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Not sure if this is the best spot for this ?? My 5 yr old Great Pyrenees just started on wellness canned as back up to home cooking . She seems to like , CORE , Grain FREE , Turkey, chicken liver, turkey liver formula . AND Core , grain free Turkey , pork liver & Duck Formula . They both look like baby food & smell good , I used the few dented cans first , I can’t tell that they are bad in any way from the dents . She only ate 1/2 can of 12.5 OZ , Grain FREE ,Turkey & Duck Stew with sweet potatoes & Cranberries . I mixed the second 1/2 with good food scraps , I had to ask her to eat the last few bits of the wellness at the bottom . It looks KIND of like some of my home food , you can SEE the different bits . Her norm is to clean the plate on any food she likes . She seems to like MY sweet potatoes , they may have real butter on them at times or mixed with other good food as well as cranberries . Many times she will eat , peas , carrots , & salad if it has dressing & or cooked with other meat enough . Still no barfing . She is smart dog , I will give her the 11 cans I have left & likely not buy more of that . I WILL get more of the (2) Grain Free Core . I also have one other I have not fed yet . Of 4 cases from chewy.com, I got about 6 dented cans .
In your new home , do they spray the yard , are other pets near by . My sister in Calf said in close packed homes , if the guy next door was not on it , it was easy to get them back .
@ Sue’s Zoo … LOVE THAT PUP !! @ Dog Foodie…… I found this spot to try & learn what you were warning me about , because I don’t know . I live on a lake with sharp chert & limestone gravel as a shore line , my pup would run to the shore & gobble it up like it was candy . He knew I didn’t want him to have it so he would just slam it ! I was at the end of my rope , I couldn’t leave him alone outside . None of my other dogs ever did this & my vet said this must stop or else. Some would pass, but I had a real problem , as the vet said I TOPPED with cottage cheese & it worked well & fast to get him off the rocks . I think it was beniful puppy , at the time , I thought that was good food at the time . My 5 yr old has now had her 2nt can of wellness , I got 4 different grain free as a back up to my home cooking , she likes it & no barfing . Thanks to the person that put this thread back up front .
I have yet to fully understand this site & admit to not reading the rules on posts , I thought this thread would fly & still make my point . I am a softy for Great Pyrenees & mutts & most any dog & critter , BUT,, I am a guy ! HA! & I don’t like trolls in any hat !!!
RE; How this could happen , I didn’t think Brenda gave enough info to really make that call , like time between , what was the new food , what kind of dogs , do they run free . I would guess Brenda & her Vet know more about the details , in her own time she may want to add some of that . My first reaction is to go on the war path , But I have a VERY Strong Motive To NOT try to Blame without just cause . Strong feelings are not proof . Could be anti freeze or some other toxin , vermin constantly come out of the woods , but I never put poison out in fear the dogs may find it or eat the dead vermin & get sick . Are the people next door friendly to your dogs or have they left any toxin out not thinking a dog could get into it , like anti freeze . Life is not fair , and never will be . When my 5 yr old first started barfing , years ago , it started on Diamond , Lamb & rice , that would have made 3 commercial foods she would barf on , one time a week ??? I called Diamond & the seller ….. they just blew me off . After home cooking , NO BARFING !
I must say DodFoodie , I got the same disconnect as you did RE: ” maybe the second one got sick when the first one did ” I guess it could be POSSIBLE …. I DON’T KNOW , I would bet hundreds that they didn’t . Highly unlikely is my thought . But the gut punch kind of took my mind off that . I have felt the pain she has & still do , likely not as bad at this time . This may sound off the wall but , I had a dream about 3 months after we lost Frosty , he came to me & told me I had enough pain & it was time to move on . It did help a little , 30% +/- ?? I have had to think back 30 years when I lost my first dog , I remember deep pain , that is long gone now & I can think of him & all of them I have lost , with no pain at all . Now I am looking forward to the time I can think of Frosty the same way . I am not there yet ! I have been looking for a new pup , that may help . No hurry , I will find him when I find him . I think my other dog also wants a new friend . I do have lots of photos & some video of most of them , That helps a little .
