ZiwiPeak Daily Dog (Dehydrated)

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Rating: ★★★★★

ZiwiPeak Daily Dog air-dried dog food receives the Advisor’s top rating of 5 stars.

The ZiwiPeak Daily Dog product line includes four air-dried raw dog foods, each claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Beef Cuisine
  • ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Lamb Cuisine
  • ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Venison Cuisine
  • ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Venison and Fish Cuisine

ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Venison Cuisine was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Venison Cuisine

Dehydrated Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 40% | Fat = 31% | Carbs = 21%

Ingredients: Venison - meat (includes up to 3% finely ground bone), venison - liver, lung, tripe, heart and kidney, new zealand green-lipped mussel, lecithin, chicory inulin, dried kelp, parsley, naturally preserved with mixed tocopherols (vitamin E), vitamins: vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin, d-calcium pantothenate, folic acid, vitamin B12 supplement, thiamine hydrochloride, chelated minerals: iron amino acid complex, copper amino acid complex, manganese amino acid complex, zinc amino acid complex, selenium yeast, potassium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 1.9%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis34%26%NA
Dry Matter Basis40%31%21%
Calorie Weighted Basis30%55%16%

The first ingredient in this dog food includes venison. Venison is considered “the clean flesh derived from slaughtered” venison and associated with skeletal muscle or the muscle tissues of the tongue, diaphragm, heart or esophagus.1

Venison is naturally rich in all ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life.

We note that this includes ground venison bone, an excellent source of natural calcium.

The next five items include a series of nutrient-rich organ meats

  • Venison liver
  • Venison lung
  • Venison tripe
  • Venison heart
  • Venison kidney

Venison liver is an organ meat sourced from a named animal and thus considered a beneficial component.

Venison lung, heart and kidney are organ meats that are rich in protein and essential minerals and are low in fat.

Tripe usually consists of the first three chambers of a cud-chewing animal’s stomach. As unappetizing as it may seem to us humans, tripe is favored by dogs and sometimes even includes the stomach’s contents, too.

The seventh ingredient is green-lipped mussel. Mussels are clam-like animals notably rich in glucosamine and omega-3 fatty acids, nutrients proven to support long-term joint health.

The eighth ingredient is lecithin, a waxy substance obtained from soybeans. Although it’s commonly used to make fats more blendable, lecithin is believed to improve a dog’s skin and coat.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, chicory root is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

Next, this food contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

And lastly, this recipe also includes selenium yeast. Unlike the more common inorganic form of selenium (sodium selenite), this natural yeast supplement is considered a safer anti-cancer alternative.

ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Air-Dried Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, ZiwiPeak Daily Dog looks like an above-average dry product.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 37%, a fat level of 28% and estimated carbohydrates of about 27%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 37% and a mean fat level of 29%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 26% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 79%.

Above-average protein. Above-average fat. And below-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a dry product containing a significant amount of meat.

Bottom line?

ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Cuisine is a meat-based air-dried raw product using a significant amount of named meats and organs as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 5 stars.

Enthusiastically recommended.

Those looking for a wet product from the same company may wish to check out our review of ZiwiPeak canned dog food.

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Notes and Updates

07/28/2010 Original review
04/17/2014 Last Update

  1. Adapted by the Dog Food Advisor and based upon the official definition for beef published by the Association of American Feed Control Officials, 2008 Edition
  • Nancy Calloway

    What worries me about the PERSUIT is that it is a “CARB BASED” kibble and after studying all these dog foods this got past me! HOWEVER, he lost from 70 pounds to 65 pounds in 8 weeks so I am going to calm myself down with the thought that at least he MIGHT GAIN A LITTLE WEIGHT on those carbs….. And after this bag I will switch. The Victors food that is 42 % protein and 17% carbs “looks good” but geeze – something about that concerns me too. I am trying to find out the dry matter basis of that kibble. It’s new, I think.
    Arrrgh! Dear God just send us ONE GOOD SAFE KIBBLE for emergencies!!! :)

  • Nancy Calloway

    Hello BC – again. I re read the posts that you and others have offered and last night as I put my bone broth in containers to freeze I felt SO overwhelmed I wanted to scream. Dr. Becker has warned us about carbs and yet EVERY kibble I have considered is full of them. Even Dr. Tims Persuit which my GSD is eating now has 33% protein, 22% fat, 37 % carbs. chicken meal is first item, rice flour 2nd, chicken fat 3rd, oat flour 4th.
    I just read last night that Perdue vet school has done a study that suggests that if FAT is listed in the first 4 ingredients the risk of bloat in large breeds is increased! So I just threw up my hands. WHERE is there a kibble that is even SAFE?
    I am now looking at prepared mixes (THK apparently has some good ones) and I have called two pet stores here who carry PRIMAL which is unbelievably expensive – up to $9 to $11 a day for a 70 pound dog. I have found a great (I hope) organic farmer within 15 miles who I am going to go visit to discuss getting meat from him….
    And I think I will use ZIWIPEAK in some way although dehydrated worries me due to the lack of moisture. Would you please tell me a couple of good brands that you would FROM EXPERIENCE start with. The options are so many and I am boggled now. Have read and studied too darn much. I just need someone who is “further down the road” with Raw and Dehydrated to give me some specifics. Thank you if you choose to do this.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Listen, I REALLY appreciate your time to comment and help me. Thank you.

  • theBCnut

    If you are interested in pre mixes to add plain meat to there are a few good ones out there. I like Dr Harvey’s Veg to Bowl fine ground, See Spot Live Longer Dinner Mix, The Honest Kitchen Preference, and I even had my dogs do great on DinOvite. Oasis looks promising/interesting!!

  • Nancy Calloway

    Thank you so much. When I studied VE more I realized it would only work as a treat. Reading these posts at DFA has inspired me to do more studying on dog foods and I am getting closer to raw or at least to dehydrated. Ziwi seems to be one of the best, most trustworthy if I don’t go totally raw. Just watched Dr Becker’s videos on Raw – very instructive! I have also run across Animal forensic scientist (among other things) Dr. Gary Puscillo – He has quite a biographical sketch– Susan Thaxton mentions him on her “LIST” and he is now part of CompleteNaturalNutrition which appears to be a new company. I am sure you know of him, but that Oasis that CNN produces – you know anyone who has used that? Interesting concept to use alongside Raw. Any comments?
    I’m trying hard to learn .

  • theBCnut

    Several of us use VE as training treats or as a topper, not as a full meal, though if I go camping with a dog I bring VE along for food. You have to remember that VE is freeze dried, so almost no moisture at all, so 1.8 lbs is the equivalent of almost 10 lbs of food and it doesn’t have to be balanced with calcium, organ meat etc. You are right that it wouldn’t last long at all for a 70 lb dog.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I THINK I saw where you mentioned using Vital Essentials. I have studied them but then I just checked at Chewy.com and for a 1.8 POUND bag of beef mini patties the price is $42! My gosh is that right? What is going on here? WHY is that so expensive? I could go to Whole Foods and buy a lot of good
    “clean” meat for $42. What am I missing? HOW does one afford to buy that? My dog is 70 pounds and I doubt that bag would last long. Geeez.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Apparently this is excellent food, clean and ziwi is very reputable and transparent. I could feel that when Kimberly spoke with me. Goes a long way. Thank you again.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Thank you. Yes I have been there and I have spoken with Kimberly who told me that her two choc labs weigh about 70 pounds. She feeds them 2 1/2 scoops every morning on top of 1/2 can of food. Then the 1 TBS of Flax Seed Oil which we have commented on already. AND she told me that one 11 pound bag as 16 “servings” in it. So you see – I hung up the phone scratching my head, and trying to think through this and the information available. She also added that at night her dogs get two great meaty bones w fat on them and that IS their supper meal. Nothing else for supper. She rarely gives them treats. They lie in the office a good bit of the day while she works and they take a long morning walk and a good walk in the afternoon/night. What you said helps. It’s a little different. I’m just feeling a need to get a good understanding here because we have been through one horrible 8 week disaster with food transitioning and diarrhea, vet, meds, HILLS Rx food and weight loss. Made me crazy. And I can’t repeat. She all but guaranteed the dog would do well. She’s sold on the food. Said LOTS of sick dogs get well on Ziwi. Thank you so very much for your specifics; for your generosity of sharing.

