Diabetic Dog Food

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The following items represent some of The Dog Food Advisor’s most frequently asked questions about diabetic dog food.

Where can I get suggestions for specific dog foods for my diabetic dog?

Diabetes is a serious condition and can be life threatening. The food you select can play a crucial role in your dog’s treatment. Consult your dog’s veterinarian first for specific product recommendations.

What kinds of foods make the best candidates for my diabetic dog?

Public information regarding canine diabetes and diet appears to be somewhat limited.

To help keep blood sugar stable, one should look for foods that contain moderate dietary fiber and a low-glycemic index.

How much fiber should a diabetic dog consume?

Although higher dietary fiber was initially believed to be beneficial, recent studies have suggested there may be no real advantage to high fiber diets compared to the moderate type associated with most commercial foods.1

What is the glycemic index?

The glycemic index is a scientific measure of how easily a particular food can be converted to blood glucose (sugar).

Dog foods with a low glycemic index exhibit less of a tendency to raise a dog’s blood glucose (sugar) level than others.

What type of dog foods have a lower glycemic index?

In general, dog foods with the lowest carbohydrate content exhibit a lower glycemic index.

Since most kibbles are carbohydrate based, low-carb canned foods should be given serious consideration when selecting candidates for diabetic pets.

Footnotes

  1. Rand JS et al, Centre for Companion Animal Health, School of Veterinary Science, The University of Queensland, “Diet in the prevention of diabetes and obesity in companion animals”, Asia Pacific Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 2003;12 Suppl:S6
  • Ann Alimi

    Not a problem. All is good.

  • joseph

    sorry ann–forget what i said

  • Ann Alimi

    My diabetic dog has been alive and well and it’s been 2 years since diagnosed . I’m not worried. I have an excellent vet who has been with us for 20 years and has treated many diabetic animals. Testing at home is good if you are comfortable doing it, if your dog is easy to test, and if your vet recommends it. But not everyone is in same boat and I’m tired of people’s comments like “you’re going to kill your dog”. I have seen people test daily and jabbing the poor dogs every few hours and play doctor by changing Insulin Up and down and going crazy to figure out curves and that still has not helped their dog. My neighbours dog is 16 has had diabetes for many years, never done home tests and dog is still alive and kicking. Both are ok, there are many many individual factors to consider in deciding whether to home test or not. Get a good vet you can trust and follow his advise. and when as owners we do the outmost best for our pet and it still dies it’s not because we set out to “kill”it. We are here to give opinions not vet advise nor to accuse people of going to kill their pets.

  • Tafsnap

    Ann, I don’t check my dog’s levels either. She was diagnosed last October and has insulin shots twice a day. I take her to the vet every couple months for a curve. My vet says she is doing great. I feed her Royal Canin GlycoBalance canned food mixed with Blue Healthy Diet dry food. She also just had cataract surgery in her right eye. Her left eye has 75%vision and hasn’t changed since she was diagnosed. The ophthalmologist said she is doing remarkably well and not to change anything I’m doing. So I don’t agree with Joseph, you’re not going to kill your dog.

  • Georgia

    Hi, my Dobbs was just diagnosed with diabetes with complications. Pancreatitis and ketones were through the roof. Since Saturday I’ve been working on getting ketones down. Thankfully they’re in the negative now. I use a urine rest strip 3 or 4 times a day. Glucose is at the 1. Vet wants it down to 1/2. Should I be doing the blood test kit? I’m new to all of this. Today at vet his glucose was 447. We are going to do a curve (?) on thursday. What food should I be feeding him now? I’ve been giving my 4 dogs taste of the wild. But reading all these blogs I went to their web site and then to the complaint sight and there is thousands of complaints for this food.

  • Tracey

    My 11 year old lab has been diagnosed with diabetes. She gets insulin twice a day with her food. I was feeding her Wellness Core Reduced Fat dry food with 1/2 can of Kirkland Nature’s Domain Turkey & Pea stew. After doing some research, I decided to change the canned food to Wellness Core Weight Management grain-free. I’m not sure if I should try to only feed her the canned food or combine it with a different kibble. She is a little overweight, so we only feed her 1 cup kibble with 1/2 can twice a day. After doing some research, I was thinking of trying Orijen Fit & Trim, Orijen Grain Free Senior, Acana Free Run Poultry, Acana Light & Fit. I’m just not sure if the drastic change in protein will be too much for her. Any suggestions?

  • joseph

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e635a52dd9a47cf77c3d30518bbf0e6d7112f2aa04eef290f449ccfa9666262.jpg ann-doing wht your doingg will kill your dog guaranteed—your vet is crazy—-my teddybear has diabitties also–yellow lab -10 years old—i take the blood and also give him the insulin–novolin-n–thats the one you want–wallmart==24 dollars—-the blood meter is accutron—called alpha trak 2—–this one only–its the best and cheap for the starter kit—you take the blood from the elbows—-its simple-dog dont feel it and its done—you need to know his sugar level at least 1 time per day—im serious—-and the shot—its easy to—behind the neck—1-2-3–its over—–you must learn all this if you love your dog—-signed–joe t

  • Fran Munschauer

    I came here to find out if there are canned low carb/high pr- foods for potentially diabetic dogs that can be purchased at grocery stores. As for cats, the lists go on forever. Since I see no answer, I can’t help but notice the infrequent monitoring blood glucose of dogs on insulin (I used
    Lantus) and know from experience that many DVM’s do not impress the importance og frquent BG monitoring. I am not a cat person but took in 2 cats with my 8 dogs. Of course the cat was diagnosed with Diabetes Mellitus which fortunately is in remission since April 2017. I would like to think that my understanding as an RN treating humans helped me treat the cat because the DVM suggested once a day BG evaluation..REALLY!! Getting to know “cat people” really changed my thinking since they all would be up 24/7 (literally) making sure their diabetic kitties would maintain a safe BG..WHICH IS THE GOAL= to give the pancreas a rest and time to heal hopefully. Someone was reporting here that their dog was weak and walking sideways, etc..So I would assume that BG monitoring was more than 3 times/day..After such an episode, I would normally perform very hour BG, but stayed up some nights with the FDMB members online from around the world making me perform every 30 minute BG if it was plunging too low. After 4 months of intensive care and help by FDMB, Elliott went into remission. I wish there was a forum for dogs like there is for cats=FDMB. My dog just registered 296/301 with Human meter and Alphatrak and so I am worried since dogs often have Type I and rarely Type 2 like cats. I would still like to know if there is “canned” low carb dog food in stores and NOT diet dog foods that can throw 8 dogs into a diarrhea party that ended up a major catastrophe for the dogs and my house. In researching dog diabetic issues, I have found little compared to that available for cats. If interested in how some care for diabetic pets, you may view my spreadsheet..I wish your dogs the best health and happiness. .https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l08kgX9WSiJEenVlq2rAeC4FxEqoeAUlnBPqganucis/edit#gid=361360320

  • Caroline

    Hi Sharon. How long has she been diabetic? Do you check her blood sugars at home? I would take her to the vet and have her checked. I’m so sorry, I hope she’s okay.

  • Sharon King

    Hi I have a Chihuahua and she is dibabeti and is on insulin 1unit twice a day and eating WD prescription dog food .she has good days but today she looks dehighdrae sorry can’t spell that word and drinking water and peeing. I am so worry.she was walking side ways and looking weak. I have done everything I can do.please help , I don’t want to lose my baby girl

  • Susan

    Hi Tangled, which vet diet formula are you feeding?? If its the Hills W/d then it’s lower in fat & very higher in insoluble fiber, also high in carbs, your better off feeding your healthy dogs a normal diet for adult dogs…are your dogs small, large, senior ?

  • Susan

    Hi it will be higher in insoluble fiber & lower in fat which R/C formula is it?? I will read the fat % protein % & fiber but if you have healthy dogs your better off feeding them a normal diet…

  • tangled

    Did anyone answer your question? I have the same question with a different diabetic dogfood.

  • celeste cameron

    Diabetes in dogs does not resolve or reverse. Once they are diabetic they stay that way and can only be treated with insulin. A good diet can help regulate BS but cannot fix the diabetes. Just FYI. If you suspect diabetes you should go to the vet.

  • Johnie Stancil

    Ann
    My lab was just diagnosed with diabetes about two months ago also. I was having to take him to his vet every 7 (seven) days, as you know it was was getting costly. So I went to Walmart and bought a human blood meter and that’s what I check my dogs glucose levels with. So I check him before he eats and after I give him his insulin about 6 hours after this is at his insulin peak. But you can prick and draw blood from the pads on the elbow (this is the easiest for me and my pet), ear, or his lip. You’ll have to find what’s easiest for you. I hope this helps!

  • Sheila McIntosh

    My dog started getting diabetes (self-diagnosed). He was drinking a lot/peeing in the house, which he never does. I switched to Honest Kitchen dehydrated fish food & use Blood Gold (herbal supplement) and he is almost back to normal within just a couple of weeks.

  • victoria

    i have Royal Canin diabetic dog food. Can I feed it to my dogs who aren’t diabetic?

  • Ann

    Orijen has a very high fat content though, this may not be good for a small dog with diabetes, might lead to pancreatitis or liver problems. I’m not a vet so I don’t know but check it out.

  • Caroline

    Sorry, I didn’t phrase that right. He’s taking the Denosyl to help (hopefully) his elevated liver enzymes which were caused by the pancreatitis.

  • Veronika

    Curcumin is great so good idea and I looked up that Resvantage and looks good too.

  • Veronika

    There’s foods with 60% protein so I doubt that 34% could be considered high :p and like I said if your dog is otherwise healthy liver wise then it’s not a problem.
    Even the start of kidney disease doesn’t require an immediate drop in protein, in fact you could cause a whole series of problems by doing that.

    It’s also hard for me to mention brands as I’m not from the USA so I tend to forget what foods you guys have that are raw.

  • Veronika

    That myth has been nipped in the bud on several websites just got to go find it, from a reputable website, as there’s a lot of lying ones out there.

  • Ann

    The Denosyl helped my dogs elevated liver ketones. As far as I know my dog doesn’t have pancreatitis. But Hopefully it’s good for both problems.

  • Caroline

    Roscoe is on Denosyl too after his pancreatitis. I’m having his liver enzymes rechecked on friday, they were very high also. I’m glad to hear it’s working for you, that gives me hope.

  • Caroline

    I agree with Ann. Low carb and low fat, especially since diabetic dogs are already prone to pancreatitis ( found out the hard way).

  • Caroline

    I think it was the high fat.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    Grape Seed Extract and administering Can-C and Optixcare EYE HEALTH (this one only) have maintained our Beagle’s cataracts. Eye Specialist sees her next month for annual check…..

  • Ann

    Canned pumpkin usually contains added sugar, I don’t think it’s good for diabetic dog. I heard that a little freshly cooked pumpkin with its skin is ideal.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    sounds good to me!!

