not spaying/neutering and their dogs are running loose, not to mention the backyard breeders that aren’t responsible. You have gotten a few breeder’s feedback on the Beneful page who are responsible. You’re putting all breeders down. I asked if you were a PETA member and there was no response. Don’t they want to eliminate all pets?

    Gordon – Funny, I was going to ask you the same question. I didn’t accuse you of putting down any grain free foods. Where did I say “commercial holistic kibble is an improvement on a natural ancestral raw diet?”

    Why don’t you go back and read what Cathy posted – she asked a question she already knew the answer to re: holistic food.

    “I am not allowed to offer you a correct meaning re “commercial” and “holistic”. I think we will be going around in circles on the meaning. I understand your point & definition according to the dictionary. But in a general conversation with my friends and on forums, we refer to holistic or commercial brands and we know which brands they mean. I do agree holistic is technically commercial since it’s sold to the public.

  • Antonio

    Ladies & Gentlemen, on behalf of myself and many other readers. I think this blog is a great place, but it does tend to get argumentative and redundant at times b/c many people online and in person have thin skin, and don’t like it when someone disagrees w/ their philosophy (I’ve fallen into that category at different times on here myself). However I believe having the different experiences and opinions is one of the beauties of this blog. I’m not a advocate of raw feeding, but I’ve still manage to learn some good things from many of the people on here that do feed raw. And hopefully that trend will work visa versa that some of the raw feeders might be able to find & utilize a quality kibble in the event raw is unavailable at some point, they can make a better choice provided by some of the information recieved from this blog. With all that being said hopefully we can remain cordial and continue to enlighten one another w/ useful experiences and leave the attitudes and arguing off this blog. And here’s the age old one liner :) “Can we all just get along” ??? :D

  • Gordon

    Sandi – What is your problem? Have a look at other commercial raw brand threads and you’ll read that I said they all looked good on paper.

    You say Cathy and I, this and that. This blog isn’t about a Nanny state. Where in the hell have I said bad things about good quality grain free kibbles? I’ve also commended Artemis Maximal! Go have a read. I’ve also commended Earthborn, Brothers, etc etc. What do you want from me?

    To say that commercial holistic kibble is an improvement on a natural ancestral raw diet? I can’t say something like that, which would be a misleading and totally incorrect statement!

    What is our debate over? I don’t really know what you’re wanting from me? You say you stated, “End of story/conversation”, before, so that means that I am not allowed to offer you a correct meaning re “commercial” and “holistic”. When “holistic” kibble is not legally recognised and is actually, also commercial, is a fact, and not an opinion. Even Mike has admitted to that before, re that “holistic”, is not recognised or monitored by your FDA or whatever it is. Nor is it in Australia.

    It’s OK that you promote your book and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that! I said, I wonder if you could be just wanting to promote your book, when you insist that there is a difference between holistic and commercial.

    I stopped short of stating or alluding that, that could be due to your book stating that the two terms are different and holistic isn’t commercial? It was someone else who stated that they wondered if we’d uncovered holes in some of your book’s content? That statement was probably a legitimate one as well. At any rate, we all make mistakes, and you’re not being singled out for ridicule. I, myself, get immediately pounced on if I make an error in statement, to which I’m happy to be stood corrected, especially if whoever stands me corrected does so in a non-condescending and respectful way.

    But there is in no way that kibble, holistic or otherwise, is better than a properly balanced raw diet such as BARF, Primal, Darwins, Stella and Chewys, ZiwiPeak etc.

    Again, read all of those threads and you’ll see I have also stated positive comments re those brands!

  • Bob K

    Sandi – If the question you are refering to is where do I get my information from about breeders, its from the breeders who also claim thay are resonsible and reputable breeders as you make the same claim. Most talk a great story as you do. Tracking 90% of a breeders litters doesn’t cut it , do the math. I have also read many breeders contracts, I have never seen one that states, “We will take the dog back any time for any reason at any age anytme you want and not put it down.”

    Do you really expect breeders to say something like: 1.) I run a puppy mill 2.) I breed for the money 3.) I sell all my dogs to whoever wants them, 4.) I don’t care who my bitch or stud breeds with as long as I make my fee.

    If you are breeding dogs, you are part of the dog population problem.

  • http://www.whosyourvet.com Sandi

    Thanks Mike. I appreciate all the work & dedication you put into your website. I was looking forward to adding value to your site but don’t care to go through a battle. In reading other posts, it seems I’m not the only one.

    “It is the evolutionary diet chosen by all mighty Nature, so I’m just agreeing with Nature”.