  • Betsy Greer

    Nancy,

    Have you tried visiting the ZiwiPeak site and using the feeding calculator? It would be helpful to know your dog’s energy requirement, so you could use the calculator here to get a general idea: http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-feeding-tips/dog-food-calculator/

  • Nancy Calloway

    Thank you. As I remember you have large dogs but I cannot find that in the postings now — 3 blood hounds (?). My GSD is 70 pounds. Can you give me some actual amounts you would suggest for a 70 pound GSD? Something in general would help. Thank you so much.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I think it is one of the best foods out there – I feed the canned in the evening and rotate through the air dried in the am with some kibbles.

  • Nancy Calloway

    This is just adorable! What a sweet face – that lab!!! He loves you so much!

  • Nancy Calloway

    Hey — you were really high on ziwipeak 2 years ago. (I have been studying the posts because I am interested for my GSD.) Please share your experience, observations after your two years.
    Thank you.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I just read your blog on ziwipeak 2 years ago… you said you were going to go totally ziwi and rotate varieties. Tell me, how did that work out? Any hints, observations? Thank you.

  • Nancy Calloway

    OH I AM SO APPRECIATIVE TO SEE THIS. I am on the verge of getting ziwipeak for my GSD who is 70 pounds and considering it for my golden retriever who is 10 yrs old to see if it will put some spunk into her life. Will you tell me if your DOBIES are still eating the ziwipeak (it’s been 2 yrs since you wrote) and what you have learned that I might benefit from ? I have not started the transition yet. STILL reading and asking for advice. Thank you!

  • Betsy Greer

    I’ve used ZiwiPeak canned and air dried both. It’s been a while and my Cavalier was quite young, but she has a pretty tough stomach and it gave her loose stool when she ate only ZiwiPeak. I found it best in moderation for my dogs as well Sandy. It was certainly more affordable that way.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    If I were using Ziwipeak dry, I would use it as a mixer/topper with other foods and as treats. For instance, right now, I put about 12 pieces of Vital Essentials (freeze dried niblets) on top of my dogs’ meals and I give it during the day as treats. I’ve even mixed in canned, raw and freeze dried in the same meal but my dogs have been eating a variety for at least a couple years. When my Vital Essentials runs out I am going to start using Ziwipeak.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Marianne: First HOW is your GSD? I am hoping the ziwi helped him get well. How has he done on the ziwi? I am thinking of putting our GSD on it. Thank you.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Ok Harry — Would YOU please tell a little about HOW you are using Ziwi and how big your dogs are and HOW you use it in conjunction with Nature’s Logic and WHICH Nature’s Logic and HOW MUCH?
    I am wanting to use the Ziwi as am close to convinced it probably is one of the better foods however I would love a little conseling in that regards. I will be feeding it to my GSD who is 21 mos old and got diarrhea when we reached a 50/50 with Origen and Acana (transitioning from TOW)… so I am wanting to get this right with him. He can’t stand but so many bouts of Diarrhea and then HILLS Rx WD Formula to treat it. Thank you for ANY CLUES!!

  • Nancy Calloway

    My GSD is 70 pounds.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I sure are hoping you and Guest got my request about ZIWI use.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Do you feed ZiwiPeak and Nature’s Logic dry and canned TOGETHER? Or do you mean you rotate them? Or do you mean you feed one at breakfast and the other at supper? Could you explain please? I am trying to decide about feeding ZIWI and I’m interested in the different ways to use it.
    KIMBERLY at Ziwi told me she feeds the Ziwi in the mornings to her labs and at night gives great bones. I am still having issues with myself on giving my GSD bones. My vet tells me that if I got to see all the cracked TEETH that come in to her office from bones, antlers etc I would never give a bone. She does not recommend. Says if the cracked tooth is bad – we’re talking root canals and so on.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I’m so new here, WHAT exactly do you mean “rotate through ziwipeak for second meal” ? Would you explain that please? And it has been a year. Did that work well?

  • Betsy Greer

    Why on earth would she add flax seed oil to ZiwiPeak? If she felt the need to add additional Omega 3’s, she’d better off adding a krill or fish oil supplement. I add Udo’s Choice DHA vegeterian blend to my dog’s food that is intolerant of fish. Dogs cannot efficiently convert flax seed oil.

  • theBCnut

    For me, good customer service can make or break a food. I feel that if a company doesn’t have good customer service, they are afraid you will ask something that they don’t want to have to answer, so they just make themselves unavailable for everything. That being said, I never take a reps word for anything, since their job is to sell you their food. But this really does sound like a food that is certainly worth trying.
    I don’t see any ingredients that I would avoid, except where she adds Flax oil. Dogs don’t convert the ALA into DHA and EPA very efficiently, so they really aren’t getting the omega’s they need. It’s just another source of fat. If I want to add another source of fat, I’d add a good fish oil and coconut oil.

  • Nancy Calloway

    worry not. You have company here!

  • Nancy Calloway

    I’m following this conversation bec I am VERY interested in Ziwi and talked to the owner yesterday. SHE told me the 11 lb bag has 16 servings for a 70 pound dog. She has two labs and they each get 2 1/2 scoops a day on top of 1/2 can of their food. Then a full TBS of Organic Flax Seed Oil from Whole Foods she said. THEN for supper they get a large meaty/fat bone to chew and that’s that. She feeds them nothing else, treats ONLY sparingly. She swore to me that my GSD who has had digestive trouble would do beautifully on this food. Said many SICK DOGS GET WELL on it – and emphacised how people call her in desperation over their sick dogs. Clearly she is committed to the food and convinced me to check our funds to see how we can consider feeding it to our dog. She spoke in a way that exuded competence and knowledge. And was generous with her patience with me.

  • Kimi_Forever

    No Chewy just sells the venison versions cheaper then other retailer’s. I also have been ordering my ziwipeak from chewy.com and plan on trying the venison flavor because it’s so much better priced there.

  • Kimi_Forever

    I’ve been Feeding her the ziwipeak Beef and Lamb formula’s with very good results so far. I am using it as a training treat and top her Fromm Kibble to add a little meat to her Fromm, she weighs about 38lbs at 16 weeks and is growing nice:
    http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/Kimi_forever/20140506_214019_zps074700cb.jpg

    http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/Kimi_forever/20140612_1258131_zpsb3a85320.jpg

    http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/Kimi_forever/20140524_181407_zps12226d95.jpg

    http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx118/Kimi_forever/20140524_1204161_zps38cb3219.jpg

  • Nancy Calloway

    That roof is pretty important — at least for me it is! :) Each to his own.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Well said.

  • Nancy Calloway

    So how is your adorable pup doing on the FROMM? And which ones are you giving him?

  • Nancy Calloway

    That’s about the cutest pup I EVER SAW! What a little ball of fur!
    Send an updated pic when you can!

  • Nancy Calloway

    I noticed that the ZiwiPeak Venison at Chewy (where I have been buying our food) is about $140 a bag. The owner told me yesterday it is $180 a bag. Another meat in the line is $131 a bag. So it makes me wonder if what Chewy has is old – or was priced before prices went up. ???

  • Nancy Calloway

    I just talked to the owner yesterday. They will ship it to you. THAT is the cheapest. I asked. I am investigating this food. Nobody is saying negative things YET.

  • Nancy Calloway

    NP. I’m just appreciating so much your all’s help. I’m learning a lot from you.

  • LabsRawesome

    Sorry I didn’t respond. I took my little boy out to dinner. But I agree with every thing that theBCnut said.

  • Nancy Calloway

    Thank you BC. While I did know that the “sr dog” food is not a good thing, I did not know what you were saying. Appreciate! I’ll feed her the 38% Origen and she’ll be happy .

  • theBCnut

    But my other two dogs would do great on it!

  • theBCnut

    Older dogs ability to use the protein in their diet may diminish, so they may need as much as 50% more high quality protein to get the same amount of protein out of their food. The only reason to cut protein in an older dog is if they are in the advanced stages of kidney failure, have liver failure, or have some specific digestive problem regarding protein.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I thought since she lies around all day (esp since it is SO HOT and SO HUMID here which means she lies around inside a lot) that she does not need so much protein as when fall winter and spring come and she’s outside and we’re walking more. That’s all. She’s been eating a mix of two foods 31% protein and 25 % —- Foods the German Shepherd could not eat!

  • LabsRawesome

    Why do you want to feed lower protein? There’s no reason to. Older dogs need higher levels of protein, not lower.

