Canned or Dry Dog Food — What’s the Better Choice?

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Ever wondered what’s better? A canned dog food — or a kibble? For me, it took a trip away from home and a call from the kennel attendant that finally helped me solve that riddle.

Dry Dog Food in a Bowl

“Bailey hasn’t eaten a bite in two whole days,” she advised. “What would you like us to do?

We had gone away for the holidays and had no choice but to leave our little guy with the vet.

And now we were worried.

Bailey’s recent favorite — a chicken and rice kibble — had been brought along with him to the kennel. But now he didn’t want any part of it.

When I asked the aide if she had any suggestions, she quickly replied…

“Why don’t you let me try something. It almost always works, especially with our finicky dogs who refuse to eat.”

When I called back a few hours later I was relieved to find out Bailey had “gobbled up every bit of it… and even licked the bowl”.

Want to know what “it” was?

An Overlooked Dog Food Option

Canned dog food. That was it. Bailey wouldn’t eat the kibble. But he sure did love that wet food.

So, I decided to learn more about canned dog food. I knew Bailey liked it. And he liked it a lot more than he liked kibble.

But I had to be sure if it was OK for him to eat. After all, I’d always heard that canned dog food wasn’t as good for dogs as kibble.

Why Canned Dog Food
Can Be Better Than Kibble

In many ways, canned dog food can be superior to kibble. They typically contain more meat protein than their dry counterparts.

And they’re made with fewer carbohydrates, too.1

can-vs-dry-nutrient-contentPlus, due to their air-tight packaging, canned dog foods contain no synthetic preservatives. So, fats and oils sealed inside cans don’t easily become rancid.

And no artificial flavorings and colorings.

With cans, meat ingredients are closer to their natural state. So, canned products are more palatable — and more appetizing.

Help for Dogs with Dietary Problems

Have an overweight dog that needs to lose weight?

The moisture content of canned dog food can make the same amount of nutrients (on a dry matter basis) occupy more volume. So, your dieting dog can feel fuller — faster.

And what about older dogs?

Seniors are frequently afflicted with chronic dental problems that can make chewing dry kibble difficult — even painful. So, canned dog food can be the perfect solution.

The Truth About Dog Food
and Dental Health

Now, I know it looks like I’ve forgotten to mention how kibble can be better for your dog’s teeth than canned food.

But my own professional background makes that silly rumor difficult to accept.

Find out for yourself.  Be sure to read “Dry Dog Food and the Myth of Cleaner Teeth” to learn the surprising truth.

So, Which Is Better — Canned or Dry?

To help answer that question, take a look at this table…

canned-vs-dry-foodFrom this chart it seems like canned dog food might be a better choice.  But looks can be deceiving.

Where Kibble Wins

Now, when it comes to convenience, nothing beats kibble. Plus if you’re on a budget (and who isn’t these days) a quality dry dog food is almost always a better buy.

But one important warning…

Never leave any canned food in your dog’s bowl for more than an hour or two. Unlike kibble, wet foods exposed to the environment can easily grow bacteria — and quickly become contaminated.

Of course, every open can must be kept refrigerated. Be sure to discard any unused dog food within two to three days.

Why You Should Consider Both

Now, I hope you don’t think I’m recommending canned food over kibble — because I’m not.

There are times when feeding either one or the other may be the better choice for you or your dog. However, there are also times when mixing the two together — a feeding method known as topping — makes an especially tasty choice.

Footnotes

  1. National Research Council, National Academy of Science, “Nutrient Requirements of Dogs and Cats”, 2006 Edition, National Academies Press, Washington, DC, p 317
  • Crazy4cats

    Hi All-

    I found this article on a cat website, but it also addresses dog’s diets. I found it interesting and confirming many of the articles and opinions expressed on this site. http://www.littlebigcat.com/nutrition/why-dry-food-is-bad-for-cats-and-dogs/

  • Emma

    Hi there, something you should get your vet to look into is Shakey Dog Syndrome (yes it’s a real thing!). It is a rare neurological disorder that commonly affects small dogs. My west highland terrier was diagnosed with it after presenting the same problems as you have written above. The vet prescribed cortisone tablets and he has not shaken since. Please get it checked out ASAP because the tremors are actually painful for the dogs and that may be why he is acting timid. Let me know how you go!

  • S.Y.K

    I’ve had my dog for about 6months now and she hates kibbles. Only way she eats kibbles is if I drip some can food liquid on it like a chocolate syrup on my ice cream… lol I’ve only bought 5 star dry food from this website but doesn’t matter to her. She just doesn’t like it.
    Recently I switched to a famous dehydrated dog food brand, she she hates it too. I have to spoon-feed her everytime and it’s still so hard to make her finish her portion.

    My logic is that she wouldn’t eat anything that she feels like it’s not good for herself.
    I’m thinking of feeding her only 5 star rated can food but not sure if it’d be enough nutrient for her.
    Every can food I looked at says 8% crude protein which isn’t any close to what the original post says.

    She’s a 6-7lb chihuahua.

  • InkedMarie

    Do you feed raw, cooked, dehydrated or canned?

  • Crazy4cats

    Hmmm… I’ve never noticed my dog’s breath smelling bad after eating canned food. I guess it depends on what type you buy? I agree, chewing bones is helpful to keep their teeth clean, but I would never give mine rawhide. You are lucky, your dogs must have come from good stock!

  • kiljoy616

    Ad olive oil to the wet food, they love it. Also don’t overfeed your dogs, people use to dry food over feed their dogs and waste money. Our Cane eats 3 cans a day, he weighs in at 190 pound of muscle and teeth. Never had any problems with his weight or teeth and has always been on soft. He is now 9 years old and still loves going hiking with us. Would not feed him anything else than soft, life is to short for some cereal diet.

  • kiljoy616

    I think dogs can handle meat even if its not specifically made for them. Dogs are not porcelain dolls.

  • kiljoy616

    Never wasted money on dry food. Dry to me is not a good way for an animal that is so important in my life and is trained to protect our family to be treated. Dry is just bulk and cheap and what American is not addicted to cheap. Considering how old all my dogs have lived and with little health problems, I am not going to change over to save a few dollars. If dog food is expensive to some, maybe they need to lay off the expensive food and put a few more dollars to the 4 legged family member.

  • ibelievein3

    Honestly, I hate the way my dog’s breath smells when they eat canned dog food. Also, as long as they chew rawhide or bones, I have had dogs live 12-15 years on only dry kibble and they never needed vet tooth cleaning or home tooth brushing.

  • Pattyvaughn

    There is nothing in cat food that healthy dogs can not handle. It may have higher protein and higher fat, but healthy dogs can handle that. The only thing that cat food has that dog food does not commonly have is taurine, and they are starting to find that some dogs do need it too, so better dog food companies are starting to add it to dog food too.

  • Crazy4cats

    In my opinion, cat food isn’t extremely bad for dogs. It typically is higher in fat and calories, however. So if the dog has issues with digesting fat or they are overweight it could be a big problem. It is also more expensive, so would be a lot more cost effective to buy canned dog food for them.

  • rebecca

    Cat food is extremely bad for dogs! I would keep the dog far away from cat food!

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  • lyn

    I have always given both wet and dry for breakfast and he loves it. Then he has a tooth treat after lunch and then a small snack before bed

  • Janice

    I just had to move back in with my parents who feed all their cats wet food and my dog only got dry food but she’s loving licking up after all the cat food and isn’t eating her dry food as much. So now I guess I have to go buy her canned food. :-)

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  • Katt92656

    Ceasers its not cheap but I am sure its cheaper than the food from your vets…

  • Noni Sullivan

    2 of my 4 dogs refuse to eat kibble and i have tried every kind. They are costing me a fortune in canned food. I have let them go for 2 days without eating but I cave in because they look so sad. I have always mixed wet food with kibble and never had this problem before. I also add boiled boneless chicken breasts to their food. They are 3 & 4 years old and have good teeth. One is a Shitzu and the other a small terrier/poodle mix.

