Castor and Pollux Organix (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★½

Castor and Pollux Organix Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4.5 stars.

The Castor and Pollux Organix product line includes four dry dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

  • Castor and Pollux Organix Puppy Recipe [G]
  • Castor and Pollux Organix Large Breed Recipe [M]
  • Castor and Pollux Organix Healthy Weight Recipe [M]
  • Castor and Pollux Organix Chicken and Brown Rice [M]

Castor and Pollux Organix Large Breed Recipe was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Castor and Pollux Organix Large Breed Recipe

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 30% | Fat = 16% | Carbs = 46%

Ingredients: Organic chicken, chicken meal, organic peas, organic barley, organic brown rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), organic millet, organic pea protein, organic flaxseed, natural flavor, dried egg product, salmon meal, minerals (zinc amino acid complex, iron amino acid complex, copper amino acid complex, manganese amino acid complex, sodium selenite, calcium iodate), vitamins (vitamin E supplement, niacin, thiamine mononitrate, d-calcium pantothenate, vitamin A acetate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, riboflavin supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement, folic acid), salt, choline chloride, potassium chloride, organic carrots, organic apples, organic broccoli, organic pumpkin, organic pears, dried yeast culture, dried Bacillus coagulans fermentation product, rosemary extract

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 5.6%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis27%14%NA
Dry Matter Basis30%16%46%
Calorie Weighted Basis26%33%41%
Protein = 26% | Fat = 33% | Carbs = 41%

The first ingredient in this dog food is organic chicken. Although it is a quality item, raw chicken contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is chicken meal. Chicken meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh chicken.

The third ingredient includes organic peas. Peas are a quality source of carbohydrates. And like all legumes, they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, peas contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient is organic barley. Barley is a starchy carbohydrate supplying fiber and other healthy nutrients. However, aside from its energy content, this cereal grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The fifth ingredient is organic brown rice, a complex carbohydrate that (once cooked) can be fairly easy to digest. However, aside from its natural energy content, rice is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The seventh ingredient is organic millet, a gluten-free grain harvested from certain seed grasses. Millet is hypoallergenic and naturally rich in B-vitamins and fiber as well as other essential minerals.

The eighth ingredient includes organic pea protein, what remains of a pea after removing the starchy part of the vegetable.

Even though it contains over 80% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat.

And less costly plant-based products like this can notably boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The ninth ingredient is organic flaxseed, one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, we find salmon meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

Fish meal is typically obtained from the “clean, dried, ground tissue of undecomposed whole fish and fish cuttings” of commercial fish operations.1

Next, we note the inclusion of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

And lastly, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

Castor and Pollux Organix Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Since this recipe contains a number of organic ingredients, we feel compelled to grant this line a more favorable status as we consider its final rating.

That’s because organic ingredients must comply with notably more stringent government standards — standards which significantly restrict the use of any synthetic pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, hormones or antibiotics.

With that in mind…

Judging by its ingredients alone, Castor and Pollux Organix Dog Food looks like an above-average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 30%, a fat level of 16% and estimated carbohydrates of about 46%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 29% and a mean fat level of 14%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 48% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 48%.

Near-average protein. Below-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

When you consider the protein-boosting effect of the pea products and flaxseed, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Castor and Pollux Organix is a plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of chicken meal as its main source of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4.5 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Those looking for a wet product from the same company may wish to visit our review of Castor and Pollux Organix canned dog food.

Castor and Pollux Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

05/08/2016 Last Update

  1. Association of American Feed Control Officials
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  • Hound Dog Mom

    I used to use Nature’s Logic canned – it’s a great food. I’d highly recommend it.

  • InkedMarie

    I’ve been thinking about looking for a canned food to add to Gemmas raw (still having a hard time getting her to poop even with almost all boneless raw), sounds like Natures Logic is one to look at!

  • Buyyaclue

    Thanks Betsy, I’ll look in to the Natures Logic. Sounds like it is just what I’m looking for.

  • Hi Buyaclue,

    One of my favorite kibbled and canned diets is made with whole food ingredients and has no synthetic vitamins or minerals added; and it has no ingredients from China. I feel good about feeding it to my dogs and they both love it. Nature’s Logic also happens to be made in the USA by trusted manufacturers as well. I confidently recommend it!

  • Buyyaclue

    JenofLA,
    Thanks for the update. I am a bit bummed out that once I find a food I like they inevitably get bought out by a larger company and then they start cutting costs by importing ingredients, etc.It’s “all about the money”.. I know. Castor and Pollux is already VERY expensive and the reason for that is their dog food is organic with ingredients coming from the USA. It was very important to me because we have a USDA that is being closely watched because of GMO. How can we assure there are no GMO’s in ingredients from other countries and that they are organic to US standards? I no longer feel confident that Castor and Pollux will be worth the money now that it is being made in Merrick facilities. 🙁

  • InkedMarie

    I believe that dogs can come fom a vary of places. If one wants a purebred puppy, that’s great, as long as the breeder is reputable.
    Also, if people spayed and neutered, we wouldn’t have to worry about so many animals needing to be adopted.

  • kelpi

    I agree, but maybe this person is just against breeders due to the excess of unscrupulous/tortuous breeders and shelter animals. I believe that people should ADOPT – NOT SHOP.

  • petCurean small breed comes in little tiny x shapes. We were very impressed with the ease of chewing that shape. It is designed specifically for small mouths

  • Pattyvaughn

    Only a guess, they got some turkey cheap.

  • our recent bag of organix has poultry fat poultry meal rather than chicken specifically now. Why did they dump a named meal for an unnamed one?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Gas is due to how your individual dog digests the particular food. Try adding digestive enzymes especially when you are switching foods and for a couple weeks after.

  • Jackie

    I just switched my dog from blue buffalo fish and sweet potato to castor and pollux organix chicken… The vet said that her protein kidney levels were too high and to put her on a low protein diet (her levels went high probably because we fed her doggy birthday cake a week or so ago). He also said that fish has more protein than chicken so I decided to switch her food entirely… Blue buffalo gave her gas and she seems to be doing okay with the C&P kibble (minus the runny stools). I am just worried about the citric acid that is in C&P kibble. I have heard that citric acid causes bloat. My dog just had surgery to remove a benign tumor on top of her eyebrow and I do not want her food to cause her any health complications. She needs to drink lots of water to flush out her kidneys (and she is on medication for pain and on antibiotics from the surgery) and I have read that you should not give water during meals (especially meals that contain the citric acid). Does anyone know how risky it is to give water while eating the C&P kibble? She is a boxer/german shepherd mix, weighs approx 45 pounds, female, and has a deep chest and small waist.
    I would like to keep her on organic food that is human grade. Any suggestions on water intake with C&P or a different brand of food (that doesn;t cause gas) would be much appreciated. Thank you.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Tiger –

    There are three types of vitamin k: k1, k2 and k3. Vitamin k1 can come in the natural form of phylloquinone which is found in leafy greens or the synthetic form of phytonadione. Vitamin k2 is known as menaquinones (MKs) and can be found in some meats and dairy products and is produced by bacteria in the gut. Vitamin k3, known as menadione, is the controversial, synthetic version of vitamin k.

    According to the Linus Paulding Institute at Oregon State University:

    “Although allergic reaction is possible, there is no known toxicity associated with high doses of the phylloquinone (vitamin K1) or menaquinone (vitamin K2) forms of vitamin K. The same is not true for synthetic menadione (vitamin K3) and its derivatives. Menadione can interfere with the function of glutathione, one of the body’s natural antioxidants, resulting in oxidative damage to cell membranes. Menadione given by injection has induced liver toxicity, jaundice, and hemolytic anemia (due to the rupture of red blood cells) in infants; therefore, menadione is no longer used for treatment of vitamin K deficiency. No tolerable upper level (UL) of intake has been established for vitamin K.”

    Looking at the ingredients list for the Castor and Pollux products it can be seen that there is no vitamin k supplement added – so the food does not contain the controversial, synthetic k3 form of vitamin k. If you requested a detailed nutritional analysis of the food and a very small amount of vitamin k was listed, this is naturally occurring vitamin k in the form of phylloquinone or menaquinone. The detailed nutritional analyses that companies provide are the results of a lab analysis of their food – so it includes the nutrients that are actually present in the end product and the quantities they are present in (both added nutrients and naturally occurring nutrients).

  • And you can try moistening the kibble with some warm water to soften it.

  • Bronwyn in Nepal

    Thank you Losul, this is helpful! I’m out of the Purina (and loathe to buy another bag), but I’ll cook up some plain rice to mix with the organix, and see if that helps. If all goes well I’ll try weaning him off the extra rice over a much longer period of time.

  • losul

    Hi Bronwyn, There might not be anything wrong with the Organix puppy food, unless it’s old,stale, or rancid. I don’t know availabilty/ freshness/shipping of products in Nepal, but keep in my mind, that the puppy was used to living on trash and plain rice. The Purina puppy chow is alot more similar to what he was used to, than higher grade dog foods. Whatever you do, Try changing it real slowly to better grade.

  • Bronwyn in Nepal

    I switched to C&P organix when my normally iron-stomached 6 year old corgi mix developed a bad reaction to one of the big name grain free brands (and subsequently every other grain free brand I tried). She’s been great on it ever since (I do mix it up a bit, but the C&P is the staple), even when I recently switched to the weight management formula (she is 8 now, less active, and starting to get pudgy).
    When I got a new puppy (a Nepali street dog living on trash on the street and plain rice at the shelter) it was a no brainer to order the C&P organix puppy food. While waiting for it to arrive I was forced to feed Purina puppy chow (as obviously the weight management food is inappropriate for puppies) he did fine on it, but it was a relief when the “good stuff” arrived.

    To my horror though, ever since switching to the organix he has had runny stool and bad gas!! It takes two weeks to a month to get anything ordered, so even though I am researching other potential brands I need to do something in the interim. I used to cook for my older dog, but don’t like to do that here since the cost of buying enough meat to make a healthy diet equals more than most people’s monthly salary, and it just feels really inappropriate to feed to my dog what would feed practically a FAMILY. Kibble is more socially acceptable.

    Any suggestions for what to do to help the stool and gas problem? Anyone think I just got a bad bag and should try C&P again? I’ve really been so happy with the food my other dog eats, it was disappointing to not have both on it.

  • Erika

    Very welcome. Good luck!

  • Brinny

    Thank you! I will have to try it. It is very reasonably priced, too.

  • Erika

    Fromm has really small kibble. More like cat food sized than dog food sized.

  • Brinny

    Could anyone tell me what would be the best kibble for a small (5 lb) older Chihuahua She can’t seem to eat most of the kibble because her mouth is so tiny and her teeth are fragile. Someone didn’t take care of her as they should. :/
    We have tried TOTW, Blue Wilderness, 4Health, Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover’s Soul…

  • Tiger

    They list Vitamine K as an ingredient when asked, although in a small quantity … 0,006 mg/kg … still a 5 star product or one to stay away from, as you suggest with any dog food containing Vitamine K?

  • Tiger

    I requested a detailed listing of all ingredients in the Organix Puppy Food, and it included Vitamine K … 0,006% … since you recommend staying away from products containing Vitamine K, would you say that the quantity here is acceptable or should I stay away from it?

  • losul

    Shipping is free anyway under the subscribe and save program, and most stuff is free shipping (by choosing slower shipping) anyway, even if not subscribing, if over $25. No need need to pay $79 bucks a year for Amazon Prime just for a little faster shipping, IMO.

  • Lori

    My Giant Schnauzer, Standard Schnauzer and Mini Schnauzers thrive on this food. I have been using this food for years. I provide variety through toppings – sardines, whole canned salmon, veggie “smoothies”, and fruit smoothies. My dogs have been consistently healthy and satiated with this base kibble. This food can be purchased through Amazon’s Subscribe & Save program. They deliver to your door (with no shipping fee if you are an Amazon Prime Member).

  • Pattyvaughn

    Let’s not forget spelling.

  • JellyCat

    CHAR, if you want people to take you seriously, you should start using proper punctuation and stop writing in caps. Otherwise, it is very inconvenient and irritating to read.

  • CHAR

    I HAVE BEEN BREEDING DOGS FOR 40 YRS. DOGS LIKE PEOPLE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS, I USED ONE DOG FOOD FOR 15 YRS. THEN HAD TO CHANGE, NOW ANOTHER FOR 8 YRS. OUR INVIOMENT AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK THE INGREE. IN YOUR FOOD OFTEN TO SEE IF SOMETHING HAS CHANGED. I KEEP UP ON DIFFERENT BRANDS FOR MY PUPPY PEOPLE, BECAUSE SOME AREAS DON’T SELL CERTAIN BRANDS, I DON’T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO RESERCH, THATS MY JOB AS A BREEDER TO KEEP UP ON THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF MY PUPS.