  • LabsRawesome

    Yeah, I hear you on the tomato thing. It’s harder to find foods when your dog has intolerences. :(

  • Nancy Calloway

    OKay — here’s another one. (Q) I have a 15 pound UNopened bag of Origen Adult Food – 38% protein. I got this for our GSD who ended up having all those loose stools on Origen and Acana — Chewy will not take it back bec THEY have no record of my getting it there – which I did. I get all food at Chewy, and I have tossed the invoices. So — I also have a 10 yr old healthy Golden Retriever who can eat ANYTHING… I will let her eat this expensive food (I HATE wasting things that were expensive!) but I think I need a “nice” respectable low protein food to combine (mix) it with in order to cut the protein a little. Something whose proteine percentage is in the twenties. Any thoughts? Thank you!!

  • theBCnut

    I’m not worried about it either, whatever changes there would be when taking into account the ash content would still be very small. I do have 2 concerns with this food. 1) There is no where anywhere near me that sells it. and 2)micah can’t have it because of the tomato, which doesn’t matter if I can’t find it.

  • LabsRawesome

    Yeah. I don’t know what the ash % is in Victor, you’d have to contact them to find out the exact %. Oh well, I’m not worried about it. It’s the best food that I can afford. And my 3 do great on it :)

  • theBCnut

    Nah, ash is higher than that, 6-8% or more for high protein foods. Maybe at this point in time, due to our labeling laws, they don’t have to take into account ash content. If Dr Mike was doing a dashboard on this food, he would assume 8% ash. Ash comes from the minerals in the food, so usually, the higher the meat content the higher the ash.

  • LabsRawesome

    Yeah if you want a low carb kibble the protein and fat have to be higher. It’s not out of whack tho. Fat % should be around half of what the protein % is. So 42% protein and 22% fat is good. We’re talking about healthy dogs here. My 3 do awesome on Victor.

  • LabsRawesome

    If you look on Victor’s site it says less than 17% carbs. So the carb must be 16. something per cent. That would probably account for the ash %.

  • theBCnut

    It’s great! All those numbers aren’t dry matter, but that will only put the carbs a little higher. There are a very few foods that you can find numbers like that on, but it’s very few.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Yes. The only issue would be that the fat level would be quite high if a dog is prone to pancreatitis, but otherwise those are pretty awesome %s.

  • Nancy Calloway

    PS – I went back to Victors — That food is 42% protein and 22% fat and only 17 % carb AND it is GMO free. That’s pretty good, isn’t it?

  • Nancy Calloway

    Thank you, BC. But now look at LabsRawesome — That Victor’s GF Ultra Pro 42 has only 17% carbs but is high in protein and I guess fat too — so how does THAT happen? I’m such a dog food toddler, but tryin!

  • theBCnut

    As far as the carb level in higher star kibble goes, if the highest protein foods are about 40% protein and their fat level should be about half that, 20%, that leaves 40% for carbs. You can find foods that have a higher level of fat, of course, and take that carb number down some, but to make kibble, you can’t take the carbs down too low, like below about 30%. That’s another reason why so many of us also feed canned or raw, all kibbles are too high in carbs.

  • Nancy Calloway

    OMG THANK YOU !! I am too busy now trying to get off and out of town. This is GREAT! I am thrilled.

  • LabsRawesome

    Nancy, yes GF Ultra Pro42 is GMO free. Here’s a link. http://www.midamericapetfood.com/victordogfood/pdf/Brochure-GF-Ultra%20Pro.pdf Check the GF emblem. It’s the circle with a big GF in the middle,and it says Grain free, gluten free, and GMO free right on it.

  • Nancy Calloway

    I just went there. That one is not GMO Free. The one Cyndi and Betsy mentioned (High Pro Plus) is the GMO Free but has 30% carbs… the Ultra has lower carbs as you said, but is not GMO Free. I think we need to be careful about GMO too bec it is known that GMOs cause digestive issues, among other issues, in humans. That’s a fact — See the documentary SEEDS OF DESTRUCTION (Amazon). Even Gastro doctors now are stepping up to say that taking patients OFF GMOs is making a difference. Pediatricians are doing the same re childrens’ issues. It’s a big deal. Maybe Victor will move toward making ALL their foods GMO Free — bec there are toxins in the GMO Foods. Whew! What to do?

  • Nancy Calloway

    OH THANK YOU!! I had already ordered the other from AMAZON but I just cancelled. YES I am very concerned about carbs now that I have read more. (There is too much to know). My GSD is now on DR TIMS PERSUIT wh is ranked 5 star but it is 37% CARBS, 30% Protein and 20% fat. He lost 7 pounds on all that diarrhea mess in the spring and needs some weight on — but over all I think the carbs have to go. I watched DR BECKER’S video on dog food and now I’m a carb-o-phobe! I guess FAT is okay for dogs. Now trying to learn about dehydrated and raw. Would LOVE to find a good dehydrated food just for the sheer convenience. He is a GREAT dog and I want to feed him in order to help him live a long healthy life. THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!

  • LabsRawesome

    Nancy, you have to look at the Grain Free Victor. Not the Select, if you want the formula with the lowest carbs, it’s called GF Ultra Pro42. It only has 17% carbs. Here’s the link. But you’re better off looking at Victor’s site, as Dr. Mike used a different formula in his review. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/victor-grain-free/ And here’s Victor’s site. victordogfood.com

  • Cyndi

    In the review for Victor, it lists all the formulas that are available, toward the top, and it says Victor Hi-Pro Plus is rated 5 stars…

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/victor-dog-food/

  • Nancy Calloway

    Betsy — WHERE on DFA is Victor’s Select Hi-Pro Plus showing as a 5 star? I could not find it.
    Have you used it? And like it?
    Thank you.
    I’m beginning to get concerned about the high carbs in so many of the higher starred kibbles. Some upward in the thirties and forties per centage wise. That is not a good thing for the dogs, esp over time.Thanks for your input.

  • Nancy Calloway

    WHERE is the Victor Hi-Pro Plus a FIVE STAR on this site? I wanted to see it but all I could find was plane ole Victor’s Select?
    ????
    Thanks.

  • Danni

    Thank you Lori!

  • Danni

    Yeah I don’t like the place it’s at. :-( It’s too uppity for me. LOL I’ll get it at Chewy! Thanks so much for the advice!

  • Dog Mom Lori
  • Dog Mom Lori

    This is a mold! Do Not feed it to your pets. Take it back to the place of purchase and get another bag or get a refund. Ziwi Peak will refund the store. During shipping and handling the bags can sometimes get pinholes in them which causes moisture to get inside and it causes the mold. This has happened to me a few times I called the company and that is what I was instructed to do.

  • Elizabeth

    Has anyone had a problem with a white powdery substance on this food?

  • Betsy Greer

    It’s available at some boutique stores near me. Have you visited the ZiwiPeak website and used their retailer locator: http://ziwipeak.com/where-to-buy-ziwipeak

  • dchassett

    I’ve only ever found it on line.

  • Danni

    Where can I find this food? Is it online only or would Petco, Pet Supplies Plus or some other store have it? I don’t usually shop Petsmart but I’m thinking they wouldn’t have it.

  • Ashley

    My Dogs Love Ziwipeak. Check Out Our Blog Review. And Like Our Facebook Page Also =) https://www.facebook.com/DinoNMiaKnoBest

  • zhiba

    Agreed. Also check out Only Natural Pet’s MaxMeat line, which is made by Real Meat Company. Sometimes I can find it cheaper. :)

  • Zippo Brolis

    There is another alternative that is great in its pricing compared to Ziwi Peak. They have a review through this site as well that you can
    look up.

    Their website is http://www.realmeatpet.com

    They have an amazing line of treats and food for both dogs and cats that is affordable. I understand making sacrifices for our pets but companies that have high quality foods should also keep in mind that not all of us are rich.

    I did a lot of research in finding just the right
    product for my pets and highly recommend Real Meat for its meat content and giving me a better choice to other brands that aren’t nutrient rich-
    at an affordable cost. Good luck to you!

  • Zippo Brolis

    There is another alternative that is great in its pricing compared to Ziwi Peak. They have a review through this site as well that you can look up.

    Their website is http://www.realmeatpet.com

    They have an amazing line of treats and food for both dogs and cats that is affordable. I understand making sacrifices for our pets but companies that have high quality foods should also keep in mind that not all of us are rich.

