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Thanks for your explanation too Patty. That makes sense as well. I just do what I’m told, lol! Ha ha!

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Thanks for explaining that, HDM…..way better than I ever could. When you get a sec, can you take a look at my question to you a few posts up?

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It’s just what I’ve learned to do from people on here and reading elsewhere. Makes sense, in the wild, wolves don’t make a kill and eat every day. Sometimes they go days without eating. Also, I guess it’s good to give their body a chance to get rid of everything in it every once in a while. I guess the same reason some people fast sometimes.

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Oh & I forgot to mention, I do fast Bailey every Sunday evening. She gets her food Sunday a.m., and then doesn’t eat again til Mon. a.m.

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HDM or anyone else, I’d like to run down what I’ve been feeding Bailey on a regular basis to see if I’m doing ok & she’s on 13 days of solid, perfect stools, so that’s a plus.

I balance her days meals out to be about 1 1/2 pounds, what she’s supposed to be eating and I don’t do exactly 3/4 lb. for each meal, but I do get pretty exact for the day.
A.M.: about 1/4 Deli Fresh (working on phasing that out), 1/4 lb. Ground beef grind (from Hare Today)(Beef, organs, tripe and bone), & I just started mixing in more ground green tripe, every other day I give her either 1/2 pouch of sardines in water or 1 cage free egg w/shell, I scoop yogurt (usually every other day) & every day she gets Dr. Harvey’s Multi Vitamin Mineral & Herbal Dog Supplement, 1/2 tablet one a day vitamin & 1/4 tsp. coconut oil.

P.M.: Turkey neck & gizzards or 2 small chicken backs and a chicken foot and chicken livers & gizzards.

I think I got everything. I’m wondering if I’m giving her too much bone. Her poop is solid and not coming out white and powdery or anything. Do you think I’m doing ok? It’s been exactly a month since I started her on raw. I think I might have moved along too fast introducing new stuff, but Bailey’s been doing great as of late…

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Sandy, in that brochure that Michos spoke of, on their website, it says all the ingredients and guaranteed analysis of all their formulas.

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LOL! It’s worth a try. What’s weird with me though, is my legs don’t bother me when I lay down to go to sleep. Just when I’m sitting watching tv, a couple hours before bed, is when they really act up. I have to change positions very often or get up and move around. Maybe I’ll start walking instead of sitting on my butt watching tv! I know Bailey would like that!

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Really? I’ll have to try that. Not quite sure I can do a mile, but we have been walking farther and farther. I have to get my butt in better shape to keep up with Bailey.

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HDM, you have NO idea! Absolutely no turning back now! 90% of the food in my fridge/freezer is Bailey’s. She eats better than I do! I know I have you awesome people, especially you, to come to if I need help! & thank you again for your input/opinions on how you would have handled our minor setback. I was all set to just give up the raw, but I am so very glad I didn’t. & I am so very glad I found this site!

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Just wanted to share some more good news with all of you! Bailey’s poop is still normal (small, solid) (knock on wood, lol!) AND I gave her chicken liver with her dinner, for the first time yesterday, and she loved it AND it didn’t give her runny poop! I did only give her a little bit, but I was all prepared for it not to agree with her, but she’s been fine. Yay! 🙂

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Can he still go for walks? Maybe take him for a walk before bedtime, or right before he usually starts his barking. Or maybe he has restless leg syndrome, like I do, and can’t get settled. I only get it in the evening. Not sure if dogs can get that, but I have to keep getting up and moving around while I’m watching tv in the evening. Bailey hates it, because she is usually on my lap and I have to make her move.

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Lisa M, how is your baby Bleau doing? I hope he’s back to normal and everything is ok. Please update us when you can…

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Here is a link for you in case you want to check out the Diatomaceous Earth!

http://www.earthworkshealth.com/pets-animals.php

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The only thing I can add to this, is to try adding Diatomaceous Earth to his food daily, in case it is parasite related. That will kill just about any parasite including worms and giardia. I take it daily and I give it to Bailey daily. It is all natural and it is like 80% silica, which our bodies need anyways. My Bailey has had her share of (I won’t even try to spell it) loose stools lately. So other than pumpkin, and feeding more bone, I don’t know what else.

Love your dog’s name, too, by the way. My last dog, a doberman, was named Moose! It was a joke name at first, just to name all the pups in the litter, and his name stuck…..and he stuck with me…….for 11 and a half awesome years! 🙂

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Oh ok, I can see it. That is a great pic! I wish we could post more pics under our “profiles”.

