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I still feed the yard Fromm, they are doing well. I have added a kitten that had three of its paws frozen to the radiator support of my Jeep that I rescued. Hope the little thing will survive. But sorry to hear about anybody’s loss of a beloved pet. It hurts, I know, been there and have not had a inside animal sense then. It may happen again someday when I allow one to get so close.
Cheri, sorry to hear the little fuzzies are sick. I feed Fromm and have done so for years, a pallet every month for the yard, plus the added raw chicken and deer. I will keep an eyeball parked on this thread. I stay in contact with Fromm due to breeding and shows, so if I can be of help you are welcome to PM me too.
Alexandria, their 4 Star for ALS is good food. Fromm has 11 varieties so you new family member won’t get bored. Maybe I could send you a mix of samples if you can’t get them near you?
John B, at this time I like to feed 60/40 kibble to raw. When I can hunt I will go back to 100% raw. I like to rotate kibble main proteins and Fromm 4-Star gives me a good variety. With raw its the same, rotate with chicken, deer, fish, pork, rabbit and all organic fed. I would use a digital scale to weigh out portions, then adjust as needed.
John B, at this time I like to feed 60/40 kibble to raw. When I can hunt I will go back to 100% raw. I like to rotate kibble main proteins and Fromm 4-Star gives me a good variety. With raw its the same, rotate with chicken, deer, fish, pork and all organic fed. I would use a digital scale to weigh out portions, then adjust as needed.
I think feeding a variety of raw is the best we can do. My large breed ate 3 large chicken quarters, raw of course, he’s had entire large rabbit, deer leg, turkey complete or whatever else I come up with for raw meat. He eats Fromm dry kibble w/o any problems. I think the hip and joint issues are mainly on man made breeds, they seem to be more prone to cancers ect too. I think we’ll better support these breeds systems feeding raw. JMHOApril 22, 2014 at 11:39 am in reply to: What to feed Mastiff and Chiweenies that is reasonably priced?! #39422 Report Abuse
Nutro isn’t as good as it use to be years ago. I won’t feed it or recommend it.
Canned food is normally 72% moister, you would do better to use Raw or dry kibble that you have weighed out and then soak with water. It will save you money too.
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Sue66b, do you treat the area where the puppies will be with anything pre/post birth?
I still use Forbid when needed. Sometimes they need more bacteria in their intestine, some will do this. As CMZ stated, try adding extra B-12 soft gel. Do you give antibiotics to your dog? ( Heart Worm meds) ect.
Sue66b, kitty crunchies!
Melissa, I wouldn’t want chicken feet either, too difficult and expensive to buy shoes!
I used a 3/4 HP meat grinder, fed raw chicken otb into it, easily chewing up 40 lbs. I would then add garlic, E, spinach and mackerel, place it in my Kichenaide mixer a few pounds at a time until all has been well. Then I use a digital scale to weigh each log for the dog. I changed main meats often.
Now that is funny, I don’t care who you are! You know it is a proven fact that “processed food” takes longer to digest (what’s digestable) in humans then raw fruits & veggies (which are actually fruit). I always respond/teach when they ask what I feed my dogs. In fact I like to feed chicken quarters once a week, I hope to add wild hog and deer to their plate this year.April 17, 2014 at 11:05 am in reply to: Concerned about giving milk thistle after Heartgard #38878 Report Abuse
theBCnut, Indoors I use the mosquito attractant lights that have a fan in the bottom. The squito heads towards the light, enters unit and the fan sucks it down into screened tray, squito can’t get out so fan dries them to a crunch. No toxins around for my dorgies, son or me. I have 3 units, they get millers and other buggies too.April 16, 2014 at 11:42 am in reply to: Concerned about giving milk thistle after Heartgard #38857 Report Abuse
You all must have a lot of mosquitoes where you live?
Seamark12, sorry to hear of your pets issue with Fromm. I have fed the yard Fromm for years. Do you still have the bag and/or lot number off bag? I ask because I will try and help all them who feed Fromm, sense I go through so much on my yard with Champions and International Champions, it’s very good food.