    I did a lot of research in finding just the right product for my pets and highly recommend Real Meat for its meat content and giving me a better choice to other brands that aren’t nutrient rich- at an affordable cost. Good luck to you!

  • Yojill33

    Does Ziwi peak air dried food have to use HPP like some of the frozen and dehydrated foods do?

  • tdog

    Yeah seems like a great idea. I top by dogs’ kibble with raw, but am thinking about getting a little bit of this for an upcoming backpacking trip (where raw obviously isn’t an option).

  • Kimi_Forever

    I have looked at the Victor review yes, i didnt realize at first that it was a 5 star food but when i double checked it, i realized it was and i felt much better. I was really worried that the puppy might not be able to handle the foods i was planning on feeding but now have more confidence. And thats really good to hear that people are having great success with it. The breeder is a member of the Akita Club of America and seems to know her stuff pretty well!

  • Crazy4cats

    Oh my, already so strong and sturdy! Very cute. I’m jealous. Lol!

  • Betsy Greer

    You’ve read the Victor review here, haven’t you? The Hi-Pro Plus is a five star food. Several regular posters use it with great success and have made it a regular part of their rotation. My dogs are finishing up a bag of a Victor right now.

  • Kimi_Forever

    Thanks betsy and BCnut! its very exciting. I also think the white spot on her forehead is very cute.
    I will take your advice on the canned food as well. and the slow transition.
    –I also was glad to hear she was feeding a decent food. For breeders who are supposed to know so much about dogs it irks so many dont do research enough to be feeding something decent. The breeder even said to me,
    “it gets really high rating on the dog food critic sites”
    I laughed.

  • Betsy Greer

    Congrats! She’s so cute!

    I love that the breeder is feeding her Victor Hi-Pro Plus. That’s a great product. : )

  • theBCnut

    What I would suggest is to open the canned and freeze it into ice cube sized amounts. Thaw one as you need it and add it to the food that she comes on to start with. Many puppies don’t want to eat right away in a new home, so this will help entice her and add just a little bit of some thing new to start with. Then after she has been with you for a few days, start to transition her kibble.

    She is adorable!! I love the little lightning bolt on her forehead!

  • Kimi_Forever

    Thank you guys!

    I will be driving out to get her next saturday. she was 8 weeks old this weekend so will be about 9 weeks old by the time i see her.

    here she is:

    http://epicakitas.com/5.html

    She is currently eating Victor Select Hi Pro Plus. The breeder said she will give me some food transition her with onto the fromm’s. Do you all think it will be too much on her to add the canned fromm to her diet while i’m transitioning her to the fromm GF? should i wait until she is good on the fromm or will it be fine to just start with the canned mixed in?

    BTW this place has really been a lot of help to me! I TRULY appreciate it!

  • theBCnut

    Congratulations!!!

  • Betsy Greer

    Great news Kimi!

    When do you pick up your new pup?

  • Kimi_Forever

    Thanks guys for the suggestions. I just wanted to make sure i was on the right track…Speaking of which, i just confirmed a new puppy for myself and just ordered her new Fromm dog food (got her both the GF kibble and the GF gold canned) from chewy.com and just ordered a 2.2lb bag of ziwipeak to used as training rewards. I really hope my new dog likes the ziwipeak because i got a bag of ziwipeak for my last akita and she totally snubbed it! i was like really? you just snubbed ziwipeak? I even tried to put a piece into her mouth because she wouldnt take it, and she just simply spit it out! Lol. so hopefully it goes over better this time and is viewed as a high value training treat!

  • Shar24

    I agree with your last paragraph, however the original poster deviated from sharing her experience with budgeting for, purchasing and feeding this product, she was actually telling other people what they could or should do. She didn’t state that she quit smoking, she said “For starters you can stop smoking if you smoke (cigarettes cost more than Ziwi Peak ever will), stop eating out” and then went on to make further derogatory and rather ridiculous comments about another person’s choices.

  • Dog Mom Lori

    Utilities? I said cable TV, not gas, water or electric which are necessary utilities unlike cable television.

  • Betsy Greer

    Your portioning makes sense to me, but I would also look at the calorie content like BC said. Just feed your pup 80 percent of its regular portion and 20 percent of what is regular portion would be if feed ZiwiPeak exclusively.

    I’ve never tried to rehydrate ZiwiPeak. ZiwiPeak has sort of a soft jerky treat texture that you can feed as is.

  • theBCnut

    Since kibbles vary in calories from about 300 calories per cup to 500+ calories per cup, I would still take a look at the calorie count on the foods you are talking about and see if they really compare that way. Since Ziwipeak is dehydrated and the measure is for before you add water back, so that seems to make sense, but I can tell you that the raw meats I add all have different calorie counts too. Some are higher fat than others.

  • Kimi_Forever

    Anyway, back to something useful, and off of the trolls. I recently found out that a can of dog food or one and half to two cups of fresh meat is equivalent to about cup of kibble, making it easy to swap them out. I However i was wondering if anyone knew by chance how much ziwipeak is equivalent to a cup of kibble?
    From what i can gather it says one portion of ziwipeak equals three portions of raw meat. So then lets say we were going to top some Orijen with some fresh meat i take away one cup of kibble add two cups of raw meat, but if add ziwipeak could i just divide that two cups into three parts and use that as an equivalent? So then instead of adding two cups of meat i add .66666667 cups of ziwipeak which is supposedly equal to two cups of meat. So that would be one cup of kibble = 1 can of food = 2cups of meat = .66666667 cups of ziwipeak?

    By the way i got the information that 1 part ziwipeak = 3 parts real meat from ziwipeaks website.
    Does that seem to make sense to anyone knowledgeable?
    Say i’m feeding 5 cups a day and i want to use a 20% topper for each meal. I take away one cup leaving four then add in, either two cups fresh meat, one can of food, or .66666667 cups of ziwipeak to make up for the loss of one cup of kibble.
    Does that proportioning seem to make sense?

  • LabsRawesome

    Yeah, you’re probably right. It’s hard to believe that someone would actually shut their utilities off to pay for dog food. But then again, there are some pretty crazy people running around, so you never know. LOL.

  • Crazy4cats

    I just think they are trolls trying to yank our chains. Both the red dog and dog mom Lori showed up at same time. Both with ridiculous posts. Actually they are prob both the same person.

  • LabsRawesome

    edit

  • Dog Mom Lori

    Thanks for your comment. I’m glad to see that not everyone is so hostile and ready to argue about a simple comment about dog food. Some people are not very rational and don’t want anyone to be heard but themselves. It’s wonderful that with modern technology we are all able to share our opinions and even be able to have this conversation. On the other hand it is a shame that there are so many rude people out there that make the internet a hostile environment and try to make a simple comment an argument. It’s sad that even in adulthood we have to deal with bullies.

  • sue66b

    Have you tried an elimination diet & cooked, start with a protein (rabbit fish lamb chicken) & add say rice for 3 weeks-1 month nothing else, no treats, nothing then if everything is going good after the 3weeks add something else like pumkin after 1 week if everything is still good add another new food, even start to add foods that u think she’s allergic too…My boy has seasonal & environment allergies, IBD & chronic Pancreatitis, he’s on an elimation diet at the moment so I can work out if he’s intolerent to certain foods, I thought that he couldnt eat sweet potato as he broke out in his hives & itchy ears, so I stopped the sweet potato, Im starting to add the sweet potato again & this time he doesnt have the itchy ears or hives, so I think that the days that I was adding the sweet potatos to his elimination diet he must of gotten his itchy ears & hives from the enviornment on his walks.. a coincidence… I found that Eukanuba Intestinal vet prescription diet has been the best kibble so far, his itch improved & stopped over winter no more diarrhea, the ‘Intestinal’ is a limited ingredient kibble..I started to think my boy was allergic to chicken but then the vet started explaining about Canine Atopy & how grasses & pollens in the environment can cause so many problems where the immune system starts to attack it self..only around 5% of dogs have allergies to food, they can be intolarent to certain foods,making a vets job very hard to diagnose them..I do the elimation diet foods for breakfast & I give his kibble at lunch & night, as I know he’s fine with this kibble…

  • Kimi_Forever

    I’m sorry. But i still feel that’s a little off the charts. I do not think his behavior is very typical. I do not think most people are looking for that kind of advice either. I think his ‘advice’ is one of the more unreasonable things i’ve read on this forum. i particularly resented his comment directed towards me regarding my kibble being like HoHo’s and ziwipeak being like adding fresh vegtables to hoho’s.

