Carna4 Dog Food (Dry)

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Rating: ★★★★☆

Carna4 Dog Food receives the Advisor’s above-average rating of 4 stars.

The Carna4 Dog Food product line includes one kibble, claimed to meet AAFCO nutrient profiles for all life stages.

Carna4 All Life Stages Chicken

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 27% | Fat = 17% | Carbs = 49%

Ingredients: Fresh chicken, chicken liver, eggs, certified organic sprouted barley seed, wild salmon, whole vegetables (peas, sweet potatoes, carrots, spinach, garlic), amaranth, whole brown rice, certified organic sprouted green lentils, potato starch, certified organic sprouted flaxseed, certified organic sprouted red lentils, whole apples, sea salt, kelp, Yucca schidigera, rosemary and parsley

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 5.6%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
MethodProteinFatCarbs
Guaranteed Analysis24%15%NA
Dry Matter Basis27%17%49%
Calorie Weighted Basis23%35%42%

The first ingredient in this dog food is chicken. Although it is a quality item, raw chicken contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is chicken liver. This is an organ meat sourced from a named animal. So long as it’s not over-weighted in a dog food, chicken liver is a beneficial component.

The third ingredient lists eggs. Eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The fourth ingredient lists barley sprouts. Unlike seeds, sprouted grains are rich in digestible energy, vitamins, amino acids, proteins, and phytochemicals. And many of the minerals they contain can be naturally chelated.

What’s more, sprouted seeds can be expected to have a lower glycemic index than their refined grain counterparts.

The fifth ingredient is salmon. Salmon is a fatty marine and freshwater fish not only high in protein but also omega 3 fatty acids, essential oils needed by every dog to sustain life.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With three notable exceptions

First, the company claims their sprouted seed ingredients contain “high levels of naturally-occurring, live probiotics”. Probiotics are known to enhance a dog’s digestive and immune functions.

Next, garlic can be a controversial item. Although the majority of experts favor the ingredient for its numerous health benefits, garlic (in rare cases) has been linked to Heinz body anemia in dogs.1

However, the limited professional literature we surveyed provided no definitive warnings regarding the use of garlic, especially in small amounts (as it is here).

And lastly, these same seeds sprouts also contain inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

Carna4 Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Carna4 Dog Food looks to be an above-average kibble.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 27%, a fat level of 17% and estimated carbohydrates of about 49%.

Average protein. Average fat. And average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Free of any plant-based protein boosters, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

In addition, we commend Carna4 for its unique use of sprouted grains and lentils as opposed to the standard cereal grains found in most commercial kibbles.

As previously mentioned, these types of ingredients have the potential to provide additional nutritional benefits not found in their ground grain counterparts.

Bottom line?

Carna4 Dog Food is a plant-based dry kibble using a moderate amount of chicken as its main source of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

A Final Word

This review is designed to help you make a more informed decision when buying dog food. However, our rating system is not intended to suggest feeding a particular product will result in specific health benefits for your pet.

For a better understanding of how we analyzed this product, please be sure to read our article, “The Problem with Dog Food Reviews

Remember, no dog food can possibly be appropriate for every life stage, lifestyle or health condition. So, choose wisely. And when in doubt consult a veterinarian for help.

Have an opinion about this dog food? Or maybe the review itself? Please know we welcome your comments.

Notes and Updates

11/23/2011 Original review
11/23/2011 Last Update

  1. Yamato et al, Heinz Body hemolytic anemia with eccentrocytosis from ingestion of Chinese chive (Allium tuberosum) and garlic (Allium sativum) in a dog, Journal of the American Animal Hospital Association 41:68-73 (2005)
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  • monkey

    I have seen it anywhere from 140-160 for a 26lb bag.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Anyone know how much a large bag costs?  The small was $7.50 a pound (6 lb bag) on Amazon.  Didn’t have a large bag. Just curious. 

