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Ugh, now with the grain free search
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LuckyLab
MemberHey guys,
My 9 week Yellow lab has been chewing on his paws. Not at a super alarming amount but enough that Iāve began to notice. The Diamond Puppy food the breeder has him on has by products and then two wheat ingredients so I suspect it may be the food. I had decided to switch him to Fromm Lrg. Puppy but its not Grain free and I donāt love their Heartland (which is grain free).
Iām also a fan of the Precise Holistic lrg. breed pup food but thatās also not grain free. If we are going to upgrade his dog food weād like to do it only once if possible and try the grain free, see if it helps and if it doesnāt weāll have the vet run some tests. Iām going to put in a call to her tomorrow either way to be sure this is the correct course of action.
Any Large Breed Puppy kibbles you can suggest? Natureās Variety looks great but its just too expensive. We may be able to swing Orijen but if Iām going to spend that on food Iād want to know for certain it fixed the problem. Other than Orijen and Natures Variety and suggestions?
anonymous
MemberHe is too young to be diagnosedā¦..but it could be environmental allergies, wipe his feet off or rinse with plain water every time he comes in from the outside, especially after coming in from stepping in grass covered with morning dew. Letās hope the allergies (if thatās what it is) are mild and seasonal.
The only way to rule out food sensitivities would be an elimination diet/prescription food under the guidance of a vet.
Veterinary Dermatologists donāt advise testing until the symptoms have been going on for 1 year/4 seasons or are are severe, and have not responded to treatment by the regular vet.
Wait and see what your vet suggests for food as it may not be related.
What about ProPlan Focus Large Breed puppy https://www.chewy.com/purina-pro-plan-focus-puppy-large/dp/52425anonymous
MemberOh, I forgot to mention. Donāt be fooled by mail in hair and saliva tests, they are not allergy tests. They are bogus.
Also, donāt apply any over the counter remedies to the paws, just wipe them off with a wet towel and dry, this should help.
Ps: If the symptoms continue/become problematic and eventually get diagnosed as environmental allergies. Alert the breeder, as there tends to be a genetic link.This is not veterinary advice; consult your veterinarian.
LuckyLab
MemberReally good advice I think, Iām hoping itās just a puppy being a puppy. Well wipe his feet off and see if that helps. The chewing is still mild so hoping it passes or is unrelated to allergies.
Susan
ParticipantHi Brain,
buy some āMalasebā Medicated shampoo & bath weekly to wash off any allergens that may be on paws & skin, Malaseb is excellent for itchy skin, red paws, yeasty smelly skin, environment allergies & is mild enough to use dailyā¦.Have a look at āCanidaeā they also make āUnder The Sunā a cheaper range of dog formulaās, thereās Under The Sun, Puppy formula with healthy ingredients, page 1, bottom right..
I think itās Ok to feed a growing large breed pup a kibble that has healthy grains, like brown rice, oatmeal etc & also has potatoes, sweet potatoes, peas, blueberries, beans, carrots etc grain free ingredients as well, I donāt know what these kibbles are called they have both, Iāve noticed a lot of large breed puppy formulaās donāt have the bad old ingredients like corn, wheat, gluten meal & soy but will have healthy grains nowā¦
thereās Canidae Pure Foundations puppy grain free, page 3, top left
then there is Canidaeās new vet formulated All Life Stages, Large Breed, Turkey Meal & Brown Rice formula on page 4, bottom rightā¦..
or thereās Canidae Life Stages large breed puppy, Duck Meal, Brown Rice & Lentils page 5
https://www.canidae.com/dog-food/productsI would look for 2 large breed kibbles that both are different brands & have a different protein & rotate between the twoā¦..A rotational diet allows a better chance of providing a more complete & balanced dietā¦..This is particularly important for young animals, the idea is that by allowing short exposure to a wider variety of protein types, the immune system is primed to a larger range of potential allergens which strengthen the immune system & may reduce the risk of allergies or symptoms developingā¦.
I feed 1 brand kibble for breakfast & I feed a different brand & protein kibble for dinner..pitlove
ParticipantAt 9 weeks old it is a slim to none chance that heās experiencing a food allergy or sensitivity. Grain allergies are also extremely uncommon dispite what people on the internet say.