    I do not feel any frustration nor stress and particularly not failure by not being able to afford to feed this food to a large breed dog. I think most rational people agree that feeding a product like this to multiple dogs or to a large breed dog is not very practical for most people who are not rich. This product for most reasonable people is only accessible if you own small or toy breed dog. I think it’s completely reasonable and in no way a failure to feed a premium kibble to a large breed dog and feel blessed that i can even use this as a training treat or a topper. I resent your use of the word failure.

    I do not think his ‘advice’ was practical nor do i find it helpful. And i think most would agree. If anything it starts to border on the absurd.

  • Red Dog

    HI, I agree with you and I thank you for sharing how you are able to accomplish what you do for your dogs. Not sure why everyone jumped down your throat. You were simply saying (for those who want to give their dogs this food) that it is possible, and then you went on to explain how to do it.

    For those who became upset and those who immediately jumped down your throat – it was over the top. We are all trying to do the best we can and everything in our lives is a trade off due time and money constraints — just to name two things that sometimes force us to make decisions we don’t want to. We are all dog lovers – maybe we could remember that before we post. No one wants to be attacked. And I do understand the frustration and feeling of stress and possibly even failure when we can’t do better by ourselves, our kids, our dogs, etc. because we don’t make enough.

    One thing though, Orijen is not the best food, so I don’t spend my hard earned dollars on it because I could get food at least as good — and better for a little less. That doesn’t mean everyone should chastise you as a hypocrite for complaining about your struggle to pay for dog food when you could get a different brand that is as good or possibly a little better for less money. There are 5 star brands that cost $45 – $65 dollars for about 25 – 30 lbs.

    Perhaps we could share our experiences (like the poster I’ve commented on did) and what worked or didn’t work for us versus taking up so much space on this blog attacking, accusing and complaining. And yes, I have taken up a lot of space with this comment. But it is in hopes of mediating and encouraging more positive and supportive posts. Thank you for listening. I wish everyone and their dogs health, joy and peace.

  • Kimi_Forever

    I think you are probably right. Because that guy is almost so off the wall i can hardly believe it. best to ignore and not feed it anymore…

  • Crazy4cats

    I honestly think it was just someone on here to yank someone’s chain and we walked right into the “trap”. I would just ignore.

  • Shar24

    the funny thing is, I don’t have cable, I don’t smoke, don’t drink, I hardly ever buy a cup of coffee out, nevermind go out to eat and generally afford myself few luxuries. I stretch to buy the food that I do for my animals, do the very best I can for them, and love them with all of my heart. There is no way I would be able to afford to feed this food unless I stopped paying to keep a roof over my head regardless of what I do, and I hate reading that if I got my priorities straight then it would be possible. Even if it wasn’t directed towards me. Its been a tough couple of years for me financially.

  • Crazy4cats

    That’s funny. Have a nice day :)

  • Dog Mom Lori

    Well everyone’s priorities are different I guess, and yes you are right loving and caring about our pets is what it’s all about which is why I do what I do for mine and why I posted what I posted. My comment wasn’t meant to be malicious and it certainly wasn’t meant to upset anyone. I can’t believe how some of you jump and go into defensive mode for someone making an innocent suggestion as to how they were able to afford this food. I guess that is why we still have war.

  • Kimi_Forever

    Thanks, and yes that is what its all about. I just was like wow really, i try hard to do the best i can for my dog, and i also love them like children. And i was considering this as a partial topper because i like it’s limited ingredient list as opposed to some stuff contained in a lot of canned foods. I was considering the buying the 5.5lb bag and using it as a training reward and sometimes as a topper to some high quality kibbles. But i am not willing to give up something like a car just so i can feed one of the most expensive foods on the market. When my last girl got sick, my car broke down at that time and needed 1,500 dollars worth of work on the clutch and i went without my car for 6 months so i could pay the near $5,000 in vet bills that accumulated over a few months because my girl got sick. I definitely sacrifice for my animals but somethings are just silly!

  • Crazy4cats

    Kimi-
    Please don’t feel like you have to explain yourself. Don’t let one poster’s “opinion” get you too crazy. I feel very confident that it is not the opinion of the majority. It sounds like you love and care about your dog just as much as anyone. And isn’t that really what it’s all about? BTW, I’d be the first to admit that I would not turn off my cable to be able to pay for this food. LOL!

  • Shar24

    It is possible for YOU to afford this food by making cutbacks in other areas of your life. Best to stick to your own personal experience because you have absolutely no idea what I can or cannot afford, what I do or do not make, how much I work, what I spend my money on, or any other information about me or anyone else.

  • Kimi_Forever

    I guess if you are calling all kibble crappy then thats your opinion. But i was talking about topping Orijen kibble with it, and i wouldn’t particularly call that a cheap or substandard food. Of course it is not raw but…There is no way i could afford to feed this to a LBP as a college student and my parents arent rich either and like others have said have mortgages and a life we want to enjoy as well. I plan on spending around 150$ a month on feeding one dog, i wouldn’t call that cheap, but it’s certainly not ziwipeak prices. And i plan on feeding the best kibbles i can find because thats all i can afford until and if i make the leap to prepare my own raw food. it would cost me 260ish dollars a month to feed this to a full grown akita as a sole diet, and that doesnt include buying all the other goodies i want to buy for her each month i.e. chew toys, treats. I feel lucky i can even use this as a training treat or maybe to top a kibble like Orijen. And i see you say arent judging but i feel as if i do the best i can for my pets and certainly dont feed something like a McDonald’s quality kibble…

  • http://www.tomlinsons.com Jeremy

    You may have some good luck with those allergies if you supplement with a product called E3live, it may reduce a lot of sensitivities that your pet has. I would also start supplementing with a high quality probiotic, Herbsmith has a product called micro flora that would be a great option for you :) Good luck and have a great day!

  • Dog Mom Lori

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Just remember that there is a big difference between an opinion and a judgment. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment.

  • Crazy4cats

    Wow! And how I dislike when people come on here to make judgments on how much others spend on their pets. You have no idea what financial situation anyone is in. Myself, I’d rather spend less on kibble to be able to add some healthier fresh, canned and/or dehydrated food to it. I also would like to be able to pay my mortgage, power and help pay for my sons’ college loans. This food is off the chart expensive!

  • Dog Mom Lori

    I hate when people say they can’t afford this food. It is possible to afford this food if you make cut backs in other areas of your life. We love our dogs like children and want them to have the best and Ziwi Peak is the best next to a fresh raw diet. For starters you can stop smoking if you smoke (cigarettes cost more than Ziwi Peak ever will), stop eating out, we even went down to one car, one phone, and disconnected our cable TV service to save money so we could afford this food. We have several dogs and we also rescue and foster so we spend about $600.00 a month on Ziwi Peak, no we aren’t rich but we do love our dogs and by making cut backs we have been able to afford it. As far as topping off crappy kibble with ZP well imo that would be like topping off McDonalds and HoHo’s with fresh vegetables and fruit.

  • theBCnut

    Yes, you can.

  • Kimi_Forever

    As other posters have said there is no way i could afford to feed this food on it’s own. But I was wondering if it could be used to top a kibble. I already plan on using it as a training treat and was wondering if i could top my dog’s kibble with this later down the road or if that is a bad idea? Still would be very costly, but i like the product alot. appreciate any knowledgeable advice.

  • pawsaddict

    Thank you for your reply. However, although many find it hard to believe, she does have many allergies to many foods, including multiple protein sources. She also cannot have many vegetables, grains, and preservatives in many kibble and treats. She has a form of IBD caused by her allergies (biopsy confirmed). Ziwipeak eventually did not work for her. We have to feed her a MBO only raw diet, mostly consisting of elk, bison, venison, and other quite novel proteins. As long as we stick to proteins that agree with her, we have no diarrhea, vomiting, ear infections, hot spots, itchy skin, etc. We do still have some runny eyes, but there very well could be environmental allergies at play as well. I agree with you that she is a carnivore, but that doesn’t mean that her immune system functions as it should. We are working on that and have made much progress.

