Nature’s Logic (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★★

Nature’s Logic Dog Food earns the Advisor’s top rating of 5 stars.

The Nature’s Logic Dog Food product line lists eight dry recipes.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

  • Nature’s Logic Canine Beef Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Lamb Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Rabbit Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Sardine Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Turkey Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Venison Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Chicken Meal Feast [A]
  • Nature’s Logic Canine Duck and Salmon Meal Feast [A]

Nature’s Logic Canine Rabbit Meal Feast was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Nature's Logic Canine Rabbit Meal Feast

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 38% | Fat = 18% | Carbs = 36%

Ingredients: Rabbit meal, turkey meal, millet, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), pumpkin seed, yeast culture, spray dried pork liver, dried egg product, alfalfa nutrient concentrate, montmorillonite clay, dried kelp, spray dried lamb plasma, dried tomato, almonds, dried chicory root, dried carrot, dried apple, menhaden fish meal, dried pumpkin, dried apricot, dried blueberry, dried spinach, dried broccoli, dried cranberry, parsley, dried artichoke, rosemary, dried mushroom, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus casei fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium bifidium fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, dried Bacillus coagulans fermentation product, dried pineapple extract, dried Aspergillus niger fermentation extract, dried Aspergillus oryzae fermentation extract, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis38%18%NA
Dry Matter Basis38%18%36%
Calorie Weighted Basis32%37%31%
Protein = 32% | Fat = 37% | Carbs = 31%

The first ingredient in this dog food is rabbit meal. Rabbit meal is considered a meat concentrate and contains nearly 300% more protein than fresh rabbit.

The second ingredient is turkey meal, another protein-rich meat concentrate.

The third ingredient is millet, a gluten-free grain harvested from certain seed grasses. Millet is hypoallergenic and naturally rich in B-vitamins and fiber as well as other essential minerals.

The fourth ingredient is chicken fat. Chicken fat is obtained from rendering chicken, a process similar to making soup in which the fat itself is skimmed from the surface of the liquid.

Chicken fat is high in linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid essential for life. Although it doesn’t sound very appetizing, chicken fat is actually a quality ingredient.

The fifth ingredient is pumpkin seed. Pumpkin seeds are rich in fiber, vitamins, minerals and, more importantly, linoleic acid — an essential omega-6 fat.

The sixth ingredient is yeast culture. Although yeast culture is high in B-vitamins and protein, it can also be used as a probiotic to aid in digestion.

The seventh ingredient is dried pork liver, a dehydrated product made from whole pork liver. Because it contains about 62% protein and 20% fat, this item makes a favorable addition to this dog food.

The eighth ingredient is dried egg product, a dehydrated form of shell-free eggs. Quality can vary significantly. Lower grade egg product can even come from commercial hatcheries — from eggs that have failed to hatch.

In any case, eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The ninth ingredient is alfalfa nutrient concentrate, a vitamin and mineral-rich extract made from alfalfa.

Even though it contains over 50% protein, this ingredient would be expected to have a lower biological value than meat.

And plant-based products like this can notably boost the total protein reported on the label — a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, montmorillonite clay is a naturally occurring compound rich in many trace minerals. Montmorillonite has been approved for use in USDA Organic Certified products.

Reported benefits include the binding of certain mold-based toxins and even controlling diarrhea and irritable bowel syndrome (IBS).

Next, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

And lastly, although we find no mention of added vitamins or minerals on the ingredients list, we’re reassured to find a detailed list of naturally present nutrients on the company’s website.

Nature’s Logic Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Nature’s Logic Dog Food looks like an above-average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 38%, a fat level of 18% and estimated carbohydrates of about 36%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 38% and a mean fat level of 17%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 37% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 46%.

Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the alfalfa nutrient concentrate, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a significant amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Nature’s Logic is a plant-based dry dog food using a significant amount of named meats as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 5 stars.

Enthusiastically recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Nature’s Logic Dog Food
Recall History

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Notes and Updates

09/17/2016 Last Update

  • Rich

    Add a little fish oil on top. Great to add moisture and good for them too!

  • New York Flatlander

    Add a probiotic /digestive enzyme to her feed.

  • Angela Sekelsky

    I have two dogs that don’t like the Rabbit formula. One will barely touch it! The other barely eats it, so I guess I’m going to have to try another food with him.

  • anon101

    Semantics…..

  • aimee

    I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Note that Zignature did not say AAFCO approved their food.

    For me I wouldn’t say that meeting the profile certifies the diet.Theoretically yes.. it should be complete and balanced but meeting a profile doesn’t take into account bioavailability of the nutrients present. Diets which meet a profile may still come up short on nutrients.

  • anon101

    Sounds good enough for me 🙂
    http://zignature.com/?page_id=12&lang=en

    What is AAFCO and is Zignature®
    AAFCO approved?
    AAFCO stands for Association of American Feed Control Officials. Zignature® recipes are formulated to meet all the nutritional levels established by the AAFCO Dog Food Nutrient Profiles. This certifies that Zignature® is a nutritionally complete product that can be fed to your pet as its sole ration without adding any other substance except water.

    For more information on AAFCO regulations, visit aafco.org.

  • aimee

    Their is no agency that approves pet food.

  • Pitlove

    Aimee is absolutely correct about this brand and you have just stumbled on one of the many many problems with this company and it’s products.

    You are correct in questioning why a product would be so far off the AAFCO maximum amount of calcium appropriate for a healthy adult dog. Unfortunetly, most people do not make such astute observations and get fooled by the nice ingredient list.

  • anon101

    Whatever. I go by what the veterinarian that I trust and knows my pet recommends. That seems to work best .End of story.