  • Ann

    My understanding is medium fiber, medium protein, low carbs, low fat. Anyone correct me if I’m wrong.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    yes…it can; did with us!!Changing REALLY messed our Polly up! Now, if she is a bit HIGH, more exercise is indicated; thank God, the LOWS have stopped

  • Ann

    Thanks for the info. Now did he get pancreatitis because of high fat content or high protein? With raw food I can find low fat meat but not low protein.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    Pedigree is crap basically!! Kibble NOT best for Diabetic dogs in particular!! See Dr. Karen Becker, DVM and others for advice. Only Natural Pet, Honest Kitchen, Sojos and others are great foods!! Diabetic animals NEED a set schedule and twice per day feeding along with their Insulin.

  • Ann

    That’s a good question, raw food has a large amount of protein. However, if that is bad how do wild dogs survive, they don’t eat kibble.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    do not like the grain-based Vet food….Honest Kitchen, Stella and Chewys, Sojos and others make much better foods. Yes, a bit expensive, but H.K. is even Human-Grade!! Watch the Protein (Pancreas)

  • Ann

    It’s called Denosyl. It’s a pill given once a day. With diabetes any regular medication for liver effects the insulin given so this pill is the only think she could take for her liver. Her liver ketones were about 3,000 and the normal is under 200. Now it has dropped to 750 which is a huge improvement.

  • dennisandconniegomez

    we have managed our Polly for almost three years, with Humulin-N (Costco or Smith’s); testing inside her upper lips (she is wonderful about it). If I “loose” you…PM me on my Facebook page if you like. We almost lost our baby to a massive overdose of Insulin given her 3 yrs ago by a kennel! She has her highs and lows and was once on Phenabarbitol for seizures; thank God, we manage her!!

  • dennisandconniegomez

    true…Dr. Becker, DVM (with Dr. Mercola) is wonderful as is Canine Diabetis grroup

  • dennisandconniegomez

    eye specialist has Polly Beagle eating Grape Seed Extract (100 mg daily) an we administer Can-C and Optixcare EYE HEALTH daily. So far, her Cataracts are “holding their own”. See him next month for a check! W/D is grains and not even non-GMO…we do not feed! Vets get kick-backs from Hill’s!!!!

  • dennisandconniegomez

    adding Curcumin now also (Dr. Mercolas’); have not fed kibble in years. Our vet has Poll on Resvantage Canine as well

  • dennisandconniegomez

    we add canned Pumpkin daily and Polly chews Kongs w/ frozen Pumpkin inside

  • dennisandconniegomez

    brand?? Everything Honest Kitchen makes has Potato except the new BRAVE 6 ingredient food. It has 34% Protein…too high???

  • dennisandconniegomez

    higher fat/low carbs is best correct??

  • dennisandconniegomez

    doesn’t too much/high Protein have the potential of harming Polly’s Liver??

  • dennisandconniegomez

    we feed Honest Kitchen’s Embark and Brave but are “looking” as I read game meats are best. Did allergy test on Polly…she is sensitive to ALL potatoes! But, each dog is different!

  • dennisandconniegomez

    Ann…may I ask what Liver Supplement?? We have a Diabetic Beagle

  • Veronika

    I dunno I never read anything like that and I read a lot, everyday a lot lol, I don’t doubt that some fiber is needed but not in whopping amounts like some kibbles.

    If your dog tolerates pumpkin and trust me some don’t then that would seem like a very good option, extra vits-mins and of course carotene of the healthy kind.

  • Ann

    My dog has just been diagnosed with diabetes, and the complex type that shows an incredibly high amount of ketones in her liver. Other than the peeing and drinking too much though she’s a happy, energetic little dog that doesn’t exhibit any sign of sickness surprisingly. She’s on a liver supplement pill and insulin twice dayly and has definitely improved her condition although were not quite there yet. I do not monitor her glucose levels. My vet said it would be difficult to draw blood from her myself, she’s a little 9 lb Papillon. So he does it once a month or so for now till she is stable. I feel uncomfortable not knowing how her sugar level is doing each day. Does anyone else NOT do the home monitoring?

  • Ann

    The problem with raw is not just the fat. You can find raw meat low in fat as mentioned above. The problem is that it has no fiber and I believe that is important with diabetes. I don’t know if I should add pumpkin powder in her food daily or another fiber supplement or even how much to add.

  • Veronika

    Yeah raw is probably the best for diabetes and cancer and other problems as well the problem is simply choosing the right one, not all is made equal as one would know and some are truly horrific in their fat contents.

    Despite pancreatitis Rusty still eats a wide variety of foods, including Venison freeze dried, Ziwipeak, FrontierPets beef they have chicken now so I’ll be changing over to that it has 11% less fat and kibbles within 14% fat no higher no lower, lower = more fibre and he had a really bad reaction to that one time never again.

    If you ever do try raw again, Venison and Kangaroo are lean meats, stay away from beef and lamb they can be extra fatty specially if they use meats full of trim.
    Rabbit I think was also lean.

  • Veronika

    Oh I have trust me, getting people to actually listen to you is a whole other thing, I always try to get people to feed low carbs to diabetic dogs as that is what works best for the illness.

    Raw if they can and at the very least low carb low Gi foods if they can’t.

  • Caroline

    Hi Ann, I tried a commercial raw diet after my dog was diagnosed with diabetes. He loved it and his blood sugars were great. However after eating it for 5 months he developed pancreatitis. The vet said diabetic dogs are prone to pancreatitis because their pancreas is already compromised. No more raw diet for him. It sounds like the food you’re feeding is really low in fat though. Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience with you.

  • Ann

    No one has mentioned Raw food diets for diabetic dogs. I have mine on a commercial raw food diet that is 95% meat and 5% vege with zero carbs. Fat is about 4% and fiber is minimal but I give her a fiber rich treat at each meal. She was just diagnosed as diabetic so I don’t know yet how this diet will work on her. My vet is not happy with my choice of food of course since no vet agrees with raw. But my dog loves it and eats it eagerly. She hates the vet food and won’t touch it.

  • Anna M

    Actually I was wrong about the veggies, that was what the girl at the pet food store and my vet told me after thorough research on the internet, the best food for diabetic dogs is definitely Acana Light & Fit, it has a low glycemic index, low fat level, and extremely high protein. Dogs with diabetes should have at least 35 %. My Pom who also has Pancreatitis and Hypo-Thyroidism tolerates the fat content well. For canned foods, Wellness Core weight management, low carbs, high protein, low glycemic index. Also Complete Health Senior and Whitefish formula work well also. Northern biscuits and Charlee Bears are his treats, and some dehydrated chicken treats, not made in China.

  • Anna M

    I am using Acana Light and Fit, it is made by Orijen so the quality is just as good, my dog has Pancreatitis and Diabetes, so he needs low fat, this is the perfect food. I also use Reduced Fat or Senior Formulas canned foots for variety, many have fat contents of only 3.5% such as Wellness core, watch for foods with certain veggies, sweet potatoes, carrots, corn, peas they all spike the sugar levels.

  • Caroline

    You’re very welcome. That’s crazy that the glycemic index for the Rx diet is 49%! Good luck with your baby.

  • QueenieTricia

    I was able to speak with Orijen today. The glycemic index for the grain free food is 26%. The glycemic index for the Prescription Diet is 49%. We both felt certain that this increase accounted for his current sluggishness. I will need to have another conversation with the Vet with this info. Thanks for your help.

  • Veronika

    No it’s not, that’s not balanced in the least, if you want you can create a food for him using the chicken fillet, add chickpeas, some dog friendly veggies and offal from time to time if you can, it’s not perfect but it’s better then just 1 steak, the dog will loose all his weight, his skin will look awful and who knows what else could happen but nothing good.
    Adding sardines in water or olive oil is also good as fish has many amazing benefits, but use sparingly about 2-3 times a week.

  • Veronika

    What seems to work with diabetes is like Caroline said low carb low Gi, your only going to make it worse feeding high carb high Gi and remember tapioca is very high Gi as are stuff like potato, white rice and wheat and especially corn, so try to stick to foods with chickpeas and ones that state they are low Gi and always check the carbs if you can, if you can’t message the company.

    Grain free doesn’t mean low Gi low carb.

  • Caroline

    Hi. When my dog was diagnosed with diabetes, my vet told me to put him on a grain free diet. He’s been doing really well on the Horizon brand ( plus his insulin of course). It looks like Orijen is low carb (low glycemic index), so I would think your dog could stay on the Orijen with the addition of insulin. Might be worth discussing with your vet. Hope this helps.

  • QueenieTricia

    I hope that someone can give me some feedback. I have an 11 year old Pom that has always been on Orijen grain free diet. He has just been diagnosed diabetic. I think this has been gradual for a long time looking back but I didn’t know the signs. When I took him in for a checkup his glucose was 500. He was put on 2 units of insulin and a diet change to Prescription Diet. He loved the stew. Thought he was having Sunday dinner. I took him in 2 weeks and his level was up to 750. He was checked every hour. They have now raised his insulin to 5 units. Felix is a totally different dog. He is lying around. Peeing under himself. He has no spirit. My question is: when a dog has been grain free for 11 years can you just suddenly give them all these grains they’ve never had? I think his system is about to crash from grain overload. Hope someone can help. I have a call into Orijen but not sure what they will say.

  • daremo2009

    I have a 13 yr old mini and she developed diabetes and cataracts within 6 months of each other. it was approx 4k for the surgery and worth every single cent. She is back to her old self other than struggling to get her to eat the WD. Some days she will others she will not and i have to entice her with boiled chicken, crushed up 100% chicken treats and even a few pieces of the other dogs regular kibble.

  • Sonia Hawkins

    My dad has just found out his dog is diabetic the vet as advised him av a certain brand food for diabetic but I’m worried he doesn’t like it and losing way too much weight thr not eating, I read it’s best to be meat based so was wondering is a plain chicken fillet ok for him as him main food

  • Marie Leathem

    That’s why my vet has me give the shot after he eats. You can’t know how much to give if he doesn’t eat his full portion.

  • Betty DeHaven

    The vet has him on WD Hills brand which he gets 1/2+2Tbs 2x a day nothing else which is kinda hard for him to get use to as well so is there anything else comparable to Hills prescription dog food??

  • Ilona Workman

    Bought some tuna in water and chicken in water and mix it with the kibbles. makes it taste a little better. I’ll get off the glycobalance kibbles too. it doesn’t sound to good.

  • KatnDan

    thank you! He is in good shape for his age, we were trying to weigh the wisdom of spending that much on a dog his age. We have never had a dog live this long. We are so attached however; we have another that is 10. We will do the research here; I didn’t realize that there was no real downtime; which is great. I’ll let you know what we do; can’t even think about living without these two!

  • Ben

    The cost was $3500.00 and worth every penny. The results are instant. She was like a puppy again. It was amazing. Another problem you will face if you don’t do the surgery is the dog will have to have to get her eyes removed. At some point the retina will fuse to the lens and it is very painful for the dog. The cost would be the same. My dog lost one of her eye before we figured out what we needed to do. The cost to remove is the same as to fix. We also went to a eye specialist that wasn’t are vet. Are vet didn’t even tell us about the blindness rate. I would do it even if the dog only has a few years left.

  • KatnDan

    Ben, we have a 15 year old schnauzer who has diabetes too. He has impossible cataracts. May I ask how much that surgery cost and how long it took and results on the dog vis a vis his age? thanks.

  • Ben

    Hello. 90% of all dogs that get diabetes will go blind unless you get the eyes fixed now…like today. My 15 year old Schnauzer had her eye done. She lost one because I did not know about blindness. The blood sugars ruin the lens. It happened very fast.

