Now Fresh Dog Food (Dry)


Rating: ★★★★☆

Now Fresh Dog Food receives the Advisor’s second-highest tier rating of 4 stars.

The Now Fresh product line includes 11 grain-free, dry dog foods.

Each recipe below includes its related AAFCO nutrient profile when available on the product’s official webpage: Growth, Maintenance, All Life Stages, Supplemental or Unspecified.

  • Now Fresh Grain Free Adult [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Senior [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Fish Adult [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Red Meat Adult [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Puppy (4.5 stars) [G]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Small Breed Senior [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Large Breed Senior [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Large Breed Adult (4.5 stars) [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Small Breed Adult (4.5 stars) [M]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Small Breed Puppy (4.5 stars) [A]
  • Now Fresh Grain Free Large Breed Puppy (4.5 stars) [A]

Now Fresh Grain Free Small Breed Adult was selected to represent the other products in the line for this review.

Now Fresh Grain Free Small Breed Adult

Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Protein = 30% | Fat = 19% | Carbs = 43%

Ingredients: De-boned turkey, whole dried egg, peas, pea flour, potatoes, potato flour, natural flavour, flaxseed, apples, canola oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), de-boned salmon, de-boned duck, coconut oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), calcium carbonate, dicalcium phosphate, tomato, alfalfa, carrots, pumpkin, sweet potatoes, squash, bananas, blueberries, cranberries, blackberries, pomegranate, papayas, lentils, broccoli, dried chicory root, sodium tripolyphosphate, sodium chloride, potassium chloride, choline chloride, vitamins (vitamin A supplement, vitamin D3 supplement, vitamin E supplement, inositol, niacin, l-ascorbyl-2-polyphosphate (a source of vitamin C), d-calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, beta-carotene, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), minerals (zinc methionine complex, zinc proteinate, iron proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc oxide, manganese proteinate, copper sulphate, ferrous sulphate, calcium iodate, manganous oxide, selenium yeast), taurine, dl-methionine, l-lysine, algae extract, dried Lactobacillus acidophilus fermentation product, dried Enterococcus faecium fermentation product, parsley, peppermint, green tea extract, l-carnitine, dried rosemary

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.4%

Red items indicate controversial ingredients

Estimated Nutrient Content
Guaranteed Analysis27%17%NA
Dry Matter Basis30%19%43%
Calorie Weighted Basis25%39%36%
Protein = 25% | Fat = 39% | Carbs = 36%

The first ingredient in this dog food is turkey. Although it is a quality item, raw turkey contains about 80% water. After cooking, most of that moisture is lost, reducing the meat content to just a fraction of its original weight.

After processing, this item would probably account for a smaller part of the total content of the finished product.

The second ingredient is whole dried egg, a dehydrated powder made from shell-free eggs. Eggs are easy to digest and have an exceptionally high biological value.

The third ingredient includes peas. Peas are a quality source of carbohydrates. And like all legumes, they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, peas contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fourth ingredient is pea flour, a powder made from roasted yellow peas. Pea flour contains as much as 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the meat content of this dog food.

The fifth ingredient is potato. Potatoes can be considered a gluten-free source of digestible carbohydrates. Yet with the exception of perhaps their caloric content, potatoes are of only modest nutritional value to a dog.

The sixth ingredient is potato flour. Unlike potato starch, potato flour is made from the whole potato (even the skins). This item is considered a gluten-free source of digestible carbohydrates with only modest nutritional value.

After the natural flavor, we find flaxseed, one of the best plant sources of healthy omega-3 fatty acids. Provided they’ve first been ground into a meal, flax seeds are also rich in soluble fiber.

However, flaxseed contains about 19% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

The ninth ingredient includes apple, a nutrient-rich fruit that’s also high in fiber.

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to affect the overall rating of this product.

With seven notable exceptions

First, we find canola oil. Unfortunately, canola can be a controversial item. That’s because it can sometimes (but not always) be derived from genetically modified rapeseed.

Yet others cite the fact canola oil can be a significant source of essential omega-3 fatty acids.

In any case, plant-based oils like canola are less biologically available to a dog than fish oil as a source of quality omega-3 fats.

Next, this recipe also includes coconut oil, a natural oil rich in medium-chain fatty acids.

Medium-chain triglycerides have been shown to improve cognitive function in older dogs.1

Because of its proven safety2 as well as its potential to help in the treatment of canine cognitive dysfunction syndrome (CDS) and chronic skin disorders, MCT can be considered a positive addition to this recipe.

In addition, we note the use of alfalfa, a flowering member of the pea family. Although alfalfa is high in protein (18%) and fiber, it’s uncommon to see it used in a dog food. This hay-family ingredient is more commonly associated with horse feeds.

Next, we find lentils in this recipe. Lentils are a quality source of carbohydrates. Plus (like all legumes) they’re rich in natural fiber.

However, lentils contain about 25% protein, a factor that must be considered when judging the actual meat content of this dog food.

We also note the inclusion of chicory root, which is rich in inulin, a starch-like compound made up of repeating units of carbohydrates and found in certain roots and tubers.

Not only is inulin a natural source of soluble dietary fiber, it’s also a prebiotic used to promote the growth of healthy bacteria in a dog’s digestive tract.

Next, this recipe contains chelated minerals, minerals that have been chemically attached to protein. This makes them easier to absorb. Chelated minerals are usually found in better dog foods.

And lastly, this food also includes selenium yeast. Unlike the more common inorganic form of selenium (sodium selenite), this natural yeast supplement is considered a safer anti-cancer alternative.

Now Fresh Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Now Fresh looks like an above-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 30%, a fat level of 19% and estimated carbohydrates of about 43%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 29% and a mean fat level of 16%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 47% for the overall product line.

And a fat-to-protein ratio of about 55%.

Near-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Even when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the pea products, flaxseed, alfalfa and lentils, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing a moderate amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Now Fresh is a grain free, plant-based dry dog food using a moderate amount of named meats and egg as its main sources of animal protein, thus earning the brand 4 stars.

Highly recommended.

Please note certain recipes are sometimes given a higher or lower rating based upon our estimate of their total meat content and (when appropriate) their fat-to-protein ratios.

Now Fresh Dog Food
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Notes and Updates

12/08/2016 Last Update

  1. Pan Y et al, Dietary supplementation with medium-chain TAG has long-lasting cognition-enhancing effects in aged dogs, British Journal of Nutrition, Volume 103, Issue 12, June 2010, pp 1746-1754
  2. Matulka RA et al, Lack of toxicity by medium chain triglycerides (MCT) in canines during a 90-day feeding study,Food Chem Toxicol, Jan 2009, 47(1) 35-9.
  • GloryBell

    We have ample amount of venison- can’t I just feed my new puppy, Shyla, that?