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Wow!! That’s awesome! From that picture of you that you had just posted, I so wouldn’t take you as having that many, lol! I want to get my dog Moose, who passed away, done, but I am so scared that it won’t come out looking like him. Other tattoos are different, because it doesn’t have to be exact, but the ones of loved ones and our pets, they have to look like them, and I would be totally devastated if I went thru getting a big tattoo like that and it didn’t look like him, you know?

The rest of mine, except for the memorial ones, are just random stuff. My favorite is my tribal lion head (I’m a leo). I think it came out perfect. Tattoos are definitely addictive! 🙂 Thanks for responding! 😉

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Thanks Sandy, & yes Bongo Buddy it did clear up. Here is a link to the thread that pugmomsandy was talking about. The last 2 comments of mine address that issue.

/forums/topic/all-natural-dog-shampoo/

My suggestion to you Bongo Buddy, read, read, read, take notes, ask questions, etc. I researched for about 2 and a half months before I finally bit the bullet and started my dog on raw. I am SO glad I did!

Good luck to you! There is A LOT of information in the forums and you can always ask questions. The people here helped me more than I could have imagined and if it wasn’t for them, I don’t think I’d have stuck with it! It’s the best thing you can do for your dog!

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Hi HDM! Thanks & yes it did clear up, thank god! All week she’s had small hard normal poop & she’s been doing great. (knock on wood) This week I am going to start giving her tripe. I get my next order from hare today on Tuesday so hopefully that goes off without a hitch. I got tripe by itself and I also got the ground beef with the organs, tripe and bone. I’d like to eventually take her off the Fresh pet all together and do the beef grinds in the mornings instead. Even with the problems she’s had, I am so glad I switched her to raw and stuck with it!

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Well, I ended up buying Earthbath Meditteranean Shampoo from Chewy.com when I ordered Bailey’s supplements. I gave her a bath about an hour ago & I LOVE that shampoo! (Thanks Sandy!) I took Bailey outside after her bath to sit on the deck to dry in the sun & holy crap does her coat shine! I am amazed! Not that it was that dull, but man, what a shine! & she is so soft & smells amazing! So, she’s been eating a raw diet for a month now, got a bath with all natural shampoo & she looks awesome! She’s got a soft, shiny coat, bright eyes, whiter than white teeth & a very happy mommy! 🙂 Thank you everyone for all your help, suggestions & opinions! I couldn’t have done it without you! I hope everyone’s having a great weekend!

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Thanks Boxermom! I didn’t know they made pet shampoo either. That’s funny what it says on the bottle, lol!

& thanks HDM! Dr. Harvey’s Herbal Protection is one of the ones I was going to get. I might also try the Mercola Organic Lavendar shampoo. I LOVE lavendar, even though that stuff is a little pricey.

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Wow! I never knew about side effects like that from a rabies vaccine. I can’t even imagine what you’re going thru. I sure hope everything turns out ok for your dog. Please do keep us posted. Hang in there!

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Thanks Marie! I saw an old post of yours that made me laugh. Someone had recommended getting their dog tattooed, I think the thread was about microchipping, and you posted something about getting all excited to see the topic of tattoos brought up, Lol! Made me laugh! I’m curious to know how many you have. I have 10 myself. 11 and 12 coming soon. I’ve gotten ones in memory of my immediate family members I’ve lost, and each one I want touched up, and I still need to get one for my dad who passed last year and one for my Moose (my doberman), who I lost almost 2 years ago. My other tatts are just random ones.

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I hope lisam updates us on her situation. This made me very sad for her and her dog and I’m very interested in knowing what happened and what was the cause…

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Thanks Sandy! I’ll check those out.

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Thanks for posting these. I won’t buy anymore store bought treats and I’ve been looking for treat recipes to make. Great idea for summer!

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Lol! Party animal! Lol! Cmon, Patty, admit. Now we’re all gonna find out about the real you! Lol!

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I usually use dictionary.com, especially for work. But, I just don’t care most of the time, & I figure if most of the letters are there, & somewhere close to where they should be, people should know what I mean, and I’m lazy, lol! It doesn’t help that my computer mocks me by underlining the word, telling me its spelled wrong, but won’t tell me the right way to spell it!

& Yes!! Woo Hoo, no runny poop!!

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Ha ha!!! Ain’t that the truth! I can’t for the life of me, ever remember how to spell that damn word anymore! I’ve just given up. I spell it different every time I write, but I figure you guys know what I mean, lol!

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2nd poop today, HARD!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Finally, a whole day without diarreha! (sp?)