    Did you know the all mighty Nature also has “Primal” – another frozen raw diet that is supposed to be excellent. Did you know there are forums just for raw feeders? I would say the majority of people are feeding kibble. You feed both kibble & raw – that’s your choice and no one is telling you to change. You are definitely promoting the BARF diet for whatever reason. Did you ever try any other brand? Have you tried grinding fresh organic meat, bones, organs, etc.? That to me is feeding “raw.” I don’t want to regress and start this thread over again so I’m not asking for a response. Selling frozen raw food is expensive for a pet parent with multiple pets or a large breed – I don’t know the percentage a retailer makes off it. I know they make 30% off of kibble.

    “Nor could I have been seen as combative in any way.”

    Really, really – why did you continue with your comments after I stated I did not wish to continue – I felt enough was said on both sides. You & Cathy did not respect my wishes. (BTW, I think you flip flopped on something after Cathy wrote her comments.) If someone tells me they no longer wish to discuss the matter, I back off. Then you accused me of “wanting to just promote your book here as the be all end all”. Did you think I was really going to respond to you or Cathy – you could not get me back into your web, sorry.

    “I confirmed with Dr. Ian Billinghurst, a qualified and practicing Vet with Honours. It is Ok to feed raw to dogs with compromised immunities. It requires the correct balance between certain and advice is given on a case by case basis. It is by far better to feed such dogs their natural diet with modifications and is still better than feeding even the better quality grain free kibbles that no matter how one looks at it, are still extruded and processed. ”

    He’s the only one, out of all the holistic Vets & nutritionists I spoke with, that thinks feeding raw is ok. Does he note that on his website?

    I’d be impressed, if I was using him just as my Vet, that he graduated with honors. I always like to know a Vet’s schooling. I’m sure there are other Vets that graduated with honors that don’t have a product line. I’m impressed with a Vet that graduated from the Univ. of Pa. or Cornell here in the states.

    I wonder if my 2x cancer survivor dog would still be here if I fed him raw. I listened to my Vets, did my research and came up with a treatment plan which included cooking chicken, steamed vegetables, chinese herbs, as well as supplements. I also fed him EVO which was grain free, high protein, low carbs recommended by Vets. I since went off the Natura line when Proctor & Gamble took over. High fats is also recommended for a dog with cancer.

    “Sharon – Bob K keeps asking you a simple question: Where is the food made?”

    I also asked Bob K. a simple question that went unanswered on http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/beneful-dog-food-dry/

    Hi Melissa , yes we are all here to learn from each other & are entitled to their opinion. I don’t have a problem with that. I repeated myself numerous times that we all make choices. Some people try to convince others their way is the only way and seem hostile when told there are risks to everything. I really felt bad for Sharon as they weren’t backing off. Who cares what the exact name of the city is? I always call the manufacturer and ask who makes their wet & dry foods. If they don’t want to volunteer that info, I move on to another brand. I bet if Jonathan asked his co-workers who the manufacturer is of a brand, they wouldn’t know. Jonathan is taking the time to learn. I think Sharon deserves an apology. And, if anyone is having a bad day, don’t come to these websites to beat someone up – punch a pillow!

  • melissa

    Sandi-

    I would certaintly hope you would stay. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to express it. Not everyone is going to agree all the time, but isn’t that the reason we all come to places like this? To become informed on all options and opinions?

    Melissa

  • melissa

    Well Gordon, that is one vets opinion,. For every opinion out there, there will be differences. No one can say for sure what will work best with each animal, but to present both sides of the issues are important for the reader to make an informed decision.

  • Gordon

    Oh I forgot to mention. I confirmed with Dr. Ian Billinghurst, a qualified and practicing Vet with Honours. It is Ok to feed raw to dogs with compromised immunities. It requires the correct balance between certain and advice is given on a case by case basis. It is by far better to feed such dogs their natural diet with modifications and is still better than feeding even the better quality grain free kibbles that no matter how one looks at it, are still extruded and processed. :)

  • Gordon

    Ummm, yes I guess I am promoting the BARF diet. It is the evolutionary diet chosen by all mighty Nature, so I’m just agreeing with Nature, and the fact that it does wonders for my dogs as it has done with my dad’s farm based BARF diets back in his day.

    Nothing wrong with that at all. Nor could I have been seen as combative in any way. So I hope that “combative” comment is not involving me in anyway, as my comments are proof in the pudding. I was very factual, objective, unbiased and civil in my secular debating. :) My comments are public and proof of this. :)

    Otherwise, I have no affiliation with BARF in any way. Nor am I nation-biased in anyway. For example, whilst I think Russell Crowe is a very talented actor, My favourite actors all time are 1. Robert DeNiro, 2. Al Pacino, 3. Gene Hackman, 4. Robin Williams, and 5. Denzel Washington. All hapen to be US citizens.