  • Krista

    How does this compare to Nulo?

  • Olga

    I bought Now Fresh bag for Small Breed 10.30. 2017, but I did not see across the bottom of the bag says Now has rendered meats ??? It is scary !!!! I and my husband look at the back and we did not see what you are claiming. (((

  • Storm’s Mom

    Storm LOVES Valens Pasture, it’s a solid part of his rotation now (right now we’re on PetKind’s new Venison Tripe Dry.. it sounds like you might be in Canada, if so I’d highly recommend trying that one’s a huge hit around here!). I was surprised that he wasn’t as fond of Valens Fisher, as he normally goes gaga over fish-based kibbles, but he does go gaga over Acana Pilchard Singles, so I’ll continue with that one as our “fish kibble” for the time being. The Farmer one has poultry, which Storm reacts to.

  • Diana Hunter

    Since I wrote that note I have changed to Valens Dry dog food. I phoned the company to speak to someone and was put through to the President of the company He is a very well informed man who sincerely cares about what goes into his food. It has all the factors I want in a good food for out dogs. If you are interested go on line and check out Valens food. My 5 cairns love it and are all doing well..

  • Aaron Stephens

    Just purchased a bag of Adult small breed (expiry 2018 Oct.). Still says 0% rendered meats by product meals gluten wheat corn soy. but the 0% was a big symbol rather than in the primary print. Was there maybe a sticker over the writing?

  • Diana Hunter

    Diana August 10th 2017
    I have been a user of Now Small Breed for 10 plus years. The bag has always said 0% rendered meats and by product meal. Last week I bought a bag of Now Small Breed and written across the bottom of the bag says in now has rendered meats. I promptly returned the bag, I will stop recommending this to my puppy people. I thought it was a food I could count on I guess not. Very disappointing.

  • Victoria Atha

    I wonder if that is what’s wrong with my dog. We just switched to NOW and she has been itching like crazy and I just saw that she has two bald spots on her front paws! She has never done this before, but itchy is her only symptom so I did not connect it to the food until reading your comment.

  • Olga

    I feed my Yorkie 6yrs old Now fresh from Canada. Food looks the same to me but my dog has constapetion and maybe I will change the her food.

  • Mandy Buchholz

    We have a 2 year old that is allergic to chicken. Loves turkey and does well with it! โค

  • Bagel

    I changed from FROMM to NOW for 2 weeks, my cooker spaniel doesn’t really like it. After eating NOW, he has so many stool, 3 to 4 times daily and in a big pile. He also chew his paws and has some hard skin like allergy on his back. He had once many years ago when I feed him the cheap dog food from supermarket. I read some articles from website found that the bad quality dog food will cause lots of stool. I will change back to Fromm and NOT recommend for this dogfood.

  • Nancy

    Has anyone noticed the last few months the Lg breed puppy and Lg breed adult kibble are very different that usual? The kibble is a lot darker in color, has an odd odor, and the shapes of both are quite different as well. Any input?

  • Francesca G

    I ordered Salmon from Petcurean from Chewy, it should arrive tomorrow. The protein is 24% and the fat is 14% which is exactly what I am looking for. I will still continue to feed my dog some Acana (but not too much since it’s too rich for her). I’m lucky she is not a picky eater and she has a great appetite.

  • Nancy

    I originally had my girls on Acana and Orijen, they did fabulous, however since we had to switch to the US made Acana, it was pretty much a disaster. In my opinion Now fresh is actually a better food. Now I only state this due to my own observations with my dogs. This does not mean it applies to every dog out there. I feed the large breed kibble which is nice and big. I do know, from feeling the kibble in the bags, the other kinds they have are smaller in size. I would use the coupon for a free bag. You can go to the Petcurean website and look at the ingredients and analysis. Not sure what fat level you are looking for though.

  • Francesca G

    My 13 year old Cockapoo came back to life after I started her on Acana Fresh Water. Unfortunately Acana is high in fat and it’s not made for a senior dog. Is the kibble (Now Fresh) small or large? I have a free coupon tempted to try it however I noticed it has potatoes. My dog has not had that in her diet in 13 years.

  • theBCnut

    One of my dogs with food allergies started out just reacting to chicken, but ended up with issues with turkey, goose, quail, and any other bird I could find to try. The other one can’t have chicken, but has no problems with any other bird. You really have to try it to know how your dog will react.

  • Nancy

    I’ve switched one of my Mastiffs (almost 2 yrs old) onto Now Fresh lg breed adult. I am extremely happy with the results in just a few short weeks. We were on Fromm varieties. Her coat is back to having a lovely shine, she has a new found energy, which is a plus since I also have a 7 mo. old mastiff pup who bounces off the walls with energy. And her stool has firmed up very nicely! Always a plus for that. I currently have the pup on Fromm heartland grain free lg breed puppy, but I am considering changing her to Now Fresh lg breed puppy.
    Is anyone else feeding this? How have your results been with your dogs?

  • Francesca G

    Thanks. I decided I’m not willing to take the risk. Going to rotate my dog who is on Acana with a new kibble called Dog Farm (Catch of the day). I have heard amazing things about this kibble. Customer Service was wonderful and answered all of my questions.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Francesca-

    Yes, it is possible for a dog to react to chicken, but not other poultry. It is also possible for them to react to all poultry. Unfortuntely it’s an experiment since you won’t know if he can have turkey until you try.

  • Francesca G

    My 13 year old cockapoo is allergic to chicken. Does anyone know if a dog is allergic to chicken would they be allergic to Turkey? I would like to try this kibble.

  • IJ


  • bojangles

    Hi IJ,

    These are the 2 books I would recommend. They will give you a good education in making a homemade diet and balancing it properly.

    1) A little easier to read and includes a whole food supplement recipe, plus meal recipes:

    2) A little more technical, but IMHO is the current “bible” for understanding canine nutrition:

    PS Here’s the article I mentioned about large breeds and their special nutritional requirements:

  • IJ

    Hi Bojangles,
    I agree with you, dog food has so many controversial ingredients and I had the same exact thought to feed my puppy homemade organic food, but some of the people who own dogs suggested that it will not have all the nutrients that puppy will need in his growth. Its very important for me to keep my puppy healthy and I am sure you feel same way thats why you’re are making your own food which is great. I did not get any aricle you wanted to share, and is there any particular web page you cook dog food from? I bought orijen 6 fish for my puppy which is from Canada, US purchased the company and as I have red US made ones are not good, thats why I did not purchase puppy formula which has chicken and made in Kentucky.
    Thank you for your time and sharing good thoughts.

  • bojangles

    Hi IJ,

    I feed homemade to my pups. I really wouldn’t recommend any dry foods. I feel that they have too many minuses and no pluses except convenience.

    Canned is better than dry and the Ziwipealk looks pretty good at first glance. It has a lot of meat, plus organs and tripe. These are good things in my opinion.

