The Shocking Truth About Commercial Dog Food

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Warning. The following story is shocking but true. It’s taken with permission from an article published in 1990 by the Earth Island Journal.1

“The rendering plant floor is piled high with ‘raw product’. Thousands of dead dogs and cats; heads and hooves from cattle, sheep, pigs and horses; whole skunks; rats and raccoons — all waiting to be processed.

“In the ninety degree heat, the piles of dead animals seem to have a life of their own as millions of maggots swarm over the carcasses.

“Two bandanna-masked men begin operating Bobcat mini-dozers, loading the ‘raw’ into a ten-foot deep stainless steel pit. They are undocumented workers from Mexico doing a dirty job.

“A giant auger at the bottom of the pit begins to turn. Popping bones and squeezing flesh are sounds from a nightmare you will never forget.

“Rendering is the process of cooking raw animal material to remove the moisture and fat. The rendering plant works like a giant kitchen.

“The cooker, or ‘chef’, blends the raw product in order to maintain a certain ratio between the carcasses of pets, livestock, poultry waste and supermarket rejects.

“Once the mass is cut into small pieces, it is transported to another auger for fine shredding. It is then cooked at 280 degrees for one hour.

“The continuous batch cooking process goes on non-stop, 24 hours a day, seven days a week as meat is melted away from bones in the hot “soup”.

“During this cooking process, the “soup” produces a fat of yellow grease or tallow that rises to the top and is skimmed off.

“The cooked meat and bone are sent to a hammer-mill press, which squeezes out the remaining moisture and pulverizes the product into a gritty powder.

“Shaker screens sift out excess hair and large bone chips. Once the batch is finished, all that is left is yellow grease, meat and bone meal.”

Welcome to the
Dark Side of Recycling

So, what on earth could this unsavory concoction be legitimately used for?

Certainly not to make anything edible — right?

Unfortunately, as hard as it is to believe, the final product of this grisly process is sold as a source of protein and fat for making animal feeds.

That’s right, food made to be fed to chickens, pigs, cattle — and dogs.

Every day, hundreds of rendering plants across America ship thousands of pounds of this recycled rubbish to ranches, farms, feed lots — and pet food manufacturers.

Each batch of rendered product must be labeled according to its dominant animal source. 

So, the ingredients most likely to be made in this same way tend to have vague names that fail to clearly identify the source animal.

For example:

  • Animal by-product meal
  • Meat by-product meal
  • Animal fat

All are products of similar rendering process.

Toxic Waste
and Euthanized Pets

However, this same system which converts waste into animal feed has also evolved into a recycling nightmare. That’s because many rendering plants are unavoidably processing toxic waste, too.

You see, dead animals are frequently accompanied by a host of unwanted contaminants. Pesticides enter the rendering process via tainted livestock.

Fish oil is commonly contaminated with mercury and other heavy metals.

Dead pets collected from shelters are frequently thrown into the grinder with their flea collars still attached. Insecticide-laced patches found on the skin of slaughtered cattle are also carelessly added to the mix.

Antibiotics and other pharmaceuticals follow livestock directly into the soup. And drugs given to euthanize animals have been regularly found in the rendered product.

Unwanted metal contaminants can be traced to a variety of sources including pet collars, ID tags, surgical pins and needles.

Even plastics can sometimes end up in the process.

Even Spoiled Grocery Meats

Every day, out-of-date supermarket meats as well as spoiled fish and poultry arrive by the truckload, right in their original Styrofoam trays and shrink wrap. 

There’s simply no time for the tedious task of unwrapping each individual package of the many thousands of rejected products.

Plastic cattle ID lags, pesticide patches and even the green waste disposal bags containing dead pets from veterinary clinics and shelters are tossed directly into the pit.

As difficult as it can be to imagine, literally all of it — plastic, paper, cardboard — goes right into the rendering machine.

As shocking as it is to believe, much of what goes into some dog food is simply what’s left over after the processing of human food — what’s commonly classified as “unfit for human consumption”.

Unfit for Humans
Yet Legal for Dog Food

Here’s a short list of some of the unsavory raw materials already mentioned — plus a few others. And although each of the following ingredients are appalling, each can be lawfully used to make dog food:

  • Slaughterhouse waste (organs, heads, hooves, beaks, feet)
  • Bread and cereal rejects (cobs, stalks, mill sweepings)
  • Dying, diseased and disabled farm animals
  • Road kill (deer, skunks, and raccoons)
  • Contaminated grain middlings
  • Distiller fermentation waste
  • Spoiled supermarket food
  • Euthanized cats and dogs
  • Restaurant grease
  • Dead zoo animals

The Bottom Line

By now, it’s probably become obvious the pet food industry can be nothing more than a sinister waste disposal vehicle for human food manufacturers — and a way to profit from its own garbage.

That’s why it’s so important for every pet owner to be able to spot these dubious ingredients — and to avoid buying the products that have been made using these questionable materials.

Look for brands made by conscientious manufacturers who take pride in producing quality products — those designed to enhance and extend the life of your dog.

You’ll almost certainly be buying a better dog food.

Footnotes

  1. Keith Woods, “The Dark Side of Recycling”, Earth Island Journal, Fall 1990
  • Lime Light North Supervisor

    I agree with a lot of what you are saying. The only thing that bothers me is the fact that euthanized animals, plastics, metals and other foreign objects, should not be digested. These are the unnatural “ingredients” that should not be included and sound harmful to any living being. Not all foreign objects will float and will get skimmed in the process. There will always be a trace of the foreign, unnatural substance within the dog food. It does go through a grinder. All being said, most articles written are bias and often exaggerated. Personal preference I guess. If one can afford it and feels more comfortable to feed their dog premium food, who are we to judge. Same if some one is on a tighter budget (also think of good deeds.. example adopting a pet), who are we to judge if a pet owner does not or can not buy premium dog food. Just love your pet and take care of them the best you can. Continue to spread love and compassion. Have a great day everyone 🙂

  • cant_believe_it

    Wow!
    Thank you!

  • aimee

    Hi Jamica,
    If you scroll down a bit you’ll see the post in which I give an example from the trailer and misinformation itself from the movie

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-industry-exposed/shocking-truth-about-dog-food/#comment-3296518798

  • Jamaica Winship

    What misinformation?

  • titianmom

    Ah…this guy is 100% right. Canines in the wild eat all kinds of disgusting things. Sorry…but you’ve humanized your pet(s).

  • biblebill

    Mhik , that diet is no good . Read the ingredients . Zinc oxide and manganese oxide are no good they have harmful side effects . Buying raw foods is dangerous e- coli , mad cows etc . Also dogs don’t need [fruits / veg] they produce their own vitamin C which is what that food group is . Grains are very good for dogs of course whole and without chemicals, as well as whole milk room temp.
    My rot – chow mix was 14yrs old and people thought he was a puppy that’s how healthy he was . He ate like dogs did in the bible, whole grains, whole milk , cheese, eggs, butter, fish , chicken , potatoes , and a lady once said he was the healthiest dog she ever saw. His coat shined, looked like it had a coat of oil on it .People would always compliment how beautiful he looked .
    Make sure you give it spring or well water not tap water which is loaded with cancer .
    causing chemicals .
    Check out my site [ foundation of nutrition the bible] , google it . Then the post “mans best friend” .

  • mhikl

    Biblebil, they are indeed in it for the loot.

    • In Canada, some vet from Ontario seems to have control, own? the majority of Vet clinics across the nation. Pet owners close to the US board often travel south just to save money.