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Well Fed has 3 formulas, all chicken free.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Well Fed has 3 formulas, all chicken free.

  • Leslie

    Hi Dawn and Waterwings, Sorry for the slow response and thanks for your interest in Carna4. Our long-term plans are to expand the line with other products, including those with alternate protein sources. However we don’t have any firm time lines yet, as our focus has been on the all life stages chicken, which was launched less than a year ago.

  • Waterwings

    Dawn – I second that comment..mine’s allergic to chicken, so I’m always on the lookout for new high-quality chicken-free products!! ..especially one made by a Canadian company! (I’m in Canada)

  • DAWN

    LESLIE—IM DYING TO KNOW IF YOU WILL BE ADDING MORE PROTEIN CHOICES OR IS IT ALWAYS JUST GOING TO BE CHICKEN? MY GIRLS CAN NOT HAVE A LOT OF CHICKEN…LAMB WORKS THE BEST FOR THEM.  HOPE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU.  :o )

  • DAWN

    ha ha ziti peak!!

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Milly,

    Salt (sodium chloride) is a common ingredient in the majority of dog foods. That’s because salt is necessary for life by most animals (including humans).

    It’s not salt alone that can be unhealthy – it’s too much salt that can be a problem.

    Unfortunately, since most manufacturers don’t disclose the actual amount of salt added to a recipe, it’s impossible to judge this ingredient reliably.

    Hope this helps.

  • Milly

    Why is there any salt in this dog food?

  • Shawna

    DogLover ~~ if you have any questions about raw, as you research, do ask..  There are many of us here that have been feeding raw for a long time.  Different people here have different feeding styles too. Can acommodate whatever style you want to give a go (commercial, raw meaty bones etc).

    I think I just looked at the ingredients of this food for the first time..  Not bad.  If you are going to feed grains, sprouted grains are definitely the way to go :)   Changes them from seeds to living nutritious foods.  Nice

  • Dave’s Hounds

    I order my dogs monthly treatment from equine mega store – Trifexis is a monthly chew tablet rather than the topical and it is also heartworm preventative and many other worms.

    http://www.equine-mega-store.com/cache/header-9public__0-0.html?cache=no

  • DogLover

    Her fecal for round worm, tape worm etc. came back clean. The vet did have a separate test for Giadia and it was positive. She was treated and re-tested negative. This was when I first  adopted her. I do not know if the Coccidia and Crypto were tested or not. I will ask in her upcoming February physical. FROMM said their food is interchangeable and no transition is required. In the summer, she was on 6 months of Revolution. I am thinking if a combination of Advantage and an all inclusive de-wormer (if it exists) will be better. Now she is only on  Advantage for the Winter.
    I did use pumpkin with FROMM and there was improvement in the stool consistency. I have been using natural yogurt with Carna4 and has further improvement. I am also thinking may be she is getting older and so her system is becoming stronger both physically and mentally (she has separation anxiety).

  • Bob K

     DogLover – Parasite tests are not 100% accurate due to test procedures and parasite lifecycles.   The Fecal test should include: Worms, Giardia, Coccidia and Crypto which some vets do not include in the std. test.   Exactly what parasites did the Fecal include?  Is your dog on a monthly parasite preventative? 

    Going through 4 or 5 different foods without success is a little strange.  You don;t just switch dog foods, you transition slowly over a several week process.  What else is your dog eating?  People food?  Treats?  Lake, River water?  Any pesticides, Herbicides other animal poopies?  Does your dog eat sticks, twigs, acorns, leaves?  Something seems strange.

    You can also try Yogurt and Pumpkin, you can google for more details on use with dogs. 

  • Dave

    I rotate Carna4 and I have also been through Fromm and Orijen neither worked for my dogs. Carna4 was a big improvement but I prefer higher protein lower carbs. I found Natures Logic to work well. If they increase the protein in Carna4 I will go back to it. Ziti peak airdried is also excellent.

