Diamond Issues Yet Another Dog Food Recall

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May 18, 2012 — Diamond Pet Foods has announced yet another voluntary dog food recall involving one more of its products due to possible contamination with Salmonella bacteria.

The event was reported by the company in a news release dated May 18, 2012 and was confirmed by the FDA in a news release dated May 18, 2012.

The recall includes Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Dog Lamb and Rice Formula samples, 6 pound and 18 pound bags manufactured on Aug. 26, 2011.

Salmonella infections can affect both humans and non-human animals and are the result of ingesting contaminated food.

What Products Are Being Recalled?

The recall includes Diamond Naturals Small Breed Adult Dog Lamb and Rice Formula with the following bag codes and “Best Before” dates:

  • Bag Code DSL0801 26-Aug-2012
  • Bag Code DSL0801 26-Aug-2012
  • Bag Code DSL0801 27-Sept-2012 (Product manufactured on August. 26, 2011 and packaged on September 27, 2011)
  • Bag Code DSL0801 18-Oct- 2012 (Product manufactured on August 26, 2011 and packaged on October 18, 2011)
  • Bag Code DSL0801 Samples

Where Were the Recalled Products Sold?

The recall affects products distributed in the following U.S. states:

  • Colorado
  • Illinois
  • Kentucky
  • Louisiana
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Missouri
  • Oklahoma
  • Pennsylvania
  • South Dakota
  • Tennessee
  • Texas
  • Wisconsin

What to Do?

Salmonella is serious business — for both you and your pet. So, if you can confirm your dog’s food is one of the products being recalled, stop feeding or handling it immediately.

If you’ve discarded the packaging (something we recommend you never do) – or you’re in any way in doubt – do not take chances. Be safe. Stop feeding the product anyway.

As far as what to do with your recalled product, the company suggests:

Pet owners who are unsure if the product they purchased is included in the recall, or who would like replacement product or a refund, may contact Diamond Pet Foods via a toll free call at 866-918-8756, Monday through Sunday, 8 AM to 6 PM EST

You can report complaints about FDA-regulated pet food products by calling the consumer complaint coordinator in your area.

Or go to http://www.fda.gov/petfoodcomplaints.

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  • neezerfan

    I’m sorry your dog is sick. Please be aware that other “brands” of food are manufactured in Diamond facilities. Taste of the Wild is one. I don’t know the others off the top of my head.

  • common sense

    So sorry to hear this about your dog. This was taken off all the shelves in Florida last year 2012. But then came back onto the shelves 2013. Lately my dogs have been snubbing their noses at this when I feed them. I am definitely going to stop feeding them this brand for good now after reading your post. Thanks for posting.

  • Shelley Watts

    Thank you.

    Shelley Watts

    Kingston, PE

  • losul

    Hi Shelly. It would be a good idea to sign up for recall EM notification from this site.

    http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-recall-alerts/

  • Shelley Watts

    I am from Eastern Canada and May 2012 my labradoodle who was just 2 yrs 4 mths old stopped eating her food – she had her 3rd large bag of Diamond Naturals food. Today Nov 2013 she is still alive BUT she has been diagnosed with kidney and liver disease and there is no cure. I still till this day say it is because of this dog food and it not being recalled in Canada until I notified the US company that it was sold in Canada and I had the lot numbers. To my utter amazement the only comment I got from the manufacturer was an offer to replace the dog food. You have got to be flipping kidding me was my response. I feel sorry for folks who got caught with this dog food and suffered more serious issues then I am dealing with my labradoodle. Fortunately for me – Teaghan would not eat any more of the food and thus I knew instantly something was wrong – checked the website to see if ingredients/etc got changed and saw the recalls in the US, phoned to see if the lot numbers were available on a remote chance that perhaps this was the issue – what a surprise when I had the same lot numbers on the bags I had here and the surprise of the folks on the other end when they tried to tell me the food was not sold in Canada and that I could not have purchased it at a local pet store here in Eastern Canada. No I got no satisfaction from this company but I can guarantee they will never ever get one penny of my money again for pet food of any kind. I am spending that money on trying to keep my labradoodle alive. Please folks make sure you tell others who have pets to check the recalls, pay attention to your dog and if it does not want to eat its food pay attention to that for there is a very good reason why. Don’t find out the hard way like a lot of us did.