RE: Someone needs to do something !! Brenda , you just did , but don’t stop here , tell this to any person you know that has pets & is not made of stone . We have all trusted Other people to to do the right thing & as we are learning , some don’t care if they put you & your pet at risk if it puts $1.00 in their pocket !! Turn your pain against them . The best way to pay them back is don’t give them 1 more penny . So Sorry !!!
Smart Dog !!
I would have thought they would have just cut it off or freeze it ??
I hope all is well . I did find a different FREE 24 hour vet hot line 1-888-426-4435 , All of us should have the numbers in a place they can be had quickly . Also look for numbers of vets close to home that will take a call or return a call quickly 24 hours a Day !!
anesthetic…..,, so they can cut him open to work on him
I got that phone # off google is it a good phone #
no food …….. also water 12 hours if they will put him under
call 785 532 5679 24 hr free hot line vet college
Many times no barf at all
So sorry !! Some vets have a 24 hr line , they may call back . I don’t know much about the drug , in the past mine have barfed , but shortly after .. hours not days .
FLEA TRAP ,, I have a part fix for fleas that works very well . In a safe area put a sheet pan of water with about 1 or 2 drops of any soap in it , hang a bare light bulb over it , 6″ to a foot over the water . Some people put it in front of a low TV set over night . At night when all the lights are out , they jump for the light & end up in the soapy water & sink to the bottom . THIS MUST BE DONE IN A SAFE MANNER!! If you want to see if they are in an area TO TREAT and or to see if the treatment worked this is a good test . My vet has also told me you must spray the yard also , depending on the area I think he is right . Fleas are attracted to heat & light . Keep in mind if the bulb gets in contact with carpet or wood or paper , it can start a fire , ( keep it out of the water also!! ) so keep all pets & kids away from it . I would only use this at night when all the lights are out . Depending on how many fleas there are , it is possible to catch a lot of fleas .
I’m with you on as little meds as possible , as far as I know my dogs got shots for parvo . I don’t know if that is the right spelling . I have not seen you all mention that yet as far as I know . Any thoughts on that ? I have not told this part of the problem I had with Frosty . Last Nov. he had a seizure , then one in Mar. , then a 3 day storm in June that did him in . I don’t know 100% what did that , I think one of the Flea & tick meds that you put on their back is my guess . He was on the low side of the weight scale & a week or so later his hair came out in clumps around his collar , I have never seen that in any of my dogs . I think possible harsh meds , bad food and or some other toxin could be a trigger once they start down that road . I never gave him any meds after the hair came out . I think the time frame from the tick meds to the first seizure was about 2 months . At the time I didn’t know I had a problem so I didn’t TIME IT ! That was a first for me … no fun at all . At this time I want to stay as far away from ANY of that as possible & only what is really needed . My 5 yr old is now 2 months past her yearly check up , I can just see the look on my vets face when I tell them , I don’t want any of their [email protected] That will go over real well !!
Walt I just put my chewy.com order in for 4 cases of 4 different wellness canned ……… many thanks to all here . If Rocky won’t eat any of it, I plan to give it to the local shelter . Not sure what your plan is , please give any that may go out of date to your local shelter before it gets too old . Good Luck !
I am so glad you got an apt. with the vet , had you said this in your other post , I’m sure we all would have said “time to bring him in” . The vet may find other problems , and or you will KNOW your pup is good to go !
Like many here I am not always happy with my Vet. I have also had times when I felt like I wanted to save $$. There are times when the cost of saving $1 = $30 . My thought is , if I want my vet to be there when I really need him / her , if I can , I should spend a few extra $ with Them & not WALMART! If they check out the stool , I trust them to give me the right meds , Just a thought .