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  • Pattyvaughn

    This is very interesting! I have friends that have a maltese that has the same type of behavior, but they have never tried changing her food. I’m going to suggest it to them.

  • Finn’s Mom

    I have a maltese who has had intermittent “shakes” (not seizures) for 5 years. I had him worked up for liver shunt and Addison’s, lots of blood work — nothing definitive. As he got older these episodes became more common until they occurred several times a day. I noticed his gut sounded hyperactive and both the vet and I wondered if he had stomach issues. He seemed to be digesting the kibble he was getting beautifully. When he was a puppy he was on Innova/Evo kibble, but had bouts of constipation and loose poop, so switched to Blue Buffalo with great results. However, the shakes, which look like tremors and had him acting timid, continued. Vet gave me Iams special diet kibble. After reading the ingredients and checking it out online, I could not feed him that low grade food. So I tried switching him to canned food. He missed the kibble for a little bit, but has taken to it now. Since making the switch we have not witnessed one episode of shaking. This is exciting and sad — I could have done this 5 years ago! I am not sure what is going on with him, but clearly the kibble must be harder for him to digest. I am sold on canned dog food. Currently feeding him Blue Buffalo. Miss the convenience of kibble, but it is a joy not to see my sweet little dog in distress every day.

  • Bayley G

    Hello,
    Would you mind sharing which kind of food you found that is comparable to the one suggested by your vet? I’m currently in the process of switching my terrier to an all-wet food diet due to some jaw problems, and the overpriced chicken and rice combo from the vet seems to be his favourite so far. I would love to find a substitute that is a bit more affordable!
    Thank you!

  • butchroy

    Frankthedog, I think you are doing wonderfully for your dog. The dry food for the teeth is a myth that a lot of vets still believe. When it was told to me how can dry food for the teeth be true, we humans eat hard foods and does it clean our teeth! No, it cakes all over them! A dog does not even chew up the dry enough to make the claim it cleans teeth. I am not the expert here, but I have learned that if you cannot make your own food, then quality canned is the next best step. I agree with how you are feeding your pet. Good luck!

  • Pattyvaughn

    The high percentages are because the numbers are converted to Dry Matter Basis. That is to say, if all water is removed, that is how much protein, fat, and carbs is left. The 9% on the can is still including the water.

  • Emily

    I’m confused because most of the quality canned food I’ve looked at does NOT have these high protein percentages. We feed 4Health dry, but my sister feeds her dogs 4Health wet. The protein in the wet is only 9%. That is not reflected in this assessment.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Since meat is about 80% water, that would only be giving your dog 5% of his diet in meat protein. That is extremely low. Dogs need meat proteins for many important bodily functions such as tissue repair. You may be prematurely aging your pet.

  • CR46

    Have you tried making your own? 25% meat, and the rest rice and vegetables. I make a basic stew for my dogs. That way you know what your dog is eating.

  • Ashley

    my american pit has allergies to chicken, wheat, soy, corn, all that. we have her on dick van pattons natural balance. Cleared all allergies and she loves it. Venison, Bison, Salmon, and we may try duck! Several flavors so they dont get tired of the one flavor!

  • Meg S

    My dog (maltipoo) has had a history of vomiting from an upset stomach for the longest time… We couldn’t figure out what it was just kept changing his food. But no such luck.
    The vet told me he has a food sensitivity and advised me to look into different types of proteins. Beef, chicken and lamb are the most popular, and I’m pretty sure my pooch has had all 3 at one point. Right now he’s on a salmon and potato dog food from Blue Buffalo (dry), and he loves it! I’ve never given my dog wet food before, but I’m considering combining both into small portions (he’s also on a diet :) ). I hope this helps!

  • Pooroakley

    I have an American Bulldog that I think is allergic to wheat, corn and possibly chicken. I am finding it hard to find a good food for her.. Any suggestions? Is wet food a better option??

  • Frankthedog

    Wow, thank you! Finally somebody said it.

    I have a Westie cross who has terrible stomach problems as a puppy (this is a common problem for the breed). He has always disliked dry food to the extent that he hardly used to eat – he would go for days without food. Every time he got sick the vet would have to put him on expensive canned wet food (chicken and rice) so I did my research and found a cheaper brand which had almost exactly the same content breakdown. Since I’ve been feeding Frank wet food he has a healthy appetite and his poops are good quality and compact. I watch so many dogs in the park with poor quality poop struggling and suffering from the runs. When I know an owner well enough to ask the question I find they they are always on dry food.

    I know the vet advises dry food for a dog’s teeth and that’s a great point but I’m sick of people giving me funny looks when I tell them I believe in wet food. If a dog doesn’t want to eat the dry food use your common sense, they are telling you something’s wrong “I’m hungry but I won’t eat that”. That goes against every natural instinct a dog has.

    I’m not anti dry food, and I don’t think wet food is perfect but a good quality wet food is certainly closer to a dogs natural diet (if there is such a thing) and without having to buy into loads of over priced hokus pokus my dog is far healthier.

    It’s a well known fact that the pet food industry sponsors vet surgeries and the university degrees they study so it would only be natural for a vet to be supportive of dry food. That’s not to say that they are wrong of course, just that we should all think a little longer about it and use our own common sense.

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  • Hound Dog Mom

    If you’re saying that your dog requires 150 g. of kibble per day you would weight the kibble prior to adding the water.

  • Pattyvaughn

    There is nothing wrong with adding fresh foods to your dogs meals, in fact they can add back some of the things kibble is missing. When you cook a chicken consider giving your dog the raw neck and giblets, same with turkey. Adding an egg to his food is good too, leave it raw sometimes. A little piece of fish or a sardine or two is great. One of my BCs only used to eat about every third meal, since I started adding a little bit of extras and rotating his dry food, he never misses a meal.

  • CHLOEBEAR

    I have been feeding my border collie his name is bundy he is 8 years old we give him dry food night /day and some times he has scraps rice and pasta he loves it and he is going just right
    dosent eat some times thankyou

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Bonnie -

    As a general rule, 1 large can of wet food (~13 oz.) has roughly the same amount of calories as 1 C. kibble. If you wanted to give him a can a day I would reduce his kibble to 2 C. per day – so 1 C. kibble + 1/2 can in the a.m. and 1 C. kibble + 1/2 can in the p.m. Monitor his weight and adjust portions accordingly.

  • Bonnie

    I have been feeding my Labrador retriever blue buffalo wilderness, I feed him 1 cup in the morning and 2 cups at night, I just ordered a couple cases of bbw wet food to start feeding him, and want to mix it but am not sure how much to mix of each, lower the dry amount and give wet? , how much wet to the dry?

  • InkedMarie

    Thanks for saving me some typing LOL. I think people don’t realize what you said above.

  • Storm’s Mom

    There is very little beef, lamb, salmon, etc in any of the Blue Buffalo formulae. It’s basically all chicken meal and potato (or chicken meal and grains/rice). That is because when an ingredient is listed as just “beef” on the label, it is listed as the ingredient WITH water/moisture. Ingredients must be listed by weight on a label, heaviest first, etc before processing. BUT beef, chicken, salmon, etc is roughly 80% water, so when the water content is taken out of the ingredient – which MUST happen in order for it to be put it into kibble form – you’re actually only left with 20% of the original mass of the ingredient. Therefore, the ingredient would likely be listed far down the ingredient list if it were listed as a “dry matter” ingredient like, for example, chicken meal. Chicken meal is chicken which has already had the water processed out of it before processing, and yes, it is much higher in protein than just chicken. That’s what Blue Buffalo products/labels are soooooooooo misleading. It’s actually not really a Salmon recipe or a Duck recipe.. it’s a chicken meal recipe with a tiny little bit of salmon or duck.

