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November 29, 2018 at 6:01 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #127534 Report AbuseLisa AMember
anon101 – pending on which formula of Zignature your feeding you might want to reconsider. Because I can’t add an attachment there are dogs who have marginal and low Taurine levels that are eating Zignature venison, kangaroo, duck, turkey, lamb &rice, trout & salmon and Zessential. if you give me your personal email I can send you the file from the facebook site that is collecting this data.
November 29, 2018 at 11:17 am in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #127523 Report AbuseLisa AMemberThere is a group in Facebook called Taurine-Deficient Dilated Cardiomyopathy — they have a file where they are collecting blood test results and listing what type of dog food is used. Unfortunately there are dogs eating Zignature that have been diagnosed with DCM. We’ve been feeding our golden Zignature lamb for over a year and making the switch to Purina Pro Plan Salmon and we are moving forward with the whole blood test next week for piece of mind.
November 12, 2018 at 9:05 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126394 Report AbuseLisa AMemberWe are going to try this one – https://www.proplan.com/dogs/products/focus-adult-sensitive-skin-stomach-salmon-rice-formula#feeding
its actually almost the same calories to what we are currently feeding on the grain free diet.
November 11, 2018 at 6:26 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126326 Report AbuseLisa AMemberThanks Susan, I agree its good to rotate the proteins as I know dogs can become allergic after eating the same one. I didn’t know that information regarding meal in food but that makes it even hard to find something that has 1-4 ingredients as protein vs a carb and no chicken.
Right now I am most concerned with finding something that won’t put our pup at risk due to the increased awareness around DCM.
Wellness Complete Health Adult Whitefish & Sweet Potato dry – based on what I have read you want to stay away from peas and potatoes and when I recommended a different Wellness food to our vet last week she preferred Natural Balance over Wellness.
I am going to review the Purina Pro plan – sensitive skin and stomach salmon and rice formula with our vet to see if she agrees we should give that a go.
November 10, 2018 at 7:27 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126239 Report AbuseLisa AMemberHi Crazy4cats,
Thanks for the info. I will ask the vet about ProPlan Sensitive Stomach Salmon recipe, she typically likes a single source protein and this has fish meal too, not sure how she will feel about it. I do like that the first ingredient is Salmon and not some type of meal. She suggested we go to L.I.D. Limited Ingredient DietsĀ® Lamb Meal & Brown Rice Large Breed BitesĀ® Dry Dog Formula but others have told me lamb is a low taurine food and I also donāt like that the first ingredient is lamb meal. Iāve spent days reading ingredient list and because he is allergic to chicken and we need a single source protein Iām going crazy. Just want the very best for our pup he is 3 and hope he lives a long life.
November 9, 2018 at 6:20 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126144 Report AbuseLisa AMemberHi Susan,
Yes he was on a vet prescribed diet that is how we figured out he was allergic to chicken. We Once we eliminated the chicken his stool improved immediately but the prescription food was no longer sourced due to getting quality venison. That’s when we started LID/grain free over the counter and he didn’t do well on Venison/Sweet potato from Natural Balance thats when we moved to Zignature Lamb and he’s done really well.
Sorry I did mean Zignature Pork.. they don’t make beef. This is what’s inside the zignature pork – Pork, Pork Meal, Peas, Pea Flour, Chickpeas, Pork Fat, Natural Flavors, Flaxseed, Choline Chloride, Salt, Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin A Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Vitamin B12 Supplement), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate), Preserved with Mixed Tocopherols.
The Canidae Pure Wild has sweet potatoes, peas, chickpeas as the first set of ingredients where as the Zignature doesn’t have any potatoes but does have peas/chickpeas.
The only one so far our vet likes from the over the counter is the Natural Balance LID Lamb but I am concerned with the ingredients below, not the highest quality starting with lamb meal but it doesn’t have any legumes or peas or potatoes.
Lamb Meal, Brown Rice, Brewers Rice, Rice Bran, Canola Oil (Preserved With Mixed Tocopherols And Lactic Acid), Lamb, Dried Tomato Pomace, Brewers Dried Yeast, Natural Flavor, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin E Supplement, L-Ascorbyl-2-Polyphosphate (Source of Vitamin C), Inositol, Niacin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Beta-Carotene, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid, Biotin), Minerals (Ferrous Sulfate, Iron Proteinate, Zinc Proteinate, Zinc Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Choline Chloride, Citric Acid (used as a preservative), Rosemary Extract.
The Farmina Vet Life formulaās food when I look up what they recommend for GI one has chicken in it and the other has two types of protein. Our vet prefers single source protein.
I am totally confused and at a loss on what to do dispite the vet telling us to go with Natural Balance LID Lamb and Rice.
November 9, 2018 at 4:30 pm in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126140 Report AbuseLisa AMemberHi Susan,
Our vet doesn’t particularly like the Wellness line. And we did look at Farmina but it has other protein sources and not a single source protein which our vet prefers. We are currently on Zignature lamb but I was looking at their beef and it doesn’t look too bad… I’m going to ask our vet about that one.
November 9, 2018 at 11:46 am in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126119 Report AbuseLisa AMemberThanks Joanne. Most of those foods you gave me have other protein aside from lamb and due to our pups sensitive GI, our vet prefers single source protein. I do appreciate the suggestions if you have any others I’m happy to look those up.
November 9, 2018 at 11:06 am in reply to: Taurine-Deficient Cardiomyopathy Podcast #126114 Report AbuseLisa AMemberWe just learned about DCM a week ago from our vet during an appointment for an ear infection on our 3 yr old golden. I’ve been reading information every night and trying to figure out what to do. We are currently on a grain free lamb food by Zignature, that is due to our golden having allergies to Chicken. He was on prescription food for the first 1+ of his life and after he was stable we were able to move to over the counter, mainly due to the prescription food he was on which was venison – they were having trouble sourcing quality ingredients so the food was discontinued. Now I don’t know what to do. Its nearly impossible to find a grain inclusive food that doesn’t contain a single source protein, prefer beef, vision, or lamb. We spoke with our vet last night and she suggested – https://www.naturalbalanceinc.com/dog-formulas/dry/limited-ingredient-diets/lamb-meal-and-brown-rice. I would love to hear others thoughts.
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