  • aimee

    Actually AAFCO is very clear on this point. The following is an excerpt from their website. The bold text is theirs not mine. It is a common misconception that AAFCO approves diets. They do not. I found companies that claim to meet AAFCO standards on the labeling when they have not. It is up to the state feed control official to catch them in their lies.

    “AAFCO does not regulate, test, approve or certify pet foods in any way.

    AAFCO establishes the nutritional standards for complete and balanced pet foods, and it is the pet food company’s responsibility to formulate their products according to the appropriate AAFCO standard.

    It is the state feed control official’s responsibility
    in regulating pet food to ensure that the laws and rules established
    for the protection of companion animals and their custodians are
    complied with so that only unadulterated, correctly and uniformly
    labeled pet food products are distributed in the marketplace and a
    structure for orderly commerce.”

    http://petfood.aafco.org/

  • anon101

    http://www.aafco.org/ excerpt below
    I guess it is all in the interpretation 🙂

    Welcome to AAFCO
    The Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) is a voluntary membership association of local, state and federal agencies charged by law to regulate the sale and distribution of animal feeds and animal drug remedies.

    Purpose and Function of AAFCO
    Although AAFCO has no regulatory authority, the Association provides a forum for the membership and industry representation to achieve three main goals:
    Safeguarding the health of animals and humans
    Ensure consumer protection
    Providing a level playing field of orderly commerce for the animal feed industry.
    These goals are achieved by developing and implementing uniform and equitable laws, regulations, standards, definitions and enforcement policies for regulating the manufacture, labeling, distribution and sale of animal feeds – resulting in safe, effective and useful feeds by promoting uniformity amongst member agencies.

  • Krista

    Thanks, I’ve fed this before but never noticed the high calcium and phosphorus levels. I will not be feeding it again. Who approves pet food then?

  • aimee

    Hi Krista,

    Foods can meet AAFCO either by meeting the profile or by doing a food trial.

    This company ran a food trial on one product, the chicken, and then used the family rule to apply it to all their products.

    But they were using the family rule when it didn’t apply because the nutrient levels are so different between the diets.

    I questioned them about this and they said they were doing a new trial using the beef. formula.

    These foods are very inappropriate for growing large breeds puppies and I think they are supposed to be labeled that way but they are not.

    Calcium levels up to 7.1 gram/1000 kcals fed up to 40 weeks didn’t prove to be problematic in healthy adult Labradors https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28643620

    Level in the beef is reported as 5.94% ~17grams/1000kcals. Nearly 3 times as much.

    Personally this is a company I’d stay very far away from.

    P.S. AAFCO doesn’t approve foods.

  • anon101

    Ps: If something about this food bothers you, you don’t have to buy it.
    There are plenty of other foods to choose from.

  • anon101

    In my opinion, you are over thinking it.
    I hope you can find a veterinarian that you trust and feel comfortable with the answers that he provides to your questions.

  • Krista

    The AAFCO maximum is 1.8 for calcium and 1.6 for phosphorus. The beef variety is 5% calcium. How is this correct? I understand it’s AAFCO approved but they are well above the maximum..

  • anon101

    No. As long as the food is AAFCO approved.
    If your dog has a health condition or is a senior, I would consult your veterinarian (a veterinary healthcare professional that has examined the dog)
    Otherwise, you are just getting opinions and speculation, not necessarily based on your dog’s specific needs.

  • Krista

    The calcium and phosphorus levels are really high in this food… wouldn’t that cause some problems?

  • Danyell Clark

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bae70392e6e707860d4eba469f3643b8e62c4297a9b5dac954ba5293f9fb03a1.jpg
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    Marley started chewing on her feet and scratching to the point of blood and baldness after switching over to Nature’s Logic. It was the worst month I’ve ever experienced and I felt horrible for putting her through that. I switched her back to Taste of the Wild and she stopped chewing almost immediately. Two months later she has completely healed the 4 lesions she chewed on herself and the hair has grown back nice and healthy too. I have had Marley for 11 years: started her Nutro then swiched to TOTW for her better years in life at age 9. Was told by her VET to try Logic and if history has taught me anything, it’s stick to what works. My shar-pei lab has had amazing skin and coat her whole life unlike 100% of one of her breeds and I didn’t need a dog food to add her to that ratio. I can only speak for my baby & Nature’s Logic isn’t for us. She could have given herself a serious infection from the allergic reaction to its ingredients and no one deserves that.
    The before and after pics bark volumes !
    Bald spot on her back foot and her face was still all swollen and red. 🙁

  • Steve J

    I think by “Nature’s Logic” they are referring to the natural vitamins and minerals in their food, contrasting with the synthetic vitamins and minerals found in 99.9% of other kibbles. Champion (Orijen/Acana) uses almost all natural, but includes Zinc and some Copper, which are synthesized.
    All extruded kibble is cooked at high temps, and is thusly not all that great. The meals in these brands are apparently sourced from the same proteins we would eat, unlike many other pet foods. The fact that they are “pre-cooked” does diminish their nutrients somewhat, but it also eliminates most of the water, so when they list it as the first (i.e. heaviest) ingredient in the pre-cooked ingredient list, they should still be the first ingredient in its post-cooked-in-the-bag-when-purchased state.
    Meals can be used to hide all sorts of low quality ingredients, but not all meals are low quality.
    And by the way, millet is a seed, kind of like Quinoa, which is on the fence between grain and non-grain. At least it is non-GMO, gluten-free, and lower in sugar than peas, etc.
    (Full disclosure: I feed no kibble, only raw, to my dogs and cats, but I sell Nature’s Logic and Champion dry foods in my store, and customers are happy overall.)

  • aimee

    Hi Blythe,

    I have to think the likely source of the hair is from the beef meal. Hair can also be in lamb meal and pork meals.