  • Jo Epperson

    Actually, meal is higher in protein than just chicken. There is beef, lamb, chicken, turkey, and salmon flavors. Their protein is always one of these…the salmon is very fragrant!

  • Storm’s Mom

    Yeah, I wouldn’t say that Blue Buffalo has a “variety in flavors”!!! My guy’s allergic to chicken – one ingredient – so he can’t have ANY of the Blue Buffalo Wildnerness or Freedom formulae (and I think only a couple of the remaining Basics formulae. I think even all the Life Protection formulae have chicken meal in them. That’s not “variety in flavors”.

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    One drawback of BBW is they all have chicken meal as the main ingredient and you only get a little bit of the other animal ingredient like duck or salmon.

  • Jo Epperson

    I’ve used Buffalo Blue for yrs and have had not one problem. There is variety in flavors w/kibble and canned!

  • Shawna

    All of my foster puppies eat the same rotational diet as my adult foster dogs — same exact foods. I haven’t had a puppy yet have an issue with rotation after the initial switch.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I love Dr. Dodds. Great article, thanks for posting!

  • HealthyDogs

    Dr. Dodds’ Blog recently had an excellent article about this

    http://drjeandoddspethealthresource.tumblr.com/post/53858347318/pet-food-transitioning

  • Hound Dog Mom

    “Dogs have different digestive systems and cannot handle changes in their food like humans.”

    This is not true at all. Dogs that can’t handle changes in diet are unhealthy. Owners create this issue by feeding the same food for extended periods of time. My dogs eat something completely different at each meal with no issues. While I do agree that a puppy’s digestive system is usually more sensitive than an adult dog’s, I think it’s important to introduce puppies to changes in diet at a young age. In my experience, healthy puppies don’t have issues switching foods. None of my puppies were continued on the food the breeder was feeding and all were started on a rotational diet immediately upon coming home at 8 weeks and none experienced digestive upset.

  • SiberianHuskyLover

    I am in the waiting process for buying a new puppy from a breeder. It is important that you started feeding your puppy what the breeders had them on, but if you want to switch foods you much do it gradually, not all at once. Dogs have different digestive systems and cannot handle changes in their food like humans. This is probably a large cause for the diarrhea, also puppies DO tend to have diarrhea when they first switch homes due to the stress of the move and being in a new environment, especially a 3 day trip! Give it some time since you already switched their food, if the problem persists, you may need to take them to the vet…That’s the problem with buying from long distance breeders is you can’t see their environment or know exactly how they cared for them to know if there may be something wrong with the way they were caring for the puppies.

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  • Pattyvaughn

    I have known 1 single person who had a dog that couldn’t handle having foods mixed, but by far most dogs can handle it just fine.
    Just remember that when you are adding things to the diet that are not balanced, they need to be no more than 20% of the diet. Good things to add are meats to boost protein, little amounts of fruits and veggies that are rich sources of antioxidants, and things like seaweed/algae that have micronutrients that aren’t added back into most dog foods.
    I have Border Collies, so I would say that if your pup is a high energy puppy then, yes, it’s more tiring!

  • joelle heng

    Thanks for replying.

    yes! i was thinking abt how thirsty i would be if i could only drink water twice a day!

    So the plan is to mix kibble and canned food and occasionally mix in with real food( Minced chicken etc). Am I right? Or would it mess up their digestive system because different type of food takes a diff amt of time to metabolize. My other dogs have all been so easy(or maybe i have forgotten how tiring it is taking care of a pup)…come this lil girl and i feel like a full time mother fussing over everything haha.

  • Pattyvaughn

    The thing about only giving water twice a day is a bad practice that some ignorant people use to make housetraining easier. It is not healthy for the puppy. If your pup gets picky when you try to transition, just let the food soak up the water until it is mushy and mash it together. You can add a little canned to this to make it smell better, just make sure it is mashed in to so there is no sorting. Don’t add the probiotics until right before you feed or they will not do any good.

  • joelle heng

    Hi,
    I just bought a siberian husky puppy and the breeder was feeding it Royal canin which I have read is not fantastic.

    I was thinking of mixing in a new brand of kibble to slowly transit to the said new brand but now that I read all these comments about mixing wet food, im quite confused bcoz im pretty sure my dog is gonna start being picky and eat ONLY the wet food and ignore the kibble.( I had/have other dogs and im determined to not let this pup be another fussy little bugger)

    How do you suggest I overcome this ?

    I currently feed my pup 3 times(1/2-3/4 cup each time) a day.. i add prebiotics powder(3 shakes..thats what the instructions said) with 1/4-1/2 cup of water added to her kibble. She loves it but im not sure if thats if its bcoz its the only type of food shes been introduced! Man, Im living in taiwan at the moment and its soooo hard to tell if these breeders r trying to cheat me! they told me to only feed water twice a day but its summer at the moment so i try to give my pup water after she eats and after our play session.

  • Caroline

    We just adopted 2 great dane/cur mix pups that are 7 weeks old from Tennessee, they have both had diarrhea since arriving at our house on the 20th. One of them acts as though he is coughing up a hairball, sometimes food will come up and sometimes it doesn’t. Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do? We were told they were eating moistened pedigree puppy food, which is what we started giving them when they got here, yesterday we switched to Taste of the Wild. We have tried canned pumpkin which worked the first time but has not worked after that, we also tried giving them a little cheese. They were in a car for 3 days to be delivered. Could it be the stress of the long car ride and the excitement from them not being used to being around young kids? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you

  • InkedMarie

    Wet food is better than dry so no need to switch. Feeding amount is on the can; start there and judge by your dogs condition.

  • Eugene Otsuka

    My puppy refuses to eat any dry food but she gobbles up wet food. I try to use the wet food as a topping but to no avail. How should I go about this? Also, I was wondering how much I should be feeding a 5lb puppy in a day.

    Thanks!

  • Donna

    Thank you

  • Pattyvaughn

    Absolutely!! IMO, it is better to mix brands. Within a brand they may use the same vitamin premix in all formulas, so by combining brands or switching brands, you are more likely to get a different set of micronutrients and different levels of different nutrients, which to my way of thinking can only be a good thing.

  • Donna

    I just recently switched my Bassets to Variety canned food but want to add a little dry food to it but Variety just starting making a dry and its hard to find. Would it okay to mix the Variety brand can food with a different brand dry food?

  • teachergirltoo

    Because I had always fed mine dry I had a terrible time introducing some wet food into their diet. They turned up their noses at everything I brought home. Then I found Lean Cuts. The green can that only has three ingredients: beef chunks and chicken, and vegetable gum. It is not a balanced food because there are so few ingredients, but they get Acana kibble too. Anyway, I microwaved it for 20 seconds to make it warm, and wallah! they loved it. Now they get nice little blob for breakfast in the morning along with their kibble, and can hardly wait for the fridge to open. Someone told me it is sold at Costco too.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Try NutriSource. It’s close to the same price, a much better quality, you’ll feed less, and it is usually easy for dogs to switch to.

  • Storm’s Mom

    Just about anything is better than Pedigree and Iams!! Sorry, I hate to say it and I hope I don’t sound rude. But just click on the “Best Dog Foods” link at the top left of this page, and you’ll find a whole whack of MUCH better foods. As to which one is best for your dog, you’ll just have to try some..every dog is different. Good luck!

  • Paul Hough

    Thank you, What is better than pedigree and iams?

  • Paul Hough

    Thanks for your advice, that makes sense, I was told wet does t usually agree with their stomach. what foods are better than pedigree and iams?

