Stella and Chewy’s Freeze Dried (Freeze-Dried)

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Rating: ★★★★½

Stella and Chewy’s Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food gets the Advisor’s top rating of 4.5 stars.

The Stella and Chewy’s product line lists five freeze-dried raw dog foods, each claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages.

The following is a list of recipes available at the time of this review.

  • Chewy’s Chicken Freeze-Dried Dinner
  • Stella’s Super Beef Freeze-Dried Dinner
  • Stella and Chewy’s Surf and Turf Dinner
  • Stella and Chewy’s Dandy Lamb Freeze-Dried Dinner
  • Stella and Chewy’s Duck Duck Goose Freeze-Dried Dinner

Stella’s and Chewy’s Duck Duck Goose Freeze-Dried Dog Food was selected to represent the others in the line for this review.

Stella and Chewy's Duck Duck Goose Freeze-Dried

Raw Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 42% | Fat = 30% | Carbs = 20%

Ingredients: Duck with ground bone, turkey, turkey liver, goose, turkey gizzard, pumpkin seed, potassium chloride, organic cranberries, organic spinach, organic broccoli, organic beets, sodium phosphate monobasic, organic carrots, organic squash, organic apples, organic blueberries, choline chloride, dried Pediococcus acidilactici fermentation product, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Bifidobacterium longum fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, taurine, tocopherols (preservative), calcium carbonate, zinc proteinate, zinc sulfate, iron sulfate, iron proteinate, vitamin E supplement, niacin, copper sulfate, copper proteinate, manganese sulfate, sodium selenite, manganese proteinate, thiamine monohydrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin D3 supplement, calcium iodate, vitamin B12 supplement

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.2%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis40%28%NA
Dry Matter Basis42%30%20%
Calorie Weighted Basis31%53%15%

The first item in this dog food lists duck. Duck is considered “the clean combination of flesh and skin… derived from the parts or whole carcasses of duck”.1

Duck is naturally rich in the ten essential amino acids required by a dog to sustain life. Plus this particular meat also includes ground bone… an excellent source of natural calcium.

The second ingredient includes turkey, another poultry item with a nutrient profile similar to duck.

The third ingredient is turkey liver. This is an organ meat sourced from a named animal and thus considered a beneficial component.

The fourth ingredient is goose, yet one more poultry item.

The fifth ingredient is turkey gizzard. The gizzard is a low-fat, meaty organ found in the digestive tract of birds and assists by grinding up a consumed food. As foreign as it may seem to us humans, the gizzard is a favored delicacy to a dog.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of nutrient-rich fruits and vegetables

  • Pumpkin seed
  • Organic cranberries
  • Organic spinach
  • Organic broccoli
  • Organic beets
  • Organic carrots
  • Organic squash
  • Organic apples
  • Organic blueberries

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptions

First, we note the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb.

And lastly, we note the inclusion of dried fermentation products in this recipe. Fermentation products are typically added to provide enzymes to aid the animal with digestion.

Stella and Chewy’s Freeze-Dried Raw Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Stella and Chewy’s Freeze-Dried Raw looks to be an above-average dog food.

But ingredient quality alone can’t paint the whole picture. It’s still crucial to estimate the amount of meat present in the line before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 42%, a fat level of 30% and an estimated carbohydrate content of 20%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 41% and a mean fat level of 31%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 20% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 76%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical raw dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a freeze-dried raw dog food containing a notable amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Stella and Chewy’s is a meat-based freeze-dried raw dog food using a notable amount of named species and their organs as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4.5 stars.

Highly recommended.

To read about another raw food from the same company be sure to see our review of Stella and Chewy’s Raw Frozen Dinners.

For more suggestions, be sure to visit the Advisor’s Recommended Raw Dog Foods summary page.

Special Alert

Rice ingredients can sometimes contain arsenic. Until the US FDA establishes safe upper levels for arsenic content, pet owners may wish to limit the total amount of rice fed in a dog's daily diet.

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Notes and Updates

06/15/2010 Original review
01/14/2011 Updated (chelated minerals)
12/30/2012 Rating adjusted to 4.5 stars due to modified protein, fat and carb guidelines for our raw dog food category
10/19/2012 Last Update

  1. Adapted by the Dog Food Advisor from the official definition for chicken published by the American Association of Feed Control Officials, 2008 Edition
  • lel

    some dogs are sensitive to chicken. Try beef or venison

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I can tell you the freeze-dried is probably 4.5 stars instead of 5 because the fat content is so high. I just the did the fat to protein ratio on a dry matter basis for the freeze-dried beef formula and the frozen beef formula and the frozen formula actually contains a higher fat to protein ratio – so I’m not sure why the frozen is still rated 5 stars. The rating for the frozen may be brought down when the review is updated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Peggy-Rands/100000070671309 Peggy Rands

    Why is the freeze-dried 4.5 stars and frozen is 5 stars. The formula is the same. Only difference is processing. This review indicates that the minerals are NOT chelated, yet the ingredients have chelated minerals in it – like iron proteinate. Is there something in the freeze drying process destroys the chelated minerals?

    My toy poodle puppy loves this food and is thriving on it. I was having lots of problems finding a food that he would consistently eat – sort of the once and done routine. I went in desperation to my local pet store and they pointed me to Stella and Chewy’s. He really likes Goose Goose Duck, Dandy Lamb and Amazing Rabbit. He’ll eat Chicken, Beef and Venison when he is really hungry.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Ed Taylor –

    I’ve never heard of Sunshine Mills treats but I’ve used Stewart’s liver treats in the past and I feel they’re a high quality and high value treat that’s perfect for training. I’m actually using Stewart’s Pro Treat Raw Naturals as training treats for my crew at the moment.

  • Ed Taylor

    My dog likes the Lamb, from Stella & Chewy’s. I’m glad it has 5 Stars.

    I could not find any Reviews on Sunshine Mills or Stewart. Can anyone answer the following Q’s?
    Q 1: Any reviews on Sunshine Mills, Meaty Treats, Lamb & Rice Jerky?
    Q 2: Any reviews on Stewart, Pro-Treat, 100% Pure Beef Liver treats for dogs?

    PS: This website seems to have a lot of information, and good comments.

    Thanks, Nailbreak

  • InkedMarie

    because she said she was feeding Solid Gold. She started adding in S&C and the dogs started scratching like crazy. The S&C sounds like it caused the itching.

  • Sue

    Why do you say that????

  • Pouncey

    I’m not sure if this applies to the dog formulas, but the cat (fish) ones have Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, which is a big turn-off for me.

  • Sandy

    No it hardly absorbed water. Stayed pretty solid!

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    sandy, it’s funny you posted this because I was just on VE’s website and facebook doing some research on it lol.  A FB poster commented that the nibblets were kinda hard, more like kibble, and asked if she should rehydrate it….she said she tried, but it really didn’t absorb water all that much.  VE’s representative responded that it did not need to be rehydrated and it is more like a kibble.  It can be fed, as is, or used as treats.  I plan on buying some of their FD patties and the nibblets, too.  I’ll use the nibblets as treats, for the most part.  I want to be able to rehydrate any freeze dried that I feed because my dogs all need the extra moisture.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I just opened my first bag of Vital Essentials FD yesterday and it wasn’t like I expected.  The other freeze dried is sort of soft (S&C, Nutrisca) but this one (the nibblets) was hard like jerky and kibble.  Is that because there is no produce?  It is just meat and organs.

  • InkedMarie

    Stop feeding the Stella & Chewys.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    Hmm….I haven’t been using Stella & Chewy’s for long (I also use Primal FD, and plan on getting some Vital Essentials FD).  I haven’t noticed any scratching in my dogs like you’ve noticed.  If I were you I’d stop using S&C’s and see what happens.  Maybe someone else will help.  Please let us know.  :)

  • Buddy & Sasha

    We have a husky and a mixed breed. Both over 50 lb. We started mixing S & C with their dry Solid Gold. They both started scratching like crazy. They have been on Solid Gold all their lives. Both have beautiful soft coats. They can not stop scratching. We wonder if anyone has experienced any similar reaction? The husky is 11years old and the mixed breed is 13 years old. It is frustrating to watch them scratch so often. Can anyone Help?

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    A retailer near me had a 20% off during the month of December on S&C.

  • Jan_Mom2Cavs

    I know I said that after this bag, I’d be using Primal FD only but I saw a great deal on Stella and Chewy’s FD at k9cuisine.com and had to order some.  It’s on sale for 30% off!  Plus, I got an email from them with a coupon code NY15 for 15% off…I think it’s only good for today, though.  Ended up saving about 8-10.00 a bag!  Check it out, if feeding Stella and Chewy’s FD.  Oh, and free shipping over 49.00.

  • Pugsonraw

    Two new flavors….. Besides the “simply venison”, they also have an “absolutely rabbit” dinner to the mix.  These are both available in freeze dried dinners as well as raw.   The protein is higher on these two types and FTP ratio is lower than some of the other varieties.  Maybe something to check out if you use this product.

    I have pugs with allergies so the novel protein types are my go-to’s for them.

  • Pugsonraw

    They just came out with a simply venison dinner for dogs. The GA is 45% protein, 30% fat, 4% fiber and 5% moisture. These are 65 calories a patty. They had them at a local store and I picked up a bag.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Your dog should be able to handle the pieces of bone in it. You might want to email the company and let them know that you are finding pieces of bone that are larger than you are comfortable with, but dogs were made to be able to handle bone.

  • Dali

    We just found ourselves on the same situation ,and are extremely worried that took our puppy to the vet… Did you solve your problem? Please advice .
    Thank you

  • Shawna

    My puppy was born with kidney disease..  Symptoms were noticed before weaning.  She was weaned onto raw food and has been eating raw the last 6 and 1/2 years and is doing fabulously… :)   She still has kidney disease but she is healthy despite her disease.

    Nutritionist and breeder Lew Olson weans her Rottie puppies onto a raw diet.  Veterinary Naturopath and breeder Dr. Jeannie Thomason weans her Boston Terrier puppies onto a raw diet.  Many others, as Hound Dog Mom mentioned, do too..

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Rose –

    I have three bloodhounds all raw fed – my newest addition (now 5 months old) has been on raw since she was 8 weeks old. Some breeders wean pups right on to raw. If your concern with having a pup on raw is bacteria, Stella & Chewy’s isn’t technically raw – it’s high pressure processed – so as long as it’s stored properly there shouldn’t be any bacteria.