    Since you are feeding Acana Duck and Pear without any mammalian sources i wouldn’t expect to find hair in that variety. But if you look at a different variety hair can be found as this recent post illustrates. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/forums/topic/acana-food-a-lot-of-hair-found/

  • Blythe

    We have 4 dogs at home and 3 of them have been on this Nature’s Logic Beef Recipe dry dog food for about a year now. Our other dog is on Acana Duck & Pear, which has proven to be a far superior product. The only reason we switched is because the Nature’s Logic was a small kibble (pugs) and excluded the ingredients one pug is allergic to (grains, white potato, whitefish/salmon/catfish). Since it was highly rated by DogFoodAdvisor.com, we went ahead and purchased the food.

    Our dogs have been doing well on the food, but while I was feeding them this morning, I found a black hair in the bowl. When I picked it up, I discovered it was actually baked into the kibble. I pulled the kibble out and took a very close look at the food bowl and found many kibbles with hairs baked in! Last time I checked the label, disgusting wiry black hair, which closely resembled that found on a rodent, was not an ingredient and while one kibble is an acceptable find, 5 in a bowl containing roughly 20 is not. The last time I found hair baked into a food was a Purina line some 20 years ago when I was a kid and didn’t choose my pet’s food.

    Luckily we have the Acana that we feed our other dog as well as the homemade wet food we supplement with, so my dogs aren’t exactly going hungry today; however, I do think that this food should be checked again and that hairofunknownorigin should be added to the list of ingredients.

    Now why was no hair discovered any sooner and is this a new development in the factory? I don’t know because my husband typically feeds the dogs since they like to eat very early, but, as luck would have it, he is out of town this morning, so I got to get up at 5:30 and feed them. It is possible he missed it all this time and it is possible this is a new issue. Either way, I will not be buying this food ever again and since we purchase our food from Chewy.com, they are actually issuing us a refund for our most recent purchase of this food (still unopened) and asked that we donate it to a shelter.

    The pugs are going back on Acana, which seems to be the absolute only company that truly cares about the quality of their food. Never found a hair baked into a kibble with their food EVER.

  • GrannieRe

    Sorry not hostile OK was suppose to be of. At the moment her diarrhea is being controlled. She has actually started being fearful of strangers. Even the vet staff. I just want to add something else to her diet to fatten her up some. I think I’m going to get her some of the beef dry nature’s logic and give just a tiny bit at a very slow pace. Thank you for Your help!!!

  • Pitlove

    No need for hostility when folks are trying to help.

    Consider having an Endoscope and biopsies of her GI tract done if you haven’t done so.

  • GrannieRe

    The person that has helped her the most is the lady at the healthy dog pantry. She cleared up her daily diarrhea now she just has it occasionally. I just feel like she needs to eat something else something more to help put her weight back on her. I was thinking about adding nature’s logic dry since she can eat the canned. I did try to add some dehydrated veggies. She did OK with a small amount but when I try to increase it to her weight her diarrhea started back up. I just feel terrible about all of this! I don’t know how to help her.

  • GrannieRe

    She has been tested for PEI and everything else you can think OK. I’ve spent thousands and nobody had any answers.

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    You may want to delete this. It is not advised to post your email address here.

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Go to a Veterinary Internal Specialist, asap, that is what I would do,
    Call the nearest Emergency Veterinary Clinic, they should be able to refer you and advise you.
    Don’t look for veterinary medical advice online or in pet supply stores.

  • Pitlove

    Hi GrannieRe-

    Has your GSD ever been tested for PEI (Pancreatic Exocrine Insuffuciency)? It is common amoung the breed and results in the symptoms you are describing.

    The cause has to do with malabsorption and maldigestion of normal nutrients. It would also explain her weight loss.

  • GrannieRe

    Hi new to all of this so bare with me! I have a 3 yrs old German Shepherd that has has so much trouble with diarrhea (so bad it has been watery). I have had her tested for everything. I have tried every combination if foods. I’ve cooked for her, you name it I’ve done it. Right now she’s on nature’s logic canned sardine & turkey with a probiotic. She seems to be able to tolerate it pretty good. The healthy dig food store where I buy her food said to never use dry food because it’s cooked to much so it looses all of the good nutrient’s. My girl is losing weight and am very worried about her. I was thinking about starting her on some of the dry and just gradually adding a small amount over a longer period of time. I do know for sure carbs make her worse. So anyone have any suggesting? I’m at a loss and very worried about my baby…

  • GrannieRe
  • Natalie Jo Marx

    This food is not what you call “high meat.” First of all it’s plant-based and uses named meat meals as the first ingredient, (chicken meal, salmon meal, duck meal, beef meal, etc.) Named meat meals are rendered, well any meat meal, even unamed, are rendered at high temperatures, which means it’s unfit for human consumption. Sure, it doesn’t have synthetic vitamin packs, which is a good thing. I just can’t feed my dog something that has named meat meals as the first ingredient. Nature’s Logic though does have things such as pork liver as the 7th ingredient above, but not much pork liver is included in the food, since it’s not in the top 5 ingredients. I’m not trying to tell you what to feed your dog, I’m just saying I don’t recommend it. You can feed it if you want, but I would try something more high-quality like Orijen. I mix my dog’s Orijen with 1 scoop of Stella & Chewy’s Meal Mixers. Both are great brands and use human-grade meat, with no cheap fillers like tomato pomace, and canola. They also don’t use tapioca or potatoes. Just meat, eggs, fresh fruit, vegetables, and botanicals! It only adds zinc, which is important for brain health and function, zinc is also important for maintaining a healthy skin and coat, and proper skeletal growth. It’s a powerful anti-oxidant as well! 😉

  • Natalie Jo Marx

    Actually, I said named meat meals. Like duck meal, salmon meal, chicken meal, etc. Any meat meals from named to just “meat meal” are rendered at high temperatures, which is unfit for human consumption. (I don’t think you read that earlier in my post.) And by grains I mean all the formulas together. Yes, it only contains one grain per recipe, and with the name “Nature’s Logic,” I think of what your dog was supposed to eat in the wild. Never have I ever read about wolves eating grains, lol, and also on the back side of an Orijen bag on the right-hand side near the bottom it clearly states “That’s why ORIJEN features FRESH, RAW, or DEHYDRATED ingredients, from minimally processed poultry, fish, or eggs that are deemed fit for human consumption prior to inclusion in our foods.”