    • I had a great vet for my last, and favourite friend, Moh. I followed all procedures sanctioned by the system and my little girl develop some rare liver cancer around her 14th birthday. She had to be put down. I have never got over that horror, the guilt for what I did and allowed.

    • My present dog is a Corgi Prem, Sadie. I continued the same practice until her tenth birthday. On her 10th birthday I went BARF, with a good mix of raw organ and muscle meat and some raw veg, berries and fruit. Today she is 16y, 4m, 11d. I have studied human health (books now internet) since I was in my early twenties. Why did it take me that long to go BARF for my dog?

    • A year and a bit ago she began to lose strength in her hind quarters and now must be assisted with a special leotard belt for her hind quarters, and even her forelegs are weakening now, so a second one for that.

    • Sadie has had 5 seizures in the past four or so months, the last one a prolonged grand mal seizure. After the long seizure she howled and cried for an hour, as I tried to find a vet clinic.

    • She won’t be with me long, but I have modified her diet and exercise hoping the changes will prevent another seizure. The vet was not impressed with BARF, though admitted her diet seemed better than most BARF diets. (Vets like to claim that only muscle meat are fed on the diet.)

    • Sadie’s six siblings all died, had to be put down in their tenth to fourteenth years. Sadie is now in her seventeenth year. She demands a lot of food, but on BARF she has little fat on her ribs.

    • My next dogs will be BARF from the beginning. It surely is cheaper than ill dogs that need constant, expensive visits to vet-quacks. I do avoid all the extra shots vets persist in pushing. I have no use for any of the medical systems. They are all in it for the loot.

    Namaste and care,

    mhikl

  • OkayBye

    Chicken bones get brittle and will splinter after theyr’e cooked. Chicken and beef bones can both be offered raw.

  • Michael Burge

    Fine apparently this website is just straight up refusing to post my comment because it has now been well over a month and they still have not posted my response to your post. They additionally have not posted my other reply to someone’s comment. As of this moment it seems that they are basically shutting down my voice and only allowing others to comment without giving me a chance to respond. Wonderful people. Let’s see if this ends up posted, if so I will respond and tell you about you why your pentobarbital argument is invalid.

  • biblebill

    Of course it’s not , you can’t give drugs to dogs their livers can’t metabolize them .

  • MaryMary, Houston, TX

    And I’m waiting for your response about pentobarbital often found in sample testing. Is that natural for animals to ingest? Why wasn’t that removed in the heavy rendering?

  • biblebill

    Your absolutely right about what you don’t know will harm you Hos 4 : 6 [Niv] bible .

  • Wendy Nickell

    Great! I love to help pet parents because what you don’t know can harm them.You can get detailed info here: http://www.wendynickell.com and feel free to contact me anytime thru my site. Love to help!

  • Kristin Raye

    Would love to learn more….

  • aimee

    Hi Pam,

    There is a link to the trailer in this thread. Here is an excerpt from the trailer and the film as an example of misinformation. In reference to corn wheat and soy “those are the things that cause overweight, diabetes, arthritis,chronic skin allergies, infections..”

    The problem is, is that there is just as much evidence to say that beef, lamb, and chicken are the things that cause overweightedness, allergies, diabetes, and infections as there is to say corn, wheat and soy cause those things. In other words there is no basis to be making either statement. It is all “fake news”

    Here is a copy of a review I posted on another thread.

    “What was presented was very biased. For example in regards to rendering there were pics of body piles and dead stock and road kill but no real discussion that the material used in pet food is usually always from a USDA integrated facility leading the viewer to think that road kill and dead bloated cattle is the primary source for pet food ingredients.

    Major blunders in facts ( they couldn’t even get the anatomy labeling correct ) and appeal to nature fallacy.

    Dr. Becker incorrectly reported that the scientific name of the dog was
    changed from canis lupus familiaris to just canis lupus because dogs
    are essentially wolves vs them being a recognized subspecies.

    She reported the change was because the only differences between wolves and dogs is “outer packaging”

    Shesh!!
    Fact check people, just don’t lift garbage off of raw feeding sites
    and repeat it! What she said was pretty much verbatim from here https://www.balanced-canine

    What really happened was that the dog was canis familiaris and was
    changed to canis lupus familiaris. Similar renaming occurred with other
    domestic animals: separate species names were abandoned in favor of
    classifying under the same species and assigning a subspecies name.

    No mention of the Nature journal paper that reported on the genetic
    adaptation of dogs vs wolves in regards to carbohydrate metabolism.Hmm
    wonder why….

    Implications that major pet food companies won’t disclose where they source from because they declined to be interviewed
    for the film. I understand why they would decline to be interviewed and
    if the producers of the film were interested in looking at sourcing info
    they could have just lifted it from company web pages.

    Did they not want the viewer to know that human grade 1 and 2 grains and meat from USDA integrated plants is used in pet foods?

    All in all a waste of time. Not worth paying for and not worth watching.”

  • Pam Carleton Leach

    They probably didn’t initially post your article because it sounds like the rantings of a man-man. Ok, mad-scientist if you it makes you feel more important. Listen, YOU can feed to YOUR dog this type of loosely called “food” if you choose. I think you miss the point of the entire issue. Most of us (excluding you…and some others like you) would NOT choose to feed this…yes, I’ll call it garbage. You can call it what you will. The point is, the manufacturers of this crap do NOT want people to know what’s actually in the bag. They don’t actually SAY what’s inside the bag. Did you actually watch the film, “Pet FOOleD”? If you can watch that and STILL endorse what these manufacturers are doing…well, let me just say that I hope you someday end up in a huge vat being cooked and crushed up with all those other helpless animals.

  • Pam Carleton Leach

    WHAT? I don’t know what was in the trailer, but I saw the film in it’s entirety and I found it entirely believable…albeit horrific! The fact that the FDA is turning a blind eye to the entire toxic, rancid dog food industry comes as NO surprise to me whatsoever!

  • Pam Carleton Leach

    I don’t know about the food you buy for your dog, or it’s ingredients, but I HAVE learned through research that the Purina Waggin Train Chicken Jerky treats that I’ve been feeding my dog for her entire life (it’s only through luck that she’s still alive) has been continuing to kill dogs, in spite of numerous investigations. The dog treats seem to….healthy! Two ingredients….that’s it! “chicken, glycerine”. How can you do better than that, right? Seems no one knows…but the dogs keep dying! And NO….I’m not still giving these poison sticks to my baby girl!

  • biblebill

    Dogs do not need fruit/ veg. They produce their own Vit C.

  • While some vegetable are OK for dogs, please don’t eventually try and make your dogs vegetarian like yourself. It will slowly kill them.

  • Wendy Nickell

    I am a rep for a holistic dog /cat food & treat company. Just for this reason, I chose to educate myself and others on this industry. Feel free to contact me if you want a healing, holistic, not more $ food.

  • biblebill

    Most vets are evil, many know dog food is causing all the cancer but they don’t care ,they care about money more than your dog 1 Tim 6 : 10 [Niv] bible .If our dog stay’s sick they can give it drugs, run tests and line their pockets .

  • biblebill

    Thank you .

  • aimee

    There is so much misinformation in the trailer alone that I wouldn’t find this to be beneficial.

  • petergorman

    There’s a new, very educational documentary out that focuses just on this topic. The film is called “Pet Fooled” and is available on Netflix. Watch it today! https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=2eVoicSHimI

  • Robert Woods

    WORD!!!!