  • CHAR

    I HAVE BEEN BREEDING DOGS FOR 40 YRS. IF YOU ARE A REPUTABLE BREEDER, AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE A SAY, I’VE TRIED LOTS OF DOG FOODS, NOT THE ONE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ONE THAT HAS WORKED FOR ME FOR YEARS, DOESN’T MEAN I DON’T KEEP UP ON WHAT THE OTHER BRANDS HAVE TO OFFER. SOMETIMES PEOPLE WHO BUY A PUP FROM ME CAN’T GET THE PRODUCT I USE, BUT I WANT TO SEND THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON QUALITY FOODS. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DIDN’T GO TO A GOOD BREEDER .

  • JenOfLA

    I have fed C&P Organix to my 2-year old collie for over a year now after MUCH research, and having to leave California Natural when they got bought by P&G. We LOVE this food and was so pleased with the company, but recently we’ve had a problem finding the Organix cookies, so I came here to see if there was any info and found all the very recent concerns so I wrote to them (regarding the cookies, kibble shape, ingredient sourcing and potential recipe change since the merging with Merrick.) This is the reply I received. I thought some of you might find it helpful:

    Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
    We currently are having shortages with the cookies due to raw materials and currently have no plans to discontinue them. At this time, this shortage is expected to last until March. We have
    not had any issues with the cookies or food. We have begun making the food in our own Merrick facilities now (thus change in kibble shape) however, the ingredients and recipes have not changed.

    Most of our ingredients come from the USA. However, there are times when we can only get certain ingredients from other countries like but not limited to Japan, Canada, or Germany. Early last year C&P joined the Merrick Pet Care family and as our food recipes transition to be made in Merrick facilities, we are committed that all of our ingredients like Merrick’s pet food will be China free.
    I am very sorry for the inconvenience this may have caused for you and your pet. I hope this helps.
    If there is anything further needed, please contact us again. Have a wonderful day!

  • Jermanda

    Yes, I am very pleased with how proactive they are. I will definitely relay any further information I get on this.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I never really thought it was a food rotation problem, those come on slowly and often appear to be some kind of allergy or your dog developes nasty dry hair or something. That’s why I said call the company and ask questions. In these circumstances, food rotation is really helpful though, because your dog is already used to switching foods, so suddenly switching doesn’t cause digestive upset. Also, if there is some ingredient that doesn’t agree with your dog, he isn’t on it day in and day out for years. Usually dog food companies tell you to stick with one food for life, that’s because they want to create customer loyalty, not because it’s what’s best for the dog. By the way, a healthy poodle should live a lot more than 14 years, we’ve come to accept shorter life spans for our dogs, just as we’ve accepted that we should feed kibble. The two go hand in hand. A large percentage of the immune response comes from the gut, feeding the same kibble limits the variety and population size of the healthy microflora in the gut, and that affects the immune system.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Glad to hear you’re being taken seriously on this. That tells you a lot about a company. Please let us know if they get back to you on what they find. That would say a whole lot more about the company.

  • Jermanda

    I called the company today. They wanted all of the information I had to offer about the situation and they are picking the food up at my doorstep today for testing. I was very pleased with the way the company handled it. However, I have been reading a little on food rotating and I don’t believe they are getting sick because I haven’t been rotating their food. If it were an issue wouldn’t this have happened long before the four year mark? I want to do more research because I do want to do what is best for my girls. Do you have any good sites to recommend to continue my reading on food rotation. My mom fed my childhood poodle the same food for 14 years with no issues so I never even thought to do this as I am a first time dog owner. I have switched them to acana and they are doing great with perfect stools! It was an overnight miracle!!

  • Jermanda

    Lisa – thank you for posting! I’m not glad this is happening to you and your dogs too but I am glad to know that I may not have to feel guilty for feeding the same food for four years(yikes!) I had no idea that people rotate dog food, I get the concept and am doing some of my own research on it. With that being said, I am still convinced that their is something wrong with the organix adult fry dog food. I called the company today and they are picking the food up at my door and having it sent out for testing. They said they will follow up with me on that. They are also reimbursing me for last 2 bags purchased. I asked them many questions about the new company and regulations and all answers were what I was hoping to hear and all seemed well but that doesn’t mean that mistakes can’t be made, right? If you want to call the company I suggest talking to Catherine. Her direct line is 8033222839. Also, look into acana dog food.

  • Pattyvaughn

    How can you say most show dogs are on this supplement? I’m sure that you don’t know most show people to have a clue what their dogs are on. The people I know who show aren’t on it. Oh wait! None of the rescue people I know give it to their dogs either. And I never gave it to my rescue dogs. Get real! I really hope you aren’t foolish enough to believe that line.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Not to mention Brewer’s Yeast is loaded with msg…

  • InkedMarie

    I would not do this. I have a dog with yeast issues and he cannot have brewers yeast, it makes his ears flare.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Lisa –

    As Bryan clarified – I clearly stated “I’m not saying this was the issue.” I also explained why feeding the same food continuously is bad for the digestive system. When you feed your dog the same food continuously and don’t rotate you end up in this situation – there’s a formula change that your dog is reacting to and you don’t know what to do. If you had been rotating foods 1) you would have other foods that you know your dog does well on to turn to 2) if the issues was one of contamination your dog would be less likely to be affected because it wouldn’t be on a contaminated food for an extended period of time.

  • Try giving your dog Brewers yeast tablets daily. Reputable line is on Foster and Smith’s website. It is in inactive yeast so doesn’t add to the problem. I had a foster who was soo yeasty in the ears. He scratched at his kin and smelled horrible from it. Put him on the Brewers yeast and it balanced out his system from the inside out, since it has a lot fo B vitamins. In one month his skin completely changed. His ears cleared up and the smell was gone and his coat became so clear and shiny. I swear by it and most show dogs and rescue owners dogs are on this supplement and it is cheap. Best of luck! Grain free food is also good so it isn’t allergy induced yeast problems from the grains.

  • HDM wasn’t necessarily saying the “four year” thing was the problem, which is why the line “I’m not saying this was the issue” was included in her response.

    For the record, I agree with HDM that feeding the same thing for a long period of time is not idea.

  • Same here. What is going on here

  • I agree you have to wean them and introduce new food slightly. Seems Castor and Pollux isn’t keeping their food consistent as my dogs now are getting diarrhea with blood a little bit, enteritis from Castor and Pollux food now. Always when a new bag comes in the home, like it is a shock to their system as if it were a different food, but it is the same. Color and size of kernels have been different in the last couple months with each bag. Not happy!They were great on it for over a year. Stool is negative. Clear pattern Thanks for sharing..

  • SAME thing with my two dogs in the last two days and they have been on this food for over a year. Just brought a new bag in. They had a problem last bag of the same food. Almost like it is a shock to their system. Are they not keeping the formula consistent? I have noticed the color of the food and even slightly size of kernel hasn’t been consistent. Bummer!!! Bloody diarhhea and stomach gurgling like crazy. Stool is negative. This has only started happening in the last three months and now i see the pattern. Whenever a new bag comes in the house as we were out of it. Not HAPPY at all ;( Thought we had them on a good food, which it prbabaly is or was. Something has changed in their formula. Thanks for posting.

  • I am sorry but the comment, “You have had them on the same food for four years?” What does that have to do with it upsetting their stomach so much with bloody diarrhea and vomiting it up after being fine on it for over a year. Something has changed in their formula. Why the different coloring? size of kernels? Not consistent….Very obvious it is the food as it has now been when a new bag comes in. You can track it. Time to try another food, but what is a good alternative grain free, organic? Any suggestions anyone?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Definitely call the company and ask questions. And definitely start rotating foods.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    As far as whether or not their was a formula change – I’m not sure, you’d have to call the company. A big problem, however, could be that you fed them the same food for four years! How would you like to eat the same thing at every meal for four years? The population of bacteria in the gut can change based on what the dog is eating – it’s healthy to feed a variety of foods to keep a healthy and varied population of probiotics in the gut. I’m not saying this was the issue, but try switching up foods in the future. Acana is a wonderful food – pick two or three more brands and rotate every month or so.

  • Jermanda

    My two toy poodles have eaten c&p for four years with no problem but this last bag of food has done them in. They have had diahrreah, mucus and blood in their stool. I have taken them to the vet, had stool tested for parasites and bacteria and the test was negative. I have fasted them for 48 hours and done the chicken stock and rice thing. I slowly put the organix food back into their diet and would get sick again. After the 3rd time of them getting sick and going through this process I decided to switch their food to acana and they are doing great! Anyone else experiencing this with the grain free castor and Pollux adult dog food? I’m thinking about calling the company…. Could it be the new company Merrick switching some things up on us??

  • Pattyvaughn

    For a lot of dogs, the corn chip smell is yeast overgrowth. One of mine gets it when he eats more carbs than his system can handle.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Buyyaclue –

    The “corn chips” smell is often caused by yeast overgrowth: http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/05/03/eating-these-foods-can-make-your-dog-itch-like-crazy.aspx

    Another thing to keep in mind is that because the chicken meal is not organic there is going to be more non-organic chicken than organic chicken – they’re trying to food you with the label. The label lists “organic chicken” as the first ingredient, however organic chicken is 80% moisture. The non-organic chicken meal is the second ingredient and the moisture is already removed. During processing 90% of the moisture will be removed from the organic chicken to make the final dry kibble product – this will push the organic chicken way down on the ingredients list making the non-organic chicken meal the predominant ingredient. Most organic foods I’ve seen use this marketing tactic.

  • Buyyaclue

    I did not realize that chicken meal is not organic. I feed my dogs the original brown bag, no wheat formula by C&P instead of the Organics now. It is good to know that fact about the chicken meal. I also read that chicken meal is the only way to get enough protein into a dog food mixture. My picky dog loves Castor and Pollux and they no longer have the doggie smell, “like corn chips” that they had on other 5 star brands. Does anyone know what food causes this odor? I always wondered if it was from an allergy to wheat? Their coats are shiney and they are healthy and will eat it and that is what matters to me. My dogs eat better then I do and I just want to keep them from getting hot spots from allergies. Knock on wood they have not had any hot spots on this food yet. I would hate to see anything happen to them and will check into the vitamin and mineral supplements coming from China.

  • K55

    I bought a 5 pound bag for $4 online through PetFlow, just to see if my dogs would like it. They love it! Course they also eat cat poop…. 🙂

  • K55

    unfortunately bugs can get into anything. I bought a bag of dry pasta once that had bugs in it.

  • Melissaandcrew

     Hi Dab-

    Actually most dogs who are used to food rotation need no or very little transition time-and its the exception if they get diarrhea. My guys switch brands, flavors etc based upon what I happen to open.

  • Dab778

    I bought a bag of this and when we were looking in my dog’s food bowl after her meal we noticed a little worm… The bag was littered with little worms! I was so livid! Luckily my pup was just fine and the worms passed right from her system. But we switched her food that night. Had to buy canned stuff to wean her onto a new brand, but we’ll never go back.

  • Dab778

    My dogs have that problem with many foods. I’m sure you probably know they have to be weaned on new foods or they’ll always get diarrhea…. My pit gets diarrhea regardless of how quickly or slowly his food is changed. It just depends on the brand for him. I hope your food wasn’t really spoiled!

    I don’t have trust in the company for my own reasons either.

  • Pattyvaughn
  • SexyZombieKilla23

    Does anyone know if this comes in Large Breed puppy formula? or any of the other 5 star dog foods? 

  • I just returned a 30lbs bag of Taste of the Wild “Bison and Veal”  to my local Feed Shop. My just turn 7 yr old labrador and my 8 yr old Whitey terrier after just three servings within 24 hrs started rushing outside to release themselves – diharrea – and going out unusually frequently- I read the date for Best Use and is was Nov. 2013. The date implies a “fresh” bag but then I smell it inside and I am certain that this is a “spoiled” product. Taking it to the Shop with the car windows shot – this is January 2013 – I could hardky stand the fowl smell. Please check your dog food if it is a Tales of the Wild product.

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  • Pattyvaughn

    It might be enough pumpkin for some vitamins but that far down on the ingredient list, it can’t be enough to help calm the stomach.  Try getting a can of pure pumpkin and giving her a good spoonful of that with her food.  I give mine a good tablespoon of it.

  • Brookie1680

    My dogs seem to love the food! I’m just hoping it agrees with my lab mix, she has a history of stomach upset and nothing seems to agree with her. She was on a prescription diet which truly calmed down her system but I can’t stand feeding her that crap. I was hoping that the pumpkin in this formula would help her with digestion. Anyone have any other suggestions? She’s 3 years old and I have tried multiple kinds of Blue, Wellness Core, Simply Nourish, Wellness Super5Mix, TOTW. Organix is hopefully my answer here. She’s had multiple knee surgeries, an exploratory surgery when they thought she ate something that was making her super sick but found nothing, and she has also been diagnosed with hip dyplasia. $$ is not a factor, I would do anything for my Bella including mortgaging the house if I had to lol.