  • InkedMarie

    Type “meat meal” in the search and read the article here on it. You’re mistaken about meat vs meal.

    The only grain in Natures Logic is millet, a pseudo grain.

    There are only two dog foods, I believe, that can call themselves human grade and Champion Pet Foods are not them. I know you didnt say they call themselves that but it sounds like you may believe it.

  • Natalie Jo Marx

    This food is absolutely terrible! Maybe not for others, but for me it’s bad. It used animal MEALS as the first ingredient in most of their dry recipes. Even though it contains 300% more protein, it’s a meal. It’s also plant-based which is a no for me. I only feed 5 star, meat-based kibble. It also contains grains, which with the name “Natures Logic,” I don’t remember anything about wolves eating grains. I think this brand deserves 3.5 stars at the most. Why not go feed something like Orijen. It’s meat-based, contains an ABUNDANCE of meat while Nature’s Logic contains a significant amount of named meats or meat meals. Orijen is made in the USA and all of it’s ingredients are NEVER outsourced. It’s also Non-GMO which for me is a huge plus. Fresh lamb, chicken, turkey, etc arrives fresh daily. It also contains no starch, potatoes, and has low carbohydrates. I tried Nature’s Logic about 3 months ago and my dogs stool was very runny, she had terrible stomachaches, she would eat her own runny stools and leave her bowl of kibble in the kitchen, not touched. Went to see my vet, she told me to try Orijen or ACANA. She’s also not a big fan of Nature’s Logic. Also, like you know, Nature’s Logic uses named meat meals sometimes as the first ingredient. Like the recipe you view above. Rabbit meal, turkey meal. What you didn’t know was that named meat meals are rendered at high temperatures, which means it’s unfit for human consumption. Orijen and ACANA use human-grade meat, locally sourced from farms, ranches, and are also cage-free. Orijen and ACANA 100% Nature’s Logic 0%

  • Sydney

    This sounds normal. Switching from such a low quality food to Nature’s Logic will be a big change for your baby. Loose stool is very common especially because Nature’s Logic is such a high meat food. Adding some pumpkin or their All Food Fortifier may help. It’s a powder made by the same company that will add pre and probiotics to help with your dogs digestive system during the transition 🙂

  • Sydney

    High protein is great for all types of dogs unless they are already pre disposed or diagnosed with kidney issues. Although dogs have evolved domestically, digestively they are that of a wolf still. High protein, low carbs are the kinds of diets that dogs will thrive on. Keep in mind protein doesn’t make dogs fat, carbs do! Best food around.

  • Sydney

    You should absolutely feed this brand! Hands down best pet food company around and the only pet food in the world without those fake vitamin packs!!

  • Ginger Mosel Breon

    Hi are you still feeding this to your chihuahua? My chihuahua is a year and half and I am considering both the canned and dry. Ty

  • Hana Spitz

    I do a lot of raw feeding and when dogs get to much bone/calcium their poop is very dry and crumbles. You could step on it and it would just fall apart. So this food may have more calcium than some dogs can tolerate.

  • Krista

    I wanted to try this food for my dog but it’s high in protein and my dog isn’t very active. Would this be ok to feed? I have tried Orijen and she did well on it. Just wondering because I’ve heard 30% is a good number for non working dogs and anything over that might be excessive. What are anyones thoughts on this?

  • Shea

    My 9 year old little terrier has been on Natures Logic for the last 2 months now. She was on Duck and Salmon first but didn’t like it much. Now, on chicken which she likes. For the last few weeks, she has had rashes off and on and scabs appearing near her trunk and hind legs. I took her to the groomers 2 days ago and she had an oil treatment for her skin with her grooming. Her skin was much better. Well last night, her belly and chest broke out in a rash. I thought it might have been razor burn from the grooming and rubbed coconut oil on it. It was gone this morning. After she ate breakfast, I noticed the rash came back. I think it might be an ingredient in the food. I’m just very perplexed on what could be causing it. Especially with this food being top notch. Her food before was Canidae Pure, which I liked but had way too many calories. I was trying to cut out potatoes because she was getting a yeast problem right before I changed her to Natures Logic. I need an alternative to get her skin better.

  • HumaneEccentric

    I have a 3 y.o. male German Shepherd (who came to us as a stray with heartworms) and a 2 y.o. female Brazilian Mastiff. I just started them on this brand and they love it. I already knew that their ingredients were top notch but I’m glad to see it here as “enthusiastically recommended” with 5 stars. They transitioned well, with no problems and are doing quite well on it. They gobble it up the same as they did with Sojos. So far, we’ve tried the beef and the chicken. Next on the delivery is the Duck and Salmon. I use Chewy.com’s autoship program and so far, it’s really working out. I’m disappointed to learn from previous comments here, that the prices were a bit less a while ago, but each bag lasts about two weeks (which I didn’t think it would – they don’t need as much of this food compared to others) so as long as I keep switching between the flavors (mainly beef and chicken) I should be able to budget for it. I pay about $60 for the chix and beef each, and the duck and salmon is about $70. I want to try the rabbit but that’s $80. Still, that’s about $160 per month for the dogs which isn’t really bad. I’ve got my outdoor cat on this as well (the chicken flavor for cats) and he loves it, too. The two things I LOVE about this food are the fact that it is whole food with nothing artificial/no fillers and that their poop looks much better & turns to dust (clay) very quickly. It’s much easier to pick up the back yard now!