  • Crazy4cats

    Also, plain pure canned pumpkin helps by adding some fiber. In addition, I also use organic no sugar added applesauce to my dogs food periodically to help with loose stools. I think it is the pectin in it that also helps with firming up the poop. Good luck!

  • losul

    I can’t imagine why everyone would tell you that. Wet foods are much more natural, and dry foods have to be turned into wet in the dogs stomach anyway before digestion process can begin. At least some wet foods (the less processed forms the better) in the diet is way better than kibble (the least desireable form of dog food) by itself, IMO.

    Like Patty, I think a mixture is fine, if that’s what you want to do, along with a good variety, although you could consider upgrading from pedigree and Iams.

    Kangals are cool dogs. Here is a pup eating yogurt.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kangal_dog_puppy_eating_yoghurt.jpg

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I agree with Dave – most dogs love canned food and digest it well. Canned food is also much more species-appropriate than dry food due to the high moisture content and higher levels of protein and fat. Like Dave, three of my favorite canned foods are Nature’s Logic, ZiwiPeak and Nature’s Variety. I also really like Tripett (Tripett is just a topper, not a complete food but picky dogs love it) and Addiction.

  • Dave’s Hounds

    In my opinion you can’t go wrong with a high quality canned. You will be feeding a better product. Take a look at the 5 star canned. I feed Natures Variety Instinct, Nature’s Logic, and Ziwipeak. I have also had a lot of success with freeze dried like Grandma Lucy’s Pureformance where you rehydrate with warm water – wait 5 minutes and feed. The food actually smells great.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Feeding a mix of wet and dry is fine. Please consider switching up what foods you are using, feeding a variety of foods helps to make sure all your nutritional bases are covered.

  • Charlene

    I buy my kibble at a locally owned pet store and have gotten to know the owners well in the 9 plus years we’ve had our Airedale. She’s been on a quality lamb and rice kibble for about 4 years and now refuses to eat it (I guess I would get sick of the same food every day too). So I am mixing another brand with it and she’s eating fine but her stools are loose. John the dog store owner says to try canned food. I wonder if her digestive system will like that? Anyone have any experience?

  • LawofRaw

    Hi justina,

    What pet food product are you interested in importing? Are you familiar with your own customs importation laws? Are you wanting to import in bulk for selling purposes or import just because you don’t have a particular product available, locally?

    I’m just throwing out some questions for you, that if you haven’t already considered, you may want to. As far as wanting to find out how the exporting of the product(s) you want, can happen, you could check out the products’ company’s respective websites and make your inquiry via their ‘Contact Us’ page.

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  • Paul Hough

    I’ve just got a kangal puppy (12 weeks) I believe he may be cross bred but not sure, everyone tells me wet food is bad for a ogs stomach and dry food is better, is this the case?
    I’m currently feeding him half canned puppy pedigree and half iams dry food is this ok?

  • Pattyvaughn

    Just like most people can handle a variety of different types of food in our stomach at the same time, most dogs can too. The biggest issue is when a dog is used to eating only one thing long term and then something else is introduced, that can cause an upset. Your dog is used to your feeding routine, so obviously it isn’t causing any problems. I’d rather see a dog eating a variety of different foods, but at her age, changing things up may not be easy.

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    There’s lots of interesting reads here! Swansonvitamins(dot)com sometimes has probiotics on sale buy 1, get 1 free.

  • Ms. Sam Haddock

    I have an affenpincher, Millie, and I feed her half cup of canned in the morning and half a cup of dry (Iams) at evening. I brush her teeth at least 3 x a week. My vet can’t get over that she is so healthy, no joint pain or abdominal distress, and she will be 14 this year. I do give her probiotics (acidophilus) 3 x a week as well. She poops a little “cigar” twice a day like clockwork. I have never had any questions before but a friend told me that dry OR moist, but that I was screwing with Millie’s digestive system and hence the reason for my dog food search.

    I’m so glad to read all the opinions here, and I’m very comfortable with keeping Millie on the same regime. I know in the past I wasn’t so attentive to previous pets…..as far as diet goes, all were well cared for and very loved and I basically let the kids take care of training them. Now kids are grown and gone and I have come to cherish my little friend…..Oh hell! She’s my kid now. Y’all know what I mean. Will be interesting to come back and read up on other topics. Thanks for an interesting read.

  • Cindy

    janel, please listen to HDM in this post on balancing meals.

  • Cindy

    janel,

    One of my basic books: Strombeck’s Home Prepared Dog and Cat Diets (1999, not the most recent revised, which contains some major errors)

    I do believe that balanced homemade diets, with attention to the best ingredients and variety, are ideal.

    At the same time, when you say that your 2 dogs don’t like/refuse to eat kibble and canned, my first thought is that the problem is more likely than not the particular kibble/canned you’re feeding, not ALL kibble itself.

    It’s compounded if you give tasty scraps from what you’re eating WHILE you’re eating, if your dog’s food isn’t very appealing. Other problems can occur with *how* you feed.

    Which brands/formulas have you tried?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi janel –

    First off, you need to invest in a recipe book if you’re going to be making homemade meals – this is very unbalanced.

    Second, I would highly suggest trying to incorporate more foods than just chicken. For now though, for each pound of chicken add a crushed human multi-vitamin (without calcium or with less than 5% DV calcium), a finely crushed eggshell, 1 tsp. flax oil, 1 tsp. fish oil and 1 tbs. metamucil. Do not feed cooked chicken bones ever. If you are willing to feed raw chicken bones you could feed chicken wings or necks (good for small dogs) with a little boneless chicken (2 parts bone in to 1 part boneless), omit the eggshell and give the supplements separately.

    Also – have you ever tried Tripett (canned green tripe)? You could try mixing some of this with a balanced canned or dry dog food – very few dogs with turn their nose up to green tripe.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1140685339 Betsy Greer

    So, you’ve been feeding one just chicken muscle meat and the other eats a little muscle meat, but mostly chicken bones?

  • janel alba

    Hi ! I have a japanese spitz and a terrier ! The spizt does not like canned food or dry food, so we just feed him chicken ! And the terrier doesn’t eat the canned or dry food either she doesn’t eat much chicken but just the bones,we stop feeding the bones as she started coughing ! And she doesn’t like the chicken flesh just the bones! Please help! What should I feed them ! The vet said canned but they aren’t eating ! I feel so sad for them, its like they will only eat when they are starved :(

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Lisa –

    Try Tripett – take a few spoonfuls and mash it up with some water to make a “gravy” and mix it in with her kibble to make sure it’s all coated. Tripett is canned green tripe – it’s not a balanced food so you can’t use it as a complete diet but it’s good to mix in with whatever you feed. It has a very strong smell and most dogs go absolutely nuts for it. If you can’t find it in stores, websites like Wag.com and Petflow.com sell it and they offer free shipping.

  • Lisa

    I have that same problem with boxer who has always been a fussy eater since she was 7 weeks old and now she is six even when I open up a fresh wet can she smells it and walks away I really don’t know how to get her to eat she will eat but on her turns . I feed her wellness simple solutions turkey and potato dry and wet mix in. I give her more wet and less dry and she still smells the food and walks away from her bowl and at times she will just nick pick and take a few bites and walk away . I will not feed her that crap dog food because of her allergies and sensitive tummy any suggestions? I don’t give her any table sraps or any treats due her tummy issues and certain ingredients wil bother my boxer like corn, by products and grains are not boxer friendly Help

  • Strey

    thank you! :)

  • Strey

    Thanks :)

  • Pattyvaughn

    I use canned to boost protein and reduce overall carbs so I go for the canned foods that are high protein, low carb.