  • Rose

    I just started feeding my 9 week old schnoodle the C&S beef raw food diet. She loves it. Has anyone else started their dog on raw food that young?

  • Liz

    My mini poodle has very sensitive tummy and has some food allergy, he is doing well on raw freeze dried Dandy lamb thats it~ thats only flavor meat he likes to eat lamb, and also i cook for him few days a week,  he likes homecooking fresh baked/broiled salmon and adding veggies and fruits along with vitamines, my questions and concern is sometimes i find sharp and hard white small bones in the dandy lamb, i picked up and try to break but it was very hard and i even try to bite the bone ~ still very hard to chew~ so i try to grinded in food processor, oh boy still not grinded, it was very hard to grinded, so i finally i had no choice either stop feeding the S/C or shredded the meat with hand and pick out the white bones as possible throw out the bones,  cause i don’t want my poodle get stuck and damaged his throat tissues when he swellowed one of the S/C sharp bone pieces, i don’t want him to get sick again!! so frustrated when i see this kind things in the dog food, i have to find another different food and start all over again with transition food again~~

     i heard about food called ziwipeak air dried raw more safer and better then S/C, is anybody feeding ziwipeak air dried vension meat to small breed dog  alike poodle???

  • Liz

    oh my ~ happens again, my mini poodle rejected all the most of top brand kibbles~ evo, natural variety instinct, natural balance, wellness, orijen, california natural, innova evo, blue buffalo, canidae, Fromm, spring natural, and has more other kibbles, also he is almost gonna refused to eat some meat from stella and chewys freeze dried surf and turf, he tried the surf and turf for 2 weeks and chewys chicken for 1 week and half, super stella beef for 5 days, duck duck goose for 3 days did not worked out with duck meat, got loose stool, and throw up, at last he tried stella and chewys dandy lamb (2) 6 oz bags~ so far he likes the dandy lamb only, he rejected all the meats ~surf and turf, duck duck goose, stella beef,

    Now he wants to eat stella and chewys dandy lamb at last, i stop feeding him dry kibbles and transition to stella and chewys for his better health overall, raw food is more healthier for dog so thats why i tried the freeze dried raw dog food, so far i was feeing stella and chewys all the flavors for 1 month and half and the result, now his ear infection is not better, and find out that he is allergic to beet, too much beet causing a ear infection cause beet is sweet and sweet cause ear infection, sweet smell odor cause ear infection as well, i don’t how much the beet in the stella and chewys,

    anyway, i am feeding homecooking meal sometimes, and plus stella and chewys dandy lamb with green veggies and fresh fruits, i want to try the primal freeze dried raw dog food lamb meat, this food don’t have beet in ings, is anyone feeding primal freeze dried dog food small breed dog???
     and also if i have to go back to kibbles one day, i wanted to try on feeding the healthy kibbles such as Acana single lamb and apple formula, i  heard that this food is limited ings diet and it is good for dog has food allergy,,, i really need help soon, my poodle having food war NOW!! :( (

  • Jenska Orders

    Hi. I just had to take my dog to the vet $1500 and still counting because of the chard bones Stella and chewy put into there foods. I do not recommend this product line for any animals. Chard or fragmented bones can be very dangerous. So far my dog has had to stay int he hospital three days, had an X-ray, a hoard of blood work, the bones being lodged inflated pancrities, she also needed an ultra sound. She still can’t get these particular out of her body, then they will have to do invasive surgery. Not worth it! Stay away from the brand

  • orangana1

    We give our Shih Tzu puppy (8 months old) little pieces of the Stella & Chewy’s Chicken Dinner, for a treat. He LOVES it-but always seems to have runny poop after eating it. I wonder why?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I don’t think the honest kitchen ever claimed to be raw. I used to feed it awhile back and it’s always been on their website that the meat is not raw.

  • DebbsHereNow

    My dogs are the opposite, they walk away from The Honest kitchen and LOVE Stella and Chewys. Did you know that the Honest Kitchen is no longer raw foods? It is now called whole foods

  • Jennifer

     Hi Kim, I did not contact the company about the bone shards. I’ve just been very careful when crumbling a patty to feel around for any sharp pieces and haven’t found any since. I had to stop feeding only Stella’s because my chihuahua will not eat it. She sniffs at it and walks away. But if I crumble it up in her other food (The Honest Kitchen Force) she eats it up with no problem. So she is back on the Honest Kitchen food, even though she produces a lot of poop still, it’s the only food she is really excited about eating. I stopped using the Nordic Naturals fish oil because she just did not tolerate it at all. But I have been giving her treats from The Honest Kitchen called Pecks and wow, I think they make a difference with her coat. The shedding isn’t as extreme as it has been and she has a shine to her fur that I’ve never seen before. I chose those treats because of the coconut oil content. A friend of mine suggested it in place of the fish oil but I didn’t want to use pure coconut oil, in case she reacted badly. Right now, I’m happy with feeding her THK along with a small piece of Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried patty mixed in and Bonnie seems happy. I just hope it stays this way…lol. Trying to find a food she will tolerate has been a long journey.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.yardum.knight Kim Yardum Knight

    Jennifer, i wish I could help you with your questions.  The small, sharp pieces of bone shards concerns me. Did you contact the company about them?  I’d be curious as to what they had to say.  Regarding the poop, S&C has more meat in it than THK so the poops will be less.  The more meat, the less poop :-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.yardum.knight Kim Yardum Knight

    Hi Yojill, I don’t know about Natures Variety so I can’t comment on that, but if you want to continue feeding your dog Stella and Chewy’s with The Honest Kitchen, you should not use Preference – it doesn’t have any protein in it.  You should use one of their other varieties.  Force and Embark are good, grain-free options.  How much does your dog weigh?  Be sure you’re giving him enough food.  Stella and Chewy and The Honest Kitchen are both very top-quality foods, so I think you’re moving in the right direction :)

  • Yojill

    Hi All,
    I have been feeding my 13 year old Westie Stella and Chewy’s Duck Duck Goose frozen raw patties. I give him 1/2 frozen pattie along with 1/2 cup of Honest Kitchen Preference twice a day.  He is inactive as he has many medical issues.  I did notice he seemed to be hungry after he eats.  I was told by a another owner to switch him over to the Natures Variety frozen meal that it had more protein and would keep him satisfied longer.  They also told me that the police officers were using Stella and Chewys for their dogs but they were losing weight, so they switched over to Natures Variety.  Any comments or ideas as to why this be? 

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’ve heard of fish oil causing cramps and digestive upset in people, I’m not sure if it has the same effect on dogs though. I give my dogs fish oil daily and have never had any problems. If the pain continues I’d definitely have her seen by a vet.

  • Jennifer

    So I have been feeding my 1 year old chihuahua Stella’s Chicken and also the Surf and Turf to give her more protein sources and she seems to be doing quite well on this food. I mentioned in my posts on The Honest Kitchen thread that she was pooping and shedding a lot while on that brand. The pooping is so much better on this food but the shedding is still a concern. She is a long haired chihuahua, but she’s never shed like this before I started changing her food. I have added in Nordic Naturals Omega 3 drops to her breakfast in hopes that it will help with the shedding. Haven’t seen an improvement yet but it’s only been a few days. One concern I have with Stella’s is that I have found a few small, sharp pieces of bones shards while crumbling one of the patties. This past week, she had two occurrences where she was not feeling well and threw up an hour or two after eating her food. I’m now wondering if the bone shards are to blame? Yesterday, she seemed to be in pain in her lower abdomen. When I tried to pick her up, she cried out. It startled me and of course, it being a holiday, the vet was closed. She was fine later on and today she is perfectly normal. I wonder if the Omega 3 oil could be causing her some distress? I give her only 2.5 ml once a day.

  • GSDGal ;)

    Ok I need some advice. I would like to add some freeze dried raw to Rasauno’s diet to hopefully maybe help him put on some weight. Ive looked into Natures Vairety and also Stella and Chewys. I’d like some input. Which one, how much is generally fed to a large dog and etc. I’m starting to grasp at straws with my poor boy, yesterday he had the runs and I’m not sure what from. It’s been awfully hot here does that mess with their systems?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Leerburg Kennel’s also offers some good articles, they have a free e-book available in pdf form. http://leerburg.com/pdf/feedingrawdiet.pdf – really a great outline of the basics, not overly detailed or hard to understand. I think it’s a good read for beginners.

  • Shawna
  • Shawna

    Hi Terry ~~ In my opinion, Stella & Chewy foods are a bit too high in fat for a non-working dog.  Sled dogs need more fat then protein when training but house pets should get more protein then fat (calorie wise).

    The product Mike rates above has 31% of calories from protein while having a whopping 53% of calories from fat.. 

    Kibbled foods are not “species appropriate” because the protein is replaced with carbs (and they are processed of course).  Many commercial raw products are likewise not truly “species appropriate” either because the protein is replaced by fat.  Protein should make up 49% of calories and fat should be 44% (slightly less not more).  A good way to try to achieve this ratio is to get a high protein diet where fat is less then 50% of the protein (because fat has over double the calories).

    All that said — MLD does a great job with her little Bichon in adding the Weruva canned foods which are low fat.  The inclusion brings the overall protein up and the overall fat down..  :)

  • MLD

    Our Bichon has been eating Stella & Chewy’s for about a year.  It is his favorite food.  He looks great ~ no tear stains on a white dog, great eyes, fluffy coat. He weighs 14 lbs.; so the cost isn’t outrageous for his size.  We started adding Weruva canned in the past couple of months for an even more delectable meal.  : )

  • LA

    When I was researching the Raw Diet – I found these websites very helpful.  Also on this site Shawna, Hound Dog Mom & Toxie are very helpful and tell you first hand what they feed and their experiences.

    http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm     (Barf For Beginners and Myths)

    http://www.dogaware.com/index.html

    http://recipes4gourmetdogs.com/

    http://switchingtoraw.com/

    http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/sampleraw.htm

    http://rawmeatybones.com/

  • Hound Dog Mom

     My dogs love freeze-dreid S&C as treats. It’s the only freeze-dreid that come sin big enough medallions that they don’t just swallow them whole. :)

  • LA

    My dogs actually love it – you can go on their site and ask for a sample -  I am using the freeze dried Lamb and they love the crunchy duck – I break it up and put on their kibble or the duck as a treat.  And it is Safe Raw – go to their website for all the information.