    The only negative I see is that the fat level is a little high in relation to the protein level AND because you have a large breed puppy you have to watch out for a few things like calories and calciun levels and ratios. Here is an article you should take a look at before you make any decisions:

    Good Luck, I love Sammies ๐Ÿ™‚

  • IJ

    Thank you for your answer and I agree with you after doing more research on it. Any suggestions for grain free large breed puppy food? Specially for Samoyeds? ZiwiPeak Daily Dog Cuisine (Canned) Its all stages dog food and what do you think about it?
    Thanks again!

  • IJ

    Thank you so much for your answer! You are right after doing more research on this food. Any suggestions for grain free large breed puppy food? Specially for Samoyed? Thanks again

  • bojangles

    Hi IJ,

    Alfalfa is not the only ingredient in this food that could be a GMO. The others are Potatoes, Canola oil, Squash, Papayas, and ???

  • IJ

    Does anyone feeding now brand food? I just red about alfalfa that all of them are Gmo

  • LabsRawesome

    Lanie, go troll somewhere else.

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  • Collie Mom from NJ

    I fed my smooth collie puppy the large breed puppy formula from age 8 weeks to 11 months and could not have been happier with the results. He’s lean, his poop is small and well formed and his coat is perfect.

  • Terri Kruger

    I LOVE the small breed senior! Our rescue Cavalier came with teeth problems, and several were removed. The small size or the dry food allows it to soften quickly when mixed with wet food. I supplement with cooked yams, broccoli, etc, as he likes variations. Our dog is over 10 years old now, and his coat is shiny, eye goobers are reduced, his energy level is great, and his weight is a very healthy 18 pounds.

  • Legendary Kangaroo

    I wish they’d review the Now Fresh Grain Free Red Meat Adult formula. I’ve heard good things but since I have to order it online I’d like more information

  • sharron

    ok thanks – i have trial size bags of the acana, pork, lamb and duck limited ingredients – will give those a try instead of putting her back on the royal canin

  • Storm’s Mom

    I wouldn’t for the simple fact that it’s a Senior food that she doesn’t need, has ridiculously low protein, and hardly any meat.

  • sharron

    thanks – in your opinion – should i continue with the now – will her system adjust to the fibre after awhile

  • Storm’s Mom

    Ok, I stand corrected..apologies. I agree with C4d, though.

  • sharron

    nobody has ever told me to feed her royal canin, that was my decision, because way back when, when she was very fussy i tried it and she likes it, she always has. i thought i would try NOW again since she didn’t like the first time which was about 3 years ago
    she does like it – i was just wondering about the nbr of times she poops that’s all – and all i told the woman at the store was how old she is , and she pulled off a bag of the senior adult off the shelf

  • Storm’s Mom

    What are you telling people at the store about her that would make them suggest things like Royal Canin and Now Senior???

  • sharron

    that’s what the lady at the store suggested – it’s the senior adult – i didn’t get a big of it just the trial size

  • Crazy4dogs

    I’m not sure what formula you feeding, but the senior is 6% fiber and that could be double the fiber your feeding which would make more poop. Why are you feeding her senior? I never feed senior, and she’s not that old.

  • sharron

    sorry – about a couple of mins and a few feet

  • sharron

    a couple minutes

  • Storm’s Mom

    What is the timeframe/distance between the 2-3 poops at one time?

  • sharron

    just started feeding the senior formula, she’s been on it for about 4 days and just curious as to why she poops 2-3 times, this isn’t in a day, it’s at one time, it’s not the runs, it’s normal – thought on grain free they poop less – when she’s fed royal canin she goes once and the volume is less
    i am NOT overfeeding her with the now food – she gets 1/8 cup 2 x/day – think i will stay with the royal canin

  • Alison

    I would 100% recommend this food for weight loss. My dog was 10 pounds over weight I was looking for a food I could feed more and have him intake less calories. Within 6 months he is at his ideal weight and maintaining it for the first time in 6 years. If this doesn’t work for you also have a look at Fromm Prairie Gold Weight management.

  • Son Tran

    To manage our 9yo Tibetan mastiff’s weight we’ve been feeding him the grain-free senior recipe for the past 3 years and it’s been working well for him. We have to keep his weight down so we fill his meal with raw vegetables to increase satiety. He’s maintaining a lean weight. We also supplement it with coconut oil, raw goat’s milk, fish oil, and, on alternate days, a dollop of Honest Kitchen rehydrated mash. He loves it, leaves his food bowl spotless. Produces a firm stool on the regular too (1-2X daily).

  • foss77

    Can anyone give me any feedback on how their dog did on the senior formula. I am looking for a premium food for my dog who needs to drop some weight but also will be 7 next month so I need to find a formula that is lower in fat but not too high in protein. I have tried some of the high protein premium diets and they caused digestive issues for him (yes, I transitioned very slowly to these foods) and possible elevated protein levels in his urine (more testing to come to get to the bottom of that). It has been very difficult to find a highly rated food that does not also have high levels of protein and this has been very frustrating. His current food (mid tier) which I want to eventually switch him away from is about 25% protein and he does well on that. The premium food I tried him on had 43% protein and that was too much. I do not know what the sweet spot is for him in terms of protein levels and am hoping that an increase of less than 5% will be tolerable. I would appreciate anyone who can share their experience along these sames lines!

  • India Eileen

    So, I’m wondering if the percentages of ingredients of this is less than standard. My 95lb Pit is eating a normal amount for his activity level and his bowel movements are huge and frequent, at least 4 times a day. According to their calorie content I’m feeding too much but regarding the protein I’m not. I’m wondering if their peas take up most of their protein while real meat protein (that he’d be able to digest much better and use without pooping as much!) is lacking. Wondering if anyone noticed this.
    Honestly, I really just thought I’d try this food cause I get promo prices through work but I don’t think I’ll be feeding it much longer. Kasiks and raw with a couple cans a week is key for me and my dog!

  • India Eileen

    Just wanna say, yes, Canada has a pretty good reputation these days, as far as pet food goes, what with Champion and Firstmate doing their amazing thing. But don’t always assume Canada is good quality. That’s where the biggest pet food recall came from in 2007! Canada, shippin in from China! Anyways, just wanted to mention that. I just started my pit bull on Now and, while I’m starting to hear less than exciting news about the parent company, it seems like a good food. But more research on company ethics might be necessary here!