  • Shea

    I tried Sadie on the sample of rabbit I got from the company and the next morning she had a loose bowel movement as well with her stomach gurgling. I fed her some chicken with broth and she got better quickly. I think it’s a protein she’s never had before and wasn’t used to. I would give it more time. I just ordered the duck and salmon flavor. Ive been gradually mixing it eith her old food. Well this morning i just gave her the new food and she threw it up. I’m going to mix it with her old food again and see if it helps.

  • Shea

    I just switched my dog over to Natures Logic. I got samples from their company. Sadie really enjoyed the chicken and duck and salmon flavors. Well, I ordered these and started her on duck and salmon. She has thrown up a couple of times on this food and I have transitioned her slowly by mixing her old food with it. She really doesn’t want to eat it now without something added. Has anyone else had trouble with this flavor? I love this food for her and may have to just change flavors.

  • Israel Brod

    I just switched my 4 year old Beagle from royal canine potato rabbit wet food, to natures logic Rabbit wet… he loves the food but so far his stools have been rather loose, more so then while eating royal canine. I did the switch gradually as recommended. Would it possibly take time for his belly to get acclimate to all the fruits/veggies in natures logic? Should i consider incorporating natures logic dry food into his meals?

  • Shea

    I am very interested in changing Sadie to this brand. She currently is on Organix small breed. Would anyone know why this food is not included in the Whole Dog Food Journals list of dry foods? I would normally only use a food that is included on this list.

  • tinab

    I have an older diabetic dog who had the same issue…dry, crumbly pooh. We rescued him at age 8 and goodness knows what he was eating before he came to us. Anyhow, we put him on Nutrisca and his poop stayed the same. We transitioned him to raw and his poop stayed the same. I figured that’s just the way his system was set up. I added Olewo carrots (1 Tablespoon a day) and 24 hours later, his poop was normal. The carrots help with digestion and heal the digestive tract among other things. They’re inexpensive and well worth the 30 seconds it takes to add to his breakfast.

  • Shea

    I have been interested in this brand and noticed it’s cheaper on chewy.com. You might want to check it out.

  • Roger Trumbull

    My dogs have been doing very well on this food. But the prices have sky-rocketed in the past two or three months. The venison meal went from $68/bag to $85/bag and even $95/bag from one vendor. I contacted the company and got an email back from the owner who said it could be because of minimum advertised pricing issues. However, I watched several vendors, and as their existing stock ran out and they received new stock, the prices all jumped, so I can’t help but believe the manufacturer just hiked their prices. For a food that was in the $55 – $70 range for the different flavors, a jump to the $70 – $85 range (an average 25% increase) is just too much. I am now looking for a replacement brand.

  • Margaret

    My Great Pyrenees was on this for years until they changed the formula last year. I tried every flavor and the gas and soft poops were killing us. She loved the food very much but I needed to switch. Very sad about it. The store owner where I get my food from said that a lot of her customers needed to go off Natures Logic after the formula switch because the dogs can’t tolerate it.

  • The Honest Kitchen Zeal, Canine Caviar (some), Great Life and Great Life Dr. E’s, Natural Balance fish and sweet potato, Pioneer Naturals

  • The Honest Kitchen Zeal, Canine Caviar (some), Great Life and Great Life Dr. E’s, Natural Balance fish and sweet potato, Pioneer Naturals

  • Sanz

    I am looking for the same particular food.

  • Sanz

    Thanks.

  • theBCnut

    First, understand that pea fiber is not the starch ingredient in the food. It is just fiber. So it doesn’t compare to a starch ingredient. Some would say millet is better than potatoes, because potato is a nightshade plant. Some would say it’s worse, because it’s a grain. I would say it depends on how your dog does on it. I have two that do great on this food and one that can’t eat it at all.

  • Sanz

    Is millet better than potatoes or pea fiber?

  • Gina

    The just jacked up the price on this one! I don’t think I want to buy it any more. But I can’t find another dog food that is grain-free, no pea and no potato. Anyone know of one?? thanks

  • Paige

    Yes, experiencing the same thing which brought me here. I have 5 dogs on this, I know for a fact that one in particular has exceptionally dry poop that crumbles into what looks like sand. Another is suffering from constipation and diarrhea for the last 4 hours, when he eventually can go he has what looks to be sand. Another one of my dogs had a painfully difficult time passing poop two days ago…… Concerned…

  • Marti Frida Vito

    Anyone have problems with very dry poop? Literally falls a part as soon as it comes out and it looks like it has sand in it.

  • Crazy4dogs

    He’s a cutie! 🙂

  • InkedMarie

    I just posted a pic right up above, took it yesterday

  • InkedMarie

    Here’s our O’Malley

  • InkedMarie

    Thank you! O’Malley has been so easy & he’s so sweet!

  • Crazy4dogs

    I agree, it’s never long enough with any dog I’ve had no matter if they were a pup or adult when we first got them! So sweet that you adopted a senior and gave her a couple of great years! Glad the new pup is doing well! 🙂

  • InkedMarie

    Thanks. She was a senior when we got her, we only had her for two years (FB memories told me that we got her 1/19/13) which is never enough.

    The puppy is wonderful, so easy. Our last young puppy was Boone our pbgv who will be ten this week & he was a horror as a pup.

    Hope you’ll stick around!

  • Dave’s Hounds

    sorry to hear that. Congratulations on your new pup!