  • Terry

    I am trying Stella & Chewy’s Freeze Dried Beef for my 13# Cockapoo. She is pretty picky but really likes this, so I am wondering if anyone has any comments about Stella & Chewys, good or bad ? I just want to be sure I am giving her a good, healthy food:)
    Thanks,

    Terry

  • Toxed2loss

    In that new one, you can see its below the vitamins. That’s not much at all. Though there are a couple of ingredients at the top that would eliminate this from my feeding rotation.

    Canola oil is not healthful!! It is bad stuff. It is high in Uric acid which causes inflammation (gout).

    Natural Turkey flavor = free glutamic acid = MSG.

    Just sayin’. :-}

  • LA

    Just checked and it is mentioned in the middle not at the beginning – of Nature Variety Raw Boost -  This is new kibble with pieces of freeze dried meat -
    Venison Meal, Lamb Meal, Turkey Meal, Tapioca, Canola Oil, Sun-Cured Alfalfa Meal, Turkey Liver, Pumpkinseeds, Natural Turkey Flavor, Freeze Dried Venison, Freeze Dried Lamb Liver, Freeze Dried Lamb Heart, Sea Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins (Choline Chloride, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate, Biotin, Niacin Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Beta-Carotene, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide), Montmorillonite Clay, Freeze Dried Ground Lamb Bone

  • Toxed2loss

    Rabble rouser!! LOL

  • doggonefedup

    Toxed,
    I agree 110%! I’ve used pumpkin in the past also. We keep a can of pumrkin on the shelf just in case. OMG I just noticed the one I have is “best by APR 2010″ ! Thank You I’ll be replacing that now.
    P.S. I was just trying to stir the pot bit !!! ;-}

  • Toxed2loss

    You can use bone meal to firm up stools (don’t over do it). Shawna has mentioned pumpkin purée, and I would think adding probiotics would also help under that scenario. The key being to re-establish a healthy intestine, as opposed to just dealing with symptoms. I.e. treat the problem, not the symptoms. :-)

  • Toxed2loss

    :-( 4 u

  • doggonefedup

    SO if “Montmorillonite Clay is used to firm stools in dog food”  
    Then an interesing concept could be……..that racid material that somehow got into the dog food and caused a “loose stool” could be remidied by adding the clay to firm up the stool before it is expelled…..just saying!  boy, you never really know what you’re getting these days!

  • doggonefedup

    Modern processing has put silica on the same list as asbestos! Todays “milling” process is making it possible to grind silica into finer and finer “dust”. As a result airborne particles can be inhaled as deeply as asbestos. Since it is a crystaline substance it can cause the same scaring associated with asbestos. I am living proof of that…….. 

  • Toxed2loss

    Good info everyone. Here’s something else, clays contain silica, which is a carcinogen. They can also irritate the intestines if too much is consumed. So take a look at where that ingredient is located on the label.

  • LA

    ok I goggle Montmorillonite Clay and it said it used to firm stools in dog food ! wow did not know that one.

  • doggonefedup

    Montmorillonite Clay is high in calcium, iron, and “Ionic” trace minerals. It also expands like a sponge when you add water.
     It is added to dog foods for it mineral content. It has also been marketed as an appetite control because when taken with water it expands in the stomach and gives you a “full feeling”

  • Toxed2loss

    It’s a clean, white clay, from France, used to absorb toxins. Does it work? Eh. Depends on the toxins.

  • LA

    Thanks for heads up – got no cats in my house – so hopefully they have the Weruva for dogs.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    I use Jammin Salmon, Cirque de la Mer, Amazon Liver, Funky Chunky Chicken Soup, Steak Fritas, Wok the Dog, Paw Lickin Chicken,…they’re all good!!  I got it for less through Amazon.

  • Mike P

    How much and how many times do you give pumkin seed oil ? I just googled it and it sounds like a great add in.

  • LA

    hey there shawna what the heck is this Montmorillonite Clay – I was at the pet food store checking out the foods and this was on the Nature Variety Bag??

  • Shawna

    Pumpkin seed oil = GOOD STUFF!!

  • SanDnMila

    Some stores say they carry Weruva and turns out they only carry the Weruva cat food, from personal experience. So maybe you can call them before you head there just to make sure they do have it or they might even be able to order it for you. My pup has only tried the Steak Frites so far and she likes it, give it a try. :)

  • Mary Lou

    Hi LA ~ Dupree has allergies to chicken. He has had all the varieties, except chicken, of the Stella & Chewy’s. His favorite, hands (paws) down is Duck, Duck, Goose!

    The only Weruva he is eating is the Steak Frites. It looks like something you truly could eat. We tried some chicken, which looked yummy, but just didn’t work for him. If chicken is not an issue, then there are many to choose from. I don’t see how you can go wrong.

    I saw you asked about Nutrisca. Dupree eats very little kibble, but has been doing great on the Salmon. No issues at all. Happy shopping!! : )

  • LA

    Wow Mary Lou I just looked up Weruva – I have heard people talk about on this site – I checked to see which store in my area had it – and it was store I was in today – damn wish I would have known – I think I will go back tomorrow and pick-up more Stella and then Weruva – what is your recommendation – which stella and Weruva do you like best???  You know Stella & Weruva together – this sounds like a good plan.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    We never cook for ourselves so we also look for easy and simple for our hounds. They get the freeze dried or air dried with canned (Instinct, Ziwipeak, Natures Logic) and Epigen 90 and I add salmon, fish oil or pumkin seed oil etc. I spend about $100 per week to feed my two coon hounds

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I use as treats – the dogs love them.

  • Mary Lou

    Dupree would tell you that this is the BEST food there is!!  Add a little Weruva and you will have the happiest dog in the world.  No wait ~ that’s Dupree!  ; )

  • SanDnMila

    Just bought the duck crunch today, Mila tried it as a treat and loved it of course

  • LA

    Was at the dog food store today and a rep from stella & Chewy was there talking to people and giving out free samples of the freeze dried beef patties and the carnivore Crunchy duck recipe.  So I said the what the heck – went home the girls went crazy over the duck crunch – you can give it to them as a treat, training reward or crumble over their kibble.

  • Mary Lou

    Not sure which food to post this under ~ probably both.  For the last few weeks, we have found the most perfect (for Dupree) combo of food.  He eats one Stella & chewy’s freeze dried duck patty with two heaping tablespoons of Weruva Steak Frites.  He is in doggy heaven, and looks gorgeous with NO scratching at all!!  We are so happy!!  He has clear eyes, great fluffy Bichon coat, etc.  I just ordered a bag of the Stella & Chewy’s Surf N Turf.  The Weruva (per Shawna) cuts the higher fat in the Stella & Chewy’s.  Life is good for one spoiled rotten Bichon.  : )

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  • Cynthia

    My grandsons puppy Buddy is a 6 month old mini pinture and chiwawa (spelling?). is the most pickiest eater. Vet even said under weight. Steela and Cheweys dog food is a life saver for when Buddy visits me on the weekend. It says 1 patty for his weight but he wants more. I gave him 3 1/2 patty mixed slightly with water and he devoured it. I have to drive a ways to get it but Im happy to see him eat the distance does not matter.Thank you Stella and Chewey. Least when he visits me he eats like a king. Cynthia–Aliso Viejo, CA

  • Mary Lou

    Hi monkey ~ there is nothing wrong with that at all.  I think they are saying it is truly not cost effective to feed a larger dog all S&C due to the price and amount you would feed. 

  • monkey

    Stella and Chewy say that you can use it as a kibble topper for dogs over 30lb. Whats wrong with doing it with smaller dogs??

  • hagelult

    Alex,

    I was having the same issue with prices when I decided to switch my dog to raw. I was hesitant about mixing my own because of fears of not having the right meat/organ/bone ratio. I have two LARGE (and active!) bloodhounds so the premade is just not an option (according to my calculations it would have cost almost $300 a week to feed my dogs premade primal!). I thought primal really appeared to be the highest quality and wanted to feed it so I decided to buy their grinds (which have the correct ratio of meat/organ/and bone) and add my own supplements. To their grinds I add raw green tripe, fruits & vegetables, digestive enzymes and probiotics, kelp or alfalfa, bee pollen, whole raw egg, raw goat’s milk, salmon oil, and vitamin e. It’s ALOT cheaper to do it this way. You can even sub RMBs (turkey necks, chicken backs, etc.) for one meal a day to cut costs further. But as far as premade, the cheapest brands would be Bravo, Northwest Naturals, and probably Aunt Jeni’s. Hope that helps!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Alex,

    Unfortunately, due to the constantly changing daily prices of retail dog food in a free market system, it’s impossible for me to keep track of the more than 3,000 recipes listed on my website.

    So, I can’t tell you which brands would tend ot be the “most affordable”.

    You may wish to check back for suggestions from some of our other readers.

    Wish I could be more help.

  • Alex v

    Hi there. Thanks for your informative and helpful website. Very helpful. My dog has been on Primal raw for 8 months, and I’m looking to rotate with some freeze dried/dehydrated/other frozen raw brands. From your experience, which brands are the most affordable? I’d like to keep her on a premade raw, because I don’t feel confident enough mixing up my own food. I like the peace of mind knowing she’s getting all the nutrients she needs. Thanks so much for your time!

    Alex

  • Drpepper_jam1

    Dear DebbsHereNow,
    I am having trouble figuring out what to eliminate from pepper’s diet. I do know she has a histamine release when she ingests shellfish. But now that she is on steroids again(which I hate, but had to do it), it is even more difficult to determine what she is reacting to. All I know is the makers of honest kitchen told me she should not still be itchy, so they wanted me to try a different food, but my holistic vet wants her to stay on turkey. it is very confusing

  • DebbsHereNow

    I think you should try any highly rated dog food to see what will work for your dog. He has allergies and you just need to eliminate what is not working for him. My dogs used to like the Honest kitchen, but now they ignore it, but they do LOVE Stella and Cheweys, all flavors, especially duck duck goose

  • Drpepper_jam1

    i was reading what another person wrote about stella and chewy freeze dried duck,duck paties and her dog broke out into a itching frenzy and got red. that is what happens to pepper sometimes after ingesting certain foods that seem to cause a histamine response. Now i am not sure this is a good food to try after all. I just want her hair to grow back and for her to be comfortable at age  10, shitz tzu mix. 

