Sign in or Register
Search Forums
Recent Topics
-
Easy Cat Pregnancy Calculator for Cat Owners
by
whatbreed ismycat
3 months, 3 weeks ago -
How do I keep a dog entertained passively?
by
George Lawson
3 months, 3 weeks ago -
Best enrichment toys for a smart dog? Others are getting boring.
by
George Lawson
4 months ago -
Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
by
Nicole E
5 months, 3 weeks ago -
dog vitamins
by
zoee lee
2 months, 3 weeks ago
Recent Replies
-
Shiba Mom on Maev Dog Food
-
alder wyn on Are you looking for dog dresses or puppy clothes?
-
Lis Tewert on Meijer Brand Dog Food
-
Emilia Foster on dog vitamins
-
Robert Butler on The Right Stuff
-
Jeffrey Clarke on Whole Paws Review
-
Adam Parker on Acid Reflux
-
William Beck on Football match with dog
-
alvin marrero on Has your dog stopped eating their kibble?
-
fnf gopro on What health issues are you trying to address with this supplement?
-
Kills F on My Dog wants to chase cars.
-
Nicole E on Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
-
Dogfoodguides on Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
-
malomurd on Poop pills for dogs with IBD??
-
malomurd on Recommendations for shelf-stable, high-quality wet or dry food
Reply To: What’s your take on this from the FDA
I think some of our alarm over this may be premature. Most of the dogs who’ve presented with DCM are Golden Retrievers. A few others are in the mix who aren’t typically prone to DCM like Goldens are, which is what triggered the alert. The common thread seems to be grain-free and/or exotic diets (kangaroo and quinoa, things like that). I considered home cooking with a good vet-approved supplement, but home diets aren’t ideal — it’s hard to get them right. Most vets recommend AGAINST home cooking and ARE recommending a big-brand grain-included food (Royal Canin, Iams, Purina, etc.) — but 1) most of those foods do have pea/legume ingredients and/or potatoes somewhere in the mix, and 2) most of the cases of DCM (though not all) have taurine deficiency. Low taurine has been pinpointed as the culprit in DCM in cats for many years, and many dog foods now have added taurine. It’s important to note that most dietary taurine comes from meats, not grains — it’s not the lack of grains that’s the problem with grain-free foods, though added potatoes and/or legumes may block or diminish taurine absorption. I feed Wellness grain-free Core (chicken variety) and Koby and I both like it — it’s not full of chemical additives like the big-name brands are (which may be carcinogens), its protein level is high, Dogfood Advisor gives it 5 stars, and it does have added taurine. I have just had Koby (who shows no signs of heart failure or any other health problem) tested for taurine — I don’t have the results back yet but they should be in this week and I will post them. In the meantime, while we wait for more information on what’s really going on here — and unless Koby’s taurine level comes back low or he shows signs of DCM — I’m continuing to feed Wellness Core because it’s AAFCO tested, human grade, good protein level, taurine added, and Koby likes it and has always been very healthy on it. He’s about 4 (he was a rescue and a stray before that) but I’ve had him over two years and he’s been on this food since I got him (and when he was in foster through Cairn Rescue he was on another grain free, don’t remember which) — so he’s been grain-free for quite a while.
One or two of the Goldens with DCM in the UC Davis study were on Wellness Core — but Goldens are much more likely to develop DCM than most other breeds. I don’t recall whether these Goldens were taurine-deficient. Someone on this thread posted the link to the spreadsheet from that study, or at least I think I got it from this thread, but I can’t find it now. I would very much like to find it again — if anyone out there reading this is the one who posted the link, PLEASE post again!
Sign in or Register
Search Forums
Recent Topics
-
Easy Cat Pregnancy Calculator for Cat Owners
by
whatbreed ismycat
3 months, 3 weeks ago -
How do I keep a dog entertained passively?
by
George Lawson
3 months, 3 weeks ago -
Best enrichment toys for a smart dog? Others are getting boring.
by
George Lawson
4 months ago -
Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
by
Nicole E
5 months, 3 weeks ago -
dog vitamins
by
zoee lee
2 months, 3 weeks ago
Recent Replies
-
Shiba Mom on Maev Dog Food
-
alder wyn on Are you looking for dog dresses or puppy clothes?
-
Lis Tewert on Meijer Brand Dog Food
-
Emilia Foster on dog vitamins
-
Robert Butler on The Right Stuff
-
Jeffrey Clarke on Whole Paws Review
-
Adam Parker on Acid Reflux
-
William Beck on Football match with dog
-
alvin marrero on Has your dog stopped eating their kibble?
-
fnf gopro on What health issues are you trying to address with this supplement?
-
Kills F on My Dog wants to chase cars.
-
Nicole E on Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
-
Dogfoodguides on Need healthier alternatives to Purina Moist & Meaty
-
malomurd on Poop pills for dogs with IBD??
-
malomurd on Recommendations for shelf-stable, high-quality wet or dry food