  • InkedMarie

    LOL! We lost our sheltie in January 2015….in November we got a longhaired whippet puppy.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I have been so happy with my food I haven’t been on in a while!

  • InkedMarie

    :::rubbing my eyes::: Is that really you?? LOL, how are you! Been way too long!

  • Dave’s Hounds

    He is doing well!

  • DogFoodie

    Hi stranger!! Glad to see you pop in! Hope all is well with you and your pups. How is your newest addition doing?

  • Dave’s Hounds

    This is still one of my favorite foods

  • Adrienne P.

    Update: We are almost finished with our 15 lbs bag of Beef and my dog is doing really well on this formula. Her stools are very firm and in smaller amounts. She has tried the Chicken and Rabbit but she didn’t like them as much. She wouldn’t even touch the bag of Rabbit we bought so we exchanged it for the Beef. Will definitely keep this in her food rotation!

  • Adrienne P.

    Yes, they did change it. I prefer the new packaging because I feel like the bag is more air leak proof and sturdy. The old packaging, in my opinion, was just a thicker paper material and wasn’t air tight even if unopened.

  • Pitlove

    Yes they did change packaging. Some stores (like the one I work for) still has some of the old packaging because they will continue to send it to us until it runs out. If you can find a retailer with the old packaging, I would suggest comparing the 2 bags to make sure they did not also sneak in a formula change.

  • theBCnut

    Either someone deleted their own profile or it was someone with an agenda that started causing problems, depending on which deleted post you mean.

    Unfortunately, companies like to change packaging without notice. It often signals that they had an ingredient change, or sometimes they just want to update their look.

    Dr Mike would appreciate it if you use the contact us widget at the bottom of the page and let him know that they have had an ingredient change.

  • Sherry

    Why are so many comments deleted? I just got my 4lb bag of lamb meal in the mail and it is in a totally different bag. The ingredients looked to be a small bit different too. Does anyone know if they changed their packaging? Thanks!

  • Rachel Pempsell

    Our French Bulldog has severe allergies, both food and environmental. She can have any kind of meat, but sadly she’s allergic to rice (white and brown), potato, sweet potato, green beans, peas, peanuts…and the list continues. Before we knew this, we were giving her and our Corgi Orijen, and she was occasionally having diarrhea. We felt horrible when we realized the food we were giving her-Orijen being a great brand-was actually doing her more harm than good. Nature’s Logic was the only food we found that she could have. We get the chicken meal recipe and she loves it. Her diarrhea has stopped, and her itching isn’t as severe as it was (although she still tries to chew her feet). Her allergies are an ongoing battle, but luckily Nature’s Logic is a 5 star food that’s done wonders for our Stella.

  • Rachel Pempsell

    Our French Bulldog has severe allergies, both food and
    environmental. She can have any kind of meat, but sadly she’s allergic to rice
    (white and brown), potato, sweet potato, green beans, peas, peanuts…and the
    list continues. Before we knew this, we were giving her and our Corgi Orijen, and
    she was occasionally having diarrhea. We felt horrible when we realized the
    food we were giving her- Orijen being a great brand- was actually doing her more harm than good. Nature’s
    Logic was the only food we found (actually the pet store employee found for us)
    that she could have. We get the chicken meal recipe, and she loves it. Her
    diarrhea has stopped, and her itching isn’t as severe as it used to be (although she
    still tries to chew her feet). It’s an ongoing battle, but luckily Nature’s
    Logic is a 5 star food that’s done wonders for our Stella.

  • DogFoodie

    Sorry, but that doesn’t sound like much of a breeder.

  • Judy

    My Son got Athena his pit at 2weeks of age cause her mother died when the pups were just 2 weeks old. The breeders needed someone to care for them so they gave them away to good loving homes. I was the one who found a Pit breeder to talk too about her skin on a pit forum. BB Wilderness works for Athena and today she looks great.

  • Pitlove

    I got my pitbull from a terrible backyard breeder that told me the same thing. My dog started his life on Blue Wilderness and it did not go well. I don’t like Blue as a company either and I don’t use any of their products anymore. He’s on Fromm now and doing much better.

  • Judy

    My son owns a pitt that had this. They switched to blue buffalo wilderness and was told by pb breeders that bc she is blue it will run its course and go away. And now she looks great. Good luck!

  • Pitlove

    Thanks for your concern Amanda. We are seeing a new vet and plan to also see a dermatologist per her recommendation. So far he’s doing well on the food he’s on, along with the salmon oil he gets daily with both meals. A lot of the hair loss in those pictures has improved a lot. I still need to get him to the dermatologist, but I’m currently in a financial bind as I need to pay for a hernia surgery for my cat.

    To me his symptoms mimic seborrhea, but it has not been diaganosed yet. I do have a special shampoo for him that is working fairly well, but I plan to get a shampoo that is meant to treat seborrhea to see if it helps. He had a couple sores on him that I was able to heal in one day using coconut oil topically and they haven’t come back. So far things are looking better than they were.

  • Amanda Hurst

    Pitlove…have things been getting better with your fur baby? I had some of the exact same issues awhile back, and changing his food wasn’t all that was needed.. it was caused by some bad dog food and allergies….he ended up needing a some medications from the vet and special shampoo and a fast change in dog food, we keep him on a steady food.. I was like u and feeling like I failed and in tears, and if u do not have a vet that will help or listen please find a new one….u can email me at [email protected] and maybe I can help you some since by these pics it looks like you are going through the same thing we did

  • Judy

    Thanks!!! and yes I do believe 100% it is systemic yeast. We are now on the 4health beef no potatoes. I know I been all over the place with dog foods but I have another problem a Yorkie that peed like crazy on the Nature’s Logic. I guess its the higher protein.