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I don’t think so Sandy. If she was getting too much, wouldn’t that have the opposite effect of runny poop? I thought her poop would be too hard if she was getting too much bone. I really haven’t been giving her that many chicken legs. & she’s only had a turkey neck twice, tonight being the second time. Thanks for your input though. I really appreciate any feedback, just in case there IS something I’m missing.

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Thanks so much HDM! I tried so hard to figure that out and my brain just goes elsewhere after a few tries, lol! That’s actually about what I’ve been feeding her, maybe a bit less. I don’t exactly know what an “average” activity level is, but that’s what I always assumed. I would imagine it’s ok to feed less at one meal and then more at her 2nd meal of the day, but making sure she’s getting very close to what she should be eating for the day. Sometimes, like when I give her a turkey neck, I adjust her other meal for the day accordingly.

Not sure if you saw what I wrote earlier, but she pooped this morning on our walk and it was HARD!!! 🙂 Made my day! Thanks for ALL your help!

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Ok, need someone’s help, please. Math was always my very worst subject. I’m trying to figure out how much I should be feeding Bailey at every meal. She did weigh 53lbs. when I started her on raw and I’d like to keep her there. No clue what she weighs now, because I had my boss weigh her on his scale and it broke, because he got on it holding her to figure out her weight and he’s a BIG guy anyways. I know she hasn’t gained or lost a whole lot. Anyways, I feed her twice a day and I fast her on Sunday evenings for just the one meal. I don’t think I’ve been feeding too much, and like I said to Sandy, I may be feeding too little.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I have been feeding her chicken with just about all the skin off. & she’s not overeating, because I weigh everything. If anything, I might not be giving her enough, because I never really adjusted how much I’ve been feeding her since I fast her once a week.

We just got back from her walk and she pooped! A Hard One!!! Yay!!! Lol! It had a bit of moistness with it, in a way, but when I picked it up, the poop was really hard. So, that’s a plus. I was very excited! I guess I shouldn’t be, but it’s better than what she was doing. She’s having a turkey neck for dinner, with no skin, so that shouldn’t be a problem either, so we’ll see how she does…

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I know, right? But I think I’d rather have Bailey poop every other day, lol! I have been going crazy trying to figure out what the heck is going on, but with any luck, I’ll get it all figured out. Thanks Marie! 🙂

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Marie, she’s never had canned or dehydrated, since I’ve had her anyways. So, I’d be really afraid to try something different again, at this point. I’m gonna try to give it a few more days and see what happens, then if sticking with the raw doesn’t work, your idea and what HDM suggested, sound like the option I’ll go with. I really don’t want to go back to just kibble, even though she was getting Nature’s Variety Instict and Deli Fresh, so that wasn’t all THAT bad.

I have read about the problems you are going thru and I hope it’s gotten better for you. This is so frustrating. I know you know that. But, with any luck, maybe just balancing out Bailey’s meals and feeding her what I know she’s been ok with will do the trick.

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Oh, ok. Thanks HDM! I’ll just get one of the herbal stool supplements you suggested, for now. But, let’s hope she does NOT still have loose stools come Friday!

Hi Sandy, Yes, there was a time when she had normal stools. This week starts her 4th full week on raw. She had a problem with runny stools and threw up once right at the beginning, but that only lasted for like a day and a half, 2 days at most. Then she went 11 days with perfect hard, small poops. The only thing that was different in her diet this time she got diarrehea (sorry, I just can not spell that word) was I added a small piece of chicken gizzard to her food. I can see her possibly getting runny stools from that, but not for 4 days, right? I am going to, more or less, start over. I’ll stop introducing new foods and just keep her on chicken thighs and leg quarters and the chicken grind for a bit longer.

So, I gave her breakfast about 45 minutes ago and nothing yet. She didn’t poop first thing this morning, of course, because I fasted her last night, so we’ll see. I’ll keep you guys posted….

Thanks you guys! Happy Memorial Day!!

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LOL!! @ Patty!! I thought I was the only one who craved Ramen Noodles! LOL!!

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HDM, I actually had that written down to get when I get paid on friday. I was actually going to get Dr. Harvey’s Multi Vitamin Mineral & Herbal Dog Supplement, but I will look into the one’s you suggested instead…..or both. Thanks again!!

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HDM, thank you so very much for your opinions and suggestions. I do still have her on the probiotics. Or, I should say I put her back on them when the loose stools started again, along with pumpkin. I’m wondering, instead of the freshpet tomorrow morning, like I have been giving along with a couple other things, maybe I should give her a rmb for breakfast? She hasn’t pooped since this morning so I am going to be on pins and needles till she does go tomorrow. I will keep an eye on her in the yard and not leave her out for a few days, as hard as that will be. And you are correct (good memory) that she was on Fresh pet, well, Deli Fresh and Nature’s Variety Instinct. I do still have her on the Deli Fresh, which I give her in the mornings along with whatever else I have, like chicken grind, or ground beef, etc.