    Annamaet Lean Dry Dog Food is fantastic and has all the good stuff. It is easy to find online.

    I also boil chicken and bake sweet potatoes and feed her with that the 2 times before I need to give her shots.

    I use R/O water in a glass bowl and change it daily. She drinks more that way. I used to have it in plastic and it stinks and she refused it.

  • aimee

    Hi Betty,

    Dogs, unlike people and cats, always have type 1 diabetes and this can not be controlled with food change alone. If your dog is truly diabetic, and only your vet can answer that, then your dog needs insulin to survive.

    If he gets too much insulin and his glucose levels fall too low a seizure could result. This is why the dose and type have to be carefully managed.

    Insulin won’t cause stones.

    One of my previous dogs went through severe pancreatitis and lost a large portion of her pancreas. She wasn’t a true diabetic but her glucose levels always ran a bit on the high side 120-130. Insulin was never recommended for her situation.

  • Betty DeHaven

    Thank you for the info,The vet wants to put him on insulin and I am not quite sure I want to do this because then is in danger of getting stones and having seizures so am adamant about this your help would be much appreciated

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Just add a tablespoon of plain homemade defatted chicken broth to it.
    Offer food twice a day, pick up after 10 minutes if they are not interested, store in the fridg and offer at the next meal time.
    If the dog isn’t a water drinker you should be adding water or presoaking his food anyway.
    Check with your vet, but, I think this will work.
    Let him skip a meal or two if he wants, unless your vet advises differently.

  • Betty DeHaven

    I am so confused about what to feed my 11 yr old mini Schnauzer who has been diagnoised with pancreitis and now is said to be a diabetic ,the vet has put him on WD Diet and he won’t eat it!! How can I get him to eat? The fat content is 5% which is pretty plain and yes it is Hills Dry what to do i’m so affaid of losing him please help,

  • aimee

    Hi Ryan,

    Are you using a supplements along with the chicken pumpkin and barley?

    If not I’d agree with Pitlove that the diet looks very unbalanced When I first look at a home made diet I look for sources of Calcium, Vit E, Vit D and zinc. I’m not seeing good /any sources of those vital nutrients.

    Have you ever used Balanceit dot com? It is a fun interactive software for making home cooked diets.

    Using ingredients of Chicken, Barley, squash and pumpkin it generated several different recipes and reported between 13-17 deficiencies for each one.

    If you are not using supplements you need to. Balanceit has a nice one and the programs tells you how much to use for each recipe you create.

    The site is run by a boarded veterinary nutritionist.

    P.S.I don’t have a diabetic dog, I have a “diabetic” cat. He has been in remission and off insulin for several years now. He eats Purina products.

  • Ryan

    Why do you say it’s unbalanced? Boiled chicken, barley, and/or pumpkin/squash!! & if he won’t eat that, I top it off with wellness core! & he’s regulated!! What do you feed your diabetic dog?

  • Pitlove

    Hi Ryan-

    The meal plan you are suggesting is very unbalanced. I hope you aren’t suggesting this be fed long term.

  • Ryan

    Food from the vet is the worst! They no nothing about nutrition!! Mine gave me Purina pro plan which is garbage! Hill’s, royal canan is ALL bad for diabetic dogs! Feed chicken, squash/pumpkin with barley! See how that goes but do not use what the vet is selling you! I learned the hard way!!

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    I think it would be best to call the vet that prescribed the insulin and prescription food and ask him.
    How about a splash of homemade plain (boiled chicken water, no onion) chicken broth.added to the food?

  • deborahkay

    Wondering if skinless, boneless, baked or boiled chicken could be mixed in with the dog food purchased at vets’ and which Buster Boy hates. He takes insulin twice daily.

  • Susan Nikolaus

    Diabetes is a medical condition that can be life threating. A diet high in protein is a must for the insulin to latch on to, with grains and fiber. Most vet’s sell a diabetic food, it cost a little more than most but it’s what your dog needs. It’s strange that a veterinarian would be ok with “Alpo” for any dog. Good luck!

  • Leah Erickson

    I agree, not just any old food will be good enough. That is a high carb food and converts to lots of sugars which throw off the blood glucose.

  • Leah Erickson

    I am very shocked to hear of a 4 month old puppy diagnosed with Diabetes. It would be very difficult to regulate blood glucose on a growing puppy, they need much different nutritional needs than an adult or senior pet needs, their activity level is higher and with each change, the insulin needs to change also.

  • Leah Erickson

    Unfortunately, we have been poisoned by the ads on TV that tell us we shouldn’t feed this ingredient or that ingredient. Royal Canin Veterinary Diets as well as Hill’s Veterinary Diets are specifically designed to work for health problems that occur in our pets. These are scientifically proven foods that help each disease/crisis. I am not saying that I would highly recommend their regular diets, they are fine but are not what I feed my pet either but the Prescription foods do an amazing job for the pets. There are reasons that each item is in that specific food. As a veterinary professional, we are now seeing the ramifications of feeding our pets like we want to eat or as they say ” like they ate in nature” (we don’t really know how long dogs and cats lived in the nature prior to domestication, nor do they eat the muscle first in the animals they capture and eat – they go for the organs – fyi by products – something we won’t eat ourselves- because that is where the minerals and vitamins they need are). Dogs and cats have certain nutritional needs in order to not cause other problems, such as more frequent bladder stones or kidney problems. Not every food is right for every single animal – I may be lactose intolerant and you can eat your full days supply of dairy, pets are the same way.

  • Barbara A. Cronin

    My vet is an excellent DVM but he is NOT a nutritionist and will NOT discuss nutritional option. Good luck

  • Caroline

    Like Amateria said, no prescription needed.☺ They also make Horizon Legacy which I think has even fewer carbs. It also has a little more protein (34% compared to 28% ) but I was afraid it might be a little too rich for my boy. I may try it at some point .

  • Amateria

    No it’s not a prescription food.

    Just one of the many helpful foods out there for certain conditions that are not prescription junk foods lol.

  • ginak

    Thank you for the advice, Caroline. Do I need a script from my vet to purchase this food?

  • Sue Reed

    If you are on FB, check out the group Diabetic Dog Owners, they will help you through this process! Try a little parmesan cheese on top.

  • Amateria

    Well it’s really no wonder I just checked the ingredient list and it’s absolutely appalling looks absolutely tasteless and what’s the extra high GI tapioca doing in a food that’s meant to be low Gi, it’s really no wonder at all to me Royal is known for such crap and literally all the other vet foods also just as bad.

  • Caroline

    Hi, Roscoe has been doing really well on Horizon Pulsar.It has a low glycemic index and he really likes it. I get it on Chewy. It comes in 3 flavors, chicken, turkey and fish. His blood sugars have been good on this (with his insulin, of course) ,and he always cleans his bowl.

  • ginak

    What do you do when your dog HATES the dog food? My vet recommended Royal Canine Glycobalance and it’s a struggle every day to get him to eat it. I’m afraid to give him his shot when I can’t be sure that he will eat. My vet just says “he’ll get used to it when I express concern.

  • Caroline

    One of the hardest parts was two meals twelve hours apart. Roscoe loves to eat! But after almost five months he’s getting used to the new schedule.

  • Caroline

    You can do it!

  • PEG

    Thank you Caroline for your reply. Fiona and I have an appointment with her vet on Monday. We’ll discuss her diet and plan then. I’m going to try feeding her the Ruby Stewbie sounds pretty healthy.

  • Caroline

    Hi PEG. I also lost my husband and my 9 year old Boston means the world to me. He was diagnosed with diabetes in Oct. 2016. He gets NPH insulin twice a day ($25 at Sam’s ). I check his blood sugar with an Alphatrack glucometer I got on Amazon. I use the outer edge of the ear, he doesn’t mind it. Wet food seems to keep his blood sugar lower than kibble. I know it’s scary, but you can find a lot of information online.

  • PEG

    I just found out yesterday that my soon to be 11 year old Dachshund has diabetes. I’m so afraid…she’s all I have left since my husband died and I can’t stand the thought of losing her too! Please let me know what to expect with all of this

  • Shanee P.

    I feel your pain. I have a 13 year old dachshund that was diagnosed with diabetes almost three years ago. The dog was constantly drinking and peeing. Lots of accidents in the house. It took at least six weeks to get his insulin regulated. The vet had me going three days a week at $18 for each check. My husband and I work long days. I work a 12 hour day also. I thought insulin shots twice a day would be impossible. We’ve done the best we can with it. He usually gets his shot (5 units )between 4:30 and 5am and his evening one (4 units)whenever one of us gets home. Sometimes it’s on time, usually it’s not. You can only do what you can do. The type of dog food makes ALL the difference in this. Before my boy ever started his insulin, we tried lowering with food only. The vet recommended Hill’s Science Diet WD. Just by switching to this food I was able to lower it from over 800 to 495! We did have to begin insulin because that was as low as it got. He was on the Hill’s WD for several months, but seemed a little constipated so I decided to try another vet recommended food. Royal Canin Glycobalance. He’s been on this for years now and still on the original insulin dose. I just in the last two weeks, tried a gradual switch to a better ingredient quality food that was grain free. This was a recommendation from a local pet store. I have two dogs. The other was on Blue Buffalo, but not caring for it so I thought is I did grain free with no potatoes the two could eat it. I’m less than a week in the gradual change and he’s peeing constantly and having accidents in the house again. I have him wearing diapers, but they still leak. Yesterday, I washed his bedding twice! Starting last night I put him 100% back on the Royal Canin Glycobalance. I didn’t think when I switched food, that I would have to re-regulate his insulin. It’s not worth it. I felt the need to write this lengthy message because, believe me…I know. It’s extremely frustrating. My husband keeps telling me to have him put down, but his tail wags and he’s fine when he’s regulated. It’s the peeing in the house. I think we’ve been on the verge of divorce because of it all. I highly recommend the Glycobalance or the WD for that matter. It will definitely help. It’s much cheaper on Chewy.com. Best of luck to you.

  • Lynn Evans

    they should be fed 2xs a day. The insulin short needs to ge given with in 60 min from eating. Just any ol’e dry food is not good enuf. Higher protein, low fat and low carbs is best. This has worked for my boy. Exercise & weight management as well. Excessive peeing is diabetes out of control I would switch Vets. Also diabetics’ body arent able to regulate the bosy temp, hot or cold. They need to be inside. Same for humans….. http://dm2.newlifeoutlook.com/body-temperature-and-type-2-diabetes/

  • postshots101

    Hey there I know it’s been a month or so my pup was also Diagnosed at 4 months with constant changes to insulin I found he stabilized around the 7-8month old range due to him growing ect.

  • Pitlove

    While we are knowledgable, helpful and the vet may have said the same thing, for liability reasons we as vet techs are not allowed to do what the tech in your situation did. It’s likely that she was an OTJ trained vet tech and not an RVT or LVT.

    As an RVT we are trained in school that diagnosing is out of our legal bounds.