  • Иринка Бова

    My Husky is refusing to eat it under any circumstances! Smells and walks away.

  • I was feeding Organix to my five “kids” for quite some time with no issues and was very happy…then I decided to write (email) them and just inquire as to whether or not ALL of the ingredients were from the USA as it is “Made in the USA” I have to give them credit for honesty as they did tell me that some of the vitamin/mineral supplements they use are from CHINA…as much as I liked the food, I couldn’t take the chance…I have switched to Fromm 4 Star Nutritionals and they have assured me that the vitamin/mineral additives they use are human grade from France, Germany, and Switzerland. I also like the fact that there is a variety of flavors so that each week my kids have something different. Since the formulas are the same, just the flavors are different there is no problem giving a different one each week. The price is about the same, but that is not an issue as I care more about their health than what I have to pay to feed them. If I could, I would cook all their food myself but with five….!!! How can you REALLY trust anything anymore? 🙁

  • EvesHumanMom

    Hi, Cwaltdnyc,
    I didn’t get Kaleeemo’s comment, either, but it’s not important.  Red flag doesn’t necessarily mean bad, just controversial and that it is an ingredient you might have to think about.  Do YOU think soybean meal is so bad for your dog?  If it really is organic, then it is not GMO, at least.  While it is not red flagged, there are quite a few people who don’t think white potatoes are good.  Also grains in general.  Additionally, there is also how individual dogs respond to different items and formulas.  You just find out as much as you can and decide for yourself what seems to work best for you and your pet(s.)  If you are not stuck on organic,  the regular C&P grain free doesn’t seem to have the soybean meal. And there are other rice-less soy-less foods out there, but more choices if you don’t insist on the “organic” label,  the extent of which you probably know, with pet food, depends on how trustworthy the company is.

  • Cwaltdnyc

     replying particularly to Keleeemo..I have been  using C & P Organix…my dog loves it!  On the other hand,  the grain free Organix has the soybean meal which raises a red flag in the DFA review.  I want to stay with C & P…How does one weigh the short-comings?
    By the by, I don’t understand your comment “nice try”

  • Johnandchristo

    Wow Shawna,

    That’s kinda like natural chemo. If anyone can come up with a cure. I’ll bet it will come from Mother Nature.

    I will look into that book. great info. 

  • Shawna

    I would agree 😉

    If I had cancer though, I’d be eaten the seeds like crazy..  The cyanide is released by enzymes in cancer cells (apparently) and is toxic to the cancer cell.  G. Edward Griffin discusses amygdalin (aka vitamin B17 and laetrile) in his book “A World Without Cancer”.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Shawna……

    Cyanide in apple seeds is a good example of anti- nutrients. Mother nature wants that seed to become a plant. That unhealthful component helps her to insure that the creature eating the healthy parts of apples keep up their end of the bargain. I think that they are coated with phytic acid . A  digestion inhibitor. That way they pass though intact, but if chewed or mashed 
    the plant fights back. 

  • Shawna

    I read the same as Melissa — in organic rice too. 

    CBS Chicago news reports

    “Their health conscious mother thought she was picking a good rice cereal–Earth’s Best Organic Whole Grain Rice. However, this exact brand was named in a study by Consumer Reports as a rice cereal with high levels of the potent human carcinogen, arsenic.”  http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/09/19/high-levels-of-arsenic-found-in-rice-consumer-reports/

  • Shawna

    Apple seeds actually have cyanide not arsenic.  The part of the seed with cyanide is called amygdalin — in addition to cyanide it contains 3 other molecules.  Healthy cells within the body do not have the enzyme necessary to break apart the amygdalin.  It gets removed in the urine without the cyanide ever being released. 

  • Melissaandcrew

     Cwaltdnyc-

    I believe the special said arsenic was in all rice(quite high from the brief bit of the news report that i saw)

  • Keleeemo

    CWalt, Nice try. Castor and Pollux is totally “Organic”. There is arsenic in organic and non organic apple seeds but that isn’t stopping people from eating organic apples! It’s just the way nature made them. I feel good feeding my dog the best food I can afford and if you like another brand go buy it.

  • EvesHumanMom

    Hi, Cwaltdnyc,
    There’s Castor and Pollux Organix Grain Free. 

  • Richard_Darlington

    Cwaltdnyc

    Try going grain and potato free.

  • Cwaltdnyc

    Now that arsenic has been found in brown rice, which is an ingredient in the Organix Adult food, what is one supposed to do?  Help!

  • Johnandchristo

    Dog gone…..

    Same with Labrador retrievers, and all other breeds.

  • doggonefedup

    Jan,
     I agree 1100%  With German Shepherd Breeders too reputation is everything.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I don’t see a problem with stating a breeder is reputable.  With Cavaliers, that’s a very important thing!  Why would you have a problem with this?  I really think this comment was unnecessary, sorry. 

  • Savejulian

    Who cares about your “very reputable breeder”…I guess you had to find some reason to throw that in there

  • The 4D meats might be in generic meat-and-bone meals.  Named meat meals should be ok. 

  • Jenn

    I was thinking of trying the Castor and Pollux Organix Adult Less Active formula.  You guys are saying they use 4D meat?  Do all companies that make dog food use 4D meat?  I really don’t want my dogs to eat that.  Currently trying Blue Buffalo and they kind of like the Healthy Weight Chicken recipe.  I was curios about trying Castor and Pollux and they did not like Wellness.  Picky dogs lol

  • The Organix Grain Free Small Breed appears to be exactly like the original but in a smaller bite.  What exactly were you feeding before?  Chicken is a very common allergen and this food has chicken.  There is a chicken-free alternative in the Ultramix line – Ultramix Grain Free Poultry Free. 

  • Hi Shawncupp,

    It all depends upon exactly which ingredient your dog is allergic to.

    Unfortunately, since I’m not a veterinarian and due to the biological uniqueness of each pet, it would be inappropriate for me to provide specific product recommendations.

    You may wish to check with Sandy or one of our other resident pug experts.

    Wish I could be more help.

  • Shawncupp

    Thanks for the reply, Mike. It’s the small breed version of their organix line. I just noticed that on one review you have 4 1/2 stars and this one says 5 stars for what appears to be the same product. My pug is really struggling from alergies and just switched her from avoderm to organix grain free. Do you think this food is a good choice?

  • Hi Shawn,

    It depends on what they mean by “new”. I updated Organix Grain Free at the end of December. This particular product line is not scheduled for another update here until later this year.

    Unfortunately, you’ll have to check with the company to see if there’s been any changes since then.

    Wish I could be more help.

  • Shawn

    I just bought my pug Maggie Castor and Pollux Organix Adult Grain Free small breed. It says it is new. Can you confirm this is also a 5 star food? Thanks

  • Keleeemo

    I put my pregnant Boston Terrier on Castor and Pollux Puppy food because I liked the fact it was no grain as Bostons can have skin allergies. Immediately I noticed how much she liked eating the food. She is a picky eater and liked the flavor so meal time was much more enjoyable. She maintained a healthy weight and her 3 pups were born with ease. The pups seem to never nurse because they are getting everything they need and are putting weight on. Pregnancy can be stressful and it usually shows but my female has a shiny coat and plenty of energy. Most Importantly she has not had any allergies or skin problems since being on Castor and Pollox. The pups have doubled their birth rate and are satisfied after nursing.

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  • Chaise

    I’ve had the same issue. Strange.

  • Shawna

    Anniearies ~~ I completely agree with hounddogmom12. 

    In fact, recent studies are showing that older dogs actually need more protein then their adult couterparts.  They don’t, as a general, digest as efficiently so they need more protein to meet their amino acid needs.  The liver (and other organs) use those amino acids for cellular growth and repair.. 

    Carbs, like grains, are actually the only macronutrient that dogs DON’T require.

    Nutritionist Mary Straus wrote an article titled “Diets for Senior Dogs” for the Whole Dog Journal.  Here’s a blurb from the article and link to the article.

    “Recent studies show that healthy older dogs may need as much as 50 percent more protein than their younger adult counterparts….

     Protein and carbohydrates supply exactly the same number of calories: 4 calories per gram. Replacing protein with carbohydrates does nothing to reduce calories, but it does reduce nutrition. Dogs have no nutritional need for carbohydrates, as even the veterinary textbooks admit. Diets high in carbohydrates contribute to inflammation, which increases arthritis pain, and can cause medical problems, including obesity and maldigestion.”  http://dogaware.com/articles/wdjseniordiets.html

  • hounddogmom12

    Anniearies,

    The nutritional needs of a senior dog aren’t different than the needs of an adult dog, seniors just need to eat less (generally) due to the fact that they are less active and their metabolisms have slowed down. A grain-free diet is suitable for an age – and it’s more species appropriate than a grain-inclusive diet.

  • Anniearies

    hi, i was wonder anyone can tell me, is organix grain free formula suitable for a “6years” old one?? my dog used to eat food with grain. i was wanted to try, but was told it is not good for their livers for the oldies??

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  • hounddogmom12

    Well the difference between WITH grain and grain-FREE is that there are no grains in the grain-free formula (rice, barley, oats, etc.). And there’s a big difference, dogs are not meant to eat grains. They are not even born producing the enzyme to break down and digest grains so it is more biologically appropriate to feed a grain-free formula. Grain-free formula generally higher in protein also.

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  • Hi Rohit,

    I doubt many organic foods are actually inspected by the government. The term only means the producer is conforming to USDA requirements.

    Hope this helps.

  • Rohit

    Mike,  does USDA Organic really mean that the government is inspecting every batch that is being produced? Apparently, the USDA inspects once a year.  How can we trust Merrick (which did not have organic pet food prior to this acquisition of Castor and Pollux) to keep making organic food? Or were they making it for them to begin with?  It’s so confusing that brands we trust are made by shady toll manufacturers like what happened with brands made by Diamond.  Thanks.

  • Feed him raw carrots as a snack; it will help with his teeth.

  • I buy the adult grain free and it is small.

  • Gur

    Can someone please help me out with this? Preferably a vet or someone very knowledgeable and not just a pet owner giving an opinion. What is the difference between Organix dry dog for WITH grain vs. grain-free?
    Is there really much of an advantage either way? Also, does anyone know how good Wellness Core dry food is compared to either of these?
    I have a 65 lb Catahoula and have been feeding him Taste of the Wild dry food (mixed with Wellness wet food) until TOTW was voluntarily recalled this week.

    Thanks!
    [email protected]

  • Husker

    What size is the adult food kibble?  Is it small, almost like cat food or is it a good chunk size?  My 9mos old has problems with the small size kibble, tried switching him to HALO but it was too small.

  • Bill

    Looks like Merrick acquired this company.
     http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/news-and-community

  • I always change flavors of dry dog food when one runs out and I keep a variety of canned foods at the same time so the dogs don’t ever get the same thing for a long time. They also get raw food half the time. I haven’t yet run into a GI problem.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    Fyi, according to Susan Thixton, Merrick has bought the Castor & Pollux company.

  • Chip

    Flod, I used to mix the wet canned Organix with the dry for my two dogs and my older one got diarrhea something awful. I was able to trace it to the canned food, which we had been feeding them for over a year. For whatever reason, he can’t eat it without getting sick in the stomach now for some reason. I have cans from a different store and a different month, but the outcome was the same. I just feed them the dry food now, but it’s interesting that you should mention that because it’s the same problem I was having with my dog.

  • Flod

    I have been feeding this to my dogs for over a year and just on the last bag my dogs have started having loose stools has the formula been changed?

  • Glad my very reputable breeder forwarded this website to me. I was just today headed to the pet store to refill on my Cavalier King Charles’ food. I always used Natural Balance but lately Sammy didn’t want that and he is usually not very picky. This led me to believe that there may be something different about the food. I settled on Castor and Pollux Organix and he loved it. I feel so much better knowing i am giving my sweet pet the best and it did not break the bank at all. 🙂
     

  • Pugsonraw

    Thanks, this is Jake my 3 year old brindle pug. He is full of personality.   

  • i8ok

    Shawna, I thank you for finding this information. It is extremely disturbing. 4D animal meat can be in human food and pet food. Most people would never know.

  • Toxed2loss

    Cute pic for your avatar Pugsonraw. 🙂

  • Toxed2loss

    Wow is right!! That’s awful!!!

  • Pugsonraw

    Here are a few you might want to check out- Precise Hollistic Complete Small & Med Breed Adult (5*), By Nature Organic Chicken Formula (5*), Natural Planet Organics Adult Chicken (4*) Acana Classic Series (5*), Pure Vita Chicken and Brown Rice (4*), Fromm Gold Nutritionals (4*). These all have grains, but no potatoes, white rice, sweet potatoes or tapioca. Hope this helps.