    I’m agenda free and base my views on unbiased facts as much as possible. :)

    Dawn – Why do you miss me? I feel honoured and humbled.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Sandi… I share your disappointment with the combative nature of some of the participants on our website. Unfortunately, DFA is not a “forum”. Forums usually require ‘membership”. And the moderator is able to control the conversation.

    On the other hand, this website is structured as a blog that’s open to anyone to express their opinion anonymously. And unless an individual abuses their privilege through profanity or fraudulent behavior, I try not to control what folks say.

    Sandi… your comments here have been very interesting. And I’ve personally enjoyed reading them. Sandi, you have every right to express your opinion. And to mention your book. I hope in the future everyone will try to be more tolerant of the views of others. Please feel free to return in the future.

  • http://www.whosyourvet.com Sandi

    I never fed Flint River but I too was getting mad reading your members attack approach. I do not know Dawn/Sondra but speaking from my previous experience with some of your members, I no longer want to be part of posting my info on your board.

    “that you could be wanting to just promote your book here as the be all end all”.

    I have been posting info for years on various forums way before my book. I find it insulting, not surprised though, after analyzing their posts to others. My nature is to help people and pets to stay healthy with accurate info. If I can pass along an article or info to achieve that, I’m more than happy to do so.

    Dr. Becker has Swinn as her moderator who is very knowledgeable and if she doesn’t know the answer, she will research it and get back to the person with an accurate answer. Dr. Becker trusts her to run the board because of her knowledge even though Swinn is not a Vet or nutritionist.

    I assumed two of your members were your moderators since they pretty much dominate the board. I asked what their background is – they aren’t a Vet or nutritionist. They seem to think it’s ok to feed raw to a dog with a compromised immune system. People tend to believe what they read on these boards. I explained my holistic Vets, nutritionists, & gave them a raw food website stating the same info, yet they continue to promote raw feeding without any proof it is safe. If what I’m saying is incorrect, please correct me with proof. It’s not my opinion. I don’t have a problem with anyone’s choice in feeding raw food or raw milk, it has it’s benefits, but also has it’s risks, which isn’t ringing clear. Seems some people tend to get defensive.

    One member posted: “I’ve tried MANY differnet holistic foods and this is actually the only one that my pets had no digestive upset while switching to”.

    I know exactly the brands she is referring to. If she stated “commercial foods,” I think of Purina, Beneful, etc.
    When I said “holistic” is better than “commercial,” I assumed your members knew which brands I was referring to and really didn’t need the definition of holistic & commercial as they took the time to post the meaning from the dictionary. Yes, both are sold to the public in a commercial fashion – give me a break!!! Most holistic brands are not sold in Big Box, although they are getting better knowing people are demanding better ingredients and willing to spend $ on it.

    The previous conversations started on:

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/brothers-complete-grain-free-dog-food/comment-page-4/#comments

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-industry-exposed/pennys-tragic-story/

    I believe this website was created as a guide for us to choose the best kibble or raw that works for our lifestyle and well being for our pets. The ratings can probably be different on another website. I would like to read the pros and cons from people using a particular brand so that we may make an informative decision when looking for a kibble or raw food.

    Use the “attacks” & questions on pet food manufacturers, FDA, etc and make a difference instead of being combative to people here. Without a voice, there is no change – use your energy in a productive way!

    I don’t have a problem with manufacturers or reps promoting their products on this website. Question them about their products in a respectful fashion. Sounds like Gordon is promoting the BARF diet – it’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it. I don’t have a problem with that.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Sondra Dowd and Dawn Leder… After studying your numerous and textually repetitive remarks left overnight in support of Flint River Ranch products, it seems likely you’re using The Dog Food Advisor as a means to advance this brand for either personal financial gain or to promote some unknown agenda.

    In any case, it’s apparent to me you’re either working together with deceptive intent (or as a fraudulent individual using multiple identities) from the same computer IP address.

    Because you may have abused your privilege to participate on my website, your future comments will now be moderated prior to posting.

    Many of your duplicate comments have been deleted.

  • SONDRA DOWD

    Flint River Ranch All-Natural Ingredients

    All-Natural Preservatives
    Quality ingredients provide the nutrition necessary for a pet’s healthy well-being, and help the pet’s body holistically heal itself.

    All of our formulas are made from the highest quality ingredients and do not contain meat or grain by-products, color additives, or synthetic preservatives (BHA, Ethoxyquin, or BHT). The food is naturally preserved with mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamins E and C). Some authorities indicate that Vitamin C is not required; however, we feel it is very important in supporting vitamin balance and to help handle daily stress and environmental pollution.

    MEAL:
    Meal refers to a substance reduced in size. The flesh is cooked, some water removed, and reduced in size (ground) in order for a uniform mix of the meat, ground grains, vitamins, and chelated minerals. There are no rendered by-products, feet, heads, intestines, or other meat products not fit for human consumption in Flint River Ranch products.