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    Some vet techs are helpful and will advise, depending upon the situation, which is fine.
    I just wanted to make sure the poster spoke to the vet, based on experiences where I was not advised appropriately regarding my concerns and told that the vet was too busy to see my dog.
    He was examined by the vet tech instead, who told me he was fine (post-op bladder surgery with extreme swelling/edema at the surgical site)
    We ended up at the emergency vet a few hours later…….they took it seriously and said I was right to bring him in.

  • Pitlove

    A vet tech legally can not diagnosis or prescribe, so there is no risk of this happening. It would be the vet that would have to speak to her.

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    You’re welcome. Make sure you talk to the vet, and not the vet tech (regarding treatment specific to your dog).
    This is a serious condition, you need the expertise of a veterinarian.
    The good ones don’t mind returning calls.

  • DonnaC

    thank you

  • Maria E.

    My puppy was 4 months old (miniature pinscher) when he was diagnosed with Diabetes. The Vet recommended Royal Canin Diabetic and insulin 2 a day. He is quite healthy now. However, after a bit more than a month on Insulin, changing the dose almost every week, the vet could not stabilize his blood glucose… Does it take so long to find the right dose?

  • disqus_SBl7sCuYS7

    I would put a call into the vet and leave a message for him to call you back when he has a minute. Explain the situation to him in a concise manner. Have your questions regarding diet, exercise, water, insulin, food, shelter etc. written down and ready to discuss.
    Check Nutrisca dry food at chewy dot com, ask the vet if this would be an option? How about prescription food? Do you have a treatment plan from the vet’s office with the insulin orders and feeding schedule written up, request one if you don’t.

  • DonnaC

    Hi, so i am in a difficult situation. I know most of you will think bad of me and my parents but this is the situation. my parents have two labs they keep them outside. (They have proper shelter and are in a large fenced yard ) my parents are older and are “old school” when it comes to the dogs. we live in Michigan so they are doing the “winter bird” thing so I am taking care of the dogs. I had to take the male to the vet, he was loosing weight and shedding hair really bad. He is about 6 yrs old and the vet diagnosed him with diabetes.Jan 24 2017 the dog is down to 82lbs (so he was over weight) the vet put him on 18 units of insulin twice a day. i asked about changing his food the vet said no. my parents had them on alpo dry food twice a day. well we gone to work for long hours alot and feed our animals once a day (i usually over feed so they have food when they want it) so we started feeding once a day – my parents left in Nov 2016 i notice the weight loss end of Dec 2016 so we switched the dogs to pedigree dry food. i though maybe they didnt want the alpo anymore. so long story short i am now so over whelmed with the situation. I read you all monitor this and monitor that .I work 12 hour days and it is going to take two of us to feed him and give him his insulin,and separating him from the other dog, which we are trying to work on a schedule. i was going to bring him in the house to keep a better eye on him but with his excessive drinking and peeing. (and not being house trained ) i cant keep him in for long period of time. and I feel he should be on a diabetic dog food or whats your opinion on this?. I want to have him on a steady schedule so when my parents come back in April they can just take over the schedule with out the overwhelming feelings ( my dads sugar ended up over 200 the other day worrying about his dog – i dont need to add there health issue on top of this!)
    so any advice would be very much appreciated. thank you
    PS i wont be able to check this until the weekend thanks

  • Michelle Melgren

    Hi @angelaweberpalazzini:disqus your dog sounds JUST like my dog (same size and everything) I am sick of the W/D dry dog food and feel it isn’t helping her. She is on 1/2 cup W/D dry 2x a day with 4units of insulin and her levels are still SUPER high. I really want to give this Ruby recipe a shot…. What would you recommend for amount of food and how to switch over?? Thanks!!

  • Amateria

    Wow I didn’t know that, that was the reason for it, 10-20 years is a long time for change to happen and plenty will indeed die in that time and for no reason as it all could have been avoided.
    I hope it doesn’t take that long, but I feel that it just might.

  • theBCnut

    Basically, the law reads that doctors have to advise and follow the ADA’s guidelines, so they are not allowed to go by the latest research even if they know that it’s more current and better treatment. It will probably take another 10-20 years for the current thinking to become accepted and the guidelines to be changed. I just have to wonder how many will die from complications due to diabetes before then.

  • Amateria

    Everything can be helped with diet I know that, but I’ve also done a lot of research on it, sadly not everyone has and continues to poison their pets with an unecessary amount of carbohydrates especially when the dog or cat has diabetes or cancer, if you want to feed the cancer be my guest but know this your dog would be much healthier and on a lower dose of insulin if you stopped giving so many carbs.

    I really wish more people knew this and that more vets knew about it, because so far it seems they have no clue or they wouldn’t prescribe carb heavy food in the first place if they did.

  • Tammie Boyer Wrenn
  • Tammie Boyer Wrenn

    Try trudog dog food. Mail order. Also check out planet paws on Facebook and watch their video about sugar in dog food. It’s eye opening. I was stunned how bad the food I was giving my baby was. I thought i was doing right by my babies. I urge anyone who has a diabetic dog to watch and listen.

  • Tammie Boyer Wrenn

    I recently watched a video about how much sugar is in dog food. Even the kinds perscribed by vets. As mush as 60% of a bag can convert to suger. You can find this info on the bag. Where it lists crude protein 20% moisture % fat% etc. Add all those numbers and add 6% for the amount of ash that is usually not listed on the bag. Take your total and subtract it from 100. That is the %amount of sugar in that bag. Remember that rice, potatoes, peas etc all covert to sugar in the body.
    Check out a brand called trudog. Their food is freeze dried. All meat. They even have a boost and a system to detox all the crap commercial dog foods put in their food out of your babies body.

  • Amateria

    I seem to be hearing a lot of blindness stories lately and it’s likely due to not dropping the carb content of the food but continuing to feed foods with high percentages of it.

    I found a list of foods that I linked down below that states the amount of carbohydrates in several different foods and the ones below 30% or at least below 40% are the best to go with, I guess if you could get a raw food over there that would be best, that way you could be rid of all the starches.

    http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dogheiro.com%2Farticles%2Fbest-dry-dog-food-list-15-dog-foods-us-qualify-high-protein-low-carb%2F%3A__c9IWJGsn8ol0y-fJYfphIF21o&cuid=1114237

    I realised later after someone told me that most of the foods on the list are not considered low carb unless their below 30% which makes sense and so I’m not to sure why the website has ones above 40%.

    Dog diabetes definitely works differently from cats, you can’t cure a dog of diabetes with raw food but you can still make the disease almost non existent, based on a forum I read, where people’s dogs looked and played like any normal dog but had diabetes, you can reduce the insulin by a lot but you can’t totally be rid of it like with cats.

  • Daniela

    Hi everyone! My 11yo poodle was diagnosed with diabetes 1 year ago. Since march 2016, i’ve been using w/d hills formula and she was very good even when she became blind a few months later. Actually, she is peeing to much as the beggining and also lost interest in w/d food. My mom feeds her (my dog lives in Venezuela with my parents) with pieces of chicken, broccoli, potato or chicken soup and w/d mixed but she only eats the regular food and not her dry food, also is loosing weight again. Could you recommend another type of food? Iams, blue, royal canine or a type of raw diet? Im very worried because i have to send the food to my country. Thank you for taking your time and answer every question or concern that we have.

  • Faye Lee

    Also, I have gotten away from the kibbles. They had been on Hills prescription WD for 4 years (and Hills Science diet before that since birth) as the vet gave it ahead of time saying poodles are predisposed to getting diabetes. Now I have 1 diagnosed and the other 2 with serious skin and allergy problems. I give them carb free and freeze-dried protein snacks in between meals and they are not itching as much.

  • Faye Lee

    Thank you. I will try this recipe. I gave them the ‘grandma Lucys’ freeze-dried and they seemed to like it for a few weeks then lost interest now They’ve been on the dehydrated ‘Honest Kitchen’ Marvel & Love which they seemed to love (I add meat) at first but pick at it and pull the meat out to eat most days. I don’t think they like veggies. I did switch to a holistic vet too. Do you check the glucose yourself?

  • Angela Weber Palazzini

    My vet has been great. He is fine with me testing at home and calling him with the results. He has me test her before her first insulin shot then six hours later and finally before the second shot. You are not only checking her levels you are also checking to see how low they drop six hours after the first shot. My girls level started out at 140 then six hours later dropped to 49 so I gave her a small treat to raise her levels a little. You can give the frozen green beans, romaine lettuce leaves or dehydrated lamb treats for a snack. Their glucose should be around 100. I’m happy with 140 at this point. I could tell she was feeling good today she was playing with the other dogs. You can purchase Novolin insulin at Wal-Mart for 25.00. A box of syringes cost me 12.50 at Walmart. If your vet doesn’t want to work with you I would look for another vet. I refuse to take my animals to vets that only care about how much money they can make off of sick pets.

  • Angela Weber Palazzini

    Read my posts above about Ruby stewbie homemade food. Half a batch is enough to feed my dog for 8 weeks and she’s doing great on it.

  • Angela Weber Palazzini

    Look up Ruby stewbie homemade dog food it has worked great for my 10 year old dog. I also give my dog dehydrated lamb treats for extra protein. As for the supplements a vet recommended we add one Centrum multi vitamin per two cups of food and coconut oil. At your dogs weight they would consume 1.67 cups of stew a day.

  • Angela Weber Palazzini

    Do an online search for a recipe called Ruby stewbie. It’s a homemade dog food for diabetic dogs. My dog has been eating it for three weeks now and we are finally getting close to regulating her glucose levels. I was having trouble figuring out how much to feed her. She weighs around 7lbs. I feed her 1/3 cup of stew with 20 pieces of Hills Science diet w/d dry food with 1/8 teaspoon coconut oil an 1/8th of a Centrum multi vitamin with a little water mixed in twice a day. Six hours after her first shot I give her two pieces of dehydrated lamb treats and two pieces of dry dog food as a snack. She gets the stew mixture twice a day. Her glucose went from the 400+ range. Today was 140.

  • Twenty-Fifth Baam

    He’ll be fine, just make sure you don’t let him get to it again, say by putting it into a sealable container. My girl has been diabetic for around three years now, we give her carrots at 10 -we feed her 4:30am and pm every day- and if you give them a small treat when you’re eating they’re fine. You can learn how much you can or cannot give them as you get more experienced with him being diabetic. Because we give mine her normal dosage as well as a little bit of normal can food so she’ll actually eat her diabetic food.

  • Alyssa Ainzua

    My dog was diagnosed with diabetes a few weeks ago and the vet prescribed us to feed him a certain amount twice a day (9am and 9pm). The amount they prescribed is very little and he always seems to be starving. I got home today and found he had knocked over his dog food bag and got into it. I’m not sure how much he ate, will he be okay?

  • Shawna

    I think carbs are beneficial but they are not required. The body can use amino acids to make glucose.

    One source – Waltham pocketbook of essential nutrition for cats and dogs page 28 https://www.waltham.com/dyn/_assets/_pdfs/waltham-booklets/Essentialcatanddognutritionbookletelectronicversion.pdf

  • bebes55

    I have never known of a canine that was on insulin that got completely off and if you have proof of that I’d like to submit it to Guiness..lol…however, Felines, well that’s another story. I won’t get into why as I don’t want to confuse anyone that has a dog. Once a dog is on insulin he is on it for life. The carbs and insulin work off of each other. If not, there would be no use for one or the other and no diabetes. I don’t know who would say to cut out carbs entirely from a dog’s diet. Where do you think energy comes from??? I’d like to see proof of this.