  • Drpepper_jam1

    my dog pepper is still suffering with allergies on keen by THK. Do you think freeze dried duck and turkey patties would be a better choice, at least to see how she reacts, does she stay itchy, or even will her hair start to grow back?

  • Mary Lou

    annie ~ our dog eats Stella & Chewy’s Duck and does extremely well on it.  I think perhaps the “weird poos” you are describing are perhaps due to the bone in the food.  Are they smaller and gumball like?  If so, perhaps add a small bit of canned pumpkin until the stools are more “normal”.  Are you adding water to it?  I add a good amount of filtered water to make it a thick soup consistency. Our dog eats this for one meal per day, and ZiwiPeak for the other.  Both great foods IMO.  Hope this helps.

  • annie

    We tried Stella and Cheweys for about 4 weeks and my dog had terrible tummy troubles (weird poos). I asked our Vet about it and she said that raw food is much too dangerous. She said she’s seen more dogs come in with kidney failure on it. Be very careful!

  • Debbie

    my 2 chinese crested eat TOTW and Stella and Cheweys, they are doing fantastic on it! The bag will tell you how much to feed, or  you can play it by ear. See if your dog is still hungry, or if it seems like too much

  • Debbie

    it is made from raw but freeze dried. My dogs love it. I would never worry about it!

  • Marie

    I have three very picky cats but they LOVE Stella and Chewy’s, and it’s the only version of raw that I’m comfortable giving at this time.

    I don’t mind paying if it’s healthy for them but the cat version is super expensive. The dog version seems to be a better value. I’m wondering if I could give them the *dog* Stella and Chewy’s intermittently with their other foods. Thoughts?

  • Meg K

    I have a 2 year old shih zhu who is extremely picky and suffers from IBD. I have been struggling with her on trying to find something that she will eat and will not upset her system. I think she has food allergies to chicken, beef and grains. I just started giving her the freeze-dried duck and she was doing pretty well but now is starting to turn her nose up to it. So I started topping it with Evanger’s duck but of course she is also starting to turn away from it. Someone suggested giving her PetKind can food but I didn’t find it listed on your site. Is this a brand that you will be reviewing in the future? Has anyone tried this brand or offer any suggestions??

  • Jennifer

    Maria- dogs have been eating raw their whole lives for thousands of years. Cats to this day eat mice and chipmunks and are fine. Dogs digestive systems are much different than humans and they react better to raw food. May I recommend watching this video from Dr. Karen Becker from Mercola Healthy Pets..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wLTlqnMMg

    Raw food diet is actually better than commercial dog food.

  • maria

    I REALLY wanna try this brand but I’m scared! Raw? What is there’s a parasite in it?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Laura… I don’t see any downside to replacing a canned dog food topper with re-hydrated Stella and Chewy’s.

    As to how much to feed, that can be a problem whenever you mix two foods. I would advise you to start out by estimating what would seem to be an appropriate total serving size. Then, over time (every few weeks, or so), you could adjust the total serving size up (or down) to maintain your dog’s ideal weight. Hope this helps.

  • Laura

    Hi, I was wondering if Stella and Chewy’s could make a better alternative to canned food. If I rehydrated it, could I add it to TOTW dry food, and leave out canned altogether? If so, how do I find out how much of each to feed a 10pound, 11 month old, chinese crested? Thank you!

  • Gordon

    Jennifer – IMO, and based on literature read, I would advise against topping a whole patty of Stellas (Which is already close to a complete meal in itself) to any kibble. For one, does the TOTW kibble already contain bone in their meat meals, and you run the risk of overfeeding calcium as Stellas already has ground bone in it. So one full patty of Stellas to kibble could actually be detrimental long term. However, adding say a small portion of one patty to a quality kibble meal for added palatability should be OK. But definitely not one whole patty.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Jennifer… Provided both foods are AAFCO rated for either growth or all life stages, I don’t see any problem with topping. Unfortunately, due to the biological uniqueness of each pet, I cannot provide customized product analysis and comparisons for each reader.

    For more help, please check out my reviews and visit our FAQ page. Or check back for a possible response from one of our other readers. Wish I could be more help.

  • Jennifer

    For my 4 month old golden retriever puppy, I have been feeding her Taste Of The Wild Fowl flavor and topping it with one patty of Stella & Chewy’s chicken. Would you recommend to keep doing this? Is this good for her diet? Or, should we just feed them to her as treats?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Amanda… As far as cutting back on the cost, I’m not sure diluting a dog food’s protein content with lower quality ingredients is the best way to go. Besides, the belief that older dogs require less dietary protein appears to be a myth. Old age isn’t a disease, but simply a life stage. That’s all.

    To learn more about this controversial subject, please visit our FAQ page and look for the topic, “Dog Food Protein”. Be sure to follow all the links you’ll find there, too.

    Hope this helps.

  • Amanda

    Does anyone have any suggestions on how to feed this brand while cutting down the protein a bit? I love the ingredients and how easy it is to find, but feeding it alone, even for my 7 lb Pomeranian is proving to be a bit pricey, plus (more importantly) I’m concerned about the protein levels being too high for her. She is 6 years old and I have had her for two years, the greater part of which I fed her Evo small bites poultry formula then more recently had switched her to NOW. She did great on both foods, but in the time I have been feeding her NOW, some minor liver irregularities have cleared up and I’m wondering if this is due to the nutrition profile. I have to start feeding her soft food, as she has had several teeth removed (hard life before I got her) and she loves the taste of S&C, but the protein level seems so high for her, esp as she is an older dog and a lap dog. Anyone have any ideas? I’ve looked into Addiction, but the lack of variety of veg in it concerns me as well as even lower than NOW protein levels.

  • Alma

    Although not listed in the “where to buy” section yet, this food is available in South Austin, Texas. You can get it at Tomlinson’s in Circle C, on Slaughter. They have been there less than a year so they don’t show up in the finder yet, but they carry Nature’s Variety Instinct, Orijen, Blue and most top-rated foods.

  • Gordon

    Yeah Mary Lou, Shawna and Shameless did indeed bring up HHP. BARF in Australia is not HHP’ed, but I don’t know about the US. Anyway, HHP isn’t too a negative process and your dogs are still getting all the nutrients possible. And it is by far better than kibble so stick with it, and good on you for taking that step in the first place. I know it can’t be easy when not used to this type of feeding.

    About the pup licking faces…..It is a worry even for me, as I hate when dogs do that. I don’t let my ones lick my face lol. Yet I know that their saliva is somewhat naturally bactericidal from a study showing this in 1990 at the University of Davis in CA. However, I wouldn’t think it would be after they pick up just about anything in their mouths, as it can take some time for any bad bacteria that they might have put in their mouths, for such bacteria to dissolve and break down, I’d imagine.

  • Mary Lou

    I believe Shameless and Shawna have brought up the issue of HHP. I don’t know enough about it’s negative side, but tended to welcome it due to my concerns about our granddaughter being licked by our pup. You must remember that all this raw is fairly new to me. The only non-commercial raw he gets, are his marrow bones. Nature’s Variety uses that method, and I think I read Primal has or will be starting same. The store I frequent sells these three particular raw products. I know I can order others online, which I have done in the past, but I have a thing about expiration dates, packaging, dents in cans, etc. I sent a whole case of food back one time. I want to see everything and pick the best. : )

  • Gordon

    Yeah Mary Lou. I read that they test every batch for Salmonella and E.coli, which is great! I’m not too pleased about the HHP as a dog needs a raw food’s normal bacteria for maintained immunity defences. I’m not claiming to be an expert in the HHP method, and as long as the food is not cooked and remains raw, with all it’s nutrients intact, then such high pressure pasteurization is at least more psychologically reassuring for the buyer.

  • Mary Lou

    Oh, yes, Gordon ~ that is a good website. Did you notice how they test each batch of food and list it under food safety by number? Very impressive. I may be mistaken, but I think I recall Richard mentioning he had met her. I am extremely pleased with the company and their products. That’s why I think we either had an issue with the one bag, or he may have possibly been having an allergic reaction to something totally unrelated. Whatever it may have been, it will definitely not keep me from using their wonderful products.

  • Gordon

    Yeah this is what I was referring to http://www.stellaandchewys.com/story.php

    It shows a pic of Marie Moody, founder, and her dogs.

  • Gordon

    No Mary Lou, I’m talking about Stella and Chewys actual website. Now let me re-look at it to make sure I was referring to the right one, lol…..now since you asked for clarification.

  • Mary Lou

    Ok, Gordon ~ I obviously confused you on food stores. I go to one in St. Petersburg, FL that is family owned. Are you talking about Richard’s store?

  • Gordon

    Yeah I noticed it is family run. I recently checked out their website and read up on that lady’s (The one pictured) background.

    Haha Kenee’. Sounds like what my parents did for their dogs on the farm when they were growing up. That is, throwing scraps and whatever, from the farm harvest including meat, at their dogs way. With out any problems I might add. All their dogs lived beyond 20 years.

  • Mary Lou

    The last three evenings, the pup has had the Dandy Lamb without any problems. I honestly think we got a bag of duck with an issue of some sort ~ does happen. He has had duck treats and Instinct canned duck; so I do not think it was the duck per se. No, Gordon, I have no way to have the bag tested nor would I invest the money to do so. : ) Don’t have the receipt to return it; so I will probably just mention it. It is a family run store like Richard’s. Wonderful people.

  • Kenee’

    Thank you, Gordon. So much to know…..the last time I had a dog was around 30 years ago & he would eat anything tossed his way but bananas and Brussels sprouts. ha

  • Gordon

    “Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients” just means that should you see any ingredients in the ingredients list above that statement, highlighted in red font, then there’s some historical controversy re that ingredient which in some cases is warranted and others, not.

    For example, some dry dog foods rated in this website have a host of red flagged ingredients highlighting various forms of grains. These are rightfully controversial because dogs do not require grains in their diet as they don’t physically digest these well (Not even we do), and they are used in formulas as cheap fillers and cheap carbohydrates with little to no nutritious benefit.