    GRAIN
    Wheat and Rice. Whole wheat and selected parts of the wheat berry are used as our base grain. Wheat is not only more digestible than corn, it is one of the most nutritionally balanced cereal grains. It is an easy-to-digest source of carbohydrates, fiber, and energy. A combination of grains, like a combination of meats, is better than just one source. Low-quality fillers like wood fiber, corn cobs, peanut hulls, cottonseed, straw, soy beans, or citrus pulp are never found in Flint River Ranch products.

    SOURCE OF GRAINS:
    Grains are purchased from major commercial suppliers like General Mills—fully tested and retested when received. This testing ensures the very best quality and reduces the possibility of toxic molds. Grain is cheaper when purchased direct from the farm; however, the risk of toxic mold is greater.

    RICE: A combination of brown and white rice—the white rice for digestibility and the brown for its added nutritional value. A diet product that is 100% brown rice can be somewhat hard for some animals to digest.

    WHEAT: Wheat flour is a fine-ground whole wheat grain. A coarse-ground whole wheat is also added for texture, along with a quality wheat berry.

    CORN: Corn is an excellent grain; however, it is more difficult to digest than rice, either by humans or dogs. Therefore, corn is not used as an ingredient in our dog food. The feline digestive system uses corn better, and corn supplies important dietary benefits to cats and kittens. Corn is included in the feline formulas.

    MEAT
    Chicken meat is our base meat source, with the addition of lamb and a small amount of fish. There are no rendered by-products, intestines, heads, feet, or feathers in our formulas. The amino acids provided by the meats are the basic building blocks of muscle, skin, coat, bone, blood, and the immune system.

    ORGANIC CHICKEN: It is possible to put one organic chicken in 50 tons of food and legally say we use organic, range-fed chicken. Some manufacturers take this option. While we purchase as much organic chicken as possible, we prefer to more correctly say we use human-quality chicken that is purchased from American sources and certified hormone and antibiotic free. Like all of our ingredients, we pay a premium price for the very best available. Chicken meat provides essential amino and fatty acids.

    LAMB: Lamb is range fed.

    FISH: We use Menhaden Fish, a herring-like fish found along the North Atlantic coast of the United States. The flesh is an excellent source of menhaden oil for coat and skin. Fish is a prime source of a complete protein and includes all the essential amino acids. It is rich in unsaturated fats (Omega-3 fatty acids), Vitamins A, K, and E, and also contains iodine, calcium, phosphorus, iron, potassium, copper, and fluoride.

    NUTRIENTS
    The secret to Flint River Ranch’s great nutrition is how many nutrients are present in the pet food and how efficiently they are used when digested.

    VITAMINS AND MINERALS: Our minerals are chelated, which means that they are bonded with amino acids, the constituents of protein. A chelated mineral is in a state that allows easy passage through the intestinal wall into the blood stream, which results in increased metabolic absorption of that mineral. Our products are preserved with a combination of mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E) and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). No harmful chemicals are used.

    FLAX: The different proteins in flax provide a high proportion base of unsaturated, essential fatty acids and dietary fiber. Flax is recognized for its potential in reducing the risk of some chronic diseases as well as improving the thickness and sheen of the hair and coat. It provides a great benefit to oven-baked food by resisting oxidation from the baking process and improving product shelf life.

    LECITHIN: Lecithin protects cells from damage caused by oxidation. Lecithin is largely composed of choline, with linoleic acid and inositol.

    COPPER AND IRON: A deficiency of iron causes nutritional anemia. A small amount of copper will improve the body’s use of iron.

    PROTEINS: Proteins are organic chemical compounds and a major component of the structure of all living organisms. Protein functions to build and repair body structure. A good pet food should contain highly digestible protein sources that provide the essential amino acids in adequate amounts. Digestible food protein from several sources is more desirable than protein from only one source.

    CARBOHYDRATES: Carbohydrates serve primarily as an energy source while giving bulk to the diet. Plant material is made up of a high percentage of carbohydrates.

    FATS: Fats are complex molecules that are broken down by the digestive system into smaller molecules known as fatty acids. Fat is a concentrated source of energy and works toward making hormones, skin and coat oils, membranes, and parts of body cells. Fats also aid in the transport of nutrients, regulate stomach emptying, and increase palatability of foods.

    ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS: α-Linolenic Acid (Omega-3) and Linoleic Acid (Omega-6) are important for the synthesis of hormones and for healthy skin.

    ALL-NATURAL PRESERVATIVES
    Our products are preserved with a combination of mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E) and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). Rosemary is also used. No harmful chemicals are used.

