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  • in reply to: High protein dangers–BEWARE! #63276 Report Abuse
    peter d
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    InkedMarie,
    I don’t remember saying that high protein foods are the ONLY cause-please read properly.
    It is a major factor in that it causes depletion of Calcium from the food inake and from the developing bones.It is secreted in the urine-goodbye forever.Happens during the developing stage-and you werent a fly on the wall when your 2 dogs you mentioned were growing up.
    But there are a number of other factors,and the main one is that pups are not fed a balanced diet with a CA/P ratio of 1.4 to 1. Yes they may get that in their KIBBLE—BUT,what else are they fed?? This ‘what else’ is what is important and I suggest to you that nearly every cute young puppy is given plenty of ‘other’ food that most likely affects the CA/P ratio.People are the real problem.No self control or disciplin-all well meaning mind you ,but the saying-kill them with kindness -is very apt.
    Interestingly the CHD problem reared it’s head around the 1930’s when commercial foods were starting to be produced-and it has progressively got worse.
    It’s not the fault of the commercial balanced complete diets,but the insatiable drive of owners to spoil their much loved pet.
    You are what you eat-whether human/dog or any living thing-or don’t you believe that either?

    in reply to: High protein dangers–BEWARE! #63110 Report Abuse
    peter d
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    InkedMarie,
    Biscuits/kibble-who cares? It’s all the same-a recipe of macro and micro nutriens extruded into pellet form.
    You might want to check out the latest findings on the cause of osteo arthritis et all,and the epidemic level it is reaching,reported as caused by the American diet to be too high in protein.

    in reply to: High protein dangers–BEWARE! #63108 Report Abuse
    peter d
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    Unfortunately the internet is a pretty useless place to learn anything when you have people who google day and night. All theory with 80% actual BS,and invariably by those with vested interests.You can give 100 links for some view and I can tit for tat with 100 of mine.
    I have always had to learn from actual science and use my brains,and practice it in the field BIGTIME.
    What has starch or teeth cleaning got to do with CHD-and I’ve never had to get a dogs teeth cleaned.
    Re causes of CHD-there are many points of circumstantial evidence pointing to nutrition as the main cause. Simply the CA/P ratio in a stricly balanced TOTAL dietary intake,with regard that CA is fully metabolised,and not lost due to VIT D deficiecy(sun exposure) and Vit C(dogs under strss do not produce enough), AND high protein acid leeching.
    Nutrition is a very complex area and I don’t intend to attempt explaining it all,but the fundimentals are very simple as are most things.
    I just comment here for the sake of over 2 million plus dogs who are diagnosed every year world wide(and their owners),with my 50 years of intimate experience.
    You can take it or leave it,and carry on believing the scientific mumbo jumbo that has been peddled out for 80 plus years now.
    ‘Experts’ are people who know more and more about less and less.

    in reply to: High protein dangers–BEWARE! #63017 Report Abuse
    peter d
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    My opinion and practice has always been as follows-
    Puppy biscuits (29-30%protein) to 10-12 weeks of age -then continue with a working dog biscuit of around 25%up to 6 months or so. From then on a protein level of 20-21% is ample.
    Always dry biscuits(good for their teeth-never wet food)-and add lib because no one knows how much to feed except nature and the dog.

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