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  • in reply to: Probiotics & Enzymes Causing Massive Diarrhea #91112 Report Abuse
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    Panacur will get the giardia or protozoa first round and then a follow up round to get any repopulating ones and much safer than antibiotics which don’t kill the protozoa they just strip the gut and make things worse. As far as a quick solution that seems to work for diarrhea for every dog is SLIPPERY ELM, 1/4 capsule for 20pounds, get one that is good guaranteed brand like Solary. Mix with food to make sure stool get firm. This is the best quickest solution but it doesn’t kill the protozoa so you still need to use Panacur. As far as a great kibble with a probiotic that would be Acana SINGLES (meaning one protein). And yes miracle probiotic is great but don’t follow the directions DOUBLE/TRIPLE it while treating the dog for diarrhea and protozoa.

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    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #91035 Report Abuse
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    Hey everybody, i just remembered something about my Shitzu (who passed away), okay i told you all that the colonoscopy confirmed severe inflammatory bowel disease and vet said he had months to live and we changed him to a raw diet and he lived another 8 years anyway, he craved coconut oil, we gave it to him as a treat, his body knew he needed it and i have read hat coconut oil kills parasites included giardia, so I’m going to see if my new rescue likes it as a treat. Anyway just wanted to pass that along and if anybody else tries it for diarrhea from giardia, lets all report back with results.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #91009 Report Abuse
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    FYI just want you to know there are different people commenting here and I never called you ridiculous. I do want to know why you feel slippery elm won’t firm up the stool if it’s a protozoa? It did for my dog and i consulted a rescue who uses it to firm up stools when infected with protozoa(s). just a few days ago you didn’t know about slippery elm, i’m wondering what brand you bought and if it had guaranteed potency? all we can do here is give our advice of what has helped and what has not helped. since soothing the intestines to allow them to heal is crucial, maybe you could try the mastic gum that helped my other dog but again i used that for ‘severe’ inflammatory bowel disease.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #91000 Report Abuse
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    agreed, there are a lot of vets who listen to your concerns, and will prescribe based on your knowledge of the dogs symptoms first rather than what can be a false negative fecal. change to a vet who listens to your concerns and who you feel comfortable with. Antibiotics don’t have to be the first option unless there is a life-threatening infection, many dogs can get over an over abundance of bad bacteria with change of diet and lots of probiotics and mastic gum is also used to heal the intestinal tract too. because my shitzu had severe inflammatory bowel disease that is what a holistic vet had to prescribe (mastic gum) along with raw diet, probiotics. i found the mastic gum a savior for my Banjo because he was lethargic and very ill too but wouldn’t use it for a dog who is acting normal other than the diarrhea. Don’t let the diarrhea go on for long as was said by others he will get sicker and sicker because he will become dehydrated and not absorbing enough nutrients, therefore you might consider changing the brand of the slippery elm or increasing the dosage to firm up that stool soon.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90989 Report Abuse
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    I would go out and buy a guaranteed potency brand of Slippery Elm. Slippery Elm will firm up your dog’s stool, so either you’re not using enough or it’s not a guaranteed potency brand. Unfortunately there are many herbs on the market and they are ‘not’ regulated so many have been found to not contain what is stated on the bottle. Since your not sure your pup has a protozoa how can anybody tell you when his stool will firm up? It could be an over abundance of bad bacteria. Plus if the slippery elm isn’t soothing the tummy and firming up the stool then diarrhea could continue even if the cause is corrected as the damage to the lining of the intestinal system needs to be repaired too along with a modified diet and protiobics. It is very tricky, possibly too much damage has been done to the intestinal lining which was what happened with my shitzu and the only thing that helped him was also changing him to a raw diet, but his damage was extreme and verified through an endoscopy (which was very expensive test), so vets are good for something, they help diagnose the extent of the problem. BTW: my vet was shocked that my shitzu had severe inflammatory bowel disease, i kept telling our vet something was horribly wrong with my dog, they dismissed my concern because the dog was always happy when he went on an outing even to the vet, he’d act happy their but at home curl up in a tight ball and vomit/have soft stools with mucous at home and never move, i’d even have to carry him out to pee/poo. I since changed vets and have one that listens to me, as i know the dog best.