Anon101 had the best suggestion of wiping his feet off when he comes in from outside. Constantly switching his food at only 9 weeks is liking to do more harm than good. Realistically his food shouldnāt have been switched until he had a chance to adjust to his new environment since the move can be stressful on them.
anonymous
MemberI would suggest just plain water and towel dry for paw wipes and a very gentle puppy shampoo such as Seargentās Fur So Fresh for baths (no more than once a week unless advise differently by your vet).
Malaseb is an excellent shampoo especially when used in conjunction with other treatments, however, it may not be indicated for your pup.
It is usually prescribed by a vet for specific skin conditions, and is a little pricey.
Keep his diet simple and get him some safe chew toys, he will be teething soon :/This is not veterinary advice; consult your veterinarian
anonymous
MemberI am very pleased with Zignature Whitefish kibble, I donāt know if Zignature makes a large breed puppy food, but if you go to their website they tend to answer questions promptly.
The food is not cheap, but then neither is going back and forth to the vet.
Sometimes it is worth it to pay a little bit more.Regarding grain free diets, hope this helps:
https://www.mspca.org/angell_services/choosing-the-right-diet-for-your-pet/
excerpt below:
Grain free diets have become all the rage in the last few years. I suspect this has stemmed from greater recognition of gluten sensitivity in humans. Most pet food companies have jumped on the band wagon following the marketing success of grain free human diets. The truth of the matter is that there are no dog or cat studies showing a health benefit to grain free foods. A myth has been perpetuated that grains are unhealthy. In fact, whole grains contribute vitamins, minerals and essential fatty acids and are highly digestible by dogs and cats. Allergies to grains are actually very rare, and only the Irish Setter breed has been demonstrated to have a gluten sensitivity. Many grain free diets substitute potatoes and tapioca, which have less protein, more sugar, and less fiber. And typically these come at a higher cost.LuckyLab
MemberThanks guys, lots of great information.
We havenāt switched him off his original kibble yet. Heās only been home with us 1 week, weāre not going to mess with his diet until at least 3 weeks with us if not a bit longer.
Pit, I agree we only want to change him once so we are wiping his legs and just monitoring him for the time being. We have a 3rd vaccination appointment in about 3 weeks, and weāll have watched him long enough to talk about switching food and if we thing something is up with the chewing.
Iāve heard good things about zignature as well, but they donāt do a large breed pup formula. We may just try Fromm Complete Health once heās good to switch and see how he tolerates that.
LuckyLab
MemberHe continues to lick and mildly chew what primarily seems to be his back legs. When I rub, gently squeeze or pull on them he doesnāt react like there is pain. We rinsed his legs off pretty good yesterday and when I put him out this morning sure enough he sat down in the grass and licked his belly and back legs.
We only notice it 3-4 times a day so itās not constantly bugging him just occasionally.
Heās still on the food the breeder had him on originally, Diamond Puppy so no food switch yet.
If it continues another day or two I may take him back to the vet to have him checked out.
anonymous
MemberThe pollen count is high where I am.
Heās just a puppy, he hasnāt fully developed his immune system yet.
Try not to worry too much. But, obviously, check with the vet if it continues .LuckyLab
Memberanon101,
I think thatās good advice. My vetās office does not seem overly concerned, while they havenāt seen him specifically for that issue we had him in last week for his wellness check/2nd vaccine and they said he checked out perfectly. They left me with the ābring him in if you want, but it doesnāt sound overly alarmingā response more or less.
We are going to still watch it and wait another week before slowly transitioning him into a new food. Iāve had a lot of people in my area say allergies are worse this year than theyāve been in the past. Heās only chewing/licking 2-3 times a day at most and itās quick then heās done. Iām guessing it doesnāt warrant a special appointment unless we see an escalation. He has to go in later in July for another round of vaccines, we may just wait till then and ask.
I think we are going to transition him into a new food sometime next week very slowly (Fromm Gold) but stick with the grain version for the time being. No need to exclude that unless the vet advises.
LuckyLab
MemberHe does seem to always try to eat grass, dandelions or whatever plant he can get his mouth on in our backyard. Not sure if thatās related or not, our old Lab seemed to always want to eat grass as well. I try to discourage it but canāt always catch him.
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