  • Kim Millard

    Holy smokes… A dog allergic to chicken, turkey, duck, beef and lamb……. That only eliminates the protein source fond in 97% of all commercially made dog foods. I guess that still leaves salmon, trout, pheasant, venison, bison and rabbit but you’ll have to be a little more persistent finding them and more so making sure they aren’t mixed with one of the protein sources she’s allergic to. I find it kind of hard to believe that a natural born carnivore is allergic to that many protein sources though. The thing about Ziwi peak is that not only is it made of venison, but it’s very simple too with virtually NO carbohydrate source and no additives and fillers. You may want to see if that’s the source of your issues rather than the protein source. Some low-carb options in kibble I’d look at are Wysong epigen which is also made from venison and virtually no starch and Orijen 6-fish which is very low on the glycemic index and is composed primarily of protein sources not mentioned by you as possibly allergenic to your girl.

  • saya2

    lecithin which is soy-based.. not exactly sure on it though.

    Nevermined read few posts down and learned it could also be egg?

  • Cass

    Love this food to but its out of my price range at 130 a bag. I don’t think theres really anything else that I would compare it to.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Freeze dried is not the same, there is no heat applied.

  • Lauren Yee

    Actually, many raw food companies are using cold pasteurization (HPP) to sterilize their food. Instinct and Stewart does it with all their food and Primal does it with all poultry. These foods have the same or lower risk of carrying bacteria as kibble or canned food. The drawback is that all the good bacteria is killed but you can always add supplements yourself.

    Ziwipeak air-dries their food. If they do that at a high enough temperature, it will also cook the food and render it safe. I don’t know if they do, though. I’ve emailed the company so hopefully I’ll find out.

  • Carlyn

    That’s a really great food, but the price tag is quite high… I’d rather simply make my own raw diet for a fraction of the price, and use the excess money to donate food to shelters…

  • Ezra’s mom

    Try Nature’s Variety Instinct Limited Ingredient Lamb. Our pup is allergic to chicken and eggs and is very sensitive. We have had the best luck feeding him a combination of the Ziwi Peak and the Nature’s Variety (which is definitely less expensive!).

  • Ali

    I have 2 Shih Tzu’s and they both have severe food aversions/allergies to beef, duck, chicken, lamb, potatoes, turkey. I’ve tried the Natural Balance LID fish and sweet potatoes and they both do well on it. No more allergies. I have since switched to the Orijen 6 fish for dry and Evo Salmon and Herring canned and they both are still allergy free. I’m not saying that will work for your dog, but its an option to try.

  • Kikki

    Just wanted to share with those using Ziwi Peak that Dog.com is currently having 32% sale on it. Lamb 11lbs is only $85 and Venison 11lbs is $98.

  • Anna

    Thank you so much for checking into that! I really appreciate it!

  • HarleyMom

    I spoke with the co-founder and VP of Ziwipeak – she says they use a lecithin derived from natural sunflowers in the dehydrated food.

  • Harley Mom

    One thing you should do is have your Vet send a blood sample to SPECTRUM Labs for a spot allergy test. I just did that for my dog, Harley, and found out that EVERY food and treat I have given him since I got him a year ago contains something he is allergic to. He is allergic to beef, pork, soybean, barley, white potato and green peas. Spectrum Labs will also give you a list of commercial foods that should be tolerable as well as contact info for all the manufacturers. The test costs around $200. For me, it was worth every penny.

  • leowong

    Has Ziwipeak not been forthcoming?

  • pawsaddict

    Thank you so much! Just looked at the GPH website, and I am DEFINITLY going to order a kit right away. It would be such a relief to actually know what she is allergic to. Thank you again!!! I hope you get your answer about the lecithin very soon :)

  • Anna

    I understand your concerns. My dog has tons of allergies as well, including soy, which is why I had to stop feeding Ziwipeak until I can get a straight answer about the lecithin source they use. If you want to know for sure what your dog is allergic to, look up Glacier Peak Holistics. They have a non-invasive allergic test that can give you all the answers. It will make it much easier to pick a food that way, though it may still be tricky. Best of luck to you!

  • pawsaddict

    My lab puppy (almost 9 months old) has SEVERE allergies. I have been feeding her Ziwipeak Venison with great success, but it’s getting way too expensive (around $300 a month now….and she’s not my only dog). From what we have figured out, she is POSSIBLY allergic to chicken, turkey, duck, beef, lamb, and sweet potatoes. She has never eaten grains, so I don’t know if she would be allergic to those. I need to start supplementing her diet with a premium kibble to lower her food costs, and I was hoping someone out there could point me in the direction of a good food that may be able to keep her allergies in check. Thank you in advance!

  • Anna

    What type of lecithin is used in the air dried Ziwipeak? Their website FAQ says they use soy, but that they are trying to switch to a different source. But their Facebook page has a post from April 18th saying that soy is only in the canned. Has anyone been able to get a straight answer out of them?

  • Shawna

    I wish ALL vets were better educated on food and nutrition. Any food can become contaminated with salmonella. Many kibbles, as an example, have been recalled already this year due to salmonella contamination.

    Additionally, dogs are carriers of salmonella. It is a normal constituent of their digestive tract. They become ill if their immune system is weak or weakened or if they ingest large quantities.

    This is taken from the Merck Veterinary Manual

    “Dogs and Cats
    Many dogs and cats are asymptomatic carriers of salmonellae. Clinical disease is uncommon, but when it is seen, it is often associated with hospitalization, another infection or debilitating condition in adults, or exposure to large numbers of the bacteria in puppies and kittens, in which enteritis may be common.”

  • Pattyvaughn

    Cooked kibbles have been recalled a great number of times due to salmonella contamination. Frankly, I wouldn’t worry about salmonella since dogs are well equipped to handle it, just practice good sanitation for your own safety and ALWAYS wash after handling any dog food, just like you would if you were handling raw meat.

  • Jim ONeill

    It’s not freeze dried, it’s air dried.

  • little sweetie

    my dachshund likes ziwipeak venison, however my vet says that all freeze dried raw dog food may have salmonella in it. can this be true?l

  • Pattyvaughn

    I’ve also seen “generous” used on a review that had more meat than this one but less meat than another than was also using “significant”

  • LawofRaw

    No difference. They’re just 2 different words and descriptions with the same one meaning in this particular context.

  • Kim

    What is the difference between “significant” amount of meat and “abundance” of meat? Which is better?

  • annie

    so high protein should not be a problem. but except may cause weight gaining, should i avoid high fat content food ?

  • annie

    thanks. another concern i have about ziwi, is that is it got enough fiber for dog. i wouldn’t like feeding science diet unless no way else.

  • InkedMarie

    Unfortunately, I’ve had as many dogs eat poop as haven’t. They’re lacking nothing in their diet. Thy do it because they do and I just pick it up when they go.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Here, learn a little bit:

    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/12/06/coprophagia-repulsive-pet-habits.aspx

    “Another cause for coprophagia in dogs is behavioral.

    Some dogs, especially those in kennel situations, may eat feces because they are anxious and stressed.

    Research also suggests dogs who are punished by their owners for inappropriate elimination develop the idea that pooping itself is bad. So they try to eliminate the evidence by consuming their feces.

    Another theory that seems to hold some weight is that coprophagia is a trait noted in all canines – wolves, coyotes and domesticated dogs – and arises when food is in short supply.

    Sadly, I see this most often in puppy mill dogs. Puppies who go hungry, are weaned too young, have to fight for a place at a communal food dish, or are forced to sit for weeks in a tiny crate with nothing to do, are at high risk of developing habitual stool eating behavior that becomes impossible to extinguish.

    Coprophagic behavior can also be a learned behavior. Older dogs with the repulsive habit can teach it to younger dogs in the household.

    Like a dysfunctional game of ‘monkey see, monkey do,’ one dog can teach the rest of the pack that this is what you do while wandering around the backyard.”

    Also, I’m not sure what your rant about where Ziwipeak is manufactured has to do with my statement about coprophagia.

  • J Santorelli

    I disagree with that statement and I have been dealing with animals and their appropriate nutrition for years. Also, those if you that think ziwi peak is manufactured in new Zealand, think again. The canned foods ate DEF manufactured in the US at performance pet products and that place also cans many of the garbage brands of foods. I was led on to believe by the owners of ziwi peak that ALL their products are manufactured over there. They claim they attend EVERY run at performance but provided me no proof of that. I don’t know about you but I don’t take any pet food companies word for anything. She claims the import all the ingredients from new Zealand to manufacture here which makes no financial sense either. So buyer beware! I THINK they still produce that air dried food in NZ but contact them to find out. Their food is the most expensive so obviously I want what I am paying for!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Poop eating can be behavioral, it’s not always a nutritional issue.