    But there are other examples of red flagged ingredients which are unreasonably controversial, such as garlic which some raw to dry food formulas contain. Garlic in the amounts that dog food manufacturers use, are small and are of antioxidant benefit to the dog’s system, just as it is for us. However, because it is controversial, being that it has been argued for and against, is why Mike, the owner and editor of this site, has red flagged it, and any ingredient which has had some historical controversy over, whether right or wrong. By the way, this is Mike Sagman’s site. He is the one you will see post a comment with a blue background and his picture.

    Since I raised it, garlic in dog food is controversial because garlic is part of the onion genus/lily family and can cause Heinz body anemia, where red blood cells deplete. But this is more so the case with actual onions than garlic because onions have a greater concentration in sulphur compounds from what I understand, and it is this compound that can trigger red blood cells to deplete. Cats are more prone than dogs to be affected, but garlic in the small amount found in dog foods should not cause anemia! And will benefit dogs, antioxidant-wise as well as the possibility and popular belief that its very sulphur compound, may even help ward off fleas from biting the skin and sucking the dog’s blood.

    At any rate, this brand’s freeze dried and raw frozen formulas, have no red flagged ingredients. Which as I said, if you see any, does not necessarily mean that any are bad for your dog, but rather that such have been historically argued for and against, in past and present various sources of literature, and therefore deemed controversial, whether right or wrong.

  • Kenee’

    By the way – what exactly does the controversial item statement mean? There are a few red flecks in the patties…..resembles a red pepper flake. Thx

  • Kenee’

    Thanks, Gordon. I recently inherited the toy Pom from my daughter (she had 3). He wasn’t as picky when he had a little competition. I took him to a nearby store & he seemed to really like the Stella’s.

    I read on here where a girl had to hand feed her pup to get him to eat. This morning, I tried that with some of the previous kibble my pooch wouldn’t eat & he ate about 30+ pieces….one at a time…go figure. I’m beginning to think it’s partly a variety issue. This is all pretty new to me & I will definitely follow up with your suggestions.

    Thanks so much for the input….I’m looking forward to learning a lot from your site. :) Kenee’

  • Gordon

    Kenee’ – Personally, I’m not all that hot over the freeze dried process, and was wondering if there is any reason you don’t buy this brand’s actual raw frozen? That would be advice. Freeze dried is great for areas where same might be prone to power outages, for whatever reason, so it’s good to have stored on hand. Otherwise the raw frozen version (where it hasn’t been freeze dried and you don’t have to rehydrate it) would be a better and more naturally desiring bet for your pooch.

    I’m a massive pro-raw food fan for out pets, and feed my dogs foods based on the BARF model, but confess that I’ve never tried the freeze dried version of any brand. So I know that it is still a raw food, when rehydrated but some loss of palatableness, alteration or freshness may be the case in varying degrees with different boxes/bags of freeze dried products.

  • Kenee’

    Stella’s freeze dried patties initially won the taste test for my picky Pom. I bought the small bag & he went through it just fine. I opted for a large bag (same flavor – chicken) & now he won’t eat it. I’ve prepared it several different ways trying to entice him, but he simply eats around it, or ignores it all together. I’ve found the bag open twice….could the food be stale?…..he’ll eat wet food. Comments anyone? Thanks.

  • Mary Lou

    Thanks, Gordon! He seems fine today, but I gave him Instinct canned this morning. I think he will have canned for dinner, too. : )

  • Gordon

    Perhaps Mary Lou, he has another coincidental health issue, and that if it persists, see the Vet. And maybe stop feeding the current bag and feed whatever your backup food is to see if the problem goes away.

  • Mary Lou

    I always use filtered water ~ so no change there. I don’t think it was tampered with at all. Just crazy! He was a white and pink dog with black eyes and nose! His eyes looked miserable.

  • Gordon

    Did you reconstitute the freeze dried with tap water? Could the product have been tampered with? Could it have been contaminated with some other foreign whatever? Etc etc etc.

    In agree, don’t feed from that bag anymore, and don’t throw it away either. I would contact the supplier you get it from and explain the situation. They should replace the bag free of charge, IMO.

  • Mary Lou

    I opened a new bag of the duck, duck, goose last night. Our pup went into a scratching frenzy. His white skin turned bright pink, and the area around his eyes was red. It was noticable to everyone that saw him. I just can’t imagine why this would have happened since he was doing so well on this food. Any ideas? Suggestions? I don’t think he will be getting anymore from that bag. We had the same lot date before this one; so I don’t think an ingredient change is an issue. I’m wondering if he has reached his duck limit. : )

  • Mel

    Greetings all!
    Back to cats, a little bit, if I may… :)
    I have an all-raw household for about 10 years now. I switched two cats over when they were 11, until they died at 20, and have had 3 (now 2) raw dogs, and 2 new kitties that came to my house raw-fed. One of them died in Jan. of CRF (she was never bigger than 5 lbs. at 5 years old), and I’ve recently gotten a new kitty companion for my 3-year old male. It’s been a loooong-time since I switched a kitty to raw. She previously was fed free-access kibble for constant grazing, and an occasional glop of canned Fancy Feast. At my house, she not interested in ANY food, raw, canned, organic, the crappy commercial she came with — nothing, (but she demonstrates hunger) — with one exception: she loves the dogs’ dehydrated 100% pure chicken and duck breast treats. So, I went to the store and got a bag of chicken strips that are is infused with some taurine, and cut that and some of the duck-breast strips into little bite-sized squares. I then put that into a jar and put in a little spoonful of bonemeal and shake it up until every piece is well-coated. It pours into her dish like kibble, and she actually eats a full meal’s worth. Tomorrow I’m adding some crumbles of dried chicken liver. She still won’t touch anything else I put down for her, but at least her intake is mostly pure meat protein, with some liver (offal), a coating of calcium, and taurine; AND she’s eating at fixed, regular intervals, 2-3 times per day.

    My question: Is this a balanced enough diet to sustain her until I can start to switch her to raw? I just want to keep her on a solid routine for a while, and then I think I can use (the Malamute-suggested) freeze-drying, and then freezing, and then not-so-frozen to slowly switch her over. I just want to be sure she’s getting decent nutrition in the meantime.

    Thanks for any knowledge or advice!

  • Kathy

    My dog (a yorkie) would not eat her food until she was starving. She was really looking too thin. The store I went to was giving samples of Stella & Chewy’s, She loves it. Finally she eats her meals on time. She also filled out a little more. I know S&C is expensive but it truely is worth it. My yorkie eats the freezed dried food dry. She doen’t like it wet. We also give her freezed dried treats. She really looks healthy now. Thanks Stella & Chewy’s

  • Debbie

    I have a terrier mutt pup (about 1 year old) and a chi mix (maybe 8 yo?) and both of them love Stella and Chewy’s. While the chi will eat anything, the pup has been a tough case because she gets an upset stomach if she goes a long time without eating (or so the pattern seems to be). Once her stomach gets upset (noticeable rumbling in her tummy—that hungry, “squeaky” sound, for lack of a better word) she doesn’t want to eat anything but grass, even though as soon as she eats the rumbling stops and we all go on with our day.

    Anyway, long story short, the pup would eat up the freeze dried raw with some water mixed in when she wouldn’t eat the normal kibble (Before Grain). She also loved raw food, but it’s really expensive between the two dogs and I hardly plan my own meals, so thawing was a pain. Right now I use S&C treats (Carnivore Crunch) as a topper for the dry and feed Ziwi Peak at night (which they love). I really like the convenience of S&C freeze dried, but it is expensive, so for the moment I’m just topping with the treats.

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Sandi – Re Stella & Chewy’s, on another thread you wrote “Yes that is a good brand.”
    You also wrote ““Know Your Manufacturer, Know Your Ingredients” should be DFA’s motto.”
    Do you know the source of all ingredients for Stella & Chewy’s products?

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Good analogy Richard! – “… relying on AAFCO to guide you regarding your dogs nutrition is like relying on the FDA to guide you in your own nutritional needs. While it’s better than nothing, in my opinion it is more about pacifying the masses.”

  • http://brotherscomplete.com Richard Darlington

    JJ – I agree with Shameless that using freeze dried can be a good way to make the transition to raw…That she likes dried Liver is a good sign. Brothers has a coating of freeze fried liver so our dogs have no problem going from raw in the morning to Brothers at night…guess the taste is similar enough. I’ll send your samples off today.

    Shameless – I only meant that I hadn’t actually done any serious research into how the components (muscle meat, organ meat, cartilage, bone, etc.) of Stella and Chewys were balanced in the final product. As far as AAFCO is concerned it is a very crude guide, at best, that is more about minimums and maximums than any kind of optimal balance between nutrients or nutrient pairs (ie. Calcium to Magnesium, or Calcium to Phosphorus, or Magnesium to Calcium to name a few) For instance if Magnesium is deficient compared to Calcium then it can cause the Calcium to precipitate out of solution contributing to Calcium deposits in the urinary tract and gallbladder (stones). So while it’s great to feed your dog Calcium it is actually more important that they get an appropriate amount of Magnesium to prevent the animal from developing stones, among other things. So BALANCE is everything and unfortunately AAFCO does not even address this.

    My personal opinion is that relying on AAFCO to guide you regarding your dogs nutrition is like relying on the FDA to guide you in your own nutritional needs. While it’s better than nothing, in my opinion it is more about pacifying the masses. You can read a detailed paper about AAFCO, how it was formed, who runs it, and how it’s been described as “the fox guarding the henhouse” at: http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/784/Patrick06.html

    Boris – Freeze dried simply means raw food that has had the moisture removed from it. When reconstituted with moisture it retains most of the food value of raw food. Be careful with garlic in your dog. While it is good for humans (unless you have not had a good dose of it yourself and are going to kiss the garlic eater or talk in close proximity to them..LOL) it is recommended that it be used in small doses with dogs.

  • boris

    what freeze dried mean? this not raw. raw pig and chicken and garlic the best for dog. freeze dried not raw?

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Richard – Just curious, since Stella & Chewy’s meets AAFCO nutrient profiles, what do you mean by “I’m not sure about how balanced it is”?

    JJ – Something just occurred to me that might work for your malamute. Raw organs. Since she likes freeze-dried liver, maybe she would get excited over raw liver, raw kidney, raw heart. [Organs should be provided in moderation]
    Otherwise, your plan sounds like a good one, to transition from freeze-dried raw to frozen raw to fresh raw.