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  • DAWN LEDER

    Flint River Ranch All-Natural Ingredients

    All-Natural Preservatives
    Quality ingredients provide the nutrition necessary for a pet’s healthy well-being, and help the pet’s body holistically heal itself.

    All of our formulas are made from the highest quality ingredients and do not contain meat or grain by-products, color additives, or synthetic preservatives (BHA, Ethoxyquin, or BHT). The food is naturally preserved with mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamins E and C). Some authorities indicate that Vitamin C is not required; however, we feel it is very important in supporting vitamin balance and to help handle daily stress and environmental pollution.

    MEAL:
    Meal refers to a substance reduced in size. The flesh is cooked, some water removed, and reduced in size (ground) in order for a uniform mix of the meat, ground grains, vitamins, and chelated minerals. There are no rendered by-products, feet, heads, intestines, or other meat products not fit for human consumption in Flint River Ranch products.

    GRAIN
    Wheat and Rice. Whole wheat and selected parts of the wheat berry are used as our base grain. Wheat is not only more digestible than corn, it is one of the most nutritionally balanced cereal grains. It is an easy-to-digest source of carbohydrates, fiber, and energy. A combination of grains, like a combination of meats, is better than just one source. Low-quality fillers like wood fiber, corn cobs, peanut hulls, cottonseed, straw, soy beans, or citrus pulp are never found in Flint River Ranch products.

    SOURCE OF GRAINS:
    Grains are purchased from major commercial suppliers like General Mills—fully tested and retested when received. This testing ensures the very best quality and reduces the possibility of toxic molds. Grain is cheaper when purchased direct from the farm; however, the risk of toxic mold is greater.

    RICE: A combination of brown and white rice—the white rice for digestibility and the brown for its added nutritional value. A diet product that is 100% brown rice can be somewhat hard for some animals to digest.

    WHEAT: Wheat flour is a fine-ground whole wheat grain. A coarse-ground whole wheat is also added for texture, along with a quality wheat berry.

    CORN: Corn is an excellent grain; however, it is more difficult to digest than rice, either by humans or dogs. Therefore, corn is not used as an ingredient in our dog food. The feline digestive system uses corn better, and corn supplies important dietary benefits to cats and kittens. Corn is included in the feline formulas.

    MEAT
    Chicken meat is our base meat source, with the addition of lamb and a small amount of fish. There are no rendered by-products, intestines, heads, feet, or feathers in our formulas. The amino acids provided by the meats are the basic building blocks of muscle, skin, coat, bone, blood, and the immune system.

    ORGANIC CHICKEN: It is possible to put one organic chicken in 50 tons of food and legally say we use organic, range-fed chicken. Some manufacturers take this option. While we purchase as much organic chicken as possible, we prefer to more correctly say we use human-quality chicken that is purchased from American sources and certified hormone and antibiotic free. Like all of our ingredients, we pay a premium price for the very best available. Chicken meat provides essential amino and fatty acids.

    LAMB: Lamb is range fed.

    FISH: We use Menhaden Fish, a herring-like fish found along the North Atlantic coast of the United States. The flesh is an excellent source of menhaden oil for coat and skin. Fish is a prime source of a complete protein and includes all the essential amino acids. It is rich in unsaturated fats (Omega-3 fatty acids), Vitamins A, K, and E, and also contains iodine, calcium, phosphorus, iron, potassium, copper, and fluoride.

    NUTRIENTS
    The secret to Flint River Ranch’s great nutrition is how many nutrients are present in the pet food and how efficiently they are used when digested.

    VITAMINS AND MINERALS: Our minerals are chelated, which means that they are bonded with amino acids, the constituents of protein. A chelated mineral is in a state that allows easy passage through the intestinal wall into the blood stream, which results in increased metabolic absorption of that mineral. Our products are preserved with a combination of mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E) and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). No harmful chemicals are used.

    FLAX: The different proteins in flax provide a high proportion base of unsaturated, essential fatty acids and dietary fiber. Flax is recognized for its potential in reducing the risk of some chronic diseases as well as improving the thickness and sheen of the hair and coat. It provides a great benefit to oven-baked food by resisting oxidation from the baking process and improving product shelf life.

    LECITHIN: Lecithin protects cells from damage caused by oxidation. Lecithin is largely composed of choline, with linoleic acid and inositol.

    COPPER AND IRON: A deficiency of iron causes nutritional anemia. A small amount of copper will improve the body’s use of iron.

    PROTEINS: Proteins are organic chemical compounds and a major component of the structure of all living organisms. Protein functions to build and repair body structure. A good pet food should contain highly digestible protein sources that provide the essential amino acids in adequate amounts. Digestible food protein from several sources is more desirable than protein from only one source.

    CARBOHYDRATES: Carbohydrates serve primarily as an energy source while giving bulk to the diet. Plant material is made up of a high percentage of carbohydrates.