  • Michael Burge

    Again, waiting for my response to be posted. I responded here more than a week ago and I still don’t see it as of 4/16/17.

  • biblebill

    I did .what I said is true .

  • Annie Banannie

    Good God, Bible Thumper, you are way wrong. If you’re so Christian, you should learn to speak the truth.

  • Annie Banannie

    Great logic. You didn’t see it, so it isn’t happening.

  • Annie Banannie

    tl;dr
    I don’t care what temperature they cook this conglomeration of crap at. I still don’t want my beloved pets, or any other species for that matter, eating their own kind. Not natural and not right. Your post – what little I read of it – reads like it was written by a lunatic, so sorry if I don’t buy into your rant.

  • Michael Burge

    Okay so, Evangers. First off, you destroy your own argument because that contamination was only in canned dog food not dry. Canned food does not use rendered meat so it does not go through the same processes that would normally kill bacteria and sanitize the product. Second, the contaminant in question was a barbiturate used to euthanize animals not the “icky stuff” as you called it that we are speaking of. The rendering process absolutely obliterates harmful bacteria and I said that the rendering process also takes care of pieces of plastics and other things that float. I made absolutely no claims that rendering could remove poison from contaminated meat, that is an entirely different ball game. However rendering could help with that since that much water and cooking would likely dilute the chemical in question, but that’s just conjecture. Again all of this is irrelevant since your example is of foods that DON’T contain rendered meat. Not a good example.

    Second, I love how you think that the existence of slightly cheaper, meat based dog food means my example of $80 bags is off the table. That isn’t how reality works. Just because there are other options doesn’t mean that the extremely expensive brands don’t exist anymore. There is still a huge market for extremely over priced dog food that just says a bunch of meaningless, nice sounding words to attract people who are not educated on the subject (which is A LOT of people). And my point is that both of those things are unnecessary, both your examples and the extravagant. Buy what you want, but my point is that this whole “real meat as the first ingredient” and “meat based food” camp is blind. Rendered meat is safe. Rendered meat is highly concentrated nutrition. Rendered meat is perfectly healthy for dogs and quite frankly many other animals including humans.

    And I’m aware that vets push the one food diet. But ultimately it’s people, the owners, who are too lazy or blind to take the time and think about things logically. To realize that a one food diet is ridiculous and a bad idea. The vet can’t force people to feed their dog something. It is both of their faults.

    Again, the presence of maggots speaks to the meats condition on the floor. But it means absolutely nothing about the meats condition after the rendering process. You’re allowed to say that the thought makes you feel uneasy, but you aren’t allowed to deny the fact 280 degree water is going to sanitize that product. You just aren’t.

    And I agree that it’s insane to pay so much for dog food that is so cheap to produce. That comes down to the consumer. Businesses will always try to make as much as they can. It’s up to people to educate themselves. And I mean truly educate yourselves not read ridiculous blogs like this one. Study biology, study physiology, study dog evolution. Actually learn from credible sources.

  • Mimi Baker

    Poop eating is a behavioral issue, just fyi.

  • Mimi Baker

    I will point to the current Evanger’s situation with measurable quantities of pentobarbital in their products to show that not all of the “icky stuff” disappears with rendering. (Regardless of who was at fault for why rendered meats were in their foods)

    Also there are many brands of natural foods that don’t cost any more than the higher end Purina products but are made with real meat instead of corn, so let’s take your $80 per 25 pound bag out of the equation – though I know those exist too – so do Ferraris and Chevys. Some people just prefer higher end products. I know for a fact there are foods out there without rendered meats that retail for around $1.00 a pound (at least in Texas before taxes)

    Also it is vets who recommend one food forever. Most natural food advocates recommend rotating proteins at the very least for the varied benefits different proteins can give and for the exact reason you mention – so the GI tract can become accustomed to a variety of foods.

    I agree 100% with your statement on maggots – they are a beneficial creature and certainly a source of protein, but their very presence speaks to the condition of the meat on the floor. My dogs never ate rotten meat on our property. They certainly rolled in it, but did not eat it. Dogs are not scavengers by nature unless nothing else is available. Fish and fresh game parts, sure. Hoof shavings, any sort of fresh poop (most of which has protein in it still if it came from a carnivore) – absolutely. Rotten parts – not usually. Some dogs yes, some dogs no – just like some people will drink milk well past the expiration date while others of us can smell it when it starts to turn the least little bit.

    Using the meat waste up in cheap pet foods is certainly a good thing. Many people can only afford foods who use rendered meats. Those people will not likely be on this site. I have a problem with rendered meats in supposedly high-end pet foods like Purina Pro Plan and Science Diet. Why pay that price for rendered meats and corn??

  • Stuart Mill

    Is there any way to find out if the dog food I buy contains “Whole Egg Waste”? The ingredients label on my dog food bag just says “dried egg product”. I read an article about hatchery waste and it sounds pretty disgusting. When I do a web search on “dried egg product”, the top companies are IsoNova, Rembrant Foods and Rose Acre Farms. It looks like only IsoNova is selling pet food ingredients. The other two look like they are human food. I search their websites and can find no information on what goes into the dried egg products except that it is some form of egg. How do I find out how good the egg is? Are the egg products regular eggs or are they rejects or something else. The article on “disposal of hatchery waste” was pretty disgusting and I want to make sure that my dog gets clean egg products not rotting waste.

  • Molly Clark

    Thank you so much for being one of the only logical commenters on this idiotic article! I disagree with the meat industry in general and don’t eat meat or dairy products myself, but I feed my dog dog food because dog food actually makes use of the insane amount of waste the meat industry produces, and articles like this which suggest we should leave the waste and kill even more animals so poor sensitive little Fido (who will happily eat his own s**t) doesn’t have to eat anything less than 5* cuisine are absurd and detrimental.

  • Storm’s Mom

    The one that starts “Okay, wtf?”? If so, it looks like it’s a bit further down this page… (4 below my post (this one) as I write this)

  • Michael Burge

    And if it’s stuck in there does that mean you are going to post it? Which is the more important question.

  • Michael Burge

    Inclusion of words like…?

  • sandy

    Your inclusion of certain words in your previous post made it get stuck in the filter/pending area. And Dog Food Advisor does not receive any money from dog food makers.

    In closing, we do not accept money, gifts or samples from pet food companies in exchange for special consideration in the preparation of our reviews or ratings.
    However, we do receive a fee from Chewy.com for each purchase made as a direct result of a referral from our website. This fee is a fixed dollar amount and has nothing to do with the size of an order or the brand selected for purchase.

  • Michael Burge

    Didn’t post any links. Just disagreed and provided arguments that they could not refute.

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Sometimes they don’t let links go through, try posting again without providing direct links.

  • Michael Burge

    Of course this website didn’t post what I said. How dare they actually post the one who is using scientific knowledge and logic. That would go against their entire worldview. Fear and emotions are the only truth out there, right? You believe it, so it’s true. You FEEL it’s true, so there is no need to back it up with evidence and education.

    I only post this response in the hopes that the website hosts will see this. You know what you are doing. You know why you didn’t let my post go through. You can tell yourself you are right all you want, but the bottom line is you have no counterarguments to what I said because you know it’s true. If I am wrong, contact me. Please, I would love for you to try and prove anything I said wrong. You know my email, [email protected]. I dare you.

  • Laura Torres

    Anyone knows of any dog food brands that don’t participate in this kind of disgusting act ??? Or should i just take my dog off of dog food entirely?