One other thing to keep in mind , always wash your hands after you handle your dog & clean up as much poop as possible , burn it or put it in the trash. Wash before you eat ! If you see them drag their butt on the ground , likely the same problem . At low infestation they are no big deal , I have heard they can plug up a dog if left alone . I got one 80 lb dog from a guy that had 8 or so adults & a batch of new pups , he was about 7 months old . Not long after I had him he barfed up a base ball size ball of worms , I had never seen anything like that before or since . He lived to over 13 yrs ! ALL IS WELL !
As I said , my dog story is 30 yrs long . To be Clear , in June Frosty died at 2 1/2 from possible toxin . At that time I quit ALL COMMERCIAL DOG FOOD For my other dog Rocky . Last fed was , Purina one lamb & rice . As you all know , any food less than 4 star is crap . I am happy with home cooking , I found this site looking for some canned to back it up now and then. I DON’T know that the food had any connection to his death.
I started this in case other folks had the same problem . I saw in a post the use of cottage cheese in home made food & made me think of this . RE: calcium , I got the cook book ” REAL FOOD for healthy dogs & cats ” in the book they cover many , many things . I know too much of anything can be bad , like a belly full of rocks & a huge vet bill to cut him open to take them out ! I don’t recall word for word , but they talked about the need for Phosphorus with calcium . There are also charts of how much per weight of dog . Like many here I also mix up what I feed my dog , my guess I don’t feed enough calcium , I don’t give it every meal & also give her cottage cheese , milk , sour cream , cheese , ice cream , yogurt . She gets deer bones from the woods on her own & killed & eaten rabbits . RE: raw bones , most people likely can’t get them , but if you know any deer hunters , the full rib cage is good for them to chew on . The ribs are good because the dogs eat them like buggs bunny eats a carrot . They use their back teeth to nip off bits of about 1/4 inch at a time , so there are no shards that would cut their insides , just crushed bone . Their teeth come out super clean . I’m not a raw food kind of guy & am a little freaked out about what they may catch from the deer. But hunting season in MO. is mostly cold so I don’t think it will spoil too soon . Other than the ribs , I take away any bones they bring home . I have raised Grt. Pureness dogs for about 30 years & only had problems with 1 a few months ago , that’s why I’m here. They eat a lot & I have fed them LOTS of table scraps , deer & catfish for ever & had zero problems related to food . I don’t know what killed Frosty ?? The Med. College cut him up to find out because they couldn’t save him & they wanted to know why . Bottom line , they don’t know for sure , age 2 1/2 , possible toxin . The av. age of my dogs was 12 years , the ones not hit by a truck , shot , antifreeze, or just gone & never came back ??? Bo Bear was shot in one eye by a turkey hunter & later BLIND sided by a truck ! He was not fixed & 1 rainy night just took off running & that was the last time I saw him alive . I think it’s a good Idea to get them fixed if you don’t want pups . Every single one was the BEST DOG EVER!!
I think the meals listed are great , ……. I would drop the rice 100% , & Gloria’s dish should be able to cook from raw in 1 hour with a lid on it at 350. Also things like peas with a very short cooking time could be add near the end & the cottage cheese could be a topper ( cold ). I think we have many good cooks here! PS I think I need to start a new thread on cottage cheese !!
Liver & Gizzards , need different cooking times . I gave my 80 lb dog a giz & liver whole , she ate them whole quick & just as quick barfed them up . So now I cut them up & she loves all of them . In the past she had a barfing problem , First , dimd. ( BARF ), then benifil ( barf ) , then purina one lamb & rice , ( barf ) . This was over a few years . Then I was educated & lost Frosty a very cool dog . Thanks to all the people on youtube as well as DR Karen Becker DVM ( cook book ) . I found this place looking for good food to back up my home COOKED food . Other than what I have said , the 5 yr old GR Pyrenees , quit barfing on home cooking .
My Grt. Pyrenees had them , I think it started from Nexguard ? ? ? He was at the bottom of the weight scale , not long after clumps of hair fell out from around his collar . I will never put any of that on my dogs ever again.