  • caroline

    Did they tell you that you would have to file your claim with Diamond or the company that re-branded it? Costco is telling us we have to file a claim with Daimond but they re-branded to Kirkland. My research so far finds the company who re-brands should take responsibility and then bring the case to the manufacturer after settling with the customer.

  • Caroline

    We bought a bag of Costco/Kirkland brand dog food, made by Diamond Corporation. Got it at the Fort Worth, TX Costco location. Bag was contaminated with Salmonella. Made 4 dogs very sick. One of which died after only 2 feedings (she was a nursing momma). Costco said that they accept NO responsibility. Offered us a $100 gift card though. They stated that there have been no recalls for several years and that there were no recalls out of Texas. When we brought the bag of food in when we came into the warehouse to file our report, Costco took the dog food back, refunded our money for that bag and then took our report. After all of this, their final decision that they are not liable was stated that we had NO evidence and that the bag of food they took back was “lost”. I have $1200 in vet bills + the value of my dog.

  • Caroline

    PLEASE post your complaints on Pissed off Consumer.com & Rip Off Report.com as well as the FDA. Here’s the link to the FDA: http://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/SafetyHealth/ReportaProblem/ucm182403.htm

  • Caroline

    I don’t think it’s salmonella. I was told it was a different strain. Dogs can eat raw chicken! They usually DON’T get salmonella! Killed my dog after 2 feedings! I think the government is allowing all of this… using our dogs as guinea pigs to know what works to kill fast. More biological warfare.

  • Caroline

    We bought a bag of Costco/Kirkland Brand dog food, made by Diamond Corporation in November of 2012 from the Fort Worth, TX Costco. Fed our dog 2 feedings from the bag. All of our dogs were sick. Our dog whom was a nursing mother of 4 week old pups never came out of being sick. Shut down her kidney’s. She died a month later. Costco offered us a $100 gift card but accepts NO responsibility. They claim that there have been no recalls since 2009 and that there were no recalls out of TX. From the reports I have found all over the internet, Costco is not telling me the truth. I have $1200 in vet bills and the loss of my dog.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fiona.vega.75 Fiona Vega

    Someone knowledgeable in this subject should get a petition going on change.org (requiring manufacturer and origin -at a minimum). I’d sign it.

  • collie lover

    According to our vet, our dog got colitis from eating Diamond
    made Costco kibble. When Diamond said it couldn’t be from their food, I
    suggested they have us take our dog to the vet of their choosing. They didn’t
    want to do that. So after $2000.00 worth of vet bills, all we got was a $100 courtesy
    card for Costco. If Diamond really stood behind their produce, they would have:
    1-have our dog go to their vet and 2-if their vet had agreed the colitis was
    from their food, they should have offered to pay for all of the vet bills. What
    they offered was a slap and showed to me that they only care for their profits.
    JMHO

  • Austin

    Thanks a lot for the tip Hound Dog Mom! Take care. xx

  • Hound Dog Mom

    Hi Austin,

    If you’re food wasn’t included in one of the recalled batches it should be fine. If you would like to avoid diamond in the future however, some other non-diamond foods that are of similar quality and similar price are: Whole Earth Farms, Harmony Farms, Eagle Pack, NutriSource, Nutro Max, and Nature’s Recipe.

  • Austin

    I just bought a bag of Diamond Naturals Chicken and Rice dog food online. When it arrives, I will check the production code and if the date falls into the expiration ranges. Will I be safe since it’s 2-3 months later? Or should I return the product as soon as I get it…

  • aimee

    Mike,
     I totally agree that the issues of pentobarb residue or the possibility of a food containing euthanized pets are two separate ones.

    I concur with you that poultry products would be very unlikely to contain pentobarb. However, because pentobarb is used to euth livestock traces of it could be found in any rendered ingredient sourced from those animals.. named or unnamed.

    I don’t think that any animal euthanized should find it’s way into the pet market and I’d hope that that issue has changed BUT as a realist I think it could be ongoing.

    In regards to euthanized dogs and cats in pet foods I know it was never verified via DNA probes but I’m also not naive enough to believe it has never occurred.

    However, I also think that large companies due to the  sheer volume of product needed contract through integrated USDA facilities and therefore would not have euthanized pets in the mix. My concern would be primarily with smaller companies that have an unnamed source on their label. 