  • Ann

    There’s an article on this site about meat meals used in pet foods. Meal is meat rendered down to a dry form to make the kibble. The difference is what form of meat is rendered. From what I’ve gathered, if an ingredient is listed as a specific protein source, such as turkey meal then it’s good but meat meal is or can be animal by products, road kill, euthanized animals and other scary stuff. Here’s a really informative (and disgusting!) article on rendered meat:

    Here’s an example from the Petcurean site: Chicken Meal: a concentrated source of protein from chicken, containing meat, bones and cartilage that is dried and preserved naturally, and is exclusive of feathers, heads, feet and entrails

  • Ann

    I’ve been feeding Petcurean NOW Fresh Small Breed Weight Management to my 4 dachshunds for about 6 weeks now and couldn’t be happier with the results.

    First of all, when the one that I thought had no health issues almost died from pancreatitis, liver failure, and blown gallbladder, I set out to find a dog food that wasn’t from the Rx line. I personally cannot support a company that uses rendered animals for their protein sources, which Royal Canin does so I was eager to get my dogs on a more responsible, sensible diet, free of those unmentionables. When my vet said she would need to be on a GLF formula, the key being the LF as in low fat, I started researching every quality low fat diet and came up with a top 5. Changing my dogs food always brings me to this site to read the reviews.

    Petcurean has a wonderful pet food nutritionist named Michelle on staff that talked to me in length about what I was looking for, my dogs’ specific health issues and my concerns. By the end of my discussion with her, I felt very confident about changing all 4 dachshunds (ages 6-10-ish) from Fromms (sick dog’s food) and Royal Canin SO diet (the other 3 that have had UTIs and bladder stones in the past along with strivite crystals, in the past) to the NOW Fresh Sr small breed weight management formula. She told me to add D-mannose to my supplement routine, which I did, dropping the cranberry capsules.

    First of all, my dogs all love the kibble and scarf it down without hesitation. For the oldest dog who really needs to lose weight, I started adding green beans to his kibble and cutting back on the amount he gets to help him lose some pounds. Daily, I provide D-mannose, salmon oil capsule, 1 tsp coconut oil, (their coats are ah-mazing from this!) and a probiotic along with a sprinkle of Solid Gold Seameal. 2 of my 4 are on SAM-e for liver function support. 1 is on medicine for Cushing’s Disease and a heart murmer (the one that almost died) All 4 are losing weight and trimming up. Their coats are super soft and shiny.

    I order this food from Chewy (best company EVER!) and the prices are great there. I feel like Petcurean is a responsible and caring company that creates a quality food for about every specific need. They are friendly and willing to discuss your concerns or needs at length, providing coupons for samples and great customer service.

    My chubby 10 yr old and my mini that had her gallbladder out, pancreatitis and Cushings and the heart murmer go in for blood work later next week. I will post an update as to how this change in diet and supplements has been on their health and weight. ๐Ÿ˜€

  • Ray Korbyl

    I can say it is state of the art facility and truly family run business, everyone is on the same page and that’s what makes a good business, I don’t think there in for the money because they don’t take short cuts,I think they truly are in it to prove you can make a high quality dog food with out taking short cuts and adding fillers..I did ask about the lentals and chick peas and they said there healthier that white potatos.

  • DogFoodie

    Cool, Ray! The fact that they’re open to public tours says something about them. I’m sure that was an interesting tour. Did you get to see the actual manufacturing process taking place?

  • Ray Korbyl

    I went on a tour of the champion foods facility and there the real deal,wow they have there poop in a group,its cleaner than my house and let me tell you that there food is human grade and I have a new respect for orijen and anana now and I am going to give the pork and butternut squash and lamb and apples a try now because I no they use the real ingredients that they say they use,I was amazed …And I have to say it is true human grade dog food…

  • Saskie80

    I have been feeding my Dachshunds this for a few years, and their coats are so healthy. One of my dog’s belly and chest didn’t have much hair, and was dried out causing chaffing. About a month after feeding him this, hair came back!

  • Marcie

    Curious if there are any boxer owners could weigh in on advice as to feeding this brand to a 19 week old puppy.. I know boxers aren’t considered a large breed dog, but some boxers can be on the heavy side, but I have no idea how big my guy will get, his on a grain free TOTW now, so should I be buying a large breed puppy, just a reg puppy food or an als food?

  • DogFoodie

    I love the idea of fresh meats only and no meals. It’s hard to find though and often, as in the case with Now Fresh, the protein usually seems to be lower… that’s an easy fix though by simply adding additional fresh protein of your choosing.

    The problem with meals is ash. I’m currently feeding Now Fresh and I don’t know the ash content. I’ll email them and let you know what they say.

  • Hater & Molly’s Mom

    I just picked up a bag yesterday to try. Are meals in a dog food not good?

  • Ray Korbyl

    Thank you I’m gonna give it a try,have been using orijen and precise holistic with good result’s.

  • DogFoodie

    I’m using it now with great results for my Cavalier, Ray. She likes it, throughput is good. I like that it doesn’t contain any meals. I feel good about feeding it to her.

    I have used one of Petcurean’s other products, Go!, and would definitely use it again.

  • Ray Korbyl

    Never mind I just check out the website and its all Canadian products which is good,just might give it a try..

  • Ray Korbyl

    Is now fresh made in Canada or the USA??Is it all north American ingredients.???Wouldn’t mind trying this brand..

  • DogFoodie

    I just opened a bag of Now Fresh Small Breed ALS to begin a quick transition from Farmina Small Breed Puppy.

    I was amazed at how small the Farmina was…, about the size of a LaSeuer tiny, young pea; but the Now Fresh Small Breed ALS is even smaller.

    This is, by far, the tee-niniest kibble I’ve ever seen. If you want / need teeny tiny kibble, this is a great choice.

  • Shawna

    One man’s snake oil is another man’s medicine… ๐Ÿ™‚

    Gluten sensitivity, which is also genetic, can cause neurological symptoms like ataxia. The “cure” is to avoid gluten… Is it really so far fetched to think that substances like beta casomorphin-7 in dairy could be problematic? The research is suggesting there is a possible correlation. Should we simply ignore said information because the right research hasn’t yet been done? As someone whose neurological conditions improved once going dairy free, I say maybe not….

  • Lindsayface47

    Milk does not cause autism. Even if it did, it really doesn’t matter, since autism isn’t something to prevent or “cure.” It’s just a neurological difference, which is caused by genetics as well as a plethora of other factors. I’d know, since I’m autistic.

    As for Mercola, he’s probably the second most popular snake oils salesman of our time. Second only to his good friend, Oz. Rarely anything that either of them is remotely backed up by peer-review or even the most basic of correctly-performed studies. As a microbiology student, it makes me more than a little twitchy when people point to articles whose “proof” is a poorly done “study” that makes a fifth grader’s paper mรขchรฉ volcano look like a double-blind peer-review. Anybody can write an article, including Mercola. That doesn’t mean he knows what he’s talking about. Furthermore, he promotes chelation and bleach enemas as “cures” for autism. However, in the autistic community, we prefer to call them by their real name: torture.