  • You’re surprised to find bone in meat products? That’s like being disappointed you can’t sue a fast food place when your egg and muffin has egg shell in it. C’mon man, let’s be realistic here in our hopes.

  • Whilst I like an informed consumer market, the site you linked to spreads a lot of scientific illiterate nonsense too. Pretending rending somehow changes the chemical composition of things to be less nutritious is just an indicator of a complete rejection of reality. I know that diets and nutrition as a whole attract some very … strange characters who barely have a high school level understanding of science – but even at a glance their front page has pure misinformation and irelevant nonsense and anti-science claims on it.

  • Yeah. Because the whole purpose of writing news articles is to publish false information. I mean, given the state of the mainstream media I can see why that might be a suspicion. But google meatmeal or rending and you’ll see this is normal.

  • That’s not true. Harambe rose to the heavens intact and sits at the right hand of Kek to watch over us.

  • Uhm. A vet? Your dog bleeding from its butt would be horrible if it wasn’t a mutant rat bred by sickos in a puppy farm somewhere for ridiculous owners who like mutant rats. And I’d probably suggest taking it to a vet, rather than just playing make-believe that somehow it’s diet was to blame.

  • You aren’t fussy – you’re just scientifically illiterate. Your understanding of the importance of vacuum sealing is kind of hilarious. Air in quality out cracked me up.

  • With a username and display pic like that – yeah, we should thank invisible sky fairies you don’t have pets and pray you don’t have kids.

  • Mostly because the meat industry didn’t start until the 50’s. Because the entire world of agriculture had tooled up to mass produce high protein high fat high energy cannable products – meat. So once WWII ended suddenly there was a huge glut of left over cattle and re-tooled farms that couldn’t afford to tool back to other mixed agriculture. Enter what was later to be known as the ‘public relations industry’ with early marketing propaganda like the ‘feed the man meat’ campaign. To this day the meat industry still hosts hundreds of pure propaganda ads pretending meat is the most natural food product on earth when prior to 1950 people rarely ate it, maybe once a week if that. Now it makes up nearly every single meal humans in first world countries eat – which is why we’re so freakin’ obese. A fruit and nut diet with occasional meat will sort that out. But your dogs DO need protein, and rended chicken meal has nearly six times as much protein in it than a whole chicken does as it’s a dehydrated product (meaning a chicken that is 70% water, like us, is 15% protein or so – but once it’s boiled and boiled and boiled until the water is gone then crushed into a dry powder it’s less than 5% water and 95% protein). To be blunt – it’s not nice, but it is less wasteful than throwing it all in landfill. And at least that way these animals didn’t die for nothing.

  • My father was a tradesman and often was contracted on by a big dog food company through his work, in the end he had to literally request they stop asking for him because he couldn’t stomach what was going on inside – and for all intents and purposes it was similar to the above story. I’m unsure what ‘purina dog chow’ is but clearly you didn’t see a rending floor. This is how meatmeal is made, not in the US – but everywhere. Every. Where. Google ‘meatmeal’ and ‘rending’ and investigate this. I’m unsure of your work experience at ‘purina dog chow’ but from the sounds of it you don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • I get that this is horrific. Well, not as horrific as the meat industry as a whole. But still – isn’t this better than all that death going to waste and feeding nothing? I mean sure, contaminants are thrown in, but do you think any of those contaminants make it into the output food in any pp/m of any significant quantity? I don’t. Every contaminant could be processed out with a simple skim, or a pollution trap, as used in stormwater drains. Soylent green for pooches is kind of a messed up thought, but it’s far less wasteful than all those dead cattle bits and pieces going into landfill meaning that those animals died for nothing.

  • Crystal

    Buy premade ground raw

  • Crystal

    I have an uncle and he used to drive q8 wheelers. He will to this day tell you this is true. He will tell you about all the dead animals from roadkill, euthanized, etc he used to haul to the dog food plants. He said it stunk so bad he had to wear a mask while driving there. Oh, the horror stories he tells about it.
    I also know a lady who worked in the dog food industry and she states it is true also. When they throw all the animals in with the tags, etc it all eventually floats to the top and they just skim it off

  • SeaweedCat

    It’s infuriating that dog food brands would willingly trick us dog owners into feeding our dogs literal trash and rotten garbage.

  • SeaweedCat

    I was always suspicious of dog food and why they were huge loaves of weird pink gunk. I consulted a dog nutritionist the other day and she told me that my dog was not gaining weight because canned dog food was the equivalent of eating McDonald’s everyday. A better alternative would be vegetables including broccoli, cauliflower, carrots and peas with chicken or pork, raw or cooked.

  • Tracy Sixx

    This is completely wrong and I don’t know where this supposed warehouse is but I did work for Purina dog chow and none of this was happening there . No road kill dead cats skunks raccoons or maggots being cooked down for dog food . Someone needs to get their story straight cause I promise this is not in the US it has to be another country cause its not going on here .

  • cathy anderson

    This is why I hear that small little voice telling me to take my dogs off of dog food. Nobody used dog food until around the 60′ when it appeared on the market making all kinds of promises. For 10,000 years people fed their dogs their leftovers, bacon, biscuits, bacon grease, fresh eggs, etc and they didn’t have tumors and cancer, etc. If you watch the Back to Eden film with Paul Gautschi his dogs eat out of his garden he never feeds “dog food” they eat what the want, the veggies are highly nutritious, over the top vitamin and mineral content, and they eat his chicken eggs. His chickens are fed kale, strawberries, chard, all leftovers from his garden. That to me is the ideal system, so I have been slowly switching my dogs over to our food, which we are vegetarians, and btw kale has more protein than meat. That is bc our bodies cannot dissolve half the protein in meat and they can dissolve all the protein in kale. My dogs LOVE greens and carrots and blueberries. They prefer it, and they did have dog food. Just a thought. What are you paying for again? Why don’t you just empty your garbage can into the dog bowl?

  • Ms.weed4brains

    Omfg …thank god I don’t have pets

  • Opinion02122

    OMG, after reading that article, I’m sick! I feed my dog Orijen and I’m VERY fussy. It is, essentially, vacuum sealed, though not completely, they call it something else. If I get a bag that has lost the seal, I won’t accept it. Air in, quality out. It’s expensive, but my dog is small and only eats about 4 oz. a day. I break the big bags into small bags that I vacuum seal to keep fresh. I started doing this years ago when I found bugs in a bag of dog food that I had just bought. Disgusting! I add fresh meat as a topping and my dogs seem to be doing quite well. I also make my own chicken jerky for the dog’s treats. Nothing’s too good for my babies!

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Nutrisca kibble is small, plus you can always presoak it overnight so that it’s soft. Check chewy.com
    I would continue to add a topper of chopped cooked lean meat or such and therefore you can use less kibble.

  • InkedMarie

    That is not a balanced diet at all. If you want to feed a raw diet, you need to join a raw feeding group or buy a pre-made raw diet.

    You can also feed a canned or dehydrated diet.

  • First Vette

    My Shih-tzu Spaniel mix was bleeding rectally from Blue Buffalo and we started fixing her food ourselves from Supermarket ground beef, rice, and eggs. This cured the issues, but going back on other kibbles hasn’t worked (too big/ she’s missing some teeth). Any recommendations? (Thx!)

  • Beth Taylor

    Alpo is one of the worst foods on the market. Read ingredients on labels and check on dogfoodadvisor.com for better options. It’s so difficult these days to find good quality food.