  • DollyBabysMom

    Thank you Bo but dolly went from bad to worse even affter insulin she just didn’t make it Dolly passed on November12th

  • Amateria

    Yeah but I eat about that much per meal, shouldn’t they be eating less? I usually do around 150g per day anymore and I end up in the bathroom sink puking my guts out, fun times.

    I generally don’t agree with high fat diets for anyone unless it’s completely necessary and I’m not a fan of protein above 36% for some reason, but if you or your dog/cat does well on it than by all means who am I to say how you should live your life and how your dog/cat should live theirs.

    Why I wouldn’t feed a diet above 40% is actually lost on me, I really have no idea why, every time I think about it I just don’t like the idea, but yeah no idea why… I am so weird.

  • aimee

    I’d agree with you that feeding a very low carb diet is recommended for feline diabetes and may allow a cat to get off insulin, but I disagree that this strategy should be recommended for a dog. While cats nearly always have type 2 diabetes dogs have type 1. As the cause of diabetes in dogs is often pancreatitis, a high fat high protein diet would be inappropriate for them as it may trigger further bouts of pancreatitis.

    The ADA recommends 45-60 grams carb/meal not per day

    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/understanding-carbohydrates/carbohydrate-counting.html

  • Amateria

    Based on like every website I’ve ever visited it’s better to cut the carbs out completely, that way you can manage the problem more efficiently and some cats and dogs got off insulin completely when people did it that way.

    45g of carbs is the max per day for adult humans, considering 300g is the max for healthy ones, you’d think there was a reason for that.

  • bebes55

    Hi Steph…sounds like your furbaby needs insulin twice a day and needs to be on a diabetic diet eating twice a day as well. The recipe below is too high in fat if he is a diabetic. Carbs are ok, and you also need to figure the dry matter basis or dmb in the food. You will have to figure out how much is in the food yourself as most labels do not print it. To do that you can probably find it on this web site or any dog food site.When the numbers go high (blood glucose) at 300 blindness begins, then organ damage comes along…so see your vet and get that under control! Good Luck.

  • bebes55

    Hi Dolly’s mom! There is a great Canine diabetes group, CanineDiabetesSupport and Information that you can join that can help you out….we are over 6,000 members strong and growing in leaps and bounds. Anyone there can help you out with questions about anything pertaining to diabetes and your shug pup! Good Luck! WOOFWOOF….Rebecca Duff

  • Amateria

    Because it’s not a low carb list, I put that up there so people could see how much carbs their food has and which one would be better to go with.

    It’s a protein/fat website.

  • bojangles

    Hi Amateria,

    To qualify as a low carb dog food on the website you linked to, foods “must be over 30% protein/under 43% carbs on a dry matter basis.”

    This is what you consider a low carb food?

    “I’ve saved it to my notes since I always have a hard time finding low carb foods for people”

  • Amateria

    Found this website several times before actually, but that’s not the point haha

    If anyone wants a good website showing carbohydrate % in foods this one seems to have quiet a few foods.
    http://www.dogheiro.com/articles/best-dry-dog-food-list-15-dog-foods-us-qualify-high-protein-low-carb/

    I’ve saved it to my notes since I always have a hard time finding low carb foods for people, hopefully this will help.

  • bojangles

    Hi DollyBabysMom,

    Let us know what happens with your vet tomorrow. I’ll be hoping for the best πŸ™‚

  • DollyBabysMom

    thanks Bo taking her back in the am affter reading comments on here and looking things up he didn’t even give me insulin just the new food and sent me on my way saying return in two weeks But affter reading all of this. plus her vomiting & lethargy, i have decided to take her back in Am and have her tested again and Ask him for Insulin he is the closest vet to where i live and The next one Is 30 mi away and charges three times as much Thanks and if he wont do insulin tomorrow i will take her to the more expensive vet further away.

  • bojangles

    Hi Dolly, welcome to DFA!

    I’m very sorry to hear about your troubles with Dolly. From what you say about Dolly’s weight loss and BG reading of 400, it is painfully obvious that her diabetes is not being controlled.

    Right now the best thing you can do for Dolly is get her blood sugars down. You need to figure out an insulin and diet regimen that enables her BG to stay below 200 without any low blood sugars which can be very dangerous.

    Please have a conversation about controlling Dolly’s blood sugars with your vet and if your vet doesn’t help you get her blood sugars below 200, please, please, please, find a vet who will help you figure it out.

  • DollyBabysMom

    Hi My Dolly who is a min pin shi-tzu mix was just diagnosed with diabettis she has recently over TWO week period gone from 16 to 12.5 lbs and has been drinking and peeing constantly At the time of her Diagnosis Yesterday her BG levals were up over 400 the vet gave us hills prescription dry food sent me home said come back in two weeks now affter reading on here i think he should have done more i’m very Worried about her shes lathargic and vomits liquid with what looks like coffee grounds in it at least once a day Now unlike last night tonight she did beg for scraps (Which she didnt get) but I’m still verry worried the vet said she also has cateracts but nothing can be done about them i live in a small rural town in the midwest and I am Disabled and on aa very limited income What can i do for my Dolly? should I take her back early?

  • bojangles

    Hi amanda,

    Right now I think you should go slow and just take it all in and try to digest everything as best as you can (pun intended).

    Once you’ve learned a little more and developed some kind of routine then I would be glad to help you tweak his diet, exercise, insulin, bg testing, and so on.

    Diabetes is a disease where it is especially important IMHO for the patient or the caretaker to be their own advocate.

    There are several different approaches to managing diabetes, but the one indisputable truth that science has arrived at, is that the great majority, if not all, of the complications related to diabetes are due to higher than normal blood sugars. This knowledge has been acquired through the study of human diabetes.

    Unfortunately as in so many areas canine science is decades behind it’s human counterpart. So for now, learn as much as you can and keep us updated πŸ™‚

  • Faye Lee

    Thank you. I am going to try the chickpea from Grandma Lucy’s since it is low glycemic.

  • Amateria

    As long as you stay away from carbohydrate rich foods your dogs should get better, some of the carb less success stories I’ve read were quiet magical to be honest and I think it’s better to try it and see how it works out, rather than not try it at all.

    Dehydrated foods are awesome to be honest, I love hydrating them and they are usually low carb.

  • Faye Lee

    I have 3 toy poodles 10, 11 &12 lbs. (10-12 yrs old) The 12 pounder had 3 incidents of peeing uncontrollably in a week and was diagnosed diabetic around March. The vet told me to keep him on the Science diet that they’d been on for years but Petsmart recommended Hill’s prescription WD and the vet said that was ok too and I switched all 3 of them. My diabetic dog developed cataracts and was blind 6 weeks later as I was back and forth to the vet doing glucose screenings to get the correct dosage. Now I am also taking him to a vet opthomologist. All the dogs snort, and wheeze a lot and cough like there’s something in their throats. It seems to be getting worst every week. The smallest one has had skin/allergy problems for almost 2 years now and has continuously been on medicated shampoo, anti-biotics and steroids and the vet keeps trying to increase the steroids or give him something stronger like apoquel which I won’t do but if I take him off completely he scratches like crazy. He and the middle dog have been vomiting the Hills prescript up occasionally in the last few weeks. I first suspected the faucet water and switched to distilled then spring water because of the lack of minerals in distilled but now I’m suspecting the food. Although I have read good reviews and a few bad I am concerned about the first 5 ingredients in this diabetic prescription food. I want to try something else, a non GMO before I try to make it myself. Does anyone know anything about the dehydrated foods (honest kitchen) or freeze dried (grandma Lucy or any other) and if they are good for diabetic dogs?

  • thatamandagurrl

    Okay the facts. He has been diagnosed for exactly one week. He wasn’t wanting his dog food and was throwing up water when he would drink it. His glucose was in the 400s they ran blood work and did a urine test. He was dehydrated and so they gave him fluids as well. After a day and a half of observation, they had his BG at 184 and said he was good to go home. At first he was on W/D but he tired of it in a couple of days so we got him some Nutrish chicken and veggie hard kibble. He likes it pretty well if I mix some egg, cauliflower, pumpkin, etc. in it. At the moment the vet had him on 4 units of vetsulin twice a day because he was on 3 but when we went back his level was too high and they bumped him to 4. We go back in on Thursday to make sure his BG is okay in that dose. The vet wants to do the testing and get him leveled so we come in every so often for a recheck. She said so I don’t have to worry with it/ruin the relationship I have with him. He’s doing so well and now has more energy than I do. I decided to stop googling and worrying myself and listen to what she wanted me to do and take it one day at a time. I’m making sure he’s getting enough food before his shot and very few (if any) treats. He gets a few pieces of his refular food for a treat for going potty, and a small bit of cheese when the other dog has his seizure pill. The vet said that was fine. It’s all so new and I’m trying to find our new normal. Thank you so much for your help.

  • bojangles

    Hi amanda,

    Let’s start at the beginning please. What were his symptoms? What was his BG at time of diagnosis? What insulin(s) is he on, at what dosages? What blood tests were done, and what were the results? What food is he eating now? What is your vet’s gameplan going forward?

    Let’s get the facts first, and then we can go from there. Please take a deep breath and we can take one step at a time.

    Breathe πŸ™‚

  • thatamandagurrl

    Thank you. And that’s good for a diabetic dog? I’m so worried I’ll give him the wrong thing. My vet said he could stay on his original food and we could work the insulin around that but I thought something better for him was a better idea. He’s just not wanting to eat actual dog food but he definitely has an appetite. She also said that she doesn’t want me testing at home because it could ruin the relationship I have with my dog.. I ordered a meter anyway, but I have no idea how often to test or what to do with the results if she doesn’t want me to test him at home.. It’s all so overwhelming and expensive which makes me feel guilty. He’s also really wanting snacks between meals and has started looking for anything on the floor. I don’t know what’s safe to give him so I’ve been just giving him a few pieces of dog food when I notice him looking for things. I had been giving carrots but they messed with his levels I think. Then I read about other health things that can happen with canine diabetes and freaked myself out and have been thinking of ways to save for if that happens. I don’t know if my reaction is normal or if I’m being overly dramatic. It’s just I have no idea what to do or how to go about every day if I think all of these things can go wrong… Thank you for your help and I’m sorry for blurting this out to you. I just am so scared.

  • bojangles
  • bojangles

    Hi thatamandagurrl,

    I’m so sorry that you’re feeling overwhelmed by your poodle’s diagnosis, and I’m sorry that your vet has not provided you with a lot of info regarding your dog and diabetes πŸ™

    Diet is only one of the essential parts of controlling diabetes. Proper insulin dosages and type orf insulin as well as home testing of blood sugars are also necessary.

    In the end as far as diabetes is concerned, it alll comes down to normalizing blood sugars as best as possible under you and your pup’s specific curcimstances.