    If you’re going to accept one thing he says on the basis that he knows what he’s talking about, you should probably take a look at the rest of his far-fetched opinions.

    Anyway, I got about three pounds worth of samples of this food today. I’ll very likely use them as training treats, but I’m curious how my American bulldog/pointer will do with them. I can’t seem to locate the cause of his loose stool, although he’s doing slightly better with Merrick WEF Chicken formula. I only feed him grain free, which has seemed to help, but I just can’t seem to get his stomach under control.

  • M Egan S Horttie

    This is an excellent food, I will tell you why. You don’t need a 5 star brand this I can’t say enough good things about it. when someone I knew found my cat Maxx, he’s not even a year yet . I was on a waiting list for a burmese kitten , my other cat was a burmese mix who passed away last November

    When he happened to fall out of the sky. Because he’s my guardian angel never leaves my side.

    He was pretty dirty whenfound trapped in a wheel well ( He loves baths Ive been bathing him since he was small not so much now every now and then )he was 8-9 weeks old his coat was matted and horrid. (hes long hair) and I noticed a drastic change in his coat when I fed him now,with a bit of Go sensitivity and shine ( i avoided the chicken wet foods and turkey wet foods as it seemed to give him diarehea (I had to cut a phone interview short to clean him up as he knew he had a stinky bum.

    So I’ve been feeding him duck and salmon rotating them) Maxx wow his coat got darker and glossier (hes a big black fuzzy furball) and has tons of energy. Hell even my fat cat Fin whose 4 was running full speed in the house, after switching from Iams to Summit and weruva ,I think hes lost some weight too . But hes more active and his fur has also improved he doesn’t shed nearly as much and his coat is softer and shinier could be weruva too
    Finigan loves Summit which I top off with Weruva chunky funky Fin fin loves that food. He would eat the entire portion,, where he use to not eat all of it I stopped my sister from free feeding him as I never did with my cat and hes a fantastic weight and my shadow. I am in the process of transitioning my 3 Golden Ivy from Blue Buffalo Freedom to Now, yes more pricy but a 12 pound bag seems to last us a while I also offered to pay my parents for half as its very pricy the big bag. fantastic food would recommend to anyone

  • Dr J

    PhD in Physiology and over 20 years of research experience in small intestinal uptake, cell biology, infectious diseases and cancer. Hope that clarifies it.

  • Guest

    What kind of Doctor are you? Lots of people say they are some sort of doctor just to put a label on themselves that looks good. No credentials though.

  • bonbon

    How can NOW dogfood be the blame for it? I sure it would be recalled if lots of dogs developed digestive issues.

  • bonbon

    my dog’s skin in now not flaky.

  • bonbon

    Pooping that much is still normal. My dog still does too but the stool is now firm, not loose.

  • bonbon

    My dog too always had loose stool from eating a Vet brand dogfood. I found NOW myself and now she has firm stool and no flaky skin either.

  • dls_no5

    Been feeding NOW to my 14 1/2 yr old Siberian Husky for 2 years. I have heard that “good quality dog food is supposed to decrease waste” however, she is still pooping 2-4 times a day. Is this a concern?

  • Samantha Leishman

    My dog Zailey was diagnosed with an allergy to grain about 6 months. Before being diagnosed we had tried so many brands from blue buffalo to ACANA and we did not know what was causing her to have so many loose bowel movements! Our vet told us about NOW Fresh and it instantly fixed our problem! Their high protein food with no grain is wonderful for dogs!

  • GSue

    I have a Yorkie (female about 11 yrs old) that would get something like pimples on her body – several at a time in different locations. I would take her to the Vet, get medicine and it would clear up but come back after the medicine was gone. A friend with the same problem said that she had been told it was a yeast type infection and to try Now dog food. I bought my first bag about two years ago and Lexi has been pimple free ever since.

  • morelhead


    Unfortunately pancreatitis is caused by dietary indiscretion, genetic issues, increased fat diets, hormonal imbalance, or specific drug use. Food itself cannot cause an issue without these factors (or others) being present.

  • here_fishy

    My parents dog has been eating this brand for over a year. She recently developed acute pancreatitis. The vet said that several other dogs had developed digestive problems on this food, and they have switched back to Techni-cal.

  • Sorry, Vicky, but your reasoning is not correct. On every pet food label, the carbs are the missing “unknown” you are solving for.

    Fiber only accounts for a small fraction of those missing carbs and will be included in the solution.

    To solve for the missing carb value, simply add up all the constituent GA percentages on the label (protein + fat + moisture + ash) and subtract that figure from 100 percent.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Fiber is counted in with carbs, even in human food, even in calorie counts, go figure.

  • losul

    Fiber is included in Mike’s carb count.
    protein+fat + ash + carbs = 100

    30 + 19 + 8 + (4 + 39)=100

    subtract the fiber from the carbs and is approximately 39 net carbs.

  • Vikki

    Otherwise, you cannot call this a true dry matter calculation.

  • Vikki

    Sorry Mike, I meant to say 37% dry matter. Yes, it would be 43% if you are not subtracting the moisture content, but dry matter calculations have to account for moisture. 100-(27+17+4.4+8+10)=34%carbs. The 10 in this calculation is the %moisture remaining in the dry food, given on their GA. Then, you must subtract the moisture because dry food brands vary in this, so that you can have a valid dry matter comparison. So you now subtract the moisture content 100%-10%=90% total dry matter. Then (34/90)x100=37%carbohydrate dry matter content, not 43%

  • Crazy4cats

    Our local feed store had a holiday celebration this weekend. There were hay rides and Santa pictures. Also there was a canopy set up with Petcurean reps there as it is a new food being sold there. The reps were so friendly. They were passing out half pound samples of Go and Now Fresh. I probably left with 5 pounds of kibble to try for my dogs and cats. I haven’t been ale to check out what they gave me yet, but I think there may be a turkey flavor for the dogs that might be interesting. There was also Stella and Chewys freeze dried samples. I can’t believe I hang out at feed stores for fun now. Lol!

  • Did you remember to include the ash content? We use 8% for ash (our database average) for every carb estimate on this website.

    Protein + fat + carbs + ash = 100%

    30 + 19 + 43 + 8 = 100%

  • Vikki

    I believe that 43% Carbohydrate dry matter is incorrect. It should state 34%.

  • Dr J

    The argument that HFCS is like sugar is valid to a large degree. What is shocking to me is that the government has been subsidizing corn crops so heavily that an entire market for an artificial product exploded and that this stuff is now being but into everything because it is a cheap “filler”….Look at when we started to get fat. Yep it coincides with the introduction of HFCS and the super gulp…..

  • Shawna

    Got it ๐Ÿ™‚ Totally agree, HFCS is in everything!!!!