    FATS: Fats are complex molecules that are broken down by the digestive system into smaller molecules known as fatty acids. Fat is a concentrated source of energy and works toward making hormones, skin and coat oils, membranes, and parts of body cells. Fats also aid in the transport of nutrients, regulate stomach emptying, and increase palatability of foods.

    ESSENTIAL FATTY ACIDS: α-Linolenic Acid (Omega-3) and Linoleic Acid (Omega-6) are important for the synthesis of hormones and for healthy skin.

    ALL-NATURAL PRESERVATIVES
    Our products are preserved with a combination of mixed Tocopherols (Vitamin E) and Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C). Rosemary is also used. No harmful chemicals are used.

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  • DAWN LEDER

    Hi Dawn,

    Thank you for your inquiry about becoming a distributor of Flint River Ranch Pet Foods.

    It is free to join as a distributor with a $35.00 yearly renewal due 1 year from sign up. The only requirement is that you must purchase at least 100pv worth of product on your personal account each month in order to receive 19% commission on personal and first level customer orders. Each product is assigned a “PV” amount that is almost equivalent to size of bag. (pound size) For example, 1 x DOG20 (20 lbs of kibble) is 20 PV points, 1 x DOG40 (40 lbs of kibble) is 39 PV points and 1 x CAT40 is 70 PV points. (The cat food is more expensive per pound.) 100 PV points monthly will get you the 19% commission.

    The food can be recommended and sold by you person to person to friends and family, in a retail environment, virtually thru the internet or all of the above, giving you the options and flexibility required to earn enough commission to pay for your pets food or work a full time business depending on your personal abilities and/or desire. As a distributor you actually get a free replicated web site and access to the “extranet” for placing personal orders and customer reorders. Your replicated site would look like this http://www.frrco.com/hr30 with the exception of the address having your distributor account number instead of mine. You will receive more info on those features as soon as an application is received.

    All you need to do is fill out and mail in the application and W9 form I have attached by postal mail to the following address.

    Address:
    Flint River Ranch
    245 Hembree Park Drive Suite 110
    Roswell, GA 30076

    If you have any specific questions, I would be happy to answer. You might also want to look at our Frequently Asked Questions page at http://www.f-r-r.com/faqh.htm for specific product information.

    In response to your concern about wheat as an ingredient, wheat is a far better grain to digest than corn or soybean, and using a combination of different forms of grain-ground wheat, wheat flour, wheat germ meal, and ground rice is better than using just one grain. Humans, as well as pets, have certain foods they should not eat. While a wheat base is acceptable to most dogs, it is up to each pet owner to make this determination. Occasionally wheat will be an allergen to some dogs. For this reason we offer the Lamb Millet and Rice, the Trout and Potato and the Duck and Oatmeal formulas. None of these foods are completely grain free but contain whole grains that are not typically associated with allergies. We purchase the grains for our dog food recipe from General Mills and Pillsbury, not directly from the farm. The cost is greater; however, we are insured of receiving the finest quality for our healthy dog food without the risk of mold or other harmful toxins.

    Sincerely,

    Cliff – PH # 877-410-0152
    _________________________

    Flint River Ranch Super Premium Holistic Pet Food
    http://www.f-r-r.com/
    http://www.healthypetzone.com
    Your Flint River Ranch Distributor #122140
    877-410-0152

    The June 23rd issue of the Wall Street Journal calls Direct Selling “the Ultimate Social Business Model”. With over $125 billion in revenue now is prime time for Direct Selling with over 7;5 million men and women worldwide changing their lives by sharing information and serving others.

    It may surprise a number of people that the Direct Selling model is over 150 years old and besides Flint River Ranch, it includes such companies as Avon Products, Herbalife, Tupperware, Nu Skin, Primerica, Telecom Plus, Ignite (energy), Mary Kay, Jafra, Vorwerk & Company, Forever Living, The Pampered Chef (Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway), Nature’s Sunshine, Kirby, Regal Ware and thousands of others.

    Products delivered directly to customers through personalized presentations have enabled direct selling to thrive through recessions. Professor Paul Zane Pilzer, the renowned economist who served in two White House administrations notes that direct selling may be the answer to the shrinking job market. The challenge is to replace jobs with earning opportunities. This makes home-based business and direct selling very appealing.

    “Mad Money” market guru Jim Cramer recently told his CNBC viewers: It’s time we recognize that the direct sales model works and it works well. Financial notables like Cramer, Warren Buffett, Ray Chambers and Suze Orman have touted businesses based on direct selling.

    In direct selling, individuals share information directly to the customer. Individuals own their own home-based business as independent contractors, with the support of a parent company. Participants are in complete control of how they invest their time and how they go about building their business. The compensation model offered allows the building of organizations that have the potential to create long-term residual income.