    I think we all can agree that we would like to know exactly what we are feeding our pets by having the sources for all ingredients clearly labeled as to their species of origin.

    My comment to Shawna was to ask for clarification as to how she is applying the data from the FDA study. If you are going to call the kettle(companies whose products contain unnamed rendered sources which may contain pento) black  than you have to call the pot( companies that use named sources found to contain pento) black as well. : )

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Aimee,

    I think we need to differentiate between the issue of a food containing the drug, pentobarbital versus one containing euthanized cats and dogs,

    What I find more revealing but apparently overlooked is this statement by the FDA:

    The selection of products based on specific animal-derived ingredients would tend to increase the likelihood of finding pentobarbital given the assumption that pentobarbital in dog food comes from euthanized animals.

    To me, this statement apparently presumes that certain species are less likely to have been euthanized than others. Right?

    For example, since it’s highly unlikely a turkey or a chicken is ever “euthanized” with pentobarbital, a named poultry meal is not likely to ever contain this chemical agent.

    Agreed, beef cattle can be euthanized. However, the likelihood of a beef meal ingredient would contain euthanized cats or dogs would be negligible.

    Of course, I realize that many – like Shawna – are rightfully concerned with the presence of the drug itself.

    However, speaking for myself (and probably the unsuspecting public, too), I’m more concerned about the presence of euthanized companion animals (a.k.a. “pets”) in my dog’s food.

    Not the drug.

    That’s why it would just seem completely logical that an ingredient described as “meat” or “animal” is far more likely to contain euthanized cats or dogs than one described on a label as “beef meal”.

  • aimee

    Mike,

    What I was referring to was the information in survey number 1. The first two products listed on that chart  name the rendered ingredient tested as “beef meal”  not “beef and bone meal” and both samples tested positive to pentobarbital residue.

    I see this FDA document as an investigation into rendered ingredients and seeking an answer to the question ”can pento residues be found in pet foods using rendered ingredients”  and the answer was yes.

    The FDA reports the findings as “There appear to be associations between rendered or hydrolyzed ingredients and
    the presence of pentobarbital in dog food” The FDA doesn’t distinguish between named and unnamed ingrediets and since “natural flavor” is a hydrolysed ingredient nearly all foods become suspect.

     If one is going to use this report to advise against certain foods on the basis of possible pento residues than all foods containing rendered ingredients have to be listed as suspect regardless if they are named or not as this is what the FDA reported.   

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi Aimee,

    To my mind, Shawna’s interpretation of the FDA study is valid. Although her use of the phrase “purposefully putting our pets at risk…” may have been more appropriately worded with “knowingly” or “possibly”, her criticism of companies that use these kinds of ingredients in their pet foods is surely fitting.

    When in your comment you spotlighted the “two samples of beef meal” to make your point that the issue “wasn’t confined to unnamed rendered ingredients” you may have been stretching the truth of the Agency’s conclusion.

    The FDA was actually referring to “beef and bone meal” – not “beef meal”. Compared to beef meal, beef and bone meal is only rarely used to make pet food. I searched our entire database of recipes and only found beef and bone meal in 3 product lines:

    Beef and More Dog Food
    Kibbles ‘n Bits
    Kibbles ‘n Bits Bistro Meals

    All 3 of these brands are typically considered by most to be relatively low quality (cheap) dog foods. So, I believe it’s probably not reasonable to lump beef and bone meal together with the majority of named ingredients – like beef meal – in making your argument.

    No matter how you look at it, virtually all the rendered ingredients mentioned in the FDA study are most likely less costly to the manufacturer.

    And therefore, unless each batch is tested by the manufacturer and then publicly certified to be free of pentobarbital, then I believe it’s appropriate to flag these ingredients as suspicious.

    And this – of course – begs the real question…

    Why do pet food manufacturers use cheaper, low quality rendered animal ingredients in their products that government testing has clearly demonstrated “COULD include euthanized animals”?

    Maybe its OK for some to take that risk, but for Bailey and Molly, I’ll forever avoid any products that contain such inferior and risky ingredients.

  • aimee

    Shawna,
     
    The FDA article cautions it’s readers to not apply this information as a way of predicting which foods may or  may not contain pentobarbital at the time of the study or in the future if it even is still occurring.
     