    A year or so ago, I watched an extremely interesting, to me at least, video presentation by Dr. Robert Lustig called “Sugar” The Bitter Truth” (regarding the affects of fructose in excess amounts on the liver). Not sure of the scientific credibility but it was interesting.

  • Dr J

    Ups, I think that is an English term for HFCS or maybe my brain made a German to English translation. Yes it is the same because the syrup is made from the starch.

  • Shawna

    I wanted to clarify my position here…

    You wrote “An interesting point is that he claims that older animals need MORE protein, which is in contrast to other claims that they need less. Personally I do not see a reason for dogs to have a drastic change in protein levels through out their lives.”

    I completely agree with that statement WHEN the dog/cat is being fed “species appropriate” amounts of protein to begin with.

  • Shawna

    Primal venison has bone in it??

    Edit — Oops, just read the “lightly cook” post..

  • Shawna

    I gotta give you props Aimee, you are really really good at dodging questions. Thanks

  • aimee

    You are assuming I think there is one ideal. As I have said before I prefer fresh over kibble, cooked over raw.

  • Shawna

    I really like quinoa and buckwheat. I purchased amaranth but never did anything with it :). Never tried the other three. Might have to do that…

    I gave the dogs quinoa once. Noticed what appeared to be a worm in one’s poo. Deep sigh of relief when I realized it was the quinoa tail.. ๐Ÿ™‚ More recently I topped their food with PetKind tripe (and quinoa). Most of them had diarrhea from it…?? They do fine on tripe and the original quinoa feeding didn’t produce diarrhea so not sure what happened but most of mine have fuzzy butts so no more PetKind for them…

  • Dr J

    Sure they can do so, that is why I said “preferential” carnivore. Ours are so flexible they even include horse manure in their diet ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Shawna

    Sorry, disqus is only showing some of the comments from last night. Can’t see many that I know were posted.

    What is the “ideal” feeding practice in your opinion aimee – grains/no grains, high/moderate protein, kibble/fresh?

  • Dr J

    The worst offender is corn starch syrup, because that crap pops up in pretty much any processed food. I love ancient grains such as farro, quinoa (granted this is a seed rather than a grain), amaranth, spelt and kamut. They seem to have a much stronger flavor than their newer cousins.

  • aimee

    I clarified this for losul last night

    “I agree that we don’t have any real evidence as to what is the “right
    number” I think dogs are flexible and can thrive on a variety of feeding

  • Shawna

    Sorry, my mistake..

    I agree with you — too many. And to take it a step further, not processed in a fashion that makes them the most nutritious as our ancestors apparently did — such as sprouting.

  • aimee


  • aimee

    I use it but I do cook the non HPP raw.

  • Dr J

    I did not say humans should not eat grains. I said we eat too many processed grains…..

  • Shawna

    I need to clarify aimee, when you say you agree with Dr J’s statement, which part are you agreeing with? The part about dogs, and humans, should not be fed grains?

  • Dr J

    I am an atheist but have no issues with somebody believing in whatever God they prefer to believe in. Science and faith can go hand in hand if one is capable to accept that the world is older than 6000 years…. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Just look at the head of the NIH Francis Collins. Yes plenty of people mock him for his faith, but he is still a world class scientist.

  • Dr J

    With “we” I meant the collective on this board, since everybody has their opinion and is not shy in letting the collective “we” know ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • InkedMarie

    Before I had ever seen Darwins, I had tried one little bag of NV medallions and a sleeve of Stella & Chewys. When I opened the Darwins, I immediately realized how little the others looked like meat

  • Hound Dog Mom

    How so? Here’s the entire post:

    “I’m not suggesting science doesn’t help us better understand
    how nutrients work but look at where science has led us as it pertains
    to food – processed pellets for our pets, GMOs, synthetic vitamins and
    minerals, etc.

    Since we’re on a dog food blog let’s take for example the fact that
    the majority of vets would vehemently defend the idea that kibble is
    superior to a balanced (note balanced) diet of whole foods because it’s
    “backed by research”, “contains ideal ratios of nutrients”, etc. etc.
    Yet, I’m not aware of any studies that have actually compared the long
    term health implications of the two. That’s one of the biggest head
    scratchers I’ve ever come across – how such educated individuals as
    veterinarians can support the idea of feeding pets (what is essentially)
    a processed meal replacement, for life because of “science.” No human
    nutritionist or dietician would support a human eating a scientifically
    formulated meal replacement bar at every meal for life, what’s the

    So we’re back to the same conundrum. You’re suggesting that you disagreed with the rest of my post – so there’s the rest. Therefore, you are now saying that you disagree that kibble, GMOs and synthetic nutrients are bad? So are you retracting your prior statements that you dislike processed foods? Or do you agree with my statement that science led us astray with GMOs and kibble, etc.?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    You’re using a non-HPP raw?! I knew that you used S&C but I would have never thought you’d use non-HPP.

  • losul

    what do you simmer it a bit?

  • losul

    I don’t have any huge bias against them either when properly prepared and as long as they aren’t a main, major, or LT component.

  • aimee

    I don’t have any bias against grains

  • aimee

    Not the one I’m using ( venison). The Stella and Chewys raw frozen is and it def. is a different texture

  • losul

    Yes, but I meant the whole statement, as in the part about the grains.

  • losul

    Is the primal HPP?

  • aimee

    I agree that we don’t have any real evidence as to what is the “right number” I think dogs are flexible and can thrive on a variety of feeding methodologies.

  • aimee

    Well it is really no different than what I’ve done in the past. I use it as a topper. I do lightly cook the Primal though.

  • losul

    Wow. just wow. The whole statement?

  • losul

    Oh wow, Aimee, you totally blew my socks off with that. I’m happy for you and your dogs, that is provided you are going to actually feed it, and not just perform some kind of experiment with it. ๐Ÿ˜‰ thumbs up!

  • aimee

    I’m not sure who you mean by “we” are arguing. But I agree with your statement.

  • aimee

    Isn’t he the guy whose book is in our library : )

  • Dr J

    I am an atheist, now that will get me into hot waters, but I have no problems with peoples believes, because that is a personal matter. Who is Francis Collins …..

  • Dr J

    Forget balance in this argument…..None of my vets ever told me to only feed kibble. Several vets were mix it up, but make sure that if you feed raw that bacteria might become an issue.

  • aimee

    Oh gosh… yes I take it all back I never allow my dogs to eat anything other than processed kibble. LOL Too funny! Reminds me of a recent social gathering where my husband was the center of attention because he is a scientist, an evolutionist and a devout Catholic. People somehow thought if you are a scientist that means you can’t/don’t believe in God.

  • aimee

    Do vets recommend kibble over fresh balanced diets? I don’t know that they do. The key being balanced.