  • Addie

    Good point Shawna on 4d animals being used as ‘organic chicken.’ And, wow is right! That’s incredibly disturbing! 

  • Shawna
  • Addie

    Automatically assuming they use 4d because the chicken meal isn’t organic is a bit of a reach. No meat meals can ever be certified as organic. A higher meat content is completely beneficial, which is why most 5 star kibbles use meat meals; they can’t receive a high protein content with just fresh meat ingredients. Like I originally said, contact the company if you’re interested in learning where they receive their meal from. Their chicken meal could be of the same quality as Brothers. I have no idea, as I’ve never used their food, but on their website FAQ, it clearly states ”
    Since our packaging references “made with organic chicken”, it is required that all chicken ingredients in the ingredient dec are organic.  This seems like a simple problem to solve.  Just use organic chicken meal.  The problem is organic chicken meal does not currently exist.  There are multiple reasons why it is not available, but the main point is we cannot purchase organic chicken meal, yet our formulas were formulated to contain chicken meal in order to provide a wholesome balanced nutrition for our pets. ”

  • i8ok

    I found this on the brand website, which describes the non-organic chicken meal which is the primary ingredient in the Castor & Pollux Organix kibbles. I imagine the “”natural, USDA-inspected chickens”” are poisoned with antibiotics and insecticides. Probably 4D also.
    http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/product/organix-grain-free-adult-dog-food-0
    The #1 ingredient in our ORGANIX Grain-Free Adult Dog Food is organic, free-range chicken. We follow that with a high quality chicken meal, made from natural, USDA-inspected chickens.

  • Penni

    Our 3-year-old Great Dane eats a mix of CP Organix Adult and CP Organix Ultramix. We try to mix it up a bit with weight management versions to help with a lttle protein limitation. He gets a wet mix of dry & Merricks canned for “breakfast” but is a free-feed otherwise.
    Overall our boy does great on the food but the size of the kibble are very small. According to our vet, he really doesn’t need to chew this food and mostly swallows it whole. This is not good for his teeth.
    Can someone suggest a premuim food that is comparable to CP Organix that comes in a much larger kibble size. We’re not really interested in completely switching, but would like to add it to his mix so that it will help with keeping his teeth cleaner.
     Having had Parvo as a puppy, he has a delicate digestion and poultry products seem to work best for him. Beef is too rich and fish doesn’t set too well either. He tolerates lamb in smaller quantities, but not on a daily basis.

  • Sucker4Rescues

    We just finished transitioning our 12 lb Cavalier(?) Mix rescue over to this food from Natural Balance Ultra.  When we got Sophie 5 months ago, the foster had her on Eukanuba.  I wanted to feed her a better kibble and tried the NB.  She has done fine on the NB, but I wanted to try to up her protien a little bit.  We transitioned her over 12 days and she had no problems at all.  We also give her a high protein canned topper at night. 

    She recently has had an issue with a yeast infection in her ears (occured prior to the food change).  I’m hoping she isn’t prone to yeast infections.  The vet had her on antibioics for a different issue before Xmas, so I’m thinking that’s what triggered the yeast infection.  I’ve started adding probiotics to her food and we are treating her ears with Zymox Enzymatic OTIC, which seems to be working great on the infection.  Hopefully this food will help with her yeasty ears, since I know quality of food can have a big impact.  I know this isn’t grain free, but at least it has better quality grains and no potatoes or sweet potatoes. 

     I would like to find a couple more quality foods that I can rotate with the C&P Organix.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  I’m a little leary of going grain free, since most use potatoes or sweet potatoes, which I’ve heard can feed yeast infections.  Our only pet store in town is Petsmart.  So I’m pretty well limited to what they sell.  The local tractor supply only sells TOTW in small bags.    

  • Yemarb

    My picaneese/maltese mix has ate this food her whole life, she is ten years old, going on eleven. No problems.

  • Phillip Lauer

    We just finished transitioning our three dogs to this kibble. They love it and have had no ill effects from changing kibble brands as is often the case. This appears to be a very high quality food. The relatively low protein is perfect for our Pugs.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I find just cutting portions and calories help reduce weight – I have not had to use any special food type. Increased exercise, decreased food. in winter depending on where I am living – my dogs will get less exercise and thus less food

  • Mike P

    Legal you have one guy with his wife’s help doing thousands of food reviews.Are you really serious??

  • Legalweedca

    i feed my dog organix weight management dry dog food. there is no reveiw for this food. you should put a reveiw or your site is not good for not having all dog foods

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  • Miha

    Our min pin/chihuahua mix dog loves the taste of the Organix/Weight Management dog food, which is amazing since she prefers wet food. After being told by the vet that she needed to lose weight pronto, we put her on the weight management food. It seems to be working, as she has lost a pound. She still seems hungry after eating the food, which is served at the prescribed amount; I supplement her food with a daily vitamin chew (since i worry about her getting proper nutrition with such little food). This food doesn’t smell like some other low quality dog kibble either, which makes me feel better about giving it to my baby. I only want the best for her, so I don’t mind the cost of the food, which is rather expensive.

  • Marie

    This food is great, and literally the only one my cat will try to chew a hole in the bag through to get some. 🙂

    I know this site is for dog food, but until I get a dog (hopefully soon) I can only relate my cat experience, LOL. I’m glad it received such a high rating.

  • Gordon

    Ryan – Yes, my understanding is that indeed, ear infections unlike other body part infectons/allergies, are actually food related./caused. Or is my memory of some related literature failing me? No, I think that’s right!

  • Victoria

    Looks like their new grain free formula has poultry meal and soy, you’d think they’d make it better quality since its grain free.

  • Ryan

    I just swithced from Wellness to CP Organix last week. This week my brussels griffon has an ear infection, and has thrown up his breakfast twice. Is it true that food allergies can cause ear infections?

  • kelly vina

    This is a GREAT dog food. I have been researching for about 3 months now and gotta tell you this is awesome food for your child. Oops I mean dog.haha I buy mine from petco and its priced reasonable.

  • Janie B.

    Had fed Purina Pro Plan (yuck) for years before finding this website and learning about some of the ingredients I was feeding my dog. Switched to Organix (dry adult) after reading and reading and READING! 🙂 My dog loves it and has had no problems. Yes, it’s expensive but I print the online coupon (at foodforpets.com) and use a Petco coupon at the same time. Plus, she doesn’t eat as much of this food as the old food.

  • Gordon

    Actually no, I won’t try this one as I just realised when looking at how high the carb content is. Too high for my liking.

  • Mary Lou

    Hi Sandi ~

    That is crazy. I would have expected better from a company like Castor and Pollux that prides themselves on their organic ingredients. At this point, I have no intention of going back to kibble, but was curious to see what they had to offer. It really has been easy to do away with kibble with this small guy. I think it was yesterday, someone was mentioning dogs “inhaling” kibble. Our guy did that with Acana and Instinct. He did crunch a bit with Wellness Core, but other than that, he ate his kibble whole. Long story short ~ I think we are done with kibble ~ at least at this time. Never say never. : )

  • Hi Mary Lou,

    Check out my posts Sandi July 10, 2011 at 2:51 pm & Sandi July 10, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    I was disappointed when I read the ingredients & saw the price – I went with Earthborn Primitive. I still like C&P canned Organix Turkey & mix a little in with the kibble & to give w/supplements.

  • Mary Lou

    Checked the Organix grain free out of curiosity. Poultry meal! Orgainic soybean meal!

  • Gordon

    I’m thinking of trying this one to mix with EB, to replace Artemis. I have access to this one but am not really happy that it still has grains, albeit better quality in organic rice and oats.

  • Hi Diana… All four (new) Castor and Pollux grain free dog foods (Organix and Ultramix, both dry and canned) are already on my To Do list. However, due to my current backlog of products for review, it could be a while longer before I get to them Thanks for the reminder.

  • diane k

    mike,
    any reviews on organix grain-free formula that is now available?

  • Gordon

    Yeah Antonio, sometimes there just seems to be no other way. With these types of wild fauna our countries try to contain, it isn’t feasible or practical to catch such one by one, and euthanise same, the painless and quiet way in which out Veterinary clinics can do with terminally ill domestic pets.

  • Antonio

    Gordon you hit the nail on the head and your absolutely correct. We are currently dealing w/ wild hogs taking over agricultural lands throughout the south and causing billions of dollars annually, guess what uncle Sam did to help the problem, we have a Any season open hunt on wild pigs, you don’t even have to have a permit or license, you can freely kill any limit of pigs that you desire. In short the government is culling the population this way.

  • Gordon

    Michelle – As cruel as that sounded, like Antonio and Mike P said, that’s how most achieved the decrease in numbers of certain animals, back in those old days of our parents and grand parents. However, this even still occurs today. Rabbits, ferrets, rodents, even fruit bats etc, are endorsed by governments nowadays from time to time to be killed (they can term it ‘culled’, but it is killing as far as I’m concerned), in order to control the numbers.

    ATM, in Oz, we have two main problems, that state governments are analysing. One, cane toads from the North which are toxic, are growing in numbers and are said to be migrating out of their usual habitat and traveling south. Governments and scientists are at a loss as to how to stop them. Two, we have recent fruit bats (flying foxes) that carry the Hendra virus and their droppings are mixed with the grasses around treas where many horses eat from in the country, then contract this virus, who in turn, can spread it to human handlers etc. There is no cure and this virus is deadly. Of course these types of animal population problems are on a much bigger scale, however, resolutions of such problems can not mirror those of our modern day control of the domestic pet sterilisation. I wish I had the answers as does anyone else who loves animals, but such is the harsh reality of life sometimes.

  • melissa

    Antonio-

    I have to agree with you on the statement about more dogs needing vet care because they have a “change in status” over the years. Companion animals have come a long way in how they are viewed by both the owners and society in general.No longer do they just go for a few puppy shots, altering and thats it-now they get yearly exams, vaccinations, heartworm testing/preventative, dental care etc etc .

    I do not however think that by feeding an $80 bag of food over another 5 star $50-60 bag of food is going to be the “deal breaker” in how long the dog lives or may have lived. Its everything together ,imo, that plays a role-health care, genetics and food.

  • Antonio

    On a side note, the ideology of human vs inhumane is purely the opinion of the individual, most meat eating individuals have never saw how a slaughter house is operating (it’s not for the weak of heart), but it’s pretty much accepted by the general public w/ the few exceptions out there.

  • Antonio

    Well Michelle given that you were born in 85′ it’s possible that you wouldn’t have heard about culling animals (livestock) as dogs where once pretty much considered part of the livestock, but believe me it was definately happening on a regular basis back in the day, heck if the truth were known it’s quite possible that some kennels (breeders) are still practicing this method of culling out the weaker genetics. It’s the sad truth, but in the wild the same thing would pretty much happen we like to compare dogs to wolves, but if a wolf was born sick, lame, or otherwise it’s very likely that unless human intervention took place the wolf pup would be culled (killed or sarved out) by it’s own mother. It’s one of the more less fortunate sides of nature that many people have not seen and probably shouldn’t have to see. Although this would be viewed by today’s population mass as animal abuse most children raised on farms when I was growing up were already accustomed to killing livestock, and hunting meat that would be on the dinner plate that same evening. It was just a different time back then.

  • Mike P

    Michelle , You can’t call out someone for child abuse on something that happened 60 years ago . That’s the way things were done back then . Today some people don’t even kill bugs . They catch them and let them go free in the backyard . We grew up poor as a family and when one of our dogs got sick they were put down . When I was a kid , I would come home from school and the dog would be gone . Before pets became family members ( as mine is ) , they were just viewed as animals . People came first , animals a distant second . I like todays way better . But it’s hard to blame our parents or grand parents for the way they did things back in the day .

  • Michelle

    Antonio, I didn’t say that you killed animals….. I was born in 1985 and I have never heard of such a thing, although I’m sure that it exsists. Gordon- Whoever made your mother drown kittens is guilty of child abuse, corrupting the morals of a minor, and murdering kittens. The world can be a very sick and twisted place for innocent children and animals. HOW SAD. I could never imagine ordering my 6 year old son to kill any animal.

  • Antonio

    @ Michelle I didn’t say I was the one culling the animals I was pretty much just a child during this time, I’m saying that is how it was done during those times. Ask any of your old time breeders or look online at some historical information regarding not just dog breeding but livestock breeding in general and you will see this was common practice. Although it’s destestable now days, it was commong practice during the time of our grandparents and parents.