Cyndi, the breed and bloodline of the K9 makes a difference too. Even brood stock will conduct them self’s differently then what “outsiders” expect. The “working breed” is not happy just laying around. I have a cement able pole, they get attached to and play for hours w/o getting loose, called “The Tuff Pole” (Pat.Pend.) they enjoy it so much I have to stop them and remove them from the exercise area. One time a play toy was hung on the 7′ overhang instead of returning toy to house, well you guessed it, the dog jumped up and grabbed the toy then proceeded running around with it. They would tear up my house, and only one out at a time means the others in crates. I know they are happier outside. What experience do you have with Kangal’s Cyndi?
Cyndi, the dogs are not starving and subject to eating their dog house. My Kangal is the biggest on the yard, he is healthy and does not eat his house. He does dig up rather large tree roots to play with or dumps his 55 gal drum bottom water bowl and plays with it, chewing act but not eating. Some breeds will tear up their house no matter what you do except to remove the house, and I will not do that. I have replaced many houses over the years, that is why I started designing a custom house for winter or summer that is more difficult to damage and replaceable sections. Any more questions? Copy of monthly delivery of pallet of Fromm to show the yard is not starving? Don’t think Judges at shows give the dogs ribbons & trophy’s for looking starved or I’ll treated.
Me three 🙂
Melissa, what? The dog’s do not eat wood because they don’t get fed! I did end up using most the gallon. I too can’t locate a Dyne forum on their site to post the negative results of their product. They seem to be owned by Lambert Kay? I will try to call them again today.
Update: Two more of my kids have passed away, this has sickened me. I have four that I am still trying to keep alive. I have the empty gallon jug of Dyne to remind me and to show others as a Warning. This has upset me and my son as to why they would add PG to a supplement used for weight gain. I will contact the company this week then report back here their responce.
If your working the dogs or they play enough to use all that protein then I would say OK. If your kids don’t use that protein then over time it may damage some organs, so be careful.
Under normal circumstances, the body’s immune system keeps this bacteria under control and at a level which doesn’t result in “accidents” in the house and difficult to pick up yards.
Mild cases of Clostridium difficile result in the unformed, watery stool that we see almost every spring and just can’t seem to stop with a single dose of antibiotics. A more severe case of this bacterial overgrowth causes diarrhea that contains blood and mucous, abdominal cramps and can also cause an abnormal heart rhythm.
All too frequently, this is when the discussion starts about problems with what we are feeding or problems with the dog feed. Often, people change the brand of feed that they are using thinking that the changing feeds will solve the problem. Unfortunately, this change of feeds won’t solve the diarrhea problem and may even make the problem worse. Changing feeds can disrupt the normal intestinal flora and allow the Clostridium an opportunity to flourish.
The overuse of antibiotics may well be one secondary cause of the proliferation of Clostridium D. in that the use of antibiotics may alter the normal intestinal flora and increase the risk of developing Clostridium diarrhea. Actually, limiting the use of antibiotics can lower the risk of developing Clostridium D. diarrhea.
Clostridium D., as the cause of diarrhea, is confirmed by the presence of a toxin in a stool sample. A positive culture for Clostridium D. without a toxin assay is not enough to make the diagnosis of Clostridium D. associated disease as the sole cause for the diarrhea since the bacteria is a normal resident of the intestinal tract.
Keep us posted. Seems there was an issue with the Fromm Classic according to posters here. I did talk to my dist. I have a few sick dogs and had some pass away last week, I believe it was the supplement I was testing.
Colorado, A prayer was said for your husband.
I am very sorry for those who are dealing with the loss of their dogs.
I will be contacting my dist. of Fromm dog food for further assistance or maybe the volume of Fromm the yard goes through mite get me a call from mfg.