  • sandy

    I usually don’t try to compliment the protein/fat/carbs but focus on total calories since I have small indoor dogs. I use Wellness Stews, Core, Merrick, Weruva and Addiction. Fromm also has good canned foods. The Kirkland Cuts n Gravy canned food is supposed to be only $1 per can. Only available at Costco.

  • Strey

    I have a question. When mixing Wet and dry food should you consider the Protein, fat, and carbs in both of them? So that they can compliment each other? I dont know if i make sense xD Im going to start feeding my dog Fromm Gold which is grain based , so should i mix it with a high protein wet food? suggestions?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    To get the actual protein percentage in a canned food subtract the % moisture from 100% to obtain the % dry matter. Then divide the as fed protein % by the % dry matter and multiply by 100.

    For example -

    EVO Chicken & Turkey Dry formula states 42% protein and 10% moisture. So the actual level of protein is 100% – 10% = 90%. 42%/90% = 0.47 X 100 = 47%.

    EVO Chicken & Turkey Wet formula states 12% protein and 78% moisture. So the actual level of protein is 100% – 78% = 22%. 12%/22% = 0.55 X 100 = 55%

    :Luckily Dr. Mike does these calculations for everyone. :)

    It’s also healthier for dogs to consume foods rich in moisture – dogs, by nature, are meant to derive a large percentage of their daily water intake through their food. Not to mention canned foods are much less processed than dry foods.

  • Pattyvaughn

    The huge difference is in the amount of water in the food. The only fair way to compare dog foods is on a dry matter basis, in other words, compare them without water. If you take the water out of kibble the guaranteed analysis changes very little because it is already almost dry. Most kibbles are 30% or more carbohydrates because kibble is a bakery product and has to have a carb source to hold it together. If you take the water out of most canned food, you will find the numbers to be very different. The carbs will be much lower and the protein much higher. Dr Mike did all the work on his dashboard displays. He shows the food’s info on a dry matter basis. So look at the foods you are interested in here to find what their DMB is and then compare.

  • Confused

    Even if you feed everyday? I’m confused with reading the labels of canned food. Specifically – the protein listed on the cans is significantly lower than the protein listed on the site. For example: Merrick’s Whole Earth Farms Adult Formula lists 9% on the can for protein, but on this site it’s estimated to have 41%.

    This is why I never switched my dog to canned food. The protein seemed too low. Now it seems like the protein is very high?

    Can you please explain this huge difference in protein percentages?

  • http://usajerkytreats.com/ James Bailey, USA Jerky Treats

    I would look into homemade meals which by far are the healthiest possible way to feed your dog.

    Steve Brown wrote a good book to introduce people to homemade meals: “See Spot Live Longer”

    Canned foods have a whole set of dangers you should be aware of before you go that route. Just type “The dangers of canned foods” into your search engine and see for yourself what they are!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi boxerMom –

    Canned food is much healthier than dry dog food. Canned food is more species-appropriate due to the higher moisture content and higher protein content. If you’re feeding a good quality 4 or 5 star canned food your dog will be much better off than on a dry food.

  • boxerMom

    I have a Boxer that seems to have occasional problems swallowing her dry dog food. One time she would have choked to death if I hadn’t been home. I did the himleck(SP?) maneuver on her and out popped a piece of dog food. I switched from that dog food to a different shape and brand, but she still has occasional issues. Now i’m thinking about canned dog food but I want good nutrition for her. Is there any other Boxer owners that have this same problem?

  • hayley

    Yes you are. Always feed my dogs with canned or people (beef, chicken) leftovers mixed with dry. They are healthy and I dont go to a vet. Shots are given thru Animal Control for 1/4th the cost (no vet needed).

  • Renee

    My Yorkie is THRIVING on her canned food- California natural and it is complete and balanced just like you mentioned. She will snack on kibble at night- she likes a few kibbles before bed. There is a MAJOR difference in her behavior while eating canned food as opposed to kibble. Which is a great food-(wellness). She digests the canned food easier and she has much more energy! Btw- stools are perfect. She loves canned food!

  • Hound Dog Mom

    BTW – that’s got to be a pretty neat looking dog. I’ve heard of Bandogges (mastiff X american bulldog), but never a mastiff X english bulldog.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Suzanne –

    A quality wet food is much healthier than dry food. Wet food is typically higher in moisture and protein and lower in carbohdyrates than dry food making it more species-appropriate. Most healthy dogs can switch foods with no or only minimal digestive upset. However, if your dog has been eating the same food for a long time you may want to switch gradually – mix the canned and dry for a week or so then start feeding completely canned. A spoonful of plain canned pumpkin and probiotics and help digestive issues during a food change as well.

  • http://www.facebook.com/suzanne.evens.3 Suzanne Evens

    I have a half english bulldog and half red mastiff and she normally eats dry food. Would it be fine to just switch over to wet food or would that mess with her stomach?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi cursiousone –

    Canned food is much more species-appropriate than dry food – it has a higher moisture content and is typically much higher in protein and lower in carbohydrates than dry food. If you can feed your dog all canned, it’s preferable to feeding all dry. If you can’t feed all canned, mixing canned into the dry will help to boost the quality of the dry food.

  • cursiousone

    Its it good to feed my dog dry food and wet food? Anyone know?

  • Bob

    I mix Tripett canned dog food (5-star rating by Dog Food Advisor) with dry dog food for my dog. Works great.

  • Dave

    I have a Maltese Shih tzu mix and he is definitely a fussy little bugger. I started out with dry food and found it cost MORE because the little runt just wouldn’t eat it. Then I switched to the canned and even then he was particular on the brand and varieties. So I started mixing the two together and found that he likes the blend just fine. He’s extremely active and his weight has stayed constant for the last 2 years. So don’t worry about mixing both together, and my vet says he’s one of the healthiest dogs he’s ever seen. Now if I could just get him to slow down once in a while,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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  • Pattyvaughn

    Read more Jay. Read a lot more, including the labels on canned foods.

  • Shawna

    Hi Jay,
    The analysis of kibble is determined on a “dry matter basis”. Canned foods have to be converted to dry matter basis if wanting to compare the nutrient analysis to dry foods. Once converted to dry matter basis, canned foods almost always have a better nutrient profile than most kibbled foods.

    Kibble does remove debris from the lower parts of the tooth but it breaks apart before reaching the gum line where tartar and plaque are the real enemy (unless formulated to not do so – such as some prescription foods). Not to mention that many dogs don’t “chew” kibble but rather swollow it whole or crunch once.

    Mixing kibble and canned is NOT bad for the GI system. That’s just nonsence. Anyone who says that needs to study how food is digested. When food is eaten enzymes start to break it down. As food becomes “chyme” it is released and moves on down the digestive tract while food not yet ready stays to digest further.

    Canned food actually digests better than kibble because the stomach needs moisture (water) in order for appropriate amounts of hydrochloric acid to be released. The hydrochloric acid then activates the enzyme pepsin which begins digestion of protein in the food. Because of this, it is likely that the protein in kibbled foods are not as well digested as that in canned foods.

    Another reason canned digests better is that the enzymes that break down food have to slowly work at the little ball of food to get at the type of food (carb, fat or protein) that they digest. In a canned food the individual enzymes can start working on what they digest much quicker (if not immediately).

    Yes, some canned foods are not complete and balanced but MANY are. Those that are can be fed exclusively.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jack.tripper.3950 Jack Tripper
  • http://www.facebook.com/jack.tripper.3950 Jack Tripper

    he is referring to dry matter basis with the nutritional numbers, obviously. canned food is like 80% water, 10% protein, 5% fat, 5% carbs (approximately). that’s not a bad thing, that’s just how real food comes. kibble is dehydrated so it only has around 10% moisture. obviously his background and experience is not based on a single call from a kennel, he has read and researched hundreds of books, articles and websites and published thousands of reviews.