  • Gordon

    Yes and no Antonio. I hear what you are saying, but my father’s favourite dog lived to 25 years of age with out ever seeing kibble or the Vet. Having said this, eras even before this when dogs had to fend for themselves, did in fact in live shorter lives much like their ancestral wolves. But this is due to the very fact, that whilst their game kills and scavenges were as nature intended, they were prone to parasites with out human combating intervention. Also they whilst had diets as intended by Nature, also had no human love, care, and overall nurturing intervention and socialisation. All these things have to be a considerable factor negating an otherwise natural diet in causing their shorter life spans of those eras.

    With regard to weaker pups as you said, having to be killed (I despise the politically correct “culling’ term as it is what it is, and that is “killing”), that is true and in my mum’s case back on her childhood days growing up on the farm, she was ordered to throw a litter of kittens (Like you say there was no effective birth control such as spaying and neutering in those days) in the nearby lake to drown, as the only humane way they knew then to control the numbers. It has actually effected my mum when ever she talked about as an adult, because she actually holds all animals in her heart, dearly. So you can imagine, as a child, what she would have felt, having to do this.

  • Michelle

    Antonio- that is just evil……and inhumane.

  • Antonio

    @ Gordon: you made the comment Remember that the era well before commercial kibble, dogs lived off the land and of a diet closer to their ancestors. Those born of ill-fated weaknesses, were phased out via Natural Selection or Survival of the fittest. They never saw the likes of a Vet, let a lone an unnatural processed food source like doggy biscuits (kibble) regardless of whether grain free or not.

    This is a bit one sided b/c all reports show that domesticated dogs are living longer in the post commercial kibble era than did the table scrap eating generation before them. The main reason you see more animals at the Vet office now days as oppose to in the past has more to do with the dog’s place in the family today as oppose to his previous role as simple “The family dog”.. today his role is closer to family member by most accounts, therefore as a member of the family he see’s a doctor “Vet” as would any other functioning member of the family. But I agree wholeheartedly with you on the information about the survival of the fittest also playing a part, even when I was younger weaker puppies where generally culled (killed) at a young age to prevent them from ever being allowed a chance back into the breeding populatoin, today this can be done more ethically thru the process of spaying/neutering.

  • Gordon

    Sandi – Regarding my comment you quoted, “You may as well feed your dog full time raw and be hapy knowing your dog will be unlikely to ever see the likes of a Vet again.”. This is quite a statement, however its born not from me, but experts of likes of Dr. Ian Billinghurst B.V.Sc (Hons) B Sc Agr Dip Ed, Dr. Tom Lonsdale B.Vet.Med, and actually many more. It is based on these practicing Vets’ clinical experience. And whilst it is their anecdotal evidence, it is derived from expert empirical ones.

    So note that I did state “…..be unlikely…..” This is based on a lot of anecdotal evidence and the word “unlikely” is even more the case, regarding already healthy and strong breed lines.

    Remember that the era well before commercial kibble, dogs lived off the land and of a diet closer to their ancestors. Those born of ill-fated weaknesses, were phased out via Natural Selection or Survival of the fittest. They never saw the likes of a Vet, let a lone an unnatural processed food source like doggy biscuits (kibble) regardless of whether grain free or not.

    It wasn’t until mankind bred dogs over hundreds of years changing their Nuclear DNA, hence creating different shapes, sizes, appearances etc, in creating various breeds, small and big, as well as in-breeding, that came with the downside of inferior this or that in most breeds created over time. This produced various breeds, then cross breeds with weaker immunity, or particular inferior physical attributes, or greater allergy vulnerability, or altered particular physical aspects of the body compromised and open to greater physical ailments, etc etc.

    Therefore, I do share the opinions of pro-raw and holistic experts who believe (as I said before, through their own day day out experiences) that biologically appropriate raw foods, can and do dramatically improve the overall health and immunity of most dogs over such long term diets.

    Of course there are exceptions and are in the minority.

  • Howdy Richard,

    Since I’m fairly new, I just figured out why this is happening. When I click on my name under “Recent Comments” it takes me to my website. If I click on the subject matter, it takes me to the topic. DUH!!!

    I am familiar with the Rife Machine. I know Joan Ranquet http://www.joanranquet.com/index.html
    I was in touch with her when my Whippet was diagnosed with a mast cell tumor. She recommended Zeolite – Volcanic ash and the Rife machine. Said it helps with cancer & is really effective. She has since moved West and out of Florida. I’m on the same page as you as I know diet does cause problems. Here’s one for you:
    DIS-EASE also causes disease. I emphasize people keep their pet’s immune system strong. I found IP6 Gold is very good to strengthen the immune system. We all have cancer cells in us and depending on circumstances, it can become full blown. Thanks for your info.

  • Sandi
    You got sent to the Brothers Complete web site when you clicked on my picture because I’m the Dad of the Brothers Complete Family as well as THe Doggy Store. One push and your there. It’s a miracle of modern technology.

    I am certainly not claiming that if you feed your dog raw or get them off grain/potato they will live forever or that is the only thing that can effect them adversely. THere are certainly other factors that affect health.

    However, in 1932 Dr Royal Raymond Rife discovered that bacteria are pleomorphic and not monomorphic, as the AMA believes to this day. The AMA believes that all disease is caused by an outside “invader” and that existing bacteria in the body cannot change into a pathogenic condition (pleomorphism). You can read the history of his amazing discovery (the Rife machine) in the book “The Cancer Cure That Worked”. The short version is that almost all pathogenic disease begins in the body when a normally beneficial bacteria “morphs” into a virus that can cause a disease state, when the environment of the area that the bacteria lived in was altered by something (pollution, stress, ingesting a pathogen, bad diet, etc.). He was able to turn cancer off and on in rats.

    So my contention is that diet can be a contributing factor in many disease states because it lowers the immune function and can alter the internal chemistry to the point that things that might not normally affect the dogs health now cause a problem because the dogs “system” is weakened or compromised and it is more prone to disease states.

    We’ve found that dogs with Candida overgrowth will itch, get loose stools, have allergic reactions, et., etc. from things they would otherwise NOT react to when in a vibrant healthy state. Dogs who react adversely to something because they have Candida will, upon getting Candida back in balance, have no adverse reactions from those same things. Not every problem will be completely resolved all the time but such a large majority of problems, (including conditions like colitis and bloody stools that you would not suspect connected to grain perhaps) have been resolved over the years that I just keep doing what works and try to figure it out later.

    But what the Hey, let’s clean up the environment, eliminate poisons in our water supplies, stop spraying our lawns, and fix everything else if we can – I’m all for it.

  • Antonio – I’ll pass on the bbq – it’s a date for Oaklawn Park.

  • “The dog I had as a boy lived to be 23 yrs old and other than one vaccination and rabies shot never went to a Vet until the day he was put to sleep. He had only people food and was spared a constant diet of grain and potato which so many of today’s dogs are fed. So if you feed your dog a natural diet free of constant grain or potato and give it lots of exercise (Patches ran free most days and busied himself sharing the affections of willing neighborhood females – this was way back before leash laws) I suspect that your dog will be fine. ”

    “You may as well feed your dog full time raw and be hapy knowing your dog will be unlikely to ever see the likes of a Vet again.”

    Richard & Gordon – That’s quite the claims. I don’t think there are studies that show feeding raw vs. kibble will keep your dog from seeing the Vet. If feeding raw, you know there are antibiotics/hormones in the meats – so how healthy is that? Going organic would be more healthy. Also, times are certainly different since I grew up. Air pollution, use of pesticides, antibiotics, etc. play a big part in everyone’s health. Did you know secondhand smoke is just as bad for pets as people?

    Richard, did you spray your lawn with pesticides where Patches played? I think what kept him youthful was his home visits in the neighborhood.

    IMO I don’t think we can safely say because we feed quality kibble without grain/potato a dog will never get sick. There’s so many other factors that contribute to illness. I totally agree feeding a quality kibble or raw is the way to go. I was buying Hundenflocken back in the 90’s when you could only buy it through a distributor, not in Big Box or Mom/Pop stores.

    One of my Vets is feeding Purina to her 18 year old dog – go figure!!!

  • Richard – How is it I clicked on “Richard Darlington on Castor and Pollux Organix (Dry)” and your Brother’s website came up?

  • Gordon

    If those prices on this brand’s new to be released grain free versions are going to be that high, anyone would have to be ‘nuts’ to pay for such over any of the 5 star rated raw foods. You may as well feed your dog full time raw and be hapy knowing your dog will be unlikely to ever see the likes of a Vet again.

  • Antonio
    Thank you for correcting my mistake. You are correct in that the figures of $5,900 are for the lifetime Vet care of the Average dog.

    I’ll make sure to warn you when I’m passing through so you can have that BB all heated up and cranking out some tasty stuff.

    I can certainly sympathize with your reluctance to believe anything on a dog food label, especially if you’ve seen what passes for most dog food manufacturing plants up close. So when I stop by your place someday for some good old boy BB I’ll tell you about Brothers Complete face to face and man to man, so you don’t have to worry about it coming from a label – then we’ll sit down, eat BB and cheer the Razorbacks to victory – then go lose some money on a horse.

  • Antonio

    The bbq in Arkansas rivals that of neighboring states Tennesee and Texas. We have kind of a mix bbq culture here. Heck I do a bit of outdoor grilling weekly :),, I sit out a few hours yesterday doing it. If you decide to visit Arkansas come at a good time of year either college football season or during the horse racing season so I can take you up to the Oaklawn Park in Hot Spings, it’s only about 35min from my house. BTW, I’m assuming in your last posts you didn’t mean the average vet costs was $5,900 year and $15,000 year in FL, I’m pretty sure you meant lifetime costs. As I’ve stated previously I think Brother’s brand is likely a good food, I could likely afford the costs, but being that I grew up near a dog food manufacturing plant I wouldn’t pay $80 for any type of dog kibble no matter what the claims on the bag are. But more importantly I prefer the convenience of being able to drive a few miles and pick up a load of feed when I need it. And I’m sure the customers that are using your products are using a top rated kibble, and their pets will live long healthy lives while on it, so it’s a win-win-win, for them, their pets, and yourself.

  • Antonio
    Before this becomes $20,000 a year in vet care – the average cost of vet care in the US is $5,900 a year but in Florida it’s much higher (up to $15,000 a year).

    The dog I had as a boy lived to be 23 yrs old and other than one vaccination and rabies shot never went to a Vet until the day he was put to sleep. He had only people food and was spared a constant diet of grain and potato which so many of today’s dogs are fed. So if you feed your dog a natural diet free of constant grain or potato and give it lots of exercise (Patches ran free most days and busied himself sharing the affections of willing neighborhood females – this was way back
    before leash laws) I suspect that your dog will be fine.

    The ongoing saga of constant Vet visits we hear of at the store are mostly things that we have found can be resolved by a good diet. After we put these “problem” dogs on a good diet and the problems go away the thing we hear over and over is, “why didn’t the Vet tell me this?” so I agree that a dog does not need the constant round trips to the Vet if you can keep them off grain and potato and feed them as natural diet as possible.

    We formulated Brothers to be as close as possible to a raw natural healthy diet but we are trying to imitate nature so it is always better to go straight to mother nature herself – shameless knows the way there.

    I’ll have to stop in and visit Arkansas as it is one of very few states I haven’t been to – especially now that I have a connection there. How’s the barbecue in Arkansas?

  • Antonio

    Wow Sandi, based on that article, my avoidance of over vaccination might actually have some merit as shown in the link above. That’s interesting.

  • Mike P – glad you got out of Florida. I tried in ’05 but the real estate market tanked. My friend goes to Butzer & likes him, I went to him when I first got my Whippet 15 yrs. ago. The reason for the Cad SUV’s is probably because of St. Andrews Country Club nearby (million dollar estates). That area is well-to-do. I’m not into Country Club living for three reasons, I’m poor, it’s not my style, I’m poor ;).

    Boris – you are correct. Organic is the way to go and I don’t mind paying a little more for it. I buy organic produce/vegetables and pay a few cents more for it for myself. C&P is more than “a little more”. You might want to call them to find out why they didn’t include garlic & let us know. I totally agree with you on the “vaccinations”.

    Antonio – “So I guess from reading the comments I’ll just have to consider myself fortunate that I’ve avoided many of those costly bullets that many others have seemed to experienced.”

    I hope it continues. After reading everyone’s posts, I consider myself blessed that I don’t have a major illness to deal with. It’s not only costly, but stressful. I have the “d” and “sneezes” downpat also. You might be interested in this article I just read for people:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/10/this-shocking-fact-is-never-disclosed-on-any-vaccine-informed-consent-form.aspx?e_cid=20110710_SNL_Art_N

    I wish a long, healthy and happy life for all our pets!