    Let’s start with a homemade chicken based recipe that with the recommended supplement is 100% nutritionally complete and balanced. The recipe is from BalanceIt.com and I made it with their recipe generator:

    https://secure.balanceit.com/recipegenerator_ver4/

  • thatamandagurrl

    Hi. I was reading through thousands of comments over the past week. My dog, Cashew, was just diagnosed diabetic this Monday 9/17/2016 I’m not getting a heck of a lot of info from the Vet so I’m doing all the research on my own. I just want my baby to be okay and live a long life. He’s a toy poodle (possibly and mix) and is 14.4 pounds. We are still trying to get lis bg leveled out but I’m having a devil of a time getting him to eat his new food. He loves anything chicken. The best trick so far has been the egg on top of the food but he’s still spitting it out. I was considering making some food but I’m scared it won’t have the nutrition he needs. I’m totally and completely overwhelmed. I’m a broke psychology student entering her last semester before graduation which means internship on top of everything else. I feel so totally and completely alone. I know you’re a stranger but I just don’t even know what to do right now. Any help with a homemade food would be very much appreciated.

  • bojangles

    Hi steph,

    Here is a sample recipe that I would feed to a 20lb dog with diabetes. It is 100% balanced when used with the recommended supplement.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d34b313b1aa085ca16bf38a99680895657270066f063dcc093ccf70977ca4689.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b1cc928362dd5ea8cccb86d119495258c28b9c15bad7410457244f8291c0f6d4.png

  • Babslynne

    My dog does have some kind of allergy along with a thyroid problem, so I have found to avoid breakouts I feed him a grain free dehydrated mix called “Happy dog food”, I add hamburger that I boil and rinse to remove the fat because he seems to react to chicken. I don’t use the vitamin mix that comes with it because he reacts to that too, instead I give him a vitamin called “Cell Advance 880” made by Vetri-Science. I also give him 1 tbsp. of coconut oil with his meals twice a day. So far so good.
    http://www.happydogfood.com

  • Cindy Harper Langill

    My Golden won’t eat the hill dog food either and I was surprised that the first ingredients are protein based and she’s diabetic and some kidney stuff going on , so she’s been eating boiled chicken breast with carrots or sweet potato and a cup of rice if my dog won’t eat a full meal I give half the insulin dose or not at all, since I won’t be home for some time it’s hard

  • steph

    Thank you so much for replying. He weighs 20lbs though lately it seems he’s been really losing weight, I plan on bringing him to the vet. They recommended the prescription food but the ingredients were less then desirable so I refused. He’s not allergic to anything however I’ve noticed when he eats too much chicken lately, he’ll get diarrhea. He’s going to be tested for cushings as soon as I have the money, they think it’s likely he has it. I know he would love a homemade diet I’ve just been afraid he wouldn’t be getting all the nutrients necessary. Im immensely grateful for Any help you can give

  • bojangles

    Hi Cindy,

    Please see my comment above regarding diet and diabetes πŸ™‚

  • bojangles

    Hi steph,

    I’m sorry you’re having issues with oyur pup πŸ™

    Commercial foods are not a great choice for dogs with diabetes. A low carbohydrate diet is ESSENTIAL for controlling diabetes in dogs and people.

    One of the problems you’ll find in very low carb commercial foods is they’re very high in fat. Too high for dogs with pancreatitis.

    So your choices are limited when it comes to commercial foods:

    – Low carb foods are usually very high in fat and moderate to high in protein.
    – Low fat foods are usually high in carbs and moderate to high in protein.

    A homemade diet will enable you to better meet the needs of your dog no matter what their special requirements are πŸ™‚

    If you list your dog’s weight (or weight he should be if he’s under or overweight), and list any issues he has with any foods, and all of his medical conditions, then I’ll show you how to put together a couple of sample recipes from BalanceIt.com that can be tailored to fit your dog.

    Recipes on BalanceIt’s website are made nutritionally complete using one of their supplements which are formulated by Sean Delaney, DVM, MS, Diplomate of the American College of Veterinary Nutrition (DACVN).

    Of course you know that diet is only one of the essential parts of controlling diabetes. Proper insulin dosages and type orf insulin as well as home testing of blood sugars are also necessary.

    In the end as far as diabetes is concerned, it alll comes down to normalizing blood sugars as best as possible under you and your pup’s specific curcimstances.

    I hope this helps πŸ™‚

  • steph

    I’m at a loss.I have a 12 yr old dachshund, blind from cataracts. His blood sugar has always been erratic. He’ll be 300 one day and 100 the next (he even went a day without insulin and his blood sugar stayed 190). Lately he hasn’t been eating his food, he seems hungry most of the time but al the food I try end up giving him diarrhea or throwing up. He eats earthborn kibble,(10 pieces) and merrick 96%beef. I think the merrick is too rich for him though. Can anyone recommend a canned food good for diabetic dogs? I wanted to try homemade food but I have no clue what supplement to put in it or ingredients. He’s prone to pancreatitis so I need a low fat canned food. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

  • Cindy Harper Langill

    My golden turned diabetic with in 5 months of her last vet visit, has cataracts in one eye what brand dog food is everyone using that have worked well Ty

  • Mary Williams

    I have two diabetic pugs all of a sudden mine are over 8 yrs old you can get the insulin from Walmart with a prescription from your vet for insulin and syringe the insulin is $24. And a box of 100 syringe is about $13 human insulin is better for them then vet insulin sorry to all that have lost there pets but please check into it it might save your dog from suffering

  • Fay

    Hi
    Is the Kirkland canned food the only thing you feed your dogs? What about the supplements ?

  • Cannoli

    From my limited experience visiting vets offices they always push me credit card applications. i once took a look at a few of them and notice that the APR was high almost 24%. not much better than taking a loan from the mob.

    in my experience credit companies that offer such a high interest rate will accept anyone regardless of credit history

    so if my dog’s life depended on it and i had to pay hundreds in interest rate cuss i was broke, I would get the credit card offered by my vet

  • Hope Lyon

    I’m in the same boat. So I looked up financial aid for pets and found a huge list of organizations that will help with the expenses!! Just Google it and start applying to one’s you meet the criteria for!! Here’s a link to just one of the many I found: http://www.rosesfund.org/financial-resources.html

  • Belle

    Dear West Texas, There are options for your dog as far as treating his diabetes. Walmart sells very inexpensive insulin and syringes without a prescription. But you’ll need to work with a low-cost vet in your area. Try to reach out to low-cost spay neuter clinics in your area who could help advise you. They have vets on staff. You are wasting your time with Herbal Remedies. Your dog’s pancreas is not making insulin anymore and it cannot be replaced with a herb. You will need a vet with an insulin monitor to find out how much insulin your dog needs. They will do one or two insulin curves which takes several hours. I hope you seek help before your dog passes away from this. So sorry you’re having to deal with it.

  • bojangles

    Hi Pitlove,

    When you say that: “Hill’s has been successfully used for many years to manage diabetes along with other methods”, what criteria are you using to define the sucsessful management of diabetes?

    e.g.
    Range of blood sugars, avg blood sugar,

    Frequency of complications, time of onset of complications, type of complication,

    Time of survival after diagnosis,

    Quality of life measurements like eating, sleeping, peeing, pooping, drinking water, mobility, pain and perceived enjoyment of life.

    Published reports,

    Etc.

  • aimee

    Hi Debbie,

    I’m so sorry for your loss.

    As Pitlove said which food is appropriate for which diabetic is very individualized, it isn’t a one size fits all condition. I agree with Pitlove that Champion should not be giving out medical advice.

    Dr Mark Peterson is a well known veterinary specialist who focuses on the treatment of hormonal conditions in dogs including diabetes.

    This is what he has to say when asked about diet for diabetic dogs:

    What’s the best diet for canine diabetes?

    There is not one type of diet that is recommended for all dogs with
    diabetes. Diabetic dogs can do well when fed a number of diets as long
    as they are nutritionally complete and balanced, do not contain simple
    sugars, are fed at consistent times in consistent amounts, and are
    palatable to ensure a predictable and consistent appetite. ……In diabetic dogs that are overweight or obese, I always recommend
    feeding a reduced calorie diet designed to help the dog lose weight. The
    high fiber diets (such as Hills w/d) are good for this purpose”

    http://www.animalendocrine.info/search/label/Diabetes%20mellitus

    I hope in some small way it will help you to know that specialists in diabetes do recommend W/D for certain patients.

  • Pitlove

    Hi Debbi-

    Very sorry for the loss of your dog. Couple things tho… Hill’s has been successfully used for many years to manage diabetes along with other methods. Carbs do not automatically have to be removed from the diet for each and every diabetic dog. It is case by case and that is why no one but the vet who diagnosed the dogs diabetes should be advising your treatment plan for your dog. No one at Champion is in the veterinary nutrition field and they are certainly not qualified to tell you what the best diet or treatment for your dog is. Also I don’t not know why you were told Orijen Senior is 1% carbs as it is not. All of Orijen’s diets are around 30%. If you read the review on here about Orijen you will see that info is provided for you.

    Also what happened with the bag of Hill’s that had the bugs in it? Did they take it back? Did you buy another bag and did it also have bugs in it? That is a storage issue on the part of the vets office, not manufacturer error.

    I hope you do not feel that you did wrong by Henna in the choices you made for her. You certainly did not. I lost a cat suddenly at the age of 6. It took me a long time to let go of the thought that it could have been my fault because of X and X reason.

  • bojangles

    Hi Debbie,

    I’m so sorry that you lost Henna.

    Henna could have been diabetic for longer than anyone knew and that could be a factor in how quickly she got the cataracts.

    Hill’s w/d is a high carb, high fiber, dry dog food that I would never feed to a diabetic dog, or any dog for that matter.

    The ingredients may be suitable for some form of life, but a dog isn’t one of them!

    “Whole Grain Wheat, Whole Grain Corn, Powdered Cellulose, Chicken Meal, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Sorghum, Soybean Mill Run, Chicken Liver
    Flavor,Pork Fat, Soybean Oil, Pork Liver Flavor, Lactic Acid, Caramel color, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, L-Lysine, vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (source of Vitamin C), Niacin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement), Iodized Salt, minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Taurine, L-Carnitine, Calcium Sulfate,DL-Methionine, L-Threonine, L-Tryptophan, Mixed Tocopherols for freshness, Natural Flavors, Beta-Carotene”

    The diet I would recommend for a diabetic dog would be a wet food, (homemade, or commercial), that is high in protein moderate in fat and as low as possible in carbohydrates.

    The key to living a long life with minimal side effects for a diabetic dog is to keep blood sugars as close to the blood sugars of a non-diabetic dog as possible
    while avoiding any dangerously low blood sugars.

    Again I’m so sorry for your loss

  • chewy.com has very good prices and it is shipped to your door. have ordered off of them a couple times, and highly recommend them. free shipping I expected would take a long time no I had in 2 days.