    The potential income is available and directly related to each individual’s efforts. Like all endeavors it requires dedicated work. Before the technical tools and the Internet were available, strong personal customer relationships were built; an important factor in any business growth. Today’s tools and Internet access provide the ability to connect to a wider market; however, by only depending upon the Internet, the important social interaction is lost and your site presentation becomes one of many. The person who is instrumental in developing personal relationships and following up with their customers have the strongest customer bond and continued business growth. Waiting for someone to respond to an Internet site, or allowing the parent company to handle customer relationship issues, will often erode the potential for growth as the potential customer may have very little loyalty to that participant.

    The Flint River Ranch business opportunity attracts all types of individuals. From those who provide full time dedicated efforts; to include pet medical professionals, retail stores, groomers and kennels to individuals working part time for a little extra family income. With today’s food costs, it is hard enough to feed the human family without the added burden of our family companions. Many individuals have found that with a little dedicated effort they earn enough residual income to feed their pets a quality diet while reducing the family food budget. They do this by sharing information about Flint River Ranch premium pet food products with friends and neighbors. It is fun to be involved with the health and lifestyle of our family companions.

    BUYING FROM THIS COMPANY IS NO DIFF FROM THE MILLIONS WHO BUY THEIR PRECIOUS PETS THEIR FOOD FROM PETCO..PETSMART OR OFF THE INTERNET OR AT AMAZON (AMAZON SELLS FLINT RIVER RANCH A MAJOR MAJOR RETAIL SITE THE BIGGEST ONLINE…I..TRUST..AMAZON WHOLE HEARTILY! DOGGIEFOOD.COM ANOTHER MAJOR PET FOOD SELLER WITH VERY HIGH RATINGS(ON THEIR SITE THEY SAY THEY ONLY SELL HIGH END FOOD) ALSO SELL THIS FOOD…THE ONLY DIFF IS THAT..YOU…(NOT YOU YOU …BUT I MEAN ANYONE OUT THERE) CAN MAKE IT YOUR OWN BUSINESS SELL YOURSELF AND NEVER HAVE TO PAY A PENNY TO ANYONE ELSE…FOR YOUR OWN DOG FOOD…YOU PAY YOURSELF FOR YOUR DOG FOOD… AGAIN BY SELLING IT…LIKE ALLL THE AVON WOMEN ALL THE MARY KAY WOMEN AND THE TUPPERWARE WOMEN WHO ARE MAKING MEGA BUCKS FROM SELLING VERY WELL KNOWN …GREAT…PRODUCTS!… I ALSO GIVE MY GIRLS RAW AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO WITH THIS FOOD…LIKE EVERY OTHER ANIMAL LOVER AND CARE TAKER SHOULD BE DOING… ALWAYS.. GIVING ALONG WITH ALL… EVEN 5 STAR RATED CANNED OR DRY DOG FOODS….GIVE FRESH VEGETABLES FRESH NICE RAW MEAT OR EVEN LIGHTLY BROILED OR STEAMED VEGGIES AND MEAT…I WOULD NEVER EVER RELY ON JUST YUKKY CANNED…OR..JUST KIBBLE FOR MY PRECIOUS COMPANIONS!
    MIKE ARE YOU SAYING ALL YOUR 3 STAR FOODS ARE BAD? AS YOU ARE ABOUT FLINT RIVER RANCH? :0/ I HEARD MANY MANY BAD THINGS HAPPENING ….MANY RECALLS FROM 5 STARS FOODS ON HERE …. AND OTHER DOG FOOD REVIEWERS…5 STAR DOESNT MEAN ITS COMES WITH NO PROBLEMS :o ) (NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD 5 STAR CANS/DRY) WHY GIVING A 3 STAR AND SUPPLYING YOUR OWN GOOD FRESH FOODS ALONG WITH IT…. IS JUST AS GOOD :o ) (FLINT IS HERE IS RATED 3 STARS…BUT…NEVER SINCE ITS BEEN OUT (1993) HAS HAD..ONE..SINGLE RECALL…LIKE MANY 5 STAR FOODS HAVE
    GOODBYE TO ALL… I WILL NOT BE READING ANYMORE PUT DOWNS…. BULLYING …FOOD BASHING …PEOPLE BASHING…. SITES ANYMORE.. I JUST LOST MY 32 YR OLD PRECIOUS DAUGHTER AND 7 MOS LATER HAD MY LEG AMPUTATED AND MY HUSBAND GOT LAID OFF OF HIS 28 YR JOB A FEW MOS AGO….AND WE’RE LOSING OUR HOME..I HAVE ENOUGH NEGATIVES IN MY LIFE TO LAST A LIFE TIME..THEN TO COME TO LOOK UP DOG FOOD AND GET YELLED AT & GET NASTY COMEBACKS..I DO NOT NEED….IT WAS GREAT HERE FOR AWHILE :o )
    HMMM I BET THIS POST WONT EVEN GET POSTED..BUT I WILL NEVER KNOW :o ) LOVE TO ALL AND TO ALL GOOD NITE
    P.S. I WILL MISS YOU GORDON……TAKE CARE AND IM GOING TO TAKE YOU UP ON HOW …YOU…FEED YOUR BABY ITS RAW MEATY BONES GREAT IDEA :o )