  • Kellie

    My doxie had the same problem on the chicken formula of this food so I switched her to something that was rated low glycemic (something without a really starchy carb like potatoes) and same protein just to try something different. The crusty ear problem and scratching her feet went away in less than a month. Don’t let it get too out of control it isn’t a good thing. For more info you can check out systemic yeast infections in dogs! Hope any of this helps! After all, we all want the best for our fur babies! This is really great food but it just wasn’t the food for her for whatever reason. My other two do okay with it 🙂

  • Judy

    Thanks I will give them a look see!!! Right now I have them back on TOTW and poos are back to 2x a day. I will be donating the last 2 bags.

  • Kathy Niskala

    I also rotate with the different dry grainfrees,but to be honest.. my crews poop is the best when eating the different raw commercial diets, like Primal and North West Naturals..always smaller and firmer end results !!! but it is more expensive to use….

  • Judy

    Been gone most the afternoon and came back to runny eyes. And ones ears are red. So now what?

  • Pitlove

    shelters get way worse food. I think donating would be a good idea

  • Judy

    I’ll mix it. I think it would be a problem for the shelter really

  • theBCnut

    Throw one in the freezer and mix the other one in with the new food. Or donate to a local shelter. They always need food.

  • Judy

    Bought TOTW yesterday with less poos already today. Now I have 2 unused bags. ugh

  • Judy

    oh OK! Well mine are use to rotation changes, but not brand changes.

  • Pitlove

    My dog is used to frequent changes in food. It was the 4lb bags.

  • It’s been two or three days for my boys to be on both the Duck and Rabbit formulas and so far their output schedules have not changed. But they are all acclimated to frequent food changes. They had just finished a bag of Trufood.

  • Judy

    The bags you bough were they the 4 # size or larger? Just wondering if it was the small maybe it needed more time to get moved in and get comfortable… LOL if it was 2 large bags yea.. that was plenty enough time. Mine are the small 4# bags.

  • Pitlove

    Well my point was that yes, it is something with the food. The poop is firm and small, but my dog was pooping twice as much as normal. When I switched to Fromm it stopped.

  • Judy

    Oh gosh I was hoping this was THE FOOD. Plan to finish the 4 small bags then probably go back to taste of the wild.

  • Pitlove

    No it didn’t. I didn’t continue feeding the food for more than 2 bags, but he was pooping 3-4 times a day the whole time on the food.

  • Judy

    SO it got better?

  • Pitlove

    I had the exact same experience through 2 bags of Nature’s Logic. No idea what causes it. His poop never looked better but he was pooping 3-4 times a day.

  • Judy

    All my dogs are pooping way more often on Natures Logic (Venison) but small small. I’m hoping with time it’s gonna get back to 1-2 times a day.

    Did anyone find this to be true, that with time its becomes less often that its a body adjustment?

  • Judy

    No the smell is still lingering, but I haven’t bathe them since the last post. Just maybe its a chemistry change and will settle down. All my dogs coats are looking great! They like it too but all my dogs eat pretty much whatever I give them.

    I feed all mine a few tablespoons of Pure Balance 95 canned in the mornings. I free feed meaning I keep food in the bowl. I got a couple that wont eat till afternoon if I don’t give them canned they get the empty stomach heaves then vomit. I got 2 more 4.4# bags and will feed them that till its gone. Then I will decide on wither or not to buy another flavor.

    PS I have 3 Yorkies, 1 Shih-tzu, and 1 Maltese. To me Yorkies have a stronger smell than any other breed I have ever owned. Keep us updated.

  • Adrienne P.

    Really? I was hoping to ask for samples for Vension and Sardines. Did the smell go away?

  • Adrienne P.

    UPDATE #2: My pup seemed to like the chicken but after a week she lost interest, which is discouraging because it’s hard to find kibble she’d stick to. She did great on the Beef formula. Ate her food every single time! To try to get her to eat the Chicken I opened our 15 lbs bag of the Rabbit which she loved the samples of a month ago but this time not so much. I mixed the Chicken and Rabbit together and she’d sniff it, ate a few kibble then walked away. Then I tried to feed them separately to see which one she liked better. I scooped some of the rabbit kibble directly from the bag to the floor, she start rubbing her mane in it, ate a few pieces then walked away. Another day, I put the 2 formulas on separate plates and seemed to preferred the chicken but only ate a few kibble then walk off. Is it that she doesn’t like the flavor or something’s wrong with the kibble? The 15 lbs of Rabbit we got was the old packaging; not sure if that matters. Anyway, I requested from the pet store that I bought the bags from if I could exchange the Rabbit formula for the Beef.

  • Judy

    My pack of 5 inside little dogs are all on Natures Logic Venison for a one month trial. Did any of you notice an old grease odor on the dogs not from the bag? all of them have the same odor.

  • Judy

    Should get the results in a week or 2. Can’t wait!!

  • Judy

    That’s encouraging…I’m hoping the stains on my Shihtzu and Maltese will lessen. I was feeding TOTW It’s only been 2 weeks though and it seems my Maltese stains are lighter. One 4.4# bag (Venison) fed 5 dogs for 2 weeks. If it works I’ll pay it!! and be happy to do so.

  • Adrienne P.

    UPDATE: It has been 18 days since we started our 1 1/2 year old American Eskimo-Pomeranian mix on the Beef formula and today she finished the 4.4 lb bag. Before trying Nature’s Logic we contacted the company through their website and asked if they gave coupons or samples. They responded the next day. In the mail, we received a Frequent Buyer Program envelope, coupons, and the samples. My dog immediately loved the kibble. She started rubbing her mane all over it; an amusing site if I say so myself. We decided on the Beef flavor as our first bag and she finished her food every time. I also noticed immediately she had consistently firmer stools. Today, we will start on the Chicken formula then Rabbit right after. So far, I’m a big fan of Nature’s Logic. I also love how quick they respond to my emails. Nature’s Logic isn’t sold in many stores but I am able to special order it from our local pet food store for a decent price. Physically, I noticed my dog doesn’t have anymore tear stains and her coat is shiny as ever.