  • J.J.

    Richard -
    As always, thank you for the information. I’m not considering Stella & Chewy’s for long term or primary use. I’m trying to introduce raw meaty bones & raw food to my dogs, but I’m having a hard time with my malamute mix, as you may have read under the “dry dog food and the myth of cleaner teeth” thread. She’s very picky & I can’t really get her to try much of anything raw or raw meaty bones. At first I thought it was because she’s a hoarder & she just wanted to save everything, but even when she’s really hungry (or so I think she should be) she just kind of sniffs & that’s about it. I’ve tried chicken wings, lamb chop bones, marrow bones, raw lamb, nature’s variety beef formula & bison formula (nature’s variety is the only frozen raw food I have in my area). She loves the freeze dried liver training treats and some freeze dried beef treats we got, so I’ve been thinking if I try some freeze dried raw may be I can transition her slowly to frozen raw or fresh raw. I’m thinking baby steps here since she’s been so resistant. I did get her to lick some of the marrow out of a bone yesterday, which was a small victory, but otherwise she’s just not into it.

  • http://Brotherscomplete.com Richard Darlington

    Jj
    Stella and Chewys is fairly good stuff. We sell a reasonable amount of it and our customers like it. It is good for the dog also and has many attributes of raw.

    A few years back I met the woman who started it – her husband is along for the ride – she’s the energy and fuel that makes that company go. She found a lot of money somewhere and she built herself a nice factory to make her own freeze dried product. It’s expensive but good if you need light weight or long term storage during hurricanes or trips to the moon. it’s great for feeding raw without the normal hassle but I’m not sure about how balanced it is so it so that should be checked. I can certainly recommend it and have never had any complaints about it.

    I can recommend it but let’s ask Shameless to be sure.

  • J.J.

    When I checked out the home page “recent comments” I was excited to see a conversation about Stella & Chewy’s because I’m considering adding it to my rotation. All those comments I was interested in reading turned out to be about cats, bummer for me. Not that I’m discouraging your conversation about cats, I like cats, I just don’t have any. I used to though, fed her Iams, hope it’s better quality than their dog food, but who knows. For those of you who have cats, I think the cat food advisor will be really cool. Anybody want to share their thoughts on Stella & Chewy’s?

  • SueW

    Meagan, cats can be very finicky about texture as well as flavor of foods. My oldest cat (12-1/2) has recently become exceedingly picky about chunky wet food due to his losing several teeth to FORL’s. I keep a small, cheap blade coffee grinder near their feeding area and grind his portion up a bit and it seems to be working. Another brand I buy periodically is Natural Planet Organics canned cat food. It is very smooth and creamy, almost pudding-like in texture. It comes in 2 flavors, turkey and chicken. As you may have guessed, my old guy prefers this type more than my other 2 cats who have all of their teeth. It’s what I feed him post oral surgery.

  • SueW

    My lab is pickier about his food than my 3 cats combined. He is 6 years old and only in the past few months have I been able to feed him anything with fish in it. Although he has always liked tuna.

  • SueW

    Gordon, yes Whiskas is sold here in the US. It is sold in supermarkets and big discount stores like Target and WalMart. Yeah, I think most of us experienced a deep learning curve with our first pets. My first cat grew up on kitten chow and then Friskies dry kibble with some canned 9 Lives. I cringe now just thinking about it but thankfully have learned about animal nutrition along the way so my current and future pets will reap the rewards of that knowlege.

  • Gordon

    Mike – You may already be aware of Dr. Lisa Pierson and her info on cats, but if not, and when you do get to creating the catfoodadvisor site, I highly recommend you have a read of the wealth of information shown in her website at http://www.catinfo.org/.

  • Gordon

    Dr. Lisa Pierson talks about the reasons behind why canned food is that much better than kibble for cats, and it is so simplistic as to why! Anyway, rather than me quote what she has to say, her website is http://www.catinfo.org/.

    But just to use an example, one of the most important reasons is what we already know….and that is kibble can not be avoided with out the inclusion of higher carbs thanks to the fact that starchy same is required as a binder to make such kibble. And so because cats require an even lower carb level than dogs, it makes the fact that canned cat food is that much better than cat kibble because of the carb avoidance capability in producing processed canned cat foods. Obviously, the same goes with the fact that commercial raw would also be ideal method for feeding cats, but as I stated earlier, they are harder to get in eating commercial raw. However, like Dr. Karen Becker’s advice, cats can be easier to transition to a raw diet through canned a diet.

  • Gordon

    Oh I forgot. That link is http://www.catnutrition.org/

  • Gordon

    You know what’s funny? Feline nutrition requirements pretty much mirrors the same as that of dogs, except the fact they they require an even greater carnivorous diet. Something of the lines of 90 to 95% meats to 5 to 10% carbs if at all. Yet cats are harder to get in eating commercial raw that’s formulated with their biologically balanced and appropriate carnivorous diet.

    Have a read through the following website that, the author, who’s just like you and I, and talks about her experience about cat nutrition and her negative experiences with brainwashed Vets, just like it mostly is for Vets making conventional diet recommendations, thanks to the very same mainstream pet food industry. The author also refers to, with positivity, a Dr. Dr. Lisa Pierson and her website on cats. It was an interesting read!

  • Meagan

    Under Nutro natural Choice thread from Melissa April 26.
    “Meagan-

    Just noticed your ? about cat food. Yes, cats SHOULD have canned food, and it should be the pate style. There was a study(I am sure you can google it ) that showed that the pate style helps prevent kidney issues in cats, or something to that effect. I have not owned cats in years and can not speak further about the study as I do not recall the finer points of it.”

  • Meagan

    Gordon-We sure do have the Whiskas “grocery store brand” lol.
    SueW-I am having the hardest time getting Hobo to eat his wet. At first I was giving him a little dry about 1/4 cup in the morning and then half a can at night (so I was not wasting a bunch, since he is not taking to it.) Now I feed the wet in the morning and give a little dry at night. Still not eating the wet like I thought he would.
    I worked at the shelter where I got him so i know for a fact he USED to eat wet food and dry. He eats Earthborn Wild Sea Catch and I have been trying different brands of wet, so far nothing has really grabbed him. Any ADVICE! Thank You
    Also Melissa, another great commentator on this site, had mentioned she read cats should get Pate style wet food to lessen the occurence of urinary issues, I think stones? however I can not find this by googling it, jw if you know anything about this?

  • Gordon

    SueW – I love cats too (I’m an all animal lover!), and used to have them as pets. I currently own 2 dogs and 2 exotic South American parrots, so I can’t fit another pet in my situation at the moment. I am big on Ornithology as well.

    The time that I owned cats (quite some time ago), I fed them canned food at the time. Mainly the Whiskas variety, and at that stage I never had owned dogs. I also never bothered to learn up on appropriate feline nutrition and just swallowed the TV ads re Whiskas. They had some great colourful marketing. But what I remember about cats is that they are somewhat more fastidious in foods they’re presented with. Not much unlike some small breeds of dogs as well that almost seem to share the same attitudinal characteristics as cats when it comes to foods. Whiskas is a very old supermarket brand and I don’t know if yous have that brand in the US?

  • SueW

    Mike, can’t wait the the catfoodadvisor to be up and running!

  • SueW

    I am a little late to this conversation about the cat food. But I wanted to add something since I do own 3 cats as well as 1 big lab.
    Meagan, I feed my cats dry food, (Earthborn Primitive Feline), during the day and canned wet food at nite, (Weruva). Some days they eat more dry food, some days not but they still go to the bowls if they are hungry and know that “dinner” is still hours away. I only put a small amount of kibble in the bowls. Cats need more moisture in their diets, especially as they age so I want to make the wet meal the largest one of the day.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Stephanie… I’m sure there are other foods that are marketed as freeze-dried patties (like maybe Nature’s Variety). Unfortunately, I cannot provide customized product recommendations for each reader. For more help, please check back for a possible response from one of our other readers. Wish I could be more help.

  • Stephanie

    Hi Mike!
    This site has been so helpful, although I’m hoping you have some recommendations for me. My 7 year old adopted bichon poodle Morty is a very very very picky eater. I adopted him a year ago and consulted this site to determine the best foods for him. He seemed to be settled on the Before Grain (canned) for a while and then when he got tired of that, I introduced him to Stella & Chewy’s dehydrated. He was okay with that for a while even though I had to switch up the flavors for him every month or so, but now he’s done with this and completely turns away from Honest Kitchen, Sojos, Primal, even S&C’s frozen. Do you have any recommendations for me? Are there any similar dried-patty like foods that I haven’t tried?

    Thanks so much!
    Stephanie

  • Gordon

    Actually “Ryo”, your cats aren’t weird. I’m not as knowledgeable on feline behaviour like I am with canine behaviour (At least I think so), because I hear a lot of domestic cats are way more fastidious than domestic dogs. As I said above, they won’t touch decaying, rotting, and foul smelling foods, unlike dogs, and because cats are even more (in a way) primally instinctive than dogs, as they tend to prefer eating raw when they actually make their own live kill.
    Cats are instinctively more the “hunter” (but known to scavenge) and dogs are instinctively more the “scavenger” (and are also hunters more so when in packs).

    Anyway, my point is, I tend to believe that because cats prefer to eat prey (raw) from what they’ve killed, as opposed to be given by us, trimmed and pre-cut raw meats, despite the fact that same might be as fresh as a “Mentos” for a lack of a better analogy. That may also explain why cats are known to wonder kilometres from their domestic home, and do all their residential fauna damage at nights (And sleep mostly during the day time). In my area, I notice a lot of dead mostly birds on the ground near trees etc at parks and around street housing, that look like they’ve been half eaten to all eaten with just feathers remaining and lying around.

    But some cats are kept indoors all the time and for those, it would even be harder to get them to eat raw from their bowls.

  • Meagan

    I agree Gordon, that it may not work with the cat. Most likely I will be going all wet for him….then who knows maybe raw some day.