My gut tells me to ride it out and give it just a few more days. I’ll try to keep her diet as regular as I can and see what happens AND supervise her in the yard. I guess I just needed to hear it from someone else. Thank you HDM, so much. I really, really appreciate it! And if you would, could you please cross your fingers for me, lol! I need all the luck I can get. Thanks again!! Have a good evening!

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lassiebaby, go here /forums/topic/how-to-create-your-own-custom-avatar/
to find out about adding a picture. And to post a new topic, go to the forum subject you want, and go to the bottom of the page to start a new topic.

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I know you said you were out of suggestions &I apologize for sounding so desperate. But, anything you could suggest might help. You have alot more experience than I do & I just dont know what else to do, but I dont want to do the wrong thing. If you suggest that the best thing to do would probably be go back to kibble, then I would probably end up doing that…

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Thanks HDM! I’m really, really frustrated, because I don’t want to go back to feeding her kibble instead of raw. Do you have any suggestions? Maybe ride it out a few more days? Give her a few straight meals with alot of bone? I mean, she is acting totally fine, except for the loose stools. She only had one bm today, and it WAS better than yesterdays, and I fasted her tonight. I have been feeding her enough bone meals. Dinner is when she gets her RMB’s and I’ve never skipped a bone meal. That’s why I just can’t figure it out. Do you have any suggestions or do you think maybe some dogs just can’t handle a raw diet? I totally value your opinion and would appreciate any suggestions you might have.

An afterthought, I have been wondering if maybe she’s eating something in the yard that she shouldn’t. She is out there alot during the day. She loves to just sit and watch the goings on around her and I hate to keep her couped up in the house when it’s so nice, I just can’t watch her every second though….

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Well, I am going to be taking Bailey to the vet & I guess I’m going to take her off raw and go back to what she did well on without having diarehhea all the time. I knew I wasn’t going to be able to handle doing the raw thing. I have no idea what I’m doing wrong & I don’t know what else to do.

Bye everyone & thanks for your help. I hope you all have a nice holiday.

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For a few days this week, her poop was just very soft. Last night it was a bit on the harder side. First poop this morning was hard, then about an hour after breakfast it was complete liquid. I know she’s eating grass outside, but other than that nothing has changed except for the turkey neck for the first time last night. Last week when the very soft poop started, I had given her a very small amount of chicken gizzards. So I didn’t feed that again, just her normal stuff. I have been watching the amount of skin on the chicken (I take alot of it off) and she hasn’t had anything else out of the ordinary lately. Should I maybe give her a few RMB’s for meals for the next couple meals? I have been giving her pumpkin and probiotics with meals since the diarrehha (I wish I could spell that word, lol!) started.

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Good Morning Everyone! 🙂 I have more questions…

I would like to know if anyone can tell me how fast diarrehea can happen if a food doesn’t agree with a dog? I have been having problems with with Bailey with runny stools, off and on for about a week. She’ll do great for a few days, have small hard poops, then all of a sudden have very runny poop for a few days. I have every meal written down what she’s been eating since we started raw on May 5, and I keep going over it trying to figure it out. She was doing great, then had runny poop, went back to 2 or 3 hard poops, gave her a turkey neck last night for dinner (for the first time), she had a hard poop this morning, ate breakfast, then watery poop on our walk about an hour later. I am getting really frustrated and almost thinking of going back to just the Deli Fresh and Nature’s Variety Instinct kibble that she was on before I switched to raw. If it wasn’t for her looking better, shinier coat, brighter eyes, more playful, etc., I probably would have already….

Any help or opinions would be greatly appreciated!!

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Ah, ok. Both of those are new to me.

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Lol! I would say so. I know all the ones you listed except “GFETE”. I’ve never seen that one before. That’s about the extent of my abbreviated knowledge, except for the obvious OMG & ones like that, lol!

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Oh, ok. I’m not up on all those abbreviations. I know what “SMH” means (shakes my head), but I don’t know what “SHM” means. Lol! Oh well. I feel old! Lol!

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Betsy, I’m glad it happened the way it did and not the way you thought, lol! Not sure what “KWIM” means.

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Lol! It was pretty funny. I laughed more once I got home. I wish I could have gotten a picture of my neighbor and his friend’s faces. They were pretty repulsed. Lol!

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