  • Dr J

    You cannot do this. We scientific people only feed our dogs scify diets like freeze dried strawberry ice cream….please retract the fact that you even consider feeding your dogs real meat…;)

  • aimee

    I don’t recall HDM mentioning or asking the fat content of the diet and we were discussing protein but the info is there for all to see. You make it sound like I was trying to hide something lol

    So yes dogs like fat… and when offered carb in the form of sugar they ate significant amounts of that too.

  • aimee

    LOL I’ve said that many times in the past. You must have just missed it!

    As long as I’ve already blown your mind tonight I’ll let you know that I have Primal raw in my freezer and Stella and chewy’s freeze dried raw on my shelf : )

  • Dr J

    I am intrigued that we are arguing about X% protein and Y% fat while there is no real evidence that X or Y is the right number. I think dogs should not be feed grains, because that is not part of the original diet, just like humans, we eat too many processed grains.
    I personally would not feed my dogs Purina, but that is a personal choice, because since I changed to grain free our pack has been doing so much better. The old ones have stopped having ear infections and stopped liking their feet. The young ones have never seen a diet including grains and they have done very well, and have beans to fight for hours on end. All of that is only my anecdotal evidence and I would never dare say that this is more than that.
    It is up to every dog parent to know what is best for the pack.

  • Dr J

    Houndog, really you are now starting to quote snippets of entire conversations….you are clinging to straws now..

  • Shawna

    Can we assume then that vets and others who recommend kibble over fresh balanced diets either 1. Do not have our pet’s health as their top priority or 2. Are not educated enough in nutrition to know they are recommending an “unnatural form of food”.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    “Kibble is fed for cost and convenience.”

    Never thought I’d see the day. My mind is blown at that statement coming from Aimee.

  • Shawna

    Well there you go!! Thanks!!!!!!

    (PS — interesting that the fat content of those diets didn’t come up in the original conversation – even after HDM mentioned it.)

  • aimee

    Feel free to! As I’ve said kibble is fed for cost and convenience!

  • aimee

    Sure!! I have no problem with fat in the diet as long as the dog isn’t fat intolerant as my dog was). When dogs are allowed to choose level of nutrients they chose something like 27% protein calories 7 % carb and the balance fat. ( from memory) Oddly enough cats chose a higher carb content than dogs! 12 % from memory.

    I chose to meet my dog’s energy needs with carb vs fat as it allows her to eat a higher volume of food.

  • Shawna

    “I wouldn’t say I use science as a reason to feed these products so much
    so that when feeding an unnatural form of food ( kibble) I’d like to
    know that the company making what I’m feeding meet certain criteria”

    I’m bookmarking this statement Aimee….. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Shawna

    So you think the high fat content of milk, as HDM pointed out in that conversation, is suitable for post weaning as well then?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Now I know you’re the one now following along. ๐Ÿ™‚

    How about checking the post I made 11 hours ago in which I stated “I’m not suggesting science doesn’t help us better understand how nutrients work”

  • Dr J

    That was never the premisses of this discussion, Now how about your thoughts about science as the basis of understanding nutrition.

  • aimee

    Hi Dr. J,

    LOL I’m the “she” that Shawna is referring to. My position is you can’t “reason” science but you should “make reasonable conclusions based on all available data” I look to peer reviewed credible journals for data.

    My hubby’s PhD is in molecular and cell biology. I’ve learned a lot from him but I myself also have a quite a number of credit hours in various fields of science ( off the top of my head 25 credit hours in physiology…. I love physiology !)

    I don’t know that we would think our opinions are vastly different.

    I feed a mixture of homemade and commercial foods. I do feed Purina, along with other companies products.

    I wouldn’t say I use science as a reason to feed these products so much so that when feeding an unnatural form of food ( kibble) I’d like to know that the company making what I’m feeding meet certain criteria.

    P.S. I’m also the person who posted Wannemachers work. I think the context was the OP said AAFCO protein min was the min to sustain life and I said the min to sustain life was much lower. I’ve also recently brought up that bitch’s milk ( even when the bitch is on high protein diet) is around 28% protein calories.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    So you agree with me then. Great! I feel the same way. I don’t each much processed food and neither do my dogs.

  • Dr J


  • Dr J

    Enough to make up my mind.

  • Dr J

    Oh dear, I am getting tired of this argument. I always maintained that a natural nutrition is beneficial compared to some food generated in a lab, that is why I don’t eat ready meals.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I never said that you need Dr. Becker to make up your mind. However you said that her claims are “pseudoscience” but you feed your dogs based on the same principles she promotes. Therefore (according to what you’ve said) you feed your dogs based on psedoscientific claims. Welcome to the club!

  • Shawna

    How much of her material have you actually read?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    You still didn’t answer my question but yes and I never stated otherwise. However you seemed to take extreme offense when I stated I don’t think foods formulated are something that should be formulated in labs and that feeding should be based on nature vs. science. What I’ve been repeatedly trying to ask is why you disagreed with that statement but you don’t seem to want to answer that (I can only assume because there wasn’t a reason).

  • Dr J

    No, I feed them after my personal thoughts. I certainly do not need Dr Becker to make up my mind regarding my feeding practices

  • Shawna

    I agree with you on these points, well mostly…

    Purdue doesn’t have the studies but is one of the sources indicating a senior’s protein needs increase.

    More data from Purina “Senior dogs and cats have a greater need for protein than young adult pets. 4,5”

    I’ve seen the data elsewhere as well — Bovee and Kronfeld I believe.

  • Dr J

    Read my response.

    Do you agree that science explains the fundamentals of nutrition, like calorific content, breakdown, uptake, conversion into energy, catalytic effect of enzymes etc?

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Dr. Becker’s claims are “pseudoscience”? So then you – as someone who feeds raw – feed your dogs based on pseudoscientific claims?

  • Dr J

    The world is a twisted place, and if somebody is selling overpriced supplements on the back of here pseudo scientific claims, yes then that person is ruthlessly milking people for monetary gain.

    The concept is simple; saw enough doubt that the reader starts feeling guilty that there beloved dog does not get the right nutrition…then say “hey look I have just what you need to soothen your conscience”…and now pay me a premium for the supplement. Kind of twisted….

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Yes, I’ve read yours but it appears that you haven’t read mine. I’ll ask again. ๐Ÿ™‚

    So then you do agree with my statement that a natural approach is best when it comes to nutrition?


  • Dr J

    Do you read my comments or do you read them only selectively, or do you try to argue for the arguments sake? I will state it once again. I use science to understand the fundamentals of nutrition, but I try to use as many natural products as possible to feed my family and my dogs.