  • LabsRawesome

    Um, no. My dog was eating the cat poop because he wasn’t getting enough food, and was still hungry. I was transitioning them from a kibble based diet, to a canned/fresh food diet. I had not found the correct portion size. Once I added more food, he completely stopped eating cat poo. Because he was getting enough food and no longer felt hungry. Did you even read my original post? I pretty much explained the whole story.

  • J Santorelli

    your dog is missing something in his or her diet. that is typically when they eat cat poop or their own poop. IF they are eating the clay from the litter, then then dog may have some upset stomach issue and the clay will absorb toxins too. i suggest going to the health food store and buying green magma powder and mix a little in the food. if you do dry food, then get capsules. then you should see no more poop eating. and things take more than a day to work!

  • Pattyvaughn

    Hard dry poop is normal for a diet rich in animal proteins, so unless it is a problem for your indiviual dog, I wouldn’t see this as a negative. And you’re right, there is no such thing as a perfect food, that’s why I rotate between a few different foods. I wouln’t feed Science Diet.

  • annie

    um. the following day, the there is no more unknown particles presents in her urine.this food makes my dog happy and so much alert, but too risky. we put her on addiction dry kibble now. got powder ,stone like pool . it’s really about what they eat, i don’t know what happens to natural food nowadays .dog quite healthy, but i start not knowing what to feed next, cause every products seemed not so perfect. though i just want it to be normal and safe. my vet tells me, use science diet , gurantee to get normal pool, urine. but can we have a choice.

  • Pattyvaughn

    If her urine is dark, but still yellow, it means she is concentrating it a lot, and you might want to make sure she drinks more water until she adjusts. If it is brown, then you might want to have her urine checked to make sure she doesn’t have a kidney infection going on.

  • annie

    my dog used to eat kibble (with grain ones) the first day i put her on ziwi peak, she certainly not having enough, and ask for kibbles. the second day, she refused to eat kibble ( as i intend to mix the 2 together),the third day, she isn’t all that hungry. at first i was quite worried, as the qunatity i offer her ( from 30g to 20 g) reduced,and from with grain to no grain, she is really hungry, but on the third day, she is doing fine. but for another problem, i think i might have to switch back to kibbles, as she got dark urine with particles i don’t know what that is. of course i know meat is better for dogs, but maybe it is not the food for my dog. i got to say it’s good food, as my dog becomes very alert, and she likes it. if you were worry about the quanity, give her a little more and reduce it slowly, might work.or give her a few more day to try. good luck

  • annie

    my dog loves this food. she becomes so much alert, and i like their statement ” no suppliment ” need to be added. but same as when we feed additional dehydrate food, my dog gets dark yellow urine,and some small particles in it. and she drank less.after we stop feeding her previous dry kibble ( as it’s no longer available here), we can’t find her something suitable. she gets soft stool for same brand different products,but other problem occurred with other brand. so we go for ziwi peak. now seemed like i made it worse.anyone tried this food, is it a transition period problem, or is it too rich for my dog, so the urine like that? and also any recommendation ,good kibble, no soft stool for all age ?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    ZiwiPeak is appropriate for all life stages. The high protein content is beneficial for seniors because as dogs age they become less efficient at metabolizing protein, yet their dietary requirement for the amino acids protein requires doesn’t decrease. Seniors can actually require up to 50% more protein than adults. You may, however, need to monitor portion sizes due to the high fat content – just feed less if you notice she starts to gain weight.

  • annie

    your dog is small breed or large? my dog is 7. we brought ziwi vension today, but she has been on regular kibble for years,we were kind of worry about the high protein/fat content, i was curious is this food suitable for seniors. your dog is 9, it works well for her a.

  • Guest

    Hi Sharon, the other thing I forgot to mention that unlike pups (Yes would believe?) adult dogs are poor self regulators of how much they eat. Most of them always feel like they need more and more.

    A couple of things I’ll mention below in case your concern also lies with what you might be witnessing in your dog’s behaviour.

    When you see their primal instinctual behaviour of scrounging around for something else to eat or put in their mouths, it just also means that they are practicing their natural instinct in sniffing around, and scavenging for new and enticing, edible things, given the OK, by their superior sense of smell. My dogs like to eat off the ground certain seeds that have accidentally fallen when I have refilled my parrots’ feeders with parrot mixes. It satisfies their curiousity and is completely natural behaviour.

    Or you might also think that when your dog is eating grass, they’re either hungry or it’s a sign of ill-health. This is not the case. Dogs can eat grass for added roughage or fibre and even added nutrition. Like my dogs do, you might witness your dog selectively picking the younger shoots of grass as opposed to the older or larger in mass, ones. This is because the younger shoots have “a thin cell wall that can be digested, whereas older plant cells develop a tough, indigestible, lignified cell wall.” A quote from Dr. Bruce Syme.

    One method of checking that your dog is of an appropriate weight, other than the obvious such as a vet checkup, or the uniform stated weight range for certain breeds etc, is to simply look at your dogs sides and ribs. Can you see any or feel any with out digging in with your fingers. If not, then that is also a good indicator that your dog isn’t underweight, but not necessarily, overweight.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Seizure meds made my epilepsy dog start stealing food and raiding the trashcan. My JRT will do anything at any time to get any scrap of food anywhere. She even reaches through the bars on her kennel and picks up any food dropped outside it and maneuvers the food back into her crate.

  • Pattyvaughn

    I thought that she was on one RC or another regularly and the Acana was what she tried to get her dog to lose weight. I’m very confused…

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Exactly – they don’t need to be full. In some respects dogs are lucky in that they aren’t able to exercise will power. They have to eat what’s put in front of them. So, for an overweight dog, this should be a good thing. I’m sure people would have a much easier time losing weight if they had someone to pre-portion their meals and they could only eat their allotted amount for the day. On the flipside, it’s a bad thing that dogs can’t exercise willpower when they end up in the hands of individuals who make poor nutritional choices for them (overfeeding, feeding vegetarian or vegan food, feeding low quality food, etc.). Luckily for my dogs their meals are all pre-portioned and healthy…so they can’t eat junk food or get fat. :)

  • InkedMarie

    Most dogs will eat anything. I haven’t met many dogs that turn down food. I responded earlier to this poster that why do dogs need to be full?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Well, you can’t tell if a bloodhound is hungry because they’ll eat anything, in any amount, at any time. Personally, I could not care less if my dog is hungry or not. If I’ve got a dog that’s skinny I’ll feed them more at meals and more snacks between meals. If the weight on my dog looks good I keep doing what I’m doing. If my dog is fat (I’ve never had a dog I owned become overweight, but I have several overweight dogs at my shelter that I’m in charge of feeding) – I say who cares if it’s hungry or not, it’s going to eat what I give it and not get a single bite more (regardless of how hungry it “acts”).

  • LabsRawesome BS Detector

    When I switched my 2 dogs to canned/fresh foods, one way that I knew my Springer was still hungry, he started raiding the litter box. Which was something he hadn’t done in almost 3 years, (he ate “cat treats” from the litter box as a young puppy) So that is why I started adding a small amount of kibble back into their meals, and he completely stopped his disgusting behavior. :)

  • LabsRawesome BS Detector

    I noticed that too. You need to give a food more than one day, to know if it’s going to work. Unless the dog is having a severe reaction. I can’t keep track of the daily, sometimes twice a day changes in foods/stories either. Lol.

  • aimee

    I think that is a really valid question. I would guess if they are scavenging as a new behavior that could be an indication.

    Brooke is always on the look out for food, but I don’t consider that due to hunger. However once as a drug side effect she was food crazed! She was moving furniture and tried to get into the bird cages to eat he seed. I considered those new behaviors as a sign that she was experiencing “hunger”

  • InkedMarie

    I still want to know how humans know their dogs are hungry.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’ve noticed the same thing. I’ve quit responding to her lol. She’s on one day saying she’s feeding one thing and asks for advice – then is on the next day with a whole new story.

  • aimee

    Hi Patty,

    I think she was only on the Royal Canin for a day or two?? I think she was primarily on Acana Regionals or Light and Fit. I don’t know… I lose track. It seems Sharron reports that Lexi is being fed a different food every few days.

    I tried ZiWi Peak some time back for Jack and I didn’t like the consistency.. kinda felt like greasy cardboard to me LOL. I wondered about fat stability as well.