  • Antonio

    Hey Richard come on over the gas prices where $3.35 last night for a gallon of the 87 :). @ Sandi, it’s really not uncommon for people here not to incur 15k on vet costs over the life of a dog, but then again I’m not a person that takes my dog to a vet everytime it sneezes or have a little bit of diarrhea. I’ve been involved with caring for dogs about 25 years and during that time I’ve learned that dogs like people tend to live healthier lives w/ fewer vaccinations <–(Purely My Opinion), but it seems that people and dogs alike have developed a lot of allergies and other issues from generations of living in a over vaccinated society. I live a simple life for myself and dogs basic trial/error for the most part, and a life of faith in God, that has been a winning combination and when something works why change it right? So I guess from reading the comments I'll just have to consider myself fortunate that I've avoided many of those costly bullets that many others have seemed to experienced.

  • boris

    this food look very good. organic food is good food for me and dog and you. organic brown rice very very good but why no garlic? garlic very impotant!

  • Mike P

    No we used to live in Boynton ,not far from the Boca snobs . We used to go to a Boca vet . Butzer I believe …He was awesome. I never saw so many Cadilac Suv’s in one parking lot Lol .

  • Antonio – “I’m pretty sure unless something drastic happens (cancer, amputation) or otherwise the vet costs for my dogs will certainly not exceed nor even come remotely close to those costs 11K-15K”

    I hope you have a good Vet who is always correct in their diagnosis. I belong to a Whippet on-line group as well as nutrition groups who list the problems they have with their dog(s). Speaking from experience, a dog having a UTI for example, can run into $$. It can take a few months before the pet is well again. Between the office visits, bloodwork, xrays or ultrasound, medications, urinalysis, etc. is costly. I don’t believe the $15K is just for vaccinations. I’m sure I exceeded that amount before I got my second Whippet.

    Mike P – do you live in Boca????

  • Mike P – LOL – you’re not too far off about Boca but, it’s not just for shots – they must buy the Hills prescription food and that’s enough to qualify as robbery and puts the cost of Vet “care” in the stratosphere – just kidding (I think).

    Antonio – I may have to move to Arkansas if this economy gets much worse. Your prices there are very attractive. What’s a gallon of gas going for? We’re up over $4 bucks a gallon in Fl. Can you point me in the right direction? I know I go north until Georgia then turn left but I’m not sure after that. Do I have to cross the mighty Mississippi? How you doing with the
    tornadoes and nasty weather this year?

  • Antonio

    LOL,, wow 15K just for basic vaccinations over a lifetime is insane here in Arkansas. I guess I should learn to be thankful for the lower cost of living here 🙂

  • Mike P

    Antonio , thats what they charge in Boca just for shots …

  • Antonio

    Bang! Bang! Bang! LOL,, j/k Richard, there’s clearly a difference when feeding a high quality kibble over a low quality kibble chalked full of harmful chemicals and useless fillers, but I highly doubt there’s a big difference when comparing apples to apples and feeding one high quality kibble compared to another high quality kibble. This is just my opinion so I’m sure like yourself I leave myself open to critisicm with that statement. I cant’ argue with those statements about the average vet cost over the lifespan of a dog I’m sure you’ve done your research and those results are likely correct, but I’m pretty sure unless something drastic happens (cancer, amputation) or otherwise the vet costs for my dogs will certainly not exceed nor even come remotely close to those costs 11K-15K “(YES my dogs see their vet annually)”.

  • Mike P
    The Vet association keeps the average cost of Vet care in the US for the average dog over an average lifetime. The lowest state in the country is about $6,000 I think and in Florida it’s about $11,000 to $15,000 for total Vet care over the life time of the average dog. When I tell my customers that you would be surprised at how many say, “Oh, I’ve already spent that much.”

    Spending a few extra dollars a month (remember that our actual tests on actual dogs showed that when compared to 13 different kibbles from Purina to TOW, Earthborn, and Before Grain) only cost an average of about $5 to $15 bucks more a month to feed Brothers) to feed your dog the best dry food possible (Shameless and her raw diet is still the king) is still in my mind financially judicious. You cannot go by the recommended feeding on the bag to compare how much your dog will eat of a high quality food compared to another – as we found out. Calories from grain or potato do not compare to calories from a protein. In ACTUAL tests the average increase in cost on all size dogs was about $10 more per month. That’s $120 per year. What does one single visit to a Vet. cost?

    My suggestion to our customers who are skeptical is to try it for 2 months and they will see for themselves that the cost is close and you will likely also see a nice difference in your dogs energy and health.

    Mike, this is our real life experience and I say this out of a genuine concern for your dog and you, and anyone else’s dog, as much as any other personal reason. We are totally committed to a win-win-win for all concerned – not just us.

    Now after that statement I totally realize I leave myself wide open for a point blank full broadside volley from anyone who believes there is little difference between a $50 food versus a $75 food or that all manufacturers are only interested in sales, above the actual well being of the individual dog or the dogs owner – so as one shipmate to another, as I sit here dead in the water telling you that I actually do care more about the dogs we feed and their owners as much as we do about our company (win-win-win) and look across the water at your ship I wonder…are those 5 inch guns armed and aimed?

    I do realize that many people believe that they cannot afford a top of the line food but our real life tests showed that it really isn’t that much different over the month to feed your dog and when you take into account Vet bills there is no real comparison in my opinion. I fully accept anyone doing what they believe is all they can afford but I cannot keep biting my tongue when I honestly believe there is another alternative that would actually be better long term. Ok who has their finger on the trigger? I’m an easy target.

  • Hi Sandi… I agree. These new C&P grain free recipes do look very good, indeed. I’ve added all 4 grain-free product lines (Organix and Ultramix, both dry and wet) to my To Do list. But as usual, due to my current backlog of products awaiting review, it might be a while longer before I get to them. Thanks for the tip.

  • I knew everyone would react that way! I also laughed and thought of Richard. Looks like I won’t be going with C&P. Not affordable for me. I do like their canned which I get for $2.09 @ Tunies. I only use that as a topper & for pilling.

    Did you notice the soybean meal – what’s up with that? GMO??? A lot of dogs are also allergic to soy. I was waiting for Mike S.’s comments before I posted my thoughts.

  • Mike P

    Richard , no disrespect intended but even you got a chuckle out of that price . Your sittin there saying , yeah baby !!!

  • HaHaHa
    Mike P – I knew you’d see Brothers as a bargain sooner or later. LOL

  • Mike P

    You have to be out of your mind !! 50 bucks for a 15 lb bag ?? This food makes Brothers look like a bargin LOL

  • I have been anxiously awaiting their new grain free dry.

    Organix:
    http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/product/organix-grain-free-adult-dog-food-0

    Organix Grain Free Adult
    5.25 lb – $20.99
    14.5 lb – $52.99

    Balanced, grain-free nutrition for happy, healthy adult dogs.The #1 ingredient in our ORGANIX Grain-Free Adult Dog Food is organic, free-range chicken. We follow that with a high quality chicken meal, made from natural, USDA-inspected chickens. That combination gives our food a protein-rich highly digestible and grain-free foundation.
    ORGANIX Grain-Free Adult Dog Food also contains:

    •Organic peas to deliver protein, fiber, B vitamins and potassium
    •Organic flaxseed to deliver omega 3 & 6 fatty acids that contribute to healthy skin and coat
    •100% complete and balanced nutrition for adult dogs.
    Our organic ingredients are produced without chemical pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, artificial preservatives, added growth hormones or antibiotics. And, our formula contains no corn or wheat. In other words, we use only the good stuff, none of the bad.

    Ingredients
    Organic Chicken, Poultry Meal, Organic Tapioca, Organic Peas, Organic Soybean Meal, Organic Potato, Dried Egg Product, Salmon Meal, Poultry Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Organic Chicken Liver, Natural Chicken Flavor, Organic Flaxseed, Salt, Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2 Polyphosphate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Yeast Culture (Saccharomyces cerevisiae), Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Aspergillus Niger Fermentation Extract, Dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum Fermentation Extract, Dried Bacillus subtilis Fermentation Solubles, Rosemary Extract.

    Guaranteed Analysis
    Crude Protein (min.) 30.00%
    Crude Fat (min.) 12.00%
    Crude Fiber (max.) 3.50%
    Moisture (max.) 10.00%
    Calcium (min.) 1.00%
    Phosphorus (min.) 0.80%
    Vitamin E (min.) 75 IU/kg
    Omega 6 Fatty Acids (min.)* 1.75%
    Omega 3 Fatty Acids (min.)* 0.65%

    Natural Ultramix Grain-Free & Poultry Free Adult

    http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/product/natural-ultramix-grain-free-poultry-free-adult-dog-food

    5.5 lb – $19.99
    15 lb – $49.99

    Our grain-free & poultry-free recipe uses salmon as the #1 ingredient, followed by other fish-based protein sources for optimal nutrition and great taste. Real pieces of minimally processed fruits and vegetables provide a natural source of antioxidants, vitamins, and fiber that you can actuallysee in the bag. And there are plenty of other powerful benefits that aren’t visible to the eye, including Omega 3 and 6 Fatty Acids that contribute to healthy skin and a luxurious coat, and a balanced Calcium to Phosphorous ratio that helps promote healthy bones and teeth. Natural Ultramix Grain-Free & Poultry-Free Adult Dog Food is made without artificial colors and preservatives, grains, and poultry.

    Ingredients
    Salmon, Salmon Meal, Herring Meal, Menhaden Fish Meal, Dried Peas, Dried Potato, Tapioca Starch, Canola Oil (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Pea Protein Concentrate, Tomato Pomace, Dried Bananas, Natural Salmon Flavor, Ground Whole Flaxseed, Brewers Dried Yeast, Dried Carrots, Monocalcium Phosphate, Salt, Freeze Dried Peas, Potassium Chloride, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Cranberries, Dried Sweet Potatoes, Fructooligosaccharide, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2 Polyphosphate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Choline Chloride, Rosemary Extract.

    Crude Protein (min.) 30.00%
    Crude Fat (min.) 15.00%
    Crude Fiber (max.) 4.50%
    Moisture (max.) 10.00%
    Calcium (min.) 1.20%
    Phosphorus (min.) 1.00%
    Vitamin E (min.) 75 IU/kg
    Omega 6 Fatty Acids (min.)* 2.25%
    Omega 3 Fatty Acids (min.)* 1.75%

    Natural Ultramix Grain-Free Adult Dog

    http://www.castorpolluxpet.com/product/natural-ultramix-grain-free-adult-dog-food

    5.5 lb – $19.99
    15 lb – $49.99

    Our grain-free recipe uses natural chicken as the #1 ingredient, followed by other poultry and fish-based protein sources for optimal nutrition and great taste. Real pieces of minimally processed fruits and vegetables provide a natural source of antioxidants, vitamins, and fiber that you can actuallysee in the bag. And there are plenty of other powerful benefits that aren’t visible to the eye, including Omega 3 and 6 Fatty Acids that contribute to healthy skin and a luxurious coat, and a balanced Calcium to Phosphorous ratio that helps promote healthy bones and teeth. Natural Ultramix Grain-Free Adult Dog Food contains no artificial colors or preservatives, and no grains.

    Chicken, Chicken Meal, Turkey Meal, Dried Peas, Dried Potato, Tapioca Starch, Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid), Tomato Pomace, Dried Bananas, Ground Whole Flaxseed, Natural Chicken Flavor, Dried Carrots, Salmon Meal, Dried Egg Product, Brewers Dried Yeast, Potassium Chloride, Monocalcium Phosphate, Salt, Freeze Dried Peas, Dicalcium Phosphate, Dried Cranberries, Dried Sweet Potatoes, Fructooligosaccharide, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2 Polyphosphate, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Niacin, Riboflavin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Biotin, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Choline Chloride, Rosemary Extract.

    Crude Protein (min.) 30.00%
    Crude Fat (min.) 15.00%
    Crude Fiber (max.) 5.00%
    Moisture (max.) 10.00%
    Calcium (min.) 1.20%
    Phosphorus (min.) 1.00%
    Vitamin E (min.) 75 IU/kg
    Omega 6 Fatty Acids (min.)* 2.25%
    Omega 3 Fatty Acids (min.)* 0.50%

    Natural Ultramix Grain-Free Adult Dog Food is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles for maintenance.

  • Hi Sean… Due to its moderate (average) apparent meat content suggested by its Guaranteed Analysis, Organix is really only a 4-star product. The organic nature of its ingredients helps push it up to the 5-star category. If organic ingredients aren’t all that important to you, then this should be thought of as a 4-star kibble.

    Regarding this products omega-3 DHA and EPA content, you’d need to call Castor and Pollux and ask them for a breakdown. That should help you decide whethjer you need to use a fish oil supplement. Hope this helps.

  • Sean Wood

    Hi Mike,

    Two things. First, I think Kim’s question was this: What is the insufficiency in Organix that would cause it to only be a four star dog food if the ingredients were not organic?