  • SONDRA DOWD

    I…..AM…. N O T A FRR REP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    SO WOW YOURSELF!
    WHY ARE YOU…NOT…SAYING THAT..TO BILL K WHOSE BEEN RANTING AND RAGING?? HES THE ONLY ONE DOING SO?? EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN CALM AND COLLECTIVE AND NICE….EXCEPT HIM! BASHING A POOR WOMAN ABOUT THIS FOOD HE COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT!!!!!
    AND THEN THERES YOU….WHO POPS IN OUT OF NOWHERE TO BLAST…ME??? WHO WAS TELLING SUSAN TO STOP GETTING HERSELF BASHED BY SOMEONE WHO DOESNT EVEN WANT TO USE THE FOOD. I FELT BAD FOR HER..AND TO SAY HOW UPSET I AM BECAUSE I USE TO LOOOVE TO TO COME TO MIKES SITE..NOW EVERY PRODUCT I GO AND LOOK UP NO MATTER WHAT FOOD THERES PEOPLE SCARING EVERYONE ABOUT…HERESAY!!! STATING THINGS THEY DONT EVEN KNOW IS TRUE/FALSE JUST TO COME AND BASH! THATS NOT WHAT THIS SITE WAS FOR (OR SO I THOUGHT) I GO TO FROMM THERES PEOPLE SCARIJG EVERYONE ABOUT INGREDIANTS THAT ARE NOT EVEN IN THE FOOD ANYMORE (AGAIN ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS WRITE CALL READ THE BAGS FOR THE INFO INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING ABOUT THINGS NOT EVEN TRUE…BUT SCARED PEOPLE AWAY…I GO TO BLUE BUFFALO AND THEYRE CARRYING ON THAT THE COMPANY “WARNED” THEM NOT TO TELL ANYONE WHAT THEY WROTE!! C’MON WHY WOULD A HUGE VERY POPULAR COMPANY SAY SUCH A THING? I COME LOOK UP FLINT RIVER AND GET 2 PAGES OF RANTING AND RAGING TO AN INNOCENT WOMAN BEING VERY CALM…SHES NOT MR FLINT OR MRS FLINT RIVER RANCH!! YOU OR ANYONE ELSE NEVER EVER SKIPPED AN EMAIL AND NEVER GOT BACK TO SOMEONE WHO WROTE YOU? YOU THINK YOUR “THE” ONLY EMAIL COMING IN?? YOU GAVE ONE TRY AND GAVE UP?AND THEN…BLAMED SUSAN THAT THEY DIDNT RESPOND IN 24HRS! ALL THE QUESTIONS BILL WAS RAVING ABOUT I FOUND OUT EVERY ANSWER! BY…RESEARCHING –LOOKING UP– READING EVERY WORD ON THEIR WEBSITE— CALLED –EMAILED THATS WHAT BUYERS ARE TO DO NO MATTER WHAT..HE JUST WANTED TO BE RIGHT AND TAKE IT OUT ON AN INNOCENT PERSON WHICH RUINED IT FOR ME AND IM SURE MANY MANY OTHERS…WHO..JUST CAME..TO MIKES…SITE FOR INFO ON DIFF FOODS TO FEED THEIR DOGS NOT GET INTO TO CHILDISH RANTING….
    I WILL NOW GO ELSEWHERE TO LOOK UP INFO ON DOG FOOD TO GET…JUST…THE INFO..(OF …EACH..PRODUCT THE COMPANY MAKES NOT JUST ONE THE..ONLY..ONE…THAT CONAINED WHEAT…. INSTEAD OF ATTACKS!! I CANT EVEN COUNT HOW MANY..HUNDREDS I TOLD ABOUT THIS SITE…NOW I FEEL GUILTY I SENT THEM TO A PLACE THAT HAS HIGH SCHOOL CHILDISH BULLYING!
    ITS NUTS! YEH YEH I KNOW…I USED CAPS… I HAPPEN TO LIKE CAPS MUCH EASIER TO READ :o )

  • Mike P

    Sandra . sorry Sondra … I have never seen anyone on this site so touchy as you FRR reps . Wow