  • InkedMarie

    This is a serious question: how do you know your dog is to filled up? A good number of dogs eat and eat til they got sick; that doesn’t mean they’re hungry. Who said dogs have to be filled up? They’re no different than us, we have to be satisfied, not full.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Considering the vast difference in quality between this and what you were feeding, I would assume that her body doesn’t even have what it needs to handle this. Her body is used to producing what it needs to handle Royal Canin, right? This stuff is worlds away from that. She probably needs probiotics and digestive enzymes added to her food no matter what you change her to, but especially with such a huge change in quality. Give them for a couple weeks. The ones in a human health food store are fine.

  • sharron

    Good Morning everyone
    fed lexee this morning the ziwipeak, about an hour later she brought it up along with yesterday’s – i guess it’s too rich for her?

  • smitty

    Hi sharron,

    If you go with feeding raw then 2 to 3% of your dog’s body weight is what is usually recommended for a 4 year old yorkie/chihuahua mix. 2% is usually to lose a little weight, 2.5% is usually to maintain weight and 3% is usually to put on a little weight. Monitor your dog’s weight at least weekly until you have determined the right amount of food for Lexie.

  • Guest

    Ok. There’s no answer that fits all and it’s going to be a case of trial and error in finding that suitable diet for your cross breed toy class dog. But at least you’re on the right track. I have my doubts about Ziwipeak anyway and as mentioned, it’s probably better to use it as an occasional treat for your pooch.

    As a general guideline, start by feeding your dog about 4 to 6% of its body weight, per day. Feeding raw foods of course. processed pet foods like corn ridden kibble and can foods have their own guidelines so the 4 to 6% is based on feeding a raw diet. But when I say raw, it is rfeferingg to actaul raw state and not air dired. Anyway, good liuck with finding that ideal diet.

  • sharron

    Hi
    Lexee is a yorkie/chihuahua – 4 yrs old
    i don’t think this food is going to work – she’s hungry and it isn’t filling her up like the owner of the pet store said it would. if i feed her more she is going to gain the weight back that she has recently lost – she wasn’t obese – about 1 – 1 1/2 lbs and she has lost a lb.

  • Guest

    Ohhh I’d imagine your dog would Ziwipeak jerkies. My dogs love anything raw including air dried raw, which I will usually give at treats. Problem with Ziwipeak, is that it isn’t as filling as they make out. I suspect there’s more carbs and fat then they claim.

    Ziwipeak isn’t cheap either. I think it suits better as treats then main meals. Have you tried raw meaty bones obtained from butchers and supermarkets? Adding such with cut up offal makes a better more nutritious meal and also more full filling for your dogs as well. You’ll finds that you won’t need to feed her like human 3 x day meals, but rather once to twice at the most.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    Hi Sharron,

    I agree with Patty. I would ease her into the ZiwiPeak. Three small meals per day are much more easily digested without as much risk of gastro upset and loose stools. When I only had one small dog, I was feeding Orijen and Ziwi Peak and would’ve loved to have continued the Ziwi Peak, but couldn’t afford to feed it to both my Cavalier and a 75 pound Golden Retriever pup, too!

    I used both the air dried and the canned ZiwiPeak interchangeably. I would think once Lexee is used to the food, she’ll be able to switch back and forth also.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Yes, you can. She may need to get used to it, but that getting used to having different things helps their gut to become healthier and stay healthy.

  • Pattyvaughn

    It may take her a couple of weeks to get used to the new portion size, Dogs do get used to eating a certain amount of food. One of those feeding may need to be increased to 1 1/2 tablespoons so you are feeding her enough, but I would wait to make that adjustment until you see how she is doing on the food.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Try adding a digestive enzyme and maybe probiotics until he has adjusted to the new food. It took my dogs a couple of weeks for their system to adjust, now they have great stools once a day, sometimes twice.

  • sharron

    sorry – another question – can i alternate her meals with the dehydrated and the can ziwipeak?
    thanks again

  • sharron

    well i’m giving ziwipeak air dried a try – bought a bag this afternoon – the calculator on the ziwipeak site says to give lexee 1.7 oz/day – i gave a 1 tbsp = .5 oz – and she is still hungry. i feed her 3 x a day – so i figured out i would give her a tbsp 3 x/day which works out to 1 1/2 oz. should she be still hungry – she was on royal canin – liked it, ate it, but it doesn’t agree with her – i think it’s the wheat.
    thanks

  • bill calhoun

    I’d like to give a big HOOY

    AH to ZP’s Nigel (client executive relations). I’m having an issue with my miniature schnauzer and ZP Venison. Nigel has answered all of my email concerns within 24-hours and guided me through a lengthy but, critical journey to figure out whats up with my little billy junior. BJ was originally on Honest Kitchen–great food as well but, pooping out all that solid mass lead me to believe there really is a lot of carbs they DON’T need–ZP has BJ pooping once every morning. Previously he went twice in the morning, once in the afternoon and once in the evening. His poos, now, are like soft serve ice cream. Nigel of ZP has helped me lessen the amount of food as they mention too much too soon can lead to this. However, unfortunately, its still an issue. Is anyone else having this problem with high protein foods or raw diets? Any suggestions as to what may be going on?

    Thanks

  • Joy Tong

    ts only $128 for 11lb bag @ petfoodstation.com with their 10% off discount with code AUTO65 which is always offered if you google petfoodstation code – shows up retailmenot.com

    Free shipping too. To make this last, I feed my 3 shih tzus this for dinner only and Acana/Orijen kibble during the day.

  • InkedMarie

    Really? Thank you!

  • leowong
  • InkedMarie

    ok so this wouldn’t be appreciated by my little toothless gal, she seems to prefer smoother stuff. Ground raw is fine but she had a harder time with the Grandma Lucys.
    How’s the foster pup doing?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    It’s like strips of jerky.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I also rotate Nature’s Logic canned – it is a good food

  • Dave’s Hounds

    it is like thin square pieces of beef jerky but not as soft. I normally add water even though it does not absorb. I prefer the canned

  • leowong

    A scoop is 2 ounces (weight). Divide the size of your bag by the feeding recommendation in ounces to get the number of days in a bag. Each piece is a half-inch square wafer. I feed ZiwiPeak and Nature’s Logic, dry and canned.

  • InkedMarie

    Hey Dave, is the Ziwi Peak air dried chunky or smooth?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Everyone needs a hobby.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I eat pretty healthy too (most of the time) but for me it’s just kind of whatever sounds good at the time or whatever looks fresh at the grocery store – don’t put a whole lot of thought into it. For the dogs I’ve got everything all written out and pre-planned weeks into advance – I calculate out the cost per serving, calories per serving, etc. Everyone thinks I’m nuts (maybe I am) lol

  • Pattyvaughn

    Index card files are a wonderful thing!!

  • Pattyvaughn

    I definitely put more thought into my animals food than my own, but I do make sure I eat a variety of fresh foods.

  • InkedMarie

    Can you tell me where on the site is to see ow long a bag will last? I see a feeding calculator. Do you feed this? Is it smooth or chunky?

  • InkedMarie

    Not a dummy at all ! We all start somewhere. Me, I take notes

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Yeah prepping raw can be kind of a pain, but I’ve got such a routine down now it really doesn’t take all that much time and thought. And truth be told I probably do put more time and thought into my dogs’ meals than my own, lol!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I have three bloodhounds – 68 lbs, 75 lbs, 110 lbs. They’re also extremely active. Feeding this to a single small dog wouldn’t cost nearly as much.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I rotate through ziwipeak for second meal. I spend a fortune on my dog food but I would never be able to take he time for raw – I don’t take that kind of time for myself

  • http://www.facebook.com/mah4angel Mary Alida Hornaday

    WOW how big are your dogs???? I only have one and he’s a ten-pound silky but… that is quite a lot of money.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I priced this out at one time (to feed a combination of the air-dried and canned) and it came up to over $1,000 per month for my three dogs. I currently feed all three raw for about $400 per month. This stuff is definitely higher quality than kibble, but at that price it’s I don’t see any point in feeding it. If someone has that kind of money they should just feed raw.

  • leowong

    You can use their calculator to see the daily Ziwipeak ration and how long a bag will last, then compare that with the recommended feedings of other brands and their comparable cost.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mah4angel Mary Alida Hornaday

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, that makes sense! And you’d feed your dog far less then a traditional kibble then, I’m sure. Thanks so much! You guys are seriously so great! I feel like such a dummy.