  • Hill prescription W/D dog food. was prescribed to Henna diagnosed with diabetes the same day insulin and special prescription food. only 1 size bag cost $50. why didn’t I look at the ingredients at the vets office or before I gave her some to eat. meal meal meal lard. then I find about 25 live black beatle bugs and also little white worms that are the larvae. henna went downhill in less than 30 days after her diagnosis. the hills w/d is actually 67% carbs. I contacted Orijen in Canada the only dog food she has ever eaten. she was at the time eating orijen senior. Orijen said the senior had 1% carbs. I told them about Henna and what vet prescribed. they said diabetic dog should have low carbs and high fiber. henna went totally blind so I did put her to sleep. now as I research and read all the complaints about hills dog food I called Hills, then I called hills a 2nd time when I found the bugs and worms. I kept calling the vet about henna getting 1 cataract wanted to see vet, no you have appt for 30 day diabetes check just wait, so a couple days before the appointment she went totally blind I did have her upstairs with me in bedroom and she ended up falling down the stairs all the way from the top. She was really really afraid, was barking for all sounds outside, normally she only barks if someone knocks at the door, always loved the 1.5 year old little boy would even let him color on her back. when totally blind she did snap at him didn’t bite him. but I know she didn’t know who he was she was just scared. well yesterday I had enough and I called the vet. I told her when a dog has diabetes they are to have dog food that has low carbs and high fiber….the dog food you prescribed is 67% carbs and garbage and has ugly black crawling beetles and their larvae white worms. she fired back with she had acute diabetes it wasn’t the dog food. She never ever said henna had acute diabetes. someone did tell me eating that hills with 67% carbs worked against the insulin she was taking. so her sugar was high eating excellent orijen senior food, how high would it be eating that food with 67% carbs? I don’t understand how henna just diagnosed with diabetes, less than 30 days has a little yellow round looked like a tiny contac sitting on her left eye, but was perfectly fine, continued to eat that tainted dog food, went totally blind, fell down the steps, and lost 5 pounds all in less than 30 days. It’s not the dog food? What do you think? please let me know..

  • MainStreet

    I feed my diabetic dog a home cooked meal of: chicken, 90% ground beef, brown rice – make sure it’s brown rice, spinach and green beans. The recipe was created by balanceit.com and specifically for a diabetic dog. White rice will harm your pug.

  • bojangles

    Hi Debbi,

    I’m so sorry for your loss.

    Cataracts and blindness can happen very quickly in a diabetic dog. Once you know your dog has diabetes, it’s time to try and manage it the best you can.

    I could tell you how I would do it, but it’s a big commitment and it’s best to tailor the management of diabetes to the specific dog and their caretaker.

    I believe the goal for all diabetic dogs should be to normalize their blood sugars as much as possible. This means using insulin and reducing carbohydrates, while taking into consideration any other medical issues the dog might have, as well as the lifestyle of the caretaker and what they can afford to give, both in time and money towards controlling this disease.

    While successful cataract surgery would have been a wonderful thing, insulin, home glucose testing and managing carbohydrates are the three cornerstones of controlling diabetes in dogs.

    As for feeding a prescription food for diabetics, I believe with a little knowledge, and understanding of diabetes, people can do much better by not feeding any dry food to a diabetic dog.

    Again, I’m very sorry for your loss.

  • Babslynne

    Have you done any research on coconut oil?

    http://coconutoil.com/diabetes/

  • WestTexasRose

    I cannot afford a vet! My dog lost a lot of weight (85 lb. boxer), is skin and bone and has gone blind all in a matter of six weeks, She may have had symptoms for a few months, but I just didn’t recognize because I have four dogs. Like you, I have a lot of what ifs. She’s still here and I have ordered different herb complexes that are supposed to help stabilize her sugar and help remove some of the developing cataracts. I have her on raw food now, but she will eat something for one or two days and then reject it. She has done that for weeks and that’s why I just thought she was picky as usual. She is only 6 and I feel awful that I cannot afford to get her insillin, but I am doing all I can. I am on an income of less than $1,000 a month and it doesn’t allow any leeway. I am just writing this note to let you know my heart goes out to you in your loss. I understand the pain.

  • theBCnut

    The carbs in rice enter the blood stream very quickly, so it isn’t good for diabetic anything. Do you know why he is having diarrhea occasionally? You might want to look into preventing the diarrhea. Adding fiber to the meal may help and adding probiotics regularly may help. I agree that you need to discuss this with your vet, since some changes in your dog’s diet may be in order.

  • Pitlove

    These are questions you want to ask the vet who diganoised your dogs diabetes. Diabetes is too individualized for each dog for anyone but a vet to advise you.

  • Babslynne

    I know that people with diabetes are suppose to avoid or at least limit rice consumption, avoid carbs such as potatoes, bread, pasta and rice. I would think you could add green beans and carrots instead of the rice. Please correct if I’m wrong, anyone?

  • Franco Stefano Lodi

    Hello folks – I need some advise. My male pug who is almost 9 years old has been diagnosed of diabetes. He is now on insulin shots. Is it ok to give him boiled rice with boiled chicken ? Or is it rice harmful to a diabetic dog ? I have given him boiled rice/chicken combination for almost a year as he had diarrhea time to time. Pl. advise. Thank you.

  • I wanted Henna to have surgery to remove the 2 cataracts, my niece she couldn’t afford it AND that henna was old would only live a couple years more. After she is gone I discovered that even with not so good credit I would have been approved by a company called Care something. Just now I found a animal hospital that does cataract surgery. I am going to call to find out the price. curious how much, I wonder if my niece actually looked for animal hospitals or just googled cataract surgery dog. If only I would have researched and realized henna should be eating low carb dog food, and asked the vet is the food you sale and are recommending for henna low carb or high carb? at this point I honestly feel either she is behind times OR hills is paying her to sell their garbage? so you feel if she had got insulin shots, and stayed on her orijen senior dog food no cataracts right? looking on orijen site now it’s in canada/canada higher standards for pet food.

  • Lisa

    Hi Debbi,

    I’m so sorry to hear about Henna Love. You’re not alone in your grief. It gets me mad every time I read about how another Vet has failed another diabetic dog!

    I’ve heard it all and seen it all when it comes to the horrors of this disease. Vets still prescribe high-carb dry foods, even though they’re responsible for so many diabetic complications.

    Vets generally treat diabetes the same way it was treated in humans 50 years ago. Usually the Veterinary world is 10 to 20 years behind the times compared to human medicine, but in the case of canine diabetes, they’re about a half century behind.

    I wish I could do something to comfort you. You have my sincere condolences.

  • my pure bred female lhasa apso Henna Love was diagnosed with diabetes. she was 10 yr. 4 months old. was giving her orijen senior dry food, told to buy and feed only hills prescription W/D. also 2 injections of insulin. started out with 1/2 cup food could not eat all in one hour gave shot after she ate. ended up vet said to give 1/4 cup food give her one hour to eat take away what she didn’t eat, can’t graze all day. had appointment for 30 day recheck. approx day 22 she developed one yellow cataract, looked like a tiny contact sitting on her eye. Day 27 she started to walk into walls, I carried her out to her grass to go she was very afraid and just went in circles. her water bowl was upstairs I think she was going upstairs for her water? she fell down all the steps, but she didn’t cry?? went for the 30 day recheck, henna was totally blind, she just layed on the dr’s exam table no strength at all. Vet said she had lost 5 pounds in 30 days. I didn’t want her to suffer any more, I did put her to sleep. My vet gave her an anesthetic to put her in a deep sleep (she was snoring). then she had an IV placed. Afterwards I started to research the dog food she was eating for the 30 days. I had a dog die after eating purina beneful about 5 years ago. Henna was eating the best Orijen dog food – I gave her regional red (high meat) and then I found the senior formula for her. If I had looked at the ingredients in the prescription food I would have never bought it! garbage! High carbs! when henna was diagnosed the vet took many blood tests some had to be sent out afterwards she said not as bad as I thought. and then in 30 days she is totally blind, loses 5 pounds. How can that happen so quickly?
    I originally took her to vet because she was drinking alot of water and having accidents after going out. I thought it was a bladder infection and was told diabetes. after reading the ingredients and knowing it has high carbs and is a plant based garbage dog food. I feel this dog food caused henna to get one and then a 2nd cataract, and then total blindness. in 30 days!

  • kurnia59

    Don’t give Hills diet food. Read the contents, full of fat and by products. I fed my dog Hills dry food for two days and her glucose went to almost 700! So I stopped and have been making her own food.

  • kurnia59

    Make his own food. I do. All commercial dog food for diabetic dogs are crappy! Just look at the contents. No wonder my dog’s GB was always high. DO you know vets get commissions from dog food company to promote their brands?

  • kurnia59

    Prepare his own food. I do. Hills diet dog food is horrible! I tried it for two days (per my vet’s advice) and my dog’s glucose went to as high as 700!!!

  • theBCnut

    Fiber is not protein. It is a carb, even if we don’t actually digest it. Calorie counts are calculated by burning the feed and fiber burns just fine, so it gets counted, even though dogs don’t get any actual calories from it.

  • justmeKC

    Not all fiber is carbohydrate. Green beans have fiber. Most veggies have fiber and if it is a carb but also a protein, think quinoa, it is a low glycemic index.

  • ChristySpeaks

    See my reply above to Nicholas Hylton. I’ve had great luck with Kirkland for three years.

  • ChristySpeaks

    I have two diabetic dogs. I feed them Kirkland canned food — turkey stew with peas. I’ve had them on it for three years and it’s working great. You get it at Costco and it costs $19.99 for 24 cans. I highly recommend it for your diabetic dog!

  • Maddy H.

    Thank you for the info on the pet treats.

  • dunny10

    It is these:
    http://www.hillspet.com/en/us/products/pd-canine-presc-diet-treats
    On the bottom right corner of the bag, it lists the letter-combo of the prescription food that it is compatible with. My food is W/D I think. They are adequate. I break them in half and give a half to the dog when he comes in from outside. Its kind of bland, but he seems to like it.

  • MainStreet

    Have your Mom talk to the vet about switching to a new food – Walmart has a 5 star brand – here is the review – http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/pure-balance-dog-food-canned/ any food purchased from the vet is always expensive. Bread should not be given to a diabetic dog; can give green beans as a filler.

  • Sugar Twins

    Hi MainStreet,

    Me and my pittie are both diabetic. One reason I don’t feed commercial foods to Sweetness anymore is the low carb choices are usually super high fat.

  • Maddy H.

    Happy to hear that dog is doing so well. I’m hoping that at some point soon my vet will allow me to give my dog a treat. What is the name of the Hills treats?

  • dunny10

    It has been going pretty well. My vet didnt quite stress the amount of routine, just try to feed every 12 hours. I also give him Hills treats when he comes in from outside that go with the prescription.

    He seems to be doing very well. We got the diabetes regulated it seems. No more excessive water/urination. He seems to have a lot of energy and back to his old self. He also appears to be in great shape due to the strict diet.

  • Maddy H.

    My story is similar to yours, Dunny 10. I have a 10 yr. old Maltese. She was recently diagnosed as a diabetic. My vet prescribed Hills W/D. She gets 1/3 cup X 2 daily. She gets 2 units of insulin twice a day. What my vet stressed is that she must eat at precise times. He stressed how everything must be precise. 15 mins. after she finishes eating, she gets her insulin. And…she is to eat ONLY twice a day at 12 hr. intervals. I feed her at 6 a.m. and 6 pm. No treats whatsoever in between. It is difficult because she only weighs 7.5 lbs. and I know she is hungry. However, her BG numbers are terrific. I bring her in tomorrow for another BG check (her third). They may reduce her insulin down to 1.5 or 1 unit. The thing I want to stress here is how keeping everything precise (amount of food and feeding times) was the optimum word my vet used. It’s takes a lot of discipline because I want to give her a little treat, but I don’t. She also has Cushings disease with a lot of hair thinning and itchiness. Supposedly, she is to remain on this food and feed times for the rest of her life. Ugh! To me that is punishment.