  • “Ryo”

    Oh yeah, Gordon, I /tried/ doing the prey model raw diet, which is 100% meat, organ, and bone as cats lack the enzyme needed to break down carbohydrates. I brought some chicken drumettes from the market, and I fed them to the cats the next day. They wouldn’t touch it. Haha, my cats are weird. However, until they start selling S&C (my friend who works at a pet nutrition center is ordering some for me) , I’m doing nearly carb-free cat foods like BFF, Weruva, Dave’s, BG, and Instinct. They actually like it (!) so I think I’m off to a good start.

  • “Ryo”

    All right, Mike! I can’t wait! :D

  • http://www.drianbillinghurst.com Gordon

    I know your above considered feeding method, Meagan, would work for a dog, but I’m unsure about it working for most cats. I guess you can try and see. If it didn’t work out, I’d say your cat would probably be trying to skip the kibble meal time and hang out for the canned food meal time. But cats, just like dogs have unique personalities, feeding preferences and satiety levels.

  • Meagan

    I am going to be transitioning my cat from dry to a wet food diet. Still have not decided if I want to do dry in the morning and wet in the evening or vice versa. Or all wet.

  • http://www.drianbillinghurst.com Gordon

    Yeah, the catfoodadvisor.com will be a welcome edition for many cat owners. I don’t own any cats myself, but used to. They’re even more carnivorously bias and are termed by most experts as “obligate carnivores”. I don’t profess to know much about cat foods as I can’t even remember what I fed my past cats (I think I fed them canned Wiskas) but I do know that Dr. Ian Billinghurst’s BARF formulas for cats contain 90 to 95% meats and 5 to 10% fruits and veggies. That’s about 10% less such carbs than for his BARF for dog’s formulas.

    Also, cats usually only eat fresh foods and unlike dogs, don’t usually eat decaying foods like the dog can and does. Plus cats are even more fastidious and if they’re weened on only dry cat kibble, unlike most dogs they’ll not have the same natural desire to eat raw foods. In this case, cats who are used to kibble only can be transitioned slowly to raw, for owners who may want to do that, by way of first transitioning those cats from kibble to canned/wet food, before then transitioning those cats from canned to raw. This transitioning method has also been suggested by Dr. Karen Becker.

  • Meagan

    Can’t wait for that site Mike!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Ryo… Yes. Cat Food Advisor is already in my plans. The website is already hosted on my server at CatFoodAdvisor.com. However, there’s been no content uploaded to it just yet. More software is under development (including the “dashboard” I had built for The Dog Food Advisor). However, it could be late this year or early 2012 before I have the time to begin this huge project. I’ll almost certainly be needing some staff to actually help me create the hundreds of pages and reviews necessary to get it launched properly.

  • “Ryo”

    Hey Mike… are you thinking about doing a site like this for cats? I have three cats and they are currently on Dave’s/BFF/Instinct canned and EVO kibble. I’m trying to get them off kibble and onto a raw formula. They refused to eat Blue Ridge Beef, NV Instinct, and Primal raw formulas and THK and ZiwiPeak dehydrated. I got a sample of Stella & Chewy’s Chicken/Salmon formula for the cats, and they LOVED it. It looks like a quality food with no red-flag ingredients, but I’ve been unable to locate a review on it. Soooo… is there a CatFoodAdvisor or a site like it? I recent’y switched my dogs to the PMR diet and I use your site primarily to gather information on commercial foods. I only really /need/ a site like this for cats, as they refused PMR. Thank you! :)
    ~Ryo

  • mary

    I have done it all with my English Springer, corgi/daschund and poodle. age 13, 6 and 8. I started with Spots chicken stew from book. ( i made it myself…a great cleanser…) I saw some improvement since my springer couldn’t walk without being massaged and manual movement exercise, heating pads and then the aspirin. I couldn’t get myself to keep that up. So now I go to the stores and find as much meat I can where the date is expired and they sell for 1,2 or more dollars off. I use alot of beef and pork. the beef is anything from ground CHUCK to steak, pork ribs, pork chops,pork neck bones(heated the eaten by chewing bones…
    alot of sardines with bones and skin in water…salmon from can. I do not use alot of bone so I use eggshell for calcium. I always add Vit A in carrot, pumpkin or squash form. Carrot being the highest with betecartone(antioxident). I add celery. then I will add a green from raw lettuces to beans, peas etc..
    No More Grains tried and tried but they do not do good with even the highest quality of grains (if tolerated use millet, quinoua, bulgar, rolled oats.) I use http://www.dogaware.com
    for help. try it ! My springer will walk me everyday at a gentle pace (no hurry!) she loves to swim. Her attention spam has gone from sleeping all the time to noticing everything! No more massages to move just for fun! It is wonderful not to see her debilitate rather looking and acting younger. The other two, no more watery eyes, shedding and they love to listen and behave. No Joke.
    please research and go to dogaware.com
    thanks for reading, good luck

  • Greg Lucas

    No it does not say that on the package. You’re rewording things and misinterpreting: I emailed Stella and Chewy’s and asked them if Stella and Chewy’s Freeze dried raw can be the main diet for dogs over thirty pounds. I’ve copied and pasted in the response below:

    Good afternoon,

    Thank you for your interest in Stella & Chewy’s. All Stella & Chewy’s dinners can be fed to dogs of all life stages and all sizes. The freeze-dried tends to be more expensive to feed to larger dogs, but it is possible to do so. With any size dog, we do recommend rehydrating if you feed it as a complete diet. We do also have the large, frozen patties which tend to be more cost effective for larger dogs.

    Please feel free to let me know if you have any further questions.

    Have a great day,

    Emily Thompson

    Customer Service/Sales Support

  • Tracey

    To Shamlessrawfoodie,
    I just purchased the Lamb freeze dried Stella & Chewy’s and it specifically states on the back of the package should not be main food source for dogs over 30 lbs. Read the back of the package. So Joanne information is correct.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Bev… Although no one (especially this website) can assure you any food will protect your dog from developing pancreatitis, the subject of high protein is surely a subject of controversy. To learn more about this subject, please visit our FAQ page and look for the topic, “Dog Food Protein”. Be sure to follow the links you’ll find there, too.

  • Bev Thomas

    I am concerned about Stella & Chewy Freeze-Dried Dinners
    being to high in protein and fat with not much fiber or vegetables.

    Why is the that? Is it safe/healthy or can it cause pancreas attacks from to much fat or cause other health problems ?

    Would it be healthy if I added a little pumpkin to it?

  • Greg Lucas

    To Jessica D. — You can get the Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw for a good price online from doggiefood.com

    I’ve been buying from them for almost 2 years. Everything I get from them is fresh and for a good price.

  • Greg Lucas

    Joanne, Stella and Chewy’s can be the sole diet for large dogs. I’ve written email to the company to find out + it’s on their feeding guide calculator like the other poster mentioned . I think that your confusion is because on the bag it says that for dogs over 30 pounds you can add it to their kibble. But that’s not the only use of the food for larger dogs. The food is expensive and simply is not practical for most people to afford as the sole food for large dogs. But if you can afford it, then yeah, it could be the sole diet. You’d want to be sure to feed a wide variety of the Stella and Chewy’s and not just one protein source if you do that. It’s a good idea to balance fowl (chicken and duck) with the ruminant meets (beef and lamb) because they have different types of fats.

    I’m now feeding Stella and Chewy’s for about a third of my German Shepherd’s diet. The other 2/3 is a fresh meat (well researched) homemade diet with a wonderful powder supplement called Wysong Call of the Wild. The diet has been great for my dog. He is the most physicaly fit dog I’ve ever seen or known. He is 7 1/2 years old and we run 60 or 70 miles per week and his physique is perfect. The fresh meat diet, in additon to the Call of the Wild supplement, includes sardines, eggs, veggies, blueberries, ground almonds — lots of good stuff.

    Between the Stella and Chewy’s and the fresh food meals with the Wysong call of the Wild, I feel like my dog is getting nearly optimal nutrition.

  • Gordon

    Hmmm, this looks as though it’s a great dog food. Not available down under.

  • ShamelessRawFoodie

    Joanne – It seems your petfood store gave you wrong information. What you wrote sounded very bizarre, so I reviewed the S&C website, and didn’t find anything that mentioned the food not being recommended as the sole diet for dogs over 30#. Doesn’t even make sense to me that they would market their food with such limitations. Maybe your petfood store was trying to push another brand? Look at the S&C feeding calculator at this link:
    http://www.stellaandchewys.com/feeding_guide.aspx
    I entered my dog’s weight as 80# and it provided the calculation. No alerts or red flags.
    This appears to be a superb food, with an abundance of organic ingredients.

  • Joanne

    I called a petfood store to ask the prices of S & C’s freeze dried raw (am considering switching from kibble). They said, for dogs greater than 30#, the manufacturer’s instructions recommends that this food should be used only as a topper/mixer. In other words, it can’t be the only food they consume or the sole source of their diet (if the dog is > 30#) .

  • Jessica D.

    Does anybody have a favorite online retailer they buy their freeze dried raw from? I don’t think they sell this or K9 Natural freeze dried near me and I am looking for a good travel option. I think the only thing I have seen is Ziwipeak, may end up going that route if I can’t find a good place to get this stuff. Any ideas?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Andy… Try topping your dog’s food with a canned product. Unfortunately, I cannot provide customized product recommendations for each reader. For more information, please check out my reviews and visit our FAQ page. Look for the topic, “Help Me Choose a Dog Food”. Or check back for a possible response from one of our other readers. Wish I could be more help.

  • ANDY

    HAVE A GERMAN SHEPHERD- 10 MOS. GOING THRU TEENAGE PHASE- TRYING TO PUT WEIGHT ON HER FOR SHOW. ANY SUGGESTIONS-FEEDING SOME RAW-NUTRISCOA,YOGURT, OCC- HARD EGG, SOME DAYS SHE EATS OTHER DAYS WALKS AWAY

  • chrisann

    I have been feeding my 10 lb Maltese Mix Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried patties for a while. I ALWAYS wash her bowls with hot soap and water as well. She is the most taken care of dog in the universe. 3 days ago, we did our normal routine, she ate stella and chewy’s at 10 am and seemed fine all day, then she got sick in the middle of the night, so much so we had to go to the emergency vet at 4 am. She was shaking, crying, moaning, it was the worst experience of my life. It’s now been 2 days and she is barely better. She is on 2 antibiotics, an antacid and pain medication. She is not hungry, so getting her to take her pills is a nightmare. She is beyond sick, is completely sad and I am doing the best I can to make her feel comfortable but she is in pain. The vet is positive it was the food. I will no longer give my dog raw food. This has been the worst experience and she is not even out of the woods yet.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Bethb… Maybe he’s intolerant to beef? In any case, try another food. Since each dog responds to a particular food in its own unique way, it would be impossible for me to assure you feeding any specific dog food would satisfy your dog’s digestive system. Unfortunately, choosing the right dog food still involves some trial and error. Wish I could be more help.