     ”survey information does not predict the likelihood of pentobarbital in a
    particular brand of dog food on the market today or in the future. Pet food
    formulations that had detectable pentobarbital levels when the samples were
    collected may be free of pentobarbital now. FDA has no way to know whether pet
    food brands that were not sampled had pentobarbital residues.”

    I know pentobarb is a hot button issue of yours. The two samples of beef meal tested were both positive for pento so this issue wasn’t confined to unnamed rendered ingredients.

    Do you think every company that uses rendered meat  including named meats is ”purposefully putting our pets at an increased risk of ill health”?

  • LabsRawesome

     Mrdog, Kirkland is cheap for a reason. It obviously isn’t going to have the best, most expensive ingredients in it. That is common sense. The ingredients are decent though, and lots of dogs do really well on it. You should always wash your hands after feeding ANY dog food/treat, that is also common sense. In most cases, you really do get what you pay for.  :)

  • Johnandchristo

    Mrdog…

    why do you do the third person thing, surly not to make people take seriously? 

  • Mrdog

    Since my final comment was deleted for whatever reason, I will try to post my final one last time.  I know that I have ruffled a few feathers, and some have called me names, but sometimes a critic saying what is on his mind and letting the chips fall where they may, results in improvement in the end. Some below may assume I mainly bought kirkland/Diamond because of this site, but that would be incorrect. Its price for 40 lbs., for what I appeared to be getting, was the main factor, and I know that many are in the same boat with big dog(s) that eat alot and the economy being what it is.  I certainly don’t blame anyone at this site for the food, or my purchasing it, but my issues with the continued good rating that others may look at, post recent recall, are more than well detailed below.  So what dog food now for MrDog?  In the price range similar to Kirklands there is slim pickings.  But like Diogenese the philosopher who spent his whole life looking for an honest man, Mrdog is continuing to look for a reasonably priced, quality controlled, and healthful dog food.   And for those of you that will remain with Kirkland because of price concerns, please wash your hands very well after feeding the dog and check your recall info.  Thanks and Goodbye.  

  • LabsRawesome

     Mrdog, too bad you didn’t do research on Diamond brands BEFORE you bought them. This website is just one tool, you should always research ANY dog food that you are planning on using. Research the manufacturer, past history of recalls, and any other issues the company might have. You can research a food in a few minutes on the internet. Stop blaming other people for your laziness. We all got it, you don’t like Diamond. No matter how many times you repeat the same post, I doubt Mike is going to change his whole entire site just for you.

  • melissa

    Mrdog-

    Ben and Jerry’s was probably perfectly safe, unless of course you had an allergy to an ingredient, lol.

    While I am not a fan of Diamond made foods, recalls have nothing to do with Mike’s reviews-as he has clearly indicated-just the disclosed ingredients.

    I get really sick of everyone “passing the buck”. You fed Kirkland for over a year. Where does owner accountability come into play? You could have easily researched this food and manufacturer(and should have) before feeding it. I do not rely on any one source for all the information, however I also feel as the owner, its up to me to perform due diligence before making a decision.

    I would have argued in the past that “past recalls do not indicate future ones” but my thinking on this has changed. I do believe that companies who have shown repetitive failures in quality control are more likely to have recalls in the future. I just look at it now as “not if, but when” and past recalls now weigh heavily in my decisions(not just recalls, but what the recalls involved, how was the response etc)

  • Toxed2loss

    Actually, contradicting Dr. Sagman is o.k. It’s being rude or demeaning that violates the site behavior policy. It’s the same as someone coming into your home and treating you rudely. You came onto his site, insulted him, and his work, and behaved extremely rudely. If it was up to me, I’d have warned you once and booted you. I have no tolerance for disrespect. If you’d bothered to read the site policies and D. Sagman’s explanation of how he rates the foods and why, you would have behaved differently. Your bad!

  • Mrdog

    Apparently, contradicting Mr Sagman, and arguing with his ratings, is frowned upon by labsrawesome and this site, even in the interest of helping dogs.  I know I am not a dog food expert like him, but this is my last post and maybe someone will read my priors and maybe I saved one persons pet from this food.  At least he posts the recalls, and possibly that will help someone to put the pieces together.  Goodbye.

  • Shawna

    Have you thought about starting your own ratings site?

  • LabsRawesome

     Mrdog, Okay, I think we all got it. You don’t like Diamond. You don’t have to be a repeating A**hole.