    The second question concerns DHA. From your comments here: http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/frequently-asked-questions/dog-food-ingredients/ and from this page: http://www.healthy-oil-planet.com/omega-3-fatty-acids.html (and elsewhere) it appears that I do want DHA in my dog’s diet. Looking at the ingredient list of Organix, the Omega-3 Fatty Acids could come from plant sources (flaxseed, which would not contain DHA) or from fish oil (salmon meal, which would contain DHA). Is there any way to find out? Does it really make a difference? Would it be a good idea to use a supplement such as Cod Liver Oil that I know contains DHA?

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Yes Sandi – From what I understand, C&P is launching grain-free in both their Ultramix and Organix lines. It will be interesting to see the variety of carbs that are in their no-grain formulas.

  • Sandi

    I found out from C&P they will be coming out with grain free kibble Chicken and also Salmon mid-July. Customer service was going to let me know when that info will be on their website.

    I’m really happy with their canned organix turkey. I add it into the kibble.

  • April

    I have a so-called 8lb. 4yr. old male Mi-ki. This is a newer breed, not yet “AKC”‘d. Since I receivwd him, as a pup, he’s had itchy skin and a tender tummy. The breeder sent him with Eukanuba and a daily powdered supplement. After a year, I replaced that with Nutro Ultra and an oil supplement. He never really liked it but ate it, grudgingly. Yesterday I tried a bit of Castor Pollux lamb dry food. He picked out the veg and fruit pieces and nosed the kibble around the floor as if to say,”You think I’m eating that?” Today, I tried a bit of Castor and Pollux Organix. BINGO! I’ll let you know how it all turns out. Hopefully the itching will stop and his tummy will be happier.

  • Hi Kim… Our reviews are never based solely upon whether a food is organic or not. For that is not the purpose of this website. There are many 4 and 5-star dog foods that have no organic ingredients at all. Please see our FAQ page and look for the topic, “How We Rate Dog Food”. Hope this helps.

  • Kim

    Mike, why would you give Organix a 4-star rating if the ingredients weren’t organic? I’m very curious. Thanks 🙂

  • Hi Patti… As I mention in this review, the chicken meal is more likely the dominant ingredient is this food. By the way, compared to other kibbles, C & P Organix would be more accurately labeled a 4-star dog food. But the organic nature of many of the components made us tip this one a bit higher in our ratings.

  • Patti

    Natural Balance was one of my choices also but, and correct me if i am wrong, their food contains chicken as the first ingredient, then rice. So with all I have read, since the chicken is 80% water that would actually push it down the list making rice the main ingredient?

  • Patti

    Mainly because she seems to be more gassy and her stools are softer on Orijen. Also, because a friend/breeder of Bernese recommended that I keep her protein closer to 22%, but i think her reasons are the ones that were disputed on the link (thanks for the info). A minor reason is because I can only get Orijen at a feed store about 30-40 minutes from my house.

    I am pretty new to this whole dog food research, and my head is pretty much spinning. I went to an independant pet store in my area and Petco to see what foods. I narrowed my research down to Organix and Blue Buffalo, but with the recall on Blue Buffalo decided on Organix. The problem with Organix is that Petco only had one bag of puppy on the shelf and the Best if Used By date was June 2011, which meant it was almost a year old.

    Head still spinning …… 🙂

  • Jonathan

    Patti, for what reason do you want to lower her protein?

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/frequently-asked-questions/dog-food-protein-faq/

  • Patti

    I am planning on changing my puppies food, and after several weeks of research I have decided to change to Castor & Pollux dry (she is currently on Orijen puppy and i want to lower her protein, plus it is not sold in my area). Can anyone tell me the difference, besides 5 star vs. 4 star, between the Organix and Ultramix, and which (in your opinion) would be better? My second choice was the Natural Balance. Is there really a difference between large breed puppy food and small breed puppy food? I have a Bernese puppy.

  • Hi Carol RI… You may find some help on our FAQ page. Look for the topic, “Dog Food Allergies”. There’s also a link on that page to our list of suggested hypoallergenic dog foods. Hope this helps.

  • Carol RI

    Hi All:
    I have been feeding my Cocker Spaniels Wellness Simple Food Solutions Rice/Lamb. It works well as one has allergies – but rice being the first ingredient has me concerned. I do need a dog food with limited ingredients.
    I am considering Castor Pollux Organix – but am concerned as to whether it will help allergies as well like the Wellness.
    Please – any suggestions/comments appreciated

  • Cathy

    diane – I agree, Nutro is no comparison to C&P Organix. If Organix has a high meat content for their new grain-free, then their formula would definitely be superior in the kibble category. It will be interesting to see what Castor and Pollux does with their Ultramix formulas.

  • diane

    Cathy,
    Also Nutro is no comparison to Organix….

  • diane

    Cathy….I hope so too. I had my 4 dogs on Organix but didnt want the grains, so I switched them to Acana Wild Prairie. I will be curious to see what Castor and Pollux does with their grain-free recipe. They are a great company…
    Diane

  • Jonathan

    Antonio, my point was to separate the difference between meal and fresh meat. I don’t think a dog eating raw will necessarily live any longer than a dog eating a 5 star kibble. They probably don’t live long enough to begin with for the small difference to have an effect. I do, however, think dogs feed the highest quality stuff probably develop slightly fewer health problems later in life. But again, we are only talking about a couple of months worth of life. Dogs don’t naturally live more than 15 or so years no matter how well they are cared for. A dog living to 15 is like us living to our 80’s. A dog stretching past that is like us getting into our 100’s. So I agree with you, Antonio, to the extent that raw probably won’t cause a dog to live longer than a 4 or 5 star kibble. But is raw meat what canines evolved eating? Absolutely! That’s why I would favor raw, if I could afford it and had the time to put into it. But I don’t think I am doing anything wrong by my dog with the food she eats. 🙂 Oh and you have quite the handsome pup there, despite the fact that I am terrified of dobbies!

  • Mike P

    Antonio , we had a dog when I was a kid that lived 15 years . We feed table scraps and some cheap ass can dog food . I am really confused . I do know that dog got plenty of exercise . 5 kids played with that dog every day . weird

  • Antonio

    Jonathan, btw,, nice pic of your dog,, and I can see from the pic that dog owns you LOL. Great pic man.. keep up the good work.

  • Antonio

    Jonathan, I do wholeheartedly agree, but again I’ll stand by this argument until science or some other evidence proves differently. There’s no proof of dogs living any longer or healthier on a raw diet versus those eating a quality kibble over the same lifespan. You won’t find these studies b/c they don’t exist, and it’s not expensive to do, it would be time exhausting, so if raw advocates wanted to prove this point it could have or would have easily been made years ago. Raw feeding is nothing new, a few select farmers in my region done it yearrrrrs ago as it was cheaper b/c the meat was already available as oppose to leaving their farms going by a generic brand kibble. Those dogs lived average lives, but nothing noticeably different from what I’ve seen by dogs fed Diamond over the course of it’s life. Again, I understand the logic, but all theories must be proven before they can be conclusive and fact.

  • Jonathan

    Antonio, I think the best way to sum up the concept is this… would you rather get 20 grams of protein by eating a juicy 12-oz rib-eye… or a few tablespoons of a beef-based protein powder? Both the 12-oz rib-eye and the few tablespoon fulls of powder contain the same amount of protein… but what about quality? The powder has been cooked like crazy to extract the moister. And if we know anything about overcooking, it’s that it degrades the quality of the end-product. Like Mike always mentions, no kibble can be better than the ingredients used to make it. And that’s true. Because once you cook those ingredients at high temperatures and make kibble, what you end up with is obviously nothing natural… and a kibble is in no way “better” than if the dog were given the individual ingredients fresh to eat.

  • Antonio

    has = had

  • Antonio

    Which basically means the concentrated meal will contain more protein and that makes sense, it’s pretty much the same concept with meal replacement or protein shakes. Plus the average dog would have to eat wayyyy more cans in comparison to the amount of dry kibble they can consume and get the same nutrients. But I assume at the end of the day it’s all preference, b/c my Grand dad has a dalmation/mix, that lived a decent life on canned food and table scraps.

  • The amount of water in meat is 70-80% and in chicken meal it’s about 10%. So, a 4 ounce serving of chicken and a 4 ounce serving of chicken meal weight the same. But that’s the end of their similarity. Once you remove the water, you’re left with mainly protein. The 4 ounce meal will contain almost 4 times the amount of protein as the raw chicken.

    By the way, AAFCO relies on dry matter basis in order to make fair comparisons between products. You can read more about dry matter basis by clicking the dry matter link in any one of my reviews. Hope this helps.

  • Cathy

    Antonio – Mike’s detailed explanation is in this article:
    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choosing-dog-food/dry-matter-basis/

  • Antonio

    I understand your point, but when comparing 4oz of chicken meal versus 4oz of meat. The chicken meal is clearly more concentrated. And if you throw out using the dry matter basis then your no longer dealing with chicken meal, but actual water containing chicken meat, so I guess I’m a bit confused on that calculation.

  • Cathy

    Antonio – Your fresh chicken and fish contains alot of moisture, so it’s not an equitable comparison, which is why Mike uses ‘dry matter basis’ in all his reviews on this website.
    Even though I don’t like Paw Naturaw’s customer service, their website is pretty good at comparing G.A. and ingredient content. For example, Paw Naturaw sells an Organic Chicken Formula, and below I’ve copied the detail they provide, which shows wet matter protein as 17%; but protein, bone and organ ingredients are listed as over 82% (74.5% + 7.9%).
    Dry matter protein %, which Mike calculates for fair comparison, is in between the wet matter and the actual protein, which he explains in detail on how he rates foods.

    http://www.pawnaturaw.com/analyses.html#chicken
    GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
    Crude Protein 17% min
    Crude Fat 8% min
    Crude Fiber .24% max
    Moisture 69% max

    INGREDIENT CATEGORIZATION TOTAL % IN DIET
    Organic Chicken & Ground Bone (USDA Inspected) 74.5%
    Organic Chicken Organs 7.9%
    Organic Fruits & Vegetables 16.6%
    Vitamin, Mineral, & Organic Oil Supplements 1%

    So, by comparison, Paw Naturaw includes a pile of meat protein and minimal carbs, compared to Nutro Grain-Free that has lower protein and a pile of carbs, mostly from potatoes.

  • Antonio… A 21% dry matter protein content in any food is typical of any carb-laden, low meat protein dog food. As a matter of fact, 18% is minimum accepted by AAFCO for adult maintenance and 20% is the minimum for growth and reproduction.

    The average protein content for raw dog foods in our database currently stands at 46.9%. However, that figure can change whenever we add new recipes.

  • Antonio

    I guess I was basing my information on the packaging label for meats that I purchase for myself, such as chicken and fish. Generally the protein content per serving 4oz, isn’t anywhere near 40g per serving.

  • Cathy

    Antonio – Most of the raw foods listed on this website have a protein content in the 40% range and higher, as described by Mike in his calculation on dry matter basis. Raw feeding is about double in protein content over the Nutro potato-laden grain-free formula.

  • Antonio

    Cathy, isn’t 21% protein about a realistic protein content amount when feeding raw? If that’s the case I don’t understand why it would be considered a low protein amount in kibble.

  • Cathy

    Diane – I hope the new Castor and Pollux grain-free has a decent meat protein content, and that it’s not a pile of carbs with a little meat! The new Nutro grain-free is a big disappointment at 21% protein GA.

  • Thanks for the tip, Diane. I’ll keep a watch out for it.

  • diane

    Mike,
    Just an FYI…Castor and Pollux Organix will be coming out with a grain-free recipe over the summer. I had emailed them to ask if they ever thought about doing a grain-free and that’s what they emailed me back. I’m looking forward to it !
    Diane

  • Hi Pamela… Thanks for sharing this with our readers. I am currently working on an important article regarding the controversial (but difficult to avoid) issue of the use of imported ingredients in commercial dog foods. So, stay tuned.

  • I asked them “I am thinking of alternating my dogs current food with your Castor & Pollux Organix Adult Canine formula. I would like to know where your food is manufactured and if you get any of your ingredients from other countries besides the USA.”
    “Almost all of our ingredient are from the US and Canada, however we do at times source some ingredients from other countries which might include France, Japan, Ecuador, Pakistan, Australia, New Zealand, Czech Republic, Argentina, India, Poland, and the Philippines.

    There is also a small amount in our vitamin and mineral premix that is from China. This an ever changing list due to supply and demand issues, however we try to limit sourcing from China as much as possible.

    Attached is additional information on organic ingredients for your review.

    We do test using an independent third party for all of our testing. Our ingredients are tested upon arrival, samples are tested throughout production and all finished product is tested for toxins and contaminants before we release it for sale.”

