[Nicole H]

My dog started having repeated episodes of bloody diahrea and vomiting clear foamy mucus. Vet did xrays , blood tests and stool tests. Xray was clear and stool tests came back negative. Blood tests showed pancreatitis. He has been on a raw food diet most of his life so the vet figured it was the raw food contributing to these issues and said we should switch him to Royal Canin Gastro low fat kibble. So we stopped the raw and went to the kibble right away. He is still having issues. He will be great for a couple days and then have a bout of bloody diahrrea for a day and then be good again and then a couple days later another flare up. Wondering if this kibble could be the issue? I am at my wits end and no help from the vet but more tests .

[anonymous]

Going back to raw is about the worst possible thing you could do. It may take a long time for the dog to recover from the damage the raw diet has caused. Some of the damage caused by the raw diet may be permanent.

Please continue to work closely with your vet, diet recommendations and all. I would go along with more testing, or ask for a referral to a Veterinary Internal Medicine Specialist.

[Nicole H]

not going to go back to raw diet, just having a hard time understanding why he is good for a couple days and then gets sick again. So many questions, i dont know what to do.

[anonymous]

“pancreatitis”

It doesn’t end just because you change the diet. This may be a lifelong condition.

PS: Pancreatitis, it can be acute or chronic…time will tell.
Consult a specialist if symptoms continue despite diet changes and treatment by your General Practice Vet, within a reasonable amount of time…

[Nicole H]

What would you say is a “reasonable amount of time”?

[Patricia A]

Nicole H I’m curious if ANYTHING had changed in his raw feeding diet when this started? Were any food ingredients added that was new to him? You said he’s been on raw for years with no problem? Was he fed too much of a fatty meat for a few days in a row ? My one dog cannot handle a protein higher in fat and will get diarrhea and vomiting if given two days in a row. I’m not talking raw but when I give cooked food such as dark meat boiled chicken, hamburger that is not 90% lean etc.
Also switching over to kibble right off when his stomach is still very upset is not helping. He didn’t get a chance to get used to that food. That is a BIG switch from raw to kibble.
Maybe to get his stomach settled you can feed WHITE meat only boiled chicken with a little white rice. Then slowly introduce the raw back in with low fat meats??
Although raw feeders don’t believe freeze dried is TRULY raw feeding that is what I feed my two. I always stick to lower fat proteins/flavors in two different brands rotated My dogs do very well on this diet with no tummy trouble. I add some high quality kibble on the side to make the expense of this stretch.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by Patricia A.

[Nicole H]

Thanks Patricia, I appreciate you replying. I can’t think of anything that changed in his raw food diet? I was switching up the different proteins every week or two. Maybe something different triggerd him? I am being very conscious now about fat content in his food since the vet said “pancreatitis”
I wondered if maybe the kibble could be aggravating the situation since he is not used to it.
I got some chicken breasts and have boiled them and been adding that to the kibble. Sounds like maybe I should just do plain boiled chicken breast only for a bit?
at this point I am open to any suggestions and options.

[Nicole H]

another question….
if I do the boiled white meat chicken for a bit, how much should I feed him a day?
He weighs 12 kg

[Patricia A]

You’re welcome Nicole. I hope the boiled white meat chicken n rice settles his stomach like it does for mine. The other week my one had diarrhea after eating and then throwing up her food. Turns out I noticed the next day them scratching at the ground and eating something. I ran over and scraped the ground and saw a few pieces of kibble. My other Chihuahua ran over to another spot and scrapping up and crunching again. The only thing I could think was that a neighbor was feeding a stray cat outside and a squirrel picked up the kibble and buried in different spots. So my one wasn’t bothered by cat kibble but my other most likely was sick from eating a few. Also when her stomach was emptied out from throwing up solid food, she started with the clear bile throw up from empty stomach. . I let her sleep for a few hours before giving just a tiny bit of the chicken with the rice so her stomach was not all empty. Did this for two days and then started her back on her diet and she’s been fine now. I just have to keep watching them in back yard making sure there is no more buried kibble. lol

• This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by Patricia A.

[anonymous]

“What would you say is a “reasonable amount of time”?

Three months without significant improvement. Ten days or sooner if symptoms get worse or are severe.
Ask your General Practice Vet for a referral to a specialist. It may be cost effective in the long run.

You must follow the instructions of your General Practice Vet exclusively, diet and all, if you want to see results.
Listening to folks on the internet/forums will only sabotage the dog’s treatment and decrease the chance for positive results. Stop messing with the dog’s diet. Only feed what the treating vet recommends. You can add water/presoak the kibble if you want.

There are NO veterinarians or veterinary nutritionists affiliated with this site.

• This reply was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by anonymous.

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