  • Mrdog

    Thank you Mr. Sagman, but unfortunately Ben and Jerry’s was recalled for not issuing an allergy warning on its completely safe ice cream.  Diamond/Kirkland was recalled for potentially deadly to humans Salmonella bacteria .  And if this were Diamond’s first dangerous recall, then your reasoning might have some merit, but this similar story appeared from MSNBC in 2006:
    “COLUMBIA, S.C. — The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reports that at least 76 dogs nationwide are believed to have died as a result of eating contaminated Diamond Pet Foods.
    The company has recalled 19 varieties of dog and cat food because tests showed high levels of aflatoxin, a naturally occurring toxic chemical that comes from a fungus found on corn and other grains that causes severe liver damage in animals.
    The company recalled products manufactured at its Gaston, S.C., plant from around September to November 2005. ”

    MrDog noted that the 2005 incident resulted in an approximately 3 million dollar Diamond settlement with pet owners .  

    In sum, the Kirkland ingredient labels appear healthy to the armcahir observer, but in Mr. Dog’s opinion, the dog would have been safer eating the label itself instead of the Kirkland dog food.  The Joe Paterno line of reasoning that past actions do not predict future events doesn’t fly with MrDog.  In the real world,  where the dog food meets the dog, Kirkland has more than once not lived up to the expectations on its ingredients label.  Therfore, Mr. Dog gives Kirkland dog food his lowest paws rating of 0 paws out of a potential 5.  Thanks.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    MrDog,

    Like all pet and human food recalls, the brands of dog foods named in this recall event were NOT recalled – only certain products and product lots.

    Here are just a few well-known “brands” recently involved in food product recalls:

    Ben and Jerry’s
    Dole
    Winn-Dixie
    Purina
    Del Monte
    Kraft Foods
    Planters

    And over the past few years, there have been hundreds of others, too.

    I’m not about to downgrade my personal opinion of Planters Peanuts, Del Monte or Ben and Jerry’s just because these companies experienced a quality control problem with certain product runs.

    What’s more, I’ve never been able to find a scientific peer-reviewed study that proves the fact that any series of recalls can be predictive of a similar future event.

    That is why I choose not to include a company’s recall history in my ratings.

  • LabsRawesome

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  • Mrdog

    I will clarify and I dont mean to argue.  I thought I asked him to lower the rating because Kirkland  was actually recalled for salmonella contamination (that is especailly dangerous for the person feeding the dog the food and the dog), which is valid information to take into account when rating a dog food.  I bought Diamond with the thought it was healthy for the dog.  I dont care which dog food he gives any rating to or whether my dog enjoys it.  I would just like to see some greater accuracy, and scientific, fact-based help for people wanting to feed thir pet something healthy, and not just a load of assumptions and stars based on what a dog food co. sales dept. can put on the bag and get past the govt.   

  • LabsRawesome

     Seriously, that stuff makes me GAG. lol

  • Hound Dog Mom

    If foods should have less stars because they smell rancid then Tripett should be re-rated as 1 star. lol.

  • Pattyvaughn

    Mrdog

    That’s why the greatest feature of this website is the fact that we can all leave comments about our personal experience with each food. If you’re interested in a particular food, read the review, and then read what people have to say about it. Then you can make a decision for yourself.

  • LabsRawesome

     Mrdog, you seem to just want to argue. Dr. Mike isn’t going to change the review because YOU think it deserves less stars. Also, I doubt the food smelled rancid to your dog. Dogs absolutely love stinky things, the stinkier the better. Dogs will roll & rub themselves all over a juicy rotting foul smelling dead thing.           Just because your particular dog doesn’t like or won’t eat a food, you think that food deserves less stars? Go and try some other foods, and if your dog doesn’t like them, I’m sure Dr Mike will go back and change all his reviews & give them all less stars, based on your dog’s opinion. Did you read the article that was posted by Dr Mike? It would have answered all your questions.

  • Mrdog

    Mr. Sagman,

    I appreciate your response.  Your rating was based on the reliable information available to you, and you had a theory that based on the ingredients that were listed on the package, that the Kirkland food deserved a high rating.  But, other updated  and contradictory information is being presented about Diamond, and to stick to your guns despite the facts is to say that, in science, the theory trumps the testing, and the score should ignore recalls and the actual dogs interaction with that food.  I could validly question why a dog who will even eat wooden puzzles pieces would turn his nose up at a product where the first ingredient in purported to be  chicken.   My guess is that it wasnt chicken or that it was so rancid the Lab dog, who has a smell 200 times greater than a human, could tell and walked away.