  • Dr J

    Without having read the study I am reluctant to comment on this. However, my gut feeling is that these levels are way to low for an animal that is a carnivore. Yes one can survive on minimal amounts, but it is it a good idea to run on a minimal diet? I would put the protein requirements at least twice as high. An interesting point is that he claims that older animals need MORE protein, which is in contrast to other claims that they need less. Personally I do not see a reason for dogs to have a drastic change in protein levels through out their lives. Again this is obviously borne out of the parallels one can draw to their ancestral fellows. I am sure that dogs are probably a little better suited to digesting carbs than wolves but in real terms we should not forget that 50’000 years is a rather short evolutionary span, especially since grain cultivation is only going on for about 10’000 years. This gives roughly 1000 generations of dogs, that may have been exposed to more carbs in their diet…..not that much in terms of developing an entire subset of enzymes required for the breakdown of carbs.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    So you – as someone who supports the idea of raw feeding – dislike the idea that Dr. Becker has found a platform in which to communicate the importance of species-appropriate raw feeding to the masses? You think she’s doing it only for monetary gain, not because she’s a veterinarian and wants to help animals? I think she’s so passionate about the importance of species-appropriate diet that that is why she’s gone to the lengths she has. I’m not saying money doesn’t factor in at all (in fact I’m certain that’s why she sells numerous supplements that have hefty markups versus just recommending other products currently on the market) but to believe that she’s just a business woman “ruthlessly” “milking” people for monetary gain is a very twisted way of thinking.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Sorry but I’m completely lost as to what point (if any) you’re trying to make. You were quick to jump in and disagree with my statement that I believe that we should look to Mother Nature when it comes to nutrition (raw feeding) rather than scientifically formulated foods (veterinary recommended kibble products). You then proceeded to state your views concerning canine nutrition which are, essentially, the same as mine. So then you do agree with my statement that a natural approach is best when it comes to nutrition?

  • Shawna

    I actually agree with your points here…

    Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of carbohydrates in a dog’s diet? Can there be too much?

    The below comment was brought up by another poster.

    “Wannemacher’s protein studies demonstrated that by feeding approx. 5% of calories as protein a dog is in protein balance. This is a level considered the minimum to sustain life ( for an adult dog).

    In that study optimum protein stores and function was achieved when
    12% of calories were fed as protein and with seniors at 18%.”

    Any thoughts about optimum protein or 12%?

  • Dr J

    the beauty of science is that it is open to interpretation. It becomes dangerous when people treat it in a dogmatic fashion. Nothing is absolute, because it is process of progressive understanding and learning. Each individual study is only a tiny cogwheel in the grander scheme. Some theories are put forward and gain acceptance through further research, others are an isolated observance and are dismissed through further studies.

    Dogs are probably best described as “preferential” carnivores. They will choose meat every time it is available but can survive for some time on plant based materials if need be.

  • Dr J

    And what is wrong with this statement? How else but through science do you understand nutrition? All the values quoted by Mike on this web-page is based on scientific analysis. Science figured out how much protein is in meat etc, what the recommended daily values are, how proteins are synthesized, how diseases progress. All these are natural processes explained by science.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Then why did you take issue with me stating that I prefer the view points of those like Dr. Mercola that prefer more natural diets despite the fact that they may not be supported by science?


    “Science is great and it has its purpose for sure, but some things just shouldn’t be explained by people in white lab coats with test tubes – like nutrition. Nutrition is one of the things in which we should look
    to Mother Nature.”

    Your Response:

    “Why should nutrition not be explained by people who work in a lab and have a profound understanding of physiology?”

  • Shawna

    Although it wasn’t directly stated, I think HDM may be discussing “science” in general not what you do.. There is another on this site that bases her decisions on science and although she does add some fresh foods (mainly veggies I believe) to her kibbled diet, she feeds and supports foods such as Hills, Iams and Purina. She also vehemently argues dogs are omnivores, based on science, not carnivores.

    If she bases her opinions on science and you base yours on science, yet the two opinions are vastly different, does science really have the answers?

    Edit – she uses science as a reason to feed foods such as Hills and Purina (feeding trials etc)

  • Dr J

    Where did I say that…..where? I use science to explain how things happen. I use common sense to decide what I eat and what I feed. Not sure how much science you need to come to the conclusion that carnivores eat meat and that the dogs ancestor was eating it raw. And now for the third time, I feed them a mix of kibble, raw and home cooked foods.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    The contradiction is that you’re saying you use science to back your food choices yet you feed your dogs raw. Provide me with the science backing raw diets for dogs.

  • Dr J

    Where is the contradiction? I use science to explain nature. There is no contradiction in this. I don’t need the Mercola to point out the painfully obvious, that natural produce is better than factory produced ready meals and fast food.

    i support and love raw foods for many reasons, that includes veggies. i eat plenty of raw beets, turnips, carrots, broccoli, cauliflowers, asparagus etc, because I like it and cooking does destroy some of the nutritional benefits (explained by science). I also eat beef tartar, poke, sushi, crevice etc.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I believe that you may need to re-read what I wrote. Nowhere did I make any assumptions as to what foods you prefer to feed your animals, in fact I didn’t even bring you up. I stated that “most vets” prefer processed kibbles that have been “scientifically proven” to homemade diets that utilize whole foods.

    However, now that you mention what you feed your animals I believe that you seem to have contradicted yourself. You disagreed with me when I stated that I feel that nutritious food is not something that can or should be created in a lab and that I agree with Dr. Mercola’s (and other similar) standpoints that a natural diet is best for long term health. This is the exact antithesis of the beliefs held by the majority of the veterinary community. Yet you then follow up with a post stating that you support feeding raw foods – a feeding style that has no scientific evidence to back it. So what is it, science or nature?

  • Dr J

    I am not sure where you got the idea that I prefer the use of processed foods for man or beast over a nature based diet. We eat very rarely food that has been processed. Yes our dogs get kibble, but they always get raw meat with it. Now that we have a lot more space but not yet the capabilities we are seriously thinking of switching them to a raw and home cooked diet.

    What I am defending is the fact that science helps us understand how food uptake works and what the important elements are. Without science there would be little to no understanding of all the diseases that have plagued living creatures.

  • Dr J

    Is that not in line of what I have said to sugar. This is one study from 1999 and I have not seen much to follow on.

  • Hound Dog Mom

    I’m not suggesting science doesn’t help us better understand how nutrients work but look at where science has led us as it pertains to food – processed pellets for our pets, GMOs, synthetic vitamins and minerals, etc.

    Since we’re on a dog food blog let’s take for example the fact that the majority of vets would vehemently defend the idea that kibble is superior to a balanced (note balanced) diet of whole foods because it’s “backed by research”, “contains ideal ratios of nutrients”, etc. etc. Yet, I’m not aware of any studies that have actually compared the long term health implications of the two. That’s one of the biggest head scratchers I’ve ever come across – how such educated individuals as veterinarians can support the idea of feeding pets (what is essentially) a processed meal replacement, for life because of “science.”

  • Pattyvaughn

    Night, Johnboy. Night, Mary Ellen.