  • http://www.bethbellsellshomes.com Bethb

    Hi Mike,
    Just stumbled onto your site, very helful and reassuring to see what others are feeding their puppy-kids and ratings for a variety of foods.
    My yorkie (7 yrs old;5 lbs.) has been eating Stella and chewy’s freeze dried chicken dinner for about a month. I’ve tried to add the beef choice as well, but if he has more than a quarter patty mixed with the chicken; he gets really soft almost diarrhea stool. Any thoughts on why this would be?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Andrea… It depend on what you mean by “safe”. From a nutritional standpoint, and just for a brief time, I cannot imagine a safety issue. But long term feeding of any food, especially if it’s highly processed (like kibble), can be a different story. If you have any doubts about your decision, you’ll need to contact the manufacturers.

  • Andrea

    Hi, I have been feeding my dog Halo Spot’s Stew and I just bought a bag of the Stella and Chewy’s Dandy Lamb Freeze-Dried Dinner. Is it safe to mix the “cooked” kibble with the Raw patties? I’m not planning on replacing Halo, but to add some variety to his meals and i thought I would give the patties a try. Just want to make sure his digestive system will be okay if I feed him both cooked and raw.
    Thank you!
    =)

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Judi… Please see our FAQ page. Look for the topic, “Dog Food Protein”. Hope this helps.

  • Judi

    I have been feeding my dog Stella and Chewy’s chicken dog food and he is pooping bullets (very hard bullet shaped poo). Is this normal? Is the protein too high?

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Pauline… I see no problem with mixing different foods. As long as they’re both meet AAFCO guidelines for “complete and balanced”.

  • paulina

    Hello Mike,

    So i just started my two dogs on stella and chewys and I am wondering if it would be okay to supplement it with something else.. say a kibble or canned or something. I just find it too expensive to feed alone.. what is your opinion on that? my dogs have sensitive skin so i guess a grain free food would be best. thank you!!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Monika… You have asked an excellent question but one almost impossible to answer with simplicity. Although some may disagree, I always like to see variation in a dog’s diet. However, mixing makes it nearly impossible to manage your dog’s caloric intake and know for certain his meals contain all the nutrients and in the correct proportions. If you were to really pay attention to offering different protein sources and other ingredients, you’d probably be feeding your pet a naturally healthy menu. But without lots of work, there’s no way to know for sure. You may wish to contact the raw food manufacturer for their guidance, too. Sorry I can’t be more help.

  • Monika

    Hello, I’m starting my dog on a raw diet, Stella & Chewy’s duck duck goose… the large frozen patty with a little freeze dried on top for texture. My dog was very sick and in the hospital and has been on anti-biotics for a week now and he’s totally turned off to his old food: 1/3 cup Orijen kibble + 1/3 cup cooked chicken + 1/3 cup cooked carrots & green beans. He was eating this for a long while, but now refuses to eat the kibble, although he still loves the cooked chicken on its own. I’m a little confused about transitioning & if I can mix cooked food and raw food together.

    Yesterday we tried the Primal Starter Pack, which he didn’t like at all. Today for breakfast I gave him some Stella & Chewys freeze dried duck duck goose patties, which he seemed to like. Now I’m giving him his old cooked chicken, veggies meal, but with 1 freeze dried patty on top for vitamins.

    Is it OK to mix freeze dried food in with the chicken & vegetables? Should I toggle meals (1 old, 1 new) for a few days until I see if he likes it, or until he transitions? When eating the frozen patties, should I add veggies to it, or is just the patty OK?

    Thank you very much!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Dianna… It’s no secret, we shamelessly favor dog foods rich in meat protein. Although (for many) high protein dog foods can be a controversial issue, more recent studies have confirmed the rapid growth which causes skeletal disorders (especially in large breed dogs) is now more specifically linked to the practice of overfeeding. In other words, feeding too many calories (rather than too much protein) is the leading cause of hip dysplasia.

    However, high meat protein content is almost always associated with more fat (and thus higher calories). Although I’m not a veterinarian, I still feel comfortable in recommending you avoid overfeeding Evanger’s or Fromm (or any food) rather than worrying about its higher protein content. For a better understanding of this issue, you may wish to read my article about “Best Puppy Foods“. Of course, be sure your vet agrees. Hope this helps.

  • Dianna

    I have met many show people in the Chihuahua breed that feed raw to their dogs and even though I use very highly rated dry kibble (Evanger’s & Fromm) I was thinking of making the switch. Is there too much protein in the raw for a small dog such as a Chihuahua? Liver shunts is a huge fear of mine.

  • Jonathan

    To Tamara; For most dogs, switching proteins within the same brand of food does not tend to cause stomach upset. The meat is the easy part for the dog to handle. It’s the carb(s) that the foods are made with that cause the more difficult transition so if you switch from, say, Blue Buffalo Chicken and Rice to Blue Lamb and rice, no big deal. The ingredients, other than the meat, are very similar and from the same source. It’s when you go from Blue to Wellness or Nutro, etc, that you have to be carefull. They have different amounts of and quality of grains and other carbs. Remember, if a dog were left to his own devices, he wouold hunt and kill or scavenge from different animals every day. and he’d probably never stop to chew on a wheat straw or a corn cobb.

  • Greg L

    I have had quite a bit of variety in my dog’s diet for a few years. I’ve nevr used less than three different proteins on a day to bases with him. It never has caused him any discomfort, diarhea, or vomiting , or any problems at all. I have been using all 4 proteins of the Stella and Chewy’s since my last post and had zero problems + I feed other things: baked salmon with bison and egg shells, Instinct canned lamb, cooked eggs, dogswell treats, raw marrow and knuckle bones of various animals etc. His poop is perfectly normal.

    I always break in a new food slowly by just feeding it in very small amounts the first few times. After that he has had a few meals of it, it can be thrown in with anything else.

    I’m going to try some Tripett next to see if he likes it, and I bought a small bag of Evo Herrign and Salmon today. As much as I would love to keep it simple and just do all four of the Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried raw, I simply cannot afford it. He is a 70 pound dog and extraordinarily active. It costs over $300 per month to just do the Stella’s only diet, so while I feed him all the Stella’s that I can, I have to give him other foods, too.

  • Tamara

    I have heard that if you change the proteins in your dogs diet that it can cause intestional discomfort such as diarhea and sometimes vomiting. Therefore, I personally would not do that simply because I do not want to cause my dog any discomfort. However I have heard that if you stay with the same protein you can swicth form brand to brand just making sure the ingredients are what your dog can tolerate.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Greg… Great question. And controversial, too. Rotation feeding can mean either within the same brand or between different brands. However, pets generally tolerate internal brand rotation more predictably than external rotation.

    As long as your dog can tolerate the process, you should feel comfortable rotating proteins within the Stella and Chewy’s line.

    By the way, your dog will love you for it.

  • Greg Lucas

    By a diet rotation do you mean using all four proteins of the Stella and Chewy’s or did you mean using different brands and food forms? Or is either way good?

    I am trying to decide if I am better off using all four protein sources of the Stella and Chewy’s as my dog’s only diet, thus making it a completely raw diet, or if I would be better off doing the Stella and Chewy’s as the morning feed and using the Nature’s Variety canned Instinct as the evening feed, thus having a 50/50 raw to cooked food diet. I’ve been doing the 50/50 thing for the past few weeks.

    I want what is best for my dog.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Greg… According to the company, Stella and Chewy’s Freeze Dried is rated “complete and balanced” and has been designed for “all life stages”. However, even though you can feed this food as a primary diet, we still prefer a diet rotation designed to maximize the chance to provide a broad based diet.

  • Greg Lucas

    The Natural Balance Rolls are too high in sugar. Sugar is the second ingrediant. The Natural Balance rolls also contain wheat. Sugar causes dental problems and cancer in dogs, and other problems. Wheat is a major cause of allergies. Don’t use the Natural Balance rolls even for treats.

    Can Stella and Chewy’s freeze dried be used as the mian diet? While Nature’s Variety says their freeze dreid should only be used as a suplement, it says on the Stella and Chewy’s that it is complete and balanced and I’ve never heard or read anything to the contrary. I my opinion if you add water to it, then it’s fine as the main food. You can email them and ask them that if you’d like. They respond to email promptly.

    But I have an extremely active Germen Sheperd (we run 60 miles per week) and it is not practical financially to use freeze dreid raw as the only food because of price. (He won’t eat the frozen patties of any brand.) So I give him one full meal per day of the freeze dried raw (about 8 pieces) , one cup of Orijen Six Fresh Fish kibble (Pet Food of the year for dry foods by the Glycemic Reasearch Institute in Washington D.C.) and one 13.2 oz can of Nature’s Variety Instinct lamb. In other words I use the Stella and Chewy’s Freeze dried raw for 1/3 of his overall diet. And my dog gets the best there is of each food form — raw, canned and kibble — and it’s all grain free. (And I brush his teeth every day too.)

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com Mike Sagman

    Hi Colette… Natural Balance Lamb Rolls meet AAFCO nutritional profiles for adult maintenance. So, technically speaking, it’s OK to feed this as a “complete and balanced” dog food.

    However, at just 18% protein and 10% fat (dry matter basis), Natural Balance Dog Food Rolls appear to be unusually low in total meat content.

    If you’re going to mix the two together, the high meat protein content of the Stella and Chewy’s should help offset the low meat content of the NB dog food rolls. Hope this helps.

  • colette pycha

    Very helpful. I currently use Stella and Cheweys and my 10mo old havanese puppy seems to like it better than any other I’ve tried EXCEPT Natural Balance lamb log. I have received mixed opinions re: this food and want only what’s best for her–I’ve been told it is to be used as a treat only by 2 people and a food by another. Can you comment? Do you have a rating for this food? Should I mix with Stellas or only use as a treat?

    Thank you—colette