  • http://DogFoodAdvisor.com/ Mike Sagman

    Hi MrDog,

    I can certainly understand your criticism of my rating for a product that’s been involved in a recall.

    However, my ratings have nothing whatsoever to do with recalls. And they never will. They’re based strictly upon my evaluation of the government regulated label. And nothing else.

    From that data, I attempt to estimate the amount of meat present in each recipe as well as judge the apparent quality of its ingredients.

    However, like with our own human food supply, dog food recalls are inevitable and unpredictable.

    There are hundreds of pet food brands that have never had a recall. And many of them advertise by bragging “we’ve never had a recall”. However, it’s only a matter of time before many of them do.

    Can you (or anyone) predict which ones they will be?

    Trying to choose a human or pet food based upon the likelihood of it becoming involved in a recall event is a fool’s game.

    Your best and only scientifically based defense is to stay informed. And when a recall does occur, simply become aware of it – and act – as quickly soon as possible.

    Hope this helps answer your question.

  • Shawna

    melissa ~~ you have a good point..

    Still doesn’t change my mind however..  In my opinion, pento is not the only thing in rendered ingredients (the ones that would produce un-named ingredients that is).  We know that road kill and diseased animals as well as rancid restaurant fats.  I purposely didn’t put the word pento in my final paragraph because I believe that it is not the only cause of ill health from these rendered products.

    Purina makes Alpo and Beneful after all….. :(

  • Mrdog

    I did not post to support Purina.  The purpose was to point out that if the company has quality control problems as Diamond does then the Dog Food Advisor should be reducing their score.  I had my Black Lab dog on Kirkland Diamond for over a year and I was not that impressed.  The dog must have smelt some contamination because he (who will eat all of anything and everything for twelve years , including childrens toys, wood, any table scraps, grass, vomit and anything else that appears edible) began to only take a couple of bites of Kirkland and leave the rest in the bowl.  I had to go to the grocery store and get him some Dog Chow so he would eat dog food again (which he tore into).  Several days later I got a message from Costco to return the food for a refund.  Purina One, which he is eating now, may stink(he appears to be doing fine on it except he is shedding alot), but advising persons to buy the Diamond/Kirkland  based on their claimed ingredient list is silly science in the face of these recalls.

  • melissa

     Shawna-

    I think both options are bad IF Purina’s meals have pentobarbital in them as of ‘today”. While bone and meat meal etc MAY contain, does not mean DOES contain.

    On the other hand, we know that the things contained in the violations for Diamond are factual, not maybe’s. Someone knowingly used silver tape(Duct tape?) to repair equipment. Someone knew that the paddles in contact with the food had gouges, divets etc that prevented them from being “completely cleaned”. I believe I also read there was a lack of hand cleaning stations and perhaps I am mistaken, but wasn’t someone else seen sticking their hands into the fat and potentially contaminating it? Next we come to the food being made and stored for up to 2 mths before being bagged…and they could not answer the simple question of “how was it stored to prevent contamination?” I have to say, if someone asked me how I store food  I could answer it without hesitation-All of these things seem intentional to me-even if done innocently without taking in to consideration the bigger picture of ramifications.

  • http://www.prairie-creations.com/ Krissy

    Ditto! I couldn’t agree more! Well said!

  • LabsRawesome

     Mrdog, If I had to choose between Purina or Diamond, I would definitely choose A Diamond product. The reviews on this site are based on ingredient lists alone, it is your job/responsibility to check out the manufacturer, and decide if you can personally trust the company. But even then ANY dog food can be the next to have an issue and a recall.

  • LabsRawesome

     Hey Shawna, I agree 100%.  :)

  • Shawna

    I’m not really sure which is worse — salmonella or the euthanasia drug pentobarbital that is possibly slowly poisoning the dogs eating Purina and other foods with animal fat, animal digest and the other pento contaminated foods.