  • InkedMarie

    Jay, to be blunt, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  • Jay

    Are you insane? Your so full if it. Look at the analysis on the cans! The values are far less! It’s not a myth kibble keeps teeth clean either, that much is common sense. It’s also bad in the GI and mixing the two together like people do is even worse. Even the backs of the cans on most foods state not to use with a staple diet. Use intermittently only. If your only background and experience with this is based on one single call from a kennel you SHOULD not be spreading such misinformation.

  • SpoiledMiniAussie

    If you want to feed your dog wet food on a budget…try Evangers brand. They have their own canning facility in house so the cans are half the price and better quality than most. I’m a vegetarian, but I have to admit that if there was a zombie apocalypse, I would be happy to eat my dogs wet food! Hope this helps someone out there, I was glad I discovered it.

  • babyb

    hi i was reading what you had wrote and i have a maltese who has alot of tummy issues and throws up often,alot of dry dog food up in PA has been recalled the past month now leaving not much on the market to buy or safe,we cook food for him and he also likes dry kibble was wondering what your using and maybe make your own dry kibble,im so scared to feed him anything at the pet store now dogs are gettin very ill and even death from dry dog foods if you have any suggestion s let me no.

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  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    If you still have canned food to use up you can also sprinkle in some ground psyllium, commonly known as Metamucil. Some of mine will take the whole capsule in piece of cheese or I open it up and sprinkle it on the food. I buy it in loose bulk form. Or use the pumpkin or sweet potato.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Terribly lucky!! And I’m incredibly envious.

  • Teri

    I’m kind of surprised by how much worry there is over dog foods! Until I adopted a pit bull with severe allergies I never really researched dog foods much, I always fed a mid priced kibble to my dogs and ALL have been incredibly healthy! I had one who lived until he was 2 months shy of his 20th birthday, I have a 7 year old cocker, a 5 year old mutt and except for the pit with allergies, not one of my dogs have ever been sick or needed to go to the vets except for their regular visits for shots and being spayed/neutered.
    Have I just been lucky?

  • Teri

    I will try that and thank you!

  • http://www.thegreedypinstripes.com/ BryanV21

    What about, instead of adding wet food to the kibble, you added some pumpkin or sweet potato instead? It shouldn’t get any diarrhea from it, the dog may like the moisture and taste from it, and if there is some stomach upset then it will help settle things.

  • Teri

    I am surprise to hear wet food actually isn’t as bad for dogs, I always thought it was! I have 3 dogs, one of which has gotten quite fat after being spayed and has SEVERE allergies to many foods and doesn’t tolerate any foods with grains. After going through multitudes of vatious kibble I found that she does extremely well on Taste of the Wild. She is finally completely off the allergy pills and steroids she needed and looks great. The problem is her weight. With the kibbles, the other dogs don’t always eat all their food at one time and the fat little pit bull will usually end up finishing it, and she needs to lose weight. One of the ways I have been able get the other two to finish their meals when I feed them is to mix the kibbles with wet food, however the wet food seems to give my cocker spaniel extreme diarrhea! I’m at a bit of a loss. Any suggestions? Getting her off the steriods should help her weight gain some but any suggestions of types of wet food I could mix with kibble that might be easier on the cocker spaniels’ stomach would be appreciated!

  • monkey

    Just to grt it out of the way, i know kibble doesn’t clean teeth. As for canned foods, does anyone have any experience with if stew type recipes are less harsh on oral health than patte recipes?

  • Lauren

    * Feed canned, then look at the teeth you can see wet food sticks around near the gumline. (Sorry for the spelling in prior post)

  • Lauren

    I believe home made, raw prey model, or BARF are the best choices, next canned if u clean the teeth regularly. Ferd ur dog canned, then look at the yerth. Wet food does stick behind more than anything. However, I also believe kibble, no matter how high quality, is just too far from its contients natural state. Also, Moisture is
    Too low, i believe ove time dogs can become chronically mildly dehdrated. I feed part raw, part canned w/ extra water added, and kibble (on seprate days than the raw) at least this way we have variety in the diet. All food fed is high quality from the 3-5 star teirs only. We NEVER mix wet and dty together as dogs can get picky and refuse dry by itself. Wet is fed by itself in a seoerate bowl. We also alternate about monthly between formulas and brands. Water is provided at all times! No corn, wheat, soy, sugar, by product, artificial preservatives flavors or colors. All dogs get their teeth brushed ar leasr 1 a week a d get raw meary bones and rope toys

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Mathias –

    If your dog is vomiting and refusing food she normally likes you should have her seen by a vet immediately, please do not wait until next week. Vomiting and loss of appetite are sometimes nothing more than an upset stomach that will go away after a few days, but they can also be symptoms of something more serious. It’s better to be safe than sorry. I would also highly recommend switching your dog to a better quality food, Pedigree is about as bad as it gets. If you shop at Walmart there’s a brand carried there called Pure Balance – it’s much better than Pedigree and reasonably priced. Two other foods that would be a big step up from Pedigree than can be found at most grocery stores and Walmarts would be Purina One Beyond, Iams Sensitive Naturals and Iams Simple and Natural.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000109706169 Mathias Bjorkman

    My dog seem to have developed a irritated stomach, some days she throws up her food. I give her pedigree dry food. Normally its no problem but for the last few days she eats and keep is down for a big part of the day but then throws it up. This is not every day. Not sure if she is sick or the food is irritating her stomach. She usually like a slice of cheese in the morning but she would not even want that. If she is not doing better by next week i will bring her to the vet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.llewellyn.92 Mary Llewellyn

    be wary of Hills Science Diet TD original size – does not specify not to use with smaller breeds. Our vet recommended it as better to use than the “small bites” size if the dogs would eat it, as it would do an even better cleaning job – $6,000 later, both dogs had to have broken and cracked teeth removed. Vet said must have been chewing stones. My dogs don’t chew stones – the hardest thing either chewed was this dog food! Hills didn’t want to hear it either. Will never buy another Hills product again!

  • Hickey2005

    canned food contains alot of water sometimes over 70% where dried food contains non

  • Pattyvaughn

    Thanks SSW

    That’s good info to share.

  • SSW

    PP wrote about BPA in dog food, this is from the lining of the can.  Choosing something that does not come in a can should eliminate the BPA.  I say this not as any kind of dog expert, but as someone who recently did extensive research on BPA.  BPA is leached from some plastics, generally #7s and the lining of cans.

  • JellyCat

    Some canned dog foods contain artificial flavorings and especially colorings. Colorings in such foods are typically caramel colour to make food look dark brown.

  • Melissaandcrew

     Hi KC-

    Its got to be the quality of canned that you are feeding. My crew eats canned, and not a single one of them develops bad breath from it-also, the cans of higher quality food do not have that nasty over processed smell(open a can of a meat based 4 or 5 star food and a can of 2 star and you can smell the difference) As for diarrhea, each dog is different. Typically, if the dog is rotated, they do not get the runs from the canned once they are used to it-unless there is a fat content issue or a “reaction” to a particular brand/flavor.

  • KC

    Another con- wet dog food smells AWFUL, and gives the dogs bad breath. It also gives my smaller dog diarhhea. :(

  • KC

    THERE’S BPA IN DOG FOODS??!?!?!?! WHY?!??! I’m appalled!

  • KC

    My girls go crazy over blue buffalo grain-free, and they’re pretty into Iams mini chunks. Also- they seem to like dry or wet oatmeal for a snack, or put on top of food as a rare treat. Try that. Whole oats are wonderful for dogs. Maybe even add carrots for eye health. Dogs like a little bit of plant foods in their diet in addition to meaty stuff.