  • Amber

    My younger brother after reading the list of ‘foods’ legal in dog food said some dog ate Harambe!

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  • Kathy Bakken

    Please check out my website for your pet’s sake http://www.pawtree.com/aquaticcanines

  • Kathy Bakken

    You guys, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE check out my website pawtree.com/aquaticcanines We need to get our pets off those foods and quit poisoning them. pawTree is based out of Texas and all the food and supplements are made right here in the USA…ALL NATURAL AND HOLISTIC rated 4.5 stars by DOG FOOD ADVISOR…please check out my site and save your pets

  • Zabo

    Oh my. I hope what was said isn’t true.

  • Ellie

    http://truthaboutpetfood.com A website whose creator has studied the pet food industry for years. She attends the FDA and industry meetings and even tries to get them to make useful changes. There is lots of info there about the industry’s methods and ingredients. Unfortunately, the FDA is responsible for allowing this multi-billion dollar waste disposal industry to slowly poison our pets.
    Veterinary schools accept money and product from the pet food industry. This makes them financially linked to the industry. Vets depend on the industry to keep them going. Independent vet clinics have the pet food industry supplying prescription food, samples, and advertising, and various expensive perks to them. This hardly makes them impartial when it comes to suggesting foods for pets to their clients.
    Processed foods and the synthetic vitamins added to them are not good for humans much less animals. A couple decades ago thousands of private family farms were forced into bankruptcy by corrupt political actions. Many of those farms and ranches were bought up by large food corporations that now mass produce GMO foods, mistreat and adulterate the livestock.
    Most of the food products found in grocery stores cannot even be recognized as food as and the stuff that looks like food has been genetically engineered or injected with antibiotics, steroids, hormones, and other chemicals.
    Food is big money and all mammals need it. The problem is that very greedy deceitful people now control most of the food supply.

  • Shawna

    Milk can technically never be hormone free as hormones are produced by the cow but I do agree that consuming a product free of added synthetic hormones, like rbGH, is certainly healthier.

    Milk is not a healthful food for all. I am sensitive to the casein protein in milk. When I consume dairy, especially cheeses which are higher in casein, I have reactions like hives, joint pain, ataxia and more. Before going on the elimination diet and determining dairy was the cause of my symptoms I drank Organic Valley whole milk. I also react to organic, whole goat milk.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Shawna, The fat soluble Vi t A, D, E, are” stable” in heat it doesn’t alter the milk to any appreciable extent . Don’t listen to the lies you hear” whole” milk hormone free ,” grass” fed is truly one of the healthiest foods . Check out my blog site [ foundation of nutrition the bible] . Google it . There is no truth out there today as was predicted by a great man of God for our “modern” times Isa 59 : 15 Niv bible . Hope you like today’s bible verse 1 Tim 6 : 6, 7 [ Niv] bible . May the God of Christ bless you .

  • Shawna

    For some humans, and likely dogs too, the casein protein in milk can cause real issues including malnutrition by blunting the little hairs in the small intestines that absorb the nutrients from the foods we eat (aka villous atrophy).

    There was also a mutation in cattle many years ago that allows an opiate (beta casomorphin 7) to be released into the system upon digestion. There has been some discussion that this can cause illnesses including diabetes, heart disease and schizophrenia. The cows with this mutation are referred to as A1 cattle. In the US, even organic suppliers, mix dairy from A1 and A2 cows together. However you can get strictly A2 dairy if buying direct from the farm.

    Pasteurization does cause some protein denaturation and it destroys the enzymes in the milk. Omega 3’s are not heat stable so I assume some, or even most, of the omega 3s from grass fed cows is damaged during pasteurization. I believe the vitamin A and B’s in milk are also damaged by heat. I don’t know to what degree though. If you’re going to drink milk though, I completely agree with you about consuming whole milk from grass fed cows.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Very dangerous chicken bones , they can cut their throat. Dogs do not have to eat raw, it’s not true .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Karen , milk does not have to be raw because Vit D is stable in heat , a scientific fact . Those processes do not alter milk to any appreciable extent . The most important point is that it’s “grass” fed and” whole” , of course hormone free etc! which you can find everywhere.
    And my dog lived on whole milk and a lady said he was the healthiest looking dog she ever saw , and he was like 12yrs old at the time . Whole milk is one of the healthiest foods one can consume, it’s a lie that it’s detrimental to your health . How could something “whole” be bad for you ?.
    Google benefits of whole milk .
    Dogs need saturated fat from eggs , milk , cheese to keep their coats shiny .
    Don’t believe much of what you hear today it’s mostly lies as a great man of God predicted for our “modern” times. Isa 59 : 15 [ Niv] bible.

  • Catherine Joy Korni

    Many thanks for drawing this fact to my attention!

  • Karen Sullivan

    Milk is NOT ok for your dogs and cats. That is a myth. Actually I should be more specific. Milk is bad for our pets and it is bad for humans as well. Raw milk straight from the cow is the only way consuming milk is ok. Unfortunately for most Americans, you can no longer find milk that hasn’t been f##### with. The process of homogenization and pasteurization changes the molecular and chemical compounds of milk and makes it unhealthy. People who are lactose intolerant wouldn’t be if they drank unprocessed milk. Don’t make the mistake of giving your pets milk if it comes from the market.

  • Velo Treads

    I was using Orijen kibble at $100 for 30# bag. It’s not good enough for my dog any longer. I now feed my Lucy a raw / prey diet. She only eats real, and fresh foods; raw meat, uncooked bones, organs, and a small amount of fruit and veg. I supplement with a multi vit and min and either salmon or coconut oil to cover my bases. I encourage you all to do a lot of research on raw, BARF, and prey diets for your dogs and for your cats. Bonus: less poo, oder free poo, poo that turns white and crumbles away 🙂

  • $1677187

    You must add Vegepet vitamins to this daily (taurine and vitamin b12). The taurine is naturally found in meat and has to be supplemented. Also, daily they must have a digestive enzyme powder. That’s it.

  • ddiizzyy

    My dog is alergic to commercial dog food, most likely the protein source so I have some recipes I make once a week from home. I will share one of my dogs favorite recipes. I did all the research on the analysis to keep her daily intake stable:

    My dog is thriving on this recipe. In fact, there are dogs out there that ate vegetarian and lived to almost 30.

    941 calories a day
    46 g protein
    21g fat

    seven day recipe below

    14 cups of lentils
    7 cups of quinoa
    3.5 cups of brocolli
    3.5 cups of sweet potato
    1 tbsp, each meal, olive oil, flax seed oil, or coconut oil.

    4 c day to be fed.

    Dog should have part green and part orange as their vegetable and 50 percent should be a protein source.

  • Mick G

    Actually this article also and really applies to Nutro pet food, they are owned by Mars. Mars is the same company that mostly makes candy and then Nutro, Iams and Pedigree pet food. I had a cat die in 2009 from kidney failure because Nutro had 8X the normal amount of zinc and no potassium. I paid $700 for a necropsy because my cat was a 8 year old healthy cat that I found out that I was feeding pretty much poison Nutro to. Nutro has had 78 recalls since 2005, by far the most of any company. Some were for pentobarbital and done by the FDA – CVM branch. NEVER feed your pet Nutro. It’s totally dangerous hit or miss garbage. It is not considered a “high quality food”. If you don’t believe me, Google it.