    From the FDA’s website

    “There appear to be associations between rendered or hydrolyzed ingredients and the presence of pentobarbital in dog food. The ingredients Meat and Bone Meal (MBM), Beef and Bone Meal (BBM), Animal Fat (AF), and Animal Digest (AD) are rendered or hydrolyzed from animal sources that could include euthanized animals.”  http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/CentersOffices/OfficeofFoods/CVM/CVMFOIAElectronicReadingRoom/ucm129134.htm

    Although salmonella can make the immune compromised ill, it is a normal constituent of the dogs system.  Most healthy dogs should be able to tolerate small amounts without becoming ill.

    Dr. Karen Becker DVM talks about it in this video  http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2011/02/15/raw-meat-the-best-and-healthiest-diet-for-pet-cats-and-dogs.aspx

    I’m not, btw, making excuses for Diamond — there shouldn’t be salmonella in the food!!!  However, Diamond didn’t purposefully contaminate the food — those companies, like Purina, that use rendered ingredients ARE purposfully putting our pets at an increased risk of ill health.

  • Mrdog

    I really do not know why dog food advisor keeps giving kirkland/diamond high star reviews.  If their quality control is bad then they should get 0 stars. Luckily my dog was refusing to eat this stuff before the recall notice was mailed.  Just because they list healthy looking ingredients, don’t believe it simply because its printed on the bag.  How many stars would they get for salmonella on the ingredient list.  My dog does better on lowly Purina.

  • Kaliberknl

     Please let Mollie know about your experience at http://www.poisonedpet.com

  • melissa

    Concerned2-

    Lol. Stop being so sensitive. I never said YOU added anything-just telling you what the food looks like. I had the same problem with 4Health(made by Diamond for TSC) When it first came out, I figured give them a try and give Diamond another chance. Dogs did very well on it for almost 6-8mths. Then problems started with gas..then, different foods in the bags(the wrong food)  I am thankful that happened or I might have been still using it in the rotation when the salmonella occurred.

  • Peppelapue

    I mailed my refund request to them in May and have yet to receive my check.  They claim they don’t have my submission and will not take “copies” of it.  I am done with them.  I easily spend $600 a year on food.  I hope keeping my $50 was worth it.

  • doggonefedup

    I wonder if Simmons still makes Strong Heart dog food. not that I would consider using it.
     

  • Jess

     Ya know I still feel that those dog food companies knew about the plastic being put in their products and just turned a blind eye. Then everyone blamed Menu, but not me, I blame them all. Heck, sawdust is still being used today…

  • LabsRawesome

     Jess, here’s Simmons site- http://simmonspetfood.simmonsglobal.com/

  • neezerfan

    Thanks for that, Jess. I didn’t have a dog during the time of that whole mess so I was not paying too close attention to it. Of course I know the name Menu foods but did not realize it’s now Simmons.

  • LabsRawesome

     Hey Jess, yeah I knew about Simmons Pet buying out Menu in 2010. I’m surprised that Menu lasted another 3 years after killing all those pets in 2007.

  • Jess

    Did you know this?? Very interesting about menu dog food       then try to find something on  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menu_Foods

    Simmons Pet Food

  • concerned2

     Same exact food at least it was bagged in the same exact bags!!  So if you are implying I added a cup of extreme athlete to the chicken rice you are wrong!!  Done with Diamond!  They are not keeping same formulation in their plants or it is the lack of care or concern in their plants by not bagging correct feeds.  This is beyond BS!!  If you read my comment you would have figured out that I am moving on!!

  • melissa

     concerned2-

    hmm..looks like two different foods to me. The light colored looks like chicken/rice naturals to me-the dark looks like their extreme athelete. But, who knows?!?! I would suggest moving on to another product. 

  • concerned2

     DO NOT TRUST DIAMOND!!!!!  NOTHING THAT COMES FROM THEIR PLANTS!!!!  When emailing customer service I was told how to watch production codes.  The last few bags were absent of the letters X C or M in the production code.  I bought a bag that had fish shaped kibble in it once as I stated below.  All my bags come from the same store.  Last week my dogs refused their food.  I assumed it was because of the heat.  I opened my new bag and was so annoyed.  Same exact formulas different shaped and looking kibble.  SCREW DIAMOND!!!!!!  I put a cup of the bag from last week into the new bag for comparison.  old bag very tiny dark greasy like kibble this bag larger light colored kibble.  I feed the naturals line chicken rice in the burnt orange labeled bag. 

  • Jess