  • KC

    There’s been so many recalls on wet dog foods. And even dry for that matter. I wish I had the money to feed my dogs all real food. One of my dogs got food poisoning off beneful a couple years ago. She’s okay now but I never bought that brand again!

  • Rhea

    Eating dry food (cereal) 100 percent would make me wanna die. Can definitely understand why my canines don’t want it.

  • Dave’s Hounds

     I use ziwipeak canned or airdried and my dogs love it. I also rotate Grandma Lucy’s Pureformance dehydrated – it smells great and you add warm water and wait about 5 minutes before serving.

  • Cheryl

    I have a friend who ONLY feeds her boxers “real food”.  She has spoken to her vet about what to have in it but she feels its more natural and better for them since she controlls what they get.  she sometimes makes in advance containers so she always has some and refrigerates it but talk to your vet if he’s getting the nutrients and he’s happy what the hey?

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Look to the left, click on either “Dry”, “Wet” or “Raw” Dog Foods. Or you can also get there by going to the Library tab.

  • Matilda

    And how do you get to a list of 5 star dog foods?

  • Matilda

    My chihuahua/fox terrier mix is so finicky I am at my wits end trying to find something to feed him. He seems to hate all dry food as well as wet. He only wants to eat whatever I fix for dinner, but he has been gaining weight that way. Anyone know a good canned food and dry food that I could mix that he would eat? I tried once to feed him only dog food and he went four days without eating. I don’t want to go through that again.

  • LoveNewEngland

    Carrageenan, which is derived from red seaweed, is the most controversial gelling ingredient. Even though this ingredient is FDA approved for human consumption, some studies indicate that there is a link to cancer. There are two different qualities, a low grade and high grade. Guess which is most likely in dog food? For high protein, non-stew-like canned dog food, this ingredient is almost always found on the label (especially in the 95% versions), even in the high quality brands. Most importantly, avoid this ingredient in foods that you or your family eats. 

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  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    Canned food does not give puppies worms.  Sometimes worms don’t come out every time they poop.   So there might be a couple worm-free poops in between the ones that you see worms.  Depends on how much of the worms they have.  Also your pup can acquire worms from outside.  I think it’s whipworm or hookworm, I forgot which one.  So be careful if your pup gets into an area where there is alot of waste or eats poop that is not picked up.  The tapeworms come from the fleas.  Alot of my fosters have those when I first get them and they are noticeable but not on every poop!

  • Ash

    so will canned dog food give puppies worms? my puppy didn’t have any worms for a couple days and i gave him a can of food and the next few times he went out he had worms.????

  • http://www.dfwpugs.com/ sandy

    What’s the least offensive to worst offensive gelling agent in canned foods (and then there’s bpa)?

    guar
    carrageenan
    xanthum gum
    vegetable gum
    locust bean gum
    bpa

    I’ve found 2 canned foods without these gelling agents but are not bpa free: nature’s logic and instinct.  And then I found some with just one gelling agent.

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  • Betsy Greer

    I’m late in responding to this Mike P,

    I read that HDM recommended some alternate products that you might like.  You might also like Darwin’s.  I love it as a topper and they also carry frozen green tripe:  http://www.darwinspet.com/raw-bones-green-tripe-venison-jerky/.  

  • BryanV21

    I’m not sure about all varieties, but the two that we have (Venison and Fish) are a bit higher in fat. Ziwipeak is an awesome food, though, and compared to what you were feeding would it certainly be a better choice.

  • sharron

    thanks again

    what about ziwipeak? she really likes it!!
    too high in fat?

  • BryanV21

    FYI, the “dry food is good to clean teeth” thing is a myth. Kibble, for lack of a better word, “explodes” when bitten so that it does not scrape against the teeth.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I agree with BryanV21, Fromm would be a good choice. Two other suggestions I would make is Weruva and Addiction – these are high quality low fat canned foods. You may also want to consider feeding a dehydrated food like The Honest Kitchen or Grandma Lucy’s – they have about the same amount of calories per cup as a dry food but they rehydrate with an equal amount of water so they double in volume giving your dog the same amount of calories with double the volume of food.

  • sharron

    thanks

    she prefers wet -  only reason i give her dry is that so many people have told me that it’s good for her teeth.
    i’ve watched her eat – she doesn’t chew – most of it she swallows whole – she’s like a front end loader. if she doesn’t chew it, how is that helping her teeth?

  • BryanV21

    There’s too much filler in this food, especially for a wet food, so it’s not surprising your dog never felt full with it.

    Fromm 4-Star is a really good wet food, that has lower than average fat in it. And due to less filler, your dog would likely feel fuller with it.

  • sharron

    Hi

    considering putting my yorkie/chihuahua back on to just a canned diet – was on it before, r/d canned food. so she could lose a lb, but found she was always hungry. was feeding her about every 3 hours. is there a better can food that will make her feel full sfter her meals?

    thanks

  • Johnandchristo

    Hey mike…… 

    Thanks !! You feed so good I cant even come close !
    I saw the Brother’s face book and was touched  that they put Christo in there!!

  • Mike P

    John/melissa I believe by mixing it up you avoid making picky eaters.Jubilee always gets one cup of kibble for her second feeding with water and a squirt of fish oil.On days when she’s extremely active and hungary I will give her a additional half cup kibble dry before bedtime.Always eats everything in her bowl and very interested on what I put in it lol.Yes I took the dehydrated line from Beckers video.I thought it made sense when you look at the wolves diet of 70% moisture.I wish I were smart enough to feed raw but I know I would screw things up if I tried.Good thing for us there is Brothers.Nice pic of Christo on the Brothers FB page John!!!

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Melissa….

    I agree too. I did not say “if you feed kibble your dog will be in a constant state of dehydration” but I did see the Dr Karin Becker video(how to choose a good dog food) , and she stated that a food that was 10 % water would be taxing to a dog’s organs, if fed exclusively for the duration of the animals life. So what Mike P and I (and others) are guestamating is adding water/meat in the kibble to moistion  it would be helpful? Hope so. Your right about making them picky eaters though, I think Christo has me trained sometimes.

  • melissa

    Johnandchristo-

    I don’t always top every meal either-I expect my dogs to eat what is in the bowl, and I do not want a case of finicky eater on my hands I always add warm water and I have to say, it really makes the Acana smell great-so the dogs “think” there is something unique, lol.

    I don’t agree with the statement that “if you only feed kibble, your dog will be in a constant state of dehydration.” I ate a sandwich today, without a drink since I was in a hurry, but I was not thirsty. Yet, two hours later, when I felt thirsty, I drank..as long as the mechanism to respond to the dogs thirst is working, I can not fathom how they would dehydrate : ) The obvious exception of course would be the same as humans out in excessively hot weather.

  • Johnandchristo

    Ps Mike……

    Sometimes I do feed Christo just plain kibble, but I mix in springwater, that I heat a little on the stove. My Flat Coat Dugan would eat kibble like that all most every day day. But always with water.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi Mike P…..

    I agree with everyone don’t throw out the tripett. I would not get to nuts about it. But I stopped feeding it.
    And as hounddogmom said after 6 months it did not hurt him. I also agree with you about kibble. I am now mixing in chop meat, beef turkey, pork, chicken, Even
    rabbit and salmon. What I do with the chop meat is put a cup or two of water and lightly boil the meat. Let it cool and add the water and meat to the kibble. I’m hoping in this way to get more water into Christo.
    BPAs are really bad, but as Dr Mike said in a post a few days ago if fed over and over again you need to worry. My take on BPAs is the same as k3, I feel its not worth it to take a chance. I think there is more evidence against than for, so I avoid. Just my opinion.  

  • Mike P

    John I am feeding Brothers as well and feel great about that.I assume you top off every Brothers meal? Feeding kibble alone will keep your dog in a constant state of dehydration.That’s why no matter how great the kibble I will never feed only kibble.