  • Crazy4cats

    Hi Nicholas-
    Check chewy.com to see if their price is any better. When one of my cats was on Rx food for a urinary tract condition, I ordered his food there after I sent them a copy of his prescription. I have no experience with diabetes so I can’t help you with the other part of your question. Best wishes for your mom’s little furry boy.

  • Nicholas Hylton

    My mother has a little 15 pound dog with diabetes. He is on a specialty food (Royal Canin) to manage his condition and it is working very well. Unfortunately, it is very expensive and my mother is having an increasingly difficult time paying for the food. Is there anything she can supplement his diet with to make the food last longer? Say, bread or vegetables or something else?

    Could she order it online and get a better deal? If so, where?

    Any suggestions would be extremely appreciated.
    Thank you!

  • Pitlove

    According to the company, the LiveFree line has been discontinued.

  • myboohbaby

    Hi,does anyone feed the dogswell LiveFree kibble?

  • Denise

    HI Paul. I have a Manchester Terrier a little dog and she is pre diabetic. I found your information on making your Rat Terriers food interesting. Would you give me your recipe so I know exactly how to make the food? About how much do you feed Daisy? how many times a day? I also have a Puggle, he is overweight and I think this would be beneficial for him too. How would I estimate how much to give him? I hope you don’t mind me asking so many questions, but with all of the articles I have read, yours seemed to make the most sense to me. Thank you so much. Denise

    My personal email is: [email protected]

  • MainStreet

    Hi Fed up… Fiber is a complex carb which levels the blood sugar longer (think candy bar vs apple); it’s still a carb but better – it doesn’t SPIKE the sugar. Kibble is bad for our diabetic pets, I don’t care how low carb they are (Wysong Epigen 90 is the lowest but very high protein). There is no diabetic dog food that is right for all diabetic dogs. Unfortunately, we have to figure out what is best for our personal dogs (if underweight, ok if higher fat content, overweight, lower fat, etc). On canned, I called Merrick and they emailed me all their canned food’s carb/protein/fat content. I attached my spreadsheet sorted by carbs) I highlighted pink anything over 53% Fat-to-Protein ratio. BTW, the carb count is grams per whole can. Also checkout the website Balanceit.com – gives you recipes for homemade food. For a diabetic recipe, you’ll need your vet’s approval but it’s easy. It’s a long journey but you’ll get there! I learned so much in just 7 weeks and still learning..

  • aimee

    Hi Fed up,

    When you have your next blood glucose curve done bring your pet glucometer to the vet. Have your vet run the samples on both your meter and their test.

    Occasionally a meter can be a “lemon” and give you wildly inaccurate numbers so you want to know that yours is working well before you trust the numbers from it.

  • Fed up

    Thank you all.. It really is frustrating– My dog is going in for a glucose curve next thursday and I bought a pet glucometer for home—

  • LabsRawesome

    Take a look at Merrick canned foods.
    Check out the grain free formulas.
    I would never feed kibble to a diabetic dog.

  • aimee

    Hi Fed up,

    From what I’ ve read when feeding a diabetic dog it is important to look at the whole dog and not just focus in on the diabetes. Things to consider.. is the dog underweight overweight or good body condition. What is the lipid profile? What are the dogs concurrent problems if any? ( chronic pancreatitis is a common cause of diabetes)

    The profile of the diet: fiber fat protein and carb levels will depend on the answer to those questions. A low carb diet may not be appropriate for all diabetics.

    The other important factor is will the dog eat the diet reliably to time the intake with insulin administration.

    Good luck.

  • theBCnut

    Honestly, IMO, I don’t think even the highest quality kibbled foods are appropriate for a dog with diabetes. They are still around 30% carbs or more. Canned food or a homemade diet that is mostly meat with some low carb veggies is the way to go.

  • Fed up

    So ..what to do ?? Higher protein-Low carb food?? — Senior Orijen– it has practically no carbs I’ve been told..

  • theBCnut

    Fresh food is best, but balancing the diet is very important. Is there a source of calcium in your dog’s diet? Maybe a little more research into making homemade dog food would be in order.

  • theBCnut

    Carbs do turn into sugars, except that fiber is a carb. I have no idea why vets recommend doing this except that the recommendations are old and haven’t kept up with research or common sense.

  • Fed up

    OK –I’m new to dog diabetes and confused as to how to help reduce a dog’s blood sugar.. The Dr. suggests a dog food high in fiber and carbs..Now–I thought carbs converted to sugar.. Why would I give a dog food high in carbs when I’m trying to reduce his glucose?? Latest read was at 475 —-

  • Lexie’s non

    Was it hard to adjust when u switched?. Did u give the same as on vetsulin she’s on 20 units 2 x day.

  • Paul Martinez

    I am going on 3.5 years with my blind diabetic Rat Terrier Daisy. I have stayed pretty consistent with a combination of boiled chicken and then a combination of brown rice and lentl/quinoa or all three. I save the chicken broth and us it keep everything moist. i make everything in batches and refrigerate. I reheat the broth and put all ingredients in the bowl with a small amount of Nutro weight management dog food. I mix everything in a bowl and throw in som broccoli or boiled eggs sometimes. She eats it right up and has remained fairly healthy. She is 11yrs old now and has only been to the Vet twice for Diabetic related incident. I know where the food comes from so it gives me a sense of comfort. My other dog eats it too.

  • pagelee

    Blue Wilderness Healthy Weight has 10% fiber and 9% fat…it really helped my dogs glucose levels

  • pagelee

    my dog got yeast in his paws when he first was diagnosed.i soaked his paws in vinegar and water 50/50(never straight vinegar,its extremely painful and too strong)you can also rub athlete foot lotion into his paws…just rub it in good so he doesnt lick it off.i found the easiest way to soak his paws was to pour a bath with about 4 inches of water,add the vinegar and have the dog stand in it for at least 15 minutes a day.in the summer a small kiddie pool also works.i had an awful time regulating his glucose levels and finally bought a cheap meter and strips and checked his sugar myself before eating and 4,5 and 6 hrs after eating.i called the results to my vet weekly and he had me change the insulin levels until we got it right.it was less stressful on the dog because he didnt have to go to the vet weekly.Sadly my dog ended up losing his eyesight 6 months in. he was diagnosed 2 years ago and does quite well blind.its amazing how adaptable dogs are.he is now 11

  • pagelee

    My dog is on insulin and after many tries i found Blue Wilderness Healthy Weight.It has the highest fiber of any dog food out there.fiber is 10.0% and Fat is 9.0%.It brought is glucose levels down about 50 points in 2 days.I feed him 1 cup plus a half a can of 4Health chicken stew per meal. (he weighs 100lbs and is a very tall lab…he is actually skinny and has lost 10lbs since getting diagnosed with diabetis and thyroid problems.

  • pagelee

    Our local Tractor Supply store also sells a dogfood called 4Health that is comparable to Blue Wilderness but much less cost.Blue Wilderness Healthy Weight has the highest fiber of ALL dry dogfood and brought my dogs levels down considerably,i feed him the BW dry and the 4health wet.99 cents a can.my Boston T gets the 4health for small dogs.

  • pagelee

    if you are in an area that has a Walmart,they have Novolin N for $25 a vial. my dog is on 40 U twice a day and he goes through a touch over 2 vials a month. No script is needed to get the Novolin N. Our local CVS sells the same exact insulin for $135 a vial! It is crazy how much they mark up insulin.

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  • MainStreet

    Hey el doctor — I called Merrick and asked for further information on their cans … here’s what they gave me as ACTUAL per can:

    Merrick Grain-Free 96% Chicken

    Carbs: 2.05 grams

    Fat: 33 g

    Protein 37g

    Cowboy Cookout

    Carbs: 11.55 grams

    Fat: 18 g

    Protein 43g

    These figures seem unbelievably good in the carb department and Cowboy also in the fat… do you think I’m missing something? Merrick readily gave me a lot of information to help in my quest to find low carb/low fat for my little guy.

  • MainStreet

    el doctor — I called Merrick and asked for further information on their cans … here’s what they gave me as ACTUAL per can:

    Merrick Grain-Free 96% Chicken
    Carbs: 2.05 grams
    Fat: 33 g
    Protein 37g

    Cowboy Cookout
    Carbs: 11.55 grams
    Fat: 18 g
    Protein 43g

    These figures seem unbelievable – do you think I’m missing something?

  • Brook Pinkston

    Is this for diabetic dogs? What is the price for a comparable sized bag? (27.5 lbs.)

  • Patti Roberts

    I have checked all the sites and Chewy has the best prices of all. They ship and you get it in 2 days. They are great. If you don’t like the food or your dog won’t eat it then just tell them and they will refund your money no questions and you don’t have to send it back. They are great

  • Patti Roberts

    I agree it is a lot. I am trying to find a dry with high protein, low fat (under12%) and high fiber. I can’t afford the wd anymore. I do give whole earth beef stew canned but want a dry to mix with it to even out the glucose. Any suggestions for a moderate priced dry food.

  • Patti Roberts

    Your not reading the suggestions correctly. If they vomit…its means if they eat, you give a fill dose of insulin and then they vomit. Then you let th e m eat it so you know exactly how much of there food they have reeaten. All meals are monitored and weighted out closely. If you have just made there meal then there isn’t any toxin or poison in it. If there blood glucose level is low then of course it makes sense not to give the whole dose of insulin, that would just drop it to a dangerously low level.
    Warming the syringe of insulin under your arm or between your lips does not introduce bacteria because the needle is capped.
    You can not base an increase of insulin oh a high number. Each 1 unit of insulin has the potential to drop the blood glucose level 100 points. So if your lowest reading was 150 it could drop to 50 or lower and the dog would be hypoglycemic which is an emergency. The dog could go into seizures and die very quickly at those low levels. I suggert anyone who has questions about any advice that is given in that group just go and read what is posted, the reasons why and ask questions. Think for yourself and don’t post things like that last post without all the knowledge and reasons for doing it. There are very few vets that have the knowledge of treating diabetis..

  • Hi MainStreet

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  • MainStreet

    Thank you Sandy, that helps clear up my confusion!

  • It is for the group average of 27%.

  • MainStreet

    Hi Dr. Mike and theBCnut – specifically, when I look at your review for “http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/before-grain-dog-food-canned/
    you state “the dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 46%, a fat level of 27% and estimated carbohydrates of about 19%.

    As a group, the brand features an … Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate content of 27% for the overall product line”

    When you write: Above-average protein. Near-average fat. And near-average carbs when compared to a typical canned dog food. Is the statement β€˜near-average carbs’ referring to the 19% or the 27%?

    I am comparing, looking and comparing again food for my diabetic dog. There have been many great suggestions on this site (el doctor) and I wanted to be sure I read your review properly. Thank you!

  • theBCnut

    Yes, the review formula, but if the other formulas in the line are much different from the review formula, they will be noted with a different star value beside their name up near the top of the review. Usually, if the formulas are in the same review, they share a great many characteristics. If they are very different, they get their own review. Dr. Mike tries to use an average formula from within the line as a representative in his review.