  • DogLover

    My dog from Toronto Animal Services is now approximately 15 months old and weighs 60 lbs.
    She was first on Hill’s Science Diet for 3.5 months. Stool was good but I did not like the ingredients.
    We then switched to Fromm which is a very good dog food.
    Her stool became a bit soft for pick up. Her check for parasites and other things that could cause loose stool came back clean.
    We had the Chicken formula and White Fish fomula and one of them gave her gas.
    We then tried the Origin (adult) but did not work because stool was way too soft.
    We swithced back to Fromm and tried the grain free Surf and Turf formula. Stool quality was better than when she was on Origin but the food gave her eye deposit.
    We swithced to Carna4 in September.
    Stool quality has since improved and pick up has become much easier. I cannot tell if it is because she is getting older and calmer or if it is the food.
    However, her coat is really nice and soft, will not make you itch after cuddling her, no doggy smell and I have not given her a bath since.
    I probably will stay on Carna4 for now until someting better comes up or until I finish researching on raw diet. At that point in time I will re-consider the options available.
        

  • David Stauble

    Thanks for all the comments. One thing that needs to be added, especially following yet another pet food recall (this time for aflatoxins) is that Carna4 has no synthetic additives, which greatly reduces the risk of contamination. Yet we guarantee effective levels of 64 key nutrients which are supplied by 100% real food ingredients. Aflatoxin testing is just one part of our thorough QC program that involves thorough food safety testing of ingredients and the finished product whenever we make Carna4.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Thank you all for your comments and interest, which I wanted to acknowledge. Certainly allergies are complex and not all owners go through the intensive testing. My messages were not claims but references to the feedback we have received from some owners; some of which are on our website, along with details of our quality control and third-party testing.

    As for raving, we believe in our product, which is made with real food and baked versus extruded (the extreme heat and pressure-laden process used to make most dry pet foods). Apologies if this enthusiasm offended anyone. Please check our website if you want more details or email me directly and I’ll be happy to respond. 

  • Bob K

    Imthemonkey- my point was the raving Leslie was doing about this food, the dogs have sush great results – that claim is pretty weak just as saying your kids are healthy eating junk food, the results speak for themselves. This site is about food analysis, not some – gee we get great results, sounds like Sharon our friendly FRR seller. This sounds like a food with a few changes can be great. High carbs.

  • Gordon

    Leslie@carna4 – It is true that not all carbs are created equal and I agree that sprouted seeds are a much healthier with more nutrients released than that of  non sprouted same. But while your dog food is OK and under average circumstances, a dog would probably do well on it (Too deficient for cats), it is a cheaper alternative in the manufacturer of this food, than that of a food more closely resembling the “evolutionary” or “ancestral wolf” diet. The latter being still, a supreme food choice, than any others, especially in the form of raw just as Mother Nature truly intended.

    But for those that don’t want to or even consider what their dog would actually more prefer, then kibbles such as yours is at least or appears at least better than the mainstream rubbish that the likes of Purina have to offer.

  • Anonymous

    Rskuhn, i don’t even know why you are bringing Ol’ Roy into this thread. They are in no way similar. Do you want Carna4 to throw some saw dust or wheat middlings into the food to make it less nutrient dense? I don’t understand what you’re getting at.

  • Rskuhn

    Leslie – People say their dogs thrive on Old Roy and many cheap dog foods. I wish I had a nickel every time some dog food company told me the BS about the food being so nutrient dense the dog eats a fraction compared to other dog foods. Yeah I feed my German Shorthair 1 cup of nutrient dense food a day and the dog is starving, not nutrient deficient, just hungry. You brag about the meats, who cares, it’s processed formed kibble, meal meals provide greater protein densities. Many dog food allergies are improperly or misdiagnosed without proper testing, it’s easier to keep playing musical dog foods rather than take the time and spend the money on proper allergy testing.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Thanks Waterwings for your interest. You might be  surprised to hear that we’ve been told about some dogs with perceived chicken allergies, who are eating Carna4 and thriving symptom-free. (The culprit may not be chicken but synthetics or something else in their previous food.) See Buffy’s story in our testimonials.  