  • Mike P

    Thanks melissa for your advice.Jubilee just does so good with the tripe and loves it so much.I like what the tripett has to offer with the enzymes and I feed her that with veggies.I really don’t have a plan sunday through tuesday without the tripett.I feel it’s a better option than just meat canned food.I would just feed her fresh meat then.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Mike P: I wouldn’t throw it out. Just finish off the 8 weeks and discontinue use after. If it makes you feel any more comfortable I fed my dogs a large can of Tripett each for about 6 months before I found out about BPA – they’re still alive and well lol. I now order fresh tripe from mypetcarnivore.com and hare-today.com. You could also look into freeze-dried green tripe options – Dr. Harvey’s and K9 Natural both sell freeze-dried green tripe.

    Edit: Oops. replied to the wrong person.

  • Johnandchristo

    Mike P, this is what I posted a month ago on another thread about BPAs Hi Shawna and Richard,
    Hears some more info about canned food. If the cans are made cheaply(and alas legally ) they can containBPA, a very dangerous chemical. BPA has been linked to cancer, obesity, and diabetes. It can trick your fat cells into taking in more fat. It can trick your pancreasinto producing more insulin which can lead to type 2 diabetes. One serving from a can (not the whole can)is 80 times the amount you should have in one day!!So thats something to think about when feeding your pets, and yes thats one more reason that I’m feeling good about feeding Brothers.

  • melissa

     Mike P-

    Others will probably be more concerned over the potential for the BPA, but I really don’t have this at the top of my concerns. I would not throw out the food, and if really concerned, I would simply space out the servings-perhaps instead of weekly, every two weeks or monthly until done.

  • Mike P

    I’m freaked out now about BPA lined cans.I only feed Tripett 1/3rd can topper 3 times a week Sunday,Monday,Tuesday.The other 4 days a week she gets fresh meat/sardines as toppers.Now I am worried that the sardine cans are BPA lined as well!!Just how dangerous is this BPA and now is it indeed true that canned is a better option than kibble?I have 8 weeks of Tripett left and would hate to throw it away.I emailed Tripett and asked about the BPA and never got a response so I take that as a yes they are lined with poisen.What to do???

  • Art

    excellent info, thank you very much!!

  • Notinvain

    I simply want to express my gratitude to you, Mike, for your invaluable blog. Thank goodness for generous, humane people like you. ~ Thank You, Thank You, Thank You ~
    Barbara L

  • Nikanika427

    Stories like yours are so common it makes me sad. Yes there are a lot of options, but some research will quickly narrow your choices to foods that will be good for your dog and fit your lifestyle and budget. Holistic kibble such as Taste of the Wild are good options if convinience is an issue. You will want to make sure the food is grainfree. Also, always read the ingredients. If the first 10 items contain something you can’t pronounce… its probably a bad buy. Make sure there are a couple whole meat items as well (as opposed to chicken by-product meal – how gross!) Personally, I feed my girls a homemade raw diet. it takes a little more time, but my vet says he’s never seen healthier dogs. I suggest you do some serious research and see what works for you. Remember, just because your dog is doing good on a certain diet doesn’t mean he can’t do Great on another!

  • Ivy Marks

    Hello
    Just found your site through Covy Tucker Hill Kennels in Cali.  Expecting a new shepherd pup next month after the loss of our beloved 10 yr old boy.  My question is while there’s so much to choose from on the market, does a dog get enough nutrition if he receives “home cooked” food?  Sounds silly I know, but my previous dog had so many undiagnosed stomach ailments and was eventually placed on some presecript. food for GSD’s only.  I want to keep this puppy healthy but unsure of which products are best.  Considering last years tainted dog foods in PA, I worry about commercial products.  Thoughts welcomed!
    Thanks

  • Hound Dog Mom

    When I fed Honest Kitchen the dogs got 2 C. THK + 1/2 Can Tripett morning and evening.

  • Johnandchristo

    Hi La…..

    I feed it once because it is not fortified. But it is a very good component to a Raw or top tier kibble. It is filled with digestive acids , and omega threes, plus extra protein, great for dogs. I think its 20% topper to kibble. that keeps the balance of cal/ phosphorous in the right place. 

  • LA

    I ordered the Tripett (lamb tripe) and just wondering is this something can be give at each feeding (twice a day) or maybe just twice a week???

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Yeah if you’re going to feed a canned food make sure it’s free of corn, wheat, soy, colorings, sweeteners, and by-products – and grain-free is always a plus. If the canned is low quality you’re actually better of with the high quality dry. All of the options Dave’s Hounds suggested are wonderful (I’m particularly fond of Nature’s Logic) – but be warned they are a little pricey, some of them over $3 per can. If you’re on a budget, some high-quality budget friendly canned foods are: Whole Earth Farms (rated 5 stars, approx. $1.60 per can); By Nature (rated 5 stars, approx. $1.30 per can); Harmony Farms (rated 4 stars, approx. $1.60 per can); and Variety (rated 4 stars, approx. $1.60 per can).

  • Dave’s Hounds

    Dreamer – I spent a long time researching many different cannced foods for my dogs – I also feed them air dried and freeze dried with a very small amount of kibble. Canned food is not inexpensive but I recommend Ziwipeak, Instinct, Merrick BG, Natures Logic, Wysong Au Jus, and Wellness Core. I am sure there are many other good ones out there but these all work well for me and I like the companies – I did stop Welness Core after the recall but am now rotating through it again as it was not impacted. i generally move away from a company after a recall especially if it is handled poorly or pets died. I would never touch Diamond.

  • Toxed2loss

    He probably “goes nuts for it” because it contains excitatory neurotoxins, that are addictive, and stimulate appetite. Look for ingredients like “natural flavor, broth, citric acid, protein isolate, hydrolyzed (anything), carrageenan, corn gluten meal, MSG…” And a whole host of others.

    Sorry. :-{

  • Dreamer

     I see your point about Dental health, maybe I’m just biased because her shitzu’s teeth are atrocious, although she doesn’t brush. Still I would rather him be eating the highly nutritious kibble than the low quality (not because its canned, just that its cheap stuff) canned food which he fills up on. He goes bananas for the stuff though, I’d feel bad making him sit out while the other 8 eat. Guess that’s how it is though.

    Maybe when I move back out I’ll look into high quality canned products.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Dreamer,

    This is a common misconception. Canned food is more-species appropriate than kibble (higher in protein, more moisture, and less preservatives/colorings). So actually, contrary to popular belief, canned food is better for a dog than kibble – just make sure you’re using a quality canned food. Also canned does not rot teeth and kibble does not clean teeth. Think about it this way, if you went to your dentist and he told you you could stop brushing your teeth as long as you ate crunchy food what would you say? You’d think he was nuts right? Because it is nuts! Kibble does not scrape off plaque and tartar and in fact kibble containing grains can actually contribute to plaque and tartar build up (dogs don’t possess the enzyme in their saliva that breaks down grains so they build up on the gum line). The only effective way to ensure clean teeth is to brush your dogs teeth frequently. Some other things that can help with plaque and tartar build up are raw meaty bones or dental chews specifically designed to clean teeth (just make sure they don’t have unhealthy ingredients). But nothing is a substitute for a good teeth brushing!

  • Dreamer

    I’m staying with my dog at my mothers right now. I’ve been feeding my dog 1 1/2 c. high-quality kibble a day yet my mother additionally feeds him canned food (store-brand) in the morning and and night. I’d prefer she didn’t do this because I feel like this causes him to eat less of the quality kibble and also rot his teeth. Do i have a legitimate concern here?

  • Aseycay

    Oh his poops are fine now. It was only when he was on the grain free food that we had a problem. They were usually just really soft, not formed at all and much more frequent.