  • Mechi Irizarry

    I have a rescued Bichon Maltese who now has heart problems and a tumor in his kidney. He also has some digestive problems due to the type of food he ate when he was in the streets. So far, this has been the only food that he is able to eat and tolerate. I contacted the company regarding the amount of sodium on their food, because he needs to be on a low sodium diet. After the information from the company consulting with his vet and cardiologist, he was able to stay on it. He doesn’t shows any more problems with reflux or colitis. My other dog is a terrier/chihuahua mix and was a little overweight. she lost two pound since starting on this food. I can only say, they no longer scratch themselves, they no longer lick their paws, their coat is shinny and they are healthy and doing very well. I do recommend this food with my eyes closed!

  • Hi Suzanne… Unfortunately, we don’t track assayed mineral content. Within the parameters of trust, we consider (by default) a company claiming to meet AAFCO nutritional profiles also contains a safe amount of selenium.

    However, the controversy over selenium is more related to its form as sodium selenite and not with its simple the elemental form (selenium). We plan on covering this subject in more depth a future article.

  • Suzanne

    Right after I wrote that note I saw Stacey’s comment that sodium selenite is in Castor & Pollux, and your reply that all minerals can be delivered in a dog food in various forms (such as elemental selenium versus sodium selenite). And each form can have a different toxic threshold before it can be considered dangerous. What about the amount in Castor Pollux?

  • Suzanne

    Dear Mike,

    I want to thank you with all my heart for the research and work you do to help us and our dogs. My dogs are all rescued, and it is important for them to be fed the right food. I tried many top brands, some that rated “5” on your site, some were shipped and some bought locally, and they caused digestive problems for my dogs. When you rated Castor and Pollux, I was unfamiliar with it, but decided to try it on your recommendation.

    Castor and Pollux dog food solved the problem, my dogs are doing great on this dog food, dry and canned combined, and I really appreciate your help! My dogs are already healthier, look great and have no digestive problems. I am so thankful.
    One of my rescued dogs had to be treated for cancer and for heartworms, and this food has really helped her overall health, and she is looking great now.

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • Hi Donna… Yeast culture is added to dog foods as both a nutritional supplement and as a probiotic. Probiotics are used to enhance a dog’s digestive and immune functions. Unless your dog is specifically allergic to yeast, most experts consider this ingredient a healthy addition to a dog food.

    So far, I’ve never found any scientific articles linking canine ear infections to yeast ingredients found in food. In most cases, yeast-type ear infections are caused by living organisms found in (or on) a dog’s body itself and are usually in association with allergies or mite infestations.

    Even though organic standards can vary from country to country, these type of ingredients should still be considered a major improvement over the non-organic ingredients typically found in most commercial dog foods.

  • Donna

    Want to try this but not sure about the Yeast Culture? My dogs are prone to yeast in their ears. Have all seniors and been so disappointed with dog food companies. I am also not sure of the sourcing. The organic label is certified internationally which concerns me. Any ideas???

  • Bob

    I am bringing home a new Rat terrier puppy.
    I recently switched my other Ratty’s to this and love it.
    Would this mix be acceptable for a Puppy?

  • Hi Stacy… Selenium is an essential mineral for both dogs and humans. However, all minerals can be delivered in a dog food in various forms (such as elemental selenium versus sodium selenite). And each form can have a different toxic threshold before it can be considered dangerous.

    Toxicosis is the medical word for poisoning. Although selenium is essential for life, any mineral or vitamin can be excessive and cause toxicosis.

    The recent Blue Buffalo dog food recall is a perfect example of how even too much of a vitamin (in this case, vitamin D) can become toxic.

    And selenium is no exception.

    According to AAFCO, the maximum amount of selenium recommended for dog food is 2.0 mg/kg which is 18 times the minimum (0.11 mg/kg) for this mineral.

    Even though AAFCO sets a maximum limit to most minerals, the National Academy of Science has not determined the safe upper limit (SUL) for most mineral nutrients (including selenium).

    But here’s the real problem. Other ingredients (grains, meats, bone) naturally contain minerals… before a dog food manufacturer actually adds the vitamin and mineral supplements to the recipe.

    So, unless you test each and every batch of food, you never truly know whether you are exceeding the (still unestablished) safe upper limit of a mineral.

    Although no one can assure you every dog (or people) food product you buy will be 100% safe from the potential long term build-up of minerals, you can take at least some comfort in the apparently safe margin between the AAFCO minimums and the maximums.

  • Stacy

    Please explain why they put sodium selenite in most dog foods such as Castor & Pollux and how safe is it?

  • Hi Karen… With a slightly below-average fiber content of 3.9% (dry matter), this puppy food cannot be considered excessive in fiber.

  • Karen

    I was excited to find this wonderful puppy food for my 8 month old Shih Tzu, who was eating Veterinary Formula for puppies. I have been transitioning slowly (it’s been 5 days so far) and we are about 50% changed over. Quantity of one food to the other has not been increased. Her bowel movements are normal, not loose, but instead of the usual 2 per day, she has been having 4 for the past couple of days so far. Is there too much fiber in this food for her? Will she adjust?

  • Hi Tim… Although many pet owners (and even manufacturers) insist one brand of dog food is better for a particular breed than the others, I’ve never found any reliable scientific evidence that has proven such a claim. However, I’d try to pay more attention to your dog’s life stage, lifestyle, kibble size, food quality and serving sizes than anything else. Simply avoiding the lower quality 1 and 2-star products and focusing on dog foods rated 3 or more stars should help you narrow your choices. Hope this helps.

  • Tim Marshall

    Due to suspected food allergies with our Chesapeak Bay / Coon Hound mix of 5 yrs of age we recently started transitioning from Iams Adult Lamb and Rice formula to Organix adult formula. Tim will tell us if it is effective at resolving the “rash” symptom our guy has been experiencing, however, we are wanting to know that since he is effectively a “large breed” retriever if there should be a concern with Organix not being appropriate for a large breed dog. Many brands offer food specifically for large breed dogs. Is this only important during their puppyhood days and should we be concerned about this issue with our 5 yr old retriever mix at this stage of his life?

  • Jonathan

    Derek, the purpose, sir, is to help people find the best food for their dog. This is, hands down, a great food to be sure. And the difference between most 4 and 5 star foods is like splitting hairs. The reason to go beyond that is just like people that like movies; you don’t find what you think is the best movie ever and just watch that for the rest of your life.

    No food is perfect. So it’s important to know how to spot bad quality ingredients and number fudging. Not to mention many foods are not available to many people. I have never seen this food before in my life. But I have seen Blue Wilderness which is another five star food. And I’ve seen Wellness Core, yet another five star food.

    And don’t forget there are many people that can’t afford the top quality food. They need this site to weed out all the crap foods and find the highest rated food that they can afford.

  • Derek

    My pug does really well on this food, which I mix with a spoon of the wet. My question for the people getting far deeper into the food content than even poor Kevin is this:

    Once we’ve established they are using organic foods, not preserving with anything harmful, etc. do we really need continuous debate on which food is better?

    I mean, you are never going to find the PERFECT, END ALL FOOD out of a bag. If you could, the opposition would either copy or be out of business.

    Calm down is my advice. Find a good food and stick with it. As much as I love my dogs, they aren’t going to live forever.
    Sadly, no matter what food you pick, neither will yours.

    Good luck.

  • Jonathan

    Hey Kevin, I wouldn’t put too much faith in anything that Dogfoodanalysis.com says about meat content. From reading their site, I can only gather that they grade “meat content” by how many NAMED MEATS are listed. And that’s just silly. They say that Pro Pac has “inadequate meat content” and then they say that Blue Buffalo has “just acceptable meat content”. Yet, Pro Pac has slightly more protein. Meaning more meat. Go figure. Their methods of judging dog foods are not as scientific as Mike’s. And if you notice, there are a lot of nice foods (like Pro Pac) that they give ONE STAR to! As if to say Pro Pac is in no way even slightly better than Beneful. A single mention of corn will land a food in their “one star” catagory. That’s dog food snobbery! They only seem to give positive reviews to foods that many people can’t afford which can scare people off from finding a better dog food. Also, they never seem to update their site. Many of their reviews are several years old now, and that, in many cases, makes them invalid because dog foods change ingredients so frequently. All I’m saying is, don’t let their ham-fisted reviews scare you away from a nice dog food like this!

  • kevin

    Hi milke, the reason i want to switch from Acana is because my puppy poo 4-5 times daily. I think the protein level (36%) in Acana made him like that. He poop only 2 times when he was in Royal chanin puppy 33. Also the Acana kibble are too big for my puppy to swallow so I want to switch it to C&P organix puppy formula.

  • Hi Kevin… Both of these foods are 5-star products but each in its own way. Acana is grain free and appears to contain more meat. However, contrary to what you’ve read elsewhere, Castor and Pollux Organix is certainly not low in meat. And we find no soy protein here, either. What’s more, don’t underestimate its use of costly organic ingredients.

    Just the same, if your dog is doing fine on and likes Acana Grain free, why switch?

  • kevin

    dogfoodanalysis.com give this puppy food only 4 stars and it was bordering on a 3 because of the low meat content and low quality protein from soy. So should i switch from Acana grain-free to this.?

  • Hi Nancy… The only data we feel we can reliably trust comes from studying government-regulated pet food labels. To see why we intentionally ignore everything else, you may wish to visit our article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews“. Unfortunately, for manufacturing and sourcing information, you’ll need to contact Castor and Pollux Customer Service. Sorry I can’t be more help.

  • Nancy

    Where is this food made and do any of the ingredients come from China?

  • Jonathan

    Well, it is corn and wheat free. A lot of better food are. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have grains. It does. It looks about the same as Blue Buffalo, except this food is organic. And it has a tad more meat. But staying away from corn, wheat, and soy is realy hip in the fancy dog food right now because studies have show those three ingredients to be the most common causes of dog food allergies and intolerance. Granted, this is probably because they are the most common dog food ingredients in profit first dog foods that get feed to the majority of dogs every day for their entire lives. But to be fair, most foods that claim to be corn, wheat, and soy free also tend to be better foods over all with better quality ingredients. Like this one.

  • emma

    this puppy food claims “No Corn. No Wheat. No meat by-products” , so why it is still grain-based? I thought this is grain-free..anyone knows?

  • Hi Kevin… As you’d expect, every dog food varies in its design (sometimes a lot and other times only subtly). There does appear to be a little more meat in the Acana. But we have to consider the Castor and Pollux components are mostly organic.

    And since each dog responds to a particular food in its own unique way, it would be impossible for me to compare these products and know which one would be the better choice for your dog.

    Since both Acana and Castor and Pollux have been awarded 5-star ratings, I don’t see how you could go wrong with either one. Unfortunately, selecting the right dog food still involves at least some trial and error.

  • kevin

    This is grain-based dry dog food? My puppy is eating Acana grain-free grassland and if i switch him to this grain-based organix is it a downgrade?

  • diane

    Mike,
    I did reach Castor and Pollux at their 800 number. The woman who answered read me a statement stating they did not use ethoxyquin in their salmon meal to preserve including on the ship. Good to hear. My 4 dogs love it !

  • Hi Diane… When manufacturers claim their fish meals are ethoxyquin free, they usually mean they’re not preserved with the chemical during transport at sea. However, to be sure I’m correct (in this case), you’ll need to contact Castor and Pollux.

  • diane

    Castor and Pollux state they don’t preserve with ethoxyquin, but do they state that the supplier of their salmon meal doesn’t preserve with it while it’s still on the ship ?

  • LabLover

    We have been feeding Organix for about 6 months now to our 3 year old Labrador based of your review. He loves it! And unlike most Labs, he’s a picky eater. His coat is very shiny and soft. We couldn’t be more satisfied.

  • Beth

    Thanks for this review. We have a German Shorthaired Pointer with a sensitive stomach (lots of food allergies), and after many different tries, we found this was the ONLY dog food that does not upset his stomach. He’s really thrived on it. We love it!

  • Hi Kim… thanks for sharing your findings regarding the absence of ethoxyquin in this Castor and Pollux product. I’ve corrected the review to reflect this updated information.

  • Kim

    Mike, I wrote to Castor and Pollux and asked if they used ethoxyquin on the fish meals.. the response
    “Our formulas are preserved with natural preservatives; in our Organix® Chicken Fat Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols (a natural source of Vitamin E). For our Natural Ultramix® we use Chicken Fat (Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Citric Acid). We also use natural preservatives in our fish meals, we do not use ethoxyquin or BHA or BHT as a preservative for our fish meals.”

  • Hi Char… The “less active” product appears (by our analysis) to be a bit light on meat content… so its rating was reduced to 4-stars.

  • Char

    Why is the “weight control” only 4 stars?