    As for other protein formulas, we have some ideas but nothing we can speak about yet.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Thanks monkey for your input. Certainly we value having a good quantity of high quality protein in our food and will focus on what’s best for the dogs eating it.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Hi Dave, Glad to hear your dogs enjoy Carna4 and we expect you may also see benefits in their skin & coat, digestion and overall well being. 

    We respect your opinion on meat meal, as we agree its quality varies between types and manufacturers. However, there’s no question that nutrient levels are reduced when meat meal is processed, even when good quality meat is used. As such, we’re just pleased to make our food without it.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Hi Gordon, Thanks for your feedback, which is understandable if you consider any regular carb. However, not all carbs are created equal. Although we  have higher carb levels than some mostly-meat diets, our research has shown sprouted
    seeds are extremely digestible and nutritious, which eliminate the primary
    reasons for avoiding high-carb, grain-based diets. 

    Our third-party food science
    consultants have concluded that our mix of fresh meats, whole produce and
    sprouted seeds produce an effective nutrient balance that’s not found in
    conventional foods made with meat meals and ordinary carbohydrates.

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Hi imthemonkey, As Carna4 is very concentrated, you need to feed less than other food. It works out to about $25/week to feed a 50 lb dog, $13/wk to  feed a 20 lb dog or $38/wk to feed a 100 lb dog. (This is about the same or less than raw or home cooked but more convenient.) 

  • Gordon

    Leslie@carna4 – Just stating my personal opinion…..This food is too high on the carbohydrate side…This level should be what the protein is, and the protein what the carb level is. Otherwise, it looks like a not too bad a dog food.

  • Anonymous

    What is the average cost for your bags of food?

  • http://www.carna4.com Leslie@carna4

    Thanks Mike for reviewing Carna4. I’d like to add that Carna4 is made with no synthetic preservatives. Instead, it’s preserved by the high levels of antioxidants naturally produced by our
    sprouted seeds. I wanted to highlight this because having no added preservatives is rare for a commercial
    food (as you point out in some raw food reviews).

  • Dave’s Hounds

    My dogs love this food and the results after Orijen were fantastic. I rotate through this food. I would like to see higher protein and while I understand why you do not use meat meal, there are quality species specific meat meal avail. The higher protein would seal the deal for me. But I do use the food and my hounds love it – it is also a great treat.

  • monkey

    David Stauble, i see on your Up and Coming page you plan on making a weight management. If you really plan on doing this, PLEASE do not sacrifice meat protein in it. Carbs do not make a dog lose weight, feeding less does.

  • Waterwings

    David Stauble – I would love to try this food, it looks fab, but my Storm has a chicken allergy :-( So, I’m dyyyying to know if you’ve got future plans for different protein formulas?

  • monkey

    David Stauble, you really do have a truly unique food here. I wish you the best of luck and i hope your company takes off. It seems like so many dog food makers are just copying one another.

  • http://www.carna4.com David Stauble

    Thanks for reviewing Carna4. We appreciate how your ratings are set. However, we want to point out that unlike many high-protein foods we don’t use meat meal. Instead, we use fresh chicken and chicken liver, salmon and eggs, which is much more bioavailable than meat meal and as such, more value to dogs than many foods with higher protein levels. Also, the carbs come from sprouted seeds, which are extremely digestible, nutritious and full of live probiotics & enzymes. It’s quality of ingredients that counts!
    Respectfully,
    David Stauble
    President, Carna4 Inc.

  • Dave M

    Thanks I have been waiting for this review! Carbs are a bit higher and protein a bit lower than I would ideally prefer. Good food though my dogs
    loved it.