  • mahoraner niall

    you’re very welcome (:
    its so aggravating that purina fools innocent pet owners into thinking that purina is the healthiest food out there, because that’s far from the truth (VERY far)
    But in a way, its kind of funny, A few years ago they were trying to tell consumers that grains were “soooooo healthy”, but now, 3 years later they have 5 different grain free foods.
    But not to sound evil, but im kinda happy you found the bones, because if you didn’t, you probably would have kept feeding alpo and sadly, in a few years your (innocent) dog would have passed.

    So in a way, it was kind of like a blessing in disguise if you know what i mean

    But again, im glad i could help (:

  • Lola

    Yes thank u I feel awful, I thought alpo was supposed to be good. I’m gonna try the nutro max. I need to stop watching commercials and start buying better for my pups, thank u for the help

  • mahoraner niall

    yes! thank you for reminding me! i usually just check chewy since anyone can purchase from there,

  • Babslynne

    Don’t forget Kirkland Signature $0.80 a can
    (Only at Costco) and Pure Balance $1.12 a can (only at Walmart) also 4Health $0.99 a can (only at Tractor Supply)

  • mahoraner niall

    Im so sorry to hear that! but hopefully you switch to a higher quality food from this situation,
    Here are a few good quality wet foods at a similar price to alpo (if you but it at a grocery store, thre price at mine is $0.83 a can when bought in a 12 pack, and on chewy.com its $0.75 a can in a 12 pack) Also all of these are price-per-can in 12 packs :

    Nutro max canned ($1.27 a can)
    Natures recipe canned ($1.50 a can)
    Triumph grain free canned ($0.92 a can)
    Chicken soup for the soul canned ($1.46 a can)

  • InkedMarie

    Sorry you found bone but it may be good: Alpo is a very low quality food.

  • Lola

    I just found a handful of BONE CHUNKS in my 2 small dogs ALPO brand wet dog food. I’ve been buying it for a year and thought the white chunks were fat pieces. All a person can do is email company and by this blogs accounts its all legal. omg

  • Crazy4dogs

    Cannoli is absolutely correct. Puppies like children, need a balanced diet to grow properly. Please research a balanced diet or feed a commercial food that is balanced for puppies. The growth stage is one of the most important stages in a dog’s life. If the diet is unbalanced, nutritional deficiencies will result.

  • Cannoli

    you can’t just feed them chicken or do just add chicken to the kibble?

  • Marla Chav

    I have two puppies, from the beginning my puppies refused to eat dog food. I started broiling chicken for my children and added more to feed my puppies. My son used to say my puppies were spoiled, but after reading this, I would rather feed my puppies food I make because that way I know what they are eating. I am sure dog food sooner or later will cause pets who consume it to get seriously ill.

  • Shawna

    Interesting! Thanks for the info!

  • SamJS

    I believe they’ve proven that Mad Cow Disease and CWD (Chronic Wasting Disease) both of which are caused by prions do not affect animals in the Canine Family, which includes dogs and wolves. It’s one of the reasons they have introduced wolves into States where CWD among the deer herd is a problem. The wolves tend to kill off the sick deer, since they’re are easier to catch than the healthy deer, and consuming them doesn’t put the wolves at risk. Wisconsin is one state that does this.

  • Raphael Rosales

    This is horrible, poor animals. 🙁

  • American by choice

    Sadly not all shelters do this.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Don’t understand what they are. But I hope you like today’s bible verse Rom 12 : 9 [ Niv] bible .

  • theBCnut

    I know there are many people who only feed their dogs meat. That isn’t what I said. I said I haven’t heard them say that dogs can only eat meat. There is a difference between what people feed their dogs and what dogs can be fed, you know. As an example, my dog can eat chicken, grains, tomatoes, flax, alfalfa, and several other foods that I would NEVER feed him, because he has food sensitivities and those foods are not what is best for him. He can eat them, but I would never feed them to him. Do you see the difference? Nobody says dogs can’t eat kibble, but they do say it isn’t what is best for them. And since even the best kibbles are highly processed high starch foods, I really have to agree.

    My dogs like several different fruits and veggies all by themselves. But I do agree that they don’t have to have them. Where I disagree is that I do believe they can get some benefit from some fruits and veggies, as long as you use ones that can give the most benefit and don’t over do it. They don’t have any requirement for grains or any other starch source either, but some may get some small benefit from small amounts of grains as long as they don’t over do it.

  • DogFoodie

    My dogs favorite treat is a Halo or a Cutie.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    What are you talking about, there are many sites were people say they only feed their dogs raw meat period . And dog food is junk especially” kibble” . Most dogs will turn their nose up at fruits and vegetables” all by themselves “, try giving a dog a carrot , or an apple , orange by itself they won’t eat it , my dog would just play with it , again they don’t need fruits and veg which are overwhelmingly Vit ” C ” and some” A”.

  • catahoula59

    They also put the euthanized animals in landfills–I know this for a fact because I used to key in the tickets for all dumping into the landfill–

  • theBCnut

    I have never heard of anyone ever saying that dogs can only eat raw. That’s absolutely ludicrous, since most dog, by a HUGE margin, eat kibble. I have however heard many people argue for why raw is best. And fruits have far more in them than just vit c. In fact, the best reason to feed small amounts of certain fruits and veggies is for the natural antioxidants and the micronutrients. And some dogs need added fiber in their diets as they age, just like people.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Shawna, fruits and Veg are mainly Vit C , especially[ fruits]. Most dogs will turn their nose up at them , try it, put a raw carrot on the floor , or give them a sliver of an orange or a piece of apple they instinctively know it’s not what they need. They need a higher fat [ saturated] diet, whole milk , butter, eggs ,cheese , and their coat will shine .And yes grains are great , go online google” Can dogs eat grains” .

  • Shawna

    “Fruits and veggies supply far more nutrients than vitamin C.” Surely you must know this?

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Shawna, dogs don’t eat or need fruits / veg they produce their own Vit C , go check on it .

  • Shawna

    Fruits and veggies supply far more nutrients than vitamin C.

    Grains do not supply any nutrients that could not be found in another food. They are, as a group, higher in the omega 6 fatty acids that cause inflammation. They are sources of anti-nutrients like phytic acid and trypsin inhibitors. Several are genetically modified and likely hybridized beyond anything that would be found in nature (far different from what was eaten in biblical times). Wheat, as just one example, has been changed to have greater amounts of gluten protein. Not to mention, there is no biological requirement, nor need, for grains, or carbs for that matter, in the diet. Not saying, however, that they couldn’t be beneficial if properly prepared (fruits and veggies included).

  • Bill Pickersgill

    No , they can , but everyone tries to say they can only eat” raw” , I’m saying not true they can eat from the grain ,dairy, as well as the meats food group , they don’t need fruits / veg for they produce their own Vit C unlike humans.

  • Deanna Alexander

    How do you make your food?

  • Terri Lee Batton

    I have one question LOL!!! Did they bring their dogs or not? hahahahaahahaha!!! This string is PRICELESS – THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS!

  • Terri Lee Batton

    I LOVE YOU LABS!!! hahahaha, I know this “conversation” happened a week ago but I am just catching up. On a tough Friday at lunch, this made me LOL… Thanks!! 🙂

  • Shawna

    I see this was posted a month ago but I don’t see that anyone replied? Sometimes Disqus doesn’t show all posts though so I apologize in advance if someone did and I just can’t see it. 🙂

    I agree, we have definitely bred dogs to look very much different but the digestive tract of the Chihuahua is no different than the digestive tract of the Husky, Malamute or German Shephard which all, in my opinion, still resemble the wolf. The digestive tract is not hugely different than the modern day wolf for that matter. The only difference I am aware of is, at least some, current day dogs are able to make more amylase digestive enzyme (which digests carbs). That said, I’ve read they can nowhere near produce the same amount that humans produce.