This site is for helping others, no matter how long I’ve had dogs, “I can still learn” and try to. I am not hard headed on everything I say or do. Many things are new to me and sometimes I find myself not reading everything when trying to correct a problem too fast. I have been off here taking care of sickly dogs, yes I think it was the Dyne. Trying to correct it still. I don’t reccomend nor endorsed this product at this time do to the PG.
I will consider other vendor offers if available.
What about the raw chicken quarters in 10 lb. bag for 7.00 or so? With Wal-Fart the problem would be where their ingredients come from in dog food and any Great Value for that matter.
That would be 1600 cal./cup which is about 4 times the calories of most 5 star dry foods.
Melissa, you said Abaft is 800 cal./cup, did you read my thread were I’m testing Dyne? Which is 75 cals./tbl. sp. The dogs really like it too. I actually need a couple more gallons to four in order to obtain proper test data doing entire yard. Dyne, are your ears ringing? I also went through 15 lbs. K-9 Super Fuel but was not enough, the yard would require 3 times that for me to give honest results.
I would go to the BARF diet.
Lamb, Turkey, Pheasant, Deer
Then add Coconut Oil “if” the dogs skin/coat gets dry.
You can use a quality mixer or processor for grinding meats & veggies to feed a single wind up toy dog a week at a time. I purchased a ¾ HP. Meat & Bone grinder that I can push entire chicken legs into and it grinds them w/o any issues. We use to grind 50 lbs. of chicken, then deer ext. in very short time. If you go this route, be careful of brands as their is a lot of junk out to buy, also some very poor quality Chinese copies that get into America.
Correction: My last post “invade” should have read “invite”, sometimes this word corrector on my pH a let needs to be learned.
Melissa, I don’t believe you can get 32/25 out of any Diamond/Mars Candy dog food unless you add it too the bag. My soon to be multi-adultry oriented ex-wife fed Diamond High Energy to the yard while I was connected to a machine at mom’s 8 miles away after being released from ICU. This action to “save” money (for her to steal later) almost killed the dogs. Their were 13 empty 50 lb. bags in the living room. I know better then to feed anything Diamond and so did she, but she had a plan.
Feed raw chicken quarters for a couple weeks, bet it will go away.
Also, the dogs now belong to my mom sense my injury and hence disability. I hope to get a FX Royale 500 .25cal., FX Verminator II Extreme .25cal. Posted the air rifle that I hope use invade anybody has these and can give advise.
MelLissa, So you reccomend “Diamond” dog food over the “Fromm” that the yard is getting fed?
PV, thanks for caring. I keep praying no matter what happens, still Love the Lord. My son and I talked about the town council paying for the removal of all pigeons in the main drag area which helps “cleanup” retail store fronts from all the “splats” everywhere. They mentioned in the town paper it would cost a few thousand dollars to have those selected birds removed. Well I could get paid to shoot them, and then my son and I can eat the birds, talk about a bonus!… I need to find out if sod poodles are good to eat and how to fix them, any ideas?
Patty, mine have played tug-a-war with commercially available doggie doors, jerking their bodies dragging house around. So no doors left on any houses. I do have an idea for doors, but no money sense my wife abandoned me & our 3 yr. son about 4 yes ago after I was hurt at work, had 2 surgeries then went code in recovery, was resessitated and now disabled. She totook 99% of money out of bank leaving us 51.28, went to Missouri living with ex-con for murder black man, has 2 kids by him and is now divorcing me & trying to get custody of my son. So I am trying to do the best I can for my son (homeschooling) and the dogs. My truck don’t run, needs work but I have the diesel injecting parts but can’t afford the labor. Need to sell my tools to buy expensive air rifle to hunt pigeons, doves, squrrils, rabbits, pheseants ect. So that we have meat, being on disability sucks. I take care of the dogs for my mom, she owns them now. I still owe our at tourney a lot too. The air rifle is very quiet, I should be able to hunt all year w/o people hearing me. This will make a big difference in our groceries.
Try ground raw lamb & chicken quarters. The bones from chickie raw she will chew up easily, this will add calcium helping the development of those little skeletons.