  • Judy

    Hello I am slowly switching to Nature’s Logic Venison Dry. I have a Shihtzu that gets nasty dark scaly ears, red stained feet and mouth and also stains on the insides of her elbows. I am not sure what problem my girl has but I THINK its yeast. I had her tested but the vet said no yeast in her ears. She said the stains were from saliva. There is yeast in the Venison dry. Which brings me to my question.

    Is that an OK kinda yeast or is all yeast the same? Vet said she probably has a food allergy. I am going to be allergy testing her soon. Thanks in advance! Judy

  • Pitlove

    ya, I have no idea what causes that. I believe my vet mentioned something about that and food allergies, but I can’t remember.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Just watch carefully and if it keeps up, you may have to switch to the last food you think worked.

  • Pitlove

    Yeah we are going to keep him on Fromm. He’s been licking his butt a lot today though. More than usual

  • Crazy4dogs

    Yeah, the photo is marketing. Just see what happens with Fromm, get an accurate diagnosis & go from there. 🙂

  • Pitlove

    Ya Shawna you are right. I’m just jealous of people who don’t have problem dogs I guess lol

    Bentley’s fur does go back when you rub it the wrong way, but some parts of the middle of his back feel more rough than others. He’s always had shine to his coat. That hasn’t changed.

  • Shawna

    You could be feeding raw but if there’s an ingredient in that raw food that Bentley is reacting to you are going to see the same problems.

    As you know I feed raw – if I feed lamb to my Papillon mix she develops reverse sneezing. If I feed goat or any grains to my Shih Tzu mix her coat get HORRIBLE as well as develops other issues. If I feed any poultry to my Pom Gizmo she gets goopy eyes and her coat becomes more coarse. If I fed my mix Audrey barley she would get a rash across her shoulder blades that would be severely red and hot to the touch as well as other issues.

    PS – any food with adequate omega fatty acids will give a nice sheen like that (IF there isn’t a food intolerance issue). My criteria for how well a dog is doing is the coarseness and pliability of the coat. Can you rub the fur the wrong direction. I’ve had Boston Terriers to short haired Chihuahua to my current puppy sitting dogs (a Dachshund and a Min Pin mix – both short coated). When I rub their fur against the growth it was prickly and extra stiff. After only four days of having high quality toppers (still feeding their normal food) both have coats that are significantly more pliable then when they got to my house last Sunday. The foods they are eating are not horrible either. The puppy is eating Nutro Natural Choice and the 13 year old Dachshund is eating Newman’s Own Organic canned food. Both four star foods. I’ve been adding a small amount of commercial raw complete and balanced and Answer’s Goat Milk.

  • Pitlove

    The first review on this food with the picture of that beautiful GSD makes me mad about how much money I’ve spent on higher quality foods that Bentley doesn’t seem to get better from.

    Someone shoot me if Aimee has been right about Purina ProPlan this whole time…

    http://www.chewy.com/dog/purina-pro-plan-focus-puppy-large/dp/52425

  • Pitlove

    ya i think we are going to bring him to another vet who will actually listen to me and do a skin scrape

  • Pitlove

    I think for him that might be the best idea right now.

  • Shawna

    Once you identify what the problem ingredient is you can continue with rotation, if you wish. But until then, I agree with Crazy4dogs that sticking with one food can help rule some things out — a sort of elimination diet.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Seborrhea has a flaky/greasy consistency. IMHO, I would pick a different vet and have a skin scrape done to rule anything out or get a firm diagnosis. I thought a foster had ringworm, it looked just like ringworm. It was demodex. Skin scrapes are lifesavers.

  • Pitlove

    I think thats what my problem was. I never fed one food long enough to actually be 100% sure he was doing well on it. My boyfriend and I decided we are going to feed the Fromm Prairie Gold (beef and pork based) for probably 3 months or so and see if anything changes. My bf doesn’t want to keep changing foods every few weeks. He wants him to be on one food long enough to see the effects and I feel that for my dog thats probably the best thing to do. Maybe a completely healthy dog can do a full on rotational diet, but I don’t think he can.

  • Crazy4dogs

    You’ll get it figured out, it just takes some time and a good vet to help diagnose. You could go to a dermatologist, if you can’t control it, but finding the right vet is the key.

    Changing his food often doesn’t always cause problems, but if you don’t have a good idea of what he’s reacting to or what the condition is, I probably would stay with one food long enough to figure it out, and slowly go back into a rotation.

    Just out of curiousity, is his skin oily/greasy or smell? Looking @ photos of seborrhea, it could be that, but again, I could be wrong.

  • Pitlove

    I think we just need to go to a dermatologist or something. I don’t know. I’m honestly thinking about only feeding him one food now because I feel like changing his food so often is what left me in the place I am because he is not a normal dog and is not 100% healthy.

    I’ve got this bag of Fromm and I’m only one meal in, so I’ll finish this bag and if I don’t see an improvement I might just go back to Orijen or EVO. Maybe only feed those 2 for now.

  • Crazy4dogs

    This link has some info that I’ve used before and found somewhat helpful. It almost looks like seborrhea, but you might be able to tell more easily. And I have guessed wrong in the past, which is why if it doesn’t clear in a few days, it’s off to the vet for me.

    I am with the others, if my vet didn’t at least look and comment, I would definitely find another vet!

    Here’s the link:

    http://pets.webmd.com/dogs/ss/slideshow-skin-problems-in-dogs