    If you think about it though, even humans are capable of digesting raw meats — I LOVE sushi. My hubby eats his prime rib so raw that it actually makes me a bit queasy (as does my sushi for him though). 🙂 Never had it but steak tartare is considered a delicacy and is raw beef. Of course, all of these raw meats have to be handled carefully so as not to become contaminated with bacteria — that happens during processing.

  • Shawna

    Although I am, under the right circumstances, pro zero vaccines (my grandchildren are 100% vaccine free) I am also very much pro those vets that advocate limited vaccines and titers. It’s such a huge step in the right direction.

  • theBCnut

    The eating habits of the economically challenged is not a good way to decide on correct eating habits and I don’t think anyone suggested feeding red meat exclusively. Dogs in the Bible were considered unclean because they are carrion eaters. Please don’t tell me you think they can’t handle raw. They can handle raw and rotting, both. YUCK!!

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Bottom line is people rarely ate meat , dogs ate all kinds of other things bread , eggs , fish, dairy products etc , the point ,you do not need or even want to feed a dog” raw” red meat exclusively.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    I don’t understand how you can say Dodds is great, she vaccinates , look at her sites all the people whose dogs are ruined . And some Vets are sincere and have good intentions but that doesn’t mean they know what their doing , and the more I see” a lot” of Vets will do what they can to make money of pets.

  • LabsRawesome

    That scripture has absolutely nothing to do with an actual dog, or canine. Gentiles were referred to as dogs. The “bread” is the word of God. Think about it, the woman comes to Jesus begging for her possessed daughter to be healed. Why in the world would Jesus start talking about canines and bread? He would not, and he did not.

  • theBCnut

    Make up your mind! Are you going to interpret this figuratively or literally. You can’t have both ways. Why are you pointing this passage out as proof of how dogs should be fed and then contradicting yourself and saying it isn’t about dogs. I know what it’s about. I’m the one that keeps saying you are misinterpreting the Bible to say what you want it to say.

  • theBCnut

    Arsenic, the poison, will make a dog’s coat full, soft, and shiny, before it poisons the dog to death. Coat appearance is not a good indicator of health, but it does fool people who don’t know any better into thinking that their dog is in optimal health.

  • theBCnut

    Dogs being able to eat bread is NOT the same thing as dogs requiring bread.

  • theBCnut

    I have a real strong grasp of the meaning of this scripture, which you seem to fail to have. This scripture isn’t about what is proper to feed dogs in any way. Even if you look at the literal meaning instead of the figurative, it still is only saying that dogs may pick up what is dropped on the floor, not you should drop bread on the floor so dogs can eat a proper meal.

    People who interpret the scriptures to mean whatever they want them to for their own agenda need to consider the eternal ramifications of their actions.

  • theBCnut

    That’s not what Matt 15:24 says, unless you really favor completely out of context interpretations, in which case you might as well believe that it says Christ commands we not give bread to dogs, just as valid as your interpretation.

  • theBCnut

    I raise my own cattle, sheep, and goats. It doesn’t take me any longer to cook meat than anything else I cook. Butchering is a whole nother story.

    And they didn’t trim off the fatty portions before cooking in the Bible. Those were the best parts. They were often set aside for sacrifice to God when the priests could take their own food from the sacrificed animals. They would be preferred cuts when people were preparing their own meat. The fatted calf was only for the most special occasions, not every day meals. Since they didn’t have refrigeration, they only killed one of their own animals when they would be using the whole carcass. Birds and fish are smaller, so easier to use the whole thing.

  • Shawna

    Hi Bill,

    I think most vets have good intentions but I agree with you that more often then not the drugs and certain recommendations given are not for me. My dad is a Naturopath and I utilize alternatives at most every turn. I am lucky too that I have three great holistic vets here in my area.

    Along with the more natural, lower carb diet I’m using turmeric, bromelain, garlic, berries as well as frankincense and copaiba essential oils to prevent new cell growth and kill the existing cancer. She is, however, a foster dog so rescue ultimately has the final say in what happens.

    Dr. Dodds is wonderful. Some other vets that advocate for less or no vaccines, alternatives like herbs and a natural diet and can easily be found online are Dr. Karen Becker (Mercola Healthy Pets website), Dr. Barbara Royal, Dr. Will Falconer, Dr. Peter Dobias, Dr. Martin Goldstein, Dr. Stephen Blake and MANY more.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Don’t take it to a Vet their horrible, they will only make it worse all they know how to do is give them drugs , run tests do surgery, just like hospitals Dr.s are terrible they also will make you worse than when you went in Mk 5 : 26[ NIV] bible . They are clueless about cause and effect , that it’s the chemicals in dog food that gave the dogs cancer .The overwhelming just want to make money not because they care so much for the animal , it’s all about money 1 Tim 6 : 10 [ NIV[ bible .
    Look at Dr. Jean Todds site a Vet , all the people who talk about how their dog is ruined by another money scheme vaccines .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    The bible is the secret or” Foundation of Nutrition” your right on, check out my blog the above title .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Whatever you do don’t take it to a Vet , and fasting is great nothing but spring water like one day a week 24hrs .And look into” herbs” for whatever type cancer it has, herbs are very biblical.

  • Shawna

    My point was more that if the right amounts and types of fats are fed the coat can look great and no shedding despite underlying health conditions. Her coat looks amazing but she still has cancer.

  • Crazy4dogs

    Ummmm, didn’t you use the literal gospel in the earlier post about feeding dogs bread? So which one is it? Literal or figurative?

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Right, it’s simple, the Jews didn’t want the gospel so the gentiles will take it . It’s 1st figurative or he meant not to give dogs [gentiles] bread , it isn’t literal that dogs can’t or don’t eat bread it was the gentiles , that shouldn’t get the gospel [ bread]1st , not real dogs or canines.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    No , when Christ said it’s not right to give the dogs bread he meant gentiles , not real dogs it’s figurative, not literal .The Jews should get the gospel 1st , not the gentiles.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Your righ,t the spiritual meaning is if the Jews don’t want or accept the gospel then it will be given or go to the gentiles “figuratively” speaking the” dogs” . But you can also glean a physical point or understanding from a lot of scripture just like this one , the gentile women said even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table , meaning the gentiles will accept or take the gospel , since the Jews don’t want it , and we learn as the women said to Christ by saying even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table that dogs ate grains or bread .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Matt 15 : 24 Niv bible .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    The comment is about people and your right about the rich could eat meat a lot , but the mass or most people poor and they had dogs too, rarely ate red meat because it was a luxury , and it took so much effort to go out kill an animal skin it, cut it up , cut the fat off etc.Just like today, would you eat a lot of red meat if you had to go out side and kill it yourself and go through the process to prepare it ?.
    And your right about fish exactly, it was so easy to catch fish and cook it , compared to going thru the process to prepare the fattened calf and eat red meat . So most people were poor and didn’t eat much red meat so neither did the domesticated dogs they owned.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Matt 15 : 24[ Niv] bible .It’s a lie dogs don’t need carbs go online study all the llnks , my dog lived on whole grains and whole milk and people said he was the healthiest dog they’d ever seen .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    It doesn’t make any sense to say the the appearance of the coat can be deceiving and then bring up that their coats looked better after you fed them real food so to speak.. Exactly, if a dog is getting enough saturated fat it’s coat will shine , in general you can tell the health of a dog by how much it sheds in the winter especially [ it shouldn’t] and how much the coat shines , very simple .
    The dogs you got were fed junkie dog food that’s why they were so sickly , right ?.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Don’t understand what you mean.