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    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90985 Report Abuse
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    maybe/maybe not depending on how bad it is, here is a story so you understand……it’s a horrible battle if the dog as inflammatory bowel disease. years ago my shitzu was so sick, his stools had mucus and were soft, he curled up in a tight ball and laid around all the time, he was restless at night, so finally i spent a ton of money an a colon and endoscopy because the vet did NOT believe me and tons of stools tests were done. The results came back and the vet was shocked – SEVERE inflammatory bowel disease. They told me he wouldn’t live more than 6 months. So i contacted a holistic vet and changed his diet to RAW and holistic supplements, what did I have to loose, it took 18 months before his gut healed and even then he still had bouts if i ever gave him a snack. All he could tolerate was RAW, it was a BIG hassle to feed raw and HUGE expense including the supplements, but it saved his life and he lived another 8 years, the first of those 8 years were NOT easy. He was my best friend, I can’t believe all i did for him, but I loved him so much. He finally passed 3 months ago (from a stroke from tooth infection, yet i scaled his teeth twice a month just not far enough under the gum line) and I’m still grieving, he meant the world to me.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90979 Report Abuse
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    If your pup has diarrhea and you haven’t yet discovered the cause, PLEASE give your pup slippery elm because it coats the villi in the intestinal tract and soothes the lining so it can heal, it will also bulk up the pups stools. if Slippery Elm is not making the stools more solid, buy a guaranteed potency brand i recommend Solaray Brand which comes in a 400mg per capsule and for a 20 pound dog all you need is half a capsule, so if the pup is 10 pounds or under try a 1/4 capsule. Even though slippery elm does not kill any protozoa it helps the lining of the inflamed gut to heal, which NEEDS to happen! So while you are trying panacur to see if it’s giardia or another protozoa at least you’re also healing the gut lining with slippery elm, which needs to happen. Also if panacur doesn’t work then it has to be related to an overgrowth of bacteria. Your pup will still need to heal the lining of the gut so PLEASE don’t discount using the slippery elm while you dose with lots of good quality probiotics, no grain diet, ONE protein (don’t use a food with multiple proteins) higher carb diet (sweet potato NOT rice) and last resort would be to use antibiotics with the no grain diet and slippery elm and probiotics. Keep us informed of the outcome.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90910 Report Abuse
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    IMPORTANT! If your dog has Giardia please do NOT let your vet give the pet antibiotics/metronidazole to treat it, it does NOT work, then the vet will give another round when it does not work and then it still won’t work and you will be very frustrated, PLUS antibiotics/metronidazole are very harmful to your pets intestinal system and causes other issues. READ up on PANACUR this WILL get rid of Giardia for sure and is much safer for your pet than an antibiotic that doesn’t work. It has a 96% success rate and it is very cheap to get via Amazon and if it doesn’t work the first time, which i usually does, then you can give a second round, plus a second round will kill any remaining protozoa that might pop up later down the road. The only other recommendation to get rid of Giardia if you want to try a natural method is plant enzymes (google: Dr. Jeans Treatment for Giardia) but they need to be given 5 times a day on an empty stomach, some people get frustration and don’t dose enough and end up not successful anyway so I’d go with Panacur and I normally prefer holistic choices but Giardia is a hard one to get rid of.

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    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90892 Report Abuse
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    If the only issue is diarrhea increase the slippery elm but also add a quality higher carb diet (sweet potato is great and so is pumpkin). Try a small amount of Pure Vita with your other food you are feeding the dog to bulk up his/her stools. BUT is you feel the dog has a parasitic protozoa your vet needs to kill those simultaneously!!! those have to be dealt with.

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    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90880 Report Abuse
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    Slipper Elm can be bought in capsules at places like Vitamin Shoppe. Dogs around 20 pounds can have 1/2 capsule mixed in a tablespoon water and poured over their food. 10 pound dog 1/4 capsule. I helped right away, but I NEED to add here that the KEY is changing the dog food slowly to NO GRAIN but higher CARB (good carb like sweet potato) diet. The PureVita Turkey/Sweet potatoes is excellent for firming up a dogs stool, i just don’t advocate using only a kibble, I mix PureVita with an organic canned that also has NO GRAINS. A NO GRAIN diet will save your dog from my diseases down the road and lots of vet bills, dogs intestinal systems are not designed to digest grains but switching them to a no grain diet gives them diarrhea so it needs to be done slowly.

    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90760 Report Abuse
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    WOW in just ONE full day this is working after a MONTH of struggling over loose stools! I believe it’s the SLIPPERY ELM that firmed it up that quick, but i bet adding the Pure Vita with 6% fiber will help when i remove the slippery elm from his diet. So in case others look at this post – i’m only mixing a small amount of Pure Vita with 100%meat based canned food, so it’s got to be the slippery elm that firmed up the stool so quick, but the Pure Vita will aid to keep it firm once i remove the slippery elm, i plan to use the slippery elm for 10 days before i remove it to make sure the intestines have had time to heal. yesterday, the first day his stool was firmer but still had some mucus, today it’s completely firm and no mucus. I also have been using pumpkin but will be removing that in a couple days. I don’t want to remove everything at once. The pumpkin didn’t help much only some so it’s the first to go.

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    in reply to: New Rescue has Diarrhea #90728 Report Abuse
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    I bought the Pure Vita Turkey kibble and am going to try mixing it with the organic natural planet canned turkey to see if that helps firm up his stool. I also bought slippery elm supplement as it’s the main ingredient in Perfect Form that you recommended too. I really don’t think he has worms, parasites but will take him in and ask the rescue if they can over the bill IF this new diet/supplements don’t work. I’m going to also continue adding pumpkin for a while into his food and probiotics since i still have both but need to eventually simply his diet to exclude supplements, i don’t mind mixing kibble with canned if that’s what he needs to have firm stools. Thank you ALL for recommending HIGH QUALITY fiber foods. It just goes to show not all dogs are the same, where one dog could only tolerate RAW(my shitzu) and this rescue seems to need some kibble. I’m really against most kibbles, as most have LOW QUALITY ingredients and grains/carbs, but there are so many NEW HIGH quality ones on the market nowadays, it may be the way of the future for keeping a rescue dog healthy. I’ll let you all know if this works.

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