Congrats on choco Lab puppy! BARF would be the best of best. If you choose to go the kibble route then at least a 4 star kibble, better yet 5 star. I add warm water to the kibble and let them soak up a bit. This will stop the dry kibble bloat (DKB) which not only makes your dog look like it swallowed a turtle whole but is not comfortable for the dog and can harm them.
+1 ^above post. My yard enjoys them. I use to have a deer steaming in front of porch during our cold winter being carved. I would give my Kangal an entire leg to chew, by morning it would be gone. I can’t hunt now disabled, but maybe trade for your extra deer bones?
GizmoMom, YW. You can manually release his AG, this should be done outside. Though I have unloaded one of my Champion males on a rude competitor who had not sent me papers after being paid in full over 1year prior. The dog will use this for sent marking mostly when on walks when other doggies are smelt. When you feed freeze dried you need to add more water to his food. That is why his fecal is so dry, also too small in diameter for his AG to get used, understand?
If I may, also keep an eye on his fecal matter, weighing it will give you a better chart for what he’s digesting.
Adult Gold to most of the yard, today started two dogs on Game Bird Recipe which is grain free with duck, turkey, quail and pheasant with fruit & veggies (29/17). I have fed most of what Fromm makes in a kibble to the yard.
Interesting, I feed over 400 lbs. of Fromm every month to my doggies and no sickness as described. What is Date on bag of food you all had the problem with? Also the Lot # printed on tag will help. Wonder how long the stores had the bags of food you all bought and if they mopped the floor after hours getting the bottom of bags wet?
Patty, apology accepted. Most do just fine with extra food & Wheat Germ Oil (cold pressed) for added nutrient and 90%+ fat. Except those that will not stop playing until the day they die, just how the blood lines of this breed are. As stated, do to size of dog to food ratio a high cal/cup supplement is required to maintain the animals healthy weight in some conditions. I just started testing the Dyne high calorie supplement (1200 cal/cup)as stated in first post.
I don’t have 30 dogs, didn’t post that I did Patty.
Betsy, breeder and many dog shows all over. Yes, the dog houses are custom made and good “R” value all four sides including roof & floor. They enjoy straw beds, some you can see the straw being kicked out as the dog talks and plays with food bowl or giant nylabone. I have over 130 ribbons my dogs won. I have plans in my head for a optional heated floor along with a few more ideas when production is decided on.
What breed is he? Is he brood stock? Is his bloodline prone to skin disorders? I would’not feed Diamond, this might be the culprit. Try a grain free or at least 4 Star rated food for him. If you are close to me then I could give you some food to try him on.
Codex, in order to dial it in per say, what breed, age, ect is your dog? You are feeding grain free Fromm S&T, let us know the information on doggie to better assist you.
I would use 250mg 1xD for a week to clear out the ivermectin from that little Yorkie. Is their a heartworm issue in your area? I ask this because most Vets will try to get all dogs on preventative in the Attic. I have not ever given my yard heart guard which the Vets out here say is needed yet they don’t have statistics of k9’s with heart worm.
Try contacting the Five Star listed on this site.
Shepard mom, I would not look at them grains. Never seen a healthy k9 chowing down in the middle of a farmers field, ignoring the rabbits and other 4 leg’ed meat running about. Choose assorted meats to vary the dogs proteins, vitamins and such as they would naturally do in the wild.
I too agree, stay far away from Hills and Eek, Aims and the like. I rotate variety within the main feed of my yard of 15+. They have been on Fromm a long time. I still feed raw a day or more a week as a good change and add fish oil and milk thistle to it.
Jesse82, the food change is your best choice. When a dog is healthy inside the skin & coat follows which mites don’t like. Sense your dog is of a mixed breed called Bully Breed (not American Pit Bull Terrier) they have skin, joint, tumor and other issues more then pure bred APBT.
So start with the food, try feeding a BARF diet staying away from the grains and post your results as what raw meats and how much you feed your dog. The specs on your dog will help determine how much to feed, energy level etc.