  • Hi Labs

    Thank you for the bible lesson!

  • Think about it

    Why do you think it is most truthful? Earth Island Journal no longer supports the article, and hasn’t for years. It is, after all, over 25 years old. They could have been making fertilizer.

  • LabsRawesome

    24 “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel”
    This means I was sent only to the Jews.
    25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord help me!” She said.
    She is confessing that she believes that Jesus is the son of God.
    26 He replied ” It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
    “The children” are the Jews. “The bread” is the word of God. The

  • theBCnut

    Love it!! That sounded like something Oswald Chambers would have wrote.

  • LabsRawesome

    IKR like the Bible would tell us what to feed our dogs. Hahahaha

  • Crazy4dogs

    Must be a biblical nutritionist. 😉

  • LabsRawesome

    In this story a dog refers to a sinner or unworthy person, not an actual canine. The dark corners of the country, the most remote, shall share Christ’s
    influences; afterwards the ends of the earth shall see his salvation.
    The distress and trouble of her family brought a woman to Christ; and
    though it is need that drives us to Christ, yet we shall not therefore
    be driven from him. She did not limit Christ to any particular instance
    of mercy, but mercy, mercy, is what she begged for: she pleads not
    merit, but depends upon mercy. It is the duty of parents to pray for
    their children, and to be earnest in prayer for them, especially for
    their souls. Have you a son, a daughter, grievously vexed with a proud
    devil, an unclean devil, a malicious devil, led captive by him at his
    will? this is a case more deplorable than that of bodily possession, and
    you must bring them by faith and prayer to Christ, who alone is able to
    heal them. Many methods of Christ’s providence, especially of his
    grace, in dealing with his people, which are dark and perplexing, may be
    explained by this story, which teaches that there may be love in
    Christ’s heart while there are frowns in his face; and it encourages us,
    though he seems ready to slay us, yet to trust in him. Those whom
    Christ intends most to honour, he humbles to feel their own
    unworthiness. A proud, unhumbled heart would not have borne this; but
    she turned it into an argument to support her request. The state of this
    woman is an emblem of the state of a sinner, deeply conscious of the
    misery of his soul. The least of Christ is precious to a believer, even
    the very crumbs of the Bread of life. Of all graces, faith honours
    Christ most; therefore of all graces Christ honours faith most. He cured
    her daughter. He spake, and it was done. From hence let such as seek
    help from the Lord, and receive no gracious answer, learn to turn even
    their unworthiness and discouragements into pleas for mercy.

  • LabsRawesome

    Yep. Jesus said not to give dogs grain!! 🙂

  • LabsRawesome

    I know, I was just curious as to what other dumb stuff he would post. Hahaha. 🙂

  • theBCnut

    Arsenic will make the coat shine before it kills the dog.

  • theBCnut

    I took his comment to be about people not dogs, but either way he is wrong. Eating meat, or not, didn’t have to do with the time it took to cook, but rather expense and availability. The rich could have meat at every meal, the poor could not, just like in poor areas of the world now. Oh, and fish was a common poor man’s substitute for meat. Anyone could fish. People can make the Bible say whatever they want it to. Every citation that he did supply was so far out of context as to be laughable.

  • theBCnut

    HaHaHahaha!!!!! Appropriately out of context, just like the rest of his posts. However, if we all want to interpret the Bible this way, Jesus, himself, just said it isn’t right to give dogs bread, but he didn’t contradict the woman, so dogs mopping up the floor must be a blessed by God activity, never mind that dogs are unclean beasts in that context.

  • Matthew 15:27New International Version (NIV)

    27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”

  • Shawna

    I’m guessing my direct ancestors, who came much after biblical times, didn’t read the bible, that is not the diet they ate.

    The appearance of the coat can be deceiving when it comes to the health of the pet. If they have adequate fats in the diet the coat can be quite soft, supple and shiny. My current foster do is a prime example – She came to me with a dull and stiff coat (she is a Dachshund). She also has bad teeth (they were horrible when she first came, now just bad), cancer, a huge lipoma and kidney disease (suspected – blood work scheduled but not done yet). After being with me on a better quality food her coat is amazing.

    Mine, and the fosters, all get a high meat protein raw diet – I’ve been feeding that way for over 10 years. Below is a pic of some of my own raw fed crew. I mostly foster Boston Terriers and Papillons.

  • LabsRawesome

    Dogs have zero requirement for carbs.
    Please cite the chapter book and verse.

  • theBCnut

    I don’t recall reading any thing like that in the Bible. Where did you find it?

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Shawna it’s in the bible they rarely ate meat , too much effort to prepare go thru all that for a meal , they do need carbs their great, my dog lived on whole milk and whole grains and people said he was the healthiest dog they had ever seen .
    Cats no , they just need whole milk room temp and fish .
    Bottom line you tell the health of a pet by it’s coat does it shine it will if it’s getting the proper nutrients and they shouldn’t shed very much especially in the winter .

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Excellent Renate ,” most” Vets are terrible ,arrogant, only in it for how much money they can make , 1 Tim 6 : 10 [ Niv] bible . You take your dog to a vet and they will ruin it 97% of the time , just like the medical profession Mk 5 : 26 [Niv] bible . I guarantee it, they love money , all they know how to do is give it drugs and do surgery.
    If you feed a dog” real” food chemical free it will never get sick , or need vaccines either, which are nothing but a money making scheme.

  • Bill Pickersgill

    Jami , are you kidding? ask a Vet , they simple don’t understand why dogs have health problems when it 97% from junkie dog food , there was no dog food before roughly 1970 , dogs ate what the people ate , and they lived a lot longer healthier lives than now ,since the inception of dog and cat food .
    Cancer was unheard of in dogs before dog food , this is simple reasoning ., it’s full of cancer causing chemicals and by- products .

  • Shawna

    E-coli contamination comes from exposure to feces. ANY food handled by a worker that has not washed can become contaminated. Looking at the CDC reports over the years the human foods contaminated with e-coli include

    hamburger (and other meats)
    ready to eat salads
    organic spinach and spring mix blend
    prepackaged cookie dough
    Taco Bell
    etc
    http://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/outbreaks.html

    From what I’ve read, cooking beef does not protect one from mad cow disease.
    “Does Cooking Food Kill the Prion That Causes Mad Cow Disease?

    Common methods to eliminate disease-causing organisms in food, like heat, do not affect prions. Also, prions only seem to live in nervous system tissue.” http://www.webmd.com/brain/mad-cow-disease-basics#2

  • Shawna

    I can’t guess at the diet of my ancestors of biblical times but my direct ancestors, the Cherokee Indian, ate a good deal of red meats and meat in general and not much in the form of grain (except corn). However, from pictures showing tri-color corn, I have to assume the corn they ate was quite different from the genetically modified corn of today.

    My grandparent’s (not so long ago) farm dogs did get scraps from the table but they also hunted. As far as my grandparents (or actually more likely my great grandparents) they did not consume grains like we do today. In order to make grains more nutritious they fermented, sprouted or long soaked their grains – practices we have unfortunately lost in modern day.